Home heating oil is diesel fuel which is colored differently for distinction. Also, diesel gets taxed at the pump. If you have trouble getting oil you can go buy diesel at the gas station and use it in your burner. It cost $75 to get your oil lines primed again if you run out of fuel so going to the gas station is a much better option even though diesel costs a bit more.
Propane isnt $4.00 per gallon in Alaska. Propane is sold in pricing tiers. If your only cooking you will pay around $4.00, if your heating but renting a tank you will pay between $2.00 and $3.00 depending how shady your propane dealer is. If you heat and own your own tank, then you can get it a $1.49 per gallon
I run wood and natural gas. On wood heat, it's easy to have room at say, 100 degrees, then another at 74, and another at 68. It's generally impractical to get that kind of heat profile with other processes except propane. Propane is pretty awesome. --If I could do one thing different, it would be a passive solar house. ---I've wanted to do active solar, where you have a parabolic concentrator that pushes hot fluid through the floor, but the technology just isn't there yet. I mean, such a system would occupy 8-20 square yards of area. That's a difficult commitment to make. ---Heck, I thought about getting evacuated tubes and running the heated liquid through the floor. Again though, it boils (No pun intended) down to it being practical.
You forgot to add the monthly service charge for each bill. My gas company wants almost $47 per month before buying any gas. My last bill I used $3 worth of gas, and I was charged about $50. Needless to say I fired them. For the installation cost of any of the system's you just showed, you could install a solar heating system with a backup and have almost no mandatory recurring charges or splitting of wood. The only charge you would have would be for the backup system the few times a year you would need it.
Great information! Here in the Northeast oil was 2.54 a gallon vs 2.99 for propane??. Stayed with my 87% efficient Buderus oil boiler and have only used 80 gallons of oil so far. Been a mild winter so far. A wood stove is a nice supplement heat too.
We are lucky here in central Ohio where natural gas suppliers compete for the user's business. Right now I am paying $.36 cents per CCF (100 cubic feet) Last month that came to approx. $60, but taxes and delivery fees added another $32 to the bill for a total of $92. Still, I like to keep my home on the warmer side and it is $2700 square feet. If I move to rural Tennessee, I will go with a wood stove and propane for back up or electric system for each room. Our electric rates are very low too, but that could change too.
@Just think I want to hear Benjamin's thoughts on heat pumps. Particularly their reliability. Is their increased efficiency worth the extra cost. I have two HVAC central air systems on my 3,300 sq ft house that are 30 years old and need replacing. As does the stupid flex duct, that roof rats managed to chew through after they got into the crawl space. I'm looking at $20,000 easy. Am considering going with solar PV and if so, switching to a heat pump HVAC system (we have very mild temps here) from the gas furnace/central a/c we have now. That will likely cost even more.
Here is my conundrum: How do you figure your electric rate? There are two options for me. 1). Take my total Monthly bill and divide it by the kWh's used that Month, (easy peasy) OR 2). Use my kWh used times the kWH rate only and do not include the service (some call it a meter fee). I have seen both ways. My Monthly service fee is ~$51.00/mo. and if I do not include this, the cost is a lot less. I just can't wrap my head around this. Some say this is a set fee and not to include it, but to me it is part of my electric cost. In my case the difference would be from $0.107/kWh to $0.16/kWh. I would love to hear your opinions.
I'm In Northern VA, DC area and propane is about 3.99 a gal with all the fees. I need to move to Minn. But my home is 3200sqft, n my annual propane bill is about 6K a yr. My home is new, but not very efficient.
@@BenjaminSahlstrom and I just had to argue why them on a fill when temperatures hit 7 degrees. I had to pay 1400 of 2084, to get 400 more gals. I was at zero... They love to play, pay me games in the winter. I will be changing my appliances to electric in the next few months, and hopefully change my furnace to electric in the next yr or so. Then, I well get out of the propane business. I'm searching to See if natural gas can extend to my neighborhood.
