Fun fact: every NPC in the game has a voice line about Epsilon program. If you wear the Epsilon robes as Michael and greet people, they will reply by saying: "Kifflom!" instead of "Hi/Hello".Even the gang members will react differently.
@@TheNinjaCobyit looks like everyone respects the Epsilon program in LS...that doesn't mean they're under Epsilon's control but again why is everyone so respectful when it comes to Epsilon?
I am still wondering what's inside the Epsilon building near Michael's house. Everytime you stand near the main door, you can hear the Epsilon theme from outside.
ive always figured the extra missions like this could be all connected somehow with the chilliad meral and things like location time black cell phone needs to be used and even the black light map shoot for stars and stuff too
@@cheez__it___7015 As a nod to Lucifer story, who was a angel. Maybe he was part of some pre-Episilon thing, traveled back in time and betrayed them somehow or just did something that Kraff didn't approve
@@cheez__it___7015 maybe he was in Epsilon ran away using time travel, now he is against them knowing the whole thing just a scam. Make a lot of sense since Epsilon hates redhead.
that's a really interesting perspective you guys have a former member who found out what was happening used time travel to try to undo the things the next red dead or grand theft auto game might contain bigger involvement of these epsilonists and Francis
As a French, I'm intrigued by some details : - Raelism (mentioned at the beginning of the video) was created by a french man who became very rich, and is linked with believing in aliens - "Formage" reeeeally looks like the word "Fromage" (cheese in french) misspelled - "Sinclair" is a typical french family name. Did he came from Saint Denis, which is a French colony ? - French is one of Luxembourg's official languages Maybe thoses are coincidences and i'm a self centered baguette :D
Westerns we’re mostly set in the century following the Louisiana purchase from napoleon, so a lot of French influence was present before the west was settled by more Anglican settlers who overwrote most of the French culture. You may have a point tho, idk.
More probable: Cris and Francis created epsilon in the 20s but Francis had other plans for the religion than Cris so they became rivals so now Cris teaches to hate red heads as to prevent Francis (who is time traveling) from ruining Cris’s plans for Epsilon and its future if Francis decides to expose and show himself to people Francis is constantly time traveling possibly fixing and changing timelines and/or running away from other time travelers (which are most likely elite ranking Epsilonists) Side Note and Conclusion : Francis is the main protagonist of a huge epic video game franchise we haven’t seen yet or never will
this might be a long shot and i’m also not sober but maybe the reason red heads are looked down upon according to the epsilon website is because cris formage envies kraff who he probably knows was a redhead. because kraff can time travel, he might have existed while cris was alive and shown him his ideas, making him one of kraff’s first followers. later in cris’ life when the cult really got a following, i’m sure he made up that the system of the epsilon program was meant to be all be charity-based. francis (or kraff) only asked for arthur (or john) to find rock carvings and that gave him no wealth. after learning what kraff could do and learning whatever kraff wanted to happen (which my guess is he just generally wanted a religion surrounding kraff or whatever), cris realized how profitable all this information would be. maybe he learned some “supernatural” tips from kraff and knew that it could make him a lot of money to teach people to know about their past lives or whatever it is they can do. he put himself at the top of the pyramid with everyone below him (the epsilon program members) and the money from all those people would eventually go to him. honestly, smart move. now this is my theory regarding everything i just said: cris knows kraff can time travel and fears that if he came to this paradigm, he would ultimately be put at the top of the pyramid or destroy the system all together because it’s not what he wanted the program to be. so, cris formage formed the current program with the belief that red heads are not descendants who are able to adopt the religion of epsilonism. if kraff came into this paradigm, the members would stay away from him or attack him if he ever attempted to prove who he was. i believe kraff will always look the same or at least have red hair and a birthmark when he time travels due to francis (the baby) having these features (assuming the child is a reincarnation of the original francis which im 99% sure of). i also think this could be irony from rockstar about the belief among a lot of people that jesus was real, but as time went along, his followers twisted his words into their own thoughts and opinions through the bible or other religious books. i hope this makes sense i might just be trippin but at least right now this all would be pretty fitting to me. sorry this is long if you read all of it uh thanks and let me know what you think
Read the Bible, then come back and say his words were twisted. In a lot of versions of the Bible Jesus’ words are highlighted and he always says good shit.
I’ve always been fascinated with them since SA, and to see that they’ve still been implementing it means the story is nowhere near done. But it may as well be since none of us are gonna be around when GTA 6 comes out.
@@KC.45 agreed. R* is not the ssme company without Dan Houser and even Leslie Benzies. Sam is still there, but he's never been the creative force that his brother was. Take 2 and what is left of R* is running on fumes. Red Dead Redemption 2 is the last great game R* will produce.
