Father of 'Rust' armorer defends daughter after fatal on-set shooting l GMA
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
- Weapons specialist and veteran Hollywood armorer Thell Reed said his daughter, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, had "been raised around gun safety since she was a little girl."
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Bruh you didn’t train your daughter. She half assed her job and someone paid the price with their life.
Damn right, if he sticks up for her incompetence, then that says more about him... Total shitfight. If he gives her the thumbs up, then in my mind you're an incompetent moron.
Exactly 😮
I've been watching the trial, she knows nothing.
She was also doing drugs I can’t believe she was trusted for this job
@@thinking1085It's all very strange, the cavalier attitude from the ammo supplier Kenney, the obnoxious behaviour from Baldwin and the absolute total and complete lack of education on gun handling from Hannah whose father did this for decades. It's so weird.
Guess he forgot to teach her that guns and drugs dont mix.
And that whole G U N safety thing too
she had ZERO muzzle discipline and a was rainbow trainwreck of a person, she is not someone who should be tasked with handling guns
He's an enabler. He pulled strings to get her jobs she wasnt ready to do. She sent a text asking for live ammunition for an antique gun, and someone says he knew she had live rounds on set. People were seriously injured and all this girl could do was whine about losing her career like a self-centered child. She knew she blew it. Then she blamed Alec for not paying attention to her training and now shes trying to claim the witness who told on her "sabotaged" her. I havent heard that defense in a long time. Her dad got her a high powered lawyer so she can evade responsibility. Im guessing its not the first time hes protected her from having to face consequences.
She kept rounds in her damn pockets, she had no business being around guns.
Course, she's a wild "colored" hair person! I run away from colored hair persons
She may have been sabotaged by the other girl however the responsibilities fall on her .. cops are doing a $girth job and are basically covering for the lil liberal
Ophelia11. It’s not an antique gun.It’s a modern remake of an 1873 Colt. How do you know she sent a text for live ammunition? If she had live rounds on set one must wonder why. There should have been none for that gun on set. You didn’t specify what gun the live rounds were for, assuming your witness is correct. How do you know the rounds were for the Colt .45 ? The witness’ observation or your own ?
@@jimtruscott5670 It was reported somewhere at the time it happened which was awhile ago. Someone else on the set said she and her friends were shooting with it off hours. She, her father and lawyer later said that witness was trying to set her up. Tjats an interview you can see here on RUclips. I never heard it was a replica, but I wasnt there. Do you know something about what happened?
You know it's one thing to defend your daughter; but to make up blame about others is really, really bad, and altogether different.
I will never understand what interviewing a relative of a suspect does to bring truth out.
I could care less what " Dad" thinks because he comes in with an inherent bias
Yes, the news reporter is just far too admiring; an opportunity to ask critical questions was lost. This is more like a p.r. puff piece than a news story.
@@patricias5122 unfortunately it seems to happen allot
It’s the MSM. Do you really expect substance or serious investigation?
You mean you COULDN'T care less?
@@MrJamberee you sure seem to know allot about MSM for a person that doesn't watch it . Do you have any thoughts of your own ? Or are you just going to spew talking points
What does he mean they should have called her in to double check the gun? It was her job to make sure it didn't have a live round to start with.
They were doing target practice that day on set and said she wasn't aware of it but if Baldwin accidentally got his hands on the gun used for target practice because the director in fact handed it to him it's not Hannah's fault. Armorers are supposed to physically hand each peice to the actor so just in that regard the set was breaking rules
@@shayharris6544 They weren’t doing target practising on set. They go to a shooting range way off set for that. What a ridiculous statement.
@@MagnusFXT Nobody on that set was an experienced shooter. When they had the chance to go shooting away from the set several did that--it was like disneyland for them. That set was incredibly unprofessional--like herding cats.
@@shayharris6544 - She admitted (as did Hall) in her first interview, that she handed the gun to Baldwin. Then she and Baldwin changed their stories later to say that Hall gave him the gun.
@@shayharris6544no sane or experienced armorer would allow target practice on a movie set. Alec Baldwin is supposed to also check the weapon even after being told it was a cold gun
If he's defending her performance on that set, he can't be much of an armorer either.
There is a video on youtube of behind the scenes at the filming of Tombstone. In that video you can see the star actor idly twirling the gun he has whilst talking to the crew.
@@Hereford1642 There was a fragment left in the barrel in that case if I remember correctly.
@@weirdmatter no, nothing happened on Tombstone. But it does demonstrate that her father tolerated bad practice on set.
You are thinking of 'The Crow'.
@@Hereford1642 You're right ✅
He’s defending his daughter you POS
no one is taking responsibility and everyone is pointing fingers.
I dont think thats the point here. Hannah was over booked on set. She wasnt the prop handler for the day of the shoot where as previous shoots she WAS the prop handler. They gave her two jobs. Prop handler and armorer. The directors of Rust must be held accountable for this mishap. They tried to squeeze profits and overlooked safety.
the "training" he had told him to not pull the trigger at someone else? what in the world is happening right now. Why would you need to be trained to know you shouldn't do that
@@alk7910 in his interview he said :I asked Halyna
What ????? Actor ask camera girl if she wants to see how he pull the hummer ?! Made up story impossible to believe
Also camera crew don’t give directions to actor but the director is
They all pretend to be friends until the SHTF then they all stab each other in the back.
