Strange Man Explained & Identity Revealed (Red Dead Redemption 2)
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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“I go by many names. God. Satan. Death. You can call me by my real name, Gavin.”
Where is Gavin ? Have you seen my friend Gavin ?
lmfao
Gavin is a split personality
Man, Nigel is looking for you!
Gavin...
You piece of sh**
No wonder this guy uncovers EVERY seceret in this game with such accurate detail. He is the strange man after all.....
@signoguns Who knows? He's the Strange Man after all...
He must be a dev or something, he is really good solving Mysteries.
I'm the mayor after all
@@derpyzmayhem420 😐
@@spaceman9410 far to busy to talk right now
*I am the Mayor after all*
So when you see him in the mirror, death is literally right behind your shoulder looming over you. Nice and symbolic.
I think his appearance in the mirror is a lot more revealing than that
I think it indicates that he’s a kind of a representative or a personification of the game’s morality system, and he shows up in the mirror because he’s always watching you and the choices you make-your actions, after all, are a reflection of your true self that betrays who you really are in a way that can’t be hidden away no matter how many lies you may want to tell yourself
This also explains why so much of what appears in his shack changes and evolves in response to the player making these particular kinds of moral choices, as well as why the man thinks of himself as an accountant-his overriding responsibility is to keep track and maintain a running tally of these choices as you make them, and maybe even to ensure that the appropriate consequences for each choice are carried out no matter what
@@ronjohnrosina yeah, well put and it makes sense. Some loopholes though
@Ethan Rhodes yeah actually this makes even more sense especially when he gives you the choice to do what you want in the RDR1 missions without being mad or getting frustrated in any way
Ethan Rhodes Can you be a little more specific about where you’re picking up a religious and moral connotation, because I don’t see that at all in anything about the strange man, and I didn’t mean to indicate that I did
I never said that he cares about pushing you toward specific good or bad choices or passing judgment, only that he makes you aware of these situations, keeps track of the results, and maybe carries out consequences dispassionately-like an accountant moving numbers around from column to column based on how you handle each “transaction”
Ethan Rhodes No I definitely agree with you in that I don’t believe that he cares about “punishing” anyone for their choices like in Christianity where God sends bad people to Hell
It’s more like, you know, “You do this, then something happens, and I keep track of it simply because that’s my job”
It’s almost kind of meta because it reflects the way the devs approach the morality system in the game, since each event has a choice for you to make and something that happens as a result, but it never pronounces judgement by outright saying that your choices make you a good person or an evil person-like the Strange Man, all the morality system does is make you aware that these critical decisions and turning points exist, and then reflect your own choices back to you so that you can interpret for yourself what kind of person you are
I think the deal with the shopkeeper illustrates this whole thing rather well, as he reaches out to the Strange Man, who in turn informs him that he can choose between personal happiness or two generations-because those are the only two choices that the developers included in the game-and the Strange Man then proceeds to carry out the consequences of that choice and make him as deeply unhappy as possible without regard to the suffering of the rest of the town because all he’s been programmed to do is to handle these kinds of choices and see to it that the world changes appropriately to reflect those choices
But again, yeah I agree with you in that I don’t see any indication that the Strange Man feels particularly good or bad about any of this-all he seems to be concerned with is keeping a running tally of which choices are made and that whatever is supposed to happen as a result, for better or worse, actually occurs as it inevitably must as each decision is made and the results of that decision unfold
The amount of thought, time, and effort put into this game is insane! These are developers looking out for the players not just pumping out a game quick
frr
We need to tell yo something... Rocksrar made the game
@@killfected7309 we knew tho
Yeah no it was literally made by people getting paid, and worked like dogs. They don't care about you, they just want money so they can live.
"I'm an accountant"
Only two things in life are certain - death and taxes.
love that saying because its so true
Benjamin Franklin
and when you walk into Little Caesar's there'll be a $5 Hot and Ready pizza for you.
@@Aidan-zc8wx nah breathing is guaranteed I’m pretty sure blinking is to lmao smh
the scariest part of the game was applying for that bank loan as john
Also, when he says, "This is a fine spot. see you around cowboy." in the last mission interaction, he is standing where johns grave will be at
Who said that? Wich game rdr1?
So he thinks that the spot he's standing on is a "fine spot" for Johns grave.....
@@albaraamadeini1197 yes rdr1
@@fenasi4487
Yes! Most of us probably thought he was referring to the Plot of Land and John’s beautiful home... but no!
He was marking John’s spot! I have chills just thinking about it
@@littlepoodle7443 I just assumed he was talking about Johns final resting place, as in on his farm, just not on that exact spot
The Strange man is probably death. He even says "this is a fine spot" where the three graves will be.
John shot him three times on that hill three graves were up there
But he responds "many people have" when John said "Damn you!".
Goddamn is a pretty common thing to say...
Izhar Mark Divendra god isn’t the subject when you damn someone tho
@@zakkarywhiting8304 touché.
What do you make of the Strange man talking about his son in RDR1?
It's worth mentioning that cholera's lethality comes primarily from extreme dehydration. Considering that Armadillo's in the desert, it's a miracle that _anyone_ survived the outbreak.