I don't fully understand them hating red hair if Francis/maybe Kraff had it, I feel like that would make them value red hair more, just like they value birthmarks on the face. I feel like there's gotta be something else to it
Think like this: If you are making a lot of money talking about a god catholic god and you actually knew that god would come to earth and take all religions to him, therefore ending your income, would you be happy? Of course not, you would try to keep people away from him and more into you and your interests. So making red haired people hated by the brainwashed is basically keeping them under control even if Kraff himself shows up.
Ever since playing the Francis Sinclair mission in RDR2, I imagined Rockstar making a game that involves time travel / universe hopping as Francis. Going from the 3D and HD eras of GTA in a linear Sci Fi game about history.
@@ilcastilho it'd be the ultimate sendoff game like a love letter to the fans, traveling through cave man and Dinosaur levels, to Red Dead times to the 70s, 80s, 90s, modern day and then the final in the future. The game could have a chapter based system like RDR2, each chapter being about a specific time period.
I was saying that I would love for GTA to not only allow players to travel seamlessly across the country (or world) but to also be able to time travel as well. The fact that there is a cannon time traveler makes this a real possibility.
Not sure if this has ever been brought up but Kifflom is an anagram of "Off Milk", and the leaders surname "Formage" is very close to "Fromage". Krant and Kraff aren't far off "Kraft" either Something cheesey going on in the Epsilon Program
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Marnie becoming a brainwashed idiot always bummed me out. She really felt like one of the few people Niko truly helped in life and didn't bring down with his troubled lifestyle. I was still glad to see her though in a way. I like when continuity is subtly expanded like that. I just wish she ended up better.
Wooow i just got a theory, you see that Rockstar prepares players for their next games with small teasers in their last one, what if the 1920s clothing the guy from RDR2 is wears indicates the next time or one of the next time periods Rockstar is going to take us in one of their future games?
Idk man, with the mafia games and LA Noir I feel like those eras are pretty well played out. Kinda like COD and it's fascination with shitty WW2 games. I feel like rockstar is done and over the hill, gotta move out of the way so another developer can "become the next best thing".
This is a great theory because it may actually be a reference to real life Scientologists (the 'religion' that Epsilonism is based on) and L. Ron Hubbard, the creator of Scientology who was eventually disavowed and disowned by his former disciples after an internal power struggle in the 70s and 80s led to David Miscavige taking over as de factor leader (BTW, David Miscavige bears more than a passing resemblance to Cris Formage - their surnames even sound similar). Francis Sinclair and his time-travel shenanigans might be an allusion to L. Ron Hubbard's career as a science fiction writer before he emerged as a cult leader.
People keep repeating that talking point but the sounds "David Miscavige" and "Cris Formage" dont sound anything alike. They rhyme as much as "fridge" and "garage"... the G doesn't even make the same sound. Just look up news about Scientology... nobody ever says that guys name in a way that rhymes with Formage.
That is absolutely fantastic summarisation of every snippet of information that is to be found throughout several huge games. What an incredible amount of work went into this video! Amazing!
Dude, you must be a detective, I mean, your skills at finding secrets in Rockstar games is like on a different level. I'm definitely flattered by this ability of yours of cross-referring and uncovering mysteries. Hats off, buddy
I love the way the intro led off to the Strange Man's cabin...Very smooth. I kinda figured that it would have been inspired by Scientology. After all, in an interview while in prison, Charles Manson said that he *quit* it because it was too crazy for him. Let that sink in...Scientology was too crazy for Charles Manson.
I just wanna say I’ve been watching ur vids for years now and ur style of editing was great back then but you somehow made it better then it was, that earned a much deserved subscription
I theorists at some point, Francis meet Chris and he got a glance of the ability of the man, but considering that Francis probably seen what Chris done in the future there must be some sort of disagreement (probably because of the money scam) and that's why Chris made red hair a complete sin, because at some point Francis is gonna come back, and Christ is fully aware of it
I definitely dont think Francis is Kraff, in my opinion, Epsilon was founded with good intentions in the 1920's, it was hijacked by Cris Formage, who is possibly also a time traveller, Francis tried to stop him, failed, and has been on the run through time ever since. That's why they hate those with red hair.
What if Cris somehow found out about Kraff and is taking advantage of all the knowledge for money and him telling people that people with red hair are the enemies so if and when kraff shows himself then people would hate him and side with Chris
Interesting. What if Chelonia is part of this mystery too? What if paradigms 1 is the late 1700s, when Chelonianism was founded? Both Chelonia and Epsilon have the light blue clothes, the cult vibe and the theme of giving up your worldly possessions to achieve something greater? What if Chelonia dies out and Fromage finds records of it, and then revives it under a new name and turns it into a moneymaking scheme? Clearly SInclair fits into this somehow, but I'm not sure how. Perhaps he traveled further back and inspired the first Chelonians? But then why would the 4th paradigm be significant? Also, mention of the 4th paradigm energy war reminds me of Direct Current Damnation, the magic lantern show that's constantly playing everywhere in RDR2
I just noticed that the three dirties of Epsilom all start the the letter K, and thus form the KKK deities. I don’t know if that’s of relevance. (Could be a coincidence but you never know with R*)
Perhaps Chris came across something we dont know, but since he founded epsilon he could've wrote whatever he wanted. He probably wrote to not beleive in red headed people because kraff is indeed Francis, but in order ti keep full and total control of the epsilon program was to shun Francis. So no matter what timeline Francis is in, he will be shunned and ignored by epsilon followers. Also, this is a stretch, but what if the house with the pentegram under it is the same location as the vantage point on top of mt.chiliad?
