I wish Nintendo would launch a digital collection of the Zelda Gamebooks then they could do dlc with stories like that without having to worry about story interfering with gameplay.
What I love about Legend of Zelda is that there are some subjects that are just so fascinating that no matter how many times I've seen a video discussion l NEVER get tired of seeing new takes in trying to explain it. You guys are amazing 💜
I made fan art when i was a teen about a prequel called legend of Zelda: mirrors that takes place in 2 settings 1 is you play as link from twilight father while link is a kid collins age the other is link from ocarina all grown up wearing the armor the hero shade wears so basically theres a magic that helps the hero guide links father to save link(twilight) and then in twilight princess that same magic helps the shade turn into a light wolf to prepare link (twilight) i drew items characters and mobs but would love a return to this era
@@cristiansaucedo4707 no you just experience the end of the hero of time before he becomes the hero shade and his influence on links father in twilight kinda like the hero of time is a spirit that is aiding links father by imbuing him his power and knowledge kinda like how Yugi has the pharaoh in Yu-Gi-Oh so you are getting told the what happened in 2 parts of the same timeline to help fill the gap of how this lead to this because twilight princess is my favorite game in the franchise but left a lot of questions unanswered like while the 6 sages sent ganondorf where is link how did he become the heros shade what magic binds him to the form of a wolf with magic similar to the light guardians I think because Zelda told her father of ganondorf betrayal the Royal family let link meet the light Spirits and each giving him a part of themselves so that he can be the back up plan incase the Royal family failed
@@tekkaikenmega509 Ok. So it would be the Link Between OoT and TP. Not just the 3rd Hero of Time game. Like I said, it sounds interesting. For me, I always wanted OoT to be remade, but with references to MM and TP. So, maybe after you beat the game once, Zelda gives Child Link the Hero's Shield he has in MM. Plus, maybe Child Link can use Epona, just like in MM. Also, Adult Link could defeat a whole bunch of enemies in Hyrule Field and then some knights find him and give him the (new looking) Hero's Shade armor. What do you think?
@cristiansaucedo4707 yeah the hero of time has an entire journey missing from history a game centered around the hero before he becomes the shade and the purpose of him becoming the hero shade would be so cool to explore Plus it's about time we get to play link as a full adult with a Beard
I think there's a lot left to explore with the Ocarina of Time timeline spit. It seems like there were major ramifications on either side of the outcome which ultimately led to TP and WW (and the downfall timeline). Why did Zelda truly send Link back to his childhood self?
To answer your question, Zelda explained it at the end of OoT. She wanted him to live out the seven years he lost while asleep in the Sacred Realm. So she sent him back with that in mind.
I want to say Hylia did it. To set in motion all events that lead to BOTW/TOTK. Which is suppose to be the end point of all timelines after everything else occurs.( originally)
Yes, I do believe so the dissolving of the order did result in hyrules weakening. As the saying goes, Bad times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make bad times, repeat ad nauseam. If you get rid of something good, even if it is not needed currently, you will most likely regret it later.
I searched “Zelda theory”on RUclips to find this only made 6 days ago. Everything else was from about 3 years ago. Zelda is my favorite franchise, and ever since I was a kid I loved theorizing about different things and getting myself and brothers hyped about all of this. I feel like it’s starting to fade out now though. I hope Nintendo brings it back with another classic style 3D Zelda akin to the games before BOTW.
