Just about a perfect beginner track day bike, though. Great confidence builder IMO. Too many idiots jumping on R6s thinking they are Ben Spies, then they think it’s not for them when they find limits the hard way.
Hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling there will be a good amount of used R7's in the next few years. Sorry, but it's a hard to have a bike that looks like and has the ergonomics of a sportbike and only produce 67 hp. For $9k, someone will love it, grow tired of it, and then trade it in. I was going to purchase one of these, but I'll just buy a used 600cc sportbike instead.
You do realize that the FZ/MT/R7’s make more horsepower below 10K rpm than an R6…and the R6 never make as much torque as the 7’s have at 4K rpm. On track where a good rider can keep an R6 over 10K it will be faster. On the street stoplight to stoplight and on your favorite local twisty road the R7 will be more fun than an R6
you still have the track R6 if you want performance. In the city following traffic rules R7 will outperform R6 in comfort and performance so its really pointless for yamaha to lose on sales trying to satisfy few extreme people. They were literally charging over 12k(more than rs660 lol) for the model which is crazy if you think about it
I wish this bike was around when I first learned to start riding. Perfect amount of power and still with SS ergonomics and looks to make you feel engaged in the turns.
i havent been into sport bikes for a long time even though I still own one, wtf they dont make an R6, wtf are they racing in 600 series? lol just checked local ads, there are some for sale in AU for over 20k wtf, cheapest 06 on is 7.5k
Paint those engine covers brass like Honda, and this thing is jawdroppingly beautiful. It's understated, it doesnt look like it tries to be cool, it just is naturally gorgeous, effortlessly.
Have had my MT-07 since 2016 it's a great bike though i always wanted a sportbike. The R7 has come at the right time it is a great looking bike, that CP2 engine has all the practical power I need and with the bike having fully aerodynamic fairings this will help alot when the speed is needed. Ordering mine on Saturday I have to wait for an October shipment when it releases in the UK.
I don't think they're gonna sell an R9 unless they either kill off the R1, or significantly improve it by adding more engine. Because why buy an R9 for ~15k if you can buy an R1 for 18k.
@@Daniel-dj7fh mate they did kill the r1 its discontinued for 2025 and the r9 takes its place, its also a bike thats made to compete in the world super sports so it NEEDS to be sold otherwise it's not able to compete there like all the other bikes xD u just said a whole bunch of nothing.
@@IShadow__PT Call me fortune-teller from now on. I've never heard that the vehicles need to be sold, all I know is they need to be offered to be bought. If nobody buys them, it's not Yamaha's problem, except the whole making money thing. Also, I think you missed what I was saying, I said they won't sell an R9 without killing the R1, which is what is happening now. So that "whole lot of nothing" sounds like the reality, no?
@@Daniel-dj7fh you said you dont think they are selling the r9 without killing the r1 which is already happening so i dont get what u mean on that statement, also thats what i meant they need to "sell it" and you did understand that and you know it so again i dont get ur point its just a whole bunch of nothing
This right here! The R7 has no relation to the R6 or traditional super-sports for a reason. The mid weight super-sport segment is dying while a range of middleweight bikes are selling like hotcakes as the second fastest growing segment for motorcycles.
lol i bet the ninja 650 is better.... they act like this thing is so revolutionary because of the uneven firing order... it's a fucking p-twin with 70 (probably more like 62 at the wheel) horse... It's a ninja 650, From the tuning fork brand...
So curious to see and feel this on the road. Going from a 600super sport to my current naked bike this seems like an excellent option to get into a sportier class again without regrettably being full tuck at 30mph
So this is what is competing with the Triumph Trident 660 I guess, I will have to go check this girl out now. Not sure if it fit's in the first bike category.
@@Daniel-dj7fh I actually had some saddle time with the MT-07, in the showroom at least. The fit and finish on the Trident are in a different category in my opinion, the MT-07 is a beautiful bike but it has more plastic on it. I actually think I want them both. The Trident with bits painted in red is ultra ugly, should be fine with some aftermarket black parts.
Great vid and I’m into this new R7. I have a Svartpilen 701, 83 Suzuki RGV250 2 stroke as well as other small bore city rides (Monkey, Grom, Vespa 300). Don’t need too much tech or riding modes, nor do I need a good 100+HP. Just want to get out and ride anything, and enjoy it for what it is and provides. Been riding for years and always enjoyed the smaller and lighter bikes such as the Duke 390’s, Ninja 300 and the R3 is an awesome little bike. The Aprilia RS660 is one beautiful bike and I’m close to buying, but think this new R7 will just as equally provide me with what I’m after. Ride what you want and are in to :-)
People criticizing "HP bois" for citing that it's underpowered-- it is. I'm certainly not an HP boi, but as an experienced rider the sweet spot is 100-115 HP with a linear power band for spirited street riding and occasional track. Aprilia nailed this with the 660 at 100 on the dot and Honda has the CBR650 at 95. If this was offered with even 90 HP giving it some extra juice to the MT07 it's a winner compromise cool looking sport bike with great handling and practical power. 67 is a joke.
I’ve modified my R3 quite a bit, making 42-43RWHP… It’s my first bike, and I don’t really want an R6 next… I think this bike with an exhaust and ECU flash has potential to be a track weapon, and fun weekend machine.