Thanks for sharing. $ 6 k a year ? WoW !! I am thinking of buying a new home with a heat pump and propane back up in N. Va. Approx. 2700 Sf. What do you set your thermostat on/ Avg? I am hoping a 2 way system is rea$onable !
@@cedartreealf well, my HVAC system wasn't implemented properly. So, my 3 level home, single unit.. I set temp to about 73-75, depending on how cold it is outside. And I burn about 20gals a day. I need a more insulated home with better windows. Even the double pain does not keep the cold out.
@@akilla214u2c Thanks. We are looking at a new "Energy Star " home...supposedly WELL INSULATED ...approx. 2600 sc. That has a heat pump w/Propane B up. Propane ain't t cheap ....and the H.P. needs regular maintenace....we leaning towards sticking w/Nat. Gas. Cheaper and less hassle. Thanks again
Liked your video - I have an old farm house (about 2500 sqft) that I am mainly heating off a wood stove at the moment. We dont have natural gas, but I have been considering propane strongly....would love to see a video on installation processes and costs if possible!
Saskatchewan, Canada. Gas furnace 50% effecient in a 1,200 square foot two storey (1948 build) house runs about $75 equalized. Single level house built in the 70's 1,100 square feet run soley on electric heat has equalized payments of $500. It is vary rare around here for people to use electric heat because it is too damn expensive.
Smart decision to have 2 huge tanks of propane a backup of fuel. How large are those tanks? So you say about 550 gallons of propane is needed for 1 normal winter. What is the cost of a tank and how do you fill them.
I have one tank that is 500 gallons and one that is 1,000 gallons. The local propane company (CHS) comes out and fills the tanks once per year and only fills them to 80% of the rated capacity. Tanks typically cost about $1.50 per gallon but you can find old tanks for cheaper which is what I did.
I'm in Phoenix, AZ. You probably heard about our deadly winters :). It's 30F right now in Phoenix nighttime. Nevertheless, my monthly usage is 400-500 therms of natural gas. Two story 4000sqft house. I love cozy heat and keep my indoor temperature 82F 24/7, + pool/spa heater at 70F. It runs me $500-600 per month. I'm thinking about switching to electric heaters since electricity comes to me at no cost due to PV plant 8000kWh.
I'm switching to diesel fuel from propane. I'm tired of waiting for propane deliveries. Plus, right now, propane is $3.38 per gallon. Off road diesel fuel is $2.38 per gallon, and I can go get it myself. I don't have to rely on a supplier to deliver it. Natural gas is impractical, it would cost about $20,000 to hook up. *WARNING! RANT AHEAD!* At the time of my comment, (Tuesday, February 23, 2021) I have been waiting for a propane delivery since last Monday! We ended up running out on Friday! They say they'll be here by this coming Friday. I can't even hook up a 100# bottle because they say it's a lease violation! I'll never run propane again! Diesel fuel all the way!
Geothermal is the win when it comes to the fact that it can be used for AC and that you can be self-reliant with solar panels and battery backup. Less maintenance, you don't get billed for the flat monthly fee of use that ruins the cost savings that you would have had, much more limited fire risk and air quality risk.
Another thing I forgot, if you install solar DIY, then you can get wayyyyy below 12 cents per kilowatt. A company that I was working for was doing like 8-9 cents and they were installing it for you.
@@purplej12 Thats great and all as I have a mini split system that heats my nany suit in my house. The only problem is that its not as effective source of heat as say a propane burner would heat. It shouts out slightly cold air half the time and then warm air. The good part is it can cool the unit in the summer but just not as effective as a propane/natural gas fired unit
Fill in July when demand is low, 4 out of 5 times you will be ahead of the game for pricing. They will fill the tank to 80% but remember that volume can drop by as much as 20% if the temp drops to -40 in the winter. Personally I would go with a 1,000 gallon tank to make sure you don't need a fill in the winter. What I hate about winter fills is that propane companies can get behind and the risk of an "out of gas" call is higher.