@@alk7910 yes the cheapness & greed was GROSS & GROSS NEGLIGENCE so gross negligent homicide or otherwise called involuntary manslaughter minimum charge.
Sabotage or not HANNAH NEEDED TO CHECK.THATS LITERALLY HER JOB.
👍👍
Basic gun safety: never point a gun at a person.
That's Rule #1 only stupid people point guns at other people loaded or not. #1 statement : I didn't know the gun was loaded.
All this would make a great film. They could call it TRUST.
ha ha ha
😂… I see what you did there.
If she's not responsible, then what _is_ the responsibility of the armorer?
Dude, she was 23, with almost zero experience and was off posting photos on instagram sucking in her gut. There is NO DEFENSE for her. Get outta here daddy.
The father said “there was a lot of motives” then cut him off. He should’ve explained what “a lot of motives” are
yeah, that was quite an abrupt and suspicious cut.
He also needs to substantiate those allegations and provide EVIDENCE. WHICH HE DOES NOT HAVE. it's all heresay to claim sabotage.
I wish he had a RUclips channel so we could hear straight from his mouth. Unfiltered
There was a lot of upset crew members on the set. People were not getting paid properly, they were having to stay farther away from the set than they originally were told, there was a lack of safety meetings on set, and there had been several incidents involving firearms and special effects. Almost the entire camera crew walked off the set that very morning because they were fed up with working conditions. They were replaced with non-union crew members. The girl that was shot was one of only two union camera crew members that stayed on. Like he said, a lot of motives. The whole thing from the start right through the botched investigation was a complete shit show.
Exactly!!!!
@1:30 “She didn’t need anymore training. She’s got me!”
Good job, dad. You must be so proud of yourself.
The ignorance and arrogance of his remark is quintessential Hollywood.
Imagine a heart surgeon saying that about their kid who just finished med school
No 24 year old is responsible enough for this position what arrogance and disrespect. This isn't plinking at the back yard. What's most amazing to me is Baldwin doing a western.
@@KJ-xc6qs at least we know its not her fault, its a fact that she turned it over to ad with no live rounds, fact that she was told not to be in the church, fact that whatever happens to the gun after ad received it is ads responsibility, whatever happened to the gun after baldwin recieved it is baldwins responsibility
@@enjoypool4052 BALDWIN as STAR & PRODUCER is responsible for hiring "cheap labor" or $7500. for her postion vs $150k for BALDWIN'S POSITION. U GET WHAT U PAY FOR...... greed killed Halyna
Quite ridiculous to be interviewing him. Obviously he can’t be objective.
Theyre not interviewing him for objectively lol. Theyre interviewing him to know their side. Obviously that cant be objective lol
@@jomcueto980 well exactly. Not only can’t he be objective but he was not even on the set and can’t even speak to what happened.
@@johntutela5816 again, theyre not interviewing him for objectiveness. Thats not the angle. Theyre interviewing him since he’s the father of the defendant
@@jomcueto980 again what’s the relevance of him being interviewed is my point. He wasn’t on set and cannot speak to the specifics of the case. All he can do is root for his daughter.
"Objective"?? Is Baldwin being objective when he's doing outrageous interviews proclaiming his innocence?
She's responsible period. She even said on a podcast that she was nervous about the gig because she's so inexperienced.
I watched her police interview, I couldn’t believe what I was seeing, she actually pulled rounds out of her pocket. How’s that for gun safety.😳
All her fault tbf, can't say it's someone else's for hiring her really, a 10 year old could be a armourer as long as they are meticulous with checking every weapon and every bullet. That being said I wouldn't hire her to make a bloody sandwich right let alone guns like wtf, should've hired some random old geezer whos worked hard his whole life to be armourer, a older man that respects patience, the fragility of life and the impact of mistakes....
@@Bleaky1
She was probably hired specifically because she isn't an old man. There's a big push going on recently to diversify the film industry. She told the police that she was "the only female armorer in the game."
I can't really think of any other reason why they'd hire a 24 year old with very little prior experience to work on a film like that.
She was nervous about the Nicolas cage movie.
All I had to see was the purple and yellow hair and it explained everything
This would be the 1st time a parent just blindly listened to their kid in the history of humanity.
Baldwin is NOT to blame, actors are not supposed to empty the guns they are given to check the rounds, the armorer is the only one that's supposed to do that.
Baldwin is a PRODUCER on the film. He IS to blame. He should have NEVER even had his finger on the trigger during that rehearsal
@@edwinmalachy Have you ever watched a western movie with a lot of shooting, they all shoot at each other with blanks, the stupid female bozo loaded the prop gun with live bullets............Baldwin was following the directors instructions.
Every father see's their daughter in a better light. After watching the trial it's clear she was inexperienced, negligent and not ready for that kind of responsibility. He's not able to be objective here and I don't blame him.
she was a hot mess . !!.watched the trial and it was only a matter of time with hannah in charge of some one getting shot .. watching her in the police interviews was painful .I would not put hannah in charge of my dog
The person responsible is the one who’s supposed to take care of the guns and make sure the guns are properly taken care of
“But…but…but…my daughter is highly qualified. This twenty something young lady had been on hundreds…um…tens…um…a couple movie sets. Oh wait, this was one of her first movie sets.”