This is what I wanted for a long time. Never loved I4s (Crossplane/V4 excepted). More torque, (to me) better sound, AND cheaper. A much better street machine.
this bike is garbage compared to a r6, like alot of people has said, Yamaha should of crowned this bike R4/R5. Honestly its basically a scam calling this bike an yzf-r7. It implies its a faster bike than r6 or even replaces it, and its not even in the same league by a long shot.
@@Nexumis actually it compares it to the old predecessor r7 which was an inline-4 700cc. but people should boycott shit bikes like this. they need to get their shit together and make a better bike for cheaper otherwise who the fuck is actually buying these shits?!?!?!?!?
@@yurig2530 the CBR is 50 lbs heavier, not a big deal if track won't be the primary focus. And yes the RS660 is overpriced at MSRP but Aprilia bikes often sell at a discount after the hype fades. For that matter the R7 is overpriced as well, I was shocked to hear 9k as I figured they'd go with 7,800 to 8,200 USD.
@@glsracer I dunno what new mt07' cost at your end of the world but they come new without any discouts for around 7800€ in Germany. Taken into consideration that the bike has maybe 1k worth of fairings, better forks, a new clipon set, dash (not sure if its the same as the new mt07), brembo master cylinders, a 190 back wheel setup and other stuff they probably did internally. 9k is pretty alright if compared to the mt07. Maybe slightly pricey, but again, before discounts.
@@Daniel-dj7fh yeah there are upgrades over the MT07, and you're right about MT07 pricing. The rise in bike pricing has been concerning since 2005. A bike like the MT07 should be around 6k to 6500 USD, which is why I calculated the R7 where I did. But the market determines pricing so if the R7 sells like hot cakes 3 years in at 9k USD then Yamaha priced it right.
Thanks for the solid review. I guess it all comes down to economics, you might disappoint a small portion of the population by not selling the badass sport bike, but if you’re gonna make money off the middle ground less exciting bike, you do it. As a middle-age guy with money to blow, I would buy the R7 way before I would buy the R6. I want something more tame that has reasonable power that’s also geared for around town. Never had much interest in a super sport bike. I imagine there’s a lot of people like me out there. If I ever am able to get a hold of one of these things, I will happily give it a try.
Looks like a great bike for everyday riding and having some everyday fun. Not everyone needs to go 200mph and spend 15k. Great bike for fun and good looks.
Interesting, but when I hear "R7" it means the superbike homologation special from the late 90's that you couldn't buy without a race license. There were even some "R7/1" bikes that ran at the Isle of Man, an R1 motor in an R7 frame.
@@steveman1982 Here in India, both the bikes will be overpriced(if they launched) We have to stick to Kawasaki, Ducati and Triumph for premium motorcycles!
@@zero11010 ya you right. Honestly just wish they make another in-line four even tho I already have a 09 r6. I think if they could have make one that was cheaper to manufacture than the r6 and met the dumb emissions it would be a success. But idk most people don’t want a fully faired bike these days at least where I’m from.
I like the bike, I do, but can't help but feel it's a little expensive for the package it is offering. I'm currently riding the 2020 Ninja 400 and having a blast but I do see myself getting a little more powerful bike in the near future. If the R7 made around 90-100 HP stock I might have been more tempted but atm I think I'll stick to my original plan and get the ZX6-R.
@@pratmak Actually in Japan where I live the price difference is pretty significant at $2200 (new). I might just pony up the difference or look for the zx6r in good condition used for cheaper.
@@shibapatrol801 oh yeah, I should have clarified where I live, the price difference is almost negligible. But, in your country, I can see why people would buy the R7.
Bro it's stupid to compare the r7 with any 600cc sportbike. One is a 2 cylinder, the other has 4. These are completely different engine layouts. One makes big torque down low and lacks top, the other makes peak performance up high but has nothing to offer down low. Are you going to be using the bike on the streets, or are you just gonna use it on the highway. There is a reason why one engine makes ~75hp and the other ~130hp, it's because they're nowhere the same.
@@samhanmma Yes. They will still sell it but you'll only be able to use it on the track. It's not worth updating the bike to meet emission standard anymore and part of that is not many people buy brand new R6 these days. I expect other superports to follow sooner or later.
@@TommyAngelo1337 Nice thanks for the info . For me i don't want others supersport to follow This . We won't be able to ride our bikes on street than . No more roadtrip 😢
Man people just don’t realize this motor has the PERFECT AMOUNT of torque for the street, where 95% of this bikes life will be spent. It’s not all about hp on the street. And you will absolutely destroy in the corners effortlessly. I’ve ridden a 2004 ZX10R, a 2019 R1, a 2008 R6, 2014 Street Triple R, and a 2004 CBR600RR alongside owning a 2017 FZ07 and never wished for more power after getting back on my bike. NEVER. It always put a smile on my face. I just hope someone who wants to buy the bike, but is discouraged by the comments, to read mine and ignore the negative speculation. Go with your gut, you won’t regret it I promise.
I put 1k miles on my 2021 R3. I love it, growing out of it doesnt seem to be inevitable for me. Everytime i see it in my garage i want to take it out lol
I barely put 700 miles on my R3 before getting a bigger bike. I ride it the other day and felt like I was going to fall over on it, Maybe the lightness is throwing me off a bit but it feels unsafe to me now.
I have some experience on the 2021 model on both track and street. Street ride is not comfortable due to the aggressive riding style. However on the track, the R7 is a potent weapon and it will bring a lot of confidence out of you to try harder to get better lap times.
If it's A2 compliant and Euro5 certified it would be a nice commuter bike for those who want to look sporty on a tight budget, it is after all a cheapy bike.