I honestly hope Rockstar carry on with this Strange Man character arc...Quite possibly one of the most interesting characters and plot points I have ever seen in any videogame!
its was so nice if we see him in others rockstar games
i think the co founder of rockstar just stepped down so we may not get anymore games like this unfortunately
@@pwilk924 Dan Houser did step down, yeah. But that doesn't mean we can't get more content out of Strange Man
@@AndreRQL very true! i just dont want his absence from the company to become a domino effect and everyone start leaving
I really want to know way more about Francis Sinclair
When the strange man says “then why would you remember me”, it Makes more sense when you realize that John has faced near death multiple times
Oh yeah it does.
I would imagine that its not the near death experiences, but rather the fact that he has seen death before. He has killed, he has seen life drain from peoples bodies. He has seen death up close, and yet he still doesn't recognize him. They are practically old friends at this point.
Or he must’ve appeared after Heide McCort’s death
@@Naev0w0 actually its beceause both of them were in blackwater robbery scene arthur mentioned in his journal that someone looks like thewalny but not really him since he was gone for months meaning that they both met there and john saw him but forgot it....
@@thephoenix4093 i think trelawney met the strange man like how herbert moon met him. Maybe trelawney was highly impressed by the strange man that he started to dress like him and perform magic tricks to be similar to the strange man
I've always known the developers meant him to be the Grim Reaper: in the Far West, death was portrayed as a man dressed in black with a top hat. Ask The Gods.
Well, Saint Denis is on the east coast
@@gembly3237, the term "Far West" depicts generally the whole U.S.
Gembly
Saint Denis is based on New Orleans I believe
@@MegaChorro123 well yes i know that it is based on New Orleans but NO isn't on the east coast, no? I'm not american so correct me if i'm wrong
Gembly
Yeah it seems like it’s on the east coast but it isn’t. New Austin is based on Texas more or less and New Orleans to the east coast is a considerable distance.
I remember all the speculation about the Strange Man back when RDR1 came out. The consensus was that he was a manifestation of the Devil, though with RDR2 it is far easier to pin down that he is Death.
This is why I love Red Dead, it’s setting is a realistic and more down to earth but with the subtle presence of the supernatural.
Rockstar has away of implementing supernatural elements without compromising The grounded narrative
@@gleam6370 that’s exactly why I love R* Easter eggs
Cuz they were very spiritual back then to Indians and everyone alike they like so depict it as a wild west but its that with alot more awareness. Its amazing 💙
It's because it takes place in a realistic world so it's even more unsettling to know that there are super natural elements hidden in the map and side quest
I was really hoping when you walk out the door he just there waiting for you.
Little detail: if John sees the complete painting in the swamps before entering that shop for the first time, he will tell the shopkeeper in Armadillo that he saw the picture of Strange Man somewhere.
oh wow
is there a video of that? i want to see that
@@leocastrillo759 video by fizhy time stamp is 5:00
it's like John was the one always meant to meet him, not Arthur, Jack or anyone.
“Not really” “Then why would you remember me, friend?” The line delivery gives me chills
At the mirror part I thought he was really arthur’s ghost but at the end I’m convinced he is either god or the grim reaper
10:55 the town crier says 4 diseases that have afflicted the town.
Scarlett fever, desert plague, typhus, cholera.
4 horseman of the apocalypse:- War (rides a red/scarlett horse) Plague (pretty obvious) famine (typhus causes vomiting) Death (cholera causes death very quickly)
Nice catch man love it
There are also 4 horses in the undead nightmare edition of the game, not technically canon but they are based on these themes! War, Famine, Pestilence and Death. Very smart of the devs to include these details throughout the games. 😁
I think there are way more layers to this symbolism.
The third, a food merchant, rides a black horse symbolizing famine and carries the scales; pretty obvious what that one could allude to.
In John's revelation the first horseman rides a white horse, carries a bow, and is given a crown as a figure of conquest; this seems to make reference to dutch, he rides a white horse named "the duke" which sits nicely with the crown metaphor, he carries a bow because he generally sits behind the front line while his "gang" does the front work. Also his whole character is refusing to go down quietly and instead making war (or conquest) with the new world conventions. Instead of running he brings his gang through the heart of enemy territory and brings the fight to those who hunt him.
The red horse lines up pretty nicely with the pinkertons, they make war with the van der lind gang through the course of the story and visually all wear red vests.
Famine could also work as a metaphor for Micah, his actions directly lead to the scarcity of resources for the gang. The blackwater job leaves the gang without food, a bulk of their material possessions, or a stable place to live for quite some time; it could also be argued that the same happened in Valentine.
Lots of loose concepts and rhetoric here but I definitely think the four horsemen were a big narrative device for writing the games
Strange man explained by the strange man. Pissening.
Don't you have somewhere to be, Boba?
So Boba Fett finally speaks
You got out of the sarlacc pit?
I used the strange to explain the strange
that's kinda cringe bro ngl yes I did.
I think the phrase "I gave everything for art, and I learned everything and nothing at all" is talking about john and him deciding to kill Micah. Art (short for arthur) helped john give up his lawless lifestyle and made him appreciate his family, but he threw all that away as soon as he decidied to chase after micah. If he hadn't done that rdr1 wouldn't have happened and john would've had his happy ending
I think you are 100% correct here. I never made the Art/Arthur connection before you just did. It PERFECTLY explains John's story arc.
