Red Dead Redemption Theories That Could Be True
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2023
- In this riveting video, we challenge conventional perceptions of Red Dead Redemption, spotlighting the hidden depths and unexplored theories that may reshape your understanding of the game.
Join us as we peel back the layers of intrigue surrounding Abigail Marston, Pearson, Jack's parentage, Abigail's secret visits, and the enigmatic Strange Man. Each theory is a key to unlocking the untold mysteries of the Wild West.
I know I accidentally said Arthur was born in 1963. Sorry I meant 1863
Don't worry. I mix the 1800s and 1900s too
Sex.
In 2023, if it doesn't come true in a couple of months it's not a conspiracy theory.
That would make Arthur 61 years old today. Or 161 years old take your pick : )
The best conspiracy theory I've heard is that the Skinner Brothers are (or rather were supposed to be originally) the remnants of the Native Americans kept at Fort Riggs.
It would be cool to have a hostile tribe that attacks you in the game but it is the 21st century sooooo
@@playhousefilmsofficialStupid liberals would cry
Its makes sense why they would have decided against that though due to the really poor representation of native americans in media
@playhousefilmsofficial That’s wrong, RDR2 is set in 1899 and 1907 in the epilogue, which is in the 19th and 20th century respectively.
Does no one know what conspiracy means
Pearson probably was comfortable with having a picture of the gang on his wall and saying his name because he wasn’t wanted for any crimes, and didn’t participate in robberies.
It's also a good Way of Merchandising and Advertisment. Think of Billy the Kid- Although an Outlaw and Murderer he became an Idol of the Wild West. Heck, true Crime Shows are THE Thing currently so the Fascination with Outlaws, Gangsters and Crooks never dies out. Jim "Boy" Calloway probably had a Bounty on his Head too.
Failure to report a crime and just being in a gang could get you hanged
fun fact about the strange man, the shots John fires signifies him, abigail, and uncle. the 4th jamming meant jack gets to live.
i don’t think that’s a definite fact bro
That implies Abigail died because of their criminal ways though. Didn't she die of illness?
Wow, that’s an interesting way of seeing it
@@saint5550In a game like red dead where Rockstar puts so much thought into little details it’s not so crazy to think that. I don’t know if it was confirmed or not, but a little digging could get you an answer instead of just saying “I don’t think it’s a fact bro” like even you don’t know so why do you care? 😂 you either care or you don’t make up your mind
@Bacxaber It was never really mentioned how she died so it's posible
Sorry, but the “Jack looks nothing like John, therefore he is not his father.” is embarassing at this point and shows how many people did not even play the first game, when completing unfinished side quests with Jack, he gets told he looks so much like his father or a man they used to know.
Just because he has a stache style like Javier, it doesnt mean they look alike. 😂
Ikr literally all that's different about Jack is the mustache. His long hair literally looks the same as John's in 1899 just slight browner.
He's like 18 or 19 in the epilogue so his beard might not have fully developed anyway. When i was that age i barely had a beard now i almost have a full one.
Also john in 1899 looks exactly like that. Give him the same mustache and you have jack.
People don’t realise that most young boys resemble their mother more than there father, especially if the father has facial hair
Plus the timeline doesn't add up. Abigail would have been pregnant with Jack when John left.
Bro I hate the Javier is jacks father theory so much. Jack was born before Javier even entered the gang it makes no sense
Jack looks alot like John, especially in the first RDR, especially the squinted eyes, wide nose, and overall expression
I also kinda agree. It’s just better for the video if I have some more evidence that could be true since he does kinda resemble Javier
@@BetterCallSahlyhe doesn’t its just the facial hair, in which i do gotta say he jack probably simply just had it done like that, nothing in his model points him to dutch javier or arthur, all points to abby and john
@@BetterCallSahlyget rid of his facial hair and he looks exactly like John specially in his promo art
@@BetterCallSahlyJavier joined the gang after jack was born
All characters in RDR1 also tell Jack he looks a lot like John.
i dont think abigail cheated, i think that's when she got johns gift
Oo maybe
@TheUnitAce read its not hard
I like how the comments from the gang members hinting about Bill’s sexuality aren’t necessarily discriminatory. He would have already faced that in the military so his friends just making jokes is a nice way to make you forget they’re outlaws. Whether on purpose or not, the writing in this game continues to impress over 5 years later.
