Everything Rockstar Took From You - GTA 5's Altered Missions
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2023
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This is not an exhaustive list of everything found in the file, and I will probably end up covering more in future videos.
that's nice
You made a mistake at 7:30. It's not at all ambiguous that Trevor kills Floyd and Debra.
Idk if you already know about this fact and found it not interesting enough, but Lamar and Franklin voice actors Solo and Slink mentioned during Gamologys 1 million subs special where they react to GTA V scenes that instead of Stretch Franklin originally shot D during The Long Stretch mission. Not that important in the end but I think its a cool little info
Definitely check out the ps3 prototype build of gta 5. Unfortunately it’s lost, but a whole bunch of unused dialogue was saved before it vanished.
@@Top_Weeb Wasn’t it confirmed on the radio that Floyd was killed by being shot (probably by Debra who was originally holding the gun) while Debra was stabbed to death (probably by Trevor after picking up the knife Floyd was initially holding to avenge him)?
Lamar's actor once said that Lamar was meant to have solo missions and a bigger role in the story, but he was "tied up" at some point and Rockstar had to keep on working without him, but they let him continue his role after he was free
Yeah that's true the original ending C/deathwish ending was going to see Franklin commit suicide. And then we would have gotten to play as Lamar who would replace Franklin in character select. Then we would play as Lamar and have this little revenge story were Lamar was going to get his revenge on Devin. That is also why Lamar is the only character in director mode (when you don't count the three main characters) who can actually have dialogue with families members and ballas members and other people with some families members even saying things like "what's up lamar". Lamar was going to be a main character but Lamar's voice actor got arrested. This meant they could no longer do that story and mission so they started to work on the ending C that we got. And when Slink (lamar's va) got released he instead played the diffrent role he got in the ending C we all know.
@@Gamer-Wolf. it was never proven that Franklin would die in Deathwish. I believe that's just a baseless rumor
@@Gamer-Wolf.no I think Lamar was meant to replace Michael or Trevor if you kill one of them
@@whitezombie10that makes more sense to me, shame they never added that to any re-release of the game
@@Gamer-Wolf.psshhhhttttt commit suicide? Nah you're making shit up.
I find it funny that as criminals, they do they paleto score just to buy things for another heist, instead of ya know stealing the things they need, making them untraceable. Like mikey leaving his backpack in the life invader office, for a veteran he is kinda amateur. It's all kinda strange the more you think about it
maybe it's supposed to be comedic
@@ozwellespencer955 somehow I doubt rockstar would have done that
@@KM-jb3vg If there’s one thing Rockstar NEVER does, it’s make jokes in their games.
@@CactusCanonbad jokes, that is
Kind of like in Gta 4. Niko will make a phone call.
"The jobs done. I killed him for you boss"
Way to admit everything over the phone. The Rockstar writers need to hire someone that can write and think with actual logic.
I've completed the campaign exactly 6 times as I didn't know that you can scare architect and steal the plans- I always killed him and then had to clear the wanted level
Same
Same, except I usually do it stealth to avoid police
i always shoot him asap, take the plans, and then drive out of there quickly, takes like two minutes tops
Just follow him until hes in a secluded area then knock him out from behind and parachute away
I was dumb, so I accidentally pressed jump and tackled his ass, causing me to get 2 stars
I like how the thumbnail implies that Dave lives at the observatory.
I never even noticed that 🤣
daveyyyyy!
"implies" he does though? That's just where he lives
He doesn’t?
i always wondered why it was called the observatory and not "Daves house"
Another interesting thing to note is that in a video on Gameology, the voice actor of Franklin revealed that originally in The Long Stretch, Franklin was the one who used the gun to kill D but it changed to Stretch killing D.
Wow, was literally gonna mention this but i noticed you already beat me to it.😂
Yeah it wasn’t really in Franklin’s character
I could swear that Lamar kills D in the original game. Stretch is cool with the Ballas, since you know he constantly sets Lamar and Franklin up for the Ballas to hustle them or kidnap/kill them. He got close to the ballas in prison and is now one of them or atleast very connected to them. Definetly Lamar.