And the previous one she was yelled at by Nicholas Cage cause there was a couple firings that went off without notice and he flipped out.
Nepotism kills as do low IQ American cucks.
@WAFFEN COLLIDER
Thanks for sharing your opinion...moron.
Not to mention she had other safety violations on others sets.
😂😂
I say lock everyone up, the finger pointing is crazy.
I was just thinking how a woman is deceased and not one person on set is to blame. Everybody is absolving themselves of responsibility. I guess the end result will be to just put the gun itself on trial, lock it up, and call it day.
she's only 24. The comments she made on camera to the police are damning. I don't see how that can be defended. Her daddy can get her hired, but he can't fix this for her.
Dude…live rounds on set! Need I say more? No excuses for live rounds being on set.
Hannah loaded the revolver, so her dad is saying. If she had been allowed in the church, she would have caught the live round that she loaded?
It’s funny, no one is concerned about being charged
That's because they know in the end no one will be charged.
@@mediaisevil6730 A lawyers job is to defend their client zealously. Nothing else. The truth is up to the jury to find.
Ikr it's absurd. They shld be charged with tampering with evidence too. They admit the gun used was taken out of that building/ away from the crime scene following this tragedy. Then, Hannah admitted she took the rounds out to assess them. This was an attempt at CYA ..no doubt, prior to 5-0 arriving. Later, when the officer asked where the discharged weapon was , it takes them a while to figure out who has it & where its located. Also, this young lady admits to not rechecking the weapon via rounds since 1130am.. before lunch & hrs before that scene. She said anyone had access to her cart where rounds were. Guns were locked up in a safe but rounds were in the truck, atop the cart & scattered all over the place.. including a mixed assortment of rounds in her pockets during her interview. What kind of police dept allows someone to walk through the entrance with ammo (of any kind) in their pockets. To add, it was reported that Hannah was associated with ppl planking on set. They used live rounds to aim at cans, etc. She even stated that they use 22s if they are using live rounds in her 1st interview 🤷♀️ Even if..& it's a big If. .. ..someone wanted to sabotage, after hearing how irresponsible she is & how anyone had access to her cart.. her negligence regarding safety especially, wld allow anyone to switch a round out w/o any probs. She is culpable but Alec & at least 2 others are also. My kids know gun safety & they wld be more competent in the armorer position.
@@MrRazorblade999 By releasing video evidence including the interviews during an open investigation is baffling. Then again, by sharing these thgs publicly would taint a future jury in a possible pending trial. Smh
If someone is hired through nepotism it's almost guaranteed that the most qualified person did not get the job.
Don't be upset just because your parents were losers and didn't help you get a job.
This is the way Hollywood works. It’s who you know, which is called networking. Some of the most famous people in TV, film and music are children of someone who is famous or works in the industry. Like it or not that’s the way it is.
@@gingercollier7949 You realize Hanna was the only armorer who would take the job because no other armorer was willing to take on dual duties between armorer and prop assistant?
Also, the original budget for the film included TWO armorers? One principal and one assistant?
Seth Kenney who provided the weapons and ammo turned the job down. Don’t you find that curious?
@@MultiPetercool
Seth and Sarah are dirty ...it was a inexperienced investigator.
@@kathikay8942 The Line Director responsible for payroll testified they originally budgeted for TWO armorers. FACT!
The bottom line is the armours job to have written custody of names who touched the weapon before scene and make sure the gun was safe to shoot . The truth is nobody checked the gun for live ammo before the deadly scene .
Including Alec.
Why did Hanna did not pass the gun directly to Alec? Right there the problem starts !!!
She was outside doing something else that Baldwin told her to do. This shit is on him
@@chapter11247 liar!!
Only in the USA can you kill a person due to negligence and go on TV to state how that makes you feel.
Never seen any aljazeera I’m guessing...
Really? Only in the USA ? Getting a little carried away?
God Bless America.
Stupidest thing I’ve heard 🤦♂️
Better than invading countries for centuries, stealing all their valuables, and continuing to display them in museums despite those very countries wanting their artifacts back. (Cough) Britain (cough)
I worked with weapons on small sets for years… never had any issues. This set was far beyond the budget of anything I ever worked on and I can’t fathom it going so wrong.
What movie did u worked with?
@blessed thrifty wind priestess talim
Sounds like someone just talking out their ass. Good call either way.
@@clydecash5659 lol I wanted to know what film did he worked with?
He didn’t work on any film. He’s just making it up.
I’d like to know what Reed thinks of Baldwin’s story about not pulling the trigger. Sabotage my ass. She is your daughter but people make mistakes.
WHY was she not called on the set to do her job???
Because cheep skate Baldwin had her doing two jobs for the price of one.
Baldwin is a seasoned actor, and was the producer. He should have made sure she was there, and handing him the gun. If that was proper procedure, that's what should have happened. There should have never been live ammo on the set, or a real gun.