Javier isn't the father, in the picture with pearson javier isn't in it and abagail is holding baby jack. He joined in 1895 and thats when jack was born.
My favorite under-the-radar theory is that Mary Linton's much younger "brother" Jamie is actually her and Arthur's illegitimate son. It would explain so much about why her father disdains the boy and despises Arthur, and why she's always so aloof and weird around Arthur despite the fact they clearly still have deep feelings for each other. She also treats him much more like a son than a big sister, calling him "my dear boy" which is a weird thing for a sister to say to a brother. Not to mention that Jamie physically looks quite a bit more like Arthur than Mary's father.
My personal theory with the strange man is that John was supposed to die in the mountain, feast3d on by wolves, but Arthur with his unyi3lding loyalty changed Fate. He gave John a chance at Redemption and kept him from the grasp of The Strange Man. It would explain the moral games and why he woild act diferente as Jimmy. He owns John but not Arthur
He got red dead redemption
I came across some very interesting dialog right before the mission where Sean dies. I came up from the tracks and was just close enough to hear a conversation between Micah and Bill. It was something about Bill telling Micah how nice he smelled. Michael responds something I don't remember and Bill says "that's not what you were saying last night".
Strange: the dialogue i was getting was something like micah saying "you smell very good today Bill"
Bill: shut up Micah
@tuvieja3762 That was it! But then he was like why are you being mean? It ended with that's not what you were saying last night.
I heard it as well, it went something like this,
Micah: You smell nice today Bill
Bill: Shut up Micah
Micah: I’m being genuine Bill
Bill: Mhm
@@Tidalyze In Colter, Micah hits Bill, in Lemoyne, Micah hits on Bill. Things are moving fast fellers.
@@soldierofchrist4ever Bill likes it rough confirmed
Abigail making a deal with the Pinkertons could also hint towards why John was forced to do Agent Ross' dirty work in RDR1.
This is the part everyone misses. I think you’re 100% right
Yes, Abigail was with most of the gangmembers, but that was obviously well before Jack was born or even before John and her decided to get “married”. I also dont think adult Jack looks that much different than John. I dont think anyone would claim that he was Javier’s son if his beard style wasnt simular to his, because he does actually look like John if you just focus on the face.
Jack comes more after Abigail
@@warpitexis2341 What do you mean by that?
@@neutralbychoice3584 I think atleast as a kid he looks more like Abigail, with the pale skin and the big cheeks
@@warpitexis2341 I dont see the point. most kids look like the mother. Boys only get those male features later in life, that makes them look more like the father.
@@neutralbychoice3584 that's why I don't understand people saying he is not a Marston just because he doesn't look a lot like John
I think the rock carving of "J Brooks" is a reference to the Shawshank redemption, where the Character "Brooks" carves his name into a wooden beam before he kills himself
I think that the strange man and jimmy brooks are two separate entities. The Strange man is The Messenger of Death and Jimmy Brooks is The Messenger of Life. The two men, though connected, couldn't be farther from each other in everyway. The Strange man wears all black. Speaks matter of fact to John though not giving anything away he doesn't want to. Jimmy Brooks is timid, shy, and the most unintimidating looking person you could meet in this time period with a colorful ascot and plaid suit. My thinking is that the two serve a purpose give people a choice in their own way. A choice that will not only effect others but themselves as it's basically is a test to see if people who have done wrong can be redeemed and also a little bit of fun. I also think that the relationship between the two is extremely strict yet distant as it would make sense they would never communicate in person as mortals would, likely telepathically or some other type of supernatural communication. In the encounters with The Strange Man and John he gives John tasks that at the end of the day are basically seeing John's opinion of simple vices of man, and at the end of RDR1, he doesn't die when John shoots him because you can never kill death.
