Hope I was able to help you on your project! If so you should check out the sales acmetools.pxf.io/9gRWRy on Milwaukee, Dewalt, Makita, & more at ACME tools. They're a fantastic family owned company and many times have the very best tool prices out there. By using my affiliate link you're helping me keep making this content for free! If you think I earned a tip (even $5 helps!) you can send that here: www.paypal.com/paypalme/bensahlstrom Also check out one of my favorite tools on Amazon: amzn.to/4cCaqik You guys are awesome. As an affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases.
I love that your channel has blown up. You are so much easier to learn from and listen to than so many of those over the top videos. It’s no surprise other people enjoy your approach to videos and home projects.
The smartest thing you can do is to be debt-free. We don't need big fancy homes to impress someone else. We did the same thing. Bought an old bank repo home that needed a lot of repair. My only complaint is that it is too big. But it's mine and it's paid for.
I am a propane delivery driver, and sometimes help with service side of things when deliveries are slow. having a second stage regulator under a deck is a common practice, as long as a propane can semi-comfortably access that regulator for leak testing or have another second stage regulator with better access on same system. also as long ask your deck is not sealed under it. Also, your propane provider will be happy if you make a door in the floor of the deck for that regulator access, its not code requirement, but who wants to be on their belly trying to access the regulator.
Like in hydraulic systems, tape can let go of fragments and possibly flow to areas with small orifices causing flow restrictions, like in a gas valve for a furnace etc.
Ben, I learned a lot from your RUclips channel, very nice that you like to help others, with your informative DIY videos. I know what is like to move and it's no picnic and a lot of stress, my adult son is home sick for the other place yet after 2 years.
I would use brush on paint for painting gas pipe. If it was out in the open, spray will work fine, but with pipe mounted under the deck you are likely to miss many spots. Might need 2 coats with brush, but not too hard.
Started doing Plumbing when I was in my twenties for a propane company, used pipe dope mostly at first, whenever we did liquid propane we did tape and dope, towards the end of my career I used tape only, what I found was the dope after years in service would develop little pin leaks from the pressure and the tape would not. I don't think it matters either way, just my opinion, but what do I know I just retired from doing it after 35 years
Keep it simple by stating everything in psi. 1" of water column = 1/27.7 psi, so 12" of water column = 12/27.7 psi = .433 psi after your pressure regulator.
Gas is measured in water column si final delivery pressure. Every appliance I can think of is in water column. 10lb, 5lb, 2lb, then to water column. It's best to use industry standards and not go off and do your own thing.
Thank you for sharing, I hope you have the time to answer this question, 1. is that a propane manifold? 2. can a gas/propane source run any number of appliances or i sthere a finite number of appliances you can hook up to a source? thank you!
It's finite, you can call your gas company and have them help with figuring out if you have the capacity. A friend of mine is installing a gas stove, emergency furnace, and electric generator and the gas company decides what size of line you'll need based off what's all connected. Just like water with it's gallons per minute I know gas has a limitation based on pipe size and utility pressure, most utilities keep the pressure levels the same for various reasons most of fairly obvious.
It is limited, but in residential applications you rarely encounter more than what one standard regulator can provide. Maybe I'll make a video about this.
Thank you guys, That would be fantastic Benjamin, I am planning to replace my residential stove with 1. flat griddle, 2. oven, 3. a 3 burner hot plate, all commercial, and eventhough they run off the same size gas pipe, I am wondering how I would know if I am getting the amount gas they need
@@BenjaminSahlstrom Yes.... I went to another video you had on building boilers and found it. I should be ashamed of myself for not knowing. I was a maintenance guy on a low pressure boiler system for over 30 years. Haha But I will admit, ours was nothing as complex as yours. Great Video!
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Where I am, if you do any of this and don't have it inspected by the propane suppliers techs, they won't fill you if they see it. They don't really care which contractor you had do it or who else inspected it. They want to look at it, or no fill for you. Just FYI.
What happens if wife happens to be Olympic deadlift champion do you still have to make sure she can’t turn it 🤣 I alway taught natural gas lines inside homes are under crazy amount pressure Thanks for video 👍🏻
Don't use black pipe especially underground without painting it with a special grey hard coat rust preventer ! You should buy galvinized pipe instead ! Black pipe rusts really bad and over time it can rupture.
That regulator should be vented away from that window. Supposed to be 3ft from opening into building. Also in the gas field we don't use drip legs they are sediment traps. Nice work otherwise
Bubble testing new iron pipe at operating pressure is not how it's properly done Benjamin. It may be adequate, but it is not correct or to any local or national code. Teach better. To properly test new piping; 1.Isolate new piping from the rest of the system. 2.Install a high pressure gauge. 3. Pressurize with air or nitrogen to local code specs 4.Check loss after local code time specified. In my area, the standard is 15 lbs pressure held for a minimum of 24 hrs. Now if all this seems a little anal to you, remember this; 1.Sometimes black iron pipe fittings, which are cast, can be porous, leak, and not be caught with soap bubble testing. 2. A cross threaded connection may initially pass a bubble test, but with time and temperature changes, even a subtle leak is likely to be found. 3. Not pressure testing to code may void any insurance policy.