100% YES
I see a similar echo in Evelyn Miller's pursuit of art and wisdom, which proves empty.
Rdr1 has nothing to do with John chasing Micah.
It has to do with John being a member of the Dutch gang.
Rdr1 would have happened no matter what.
Plus, "Art" is not a short for Arthur, I've never seen or heard it before, and it really wouldnt fit with the other "riddles".
And finally, giving that the strange man's shack is filled with paintings and poems... Well, I think art means art.
Okay, but if “art” is short for Arthur, how does the poem make sense. Arthur have everything for John, nobody gave anything for Arthur
Anyone gonna talk about how that "From the snow to a cave" Is also referencing how dutch dies?
Oh shit
Refresh my memory. Did he run into a cave before John shot him, or what?
@@edwardofhydeiii666 He ran through a cave and killed himself by jumping off a cliff that led out of the cave
@@puppetplays7611 okay. I remember now. I forgot about the battle in the fort, and I could have sworn John shot him off the cliff. I was thinking about Ross shooting him with John's gun AFTER he fell through
Yeah
Rockstar's writers and artists are so incredibly skilled. The level of detail, and ability to create the story backwards is almost unbelievable. "Masterpiece" doesn't even do this franchise justice. All I can say is thank you. It's a shame about what is happening with Rockstar now though.
Not rockstar. Oh not at all. Read who and how rdr was made. It will never be games like that
It's a shame they can't make online as good as story
@@0DanteMayCry0 Just tell us what it is and source it if you want
I just noticed john’s grave says “blessed are the peacemakers” and in rdr2 micah has a mission called blessed are the peacemakers
That's the mission that arthur gets taken by the o'drisscoles (dont know how to spell there name) too.
@@jorja2033 o’driscolls
Yes because they both get betrayed Arthur by Micah and Dutch in that mission and John by being betrayed by the Pinkertons
Damn
@@myles3856 Hey Creepy Sniffy Joe!
Plot twist: Strange man is still alive and he decided to become a RUclipsr
Nah he became the G-Man
6 months later, hope you are fine and he didn’t kill you for revealing his secret :)
Nah he definitely still hiding from the Gavin guy
Yeah, because he is who he is
😂😂😂😂
When the
“The water is black with venom” came up I instantly thought of the Black water Massacre
I know I'm late, and this might seem a bit pretentious, but "black water" is 100% a reference to the Bible, where it is said that black water coming from the wells is the first sign of the apocalypse, caused by one of the four horsemen: namely, Pestilence. Which also explains the whole cholera thing.
Also, another thing: Cholera is in fact NOT the last epidemic to hit Armadillo. Because in Undead Nightmare, everyone turns into a zombie, remember? Although it was caused by that green mask, it doesn't necessarily mean the strange man had nothing to do with it.
And in Undead Nightmare, the four horsemen are referenced as well.
I might be interpreting to much here. But if you ask me, all of this is just a reference to the Bible.
@@cedricrickdelsol9767 Undead Nightmare is not canon. My theory is that the Strange Man apeared in Blackwater before the massacre, because of the many deaths that would happen during the heist.
@@cedricrickdelsol9767 Makes sense. The coming apocalypse could be the Great war as well.
@@cedricrickdelsol9767 when someone said he saw a figure of a guy with a black suit and a big hat that allways disappeared , he said he felt something biblical and he said he was never a religious man . That also might support you theory
Bruh leave him he's just a chemistry and painter trying to get his salary and not starve. Also, he Lucky gets 3 shots missed and has a Lot of informants. And ofc he has a light mental disorder, so he doesn't get scared by the shots.
The 3 shots from the revolver and the 3 graves intrigued me. After all these years, these games still amaze me. Don't know how Rockstar would manage without Dan.
Trust me buddy, they’ll manage
Wonder if john didn't fire, he, abigail, and uncle, would've survived longer
He tried shooting a fourth time but the revolver jammed becuase that bullet represented jack and he wasnt suppose to die soon
Could you imagine if the strange man encountered Arthur and prevented his future death but had some consequences based on your honour that would be truly splendid like a secret ending
Old soul 138 or that’s why’s Arthur had to die, so that John could live to redeem himself you killing Dutch and Jack killing Ross. Thus why the Strange man came to take Johns soul essentially.
Arthur didn't meet the Strange Man, but Bill did. And the Strange Man talked to him about Arthur. It's a camp little encounter that you have with Bill and he says something like: "Hey, Arthur! I met a stranger in the swamps, seemed to know all about you... ALL about YOU..." And Arthur replies something like "yeah whatever" and doesn't seem to believe Bill. The place where Bill saw and talked to The Strange Man in the swamps is probably Bayou Nwa, near his shack. That is a bit creepy if you think about it
@@alinpetrescu2309 isn't that about the guy can potentially rape arthur in the swamps?
@@breadgeorge_ I guess that is a way of seeing it but I'm sure Bill mentions "Bayou" in that encounter. I could be mistaken. Either way, I still believe he is talking about an apparition of the Strange Man
@@alinpetrescu2309 nope it's sonny the rapist not strange man.
This game is insane, it can quickly turn into a horror game if it wanted to.