Yet the encounter in RDR2 with Arthur and Jimmy is much more open. Arthur (You) are in control of the situation and have all the power over this weak little man. Life is precious and fragile and can be cut short at any time, so why would the personification of life in this universe not be a skinny city slicker. The clothing of the men also are something I always seem to think about as well as though, not just the colors of what they're wearing, but what they're wearing. They both wear suits. They are BOTH accountants most likely as The Strange man tells John he is and Jimmy gives Arthur a steel pen, which wasn't the most common thing then and really only used by men who worked in those types of jobs. I think that Jimmy Brooks is a being that comes to people who have done terrible things and gives them a choice of saving a poor little man to see who they are when given every opportunity to save a life. Then allowing them to not have to suffer in theirs, never having to be tested by The Strange Man, and die in peaceful way. One hole in this theory is that Arthur dies young and in horrible ways no matter what you do to Jimmy Brooks. Even the ending where he's laying on the cliff looking at the sunrise he'd been suffering with tuberculosis for a good while and had all of his friends either die, betray him, or leave to be safe from the chaos of the gangs end. And he never meets the strange man. I think the reason that The Strange Man never comes to Arthur is for two reasons. If you kill Jimmy then it will give The Strange Man free reign over this persons fate from now on if he so wishes but in most cases like this he porbably wouldnt . The second Reason is because if you save Jimmy, he is elated not only because you saved him but because he can now grant you his blessing and not have to find another form to take. This is Jimmy giving Arthur the pen and when Arthur then says he is not a good man, he kills people, and maybe he should have killed him, this shows Jimmy he was wrong and and gave his blessing to the wrong person. This also brings up the rules between Jimmy and The Strange Man, a person who saves Jimmy Brooks can never be touched by the Strange Man only vaguely hinted at. This is why no matter the choice to save Jimmy or not, the painting will never be clear for Arthur.
I also think Jimmy's dialogue has equally cryptic and odd lines as the Strange Man's has and also comes off and even more ominous if you take this theory into account. When Jimmy says "I never saw you, not now, not never" that's him telling, I never met you and what you did for me means nothing. "I think we have an understanding" is basically Jimmy's way of wiping his hands clean and also taking away the blessing he gives to those who save him. The line "I have not one lick of sense in this old mind" is him saying I was wrong about you, and the line that always made me question the dude's motives was when he gets on his horse and makes a point to look at Arthur and say, "You have a nice day now sir" then hurrying away. This always struck me as odd as any person in that situation would probably get the hell out of there no matter what, not make a point to tell the guy who just threatened to kill you if you don't leave to have a nice day. This to me is Jimmy "breaking character" for a single moment giving us a hint at their true power through cryptic, yet more direct dialogue. In RDR1 the "Yes, many have" when John yells "Damn you" can come off as just vague shit but it really does make you think more on why this man would respond like that to the comment. The line from Jimmy Brooks of "You have a nice day now sir" is him hinting that he knows that Arthur will suffer no matter his choices. The reason then that John never sees Jimmy and only the Strange man is due to again, the rules of the two's roles. If someone saves Jimmy Brooks but is refused his blessing, then at the end of their lives the closest person to them will then be more or less free game for the strange man to have fun with with Jimmy not being allowed to show himself to John clearly if ever at all.
This is why The Strange Man more or less toys with John and gives him tasks that while they might show his morality on little things like sex and money, it doesn't test him in anything that will matter in the long run and will not make a difference in his demise. The Strange Man doesn't need to do this to John, he just enjoys it. It's probably the only thing that ever gave him any joy. He taunts John, insults John, and makes light of terrible events as if they were old friends. The fact John sees a full clear portrait of The Strange Man in the cabin and even sees him in the mirror is most likely why he remembers the face. The reason The Strange Man is being so playful and unserious with John is because he already knows what will happen and wants to have some fun before John goes at least as he was the one that Arthur unknowingly chose who take his place The whole Herbert Moon situation is also something that gives some credit to this theory as it might show the actual deals people who are to encounter The Strange Man get, and also who those people usually are. Herbert Moon is simply a biggoted shopkeeper who we find out if we loot his corpse, cut off his own daughter for marrying and having a child with a Jewish man, which is one of many group Herbert hates. in the shop above his head is a picture of The Strange Man which John comments on and Herbert says he always liked it. In the cabin with the painting obviously is the map of Armadillo with the not saying "I offered you happiness or two generations, you made your choice". This in my opinion is the kind of test and question that The Strange Man would ask to a someone whom he chooses, and I also believe that The Strange Man chooses those who are not as inherently violent as the individuals that Jimmy Brooks chooses, and are much more quiet and insidious with the evil deeds they perpetuate.
In conclusion The Strange Man and Jimmy Brooks are two entities that test those who do a lot of wrong and will either likely die soon or are at a turning point where their life can change for the better or for the worse. They are accountants. Trading and crunching the numbers that are the mortals of our world. Putting it all in order, seeing who belongs where, and with who, and who are those who break the system.