I considered it a bit. And the first few things that come to mind are funding, and supply lines. To explain a bit here. We can infer that the invasion into Hylia by Ganondorf took years. The knights were in a very cold climate. I think the only ones able to send any kind of supplies were the Zora or the Rito, and the Rito are a big stretch as I don't know if they were in any way involved and I discount the Goro due to the extreme negative temperatures. It would've taken weeks if not more to get back up there on carts later on, and that's not even discussing possible dangers such as avalanches, snow storms, wild predators and monsters. Hypothermia would've been another as any caravan would need not only good gear, but plenty of rest stops for their horses or oxen. And I can't imagine that there were many. Then add in time delays due to needing to shovel out a road that got too much snow. The cost effectiveness just wouldn't be there. It was manageable when they were essentially headquartered there because they had the manpower to do not only do it, but travel to and fro a lot. It wouldn't have worked in any other situation at the time I think. Then add in later, once things had been more or less resolved and the Gerudo routed with Ganondorf being captured. Hylia as a nation would've been in ruins and Zelda would need to rebuild. Add that into the fact that she wouldn't have infinite money. Even with taxes, it would've strained her budget to go for any kind of enforced military for long. Would it work for a while? Yes. But the land was still healing. People still coming back, repopulating and spreading out again. Rebuilding lives and civilization. That takes generations upon generations. So, she would've had to choose. Do they continue the strong military presence, or do they cut costs as a necessary evil and rebuild? I know she would've had to cut costs and rebuild. And over time, their military dwindled. Peace more or less reigned in some way. Or the hard times left them behind and warfare became a secondary concern to their own folly. I don't know fully, but these are my thoughts so far.
In the TP manga, Ashei is a knight herself and Snowpeak Manor is her father’s old home, who was a knight as well. So it’s probably just an elite family’s fief within the order.
TP dark atmosphere makes it the best Zelda. It is OOT 2.0, making it the definitive Zelda game. They need to go back to darker/realistic zelda games after Nintendo is done with its cartoony zeldas
in the twilight pincess manga ashei said that the mansion belonged to her father. she says that she inherited it, knows about the yetis but lets them stay anyways because they're harmless. although im unsure if the manga is being considered canon? (i'm a new fan so i'm still figuring out the timelines and such ;;^^ )
Auru could quite possibly be the son of Rauru who served in the Knights of Hyrule, and/or quite even possibly trained people in his prime, while also serving as a military advisor of sorts. I dont believe Zelda in Twilight Princess could possibly be the same from Ocarina of Time, as she would have to be much older, given the fact that HoT Link now then becomes the Heroes Shade would of been dead for a really long time after the war broke out, however long that war lasted could easily been 10 years difference, along with huge changes and shifts in geographical areas. Giant chasm canyons surrounding a field, along with various bridges that would of taken years to build, and become battle damaged during the war. Link that we see as the main protagonist grew up in a distant village in the forest would certinly have to be a descendant of the former Hero of Time at some point after his death, and raised alone in Ordon Village. The village leader Bo would probably be related to Link as his step-father in someway, ensuring he's well looked after in the village, and giving him his own home. It could quite also be possible that Bo was once a former member of the Knights of Hyrule, given the fact he's got history outside of Ordon Village having wrestled with the Gorons using Iron Boots which he then passes down to Link, and his connection with Renaldo in Kakariko, which he refers to Bo as an old friend when he tells Link how to get past the Gorons to Death Mountain. There are multiple people in Ordon Village with connections to Hyrule people and the Royal Family than we may realize. Link being told early in he game by Rusl that there was a delivery to be made at Hyrule Castle, and that order would of had to of come from somewhere by messenger hawk. I think it would be interesting to find the hidden connections of the Knights of Hyrule and the people who were once involved with them. There might be hints to them in places you might not of considered, Snowpeak in itself is a mystery in itself, but should explore beyond there.
Aonuma said Twilight Princess takes place roughly 100 years after the end of Ocarina of Time, meaning Twilight Princess Zelda is most likely the granddaughter/great-granddaughter of Ocarina of Time Zelda.
4:33 What game is this cutscene from? I quit buying Nintendo consoles and games in 2014 because of moving and their region locking, so I got lost from this series.
I don't think so but I sure hope so. I get tired of seeing videos about supposed leaks of it being completed and ready to go at any moment. I'd imagine it would be a great launch title to hold Zelda lovers over until other projects come out--very similar to Lets Go Pikachu/Eevee before Sword and Shield
Too late for that after Aonuma moved on into open world/open air Zelda. Closest we'll ever get regarding the older titles are remakes for the Switch 2 and future consoles.