I thought Strange Man would figure it out, but since nothing points at it directly, I guess he decided not to speculate on the matter. The reason why Sinclair is the only real known time traveler and why Epsilonism demonizes red haired is that the founder of Epsilonism probably met Sinclair at some point. He learnt a lot from him. His knowlede about the future were enough to create a successful cult. He couldn't time travel, but instead he put his knowlege to his own favor, egoisticly lifehacking our reality. He afraids of Sinclairs response though, so he instructs his followers to beware of red haired people.
the engravings in the rock of rdr2. It's obvious that Sinclair wanted us to collect a series of messages for him in Rdr2 before continuing his journey.
One of the interesting myths of the games. The reason why I always believed Micheal could join the Epsilon Cult was that his DNA was somehow involved with the cult, which was maybe one of his ancestors was part of it. Chris could have been a deity roaming around the planet for a long time as you can meet him when you died for the first time on GTA Online, flying as an angel/god talking to you about restarting your life once again. Epsilon is a Greek letter and what is cool is that in Red Dead Redemption II, lots of Greek mythical references are made and so was in GTAV. Lots of references in Red Dead Redemption II show you that the Epsilon Cult exists in some capacity, for example on the Epsilon internet site they say that trees can talk. That reference can be found in a forest where you hear spirits talking to you, indicating that Rock* is pushing this part of the Epsilon lore forward and that they are trying more and more to connect everything together. Of course is the modern Epsilon Cult from GTAV just scamming people, but the more you play every Rock* game involving the Epsilon Cult, the more you notice that it goes much deeper in the lore and that makes this so extremely interesting. Francis Sinclaire is definetly involved and could have been the one trying to save someone in the past, but because of his traveling, he created a time loop that accidentally created the religion. The map that he created on the wall, was a large clue about a lot of things happening in the game, and I honestly think we still haven't connected all the dots of that map. We found everything there is to find in RDR2, but we haven't connected them. Is he traveling through 4 types of timelines? Egyptian times/medieval ages/Wild West/present? Because there are 4 corners of that map+ show a certain culture like a man with a shield and spear, a futuristic city/city of today, the sphinx and so on. Only time will tell what it could have ment.
I think there is more to tell about this mysterious Cult .i don't think its just about Scam there is lots of signs appearance in gta series that made it like a puzzle with lot of missing parts .
Sinclair could be Kraff himself or from the bloodline of Kraff. I have a feeling that Kraff at the very least, is an alien and those with the birth mark and red hair, are descendents of Kraff. Something is going on at the highest levels of Epsilon and they are waging a war against Kraffs descendents.
The fact that more fictional ginger characters are no longer being portrayed that way in live-action movies and tv shows, gives me the eerie feeling that Epsilon is a real thing. 👀
At 6:05 when Arthur pulls the wanted poster of the princess down...its hanging over the word "whiskey", painted on the wall. But, specifically, her poster blocks out the word "HIS". Who does she belong too? This is the question that keeps me up at night....
You lost me on Francis. If he is Kraft then why would the red-hair be bad? Being that craft himself has red hair which would mean anybody with red hair would be a direct descendant of his so it would be a positive thing. I'm a little confused there
Imagine if in a future GTA Online DLC we have to work for the epsilon program , Cris Fromage requires the player to go back in 1899 using a time machine to save Kraft . We can team up with the Van Der Linde gang .
holy shit this would be kind of epic but at the same time i think the want us to find the small hints in their games and piece them together ourselves (like, they don’t flat out mention francis being in the epsilon program, they want us to figure it out ourselves) so to piece things together on their end probably wouldn’t happen but then again this would really be so cool
@@nickjones3075 And somehow still legal and recognized as a religion in the United States of Dumbfuckistan despite all the criminal shit they do. God bless the First Amendment
I appreciate all the Epsilon cultist lines are delivered as if they were in a documentary interview.
Yeah,that's incredible,Strange Man is the best RUclips channel of Rockstar Games content without a doubt.
@@shadowagent6051 🧢
You know there is over 1000 of them saying kiflom
@@weareallone8442 name some others then
No@@Bleezy8_24
Fun fact: every NPC in the game has a voice line about Epsilon program. If you wear the Epsilon robes as Michael and greet people, they will reply by saying: "Kifflom!" instead of "Hi/Hello".Even the gang members will react differently.