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My theory? The only people who WEREN'T rats were Arthur, John, Charles, Sadie, and Jack. I think every one of them made a deal of some sort. And maybe Mrs. Grimshaw. I think everyone gave up something during interrogation at some point, even Hosea, trying to bargain during the failed heist. But I think once they came off the mountain, most of them started looking for exits, especially once everything started going sideways. Arthur's last ride, that's where he finally understood, he could only trust maybe 3 people now. It broke his heart. He gave up and gave himself over. And once lines were literally drawn, anyone could be the "rat". Or whatever. I'm baked and full of funfetti cake.
Dutch too considering he would not be able to rat because he’s the one they’re ratting on and whom the Pinkertons want
@@malvo5190 I see what you mean. I would argue that Dutch being Dutch was ratting out the whole gang. From the Valentine shootout to the trolley. Just horrible at keeping it on the DL! So yeah, he wasn't a rat, but he didn't need to be!! He advertised!! Thanks for the perspective!
Cheers,
Eric
Don’t do Lenny and Sean like that
@@aguy2162 I don't think their potentially ratting makes them a bad person/character. They're young, Sean already knows what it's like to be in custody and is definitely gonna avoid that again and Lenny is a young black man in one of the most outwardly racist centuries of America, who knows what they'd do to him. I'd go as far as to say that both are completely justified in possibly ratting and even Arthur wouldn't hold it against them.
Strauss died in captivity without giving a word…
If you recall correctly, Pearson was never involved in any criminal activity. Having lawbreaking friends doesn’t mean you’re a lawbreaker. 8 years on, he can definitely hang a picture of the old gang because it’s pretty obvious there’s nothing they can get him for.
My theory about the strange man is that he’s Cain from the bible. In the bible it is told that if you harm Cain then you will be harmed 7 times over, John shoots him 3 times and when he dies gets shot 21 times. My theory about him being Jimmy Brooks is that it’s Cain testing Arthur to see if he’s a good person or not, hence why the poem appears about him in the strange man’s house. The picture of the strange man in the house is marked as ‘serial killer’ when you take a picture of it, this is because in the bible Cain killed Abel and technically became the first Serial Killer, Cain also has ‘the mark of Cain’ in the bible which is why John says he looks familiar. Another time where Cain was testing someone was when he theoretically tested Micah as a dog, what might prove this is that Micah (most likely) killed Cain the dog by shooting him once and was then shot by Dutch once and by John six more times (if you have a 6 round revolver) strengthening the theory as that would be seven times over.
TL:DR
There’s a lot of evidence that the strange man is Cain from the bible.
bro did his homework on this one ngl
No. You've found some parallels but it's definitely not Cain because Cain isn't some spirit or supernatural entity that has free reign to do whatever. Strange Man is definitely Death since he's following the gang and all they leave in their wake is just that. Strange Man knew where John was going to be buried. He knew the girl Dutch shot in the head and described how her eye was hanging out of her head, he even has a dead gator underneath the shack he's found at in RDR2. Death is always around when something has died or is scheduled to. This theory comes off as someone not fully understanding the Bible.
I see Strange man as a concept of devil and god, good and bad honor. The missions he gives you in rdr1 or that involves him indirectly like the Jimmy Brooks one in rdr2, Involves the player's honor and moral.
100% agree with this.
exactly
I 100% believe the Strange Man is an incarnation of death or the Grim Reaper. He tests the morals of particularly morally grey men to see where they belong in the afterlife, whether that be heaven or hell.
I don't think that Jimmy Brooks is the strange man, though it is definitely likely that he is callaborating with him in some sort of way.
Maybe
To mean it's so trelawny
He dress nicely, has a kid,knows jhon and about the ferry job
He's gotta be trlawny,whom jhon forgot abt since all the years
Maybe those shots were warning shots
@@rookie9028
Maybe. Though I feel like he would have kept his British accent.
@@odanobunagafan4964 idk, smoking and getting old ?