It's got under 95hp, so it's restricatble for the A2 licence, like the mt07. 9k is also not a chapy bike, if you want to look sporty on a tight budget you get a 300
2020 R6 sells for $24000 USD here in Taiwan. But I’ll buy one if they can make 2022 R6 or 2022 600rr sellable here. It’s not about price. Even R7 is like $13000 USD here. Coming in the fourth season presumably.
they added aluminum bolt ons for more rigidity??? Damn reviewers are so biased with Yamaha.... if Kawasaki or Suzuki did some shit like this they'd be called a little less premium then the other brands... In truth I think Yamaha has been slacking!
They did put a better fork on, and some better brakes up front. Not as good as the R6 but better than the MT. But calling it the successor to the FZ-6R (vs. the R6) might be more appropriate.
@@rs232killer but I don't remember seeing yamaha saying this is the sucessor of the r6 either, its what people have been telling themselves in the comments
It, basically, is an MT-07 with fairings, but 4 cyl 600cc are dying, no one wants them anymore, so that's why yamaha had to do something different. They gave you the look of a "crutch rocket" with daily usability of a naked bike.
This is a grear SuperSport for tracks , its usable for the streets , and the pretty flat torque curve also helps in the track ! Man adam , love your reviews and the way you call the yamaha a " Tuning Fork Brand ! " 😂 really good review !
How's the adjustability on those forks and the rear shock? One click on some bikes makes a huge difference because the suspension is actually built to a standard. I am a previous FZ-07 owner so the suspension is my #1 doubt about the bike. Everything else from the price to the power is great on the street. This is a street ike first and people coming about the power. 70hp on the street with a handful of torque is plenty fun and exciting already.
Not sure why i see everyone comparing this to the r6, theyre completely different classes of bikes. Comparing it to the Ninja 650 would be better; a "sporty" (but not completely "sport") bike that you can tuck-and-rip with when you want and sit upright and cruise comfortably with when you want. Atleast thats my view on it.
I think this is a great looking bike, My reservations are in regards to the power output. It should nowhere near be regarded as a super sport class bike. A road racer?
The void between the R3 and R1 was already filled by the R6... The 67hp R7 and +200 hp R1 are still a world apart. Imo... 67hp doesn't excite me very much and the R7 would bore me very quick.
@@justinpapin6397 Me neither. I can see people buying an R7, much like an MT-07, and be craving more power in no time. Perhaps not, but it would be pretty embarrassing to be riding a serious looking bike like the R7, and get your ass handed to you by some greaseball riding a Harley.
Does anyone have news about the retired R3, will there be a new one? I'm looking to buy one but it's not available in my country cuz of the new euro norm that's coming up.
@@the.communist ROFL :D yeah 0-100km/h in under 4 seconds damn, my turtle goes faster when he's hungry.. if u strap a rocket on his back. I have ridden mt-07 and this engine is tons of fun and its usable power right from the low revs, i'm not guy martin to do isle of man stuff on public roads let's be real. People are having a blast riding 300c bikes on the track and this R7 is as light and twice as fast come on ;D
@@the.communist not enough power for anyone considering buying a zx6, r6, cbr600 etc…I could put my 21 zx6 on low power mode and probably still smoke an r7. It’s not about always using the power you have, it’s about having that power when you want to use it, and on the r7 you don’t have that power even when you want it.
@@abyedrikn Can't say I hate it, I'm sure it's a good bike that platform/engine has work very well for Yamaha, but it seems like they had just ran out of ideas, and said "bugger it, let's just stick on a fairing and see who will but it"
@@rodger7541 I don't think they ran out of ideas, R6 wasn't selling much so they will make quiet a bit money with this bike I presume, especially in European market.
Listen I get soooo many compliments on my r7 even when I’m my group is bikes twice the price lol. There’s one universally hated part tho : the Stock Exhaust!!
This would have been a good bike to have adjustable height handlebars. It has potential as a sport tourer or daily commuter, but instead it has sport bike ergos yet a fairly low output engine.
This feels like one of those bikes that you don't want to be nice to, but you have to since it's just a press intro video. Budget sport bike. That has a strange ring to it.
@@1972adrianm garbage is selling right now because demand is low. Sport bikes died because nobody wanted them. I bet this bike isn't in the Yamaha lineup in the US in 5 years or less
I'm so tired of hearing "This bike is for you if you're worried about the power getting away from you". First, I feel it is a putdown for beginner riders, and second, every motorcycle doesn't have to have 100+ horsepower. I believe this "FOMO" trend regarding high horsepower in motorcycles is ruining the sport as a whole. Thoughts?
R7 has too little power for me, i wouldve loved to see the MT09 as a supersportbike to really have some power in the twisties while having the great look of a supersport.
There is already a series in the states where you take a MT07 and turn it into a MT07R - Yamaha should have just committed to that naming scheme. There is still a massive hole left between the R7 and a R1 performance wise. Kinda disrespectful to the heritage of the R6 to be honest.
Nice bike, but the equivalent in Suzuki 👍being the venerable GSXR750 is much much better in every aspect. Better looking, better handling, bulletproof engine with more power & sweet sweet gearbox, and priced much lower 👍 why wouldnt you go with such tried and tested legendary bike? 🤔
I think this bike looks sexy as fuck and can't wait to see it in race fairings. After spending 12k on an FZ + track upgrades I'm torn. Wish I could swap to the new geometry and front end setup. Happy to see this bike happen though and hope it sparks a strong 650 racing class. Nice leathers and helmet man! The sandy gold is unique and looks sick.