I dont need sleep, I need LINKS!!
Are you suggesting every citizen in LS is somehow under their control?
@@TheNinjaCobyit looks like everyone respects the Epsilon program in LS...that doesn't mean they're under Epsilon's control but again why is everyone so respectful when it comes to Epsilon?
Kifflom!
@@serbonkers4130 Krant and Kifflom Uncle,Brother
This is probably one of the biggest mystery’s in rockstar games
Maybe even gaming in general its still continued since gta sa
probably?
Same with mt chiliad
you gotta realize this mystery goes beyond the games
Kifflom?
I am still wondering what's inside the Epsilon building near Michael's house. Everytime you stand near the main door, you can hear the Epsilon theme from outside.
It’s probably a hollow building just like 95% of every other building in Los santos
Isn't there a post story-mission involving going there for a party or meeting or something?
@@Bobdylan12121 no
@@Bobdylan12121 yes u only collect a car from therr tho
ive always figured the extra missions like this could be all connected somehow with the chilliad meral and things like location time black cell phone needs to be used and even the black light map shoot for stars and stuff too
Could Francis be the Anti-Kraff? His birthmark looks upside down compared to the one on the graphic. That'd explain the ginger hate.
Possibly but then why would he be wearing the Epsilon colors?
@@cheez__it___7015 As a nod to Lucifer story, who was a angel. Maybe he was part of some pre-Episilon thing, traveled back in time and betrayed them somehow or just did something that Kraff didn't approve
@@cheez__it___7015 maybe he was in Epsilon ran away using time travel, now he is against them knowing the whole thing just a scam. Make a lot of sense since Epsilon hates redhead.
maybe the images he want we collect have something do with the story of epsilom(sorry for my english)
that's a really interesting perspective you guys have
a former member who found out what was happening used time travel to try to undo the things
the next red dead or grand theft auto game might contain bigger involvement of these epsilonists and Francis
As a French, I'm intrigued by some details :
- Raelism (mentioned at the beginning of the video) was created by a french man who became very rich, and is linked with believing in aliens
- "Formage" reeeeally looks like the word "Fromage" (cheese in french) misspelled
- "Sinclair" is a typical french family name. Did he came from Saint Denis, which is a French colony ?
- French is one of Luxembourg's official languages
Maybe thoses are coincidences and i'm a self centered baguette :D
Westerns we’re mostly set in the century following the Louisiana purchase from napoleon, so a lot of French influence was present before the west was settled by more Anglican settlers who overwrote most of the French culture. You may have a point tho, idk.
omelette du fromage
oui le nom "formage" m'a fait penser a fromage aussi lol
mais ton raisonnement est super cool aussi
t pas un employé de strangeman?
Why are u trying to make this all about France it literally has nothing to do with that lol
Ah oui! tu t'appelle como ?
4:57 Cris has the creepiest pair of hands that's for sure
Fun fact: There are over 500 voice lines of people saying kifflom in gta 5.
For Real?
Quadingly
DarkViperAU?
@@Meester_ yes
Kifflom brother brother.
The war against red heads could be Cris wanting to discredit Francis or there was some falling out.
More probable:
Cris and Francis created epsilon in the 20s but Francis had other plans for the religion than Cris so they became rivals so now Cris teaches to hate red heads as to prevent Francis (who is time traveling) from ruining Cris’s plans for Epsilon and its future if Francis decides to expose and show himself to people
Francis is constantly time traveling possibly fixing and changing timelines and/or running away from other time travelers (which are most likely elite ranking Epsilonists)
Side Note and Conclusion :
Francis is the main protagonist of a huge epic video game franchise we haven’t seen yet or never will
Interesting, but Cris wouldn't be from the 1920s, in GTA 5 he looks middle age at most.
@@trashboat2687 Maybe Cris's father or grandfather?
Cris also looks like jimmy hopkins
@@trashboat2687 cris could also use time travel as would his agents chasing after Francis
@@user-hl6ls8sv4t tru, tru
Got my food and I see a Strange Man upload, man this is goin' to be a good night.
Russia
Is it Bear food?