It’s his daughters fault, it was her job to make sure Baldwin was given a safe gun
Baldwin could have also taken the time to pop the cylinder and check the rounds. It takes two seconds to do with a revolver unlike a semi automatic magazine which he would have had to remove each bullet one at a time. EVEN WITH a semi auto, I personally would have checked the gun myself. Maybe it’s just the gun nut in me, but don’t like touching someone else’s gun. I’m not familiar with this make/model or I’m not sure how worn and used certain parts have become over time.
Just a bad idea, the way these things are done.
@@clydecash5659 holy fck it takes two seconds??? You're worse than Hannah. That type of revolver requires the gun to be half cocked and then each bullet can be removed one by one. Each bullet would have to be set down and checked one by one to see if they rattle. Then, the gun needs reloaded and then the trigger has to be pulled while the hammer is set back down. It's 3-5 minutes MINIMUM. And then what, you want Alec to reload the gun?? What an udderly ridiculous idea.
@@clydecash5659 Only a madman would do what he did and feel no blame.
@no thanks
Here’s a great example: if you’ve ever gone sky diving, everyone packs their own chute. Not some “packer” or “handler” of the chutes. This is for liability reasons as well as motivation. Everyone’s lives are in their own hands. I just think that should be the case here.
Is it a pain in the ass to do? I guess? I dunno I’ve only ever used guns that I’ve loaded myself with ammunition that I’ve bought so I know EXACTLY what’s in my guns at all times.
Baldwin gets paid a lot of money, he can load his own fucking gun lol.
@@clydecash5659 not true... armorer job to do that
So why was she comepletly ignoring all of it?
Um, at 12:41 Baldwin said “ I let go of the hammer and the gun went off, I did not pull the trigger!” That tells us that if he didn’t cock the gun (all the way back) in a locking position, and he let go of the hammer before it locked...then that alone was enough to hit the firing cap and fire that gun! Personally, I believe the armorer had full responsibility of what went into that gun, whom she passed it off to (David), who then passed it off to Alec Baldwin. I’m just wondering if they can get fingerprints off the shell casing to see who all handled that live bullet! Bottom line is someone was killed and someone was injured and someone is responsible. Either way, it was murder or involuntary manslaughter. Time and forensics will tell!
1. The video now shows that on TWO previous occasions he did have his finger on the trigger and that would infer that he did have it on the trigger when he cocked the hammer.
2. The single action Colt should lock the hammer if it was pulled back as Baldwin said. The only way that the hammer would fall all the way was if his finger was on the trigger.
3. If the hammer had not been pulled all the way back and he let go of it without his finger on the trigger, the fall would not have been enough to fire the pistol.
4. Hannah said that she checked the rounds for the 'ring' of the ball bearings.
5. Hannah had to clean the chamber on the sixth round because the guns kept getting dirt on them. That sixth round was probably the live one and it came from the new box of dummies.
6. The round that killed Halyna was a live round and had two indelible pen marks on the case - exactly where the drill holes should be. A live round that had not be processed into a dummy.
7. Hannah said (in interview) that some of the dummies had (percussion) caps at the end even though they would not work. So you would not be able to tell which were live or dummies solely from the caps.
8. Hannah said in the interview that no live rounds were allowed on set.
9. The set owners stipulated in their rules that no live rounds were allowed on the set.
10. There was a rumor (not authenticated or attributed) that there was 'plinking' on set. Hannah was not aware of this. It could be that the 'Plinkers' were the source of the live rounds and that they left them on the set, or failed to remove them from the gun after using it for shooting beer cans.
11. The only target practice that Hannah arranged was at an off-site range.
12. Hannah was the last one to handle the round before the Police took possession of the gun and rounds. She asked for the gun after the incident and someone handed it to her. She checked the chambers.
13. Sarah Zachry checked the new box of dummies and said that there were live rounds in there too.
14. There were EIGHT live rounds on the set. Two in the notches on Baldwin's holster. The one in the gun that killed Halyna and more in the new box of dummies.
Bottom Line - Hannah Reed, Dave Halls and Alec Baldwin should all be indited for involuntary manslaughter for the negligence. Additionally, from Baldwin's interview you can prove culpable Recklessness leading to manslaughter which means that he should be indited for Murder 2 - being the person who knew the risk but pulled the trigger regardless.
There was no intent. Baldwin's reaction shows that he was clearly shocked at being told that Halyna died. However, his Negligence and Recklessness are enough to convict on Murder 2.
The reason the gun went off when he let go of the hammer is because he pulled the trigger first and yes that was an accident he probably didn't realize he did it but when he pulled the gun out he pulled the trigger that's why it went off when he let the hammer go we all know those two things must happen in order for it to shoot and it was proven that there was nothing wrong with the gun so it didn't just go off he made those two things happened he pulled the trigger and then he let the hammer go
@@WOTArtyNoobs Sarah tampered with evidence she admitted she through away bullets in a panic after the incident because she was scared of repercussions
tlims 1974a with that gun if you did not have your finger on the trigger and you pulled the hammer right back before being fully cocked then removed your thumb from the hammer the hammer will not fire the gun at all.
@@robertbutler8004 but Baldwin pulled the trigger first then pulled the hammer back that's why when he let the hammer go it went off. Yes he lied and said he never pulled the trigger but now that we've seen the footage he was definitely lying he had his finger on the trigger the whole time
This girl is responsible period. She said herself , she was nervous b/c she felt so inexperienced.