Are you going to do a new video. Heating oil is five and six dollars now and will probably be like that next winter. Some places it will be cheaper just to buy electric space heaters.
That's silly. It's like saying if you have a gas grill you can't have a charcoal one. It may be in some code somewhere (because government), and I don't doubt the person telling you believes it..but propane furnaces burn (light on fire) and gas stoves have ignitors. If your house had filled with propane enough to explode when you lit your stove...it would also explode when the furnace kicked on, or you lit a candle, or static electricity discharge, or you plugged in an old appliance. Essentially not having a wood stove wouldn't make you any safer...you would blow up no matter what.
It really gets to me that electricity is more expensive than gas as you can PRODUCE electricy from hydro, solar, wind or Thermal for free, I know storage is a problem but Im sure they have the answer for that to.
@Rex. Georg Well, not really free. It takes property and equipment, some of it not so cheap to produce electricity from hydro, solar, wind and thermal. And that equipment has a finite life. Here in CA, hyrdo remains the cheapest but we won't be damming up any more rivers anytime soon. Natural gas fired plants are right behind that. Solar is more costly. But effectively mandated by law now. Wind is the highest cost. We have more than a few giant wind farms within 30 miles of my house.
ok....great, but, WRONG for coal. If you have a rice coal furnace, you build a coal bin, and buy coal in bulk, two ton at a time. It's much much cheaper. Coal is without a doubt, the cheapest, dirtiest solution. It might make more sense to run a coal "stove", on low, in the basement, so, it's predictable, and use a supplemental heat to warm the home from there. Then you need only go down in the basement every 3 days, if your hopper, and slag bin is large enough. Then you've got to get rid of slag. I'd take it too the dump. Twice a year.
Electric heat in my old apt winter power bill was usually 70-80 a month moved now on propane heat cost for just furnace is almost 200 a month in winter gimme electric any day
Until you get below 30 degrees and the electric can’t keep the house warm to maintain temp. If that become the case, you will use a lot more than propane in a residential house.
Your chart is not clear. 9.85 for natural gas per unit,,, propane 1.44 per unit,,, but yet on the right (per hundred) natural gas is cheaper? Number do not add up?
@@jocaingles8464 Well, most mortgages require it. If you don't obtain it and put the lender on as additional covered, they'll be happy to do it for you.............and you pay the rates they get.
I appreciate your gas electric comparison chart, but when you buy radiators for elec heating they should last a couple of decades, no annual boiler services & costs required, and no replacement boilers every 4 8 10years and faults and expensive engineer services. S0 if you needed a gas boiler every 10 year period and fittings and replacement rads, interim repairs etc., doesn't this make electricity radiators,wall or loose fitting, a 100% cheaper bet. I live in uk but I bet your boilers are no better and that quality varieties apply and problems happen with all makes.. I have found. I'm sick of natural gas costs due boilers etc requiring replacement or repairs ongoing and OTT engineer costs.I am looking for a chart that will take in overhead costs not just the gas or electric costs. Then I would have a good idea of what the costs of a gas or electric system's costs really were. ie. No good telling me how much petrol[gas in US] it costs to drive 100 miles or 300,000 without the costs of the car included, mpg, services, tax, repairs, maintenance, certainly per year. That's what I'm saying. That's what I need to know.
Your statement that coal is only 30% efficient is absolutely false. Not sure where you got your info?? (Sierra club maybe) Coal is by far the most efficent fuel source there is. Your math is bogus.
@@od2437 That's the way I understand it - the circulating fluid accumulates heat as it travels thru the tubing underground, or it loses heat and gets colder in the summer months.
It is, but upfront costs are staggering...unless you own a backhoe and diy it. Found a guy on youtube who did his own system & still came close to $17k. Although after the sunken cost 😂🤣(crack myself up sometimes) of excavation & burying the lines it's probably similar to a standard heat pump replacement.