Seriously, The swamp area is super spooky
Still waiting for a Undead DLC
Duhh but everybody knows that the Strange man is just Trelawny getting a brand new name in rdr2
Walking into the adler pig farm at night after you've gotten rid of the two siblings, Jesus it's terrifying
@@libertyisland6950 for story mode or online?
*truly living up to your name...*
So unfair that Arthur didn’t get his own Strange Man mission arc 😢
Franklin got his own Bigfoot side mission
tf?
the fact that Strange Man says "This is a fine spot." to John meaning that he and 2 other people will die on THAT spot is terrifying
Yeah, at the end john and abigail will be buried there
Technically they were buried there, they didn't die there
"The water is black with venom" talks about Tuberculosis, Micah always calls Arthur, black Lungs, with tuberculosis, you have water in the lungs, and the venom is the Tuberculosis itself
It means too, that the calm of the gang (the water) is infected by the venom (Micah Bell the traitor) since the "BLACKWATER" incident, that was Micah's idea by the way
kantermush I think its the cholera in armadillo, it is a disease thats mostly transmitters through tainted water.
Plus, the mission where you kill Micah is called “American Venom”.
@@iwillpunchyouruglyass yeah I like this explanation better
Tuberculosis doesn't give you water on the lung i don't think
Or how Micah is always called a snake. And some snakes have venom.
Basically Strange man is Gaunter O’dimm of RDR. He even has a mirror
Master Mirror walks the Old West in his black suit and big top hat.
Loves to grant people's wishes but not how they want them granted.
Ah, i see you have a great taste in gaming.
@@izmirs. who would he be, if the truly good characters in gaming stayed away from him?
@@seanisgone5413 im just saying that it was a great game
You realize that 3 years have passed since the release of this game ... And there are still so many mysteries inside that we can't even imagine! This story about this strange man intrigued me a lot also by his way of doing and predicting the future with enigmatic phrases ... Truly a masterpiece! Thanks also to Strange Man for explaining this story in a great way!
⏩️Two years
Kinda felt like “the water is black with venom” meant that they were snake bitten in a way on the Blackwater job and from that point everything systematically began to rot from the inside out.
I didn't even think about that. Do you consider yourself wise?
I mean it is believed that the Black Water Massacre was a trap, probably set by a SNAKE, cough cough Micah
@@kden2925 Nah Micah was a rat after Pinkerton picked him up after Guarma, I think the reason why the heist failed because In Arthur’s journal it said Dutch wanted to buy some land in Blackwater but got spotted by a lawman so that lawman reported it to their boss, and then the Pinkertons set the ferry trap and ambushed the gang forcing them to ditch the money and run. And yes I know about the newspaper piece about Dutch’s bounty Micah has in his camp, probably thought about turning Dutch in but he realized he can make more than that doing heists.
@@e3ng682 True, true
Maybe it’s mean that when dutch killed the girl he started to rot and go crazy and becoming a killer
Instead of john being watched I felt like I was being watched.
BooE Ok that is creepy
Dutch Van der Linde it's not creepy because you have always have a plan and I bet one of you plan is to make this not creepy.
Because this character breaks the 4th wall!
@@Jone952 can someone explain me what 4th wall in this vid mean? Sorry im a idiot
@@jazzyhoe4372 Yeah it's when the character understands that he's a character in a play/movie/game. On stage there are 3 walls, the 4th is open so the audience to see. Breaking the 4th wall is expressing that the character in the play can see the audience and is aware of them
im just sad no one had appreciated uncle. the old man went out protecting the last of his family. God rest your drunken soul.
Thats what edgar ross wants you to think, in truth it was the LUMBAGO who took poor uncle
Yeah guy can actually bloody ride too that mission in Chapter 3 where you go to rob Cornwall's wagon!
Don't know if I was having a off day but I was like "Slow down Uncle!"
@@JackRabbit002 *well he is known as the one shot kid after all*
Not related to the horse skills, but forgive me I have lumbago
@@JackRabbit002 uncle is red dead harlow
“The water runs black with venom” sounds like it could refer to a tainted pool. The pool being the gang in RDR2 and venom being Micah, the traitorous snake (venom from snakes). The last mission where Micah is the focal point, is called Venom, which seems more like a pseudonym for Micah himself.
Blackwater reference
overcomplicated tbf. The common nickname for Micah is a rat, since well, he is a rat. Venom in regards to Micah is never mentioned, so it owuld not make sense, the Blackwater thing is more realistic
@@gots0359
I disagree
The last mission is called american venom, referring to Micah.
I think too that it's a reference to micah and the game's whole story than john's journey or whatever the video said.
Imagine if they make a rdr1 remake and when John tells strange man “what is your name?” , strange man responds “...GAVIN”
And you'll hear a man in the distance yelling "Gavin"
They are busy with making a remake at the moment
@@RandoMorals where tf did you hear that?
@@gloomysubtopewdiepie7019 search it up, its actually happenning lol
SyntaxWarrior apparently it’s fake news, I just had a look and all the articles say it was a hoax
I love how the answer to the Strange Man mystery was given to us in RDR1 but we never paid enough attention to it. 🎩💀 It's details like this, that leave me shocked at how RDR2 did not win Game Of The Year.
Because the awards didn't know about it too 😅
Those stupid award shows are rigged
@@JackieG8991 all they knew about was this game is about outlaws they didn’t know allllllllll these details I don’t think a single person can ever finish this game 😂
@@JackieG8991 Well, the winner was God of war and RDR2 barely reach to be part of that year.
