The Truth Behind The Epsilon Program - Grand Theft Auto V
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Got a little bit of a lengthy one for you today as we dive into the lore surrounding Grand Theft Auto V's all-American cult, the Epsilon Program. So join me as we dive down one monster of a tedious rabbit hole and get to the bottom of what's really driving the Epsilonists.
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Franklin being instantly denied access to the Epsilon website based on IP address actually makes sense considering that story-wise, he comes from a black (and thus poor) neighbourhood and even speaks to Michael about his conditions growing up early in the story.
Considering Epsilon is only interested in leeching rich individuals, it makes perfect sense why Franklin was denied.
Trevor is also probably due to him living out in the countryside where most people ain't rich, so again - little monetary interest.
Michael was the perfect target for the Epsilon Program as he was the paradigm candidate - rich middle-aged man living in a rich mansion suffering from a midlife crisis.
"If I wanted to be in a cult, I would have started one"
-Trevor Phillips
what if he accesed the site after the assassination mission
Also, your online character gets instantly denied.
@@stoneeagle7360because they are a criminal entrepreneur and are open
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There's also a deleted phone call from Trevor when Michael is running in the desert. If even Trevor says that you look ridiculous, then some signals must be pulled
A man who literally wears dresses telling you that is a huge sign if you ask me lol.
@@RottenEnt757 Acting live the most Crazy thing Trevor does is wear dresses and not eating people
@@RottenEnt757him wearing dresses is far from ridiculous compared to the many other things he does daily. still if Tevor is calling you out. you may want to rethink things lol
Fun fact about Chris Formage: although saying Fromage instead of Formage is funny, it is even better as a french canadian, where I like to say "Criss Fromage", Criss being a slur, it would most likely translate to "Fucking cheese"
It also sounded a bit like Chris from Arsch, the latter being the German word for "ass"
Completely unrelated, but love ya profile pic 🤘🤘
CHURCH WORDS
I know a little french and Formage always reminded me of cheese but I didn't know that Criss was also a word.
@@Yes-Bean In this particular use it's specific to the Quebec dialect, which uses a number of religious words as swears
One hour lore video from fizhy we feasting good tonight
Correction, a 1 hour 13 minute and 40 second lore video from me.
@@Fizhyyou forgot the milliseconds
@@doode- fuck the milliseconds
@@Fizhy Damn those Milliseconds hurt you bad.
@@rodan9773 they stole my wife and my kids
Michael questions the orders in the first couple of missions but then stops the questioning and logic halfway through. (spirits have e-mail part cracked me up)
He sees more and more epsilonists every mission. He doesnt want to stick out so he starts adapting. But in the last mission Michaels insticts kick in when he sees the money. He values dollars more than so called inner peace.
Nah, he was skeptical from the very beginning to the end. You can see he's being unserious (replying "Kifflom" at whatever bullshit he was being told), and maybe a little bit amused. He was probably going along for shit and giggles. This fits the choice with stealing, and I personally consider it to be the correct/canon choice for this side mission (partly bc of the additional voice lines the other choice was lacking).
At some point, he just starts saying Kifflom to everything instead of questioning it XD
"Sometimes all you need is a little faith" sounds like someone needs to make some smoke then disappear
don't forget the money, never forget the money.
"NOISE ARTHUR! NOHOHOOOOOISE!"
A WHOLE LOT OF COMMMMMOTION!
bro needs to start producing a mass amount of bliss and selling it to the locals in montana
Dont be an antethesis borak
The epsilon program is also a giant Easter Egg to Scientology
Indeed
we got a sherlock here lol
We see how far that's fallen in recent years too. No reason to think it wouldn't follow a similar tract in GTA world.
@@bhart3321 strangely enough at some point realities start to merge.. as it takes a up a ton of real estate in the subconscious. The file size of the game itself portends to it taking up more space in the players life. The two are intertwined. The bigger the game, the more time spent on it to reach some emotional fulfillment, the next hit.