Check your numbers... geothermal up to 500%.... temp 8 feet into earth constant 45+F year-round. Geez. If you can afford geothermal you would go for a high efficient system with performance aka efficiency in mind. $$$$$
Home heating oil is diesel fuel which is colored differently for distinction. Also, diesel gets taxed at the pump. If you have trouble getting oil you can go buy diesel at the gas station and use it in your burner. It cost $75 to get your oil lines primed again if you run out of fuel so going to the gas station is a much better option even though diesel costs a bit more.
I would be interested to see the numbers for 2022 when in Pennsylvania it's over $4 a gallon for heating oil 😒
Can you do this again for 2022/2023. ? Propane cost have exploded!
Propane isnt $4.00 per gallon in Alaska. Propane is sold in pricing tiers. If your only cooking you will pay around $4.00, if your heating but renting a tank you will pay between $2.00 and $3.00 depending how shady your propane dealer is. If you heat and own your own tank, then you can get it a $1.49 per gallon
Hey, the time has come for SI at last! 😆
I run wood and natural gas. On wood heat, it's easy to have room at say, 100 degrees, then another at 74, and another at 68. It's generally impractical to get that kind of heat profile with other processes except propane. Propane is pretty awesome.
--If I could do one thing different, it would be a passive solar house.
---I've wanted to do active solar, where you have a parabolic concentrator that pushes hot fluid through the floor, but the technology just isn't there yet. I mean, such a system would occupy 8-20 square yards of area. That's a difficult commitment to make.
---Heck, I thought about getting evacuated tubes and running the heated liquid through the floor. Again though, it boils (No pun intended) down to it being practical.
You forgot to add the monthly service charge for each bill. My gas company wants almost $47 per month before buying any gas. My last bill I used $3 worth of gas, and I was charged about $50. Needless to say I fired them.
For the installation cost of any of the system's you just showed, you could install a solar heating system with a backup and have almost no mandatory recurring charges or splitting of wood. The only charge you would have would be for the backup system the few times a year you would need it.
Excellent points. Do you have a solar heating system? I'd love to see how that works!
WOW $4 that is a lot, I think ours is $8 I think. Since we have gas water heater we will pay that regardless what we use for heat.
John Wyman,
great time for a neat efficiency comparison we can all use!!
Thx
Mike
Great information! Here in the Northeast oil was 2.54 a gallon vs 2.99 for propane??. Stayed with my 87% efficient Buderus oil boiler and have only used 80 gallons of oil so far. Been a mild winter so far. A wood stove is a nice supplement heat too.
I wish you could included pellets in your comparison chart. Thank you
he should remake this video in a few years and update then and also add wood pellets I'm also glad that he added coal to the list.
thanks, just bought a new house and have propane now. good info!
How's your bill? Do you see a difference from your old place if you had natural gas to nown
@@KingGio71 i pay 100 a month for my home in ny for propne
@@paveldalesssandro6920 wow. Why so much?
@@KingGio71 that cheap 100 buck to heat a 1800 foot home in ny plz go find anywhere to live in ny it twice the amout
@@paveldalesssandro6920 even in the summer?
We are lucky here in central Ohio where natural gas suppliers compete for the user's business. Right now I am paying $.36 cents per CCF (100 cubic feet) Last month that came to approx. $60, but taxes and delivery fees added another $32 to the bill for a total of $92. Still, I like to keep my home on the warmer side and it is $2700 square feet. If I move to rural Tennessee, I will go with a wood stove and propane for back up or electric system for each room. Our electric rates are very low too, but that could change too.
@Just think
I want to hear Benjamin's thoughts on heat pumps. Particularly their reliability. Is their increased efficiency worth the extra cost. I have two HVAC central air systems on my 3,300 sq ft house that are 30 years old and need replacing. As does the stupid flex duct, that roof rats managed to chew through after they got into the crawl space. I'm looking at $20,000 easy. Am considering going with solar PV and if so, switching to a heat pump HVAC system (we have very mild temps here) from the gas furnace/central a/c we have now. That will likely cost even more.
Thank you for the objective view and comparison between different methods of home heating!