There are lots of details that negate each other
the gone fishing sign is there at the beginning of the game so that one's busted
I have a theory, Micah was a rat before the Pinkertons hired him… I get the strong suspicion that he was secretly working with O’driscoll’s gang. I mean he was able to quickly find the plans about a train heist… unless O’driscoll never actually planned on robbing Cornwall, but wanted Dutch to get put into Cornwell’s sights adding to another form of pressure towards the gang. I think Micah was told by O’driscoll what draws people to Dutch taking them in, but instead of making an effort to build real connections with any of the gang members it shows he never took his position very seriously.
The fact that the strange man and Jimmy act so different is absolutely not evidence that they’d be different people, maybe he just chose to pretend to act like that as Arthur’s test
abigail wouldn’t rat, not when it puts her son in danger.
My theory about Pearson is that he got arrested but since he was only associated with the gang he got a low sentence, and after that he could do whatever he wants. After you get out of prison you can talk about your crimes and display them, like those RUclips channels of the former robbers who talk about their life and react to GTA 5 missions.
I’ve always considered the strange man as the grim reaper, and bill is definitely gay
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This is so underrated for the effort that was put into this vid. Hope this blows up.
Jimmy brooks one makes no sense. the cabin still talks about him if you kill him and it makes no sense how he's Ghost if you chose to kill him. He's a ghost of sorts sure but why is it a stretch to say he knows about Jimmy if he already knows a lot of things?
I mean if Jimmy is the strange man, you can't kill him, thus you "killing him" isn't effective
People continue to misinterpret what the Pinkertons said regarding Micah. No, Micah didn't turned into a rat right when they returned from Guarma, if you go to his hideout on the mountains later on, you would find the wanted poster of Dutch and a few more paper cutouts on it. Besides, him being extremely pushy about doing the ferry job that went sideways is proof enough that he was the rat from the very beginning.
Oh you just wait for my next video where I debunk this theory of yours lol
Could it be that in exchange for freedom, the Pinkertons (or potentially the O'Driscolles, who later turned to the Pinkertons) sent Micah to infiltrate the Van der Linde gang and had him purposely stage or sabotage high-profile crimes (ex. Black Water) in order to have the gang slip up and be caught? Which is why every mission with him fails in some way (again, Blackwater, Strawberry, the bank, etc.)-not because he was reckless, greedy, or impatient, but because he had planned all along for someone to slip up and be caught. I personally don't want to think of him as some evil mastermind, and I definitely won't, but the number of missions that involve him failing miserably makes me believe a good lot of them were staged to fail.
the only reason people say jack looks like javier is because of the facial hair. his model was based off of johns, not only that NPCs will see jack and guess he’s john.
Bro this is your 2nd video ????? Felt like I was watching a pro please make more videos like this even if it’s gta I love creepy video game theories
Thank you! This video is starting to pick up a lot so I’ll definitely be making more theory stuff
The Strange mans image is in the rock formations on the way to the camp just outside on Valentine.
Really!? Where!! Citidel Rock? Caliban’s Seat?
Nice video, just liked & subbed. Hope to see more theory content
I picked up rd2 about 2 weeks ago (long overdue) and i can easily say the story it S tier. One thing that has shocked me is how current the game still is but after finishing the game i understand why. Great video
By far the best story in any video game
The strawberry doctors office always says “Gone Fishing” all the way back in chapter 2. Even in online too. So Abigail definitely wasn’t cheating
Great video. Look forward to more content and more subs
In regards to the Jimmy brooks theory. Maybe due to him being a devil he can shapeshift? And maybe the reasoning for him acting so differently around arthur is that he offers people moral choices of the extreme. And see’s how they react and adjust accordingly, maybe Jimmy brooks is just a form/persona he took on for Arthur, he says that he saw the gang in blackwater; but there’s nothing to say the gang saw him in blackwater?
Dude Blackwater is the second biggest city in the game...
@@maksymalnybul6145and your point is?
@@theinkysquid7661 Why should any of gang member recognize random guy in the big city?
@@maksymalnybul6145 thats part of the point.
I think The Strange Man is The Grim Reaper. But that’s just a thought.
The ‘gone fishing’ sign on the doctors door is more likely an homage to Red Dead Revolver. When you couldn’t enter certain businesses certain phrases would appear as an excuse for no entry, like ‘gone fishing’
Great video!
Dude this was awesome, pray tell your doing a part 2 or a commenter's edition??? Either way loved this and heres to an amazing 2024
Edit: didnt see there was a part 2 lmao
Maybe Jimmy Brooks was the identity of the Strange Man before he died 1963, and the Strange Man uses the identity of his past life to test people like Arthur.