Hannah wasn't even in the church and didn't hand Baldwin the gun. Look deeper, people.
Her father's statements/opinion haven't aged well.
Why hasn’t George Stephanopolis been called out in the media for the incredibly self-serving interview that he did for his long time Hamptons pal, Alec Baldwin?
You might as well call him out for being short.
Fawk Curios George stromboliinindianpolis
Totally babied him. Talk about rehearsal. It was disgusting
*Tammy shhh. Your words have no basic meaning of understanding and blaming journalist for your false hopes is not how your message will get across to millions. Pipe down.*
This aged well...
This is why qualified professionals are required. Policies for checks and balances. Hopefully it wasn't her father's reputation/nepotism that got her the job
Lol it's the only reason her lil antifa haircut having ass got the job
There's no doubt. That's the way their industry works.
Hannah has admitted she got the job bc of her father.
Of course it was...lol.
@@kalford4909 partly her father but also Seth Kenny. Both weapons experts vouched for her.
Just watch her interrogation by police...she's 24 and displayed typical Gen Z complete incompetence even when asked about following "protocols"...she didn't even know what the word meant! 🙄
From what I've heard the armorer is supposed to be on set whenever the firearm is being used in a scene. Why wasn't she there? Why didn't Baldwin make sure she was there? He knows the rules that were put in place after Lee was killed. This is negligence and should be used to prosecute Baldwin for his reckless attitude and use of firearms.
Baldwin sent her out of the church to do something else just prior to the shooting. That's on him.
From what I hear they also had COVID restrictions in place. So Hannah had been using that a reason to why she didn’t follow proper procedures.
Why do they add Reed to her name ? Her name is not Reed...it's her step dad and he didn't adopt her.
Did you raise her to not take cocaine, drink and smoke weed while responsible for firearms? Sorry daddy, but you're misunderstanding the gravity of this situation.
It does sound like sabotage to me. Apparently some individuals had live ammo and were target shooting during down time. If she was aware of this and did nothing, then she bears responsibility. It was reported that she was not directly on set when this happened. The fact that Baldwin and the director went on with their activities without calling her in is on them. They should not have proceeded without her.
They need evidence any allegations are true. Everyone is avoiding responsibility and that's the problem.
It’s the rule on set gun should be handed to actor only by armorer a prop master nobody else so that’s on AB a ass dir that they did against the rules
Baldwin is guilty.
I blamed Hannah and I have my doubts about her despite what her father says but I have heard many negative thing about the rest of the cast. I can see the older guys on set ignoring what the little girl says to speed up production and also can see Hannah making her self scarce on set too.
@@fromtheflightdeck252 That’s like saying it’s the driver’s fault when a wheel falls off an F1 car on its first lap. Should’ve checked them lug nuts 😉
How dare he try to excuse her negligence!!!! Someone died because of her carelessness!!! What a complete idiot
They were using live rounds in these guns to target practice near the set. The police are finding live rounds mixed with her prop ammunition on the set, She loaded the gun. How is she not responsible for any of this?
Her lawyers said the gun was unintended for two hr ? Why a who had access to and could put the live ammunition in 🤔
@@Adventure2305 Having several people access to her guns and ammunition might lead some to believe this phantom third person theory but it just shows how irresponsible she is with real fire arms. She did not properly re-check a gun that she gave several people access to before handing it off to David Halls knowing Baldwin never checks the guns himself. She has no responsibility in this really? And is she or her Lawyer saying she never loaded the gun in the first place?
"She dont need more training, she's got me.....ha-ha !"
Sabotage is not the most likely possibility. She loaded it with a live round and other live rounds were found on set. Charge her already!
Whoever hired Hannah is first at fault. Hannah's interview she said she had a headache that day. She is the type that talks so much at her job. She doesn't remember exactly who hired her. She sent in her resume and she got a call saying she's hired. During her 1st interview she seems high on something and she can't sit still. She mishandled the gun and the bullet. Her job was to protect that gun.
I can’t believe they haven’t charged her yet. Probably won’t be able to sue to the worst police detectives ever.
Sabotaged???
It’s your responsibility to intervene the sabotage! Oh my god
For me she is the reason why Helena Hutchins died and Souza got hurt.If she didn't give Baldwin's real bullet's and this wouldn't never happen to them.If she weapon specialists.Baldwin get 5 year homicide and she gets 17 years in jail
Wow he actually did an interview!
Narcissists love attention.
Live ammunition on the set! She is responsible it was her job! The gun should not have had anything in it if it was going to be fired and it was just rehearsal! She let someone other than herself handle the gun, pure laziness and negligence. It was her responsibility! That's what happens when you cut cut corners in production.
Hm.. it’s hard to argue your clear bias against her, especially when you don’t use facts to support your statement. /:
Let me ask this: Why did the director, assistant director, actor, script supervisor, and everyone in that church allow the gun practice to take place without the armorer present? How is it her responsibility when it wasn’t her gun, wasn’t her ammo, the higher ups bulldozed her, and people in the church also allowed it to happen?
@Jeff Devries
"Never point a weapon at anyone"
So John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Keanu Reeves, Gary Cooper, Gregory Peck and everyone else whose ever been in a movie having a shootout was wrong?