Get me food too
Reading while eating is NOT the move, i thought this channel had commentary but it DOESN'T so 6/10 for me its mid
How was the food
You can see the effort put in this video, thank you strange man.
this might be a long shot and i’m also not sober but maybe the reason red heads are looked down upon according to the epsilon website is because cris formage envies kraff who he probably knows was a redhead. because kraff can time travel, he might have existed while cris was alive and shown him his ideas, making him one of kraff’s first followers. later in cris’ life when the cult really got a following, i’m sure he made up that the system of the epsilon program was meant to be all be charity-based. francis (or kraff) only asked for arthur (or john) to find rock carvings and that gave him no wealth. after learning what kraff could do and learning whatever kraff wanted to happen (which my guess is he just generally wanted a religion surrounding kraff or whatever), cris realized how profitable all this information would be. maybe he learned some “supernatural” tips from kraff and knew that it could make him a lot of money to teach people to know about their past lives or whatever it is they can do. he put himself at the top of the pyramid with everyone below him (the epsilon program members) and the money from all those people would eventually go to him. honestly, smart move. now this is my theory regarding everything i just said: cris knows kraff can time travel and fears that if he came to this paradigm, he would ultimately be put at the top of the pyramid or destroy the system all together because it’s not what he wanted the program to be. so, cris formage formed the current program with the belief that red heads are not descendants who are able to adopt the religion of epsilonism. if kraff came into this paradigm, the members would stay away from him or attack him if he ever attempted to prove who he was. i believe kraff will always look the same or at least have red hair and a birthmark when he time travels due to francis (the baby) having these features (assuming the child is a reincarnation of the original francis which im 99% sure of).
i also think this could be irony from rockstar about the belief among a lot of people that jesus was real, but as time went along, his followers twisted his words into their own thoughts and opinions through the bible or other religious books. i hope this makes sense i might just be trippin but at least right now this all would be pretty fitting to me. sorry this is long if you read all of it uh thanks and let me know what you think
Very true theory (your comments needs more likes)
@@orynx2835 thanks it took me a while to write lmao
I'm not sober either but this makes the most sense to me. Good job, Leah!
@@OneCash hey thanks man!
Read the Bible, then come back and say his words were twisted. In a lot of versions of the Bible Jesus’ words are highlighted and he always says good shit.
I’ve always been fascinated with them since SA, and to see that they’ve still been implementing it means the story is nowhere near done. But it may as well be since none of us are gonna be around when GTA 6 comes out.
Implementing what exactly? R* finished the 3D universe's stories with GTA IV.
@@KC.45 agreed. R* is not the ssme company without Dan Houser and even Leslie Benzies. Sam is still there, but he's never been the creative force that his brother was. Take 2 and what is left of R* is running on fumes. Red Dead Redemption 2 is the last great game R* will produce.
@@hanknorris5642 Hahahahaha,the same was said with gta v and iv, I'll be laughing when the GTA6 trailer drops
@@ppog743 don't hold your breath.
@@ppog743 keyword there is “when”
It's even more interesting and creepier when you realize they're all around us in real life too with different names of course.
“It took a while to make, but I had real fun doing it”
That’s the exact recipe for good quality videos.
I don't fully understand them hating red hair if Francis/maybe Kraff had it, I feel like that would make them value red hair more, just like they value birthmarks on the face. I feel like there's gotta be something else to it
Glad someone else thinks so. Reading that part sounded wrong just on principal
Maybe Epsilon sees it as a form of impersonation if Kraff does have red hair?
Messages become bastardised over time especially if cult leaders are involved
I asked myself the same question
Think like this: If you are making a lot of money talking about a god catholic god and you actually knew that god would come to earth and take all religions to him, therefore ending your income, would you be happy? Of course not, you would try to keep people away from him and more into you and your interests. So making red haired people hated by the brainwashed is basically keeping them under control even if Kraff himself shows up.
That intro was pure genius 1000/10 sir
Respect++
Ever since playing the Francis Sinclair mission in RDR2, I imagined Rockstar making a game that involves time travel / universe hopping as Francis. Going from the 3D and HD eras of GTA in a linear Sci Fi game about history.
That would be great. That's you see how Rockstar creates its characters. They have deep stories complex personalities.
@@ilcastilho it'd be the ultimate sendoff game like a love letter to the fans, traveling through cave man and Dinosaur levels, to Red Dead times to the 70s, 80s, 90s, modern day and then the final in the future.
The game could have a chapter based system like RDR2, each chapter being about a specific time period.
I was saying that I would love for GTA to not only allow players to travel seamlessly across the country (or world) but to also be able to time travel as well. The fact that there is a cannon time traveler makes this a real possibility.
@@StatiCRjm I’m open to a new title, but I’d rather have it on GTA online. Since that’s already separate from the single player GTA titles anyway.
imagine thats the new rockstar game time traveling to gta red dead la noire bully and midnight club
Michael’s “the fuck?!!” after Trevor talking up Patricia like she’s a trophy wife is one of my favorite lines in any game! 😂
Fun secret: in valentine there are Graves of sheriff Malloy family and Calloway's family (also brother)
Jim boy Calloway?
Yeah
fr? ive been to valentine graveyard a lotta times and never noticed that
@@emp5847 there are also other families but they don't appear in story
@@emp5847 np but I was bit late xD
*ROCKSTAR's* satire is second to none
Will be interesting how hardcore in satire they go with GTA 6, if there is one that is.
@@TheNinjaCoby hope they don’t lose their spine.
@@shnubdawg7730 For sure.