Here is my conundrum: How do you figure your electric rate? There are two options for me.
1). Take my total Monthly bill and divide it by the kWh's used that Month, (easy peasy)
OR
2). Use my kWh used times the kWH rate only and do not include the service (some call it a meter fee).
I have seen both ways. My Monthly service fee is ~$51.00/mo. and if I do not include this, the cost is a lot less. I just can't wrap my head around this. Some say this is a set fee and not to include it, but to me it is part of my electric cost. In my case the difference would be from $0.107/kWh to $0.16/kWh. I would love to hear your opinions.
this was very helpful, I was trying to decide which to go with and you have helped me so much, thank you!
I'm In Northern VA, DC area and propane is about 3.99 a gal with all the fees. I need to move to Minn.
But my home is 3200sqft, n my annual propane bill is about 6K a yr. My home is new, but not very efficient.
Wow. Hard to believe that prices are that different! Thanks for sharing!
@@BenjaminSahlstrom and I just had to argue why them on a fill when temperatures hit 7 degrees. I had to pay 1400 of 2084, to get 400 more gals. I was at zero... They love to play, pay me games in the winter.
I will be changing my appliances to electric in the next few months, and hopefully change my furnace to electric in the next yr or so.
Then, I well get out of the propane business. I'm searching to See if natural gas can extend to my neighborhood.
Thanks for sharing. $ 6 k a year ? WoW !! I am thinking of buying a new home with a heat pump and propane back up in N. Va. Approx. 2700 Sf. What do you set your thermostat on/ Avg? I am hoping a 2 way system is rea$onable !
@@cedartreealf well, my HVAC system wasn't implemented properly. So, my 3 level home, single unit.. I set temp to about 73-75, depending on how cold it is outside.
And I burn about 20gals a day. I need a more insulated home with better windows. Even the double pain does not keep the cold out.
@@akilla214u2c
Thanks. We are looking at a new "Energy Star " home...supposedly WELL INSULATED ...approx. 2600 sc. That has a heat pump w/Propane B up.
Propane ain't t cheap ....and the H.P. needs regular maintenace....we leaning towards sticking w/Nat. Gas.
Cheaper and less hassle.
Thanks again
Liked your video - I have an old farm house (about 2500 sqft) that I am mainly heating off a wood stove at the moment. We dont have natural gas, but I have been considering propane strongly....would love to see a video on installation processes and costs if possible!
Saskatchewan, Canada.
Gas furnace 50% effecient in a 1,200 square foot two storey (1948 build) house runs about $75 equalized.
Single level house built in the 70's 1,100 square feet run soley on electric heat has equalized payments of $500.
It is vary rare around here for people to use electric heat because it is too damn expensive.
Live in ny pay 100 month to heat my whole 1800 house a d buit in 1800 and use propane
@paveldalesssandro6920 so what's your point?
What is equalized payment?
@patrickkelly8095 Instead of having huge winter bills ($800 a month) they are averaged out so they are the same each month ($120 every month).
@@mr.nonamanadus4463thank you. So they’re just amortizing the the heating bill over the year.
Smart decision to have 2 huge tanks of propane a backup of fuel. How large are those tanks? So you say about 550 gallons of propane is needed for 1 normal winter. What is the cost of a tank and how do you fill them.
I have one tank that is 500 gallons and one that is 1,000 gallons. The local propane company (CHS) comes out and fills the tanks once per year and only fills them to 80% of the rated capacity. Tanks typically cost about $1.50 per gallon but you can find old tanks for cheaper which is what I did.
I'm in Phoenix, AZ. You probably heard about our deadly winters :). It's 30F right now in Phoenix nighttime. Nevertheless, my monthly usage is 400-500 therms of natural gas. Two story 4000sqft house. I love cozy heat and keep my indoor temperature 82F 24/7, + pool/spa heater at 70F. It runs me $500-600 per month. I'm thinking about switching to electric heaters since electricity comes to me at no cost due to PV plant 8000kWh.
Well done! Good information.