Great Video! While the man talking had fantastic knowledge of the motorcycle (10/10), I had a hard time wondering if he had stuck a fork in the toaster in the morning. Additionally, I was hoping that there would have been far more high-quality sounds from the new motor. All the best!
I think it was a mistake making this a YZF model when that carries a certain connotation of sporting performance. If it were named the FZ-7R, I think people would have been more accepting of this level of performance.
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Change playback speed to 1.25 for a normal video
Anything below 1.5 makes a snail look fast
Real heros are always in the comments
Thankyou 😭😭
Just about a perfect beginner track day bike, though. Great confidence builder IMO. Too many idiots jumping on R6s thinking they are Ben Spies, then they think it’s not for them when they find limits the hard way.
I doubt most people can even get the rear on an r3 sideways, I wouldn't consider the mt07 or r7 beginner bikes.
600 cc bikes are a joke
@@TheInfantry98 so are 1000' on the street tbh
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Hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling there will be a good amount of used R7's in the next few years. Sorry, but it's a hard to have a bike that looks like and has the ergonomics of a sportbike and only produce 67 hp. For $9k, someone will love it, grow tired of it, and then trade it in. I was going to purchase one of these, but I'll just buy a used 600cc sportbike instead.
You could have just bought a used 600cc sportbike anyway.
well not in some country..tbh
Ya I’ll keep my 09 r6
You do realize that the FZ/MT/R7’s make more horsepower below 10K rpm than an R6…and the R6 never make as much torque as the 7’s have at 4K rpm. On track where a good rider can keep an R6 over 10K it will be faster. On the street stoplight to stoplight and on your favorite local twisty road the R7 will be more fun than an R6
Doubt it. It will sell like hot cakes. So many HP bois on the comments here it’s hilarious.
R7 looks good enough,but to be frank the performance doesn't Fullfill the middleweight yamaha R series tag
By that logic, neither does the R3 then
@@Luciferius-ym8qt I've mentioned "middleweight"
you still have the track R6 if you want performance. In the city following traffic rules R7 will outperform R6 in comfort and performance so its really pointless for yamaha to lose on sales trying to satisfy few extreme people. They were literally charging over 12k(more than rs660 lol) for the model which is crazy if you think about it
@@abyedrikn R6 gonna be discontinued
@@midhungopan9270 They are disconntinuing the road legal version. If you want one as a track day toy then you will still be able to buy one
I wish this bike was around when I first learned to start riding. Perfect amount of power and still with SS ergonomics and looks to make you feel engaged in the turns.
I love the R7. Makes my 2020 R6 more valuable!💯🏍👍🏽🦾
Not actually though
with or without r7 it will be valuable since it will be rare in the market...
@@TrolloTV yes, “actually” brainiac. Just look at CycleTrader. I have💯👍🏽
R6 went up in price because they are a good but discontinued bike. R7 doesn’t really change anything there
i havent been into sport bikes for a long time even though I still own one, wtf they dont make an R6, wtf are they racing in 600 series? lol just checked local ads, there are some for sale in AU for over 20k wtf, cheapest 06 on is 7.5k
Paint those engine covers brass like Honda, and this thing is jawdroppingly beautiful.
It's understated, it doesnt look like it tries to be cool, it just is naturally gorgeous, effortlessly.
Have had my MT-07 since 2016 it's a great bike though i always wanted a sportbike.
The R7 has come at the right time it is a great looking bike, that CP2 engine has all the practical power I need and with the bike having fully aerodynamic fairings this will help alot when the speed is needed.
Ordering mine on Saturday I have to wait for an October shipment when it releases in the UK.
That's basically the same bike with fairing, and maybe different ergonomics.
Nothing can beat the inline 4s but I loved the twins as well. One cannot ask everything in a motorcycle.
Next year Yamaha is coming out with the R9, triple cylinder to come after Triumph Daytona, MV Agusta sport bikes.
I don't think they're gonna sell an R9 unless they either kill off the R1, or significantly improve it by adding more engine.
Because why buy an R9 for ~15k if you can buy an R1 for 18k.
This aged well
@@Daniel-dj7fh mate they did kill the r1 its discontinued for 2025 and the r9 takes its place, its also a bike thats made to compete in the world super sports so it NEEDS to be sold otherwise it's not able to compete there like all the other bikes xD u just said a whole bunch of nothing.
@@IShadow__PT Call me fortune-teller from now on.
I've never heard that the vehicles need to be sold, all I know is they need to be offered to be bought. If nobody buys them, it's not Yamaha's problem, except the whole making money thing.
Also, I think you missed what I was saying, I said they won't sell an R9 without killing the R1, which is what is happening now. So that "whole lot of nothing" sounds like the reality, no?
@@Daniel-dj7fh you said you dont think they are selling the r9 without killing the r1 which is already happening so i dont get what u mean on that statement, also thats what i meant they need to "sell it" and you did understand that and you know it so again i dont get ur point its just a whole bunch of nothing
Love my GSXR750. After owning many 600's, it is exactly what I want in a motorcycle.
So they made the gap to the R1 even bigger....
Its like a sporty competitor of Ninja 650 and CBR 650R.