@@Jartran72 i looked up the gta series videos guide and stretch kills D
Stretch killing D wouldn't make a lot of sense and could definitely be a later addition due to complications regarding Lamar's VA, as Stretch in the original plot was probably more like a Big Smoke-type double crosser and D was an OG of the Ballas
“Originally we were going to steal a monster truck of drugs”
God dammit Rockstar
Surprised this video doesn't mention the entire cut heist at Madrazo's house, where Michael and Trevor would dress up as clowns during a party. It is heavily implied as Trevor says they were "casing the joint" during Caida Libre.
"I read you man, loud and clear"
i think it's because this mission is well known, so Matto just didn't included it cause everyone has heard of it ;w;
There's a few heists that were completely cut but are too big and off topic in a video about "what changed to existing missions"
@@welheizel9682 I don't see how it would be off topic when the title says "GTA 5'S Removed and Altered Missions". It's a removed mission, that's pretty on topic lol.
@@TheDBZ_KING7_OfficialThe video's based off of information from the missions.xml file, as specified in the beginning of the video.
oh my god 3:28
i finally realised why on bleeter the probably guy that was meant to survive said
"It's an outrage! The police threw Sebastian off a bridge and took our cars! Daddy's so buying me a Grotti now. #lspd #police brutality #reversesnobbery"
i was so confused after reading that considering nobody threw anyone off a bridge
Fun fact: on the og Xbox 360 game page for gta v if you go through the screenshots, Franklin is seen chasing the plane in the Martin Madrazzo mission
My theory for the Paleto score is that midway trough development, the story changed so much, that the heist wouldn't make sense to exist, but they kept it bc they knew it was too much of a big and impressive setpiece to dump
What do you mean?
@@The_Punisher read
There was also a mission where Michael had to steal a Hydra fighter jet for Solomon Richards. I don’t know why Solomon needs a military grade vehicle for his films but it would be cool to have the Hydra in the story mode
Might be a crazy theory of mine, but I think it would make sense Michael do that in that movie called "the simp" which already has a trailer in the final version in the cinemas, in this movie there's some hydras
Kinda interesting that a few of these were done to make Michael less bloodthirsty. Michael is still a monster but I guess they wanted to make him seem more sane than Trevor at least. Although I would argue that Michael going out murdering and stealing and then trying to live the domestic life with his family, is still pretty insane. That insane part of Michael was never going anywhere though. Even if he hadn't pulled Madrazzo's house down, something else would have pulled him back into the game.
Not all adrenaline junkies are doing extreme sports. Some are doing extreme crime. However Michael always tried to avoid murder. In the Prologue he did not want to kill any security guards or cops but the cops forced his hand. He did not want to kill Laslo, the janitor and many more. He is not bloodthirsty but also has no problem killing when it is required for him to retain his freedom and riches.
Yea, seeing Micheal straight up murder the janitor was some real Hitman shit.
@@Jartran72in the prologue he didnt want any casualties because he made a deal with dave and no casualties was part of the terms (before everything went wrong) not because hes morally good
@@kendalroycoalso the fact that Michael Townley is so infamous that "killing" him gave Dave an incedible boost in his career might say alot about how intense Michael is, atleast in his prime.
I Believe that the B option for pleato score was to NOT LEAVE the bank at all as the text suggested 'hold up' thus making a heavy rescue with a tank logically makes sense. Never no why they scrapped that part.
May partially from the terrible logic of the tank itself.Rockstar only figured out sensible seater-independ vehicles way further in APC of Gunrunning DLC for GTAO
Hold up is a synonym for rob
That makes sense since the paleto score is based on the 1997 LA Bank of america heist in which the heavily armed robbers instead of trying to escape stayed there
I think in hang ten they changed it to imply that Debra killed Floyd and Trevor killed Debra in revenge. The weasel news report states that the man was shot and the woman stabbed, amd Debra was the only one with a gun.
i thought Floyd had the knife but i guess Trevor could have picked it up after he was shot but why wouldn't she shoot Trevor before he got the knife
@@dollarstorejasonstathem8958 shes a woman and obviously not very experienced with firearms, trevor could probably overpower her
@@antonio8393bob taught her tho
@@dollarstorejasonstathem8958 trevor carries a knife with him, no way he doesn't have a pistol or blade on him in public.