There's South park
@@shnubdawg7730
They most likely will/did
The strange man intro was so well introduced, love it!
Could the "trees talk but only some people hear them" line be foreshadowing the whispering trees in rdr2? 🤔
The trees in RDR2 don't whisper lol. The ghosts of children do.
After 8 years finally! Thanks man love your contant
Not sure if this has ever been brought up but Kifflom is an anagram of "Off Milk", and the leaders surname "Formage" is very close to "Fromage".
Krant and Kraff aren't far off "Kraft" either
Something cheesey going on in the Epsilon Program
you just blew my mind homie
Nice!
I love how all Rockstar games are connected in deep storylines going back 20 years
Epsilon ad: What is the epsilon program?
Micheal: Bullsh*t
It's always a great day when The Strange Man uploads a video!
Imagine this guy does a face reveal and it’s Sam Houser
But Sam doesn't do any of the writing
Does Cris with no H know you're sharing these great truths?
🤣🤣🤣
The question is where is cris with H.
Openly laughing in the face of Scientology is a bold move…even for a Triple-A game studio.
I love it
You are my favorite RUclipsr by far, ever video that you put is extremely interesting and it always makes my day better. You should have 1 mill subscribers easily but RUclips algorithms have not given you that opportunity yet. Keep doing what you are doing and you will be big
No not enough people that play red dead give a shit about this stuff. Facts
Marnie becoming a brainwashed idiot always bummed me out. She really felt like one of the few people Niko truly helped in life and didn't bring down with his troubled lifestyle. I was still glad to see her though in a way. I like when continuity is subtly expanded like that. I just wish she ended up better.
It’s an npc bro
@@DaBoyJ A character written with a personality for a specific reason shouldn't be commented on or analyzed? I agree, sound logic bro.
@@MrBump2 didn’t say that bro, just an npc
@@DaBoyJ Fair enough, my bad.
Well, addicts are easier to be manipulated.
Wooow i just got a theory, you see that Rockstar prepares players for their next games with small teasers in their last one, what if the 1920s clothing the guy from RDR2 is wears indicates the next time or one of the next time periods Rockstar is going to take us in one of their future games?
Idk man, with the mafia games and LA Noir I feel like those eras are pretty well played out. Kinda like COD and it's fascination with shitty WW2 games. I feel like rockstar is done and over the hill, gotta move out of the way so another developer can "become the next best thing".
Is epsilom in la noire?
Would be cool if we got some sort of epsilon DLC where we find out a lot about the inner workings of the epsilon program
This is a great theory because it may actually be a reference to real life Scientologists (the 'religion' that Epsilonism is based on) and L. Ron Hubbard, the creator of Scientology who was eventually disavowed and disowned by his former disciples after an internal power struggle in the 70s and 80s led to David Miscavige taking over as de factor leader (BTW, David Miscavige bears more than a passing resemblance to Cris Formage - their surnames even sound similar). Francis Sinclair and his time-travel shenanigans might be an allusion to L. Ron Hubbard's career as a science fiction writer before he emerged as a cult leader.
People keep repeating that talking point but the sounds "David Miscavige" and "Cris Formage" dont sound anything alike. They rhyme as much as "fridge" and "garage"... the G doesn't even make the same sound.
Just look up news about Scientology... nobody ever says that guys name in a way that rhymes with Formage.
That is absolutely fantastic summarisation of every snippet of information that is to be found throughout several huge games.
What an incredible amount of work went into this video!
Amazing!
Been here since the beginning. Congrats on everything you've accomplished so far TSM!
Dude, you must be a detective, I mean, your skills at finding secrets in Rockstar games is like on a different level. I'm definitely flattered by this ability of yours of cross-referring and uncovering mysteries. Hats off, buddy
This isn’t even a damn movie and you had me watching this whole thing give this guy a round of applause 👏
👏👏👏👍✌
I love the way the intro led off to the Strange Man's cabin...Very smooth.
I kinda figured that it would have been inspired by Scientology. After all, in an interview while in prison, Charles Manson said that he *quit* it because it was too crazy for him. Let that sink in...Scientology was too crazy for Charles Manson.
I just wanna say I’ve been watching ur vids for years now and ur style of editing was great back then but you somehow made it better then it was, that earned a much deserved subscription
Congratulations on 300k man!!! You deserve it!!! Can’t wait to see what you do in the future!!!
New revenue for R*
This video was well worth the wait. Kifflom brother-brother!
Kifflom
Sounds like Rockstar based their online gaming pricing structure on the Epsilon programme.
Just keeping paying and you'll get to a higher level.
300k only?.. you deserve 10 times that
I guess we gotta get him a million subscribers to find out the truth about IKZ.