None of you gun experts gets it, on a Hollywood set there's an entirely different set of rules because pointing guns at people is their business.
Walk onto a movie set as an actor and take a gun an armorer gave to you and start opening loading gates and spinning cylinders or dropping mags and doing function checks and everyone around can watch you get your ass ripped off by the armorer.
Not long ago I watched an interview with a Hollywood armorer and he said the biggest pain in his ass is when some actor comes walking on a set doing those things, he's had to chew out more than one of them and explain to them that they're not on a shooting range and the weapon in their hand is his not theirs, they're not to do ANYTHING unless instructed to do it, don't check to see if it's loaded, don't do function checks, don't drop mags, don't do ANYTHING unless you're told to do it.
I'd want my money back if I went to a theater and saw a western that had a shootout where everyone was facing away from each other, that'd be the lamest shootout EVER.
@Jeff Devries
Oh so Baldwin brought his own gun from home? And didn't you say NEVER point a gun at someone? But then you're saying that there's time's on a Hollywood set it's OK to do it.
Which one is it? NEVER or when it's OK?
Quit acting like you know how things are run on a Hollywood set because you own guns, it's an entirely different world than a shooting range, and if you ever walk on a movie set as an actor and go acting like a gun expert watch how fast the set armorer embarrass you.
Agreed! I've done work before at these movie sets, handling and inspecting the props. The weapons get handled and inspected by 3 different people before it reaches the actor! On the sets, sometimes we would get yelled at for wasting too much time inspecting the weapons when everyone is in position ready to roll. Better to be safe than sorry! Obviously, that was not the case here. My condolences to the victims and their families.
It’s literally her job no round or weapon should be touched without her knowledge and anything that does happen without her knowledge is a security violation on her part for leaving weapons insecure.
This directly contradicts Alec's police interview where he is adamant that Hannah handed him the gun, not the 1ad.
Because he knew that's the way it should have happened, and he lied.
Where did the live round come from and how did it get in the gun. The armorer is responsible for loading the gun. Did she look at the bullets before she put them in the gun? Does she know the difference between a live and blank round? I am sure you can see the difference before loading the bullets.
Exactly! I'm wondering if one of the disgruntled workers who walked off the scene that day put a live round there. BUT...Since there was a live round actual bullet in the gun, IF the gun was CHECKED prior to using it, this tragedy could have been avoided! Such a sad loss of life, wife and mother ..
Hi, yes I’m aware you asked 2 years ago. Are you watching Hannah’s trial? We’re 7 days in without knowing where the live ammo came from, and Hannah didn’t really know much. We all learned from expert testimony that you can’t tell a live round from a dummy round just by looking at it.
Some times they use live rounds on movies for shooting bottles are dirt to make it look more authentic. Maybe there was a scene that involved real bullets? Maybe someone else took the gun and used it for a different scene. I donno. Someone screwed up bad though.
. She was responsible to make sure the gun had what was required for the movie set scenes. Also anyone who handled the gun should have checked physically and visually what was or was not in the gun. Alex is not telling the truth about how he handled the weapon IMO.
The other crew member Alec accidentally shot, told authorities how Alec was handling the gun. I don't think Alec is being dishonest about what happened because he has no reason to lie since it was not his job responsibility to ensure the gun props were checked, was told in front of witnesses that it was a cold gun when it was handed to him and according to the other shooting victim, he was pointing the gun at the camera doing a rehearsal.
I think the Sheriff's department needs to look into "Did anyone have a motive for murder?" Halyna Hutchins was once an investigative journalist and grew up on a Soviet Military Base. ANYBODY could have loaded that gun with a live bullet! Motives for murder, as stated by experts, are Jealousy, vengeance, and money. A thorough investigation needs to be carried out concerning this tragic case, including everyone close to Halyna. I don't believe that anything can be ruled out! Everyone is innocent until proven guilty!
I'm glad someone on that set is taking responsibility for what happened. Oh wait................
There are three clicks when you pull back the hammer on a Single Action Army. Each click prevents the firing pin from hitting the primer. The only way to override the stops is to pull the trigger. Baldwin is a liar.
yup
the issue isnt with baldwin. there weren’t supposed to be real bullets on set. unless baldwin put bullets in the gun, he didn’t have the intent to kill her.
Oh she's a great armorer, dad says. I bet the job offers in Hollywood are lining up for her to work on their sets.
Kinda contradicts her selfie 4 days before the incident with live rounds in her lap.
No one is taking responsibility
Baldwin says you don't point the gun at someone and then pull the trigger but that's exactly what he did
Who was in charge, who was the producer, who hired the underqualified armorer and prop directors? Who brought the live rounds onto the set? Who pointed a gun directly at a person and who pulled the trigger?
Someone hated someone and someone, died.
Lets face it, a lot of these people are not going to get to work in the industry again.
Baldwin is responsible for being an idiot and not knowing how to handle a gun. But Hannah is responsible for loading the gun with live ammo and keeping live ammunition on the set.