@@dollarstorejasonstathem8958Debra dosent have experience with guns contrary to why’s he got popped💀
we all appreciate the hard work you are putting into these videos man and we thank you
Later heists being done according to choices in previous ones makes perfect sense, as Rockstar did want GTA V to be more RPG-like game, but only ended up having choices for the player near the endings. RPG's commonly have later missions affected by previous ones, like in Cyberpunk what choices you have in Act 3 and what endings unlock for you and your companions are completely dependent upon your choices during the Act 2 of the game and the ending of Phantom Liberty expanion is determined by choices during the Expansion's playthrough and it also affects ending of the main game. Similar plans could have been in place for GTA V. This also explains why gunmen skill is broken, i.e. their skill never increase. Originally there was probably more to the crew system than plain bad or good, maybe their deaths would have dependent upon your choices during the heist. We can only guess..
The mission where Jimmy gets catfished would've been better than the release version imo
This is a very high effort video.
Well researched, well edited, much attention to detail with mods or director mode, it would be criminal for this video to underperform
What about the fact that he made sevaral mistakes? If it was well-researched he wouldn't say things like there being no reason for Franklin to abandon the boat when in fact it is mentioned in-game that the bay was full of cop boats which is why Franklin abandoned it.
The meat munching is crazy
@@nogoodgod4915 No, the point he makes with the boat isn't about Franklin leaving the boat. It's about they having a boat in the first place, as they're doing the heist to have money to buy stuff for a later heist, including buying a boat. If they already have a boat, no need to get money to buy another boat.
I personally would’ve loved if, in Monkey Business, you were told of the 6 man team requirement beforehand, and you could choose old heist members to help you
Love Davey's face among the playable characters on the thumbnail
Should’ve been Lamar, the real hero of GTA 5
If Lamar is Jesus, Davey's god
Is it possible that there was a mission where Matthew judge was graduating from college and Michael and Jimmy had to step in and revoke the diploma to ensure his streaming career would take off?
I never actually understood the Molly mission while playing, it felt way too grand for just getting a film back, with police getting involved.
it wasn't just for the movie. Steve literally said he would turn the movie place and turn it into a bunch of condos giving him a gain of some kind
What I didn't and still don't get is that the gap in Molly's attitude between in the first cutscene of the mission and during the chase. Like, why does she act like everything is going as planned, and then not, as soon as she starts driving? Now if it was supposedly Mr. Cheng's translator, it makes more sense.
@@notsadness *Devon, Steve is the FIB agent
@@notsadnessDevon you mean
@@The_Punisher i know now, i havent played the game in years
Phenomenal video as always but, I mostly wanted to comment for the sake of the thumbnail, it is amazing. It's extremely high quality and it has a very lovely style. I hope we get to see more of such thumbnails. (I also love how it implies that Davey is a protagonist.)
This was interesting and very well made. Thank you, Matto!
Please keep doing content like this your commentary really fits in
The minisub might also have been added to the Merryweather heist just so we'd get to use it at least once during the story
there was also another cut mission where Michael and Trevor had to rob Madrazo's mansion: the "Sharmoota Job", in which the game had you steal one of his horses alongside Patricia
Yeah, in this heist, you have been able to dress as clowns. Trevor has a fear of clowns and this would have shown more of that, but he does go through with the plan. Shame this had to be cut, imagine GTA V with horses.
We know, we all watched that VadimM video 6 years ago cupcake :)
@@SoAaron_There was also different approaches to the heist
@@l0uie574 Clowns being one of them, also dressing up as a couple was one of them I think
@@SoAaron_ there was like 3 approaches to it
Jesus, the Epsilon quest is exceedingly repetitive and irritating already. Imagine having to do 50 days and 20 miles?! Thank Kifflom that somebody realized how insane that is.
Looking at the beta/cut content is so fascinating for rockstar games.
They can’t keep getting away with it!!!
They can because we keep buying into their good old days dopamine, the decent company they were when we were all still in our youth...