Who do you think Refounded the Knight order of Hyrule?
I did
ZELDA!!
princess zelda
I thought that said "refunded" at first, lol
The sheikah
I thought Twilight Princess’ greatest mystery was why it hasn’t been ported to Switch yet.
Next console probably
I thought it was why didn't Nintendo produce a sequel?
Apparently is one per generation:
Wind waker for Wii U
Skyward sword for switch
Twilight princess for ????
@@ejgeorge23but Wind Waker AND TP were on Wii U together
@gingermint1230 ah true, worst even.....
Stuff like this is why we need a third hero of time game
I need a Hyrule Warriors game that tells the story of how he died
I wish Nintendo would launch a digital collection of the Zelda Gamebooks then they could do dlc with stories like that without having to worry about story interfering with gameplay.
Unfortunately all will ever have is our imaginations
@@Bad616 And modders!
This technically is.... But yeah , more of a supporting role. 2:14
What I love about Legend of Zelda is that there are some subjects that are just so fascinating that no matter how many times I've seen a video discussion l NEVER get tired of seeing new takes in trying to explain it. You guys are amazing 💜
I really like the various theories with Snowpeak, and I'm more than happy to have some Twilight Princess content.ooking forward to the others!
Im always happy to see lil bits and sence of UndyingNephalims work throughout the Zelda videos :)
We will never get another game close to TP or OoT. Sadly Nintendo went another direction.
Good, TP was hot garbage.
I think TP should get a Capcom REmake-type treatment.
Very awesome vid, I never even connected that Auru could be a descendant.
I made fan art when i was a teen about a prequel called legend of Zelda: mirrors that takes place in 2 settings 1 is you play as link from twilight father while link is a kid collins age the other is link from ocarina all grown up wearing the armor the hero shade wears so basically theres a magic that helps the hero guide links father to save link(twilight) and then in twilight princess that same magic helps the shade turn into a light wolf to prepare link (twilight) i drew items characters and mobs but would love a return to this era
Gay
That's interesting. So the two timelines converge?
@@cristiansaucedo4707 no you just experience the end of the hero of time before he becomes the hero shade and his influence on links father in twilight kinda like the hero of time is a spirit that is aiding links father by imbuing him his power and knowledge kinda like how Yugi has the pharaoh in Yu-Gi-Oh so you are getting told the what happened in 2 parts of the same timeline to help fill the gap of how this lead to this because twilight princess is my favorite game in the franchise but left a lot of questions unanswered like while the 6 sages sent ganondorf where is link how did he become the heros shade what magic binds him to the form of a wolf with magic similar to the light guardians I think because Zelda told her father of ganondorf betrayal the Royal family let link meet the light Spirits and each giving him a part of themselves so that he can be the back up plan incase the Royal family failed
@@tekkaikenmega509 Ok. So it would be the Link Between OoT and TP. Not just the 3rd Hero of Time game. Like I said, it sounds interesting.
For me, I always wanted OoT to be remade, but with references to MM and TP. So, maybe after you beat the game once, Zelda gives Child Link the Hero's Shield he has in MM. Plus, maybe Child Link can use Epona, just like in MM.
Also, Adult Link could defeat a whole bunch of enemies in Hyrule Field and then some knights find him and give him the (new looking) Hero's Shade armor.
What do you think?
@cristiansaucedo4707 yeah the hero of time has an entire journey missing from history a game centered around the hero before he becomes the shade and the purpose of him becoming the hero shade would be so cool to explore Plus it's about time we get to play link as a full adult with a Beard
I think there's a lot left to explore with the Ocarina of Time timeline spit. It seems like there were major ramifications on either side of the outcome which ultimately led to TP and WW (and the downfall timeline). Why did Zelda truly send Link back to his childhood self?
To answer your question, Zelda explained it at the end of OoT. She wanted him to live out the seven years he lost while asleep in the Sacred Realm. So she sent him back with that in mind.