@Christian Hansen Exactly...I got the CBR650R for a more relaxed sportbike that still had the i4 engine like a supersport
@Christian Hansen and an empty wallet for weight savings
This right here! The R7 has no relation to the R6 or traditional super-sports for a reason. The mid weight super-sport segment is dying while a range of middleweight bikes are selling like hotcakes as the second fastest growing segment for motorcycles.
lol i bet the ninja 650 is better.... they act like this thing is so revolutionary because of the uneven firing order... it's a fucking p-twin with 70 (probably more like 62 at the wheel) horse... It's a ninja 650, From the tuning fork brand...
Sporty looks, Sporty leg cramps and back pain but sport-tourer power band. This is a very weird bike
So curious to see and feel this on the road. Going from a 600super sport to my current naked bike this seems like an excellent option to get into a sportier class again without regrettably being full tuck at 30mph
So this is what is competing with the Triumph Trident 660 I guess, I will have to go check this girl out now. Not sure if it fit's in the first bike category.
@@jafo4u508 the mt07 competes with the trident enginewise, but you have to note that the trident costs more than the mt
@@Daniel-dj7fh I actually had some saddle time with the MT-07, in the showroom at least. The fit and finish on the Trident are in a different category in my opinion, the MT-07 is a beautiful bike but it has more plastic on it. I actually think I want them both. The Trident with bits painted in red is ultra ugly, should be fine with some aftermarket black parts.
The R6 is one of my dream bikes! Sad to see it replaced by the R7
You can still buy the r6. Where are people getting this idea the r6 is no longer made?
@@PEZ1514 from Yamaha lmao fool
Great vid and I’m into this new R7. I have a Svartpilen 701, 83 Suzuki RGV250 2 stroke as well as other small bore city rides (Monkey, Grom, Vespa 300). Don’t need too much tech or riding modes, nor do I need a good 100+HP. Just want to get out and ride anything, and enjoy it for what it is and provides. Been riding for years and always enjoyed the smaller and lighter bikes such as the Duke 390’s, Ninja 300 and the R3 is an awesome little bike. The Aprilia RS660 is one beautiful bike and I’m close to buying, but think this new R7 will just as equally provide me with what I’m after. Ride what you want and are in to :-)
Waheed speaks so slowly that he sounds somewhat normal at a 1.5 playback speed
Lol good point! 1.25 is right on.
Yamaha always brings smile on the face 👍
it's very slow compared to r6
Excellent overview 👍 Perfect step for R3 riders. sound of twin cylinders 👍
Thats what im thinking, made trade my 2020 R3 in for the R7. Should be a big upgrade to riders at my level for the most part
People criticizing "HP bois" for citing that it's underpowered-- it is. I'm certainly not an HP boi, but as an experienced rider the sweet spot is 100-115 HP with a linear power band for spirited street riding and occasional track. Aprilia nailed this with the 660 at 100 on the dot and Honda has the CBR650 at 95. If this was offered with even 90 HP giving it some extra juice to the MT07 it's a winner compromise cool looking sport bike with great handling and practical power. 67 is a joke.
I’ve modified my R3 quite a bit, making 42-43RWHP… It’s my first bike, and I don’t really want an R6 next… I think this bike with an exhaust and ECU flash has potential to be a track weapon, and fun weekend machine.
why not track your r3?
@@KimmyR3 I’m going to. 😁 I think I’ve decided to use my R3 for track and fun commuting. Going to save up for a 2020 BMW S1000RR.
@@chrisp.5272 literally said “oh Jesus” when I read that last comment haha
This is what I wanted for a long time. Never loved I4s (Crossplane/V4 excepted). More torque, (to me) better sound, AND cheaper. A much better street machine.
this bike is garbage compared to a r6, like alot of people has said, Yamaha should of crowned this bike R4/R5. Honestly its basically a scam calling this bike an yzf-r7. It implies its a faster bike than r6 or even replaces it, and its not even in the same league by a long shot.
@@Nexumis actually it compares it to the old predecessor r7 which was an inline-4 700cc. but people should boycott shit bikes like this. they need to get their shit together and make a better bike for cheaper otherwise who the fuck is actually buying these shits?!?!?!?!?
For 9k, I'd expect about 85 RWHP. For my money I'd be on the CBR650R or RS660, maybe even the Ninja 1000 SX.
RS660 is $11500, I believe.CBR is much heavier.
@@yurig2530 the CBR is 50 lbs heavier, not a big deal if track won't be the primary focus. And yes the RS660 is overpriced at MSRP but Aprilia bikes often sell at a discount after the hype fades. For that matter the R7 is overpriced as well, I was shocked to hear 9k as I figured they'd go with 7,800 to 8,200 USD.
the mt07 makes 74hp or something in its euro4 form, how on earth is the same engine supposed to make more hp?
@@glsracer I dunno what new mt07' cost at your end of the world but they come new without any discouts for around 7800€ in Germany.
Taken into consideration that the bike has maybe 1k worth of fairings, better forks, a new clipon set, dash (not sure if its the same as the new mt07), brembo master cylinders, a 190 back wheel setup and other stuff they probably did internally. 9k is pretty alright if compared to the mt07. Maybe slightly pricey, but again, before discounts.
@@Daniel-dj7fh yeah there are upgrades over the MT07, and you're right about MT07 pricing. The rise in bike pricing has been concerning since 2005. A bike like the MT07 should be around 6k to 6500 USD, which is why I calculated the R7 where I did. But the market determines pricing so if the R7 sells like hot cakes 3 years in at 9k USD then Yamaha priced it right.