I'm switching to diesel fuel from propane. I'm tired of waiting for propane deliveries. Plus, right now, propane is $3.38 per gallon. Off road diesel fuel is $2.38 per gallon, and I can go get it myself. I don't have to rely on a supplier to deliver it. Natural gas is impractical, it would cost about $20,000 to hook up.
*WARNING! RANT AHEAD!*
At the time of my comment, (Tuesday, February 23, 2021) I have been waiting for a propane delivery since last Monday! We ended up running out on Friday! They say they'll be here by this coming Friday. I can't even hook up a 100# bottle because they say it's a lease violation! I'll never run propane again! Diesel fuel all the way!
Thank you. Nice work 😎
Can you do this again with 2024 standards
Geothermal is the win when it comes to the fact that it can be used for AC and that you can be self-reliant with solar panels and battery backup. Less maintenance, you don't get billed for the flat monthly fee of use that ruins the cost savings that you would have had, much more limited fire risk and air quality risk.
Also forgot that 300% efficiency is the low end! It is 300-600% efficient.
Another thing I forgot, if you install solar DIY, then you can get wayyyyy below 12 cents per kilowatt. A company that I was working for was doing like 8-9 cents and they were installing it for you.
@@purplej12 Thats great and all as I have a mini split system that heats my nany suit in my house. The only problem is that its not as effective source of heat as say a propane burner would heat. It shouts out slightly cold air half the time and then warm air. The good part is it can cool the unit in the summer but just not as effective as a propane/natural gas fired unit
Best to buy propane in the summer or watch the prices? What should I know when the guy fills my propane tank? How do I keep from getting ripped off?
Fill in July when demand is low, 4 out of 5 times you will be ahead of the game for pricing. They will fill the tank to 80% but remember that volume can drop by as much as 20% if the temp drops to -40 in the winter. Personally I would go with a 1,000 gallon tank to make sure you don't need a fill in the winter. What I hate about winter fills is that propane companies can get behind and the risk of an "out of gas" call is higher.
Excellent!
Thanks!
Are you going to do a new video. Heating oil is five and six dollars now and will probably be like that next winter. Some places it will be cheaper just to buy electric space heaters.
It's 2022. An update would be interesting.
Can i have a propane furnace if i also have a woodburning stove? People here say its too dangerous.
That's silly. It's like saying if you have a gas grill you can't have a charcoal one. It may be in some code somewhere (because government), and I don't doubt the person telling you believes it..but propane furnaces burn (light on fire) and gas stoves have ignitors. If your house had filled with propane enough to explode when you lit your stove...it would also explode when the furnace kicked on, or you lit a candle, or static electricity discharge, or you plugged in an old appliance. Essentially not having a wood stove wouldn't make you any safer...you would blow up no matter what.
It really gets to me that electricity is more expensive than gas as you can PRODUCE electricy from hydro, solar, wind or Thermal for free, I know storage is a problem but Im sure they have the answer for that to.
@Rex. Georg
Well, not really free. It takes property and equipment, some of it not so cheap to produce electricity from hydro, solar, wind and thermal. And that equipment has a finite life.
Here in CA, hyrdo remains the cheapest but we won't be damming up any more rivers anytime soon. Natural gas fired plants are right behind that. Solar is more costly. But effectively mandated by law now. Wind is the highest cost. We have more than a few giant wind farms within 30 miles of my house.
Great answer Fred .
A five dollars four inch dia. magnafine glass works great (with your camera) for words on a page that no one can see well. Just saying !
ok....great, but, WRONG for coal. If you have a rice coal furnace, you build a coal bin, and buy coal in bulk, two ton at a time. It's much much cheaper. Coal is without a doubt, the cheapest, dirtiest solution. It might make more sense to run a coal "stove", on low, in the basement, so, it's predictable, and use a supplemental heat to warm the home from there. Then you need only go down in the basement every 3 days, if your hopper, and slag bin is large enough. Then you've got to get rid of slag. I'd take it too the dump. Twice a year.