"in 2B" yeah man, i wish i was in 2B
1:25 Deez Lines
i would be surprised if the ballad of rocco wasnt originally meant to be different, since the mission we got sucks total ass. a horrible goodbye from a character that played such an important role in tbogt
It was nice to kill him but its a very short mission, its quite similar to how Ryder was killed, as in you just shoot him in a driveby but with cars instead of boats etc.
@@SoAaron_ yeah exactly, they definitely ran out of time and just made this dumb mission, same with ryder, he was originally meant to play a different role in the story but there were some complications with the voice actor
only good part is the music
The fact that the clips were created moding the game to show how it was intended to be at the beggining makes this video so interesting to watch!!
cool concept made with hard work, love u DarkViper
The content coming out recently from you has been really good and entertaining
This one was really awesome, thank you for putting all that together. Cheers, sir
2:59 I’m glad you finally watched Heat after such a long time (of me telling you to).
matto never fails to make me smile :) thanks for yet another awesome upload !
hey matt, hope you´re doing good.
Forgot to say that i love the YT content you make!
Franklin says that police were all around the area where the boat is….
4:00 “oh oh right ugh the helipad is on the roof” ….. well no shit where else would it be, in the basement? 😂
CONGRATS ON 1000 VIDS MATE!
There's nothing we can do
Bro isnt Napoleon
Billions must die
We live we love we lie😢
Stop buying inferior experiences
It Is What It Is.
Even though I know a lot about GTA V's cut content. It was pleasantly surprising to find out some extra things. Keep up the good work.
Can you give me copy link of his secret videos on member exclusive
Getting on top of the container reminds me of the first mission in Saints Row 3, where the saints rob a bank vault and hang on top of it.
5:58 I guess it was the weather
Underrated
now this is great content, def gonna need more similiar sutff Matt
I absolutely loved the intro I replayed it like 10 times. It's so funny. Love the video
I honestly cant tell if it's just me, but the cop at the desk on the "eye in the sky " @ 3:52 mission sounds like a literal middle schooler trying to sound like an adult no? Lmao I just cant unhear it
Omg I thought I was the only one who noticed for years
Heat is like the perfect movie
Great video! Very well made
Jimmy getting forced to larp wouldve been funny
No one will see this, but Legal Trouble originally was the fourtt Trevor mission where Trevor went on a rampage to kill Cheng and the Translator. The mission plays out the exact aame, except Trevor has an objective to destroy 13 police cars.
Cool
Didn't Cheng die in option c? I haven't played in a while but but I think Franklin kills him. It'd make sense if they changed it because of that. Like how in 4 Niko could get a call to hit the mafia dude or Bulgarin, who dies at the end of BOGT so they forced Niko to kill the other guy.
@@CyranofromBergerac iirc that's reconned in online, but I believe so
You should look up the game “The Corridor” it has a “Content creator” mode that adds a message to the creators that I think you would resonate with. I don’t want to spoil it but the game is story based like the Stanley Parable.
THANKS for the vid matto
Looking good as always Matt
Honestly that jimmy mission would've been better if they kept the original
I wish these removed and altered missions were left in the game.
Wow, you can tell that a lot of effort was put into this video, and the result is great, keep up the amazing job, Matt ❤
The only thing I wish Rockstar didn't removed was single player DLC
Was Jimmy supposed to be living the dream?
Ive noticed something that was taken away from normal gameplay thats in the newer versions of gta 5 and still on xbox 360 and probably ps3 versions, when I recently played gta 5 on the 360 i crashed into a vehicle driven by a NPC and the part of the vehicle i hit was the front tire and it came off and ive noticed that never happens in the newer versions of gta5
No other gta creator goes through this much effort for content. Thanks matto
At one point during development there was an Orgy involving people in their 60's. I can't remember the story but I know Michael turned up at their house and the scenes were wild. A true sight to behold
I remember hearing that on Vadim M's video
Never forget what they took from you…
HE DID NOT BOOP US AT THEN END 😭
love your content
The heist with the multiple banks and the sea escape would have been so fucking cool
Fleeca contract from tuners
"Matto is the key to Australian people.."
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Hey what a nice original idea by matt although some of the things said in the video are not entirely accurate but this was pretty interesting
GTA 5 also took 10 years from me.