Thanks for the solid review. I guess it all comes down to economics, you might disappoint a small portion of the population by not selling the badass sport bike, but if you’re gonna make money off the middle ground less exciting bike, you do it. As a middle-age guy with money to blow, I would buy the R7 way before I would buy the R6. I want something more tame that has reasonable power that’s also geared for around town. Never had much interest in a super sport bike. I imagine there’s a lot of people like me out there. If I ever am able to get a hold of one of these things, I will happily give it a try.
Looks like a great bike for everyday riding and having some everyday fun. Not everyone needs to go 200mph and spend 15k. Great bike for fun and good looks.
Interesting, but when I hear "R7" it means the superbike homologation special from the late 90's that you couldn't buy without a race license. There were even some "R7/1" bikes that ran at the Isle of Man, an R1 motor in an R7 frame.
Nice
But I think Aprillia is a bit better!
I agree, that's a very pretty bike. But on price I think Yamaha will have the edge.
@@steveman1982 Here in India, both the bikes will be overpriced(if they launched)
We have to stick to Kawasaki, Ducati and Triumph for premium motorcycles!
Somewhere, I still feel the R6 should be there in their lineup
R9 would be the best bet for them
R6 is still there, track only though.
@@zero11010 ya you right. Honestly just wish they make another in-line four even tho I already have a 09 r6. I think if they could have make one that was cheaper to manufacture than the r6 and met the dumb emissions it would be a success. But idk most people don’t want a fully faired bike these days at least where I’m from.
@@zero11010 bro because again inlin4 motors and inline3 motors arent the same
@@justinsmith7808 still waiting for all the manufacturers to slap out an inline4 250cc bike like kawasaki
I like the bike, I do, but can't help but feel it's a little expensive for the package it is offering. I'm currently riding the 2020 Ninja 400 and having a blast but I do see myself getting a little more powerful bike in the near future. If the R7 made around 90-100 HP stock I might have been more tempted but atm I think I'll stick to my original plan and get the ZX6-R.
I agree and especially since the zx6 is only a 1000 more, it makes so much sense.
@@pratmak R7- 68HP, ZX-6R 130HP.
It's a no brainer.
@@pratmak Actually in Japan where I live the price difference is pretty significant at $2200 (new). I might just pony up the difference or look for the zx6r in good condition used for cheaper.
@@shibapatrol801 oh yeah, I should have clarified where I live, the price difference is almost negligible. But, in your country, I can see why people would buy the R7.
Bro it's stupid to compare the r7 with any 600cc sportbike.
One is a 2 cylinder, the other has 4. These are completely different engine layouts.
One makes big torque down low and lacks top, the other makes peak performance up high but has nothing to offer down low.
Are you going to be using the bike on the streets, or are you just gonna use it on the highway.
There is a reason why one engine makes ~75hp and the other ~130hp, it's because they're nowhere the same.
R6 was such a beauty . This R7 is ugly. I'm so sad that they stopped making R6 . That bike is an icon
They still make R6, it's just not street legal anymore.
@@TommyAngelo1337 really ? You talking about race track one ? But do they sell them ?
@@samhanmma Yes. They will still sell it but you'll only be able to use it on the track. It's not worth updating the bike to meet emission standard anymore and part of that is not many people buy brand new R6 these days. I expect other superports to follow sooner or later.
@@TommyAngelo1337 Nice thanks for the info . For me i don't want others supersport to follow This . We won't be able to ride our bikes on street than . No more roadtrip 😢
Man people just don’t realize this motor has the PERFECT AMOUNT of torque for the street, where 95% of this bikes life will be spent. It’s not all about hp on the street. And you will absolutely destroy in the corners effortlessly. I’ve ridden a 2004 ZX10R, a 2019 R1, a 2008 R6, 2014 Street Triple R, and a 2004 CBR600RR alongside owning a 2017 FZ07 and never wished for more power after getting back on my bike. NEVER. It always put a smile on my face. I just hope someone who wants to buy the bike, but is discouraged by the comments, to read mine and ignore the negative speculation. Go with your gut, you won’t regret it I promise.
“Beefened Up” may be favorite Waheedism of all time.
Yep. I love beef and lamp.
@Casey R. Lol.
This is a word isn't it? Been using it for centuries, Very common in Midwest lingo if I remember correctly.
@@jafo4u508 Beefed is. Beefened on the other hand, no.
Love the reviews on this channel
Theres so many reviews on this bike jeez , im buying one anyway they sound nice with an exhaust and they could be for the chill twisty mountain days
more like RT-07. I would rather get a Suzuki S1000 for $1000 more.
Your gear looks badass, my dude. Cool bike to go with it 👌
Picking my 60th GWP R7 in two weeks. I am beyond ecstatic.
Love how they maintain the pure sound of the bike...very unique
Now we just need Suzuki to release a new SV650S
facts. i hope the design is nice tho i havent been liking any of their new designs besides the GSXR1000 or the new hayabusa
Nah SV is trash, there's a reason you never see them on the street.
Im a beginner and I’m really debating between this and the MT-07, SV650, or CB650R
They need to make an R7-R with a tuned MT-09 engine in it.... That bike would definitely sell well.
Just get this one and tune it yourself
I put 1k miles on my 2021 R3. I love it, growing out of it doesnt seem to be inevitable for me. Everytime i see it in my garage i want to take it out lol
@@nightnday6675 And there is where the R7 would suite your purpose, unless of course you want the r3 to wring out its gears.