Thank you captain obvious
Fun Fact: The Extraterrestrial Signal Reader is actually an PKE Meter from Ghostbusters! In the movie (and game) it beeps and tells you if what you wre looking at is a supernatural object or if a supernatural entity has interacted with it, although obviously the Reader in GTA V probably just reads radio signals, considering it led Michael and Boston to an old TV
It’s a called a PKE meter to be more accurate
@@theshenpartei Ah! Thanks for that correction,it's been a while since I've watched Ghostbusters
There's also the shoe at the end which probably was more (in universe) the thing randomly bullshitting at random time intervals
It was first introduced in _San Andreas_ on the Entertaining America portion of WCTR when Lazlow conducted an interview with Cris (voiced in both _SA_ and _V_ by Fred Melamed, best known for his roles in _A Serious Man_ and the third season of _Fargo_ ). It was then referenced once or twice in _Liberty City Stories_ and even further in _IV_ both on the internet and on the radio (on the Intelligent Agenda portion of PLR, Vinewood actor Brandon Roberts yells, "Kifflom!"). Of course, _V_ obviously features it more prominently thanks to its setting and storyline, but it's been part of the series since the 3D Era.
If _VI_ features a parody of Clearwater, Florida, then I'd totally expect to find another Epsilon center there, as in real-life Scientology maintains a large presence in Clearwater.
Also, I think it should be noted that Marnie was a random character you could encounter in _IV,_ in which she was a prostitute who was addicted to heroin. In the second encounter, Niko gives her some money to catch a train out of Liberty City. Her dark backstory helps explain why she fell into Epsilonism and is the way she is when Michael meets her in LS.
Just found this channel after recently reinstalling RDR2 and I’ve binge watched almost every rockstar video you have. Keep it up!
Much appreciated!
Exact same for me haha, Literally playing rdr2 as I listen
@@bk_nreynolds3278 Man I wish I could do that but Rdr2 I get so immersed in I just get lost in the game
Fun fact about the end of the mission after donating $5000, if you keep the camera facing Marnies general direction, you can go as far as you want from her and the mission wont actually end, at least not until you turn the camera away from her general direction
Another fun fact, whenever you're in the FIB building, if you walk into the tvs in the building they glitch out and the screens detatch to reveal a 2nd screen underneath showing the Epsilon program so maybe the FIB is even in on the Epsilon thing too
After all that Marnie has been through and all the progress she made in GTA 4, it’s really sad to see that she’s fallen into a cult. I hope she’ll make a reappearance in GTA 6, hopefully as a psychiatrist like she had planned.
We need a niko appearance Even if it's just a cameo type thing
People don't change that easily
There’s whole town of scientologists in florida. They own the town and it is a creepy cult like environment. They could put that town in gta 6 since it’s in vc
add it to the list of things GTA V ruined.
@@bovinebovinicles That would be awesome. A place where all the people are wearing light blue clothes and brainwashed. I’m in!
100k for a rusty tractor is a bargain compared to GTA online prices.
There's one that spawns at the lighthouse for free
Oh way to go Mr.Blow the Picture for me 😂
The Epsilon program needs to make a return in GTA VI.
It will be, it has been a thing since GTA San Andreas and took a bit of relevance in Liberty and Vice City Stories, also mentioned in GTA IV
If I recall correctly, doesn't Scientology basically own a whole town in florida? It would be cool if it was referenced in gta vi considering vice city's based on miami lol
@@RubyRedPhoenix413Clearwater, Florida.
Interesting bit of research for sure
Minus the creepy ass theme music blaring from their website and buildings, yes it absolutely should.
@@matijota8728there is also a phonecall at Chatterbox FM in Gta 3 where a guy says that women are made out of sand
Remember, the first time your player dies in GTA online, Cris Formage comes down from the clouds and tells you about passive mode.
Ah there you mention it right at the end.
It’s good that your getting a liveable amount of views on non rdr2 stuff. The quality of your videos are unmatched in any game really.
Hear, hear!
Agreed.
The San Andreas Epsilon Program was hella creepy, especially that farm house with blue lights and the blue car in the desert, it was so ominous, and given it was at the time the San Andreas PC mods blew up, the mods made around the theory were so cool and still kept that unknown eerie feel
The altruists are part of Epsilon, remember the name of the mission? body harvest? is the first DMA video game where its cover is the same as the altruistic website (removing the alien insectoid god Zapho), the plan is there.
I can't believe you made a video about the Epsilon Program that is longer than the speedrun for all Epsilon Missions.
Details, sir, details...
Man, people say gta5 is "empty" but I had no idea this was a thing, the gane keeps surprising me
Ya I didn’t know about that one side quest with collecting all the scraps of paper to unsolve the murder mystery until I got gta 5 for ps5 lmao
My old Xbox 360 icon!
the epsilon cult easter egg has been there since gta san andreas
@randomannoyance I'm sure it has nit thus whole thing is a story line in the game I had no idea existed for gta5
People say it's empty because they aren't spoon fed information. It's a growing trend in modern gaming where if a game doesn't explicitly lay everything out for you, people pretend that stuff doesn't exist.