She could not possibly have done that. Not somebody that has her experience. If you had 1 hour of training on dummy rounds. And Just 1 hour of training on Live Rounds. You would not be able to make that mistake yourself. It just cannot happen. She did Not put that live round into that gun. It just can not be so. Have you ever fired a gun? She was raised around firearms from the age of a young child. She did not have the experience of being in charge of an armor's position on a movie set. But. She Knew Guns. She knows more about guns than You do. It simply could not happen. Her mind would have to be So altered as if Tripping On LSD Altered for that to be possible.
Somebody else loaded that gun with a LIVE ROUND. And it Had To Be Done Deliberately!
Nobody can do this "accidentally"
And that IDIOT Alec Baldwin held the Trigger back.
And pulled the Hammer back, deliberately, and let it SNAP forward Deliberatly. Firing the Gun.
Even Alec Baldwin is not that STUPID.
@steve youre the idiot here. How do you "hold the trigger back?" Explain that to us. Lol. You cant. Alex Baldwin is an actor by the way. He is not the armorer. He is responsible if he actually pull the trigger when it was supposed to be a prop. Either way. The fault is also with the idiot Assistant director for calling it a "cold gun" and didnt check it. He should equally be as guilty and stupid for not checking the gun. Lastly cocking the gun hammer back is the last fatal mistake. Thats almost as bad as pulling the trigger if the hammer goes off.
If you pick up a gun, point it at someone, and pull the trigger, YOU and NO one else are responsible by any deaths caused, period. You can't put that responsibility off on someone else. If you can't handle the gun safety then YOU chose to shoot the person by not taking 5 minutes to get proper safety training and learn not to point loaded guns at people and pull the trigger. It is YOUR legal obligation to not TOUCH the weapon if you can't safely handle it (a 7 year old could handle it safely with 5 minutes of training). If you had the training, then that's flat out murder because you KNEW you could kill someone when you CHOSE to pull the trigger.
The safety people are just there to help you, not take the fall when you murder someone. This isn't some complicated machine that no one can figure out how to handle safely. And if it were, then it would still be the responsibility of the operator to get the proper training. In Baldwin's case he was even more responsible as the producer of the movie who kept the armorer from doing her job by assigning her other duties on set that took her away from watching over safety because he wanted to make a cheap movie. AND he chose to operate the gun without her presence. AND he chose to receive the gun or allow someone to receive the gun from someone's hands OTHER than the armorer. Baldwin is guilty on SO many levels here.
@@alk7910 she the Armour wasn't on set..
She was outside doing another job that AB had her assigned to do....she was no where near the act in the church...
He needs to man up and say he fuked up
and yet... she is going to jail tonight.
Well this aged well………
Where did the live round come from and how did it get into the gun?
hannah is not guilty, alec is not guilty, who is guilty? But they just admitted hannah spun the chamber with 6 rounds before she gave the gun to halls, to me that means hannah loaded the gun with a live round.
If hannah knows as much as her dad (his quote) only a f00l would hire the father for gun work.
She didn't check the guns while on the set many times. The 6 rounds came from her or her step dad. May have been an accident bringing them on set, but she brought them on set, didn't check weopns, loaded the gun without checking the rounds, didn't do correct safety check. Plus she never should have loaded the weopon since it wasnt called for in the scene or left the room with her being the armorer
There are videos of Hannah on set not checking firearms before or after handing them over or them back to her.....also of her holding firearms by the barrel in an unsafe way....her being in the church wouldn't have made any difference....she was reckless and slap dash with her job which was which is inexcusable.
Baldwin's story on ABC is totally different than his story in the police interview. RED FLAGS SHOULD BE UP!
You can't shoot that gun by slapping the hammer like in the movies, UNLESS you hold the trigger.
As a father you were wrong!
He should have taught her better. Especially given his apparent misgivings as to her qualifications. Now she is learning the hard way. And two people got hurt for nothing. One of them is never going to come home at all. What a needless tragedy.
Why doesn’t she defend herself? 🧐
I could be wrong, but I think people have the right to remain silent. 🤔
@@aschmum his old lady invokes that right every time they fooook 🤣😂
She knows better than Baldwin to keep her mouth shut right now.
Because she isn't stupid like Alec bone head.
Because clever people dont do that like alec baldwin with his fake interwiev
The issue here is nt even about pulling the trigger that means we all are expecting they should ve been a live round was in d Gun.. the problem here is who put the bullet in the Gun after Anna had finished with it then handed it to her assistant them the assistant called out cold Gun... investigators should really get to the bottom of this...
there is a cop cam video where it looks like a guy takes something, (? rounds) off her cart and slips them in his pocket. I think it was Halls. This was not discussed durign the trial.
He taught her, his bad habits.
Should be ZERO lawyers involved. Just man up to your mistakes for once.
I bet this will end up just like the Brandon Lee accident. There's too many people involved with varying responsibility and no one will be charged. There will be a big settlement awarded to the victim's family and the people involved will have to live with the guilt from what they did just like the actor who fired the gun at Brandon Lee.
Unfortunately but I believe it will end up just like with lying Smollett
End of Baldwins career I hope
Remember when his family called none other then Steven Seagal. And Steven predicted that it was in fact a gunshot. And the next day the fam called Steven and praised him as Brandon was in fact shot by a real gun. Freaking NUTZ that Sensi Seagal is
The difference is Michael Maesse took it to heart, spent the rest of his life and genuinely was sorry for what had happened, and expressed that. He wasn’t on GMA defending himself like Alec Baldwin, even though it was the armorers fault. The crew from the crow weren’t immediately on TV with lawyers.