Thanks for sharing!
The only difference between diesel and heating oil is they put pink dye in heating oil
Wood is more like $150 now and Propane is $2.50 :'D.
Electric heat in my old apt winter power bill was usually 70-80 a month moved now on propane heat cost for just furnace is almost 200 a month in winter gimme electric any day
Until you get below 30 degrees and the electric can’t keep the house warm to maintain temp. If that become the case, you will use a lot more than propane in a residential house.
Dude this is the south lol all winter u may see 5 days below 30 rest are 40-50+ .i think if a real winter ever hit theyd freak
don't forget your year's supply worth of food stashed.... you know, just in case.... (only half kidding)
Haha, yes! I'm working towards that! ;)
But how do you guys sleep in peace Knowing there is a small percentage oil can leak and propane can go boom
👌🏻
Your chart is not clear. 9.85 for natural gas per unit,,, propane 1.44 per unit,,, but yet on the right (per hundred) natural gas is cheaper? Number do not add up?
What about pellet stoves there very cheap a Lot cheaper then propane I no that for sure
Make sure you insurance provider will cover a wood burning stove or fireplace and if they do much higher premiums.
Shop for insurance. Have a wood stove and found a cheaper policy that even came and inspected property and stove.
Who needs insurance? Save the money instead. If you need it, you’ll have it, if not, you’ll have the money
@@jocaingles8464
Well, most mortgages require it. If you don't obtain it and put the lender on as additional covered, they'll be happy to do it for you.............and you pay the rates they get.
I appreciate your gas electric comparison chart, but when you buy radiators for elec heating they should last a couple of decades, no annual boiler services & costs required, and no replacement boilers every 4 8 10years and faults and expensive engineer services. S0 if you needed a gas boiler every 10 year period and fittings and replacement rads, interim repairs etc., doesn't this make electricity radiators,wall or loose fitting, a 100% cheaper bet. I live in uk but I bet your boilers are no better and that quality varieties apply and problems happen with all makes.. I have found.
I'm sick of natural gas costs due boilers etc requiring replacement or repairs ongoing and OTT engineer costs.I am looking for a chart that will take in overhead costs not just the gas or electric costs. Then I would have a good idea of what the costs of a gas or electric system's costs really were. ie. No good telling me how much petrol[gas in US] it costs to drive 100 miles or 300,000 without the costs of the car included, mpg, services, tax, repairs, maintenance, certainly per year. That's what I'm saying. That's what I need to know.
Your statement that coal is only 30% efficient is absolutely false. Not sure where you got your info?? (Sierra club maybe) Coal is by far the most efficent fuel source there is. Your math is bogus.
No kerosene 😩
I can fill my propane tanks when its cheap and then kick back with my feet up.
Have extra money? Buy another talk and then fill it.
Pretty sure “geothermal” is going to be cheaper than the air source heat pump so this seems misleading
Does that work in colder temperatures? I wonder how it is so efficient
@@od2437 Because the underground temp at a certain depth is more constant than the air temp. Cooler in summer but warmer in winter.
@@quantanglement so it gets heat from underground?
@@od2437 That's the way I understand it - the circulating fluid accumulates heat as it travels thru the tubing underground, or it loses heat and gets colder in the summer months.
It is, but upfront costs are staggering...unless you own a backhoe and diy it. Found a guy on youtube who did his own system & still came close to $17k.
Although after the sunken cost 😂🤣(crack myself up sometimes) of excavation & burying the lines it's probably similar to a standard heat pump replacement.
Check your numbers... geothermal up to 500%.... temp 8 feet into earth constant 45+F year-round. Geez. If you can afford geothermal you would go for a high efficient system with performance aka efficiency in mind. $$$$$
Lol
Sure, but what's the average?
Fml
Solar, Wind, Water Pretend You Live on a Space Ship 🚀🤗
In regards to power, how would water work on a space ship?
CO2 emission should also be compared in such comparison 🌎 There is a cost in the long term 😏
And people are advocating coal. SMH