Fun bit with the robes, if you are just out and about whilst wearing them, Michael will start sarcastically reciting Epsilonist phrases
This is maybe an explanation: Zolag is near "Zo laag " in dutch it means >so low and Zondar is near "Zonder" which means without, because Michael represents nothing at least
It could also mean "zondaar" meaning "sinner"
19:14 the unexpected zoom-in on "Girth", I feel, is an underrated part of this video and made me spit my drink in laughter
you could say that trevor has an entire thesis for why he is unsavable
The first 40 seconds of this video introducing the Epsilon program could also perfectly describe GTA online.
18:49 I like how the subscribe button flashes in that moment
youtube detects when people say subscribe i’m pretty sure
Oh man, Fizhy, you’re an absolute jewel.
Been watching you for a few years now, but you surpass yourself with each video.
Keep it up! Can’t wait to hear this masterpiece whole.
I recall hearing references to the Epsilon Program in Previous GTA Games, From random NPC dialogue to radio announcements in GTA San Andreas and Vice City Stories.
It's pretty cool how Rockstar has interwoven this fictional cult into the In-game lore through subtle references in different generations of games. It makes the games feel more vivid and "alive" in terms of world building.
@@erezzecharia01 Not the same worlds though. The cult is never seen in the 3D Universe, so they make an actual, physical apparition in the HD Universe. This logic is applicable to any celebrity and radio host who has never appeared in older GTA games.
@@KC.45 It doesn't make sense for R* to have the 2D and 3D games take place in seperate universes, when you have audio files of Cris Formage and hearing "Kifflom!" in the 2D and 3D games. If they were seperate, they shouldn't have any correlation to the Epsilon Program in the 3d games. It wouldn't even be mentioned in the 2D era if that was the case. The same with hearing Michael talk about Carcer City, which was a city in another R* made franchise in Manhunt. My head canon is that almost every R* game, 2D era or otherwise; take place in the same universe, and that it's all connected somehow.
@@HorizonOfOrion You clearly haven't done sufficient research on this subject.
There's a ton of cut audio from GTA V featuring a ton of npcs who say Epsilon greetings, ie "Kifflom!"
I feel like I might be much more interested in a cult if its leader's name was Mister Cheese
Mistah Boombastic~
I know this must remind most players of Scientology with all the celebrities thing, but y'all ever heard about Raëlism ? I feel like there's a lot of inspiration drawn from there as well
As will most Rockstar satire, the Epsilon Program draws inspiration from a combination of real world examples. Scientology is a big one, Raëlism also cropped up in my research.
Raëlism is one of the inspos. The money thing tho is scientology
for one of the payphone hit missions, you get an asian who you have to pick up in a taxi. he often says "Kiflahm" when entering the car. but it begs the question- WHO hired the hit. was it epsilon themselves or someone who knows of their corruption
Knowing the fact that there's a YTMND clip/GIF about Scientology's mysterious deaths and the conspiracies relating to them, this is a nod to the theory that some of the deaths should have been treated seriously.
Super grateful for your work when it comes to breaking down rockstar content.
"being happy and free from thought vs die in ignorance sound like the two takes on the same thing". I guess we are also gonna get some IRL lore to think about as well cuz that fucked me up for a bit lol.
Loving the GTA content Fizhy, keep it coming. I'm currently going through Vice City again myself, there's a rich well of lore/backstory to mine across the games so I look forward to the next installment. You're my true RUclips comfort channel when I'm looking for something to watch!
i’m sorry but these videos are PEAK. please make more bro, u got a way with talking and explaining simple things
Just discovered this channel and I am hooked I've loved rockstar games for long but this this is on another level of goodness. Love it
Loved the cinematic flairs on this one, class video as always bro, keep up the class work!
Ive come to realise I like to let the videos you release build up a bit so I can binge watch it on a chosen day. Your voice and how you talk is very soothing and engaging.
Man I love these deep dive Rockstar lore videos so much 😭 lol Keep em coming Fizhy 😊
Hey in GTA Online i think you can/could make your character a descendant of John Marston. I dont remember if this was a limited time thing or if i hallucinated it.
edit: Also i think the whole thing is a scientology reference. A suprising amount of celebrities have "bought" into it.