Pearson being a rat seems possible. After all he quietly leaves the gang without anyone knowing. Some may say that he just saw that the gang's days are soon to be over but it also could happen because Pearson was afraid, that Dutch or someone else may suspect him or even find out that he indeed talked.
Abigail was really excited to *clean* the doctors office….
Damn good video, also I love Better Call Saul sm.
There's also a dialogue where Bill is very strongly complementing Micah's looks, I believe its in Rhodes, right before Sean gets shot.
I just think that the strange man is death himself. Not the devil nor satan. He knows where John will be laid to rest. An tries to give John the options of good or evil.
Wow very entertaining. Thought this vid had 100k+ views but no? Defo has the potential.
Thanks!
My theory is that Micah was a rat from the beggining, but Milton didn't knew about it. Micah wanted two things. He wanted to be rich and to survive. So he made a deal with Edgar Ross. Ross was angry at Milton because he was the main man, Ross was tired of being second-in-command. So he made deal with Micah and haven't told Milton about it. So Micah told him about Ferry in Blackwater, Saint Denis Bank robbery and locations of every gang's camp. And later, after return from Guarma, he saw that Arthur isn't as dangerous as he used to and is getting weaker. So he told Milton about everything and now Pinkertons could work even faster, because nobody had to lie about the source of informations about gang
The "gone fishing" sign on the doctor's door is an easter for red dead revolver. when you try to go open doors there's little texts like "gone fishing".
Strange man tested Jimmy Brooks...and Arthur...at the same time
Actually it might have been Micah because if you look at his old camp, you could find some evidence that he is a rat earlier on
Great editing 👍🏻
Thanks 😁
Bill Williamson being gay I can actually see probably being true and I dunno if Javier is Jack's dad I've heard that theory before. I also remember Hosea alludes to Bill being gay by saying Bill and Phil
the only plausible theory about that rat, imo, is that micah was a snitch before guarma
Im pretty sure the pinkertons finding the gang at lakay is addressed. Basically bill went around talking to everyone until eventually he found lakay and someone tipped them off
This is actually insane
here's a crazy one, what if john partially ratted?... as crazy as it sounds give it a second.
John has a reputation for bad commitment issues, left the gang twice, worked with for the government, spends large pockets of time away from the gang/game in entirety to sort out issues disassociated to the main plot.
I'm sure there are many plot holes in my argument i just thought I'd put it out their haha.
I firmly think the strange man is supposed to be an incarnation of death
4:40 fuckkkk bro thats the most creepiest thing ive seen in the game so far
I also noticed that abagail wasn't at the doctors and thought she was plowing for money
Jacks dad is John.
He doesn’t have dutch’s anything nor bills nor morgan nor anyone, The Arthur line is rockstar poking fun, And also the john oic you used is horribly modded. Look at John,jack, and abigail’s model, they’re all related father son wife. The Strange man is no one, He is simply John’s canonical imagination. Yes we all know bill is gay its been known
Rockstar confirmed that Jack is Johns so that’s entirely bunk lol
I thank that strange man is Josiah Trewlany
No. The strange man is not the devil.
He’s god.
“Damn you”
“Many have.”
I don’t think The Strange Man is The Devil or Death, I think he is God. My only evidence for this is when John says “Damn you”, he replies with “yes, many have”. “God damn you” or “God damn” is a common turn of phrase.
Yeah I caught that too and also if I’m not mistaken the strange man also predicts johns burial site indicating he knows his fate something I believe the devil can’t predict
My biggest theory is that Uncle didn’t have lumbago
i really like to think that Jimmy Brooks is some pawn used by the Strange Man to test Arthur’s morals
I think there's evidence that proves Javier joined after Abigail became either pregnant with or had jack. There's a pretty solid video by TheThirdMetorite about if Abigail was actually unfaithful or not.
My theory is the strange man is simply the god of death
He takes any form he needs to to test the morality of those that are soon dying but not with an obvious one sided morality, he takes the form of jimmy brooks to test Arthur because at that time Arthur is morally inconsistent, he then takes his preferred form as the fancy man we all know and love for John to test him as well
I especially think this is true because of the blind fortune teller in rdr2 saying theres two men coming for john, one from this world being agent ross, and one he assumes is from another world that being the mysterious stranger, the other world being whatever is beyond death
Great video, can’t wait for rdr3
Same here!