I definitely agree that's the best method. In our area, high pressure testing isn't required in all areas, but those that do are either 10psi for 24hrs or 50psi for 1hr. In this situation, and especially with outdoor gas lines, I am personally comfortable with bubble testing at operating pressure.
It seems like you overly complicate what could be an easy connection, warnings and all that... Propane has a high octane, but less energy than gasoline, & CNG is used in busses because it has a clean burn, for the most part. You see black smoke from a BBQ grill, a diesel truck, Sometimes an older gas car, but never from a Propane forklift, or a natural gas stove as that is natural energy, no pollution. I really like your videos, & have passed on many. Gas, electrical, is simple. just hooking things together in the right order. You don't put gas in a diesel tank, as that would trash the engine, or the other way around, not good, bur the engine is okay-ish...
Hope I was able to help you on your project! If so you should check out the sales acmetools.pxf.io/9gRWRy on Milwaukee, Dewalt, Makita, & more at ACME tools. They're a fantastic family owned company and many times have the very best tool prices out there. By using my affiliate link you're helping me keep making this content for free! If you think I earned a tip (even $5 helps!) you can send that here:
www.paypal.com/paypalme/bensahlstrom
Also check out one of my favorite tools on Amazon: amzn.to/4cCaqik
You guys are awesome. As an affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases.
I love that your channel has blown up. You are so much easier to learn from and listen to than so many of those over the top videos. It’s no surprise other people enjoy your approach to videos and home projects.
The smartest thing you can do is to be debt-free. We don't need big fancy homes to impress someone else. We did the same thing. Bought an old bank repo home that needed a lot of repair. My only complaint is that it is too big. But it's mine and it's paid for.
Couldn't agree more!
I am a propane delivery driver, and sometimes help with service side of things when deliveries are slow. having a second stage regulator under a deck is a common practice, as long as a propane can semi-comfortably access that regulator for leak testing or have another second stage regulator with better access on same system. also as long ask your deck is not sealed under it. Also, your propane provider will be happy if you make a door in the floor of the deck for that regulator access, its not code requirement, but who wants to be on their belly trying to access the regulator.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this!
I wouldn’t recharge with it under
Like in hydraulic systems, tape can let go of fragments and possibly flow to areas with small orifices causing flow restrictions, like in a gas valve for a furnace etc.
Ben, I learned a lot from your RUclips channel, very nice that you like to help others, with your informative DIY videos. I know what is like to move and it's no picnic and a lot of stress, my adult son is home sick for the other place yet after 2 years.
I would use brush on paint for painting gas pipe. If it was out in the open, spray will work fine, but with pipe mounted under the deck you are likely to miss many spots. Might need 2 coats with brush, but not too hard.
Nice, you mentioned using pliers backwards.
Started doing Plumbing when I was in my twenties for a propane company, used pipe dope mostly at first, whenever we did liquid propane we did tape and dope, towards the end of my career I used tape only, what I found was the dope after years in service would develop little pin leaks from the pressure and the tape would not. I don't think it matters either way, just my opinion, but what do I know I just retired from doing it after 35 years
Enjoy the fine work you do.
Keep it simple by stating everything in psi. 1" of water column = 1/27.7 psi, so 12" of water column = 12/27.7 psi = .433 psi after your pressure regulator.
Gas is measured in water column si final delivery pressure. Every appliance I can think of is in water column. 10lb, 5lb, 2lb, then to water column.
It's best to use industry standards and not go off and do your own thing.
Thank you I didn’t even think. Never used black iron outside always galvanized. Black iron isn’t as strong
Also invest in pipe wrenches. Those are will give you problems with your wrists
Nice work ! Always fun and informative . Ben thanks for the video
You bet!
Your videos are so incredibly helpful!
Thanks!
“If your wife can still turn it, it’s probably not tight enough yet” - an American unit of measurement if I ever heard one!!!
Haha so true!
😂😂😂
Thank you for sharing, I hope you have the time to answer this question, 1. is that a propane manifold? 2. can a gas/propane source run any number of appliances or i sthere a finite number of appliances you can hook up to a source? thank you!
It's finite, you can call your gas company and have them help with figuring out if you have the capacity. A friend of mine is installing a gas stove, emergency furnace, and electric generator and the gas company decides what size of line you'll need based off what's all connected.
Just like water with it's gallons per minute I know gas has a limitation based on pipe size and utility pressure, most utilities keep the pressure levels the same for various reasons most of fairly obvious.
It is limited, but in residential applications you rarely encounter more than what one standard regulator can provide. Maybe I'll make a video about this.
Thank you guys, That would be fantastic Benjamin, I am planning to replace my residential stove with 1. flat griddle, 2. oven, 3. a 3 burner hot plate, all commercial, and eventhough they run off the same size gas pipe, I am wondering how I would know if I am getting the amount gas they need
I'm curious to know what was going on at 2:37.... don't think I have ever seen this.