You can make your GTA Online Protagonist *THE SON of John Marston* from *Red Dead Redemption* . It clearly says *"Father"* on the text. That whole "descendant of John Marston" part *was invented by the GTA Wiki many years ago* , when they firmly believed GTA and Red Dead were meant to be set in the same universe.
@@KC.45 Wouldn't you be the son of Jack Marston? Also this would still make you a descendant, even though we don't commonly call grandchildren descendants.
@@robertfaucher3750 Does Jack Marston have scars which were caused by wolves across his face? I thought so. You either don't want to understand or you just missing what's *plainly obvious* in what I said before.
@robertfaucher3750 no. Stop arguing and being pedantic. The option in game was for john. Not Jack. John. So no it wouldnt make you Jacks anything. Rockstar simply gave you the option to have John as a dad just cause haha funny. Thats all.
@@CJ2808 I wasn't being pedantic or argumentative. I just didn't remember it specifically mentioning him by name. Seeing as I didn't even remember it was in the game, it should be more understandable that I didn't remember that detail either. Also a son is someone's direct descendant. It's just weird to say it like that. Like, my father is my ancestor but we don't normally think of them that way.
Still making fire videos as always. Thanks Fizhy lol
My pleasure
you know in breaking bad, when walter white started working for gustavo fring. gus wasn't a cultist, he just was a druglord.
Always a good time to see a GTA Lore video. Keep up the great work man, have a great weekend and take care!
i never knew there was a second part to the story after stealing the 2.1million dollars. 10 years and yet i still learn new things
38:01 That “What the fuck” came from the soul😂
Hey Fizhy, there's actually a book on a shelf in one of the houses you can buy as Franklin (the one in vinewood hills) that is authored by a Jack Marston. It's a book related to the old west. We know Jack loved reading, he very may well have become an author.
You can get Lowry's revolver in GTAO too. Plus there's the Nazaar Speaks fortune telling machine, which is obviously somehow related to Madam Nazaar, or rather her spirit. Pretty sure theres some sussy fuckery going on with that one. I believe there's a few other "artifacts" and things that more or less confirm it at well, but i cant remember them off the top of my head.
The GTA V universe is the same one as the Red Dead games. I have no doubt. There wouldn't be *so many* references if they were just nods/easter eggs to a related but entirely seperate franchise.
Also, Michael's special ability(Area Kill) is literally just Dead-Eye tinted blue.
I just remembered you can get another gun in GTAO that is a gun from RDR2/O, the High Roller Revolver. Just an Easter egg? Or an artifact from that game universe's history?
13:20 Even Flat Earth is subject to getting roasted in GTA V.
Excellent video, very nice narration. The Epsilon Program is so funny.
36:05 You can indeed switch to Trevor, who sleeps for a longer duration, in order to fast forward through the 10 day robe ritual and return to Michael without losing progress.
i had no idea there was collectables after the epsilon missions 10 years or 2000 hours later still find new things
The task of running five miles in the desert can be sped up if you used the speed glitch. It won’t affect the missions progress
Oh god. Seeing that wall of text made my ADHD brain shriek in agony. AND ITS LIGHT BLUE ON WHITE.
How did you even manage to read a sentence??
I think we should take into consideration that Rockstar's writting is very satirical and parodical. So when the true intentions of the cult is a lot more apparent
this is now my favorite channel i started by watching rdr2 but now whatever u post i start watching keep up the good work
Thank you for the awesome vids man! Great way to spend a Saturday night in!🤘🤘
From a meta perspective we are the aliens in the other world playing our avatars, that's why the first time w die in online we meet him flying like a angel.
THERES MORE TO DO AFTER THE TRACTOR?! 😳 wow you learn something new everyday 😅
You should do a video on mount chilliad and everything connected to that place i haven't heard much people talk about it surprisingly
I'm slowly but surely educating myself on it so that video can be one of the best I could possibly ever do, so I'm in no rush to jump in
"I understand that this is fuckin it."