He kinda did that
I theorists at some point, Francis meet Chris and he got a glance of the ability of the man, but considering that Francis probably seen what Chris done in the future there must be some sort of disagreement (probably because of the money scam) and that's why Chris made red hair a complete sin, because at some point Francis is gonna come back, and Christ is fully aware of it
I turned luminosity on my screen to max at the end of the video. I am flashbanged as hell, but the E is definitely not blue.
Invert colors
I've had the custom steam url since 2013 "kifflom brother brother" glad you did this one.
the intro was hilariously magnificent.
I wish Sam and Dan Houser should shed some light on this.
I definitely dont think Francis is Kraff, in my opinion, Epsilon was founded with good intentions in the 1920's, it was hijacked by Cris Formage, who is possibly also a time traveller, Francis tried to stop him, failed, and has been on the run through time ever since. That's why they hate those with red hair.
thats not possible, If cris formage was also a time traveler, he wont be chasing money like this right
thats not possible, If cris formage was also a time traveler, he wont be chasing money like this right
I just started playing red dead 2 for the first time in September. You are my go to for videos. Thank you for everything you do.
08:37 "Trees talk, but only some people can hear them"
Lmao
They're not very interesting
What if Cris somehow found out about Kraff and is taking advantage of all the knowledge for money and him telling people that people with red hair are the enemies so if and when kraff shows himself then people would hate him and side with Chris
Interesting. What if Chelonia is part of this mystery too? What if paradigms 1 is the late 1700s, when Chelonianism was founded? Both Chelonia and Epsilon have the light blue clothes, the cult vibe and the theme of giving up your worldly possessions to achieve something greater? What if Chelonia dies out and Fromage finds records of it, and then revives it under a new name and turns it into a moneymaking scheme? Clearly SInclair fits into this somehow, but I'm not sure how. Perhaps he traveled further back and inspired the first Chelonians? But then why would the 4th paradigm be significant?
Also, mention of the 4th paradigm energy war reminds me of Direct Current Damnation, the magic lantern show that's constantly playing everywhere in RDR2
Wow, never knew there were Missions for this in GTAV, now I want to go back lol. Great vids, and really enjoy this channels content.
You’re one of my most favourite RUclipsrs and I love your content! Keep up the good work!
I just noticed that the three dirties of Epsilom all start the the letter K, and thus form the KKK deities. I don’t know if that’s of relevance. (Could be a coincidence but you never know with R*)
Weird how I just completed epsilon as Michael and got the robes online this week
this guy always upload a video whenever i bring up my food and search for a video , what a strange man !!!
Don't think i was sleeping on that intro i caught that and it was epic.
Perhaps Chris came across something we dont know, but since he founded epsilon he could've wrote whatever he wanted. He probably wrote to not beleive in red headed people because kraff is indeed Francis, but in order ti keep full and total control of the epsilon program was to shun Francis. So no matter what timeline Francis is in, he will be shunned and ignored by epsilon followers.
Also, this is a stretch, but what if the house with the pentegram under it is the same location as the vantage point on top of mt.chiliad?
I thought Strange Man would figure it out, but since nothing points at it directly, I guess he decided not to speculate on the matter.
The reason why Sinclair is the only real known time traveler and why Epsilonism demonizes red haired is that the founder of Epsilonism probably met Sinclair at some point.
He learnt a lot from him. His knowlede about the future were enough to create a successful cult. He couldn't time travel, but instead he put his knowlege to his own favor, egoisticly lifehacking our reality. He afraids of Sinclairs response though, so he instructs his followers to beware of red haired people.
this channel is so underrated this should have 5m .subs
the engravings in the rock of rdr2. It's obvious that Sinclair wanted us to collect a series of messages for him in Rdr2 before continuing his journey.
19:31 I wish Dutch would've seen things the same way
One of the interesting myths of the games. The reason why I always believed Micheal could join the Epsilon Cult was that his DNA was somehow involved with the cult, which was maybe one of his ancestors was part of it. Chris could have been a deity roaming around the planet for a long time as you can meet him when you died for the first time on GTA Online, flying as an angel/god talking to you about restarting your life once again. Epsilon is a Greek letter and what is cool is that in Red Dead Redemption II, lots of Greek mythical references are made and so was in GTAV. Lots of references in Red Dead Redemption II show you that the Epsilon Cult exists in some capacity, for example on the Epsilon internet site they say that trees can talk. That reference can be found in a forest where you hear spirits talking to you, indicating that Rock* is pushing this part of the Epsilon lore forward and that they are trying more and more to connect everything together.
Of course is the modern Epsilon Cult from GTAV just scamming people, but the more you play every Rock* game involving the Epsilon Cult, the more you notice that it goes much deeper in the lore and that makes this so extremely interesting. Francis Sinclaire is definetly involved and could have been the one trying to save someone in the past, but because of his traveling, he created a time loop that accidentally created the religion. The map that he created on the wall, was a large clue about a lot of things happening in the game, and I honestly think we still haven't connected all the dots of that map. We found everything there is to find in RDR2, but we haven't connected them. Is he traveling through 4 types of timelines? Egyptian times/medieval ages/Wild West/present? Because there are 4 corners of that map+ show a certain culture like a man with a shield and spear, a futuristic city/city of today, the sphinx and so on. Only time will tell what it could have ment.