When I heard that we were supposed to sleep for 50 days in the Epsilon missions, I was like "50 days??" and the running in the desert for 20 miles. I'm glad Rockstar changed that
I can't believe that all these years later he still calls that mission "Cada Libre".
20 miles actually makes sense as its roughly the length of a standard marathon.
i love this videos about unreleased/changed content
Very Interesting, Thanks Matto 😊👍
Darkviper: kinda hacks into gta 5 files
R*: you're not supposed to be here *gun pointed
8:25 this version of the heist (at least the bit where u land the helicopter on the building) is part of the contracts update when u do the dr dre missions for the agency, so its kind of interesting that its called the agency heist
I've just done the Paleto score yesterday and it made even less sense for me, since Trevor had a Cargobob from the Merryweather score (option B makes you hijack one from Fort Zancudo)
Day 844 of asking DarkviperAU to play GTA Chinatown Wars.
Really well done video
I love you matto keep up the good work
Glad to see all four protagonists in the thumbnail: Franklin, Michael, Trevor and Davey.
Nice to see Matto reference heat as it's one of my favourite movies
You know, the change from having Cheng's translator get killed by the jet engine to it being Molly after taking the film print would explain why they had to add the whole "that wasn't actually the only print, the film was all digital, she didn't have to die at all" joke
Because while Trevor would certainly chase someone through the airport purely for the sake of chasing them, they needed to create a reason for Michael to chase after Molly, and after realizing it didn't make much sense for it to be the ONLY print, they decided to make it a joke
Plus, it kinda explains why they have Molly, who is usually pretty calm and collected, suddenly panic and think Michael is trying to kill her. Since those actions were originally attributed to the translator, who was running from Trevor who was probably ACTUALLY trying to kill him
There's a scene at the beginning of the game where Michael says he's in witness protection
i thought the gear from the plaleto score was in the truck you steal
In the final cut, yes. In the alternate cut it'd just be the minigun and machine guns.
love that he didn't know who to put in the fourth slot in the thumbnail so he just put davey
I'd be worried about talking about files Rockstar left in, last time someone talked about their files, chaos.
You know, in hindsight, Michael getting Trevor to help him Caida Libre, when he critcized Davey for doing this with the Mr. K mission earlier on AND knowing what Trevor can do, is one of the more stupid things the characters do in the plot. Considering what we know and see of Trevor, Michael getting him to help someone like Madrazo was just a baffling decision.
I think Micheal knew working for Madrazo would turn out badly and genuinely did want to protect Franklin. Trevor might be a terrifying psychopath, but so is Madrazo, and Trevor is OUR terrifying psychopath. Poor Mike didn't have a whole lot to work with. (plus for narrative reasons the game needed to coop Micheal and Trevor up together, and Michael being a smelly angry asshole in Sandy Shores is far more worth it imo)
Yeah, I see that. But I feel based on all Michael has said and seen of Trevor, it feels like a weird decision for him to make. It seems like he didn't even consider Trevor might do something crazy or if he did, he didn't take good enough steps to stop him.
@@commanderproton7763 I guess Michael thought that getting paid would pacify trevor. clearly he was right, since not getting paid made him kinda get a little angry
@@SidneySaturday IIRC, Michael didn't even know if Madrazo was gonna pay him or not, hence why he tells Trevor over the phone that if he doesn't, to let him handle it.
It's certainly something he should've cleared first, I think. Who knows if that would've changed things.
I feel like this mission overall feels like a contrived way to force Michael and Trevor out of Los Santos for a bit.
I’m used to RUclipsrs with very inconsistent upload schedules, maybe a week or two in between, Matt is spoiling me with these crazy upload speeds.
Loving these scripted videos Matto, Keep up the great work!
The soundtrack to the game also still calls the bureau hesit, the agency heist 8:24
8:19 bro got mugged got save and got mugged again 💀
Good video as always, but I think it was way too fast. The stream of information was constant and there was not any downtime to allow me to palate the info I got.
a decade old and gta v still has so much unexplored content
Going through and handing out likes, and then the intro made me laugh out loud. Great people.
this was very interesting!
The Agency Heist is still the name of the soundtrack of the Bureau Raid, I listen to the soundtrack enough that I often forget the mission's real name. Definitely suggests the name was changed late in development.