Great Video.
It looks like a water distribution manifold.
Hydronic boiler system I installed.
@@BenjaminSahlstrom Yes.... I went to another video you had on building boilers and found it. I should be ashamed of myself for not knowing. I was a maintenance guy on a low pressure boiler system for over 30 years. Haha But I will admit, ours was nothing as complex as yours. Great Video!
That is an in-floor heating system with several manifolds
Are you selling pliers? Buy an adjustable wrench or two.
Good video. Keep them coming.
Thanks, will do!
Here is my homemade organic pancake recipe, using just 4 ingredients for the basic recipe! Add the fruit of your choice for delicious variations! Use all organic ingredients for health reasons, long-term! 1 cup flour, I cup milk, 1 egg, 1 teaspoon baking powder (Bob’s Red Mill brand, is thee best!)! Double or triple the recipe if you need a lot more than 6 pancakes! For waffles, just separate the yolks from the egg whites and whip up the egg whites till firm, and then fold in the egg whites to the mixed up batter, and be sure to use 4 eggs for a double recipe! If you buy the Belgium waffle maker (the thick waffle maker, and use organic olive oil spray- Target’s Organic brand is a top choice), you can be considered a connoisseur of waffles, because these will be thee best waffles anywhere! Where can one buy organic homemade Belgium waffles? Nowhere! Use the organic maple syrup (Costco has the best price for a quart) and organic ghee (Costco, again) for topping, and you are eating healthy and delicious waffles or pancakes! Organic strawberries, or blueberries, from Costco, and you can make a great fruit compote topping! Love your channel, brother! Yes, we love Costco, as well! LOL
Such good info!
You bet! I'm looking forward to the group calls we're working on setting up!
Where I am, if you do any of this and don't have it inspected by the propane suppliers techs, they won't fill you if they see it. They don't really care which contractor you had do it or who else inspected it. They want to look at it, or no fill for you. Just FYI.
Interesting. Upon hookup they require an inspection, but that's about it unless you run the tank empty.
Great information to know.
What happens if wife happens to be Olympic deadlift champion do you still have to make sure she can’t turn it 🤣
I alway taught natural gas lines inside homes are under crazy amount pressure
Thanks for video 👍🏻
Don't use black pipe especially underground without painting it with a special grey hard coat rust preventer ! You should buy galvinized pipe instead ! Black pipe rusts really bad and over time it can rupture.
Do you need a permit to extend the gas line like this?
Depends on location.
Likely in many jurisdictions. Always best to check.
Depends on the jurisdiction in which you live. Some won't even let you DIY gas connections and only a licensed plumber can do it.
That regulator should be vented away from that window. Supposed to be 3ft from opening into building. Also in the gas field we don't use drip legs they are sediment traps. Nice work otherwise
How will it be for a 75 year old to turn that valve?
They turn pretty easily.
Why might you move?
Will elaborate in future videos, but essentially we are considering moving to a property with a larger acreage.
That's not a knife… THAT's a knife. 🤣🤣 referencing that pair of channel locks.
I don't think an inspector would be happy w/plastic u-clips
Could be. It's kind of hard to say on that. I don't think it would be an issue in our area, but I agree that steel strapping might be a better option.
You don’t want to build above the gas line at all
Bubble testing new iron pipe at operating pressure is not how it's properly done Benjamin. It may be adequate, but it is not correct or to any local or national code. Teach better.
To properly test new piping; 1.Isolate new piping from the rest of the system. 2.Install a high pressure gauge. 3. Pressurize with air or nitrogen to local code specs 4.Check loss after local code time specified. In my area, the standard is 15 lbs pressure held for a minimum of 24 hrs.
Now if all this seems a little anal to you, remember this; 1.Sometimes black iron pipe fittings, which are cast, can be porous, leak, and not be caught with soap bubble testing. 2. A cross threaded connection may initially pass a bubble test, but with time and temperature changes, even a subtle leak is likely to be found. 3. Not pressure testing to code may void any insurance policy.
I definitely agree that's the best method. In our area, high pressure testing isn't required in all areas, but those that do are either 10psi for 24hrs or 50psi for 1hr. In this situation, and especially with outdoor gas lines, I am personally comfortable with bubble testing at operating pressure.
Even there is a leak its not a big deal with outdoor gas nothing bad will happen.
It seems like you overly complicate what could be an easy connection, warnings and all that... Propane has a high octane, but less energy than gasoline, & CNG is used in busses because it has a clean burn, for the most part. You see black smoke from a BBQ grill, a diesel truck, Sometimes an older gas car, but never from a Propane forklift, or a natural gas stove as that is natural energy, no pollution. I really like your videos, & have passed on many. Gas, electrical, is simple. just hooking things together in the right order. You don't put gas in a diesel tank, as that would trash the engine, or the other way around, not good, bur the engine is okay-ish...
Great info, but there’s no way I would chance to do something like this, you gotta know your limits 😀
Indeed! Definitely not worth it if it's outside of what you're comfortable with.