@@25Erix That's the simple answer. But I think there's something deeper behind it which has yet to be explored
I want to say Hylia did it. To set in motion all events that lead to BOTW/TOTK. Which is suppose to be the end point of all timelines after everything else occurs.( originally)
Yes, I do believe so the dissolving of the order did result in hyrules weakening. As the saying goes, Bad times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make bad times, repeat ad nauseam. If you get rid of something good, even if it is not needed currently, you will most likely regret it later.
I searched “Zelda theory”on RUclips to find this only made 6 days ago. Everything else was from about 3 years ago. Zelda is my favorite franchise, and ever since I was a kid I loved theorizing about different things and getting myself and brothers hyped about all of this. I feel like it’s starting to fade out now though. I hope Nintendo brings it back with another classic style 3D Zelda akin to the games before BOTW.
Still waiting for TP on the switch
TP and WW for me.
at this point, probably more likely that it'll be ported to whatever nintendos next console is.
Wario ware is already on there
Keep waiting
My Favorite place in my favorite Game and the best music
I have to know where u got the hyrule civil war animations!!! That looks sick
I’m gonna guess it’s from the first hyrule warriors game
@@Bigjar420 Definitely not. It's from some ancient animation project that I can't recall the name of
@@isaac_aren Hyrule Total War, I believe.
@@Elementianhero22 Ah I knew it was something like that. Didn't know it actually released as a mod tho
It’s from Hyrule Conquest/Total War by UndyingNephlim
I considered it a bit.
And the first few things that come to mind are funding, and supply lines.
To explain a bit here. We can infer that the invasion into Hylia by Ganondorf took years. The knights were in a very cold climate. I think the only ones able to send any kind of supplies were the Zora or the Rito, and the Rito are a big stretch as I don't know if they were in any way involved and I discount the Goro due to the extreme negative temperatures.
It would've taken weeks if not more to get back up there on carts later on, and that's not even discussing possible dangers such as avalanches, snow storms, wild predators and monsters. Hypothermia would've been another as any caravan would need not only good gear, but plenty of rest stops for their horses or oxen. And I can't imagine that there were many. Then add in time delays due to needing to shovel out a road that got too much snow.
The cost effectiveness just wouldn't be there. It was manageable when they were essentially headquartered there because they had the manpower to do not only do it, but travel to and fro a lot. It wouldn't have worked in any other situation at the time I think.
Then add in later, once things had been more or less resolved and the Gerudo routed with Ganondorf being captured.
Hylia as a nation would've been in ruins and Zelda would need to rebuild. Add that into the fact that she wouldn't have infinite money. Even with taxes, it would've strained her budget to go for any kind of enforced military for long. Would it work for a while? Yes. But the land was still healing. People still coming back, repopulating and spreading out again. Rebuilding lives and civilization. That takes generations upon generations.
So, she would've had to choose. Do they continue the strong military presence, or do they cut costs as a necessary evil and rebuild?
I know she would've had to cut costs and rebuild. And over time, their military dwindled. Peace more or less reigned in some way. Or the hard times left them behind and warfare became a secondary concern to their own folly.
I don't know fully, but these are my thoughts so far.
In the TP manga, Ashei is a knight herself and Snowpeak Manor is her father’s old home, who was a knight as well. So it’s probably just an elite family’s fief within the order.
I wish more people would read the Manga, its so damn good!
TP dark atmosphere makes it the best Zelda. It is OOT 2.0, making it the definitive Zelda game. They need to go back to darker/realistic zelda games after Nintendo is done with its cartoony zeldas
Ive seen these 3D renders of wars set between games (3:40) a few times in your videos now, where do they come from?
in the twilight pincess manga ashei said that the mansion belonged to her father. she says that she inherited it, knows about the yetis but lets them stay anyways because they're harmless.
although im unsure if the manga is being considered canon? (i'm a new fan so i'm still figuring out the timelines and such ;;^^ )
Is that my render in the thumbnail? Very cool! (Just do please make sure to leave my name in the description for the render though, please. Thanks!)