She IS responsible. That was her job. And not it is her fault and must be prosecuted.
Of course her father would defend her…. What father wouldn’t?
A film armorer on television showed how to verify "cold gun" with a revolver. Verify that the rounds are dummies, load the weapon, pull the trigger 7 times to ensure that every round is struck by the firing pin. He also said that that was an industry standard.
Baldwin - "I let go of the hammer and the gun goes off". Um, the hammer is what fires the bullet. Granted, the hammer will not drop unless the trigger is pulled, but it's the hammer that sets the round off. Why would you pull the hammer back if you were not going to pull the trigger? You were just going to leave the hammer pulled back for all of eternity? Eventually, you have to pull the trigger even to return the hammer back to the original position.
NONE of this excuses the fact that you pointed a gun at someone without verifying it was safe to do so (which unlike some suggest takes maybe 5 minutes of training in order to make a 7 year old an expert on making sure the gun is safe - John Shnieder [Dukes of Hazzard] has a video teaching this safety so you can see for yourself how easy it is to determine the gun is empty).
What you (Alec) are suggesting is that the gun was broken and the trigger was always in the "pulled" position (rather than you yourself pulling the trigger before pulling the hammer which would cause it to intentionally fire). If that's the case, the police would discover that pretty much immediately. But since the police haven't said it's a broken gun, you're a liar. You pulled the trigger. Maybe you've convinced YOURSELF you didn't pull the trigger, but it is impossible for the gun to go off without pulling the trigger unless there is something SERIOUSLY mechanically wrong with the gun and again that would be very easy for the police to determine because the gun is not going to "heal itself" afterwards.
Just more lies and attempts to shift blame from Alec Baldwin. Nothing new there.
I am no fan of Alec but the one in charge of props is definitely the one responsible for this mess. Alec's involvement has more to do with him being the head of the whole thing but to say that he is a killer is reaching.
Not a reach.Baldwin should have checked regardless of what he was told!!! Its customary to check a firearm even when checked right in front of you just incase something is logged in barrel you CANT SEE. Sad she lost her life to negligent actions by multiple people.
If i handed you a firearm and told you it is safe and unloaded, you point it at someone and pull the trigger. Gun goes off killing someone. Who is ultimately the one responsible for the killing?
One of the rules of gun handling is not taking the word of anyone. An armorer would have needed to show Baldwin each cylinder of the gun before Baldwin points then fires it at someone. Baldwin is to blame.
@robert hayes and thats wherw you are wrong. Hannah didnt do her job ya dummy. Someone died. Gee i wonder what happened? Since you dont know jack stop talking.
@@alk7910 Speaking of dummies; your ignorance of gun handling rules, including movie set protocol, you've proven to be stellar. Congratulations! By the way, if you manage to pull your head out of your ... then also consider that the armorer wasn't even there.
Your hero took the word of an assistant director prior to aiming then firing an unchecked gun at a person. She's not the baby sitter for two idiots who decide to play cowboy with real guns on a set that each knew had live rounds. But Baldwin did the shooting so Halls is off the hook for that reckless action.
You have often been called the best in the business, but I guess you didn’t train her with the same skill you had. You obviously were more responsible and careful than she was. You say, “She knew what to do” Well she may have known, but she didn’t do it!!
She was not ready for this position. Did she ever shadow any veteran armorers?
to me they just hired Hanna for required-of the movie production rules. And they do what ever they want, that’s why they give a second job to Hanna. Alec is not a beginner actor, and is not the first time that he would use a gun. I think they do what ever they want and use that bullets to look more real the movie shot. Excuse my poor English.
AGREED
I've seen video of Mr. Baldwin on set drawing the weapon with his finger ON the trigger...doing what he says he was told not to do.
I think anyone who handles a firearm MUST check it. There can be no delegation or dereliction of responsibility. If a gun enters your immediate control, you MUST check its condition. Add a bunch of artists with their bureaucratic ideas about handling things they don't understand and is anyone surprised a the outcome?
:45 “Are you concerned Hannah will go to jail?”
“No. I’m not concerned about that at all”.
Today: “Oops.”
Her job her ONLY job in that position was to ensure gun safety she was more concerned with looking cool and taking pics with Guns then doing her job … SHE will be charged with involuntary manslaughter both counts and do time. Alec will too since he was a producer on the film. Any jury would be sick to say not guilty a woman DIED
And work on props at the same time. Nobody can be at two places at one time.
Reed is one of the greats not just as an armorer. Very sad to see him live out the end of his life dealing with this.
I'm more sad for the woman his daughter murdered. But you do you
@@newsnowbc1934 grow up kid
Ya so great
Hannah was reckless and unprofessional. She got the job because of her daddy and was not qualified, which cost a life.
I visited both sets and met her in MT when Nic Cage yelled at her for blowing his eardrums off. That's what happens in low budget westerns and films. You get what you pay for and it's dangerous when guns are involved. They actually thought this film was important enough to finish it back in MT, but without Hannah this time. Unacceptable.