I barely put 700 miles on my R3 before getting a bigger bike. I ride it the other day and felt like I was going to fall over on it, Maybe the lightness is throwing me off a bit but it feels unsafe to me now.
@@tonydtiger1925 lol i stand corrected. Im gonna get a bigger bike soon. Im trying to sell my R3 now lmao
@@tonydtiger1925 How much have you been riding before the 700miles on your r3?
I have some experience on the 2021 model on both track and street. Street ride is not comfortable due to the aggressive riding style. However on the track, the R7 is a potent weapon and it will bring a lot of confidence out of you to try harder to get better lap times.
Holy crap, I'm gonna have to seriously lock this up before bringing it to the track for some fun
If it's A2 compliant and Euro5 certified it would be a nice commuter bike for those who want to look sporty on a tight budget, it is after all a cheapy bike.
It's got under 95hp, so it's restricatble for the A2 licence, like the mt07. 9k is also not a chapy bike, if you want to look sporty on a tight budget you get a 300
2020 R6 sells for $24000 USD here in Taiwan. But I’ll buy one if they can make 2022 R6 or 2022 600rr sellable here.
It’s not about price.
Even R7 is like $13000 USD here. Coming in the fourth season presumably.
R7 would be a beast in 1985, but in almost 2022 it sounds to me more like beginner track bike than something what could be called real R bike.
I love that blue! God it's like a royal blue I love it
I think I'll stay with my trusty, more powerful, and still handsome 2011 GSX-R750
they added aluminum bolt ons for more rigidity??? Damn reviewers are so biased with Yamaha.... if Kawasaki or Suzuki did some shit like this they'd be called a little less premium then the other brands... In truth I think Yamaha has been slacking!
nope, steel, even cheaper than alu
@@ktkace isn't steel more suitable here
They just announced you get free jean shorts and new balance sneaks with every purchase!!
I’ll take mine with some mom-jeans💯
so this is an mt-07 with fairings. Hard pass
They did put a better fork on, and some better brakes up front. Not as good as the R6 but better than the MT. But calling it the successor to the FZ-6R (vs. the R6) might be more appropriate.
@@rs232killer but I don't remember seeing yamaha saying this is the sucessor of the r6 either, its what people have been telling themselves in the comments
It, basically, is an MT-07 with fairings, but 4 cyl 600cc are dying, no one wants them anymore, so that's why yamaha had to do something different. They gave you the look of a "crutch rocket" with daily usability of a naked bike.
@@Faceless_Chat i love the r7, I would also have loved a small cc 4clyinder like the ninja250rr. But sadly that's not sold in the European market
Not an MT07 with fairings at all. Dope bike
At last people start to understand that it doesn't take much power to have fun, quite the opposite
we're far from that bro
Exactly, torque is way more fub
Based on the comments, that doesn’t seem to be the case
@@shittywheelies7403 they probably havent experienced it yet 🤔
@@Nick-dz4ml I think he means, that people still haven't realised that smaller displacement bikes make more fun
This is a grear SuperSport for tracks , its usable for the streets , and the pretty flat torque curve also helps in the track !
Man adam , love your reviews and the way you call the yamaha a " Tuning Fork Brand ! " 😂 really good review !
It’s a sport bike. But no bike with 70 bhp will ever be a SuperSport.
@@24james supersport usually refers to the visuals and the ergos , just like the way a naked bike is naked.
Yamaha Sales : This is a GP bike for you
Me : GP? You mean Grand Prix bike? Cool!!!
Yamaha Sales : No no no, General Purpose bike
Adam Waheed : 04:38
How's the adjustability on those forks and the rear shock? One click on some bikes makes a huge difference because the suspension is actually built to a standard.
I am a previous FZ-07 owner so the suspension is my #1 doubt about the bike. Everything else from the price to the power is great on the street. This is a street ike first and people coming about the power. 70hp on the street with a handful of torque is plenty fun and exciting already.
Good vid bro, maybe get a buzz cut or taper with ur hair style? How does it compare to aprilla rs660?
Stunters are going to love it.
67 hp? What am I supposed to do with that? Cut the grass?
Nice man, lol. You win the comment section today, lol.
@@AdamWaheed great video as always. Ignore people who live in lala land lol. its not as powerful as you would have expected but its no mean a slouch.
@@sagheer.a4988 67 HP, yeah buds it's a slouch.
Question for video crew, are you guys using the new Sony cameras?
yeah the bike is cool BUT the riding gear Adma is using? thats fire! from the one-piece suit to the helmet and gloves it fits 100%
Damn that's a dope helmet-onsie combo
Missed opportunity to use the CP3 engine imo
Not sure why i see everyone comparing this to the r6, theyre completely different classes of bikes. Comparing it to the Ninja 650 would be better; a "sporty" (but not completely "sport") bike that you can tuck-and-rip with when you want and sit upright and cruise comfortably with when you want. Atleast thats my view on it.
Why would anyone choose to buy a racing suit and helmet in BEIGE?
No mention of it in the video but those clip ons don’t look terribly low.
Just for reference: the Aprilia RS660 has just over 85hp at the back wheel and weighs in at 400lbs. wet...
And the rs660 costs more than an R6, witch the R6 is a better bike.
Honestly the bike is based off perspective. The R7 is just going to be a sexy ass bike that will give me a good kick from me ol R3.
I think this is a great looking bike, My reservations are in regards to the power output. It should nowhere near be regarded as a super sport class bike. A road racer?