Will do!
@@commonwealthrealmAwesome, thank you!
I dont know but Nintendo needs to bring TP to Switch so that we may investigate!
Is there really a total war with hyrule soldiers?
Auru could quite possibly be the son of Rauru who served in the Knights of Hyrule, and/or quite even possibly trained people in his prime, while also serving as a military advisor of sorts.
I dont believe Zelda in Twilight Princess could possibly be the same from Ocarina of Time, as she would have to be much older, given the fact that HoT Link now then becomes the Heroes Shade would of been dead for a really long time after the war broke out, however long that war lasted could easily been 10 years difference, along with huge changes and shifts in geographical areas. Giant chasm canyons surrounding a field, along with various bridges that would of taken years to build, and become battle damaged during the war. Link that we see as the main protagonist grew up in a distant village in the forest would certinly have to be a descendant of the former Hero of Time at some point after his death, and raised alone in Ordon Village. The village leader Bo would probably be related to Link as his step-father in someway, ensuring he's well looked after in the village, and giving him his own home. It could quite also be possible that Bo was once a former member of the Knights of Hyrule, given the fact he's got history outside of Ordon Village having wrestled with the Gorons using Iron Boots which he then passes down to Link, and his connection with Renaldo in Kakariko, which he refers to Bo as an old friend when he tells Link how to get past the Gorons to Death Mountain. There are multiple people in Ordon Village with connections to Hyrule people and the Royal Family than we may realize. Link being told early in he game by Rusl that there was a delivery to be made at Hyrule Castle, and that order would of had to of come from somewhere by messenger hawk.
I think it would be interesting to find the hidden connections of the Knights of Hyrule and the people who were once involved with them. There might be hints to them in places you might not of considered, Snowpeak in itself is a mystery in itself, but should explore beyond there.
Aonuma said Twilight Princess takes place roughly 100 years after the end of Ocarina of Time, meaning Twilight Princess Zelda is most likely the granddaughter/great-granddaughter of Ocarina of Time Zelda.
where do you take this animations from?
I feel like we get a title video like this every 6 to 7 months. hmm...
All this
Actually does make sense
4:33 What game is this cutscene from? I quit buying Nintendo consoles and games in 2014 because of moving and their region locking, so I got lost from this series.
This isnt from any Zelda game, im sure its some kind of fan game or fan animation
Thanks.
I wonder if there's evidence of the knights in the downfall timeline?
"TP biggest mystery!" Nd it's snowpeak again 😭🤦🏾♂️
Does anyone think we’ll get this game on switch 2
I don't think so but I sure hope so. I get tired of seeing videos about supposed leaks of it being completed and ready to go at any moment. I'd imagine it would be a great launch title to hold Zelda lovers over until other projects come out--very similar to Lets Go Pikachu/Eevee before Sword and Shield
FIRST TO SEE A COMMONWEALTH VIDEO! PLAYING THE LOTTERY TODAY😂😂 BEEN WATCHING FOR YEARS! THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO!
Man Skyward Sword is easily the worst game in the series, and yet video after video, Commonwealth cannot stop treating it like the Holy Grail 🤦♂️
Agreed. I personally hate that it's the "origin" story of the entire series, giving it so much importance that it didn't earn nor deserve.
Where you one of the Owners of the Triforce?
Out of every Zelda game I've played I say that Ocarina of Time is the best. Every Zelda game with Ganon in I say are the best.
I hope we eventually get the TP sequel they cancelled.
Too late for that after Aonuma moved on into open world/open air Zelda. Closest we'll ever get regarding the older titles are remakes for the Switch 2 and future consoles.
@@javiervasquez625 With all the OoT mods now out there, it might not be long before we get TP mods.
Videossssssss
Why does this dude can't finish his sentences? It's litteraly inaudible 60% of the time.
Brilliant. "Why does this dude can't". Why can't YOU write a coherent sentence?