I played both games and I can say that I liked better GOW, this year wasnt a rid, either of them deserved the Goty
@@JackieG8991 Both deserve it well. People have their own preference and opinions, GoW wins it because many people probably like it more because it has been out in the Era of Ps2. So, the fan of the game probably REALLY big.
“Dutch’s Plan: Revealed and Explained (Red Dead Redemption 2)”
*proceeds to play brief 10 second video of Dutch yelling “Faith!”
-.- M8
"Make a lot of noise, make a lot of money, and get the hell out of here!"
Arthur: Whats your plan Dutch ?
Dutch:....... M O N E Y
StepKickKing “A BOAT”
StepKickKing TaHiTi!
The strange man in RDR1 is indeed strange and unkillable.
In RDR2 he is creepy in that cabin like you are seeing a ghost. And you might confuse him with Trelawny
2:23 Replaying the game made me realize that the quote "I gave everything for art and I learned too much and nothing at all" is actually referring to Evelyn Miller and how all that knowledge helped him realize that all his life was meaningless, Jhons says it in his notes.
Reminds me of the book of ecclesiastes, you know it?
Come again?
@@alexm7627yes I do, it was the wise king who in pursuit of the world forgot God. He tried everything and found that everything was “hevel”, like chasing the wind.
This actually scared the shit out of me on my first playthrough, I was low honor and I liked to cause mayhem in saint denis so I always ran into here to hide out my bounty, and I noticed the painting slowly changing, If i visited one more time I would of had the complete painting and him in the mirror
@Chidori457 😂
It's either "WOULD'VE" (shorthand way of writing/typing "would have", hence the "ve" at the end of "have"), or "WOULD HAVE", NOT "would of".
Writing/typing "would of" in any sentence is grammatically incorrect. Get it right, idiot.
@@BennyGoId "Get it right, idiot. 🤓"
@@Griv3836 Look at your username. You don't know the difference in meaning and spelling between "your" and "you're", so instead, you have to spell it "ur". It shows everyone you're a primitive that uses primal language. Good job, dumbass.
It has nothing to do with being a "nerd". Using proper grammar and spelling means you're educated, and YOU are the OPPOSITE of "educated".
@@BennyGoId "It shows everyone you're a primitive that uses primal language 🤓"
Okay now this is gaming!
Fizhy, you are a good guy for not stealing this man’s video, on the other hand bossftw..
One talk one silent both good
OMG FIZHY
@@sukiratgrewal bro actually fizhy made a video like this 2 years ago .
Now this is podracing!
The fact that you just figure all this stuff out is incredible
“Careful son, a man with no nose is coming for you” the blind man says something like this to Arthur.
There is definitely more to this....
Daniel Hover He’s done a video on that, I’ll link it. That part just refers the grim reaper
Daniel Hover ruclips.net/video/AukHGzOipPU/видео.html
omg its voldemort
@@protectev IKR
The quote is “do not sleep deeply, for a man with no nose is coming for you” Or something very similar, the man with no nose is Death. The stereotypical skeleton Death. Blind Man Cassidy repeatedly predicts Arthur’s death, telling him his death will also be his saving
I think the reason John thinks he has seen the strange man before could be when he got shot in the begining of rdr1 and almost died
That’s quite a good thought to be honest, maybe the reason John didn’t die then and was saved was because the strange man wasn’t satisfied with John yet, kinda like how the pinkertons only killed John only after he had satisfied their needs with killing the rest of the gang.
@JBryan314 since everyone played rdr1 first, and those two things were optional, your comment can be proves wrong
JBryan314 if you understood that rockstar wouldnt plan THAT FAR, then youd understand you are wrong and you should quit trying to justify the comment... John nearly died, Strange Man is immortal, most lire believe Strange Man is death or god and gave john a second chance in life, giving why john remembers him but not quite... you say if you understood canon but i mean do you understand it? I mean most of the fanbase agree or would agree that Strange Man is god/death and gave him a chance meaning John saw him briefly before being “resurrected” by him and also yes both of those pictures/paintings of Strange Man you could find in free roam is optional and if it was actually the reason john remembers the face then there would be a special interaction with it.. otherwise its an easter egg...
@JBryan314 i mean that rockstar wouldnt plan ahead like that
@JBryan314 he makes more sense than you
the strange man is so powerful he literally defies how revolvers work and caused a jam in order to hint at the deaths
That part made me wonder if everyone would have survived if John had never fired a shot.
I don’t really think the gun jams. I think John simply just stopped shooting after seeing 3 bullets not do what 1 bullet usually does to people
Contrary to popular belief revolvers can actually mulfunction
@@dirckthedork-knight1201 its incredibly rare but can happen.
@@severinhedge3893 you just described firearm malfunctions in general.
A pity we did not get a conversation between Arthur and Strange Man.