Congratulations! you deserve it. Great channel and outstanding videos. Keep making them, and I'll keep watching. 👍
This is awesome! Thanks so much for making it:)
I think there is more to tell about this mysterious Cult .i don't think its just about Scam there is lots of signs appearance in gta series that made it like a puzzle with lot of missing parts .
Hi!
I wanna ask you since the content is VERY thought out..
Are you a one man team?
I’ll grab some snack while watching this this channel was the greatest rockstar game mystery channel
Aliens are part divine so I wouldn't be surprised those 3 "deities" are cosmic brains
Francis (Kraff) kidnapped Princess Isabella and took her to GTA 6 and blamed it on the Van Horn fence cause he's a ginger.
This is now my headcanon.
Sinclair could be Kraff himself or from the bloodline of Kraff. I have a feeling that Kraff at the very least, is an alien and those with the birth mark and red hair, are descendents of Kraff. Something is going on at the highest levels of Epsilon and they are waging a war against Kraffs descendents.
This is an interesting point. Because Cris in GTAV says he fought monsters in another dimension. And scientologists believe in aliens n shit
You make THE BEST video’s man
congrats on 300k
strange man is criminally underrated
I got my popcorn and soda ready, time to binge watch all of his vids
I love Micheals reaction to the Strange Man intro
Uploaded on my birthday, thank you.
I wonder if they're going to add the Epsilon Program in the next GTA game.
Hope they do
The fact that more fictional ginger characters are no longer being portrayed that way in live-action movies and tv shows, gives me the eerie feeling that Epsilon is a real thing. 👀
CEASE YOUR INVESTIGATIONS
Where do you live? I just wanna talk ...
Yeah, it is. Look up Scientology
Been subscribing since the begining. Congrats pn 300k
At 6:05 when Arthur pulls the wanted poster of the princess down...its hanging over the word "whiskey", painted on the wall. But, specifically, her poster blocks out the word "HIS". Who does she belong too? This is the question that keeps me up at night....
If you combine "Kraff" and "Krant" you get "Kraft." The owner of Kraft is Robert Kraft. Robert Kraft is Kifflom - FACT! ;-)
You lost me on Francis. If he is Kraft then why would the red-hair be bad? Being that craft himself has red hair which would mean anybody with red hair would be a direct descendant of his so it would be a positive thing. I'm a little confused there
He said about the idea of it being heresy and having red hair as being not of this world to epsilonists
0:45 I always wonder what the effin' F is that explosion sound from the distance? I occasionally hear it!
yeah I wonder about that too
Congrats on crossing 300k :D
Imagine if in a future GTA Online DLC we have to work for the epsilon program , Cris Fromage requires the player to go back in 1899 using a time machine to save Kraft . We can team up with the Van Der Linde gang .
holy shit this would be kind of epic
but at the same time i think the want us to find the small hints in their games and piece them together ourselves (like, they don’t flat out mention francis being in the epsilon program, they want us to figure it out ourselves) so to piece things together on their end probably wouldn’t happen but then again this would really be so cool
Rockstar doesn't outright have us play through their mysteries, the secrets are for us to discover and speculate on.
@@leahharvey4657 Easter eggs are not hints, is like saying that GTA SA is connected to GTA HD.
@@KC.45 i just mean i think they hint at francis being in the epsilon program without flat out saying he is
Francis sinclair
Hamish sinclair
Coincedence?
There is no connection beetween them except the surname
@@juliangiuggioli7728 oh yeah
No shit
This channel is truly the gift that keeps on giving
Always had a great laugh whenever I listen in on the radio with the epsilon in GTA SA
What about the relevance of the turtle cult in RDR2?
They’re just crazy
He did mention them in a previous video and how the founders grave can be seen and a turtle statuette can be found there
Don’t think it has anything to do with the scientology dig though
People always seem to ignore HOW MUCH it actually is INSPIRED by FREE MASONS too!!!! Awesome video 🤝🏽🤝🏽💪🏽
I don’t see black and white checkered floors or secret handshakes
@@Jackspiring There’s an audio clip of a npc talking about how epsilon members do shady things that no one knows about
No, it's heavily, obviously based on Scientology. Scientology is absolutely batshit insane, and a heartless pyramid scheme on top of the insanity.
@@nickjones3075 And somehow still legal and recognized as a religion in the United States of Dumbfuckistan despite all the criminal shit they do. God bless the First Amendment
That intro editing was golden
Wow man. Just wow... if you dont work for Rockstar, i just dont seebanother possibility. Great content, man! Absolutely amazing.