@@BetterCallSahlyits not happening.
The fact that it says gone fishing at the doctors office when abigail is supposed to be working there tells me all I need to know.
@@sunnyisabunny1479 exactly. And where is Abigail the whole time I'm playing as Arthur!??? She for the streets!
When John shot the strange man he shot 3 times before the gun jammed meaning 1 John 2 Abigail 3 Uncle and before he shot for the 4th time it jammed meaning Jack got spared
John shooting the strange man in the back is totally non cannon and makes no sense. It goes against his character and rationality all together. He would NEVER shoot a man in the back.
Dude. John only mentions the Picture behind Herbert Moon AFTER he saw the finished Painting in the hut.....
Whats the biggest question that needs to be answered?
Where TF is Gavin?!?!
Maybe I’ll talk about it in part two 👀
3:50 nope, john is buried at beecher's hope, that was the cliff near MacFarlane's ranch
Strange man has a really good theory Video about the Strange man. He concludes That the man is the death and shows many proofs
I don't know what you're talking about, adult Jack looks just like the version of John on the cover of the damn game
I think strange man is the honor system
The second rat is definitely javier in my mind, if he was consistent with how he was in rdr1. In rdr1 javier already runs behind authorities of power and John says to him ‘you left me to save yourself and expect me to care about you!’ ‘You and Dutch went crazy’ ‘how you left me was wrong’. This is literally Micah, if the games were in ordered I’m sure javier would’ve been similar to Micah in rdr2.
Jack looks nearly exactly like john. I dont get why people always say that he isnt his.
Good video
The strange man is Trewlanny
For me, I thought "the Strange man" is death given a human form.
I always thought the Strange Man was supposed to be God because of the line where John says "Damn you!" and he replies "Many have."
Imo micah was already the rat even in St denis . 1st bc ABSOLUTELY Everytime micah is part of a mission something bad happen and 2nd The way he acted during the robery wearing a FULL WHITE VISIBLE suit to get easily spotted by the pinkertoon i mean micah is way more suspicious before guarma when u look into details maybe he wasnt a rat or he played double agent but he certainly interact with pinkertons before AND after guarma. And the mystery man is probably the Death incarnation or more particuly Death incarnation by John perspective since the paint is finished only in the epilogue and it become pretty obvious when john said damn you on his future grave and he answered " many have " that make sense since death often show up too early and ppl just dont want to accept it thats . He showed up to john bc john wasnt ready to die and never showed to arthur bc arthur quickly accepted he was going to die he knew hed die as soon as the time of the wild west and the outlaws was over when john wanted to spend his days whith his family and die old
I think that the strange man was cain doomed to walk the earth for eternity
I think it says in the bible that whosever harms Cain will face a sevenfold consequence. Hence John dies some time after shooting at him.
Jimmy Brooks is actually Drake
guys in the gun store john recognised trewlany not te strange man
“Many have” leads me to believe that he’s talking about many people damning god. The Strange man is God.
I didn't know arthur was born in 1963 that's crazy
I meant to say 1863 😔
A theory John and Arthur might have some kind of spiritual connection to the strang man
I have theory what if after the trolly heist was a setup and bronte called in the Pinkerton to protect the town just when the bank heist happened Pinkerton knew about the rise due to the van Der lein gang in Saint Denis after going to brontes mansion and robbing the trolley bronte ratted them out in the start of chapter 4
Another theory is that Karen could of been a rat maybe she did a deal felt guilty about it and that's why she becomes a alcoholic
Not a bad theory. Maybe she feels guilty since she got Molly killed and Molly might’ve been pregnant 👀
She may of tried it on with Dutch and he turned and she could of did it as an act of revenge
No way Abigail was on that Mexican BBC 💀💀💀
Jimmy Brooks could be testing Arthur as a good citizen. Or maybe Arthur scared the devil himself.
So a theory i heard somewhere before that i liked is that michah isnt the rat, its really jack that ratted. Think about it. He hates the law. Everything he does is illegal no matter how you look at it. And that no one has a single clue about who the rat is. Someone would notice someone leaving at a weird time or doing something strange or not of their character. But no one thinks that milton or someone could've gotten close to them and lured jack away and asked him a few questions that he a kid wouldnt know he's telling anything he shouldn't.