I think that u understood one of his phrases in a different way. Hear me out: "I Gave Everything for art, and I learned too much and nothing at all". The thing is, here's the only comma in any of his phrases. So I think, ART stands for ARTHUR. If u read it like this, it becomes a short story of John Marston's life in RDR 1. He gave everything for revenge, and that's how he died. So there are two short stories of Main characters in the RDR universe. From snow to cave (Arthur's), I gave everything for Arthur, I learned too much and nothing at all ( John)
Yeah I thought that as well, the learned too much and nothing at all is a reference to the games central theme being revenge is a fools game. John learned to run and not look back from Arthur, but ultimately learned nothing at all because he chooses to get revenge on Micah. This starts the chain of events that leads to his and his family’s deaths
Nice analysis
For snow ( beginning playing as Arthur ) to cave ( Ending "Arthur's death" ). Ok now make sense.
@9year old
Damm that’s pretty good
No but possible yes. Isn't it?
Strange Man: “I don’t have a game, John.”
John: YoU EAt BAbieS
No, *YoU eAT bAbIes!*
We eat BERRIES!!!! AND MUSHROOMS YOU FOOL!!!!!
Exactly, the game (RDR) is Johns game, and strange man doesn't have one.
(that was just a joke)
I dont get it
I'd also add that Strange Man's behavior is cold, no emotions, no reactions to death threats (even though he can't die), he's just as cold as death is.
i wonder why hes called strange man and not anything else
@@darthvader2763 Yeah the strange man is actually based off Mark twains book "the mysterious stranger" in which Tom Sawyer meets satan who is dressed all fancy much like this and ask Tom a bunch of moral questions about life and reality
@@two-bearshigh-fiving9293 and the guy in the Tom Sawyer book is based off a rumour in the late 1800's that the devil used to roam on the Earth dresses in a formal fashion, a description meeting strange man
I honestly wish the strange man had quests in rdr2 as well, he’s the most intriguing character
He also says in RDR1 "You know John, I admire you. I hope my son turns out to be just like you. You kill people so easily." which further supports the Grim Reaper theory I think
I wonder did he also met people like otis miller or josiah blackwater who are directly or indirectly responsible for deaths of 100 or maybe 1000 people
Idk obviously this means he's jacks father u can tell by the top hat
Lol NOW I never thought about that lol, I am now completely convinced.
Ain't gonna lie I feel safer visiting his shack during the day time XD
who doesnt that place is creepy af
@@abdallahabri5285 if I didn't hear the music in the video, I'd probably go at night but that'll all I'll be thinking about now
@@odini5881 there's no music in game
@@capybara9521 I'm talking about this music in the video
@@abdallahabri5285 Especially when he appears in the mirror. But Rockstar did him wrong, they should have made him stand completely still, instead of moving around....
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Old dead meme
My Vices stop 😔✋
@@tahitiboah4612 OH SHIT
@tahiti boi OH SHIT
Too much content damn
The "but he also doesn't know what to make of it because he sees millions of people's playthrough" gave me some goosebumps as if the one from just watching your videos isnt enough
I just wanted to mention: him being the Grim Reaper does also explain to me, why his painted picture evolves during the game. Its unclear at the beginning, but later on, when Arthur becomes sick the painting gets clearer until the finale. Death comes nearer and nearer to Arthur and reveals itself.
Brilliant explanation in the video. Btw: I have watched a couple of your RDR2-videos recently and I have to say your style of editing, the cuts, the timing and usage of music is so good and works perfectly. Beside the core information its just entertaining to watch them, because of this clever editing. Keep it up.
Holy shit
I still don't think the Strange Man is the Reaper. Death only has one job: collect the souls of the living once their time is up. Why would Death care about the choices people made in life when it all leads to the same conclusion?
@@beavers1978 good point.
@@beavers1978 reapers cause death so someone else can have life
@@beavers1978 "serial killer" (Grim Reaper)
Seems fitting. I mean, he's an accountant of the sorts, who's able to mark the spot of John's grave site.
Satan seems like an option, but he's dead in a tree in Pleasance.
Watching this in the middle of the night in a dark room is quite the experience😂
Thank god im not alone in here.
Fucking same
Looooool same
Same dude, I dont like it
Yeah its uneasy af especially at 3am
When he says,this is a fine spot. Its the same spot as the graves
@Ethan Rhodes i didn't catch that
@@Mrshinykoopa dumbass
@@hamidharoon3550 you guys are very cold and relentless
@@Mrshinykoopa welcome to the gamers world bro. Make one mistake and you're fucked. Kinda sad
@just a name Elder Futhark aka Viking runes, mate.
this is the best RDR2 content out there... no annoying voiceovers and amazing edits. thank you.
This just shows how much detail is put in to rdr2.
I’m 😱 scared
Its incredible how much details you can miss even when you have been playing rdr since the first game. Great video.
Hey dude, MrBoss is using your content again. Report him to team RUclips m'dude.
Thanks for letting me know. He didn’t use any of my footage, though, so I can’t report him. He’s stealing from everyone, so that’s not surprising.
That sucks. The guy's a Lowlife. Hope he gets what's coming to him one day.
I was subscribe to mrbossftw
Now no i'm not
@@bamboo4578 I agree completely and YT should do something to people like him who feed of smaller yet better quality channels
Let's just spam "thief" on that video if we can't report him
The Strange Man is like the G-Man from Half-Life
You don't know who or what he is
You don't know his intentions
You don't know where he came from
But he still there, watching you, and he knows who you are, he knows your actions and he knows where you will be.
Plot twist: he’s also the narrator for undead nightmare
Really?
jon do that would be super fitting tho especially with his greatest coming line
" He's a man ready for anything. . .