1:06:55 Does Michael not have a career in Vinewood? He's executive producer for Solomon Richards mid story and even in the Franklin Online DLC they made a callback to Michael being off work when crossing the studio area. I understand that is his actual ending, following his dream of making movies. There are even character transitions where you see Michael going off work from the studios. Just a really odd comment with this in mind IMO
Every time i saw or heard Kraff in this i think Kraft and my brain then thinks how this is the weirdest advertisement for Kraft Mac & Cheese ive ever seen
Im low on sleep lol
This channels amazing, I just found your account earlier this afternoon but I'm gonna binge all of your videos for sure. Great content man
I've been waiting for a video like this for ages. Thank you so much.
I’m so happy your covering gta 5 now I loved your rdr2 lore videos I’m gunna be soaking these up for the next week or two lol your the best man!
2:45 I feel personally attacked by this 😂
Yeah this is peak cinema. Can't wait to watch this tonight in beed
That is the place to do it
wink@@Fizhy
The Epsilon missions are both funny and a bit arduous. But in the end I'll take the money which is rewarding. F*** Kifflom! 🤣
So the Epsilon Project is pretty much the Illuminati of the GTA world? 🤔
It’s kinda interesting, aside from Micheal himself this part of GTA V hasn’t actually been touched in GTA online updates, everything else has, kinda makes one wonder why this topic hasn’t become center part of an update yet
Guess they've said all they wanted to say on it.
I have enjoyed many of these videos! Keep up the good work, it’s very appreciated!
I appreciate you taking the time to enjoy them!
@@Fizhy I appreciate the depth you go into! I enjoy the deep dives into the seemingly endless supply of content in Rockstar games, the vids have kept me company very often!
Noice an hour long video
oh aye
Lore videos from you are the biggest piece of art ever
Was waiting for more Gta 5 content, Thank you Mr.Fizhy
Glad to deliver a little video to appease the appetite.
Great video fella. Kifflom!
The truth behind the fruit tree is a lie is probably just a refference to Portal "The Cake is a Lie"
Step 1- the truck, exists as an initiation. It determines how dedicated someone is to joining. You'd have to be dedicated to pay $500 after getting beat up. It also doubles as reinforcement of determination as part of a sunk cost. You got beaten up, might as well continue, otherwise it would have been for nothing.
Saints Row had something similar called "Canonizing"
The ✨V O I C E S ✨
40:00 brought back memories of taping the analogue stick and x button on my ps3 controller ten year ago to do this for me
How the fuck am I seeing this 3 months later.
You know it’s good when my man posts an hour video
Random thing I looked up after seeing B-roll of Michael doing yoga. There actually is a point to the yoga minigame besides completing the story, it also trains your special stat, so you can use Michael's bullet time ability for longer.
you should’ve mentioned that epsilon was a parody of scientology
i just started playing gta v again this morning so it’s pretty funny seeing you make a video about it
The videos lately have been on point! Thank you!
When this was first discovered, someone uploaded a complete text copy of the tract. I fed that to whatwouldisay and the resulting procedurally generated posts were gold.
It's a tetrahedron scheme
I like the slow descent into madness Michael is experiencing
Saturday morning and new Fizhy video. This is gonna be a good day.
Probably worth pointing out that Chris "cheese" Fromage seems to transcend universes. As we know there are two universes and canons, the 3D era and the HD era. But as it happens Chris himself is on a radio interview in GTA San Andreas promoting his cult.
Not really, the Epsilon Program as a whole have just crossed-over to the next universe. Rockstar confirmed this.
One hour video mate …. what can I say ! Thanks ? Hell no
Fizhy’s been cooking , we are feasting good tonight !
Welcome to the mighty scran
I wish there was more epsilon missions
Your Michael looks like Alan from the Hangover 2.
In GTA online, you can get the epsilon robes by tipping the guy in the bathroom of the nightclub a metric fuck ton of times.
Wait, is the epsilon program just a parody of Scientology?
Kiflom Brother Brother, Cris says you did well and will be Rewarded 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Do a children of the mountain
the map feels small when the centre is just around the connor from your house
I guess Darius Fontaine was right about Chris in the 90’s about being “a liar and cheat” during Lazlow’s Radio Show in GTA San Andreas WCTR - Entertaining America
I've always wondered what was happening when I first died in online mode lol
I remember one time when I was going three the GTA 5 story mode a few of my friends were watching and I started this mission. I have never heard anyone laugh so hard in my laugh. Especially what you get when you turn in the money and don't kill everyone.
I just always thought they were big University of North Carolina Tar Heel fans.
58:46
Also he has cyan clothes ( or at least a shirt ) just like everyone else in the epsilon program
I feel like I learnt a lot about scientology today