Yamaha are strange with their titles. They call the MT125 and MT03 "Hyper nakeds"
For roughly the same price you can get the base zx6r and is leaps faster and better in every way
The void between the R3 and R1 was already filled by the R6...
The 67hp R7 and +200 hp R1 are still a world apart.
Imo... 67hp doesn't excite me very much and the R7 would bore me very quick.
I remember when a brand new 05 08 r1 cost no more than 10k and r6 were 7k need to get back to that
Discontinuing the R6 and start a new R7 is the worst decision Yamaha has ever made
They cant help that no one is buying the r6..
70 HP supersport? Ah no, more like fine tuned beginners bike.
Right? The ergos are still very aggressive and cramped but it has a more relaxed power band, I don't get it at all
@@justinpapin6397 Me neither. I can see people buying an R7, much like an MT-07, and be craving more power in no time. Perhaps not, but it would be pretty embarrassing to be riding a serious looking bike like the R7, and get your ass handed to you by some greaseball riding a Harley.
This is first video I've seen with the Blue R7 that shows what that darker fairings true color is. I thought it was black, but it's a dark blue.
My god. How late is this video? Was it in Covid quarantine or something?
Does anyone have news about the retired R3, will there be a new one? I'm looking to buy one but it's not available in my country cuz of the new euro norm that's coming up.
looks good. But not enough Power
Enough for what? Shoot for space?
@@the.communist ROFL :D yeah 0-100km/h in under 4 seconds damn, my turtle goes faster when he's hungry.. if u strap a rocket on his back. I have ridden mt-07 and this engine is tons of fun and its usable power right from the low revs, i'm not guy martin to do isle of man stuff on public roads let's be real. People are having a blast riding 300c bikes on the track and this R7 is as light and twice as fast come on ;D
@@the.communist not enough power for anyone considering buying a zx6, r6, cbr600 etc…I could put my 21 zx6 on low power mode and probably still smoke an r7. It’s not about always using the power you have, it’s about having that power when you want to use it, and on the r7 you don’t have that power even when you want it.
How does this compare to Honda CBR 650R 2022?
The single headlight kinda kills the look of the bike Yamaha had the best duel headlight look out there
I don't recall being this uninterested by a bike before.
Its a great reliable option for the price in my opinion.
@@abyedrikn Can't say I hate it, I'm sure it's a good bike that platform/engine has work very well for Yamaha, but it seems like they had just ran out of ideas, and said "bugger it, let's just stick on a fairing and see who will but it"
@@rodger7541 I don't think they ran out of ideas, R6 wasn't selling much so they will make quiet a bit money with this bike I presume, especially in European market.
Listen I get soooo many compliments on my r7 even when I’m my group is bikes twice the price lol. There’s one universally hated part tho : the Stock Exhaust!!
This would have been a good bike to have adjustable height handlebars. It has potential as a sport tourer or daily commuter, but instead it has sport bike ergos yet a fairly low output engine.
This feels like one of those bikes that you don't want to be nice to, but you have to since it's just a press intro video. Budget sport bike. That has a strange ring to it.
It’s a better bike than the R6 for 90% of the people that bought an R6. The first 500 imported sold out in 2 days. I think Yami got it right.
@@1972adrianm garbage is selling right now because demand is low. Sport bikes died because nobody wanted them. I bet this bike isn't in the Yamaha lineup in the US in 5 years or less
I'm so tired of hearing "This bike is for you if you're worried about the power getting away from you". First, I feel it is a putdown for beginner riders, and second, every motorcycle doesn't have to have 100+ horsepower. I believe this "FOMO" trend regarding high horsepower in motorcycles is ruining the sport as a whole. Thoughts?
Good review! Thanks!
R7 has too little power for me, i wouldve loved to see the MT09 as a supersportbike to really have some power in the twisties while having the great look of a supersport.
There is already a series in the states where you take a MT07 and turn it into a MT07R - Yamaha should have just committed to that naming scheme. There is still a massive hole left between the R7 and a R1 performance wise. Kinda disrespectful to the heritage of the R6 to be honest.
Perhaps are they internally working on a new cheaper version of the R6 or are they completely abandoning it? It was a superb bike.
emissions said no
Great review!
Sorry but a MT 07 with plastic is not a R model. They will probably sell tons but not really a sports bike performance wise.
Bros got the CHiPs inspired track suit
Nice bike, but the equivalent in Suzuki 👍being the venerable GSXR750 is much much better in every aspect. Better looking, better handling, bulletproof engine with more power & sweet sweet gearbox, and priced much lower 👍 why wouldnt you go with such tried and tested legendary bike? 🤔
I think this bike looks sexy as fuck and can't wait to see it in race fairings.
After spending 12k on an FZ + track upgrades I'm torn. Wish I could swap to the new geometry and front end setup. Happy to see this bike happen though and hope it sparks a strong 650 racing class.
Nice leathers and helmet man! The sandy gold is unique and looks sick.
I just google the R7! Great timing.
Playback speed at 1.25x and enjoy
Great Video! While the man talking had fantastic knowledge of the motorcycle (10/10), I had a hard time wondering if he had stuck a fork in the toaster in the morning. Additionally, I was hoping that there would have been far more high-quality sounds from the new motor. All the best!
I would like to get this bike as my first motorcycle and learn on it what do you think?
Perfect bike to own
I think it was a mistake making this a YZF model when that carries a certain connotation of sporting performance. If it were named the FZ-7R, I think people would have been more accepting of this level of performance.
Is R6 discontinued?