Almost everything. .
MWAHAHAHAHA! "
That could be true
Never thought I would say this, but Rockstar finally introduced a character that I like more than John Marston.
And his name is Jim Milton.
I also like that Rip Van Winkle guy.
pelado você realmente está pelado?
I like Tacitus Kilgore
@@tata-bs6ve sim
DAMN XF
"The water is black with venom."
For me, the first thing that came to mind was Butcher Creek and the poisoned water supply... That whole ordeal might be more curse related, though, with the pentagram under the house and such.
Holy shit, you are right
I think an indian guy poisoned butcher creeks water supply with led
Yeah butcher creek isn’t related that much to strange man at all you find out through the main story why the water is poisonous from the mining company
@@richanec2854 Yes. An indian shaman was hired by a mining company to poison their water and scare the villagers.
FOR me. I thought it was Dutch's betrayal cuz DUTCH was normal until micha took the chance .. back then dutch was like water can reflect also change due to any substance added or matter came to see through(reflect)..micha was the venom and turned dutch to venom ... to result the downfall all of the gang
That line "this is a fine spot. See you cowboy" gives me chill after knowing what that spot is going to be.
I always like to think that John remembers Arthur when I’m playing rdr1
I also like to think that it pains him too much to talk to anyone about it
And that Jack has many found memories of Arthur, possibly some stories that John told him
@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 I like this theory since jack wants to become a writer (and if you believe GTA V) he did since you can see red dead redemption by J. Marston on Michaels or Franklin's books
@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 This is actually the case. Some dialogue I got in the epilogue was Jack asking about Arthur, and Abigail commenting on how John doesn't like to talk about it. I can't remember exactly what they say, but I'm sure you could find it somewhere in RUclips.
Arthur was an idea for RDR2, therefore he’s not once hinted or mentioned I RDR1
"tell me your name or I won't be responsible for my actions"
"Oh, but you will"
- foreshadowing????
I- in- indeed
01:15
He’s just standing there....MENACINGLY
Underrated
I wonder how many people ACTUALLY got this reference lol
@@adamccorey what’s the reference ?
@@jourmomma1000 Spongebob.... episode where he's an out of control hall monitor lol
@@adamccorey I knew it was familiar thx 😊
The strange man is such a disturbing character but easily one of the coolest things in RDR and RDR2
*Goes into ARMADILLO’s General Store for a second, walks out without buying anything.*
*Store owner: You’ll regret not buying from me.*
*John dies few years later*
Best way to improve your business
13:01 the painting on the left is the view when you first meet the strange man on the cliff in RDR1
Holy shit you’re right
To the strange man: Would you cure Arthur sickness if I gave you Dutch’s soul?
Dutch's soul isn't worth Arthur's life.
Give him michas
operation pay day you right
It makes sense to give Micah's because in the low honor ending, Arthur is executed by Micah
micah's soul doesn't worth a bat's wing
13:30. It may also refer to Butcher's Creek, where there's an actual Pentagram, where Strange Man may have been summoned and now he walks the land.
Everyone gangsta till strange man uploads a video called I know you
When the painting is complete, the top hat on the rack, on the left side when facing the painting is gone
yikes!
I came across this cabin my first play through, and I had no idea the picture would change every time. I only went in there once and just assumed it was some random painters cabin. Apparently there’s a lot of stuff I overlook in these games lol
Lmao I used to kidnap people and execute them in that cabin without even knowing that it was the strange mans cabin
@@bootybouncinblood3390 Lol were u sacrificing them to the strange man
@@bootybouncinblood3390 that’s brilliant 😂
@@bootybouncinblood3390 And if you take a picture of the cabin it says "serial killer". How ironic.
The fact there are multiple supernatural underlying tones tones to the world and how they are so cleverly implemented and fleshed out gives the overall world a type of realism and spice that really makes for memorable moments
"The water is black with venom."
The water is black - Blackwater
Venom - poison that slowly kills
This indicates the start of RDR2, the Blackwater ferry job, that's when the gang started slowly dying.
Interesting point, I also think it is intresting that the last mission of the story is named "American Venom". It begs the question: what is this venom?
Very smart observations, i’d say both make sense. If it’s a reference to american venom, it means John “poisoned” himself by going after Micah as this is the reason why the pinkertons found him, which eventually results in his own death
@@xchaoztheory9987
One thing that I just realised that all major enemies of van der Linde gang dies in connection with water.
Angelo Bronte gets drowned
Leviticus Cornwall gets shot and then slips into the water
Andrew Milton is killed in a house on a pier
Edgar Ross is killed by Jack and slips into the San Luis river.
Also part of the gang is shipwrecked.
@@henrik3291 if John didn’t kill Micah he would’ve lived too so he got bit by the same snake that bit Arthur but then killed it and later the venom killed him so in the end... the snake won
I always thought venom=money.. isn’t that what started all this?
I just wanna say that I LOVE your channel and the quality of your videos! I love how you delve into the mysteries of Rockstar Games’ pieces and how you don’t say a word yet your videos are so entertaining. Much love and hope this channel gets more recognition!
-That guy who’s Emperor
Oh, so that explains why Strange Man says "I hope so, I seem to know you" when John asks "Do I know you ?"
Death knows John because he is surrounded by it, but John does not know Death because he is alive himself.
And Death looks familiar to John because he has seen and inflicted it many times before, but until he dies, he will never *know* it
I just started playing this game a couple weeks ago. I absolutely am hooked. I love these videos, simply because having an understanding of what has/will happen deepens the experience. I play to get my moneys worth, so spoilers are ok with me. Becoming immersed in the fantasy of gaming eases the burden of real life. Kudos to the poster of this video and kudos to all the other posters that create videos like this. Spectacular work!
The style you make your videos make me think you know about the time when everybody was looking for Bigfoot in San Andreas and made videos about it with X-Files Soundtrack
"Oh, but you will, you will be responsible."
Seems like Strange Man was indeed right, John was responsible for the 3 gunshots resulting his death, his wife's and Uncle's
God, the editing in this is so good, it gives me chills. I come re-watch this just for that alone.
I remember stumbling upon that shack and being very confused. I quickly left, as I assumed it was part of some mission I didn't have yet and didn't want to spoil it.
Never went back, didn't know what it was.
I love how if you don’t see any of this, you still play a roll in all of it yourself. We all have to walk that long walk and when we all get to the end when times up and the man..the strange man meets us all to guide us over..just as john and Herbert and several others have met him in the game..in his sunday best..
To anyone wondering why death himself would say “you’ve forgotten about a lot more important people than me” he means that in johns adventures he’s daring and brave and doesn’t think about death. I’m pretty sure not once does John worry about dying in rdr1’s story.
"Im an accountant" Accountants balances both sides, Death balances life and death.
I got that to like when he says “ oh they will judge you” like his giving him one last chance of redemption
@@jackj9816 "They will judge you" although is a foreshadow of what he knows will happen, means he is not there to judge, just to collect.
Or as they say - only two things in life are certain: Death and Taxes.
Then strange man may be a god
Would not the keeping tally of someone’s bad deeds be an accounting as well? All the strange man’s tasks in RD1 dealt with morality, death is impartial, it doesn’t care about good or bad, it just is and happens to everyone, but you know who does care about those things? The Devil. That’s literally the purpose of hell and it’s keeper, this is also supported by the fact that Herbert Moon cut a deal with him, famously in folklore people cut deals with the devil, not death. Calling him the grim reaper isn’t looking at the evidence provided and is also much less interesting than what he actually is
I’ve always thought John, Abigail and Uncle would have went on living had John not fired at the strange man. That John meeting him was his chance at redemption and he blew it by shooting at him so he and his family paid for it. But I never made the three shots correlation until now, makes me think that even more now. He’s some kind of entity, God, demon, grim reaper, not of this world or flesh and blood.
When the guy at the camp says "sometimes this figure appears in the distance" I've heard that a few times. Has anyone tried to hang out in Armadillo and see if the Strange Man actually appears in the distance? I mean with it constantly being brought up you'd think that would be a clue to check it out?
I would also be curious if someone did this
I'm sure someone has already tried. I doubt he's there, but I *really* wish...
Did you try it ?
@@scope7685 yeah I tried it in different locations of Armadillo and waited forever so either it's not an easter egg and he doesn't appear anywhere other than the cabin, or I'm looking in the wrong place at the wrong time
@@MrBlack252 yea maybe there are diffrenet times he apear and we just need to find another clue that may help us know wich time
I love how when the strange man tells john he will be responsible for his actions and then says "this is a fine spot," they're standing where john gets buried
The blind man also have a quote about the Strange Man. He says that he comes from another world
"Help a blind man"
here you go feller
yOu sHaLL ReCeiVE
"Two strangers seek thee. One from this world. Perhaps one from another. One brings hatred, not so sure what the other brings."
Listen, maybe the rdr timeline is deeper than we thought. Maybe it isn’t suppose to happen in the real world. Maybe he’s from our world, knowing about everything. Because he played over everything. After all, he isn’t that important of a character.Maybe he symbolizes the player who, can choose to do all this or not. He can play as Arthur and complete the story but, he also can simply put the game aside and nothing will happen.
I don’t know if this has been pointed out but the message on the wall about “giving everything up for art and learning too much while nothing at all” might reference the in game writer Evelyn Miller?
In the epilogue one of the newspapers says he pretty much lost his mind and disappeared after running off by himself, I could be wrong and I did simplify it, it’s just a thought.
Yours and fizhy's content is absolutely great unlike MrbossFTW, keep up the good work my man 🙌🏻
Couldn't agree more, the two best RDR lore channels in youtube.
MrBossFTW is just a clickbait, time wasting shitty channel.
I’ve been watching fizhy since 2016 since I’m a assassins creed fan, and I’m glad to say his content has gotten so much better since rdr2 was released.
If it weren't for mrbossFTW I wouldn't know this channel
Vincent Morgan shut up
@@vincentmorgan900 yeah I'm aware that mrbossftw steals content from this channel
R* writers are really talented to come up with these stories, also this video literally gave me goose bumps
The player who analyzed all this, his place is in an analysis center ! excellent sense of conclusion
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Khalid Pic 👌
It's most likely not just 1 person
The plot around in this character is amazing and difficult to understand on your own. Thank you for making this video. I can't imagine how many hours you have spent to make this video. The only think that i can say is .thank you🙏