Winter Solo Camp & Fly Fishing in the Snowy Mountains
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Join me for an overnight solo camp in the Australian High Country (Snowy Mountains) as I try to get one last trout session in before the season closes. It was cold, it was windy and the fishing was tough; but still a great camp in a beautiful location.
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Alright, as expected, it seems that my views on the issue of wild horses (Brumbies) got a few people riled up. What I said in the vid is only a fraction of what I think on the topic as a whole. But as I was walking I didn’t have the time to say everything I wanted to say. So here’s my thoughts:
1. Yes, the horses have an important role to play in our modern day heritage. It's not their fault that they're here and it's a bloody shame that we have to cull such a beautiful animal. I would much rather see these animals re-homed than killed. But at the same time, the number of horses are exploding (the reason I even bought up the topic was because I saw close to 100 horses all within 1km from the car. That's a lot of horses.) We need to do something to keep the numbers in check, otherwise they will just keep expanding with no natural predators (except us). As Aussie’s, we should want to promote our unique native wildlife rather than introduced species that exist elsewhere in the world. Would you let pigs/foxes/cane toads/ feral cats etc go unchecked? Probably not. So why horses?
2. I love the old stockman culture of the High Country, and want to see that heritage carry on. Kosciuszko NP still allows people to bring their own horses to go riding/camping, or you can go on one of the guided horse tours through the park. So the culture is still essentially living on (especially in the surrounding communities) we just don’t need the thousands and thousands of feral horses roaming the park.
3. I’m not oblivious to the contradiction of me going to fish for non native trout. I would much prefer these rivers to have native fish such as Murray cod.
4. Yes, we humans do way more damage to the environment than the horses will ever do. Just look at the Snowy Hydro system and the ski resorts in the park. Nothing is perfect. But if we see an issue (feral animals in the park) and have the means and opportunity to control it, then we should.
5. Playing devils advocate, given that feral animals are here in Australia and most likely not going away, should we consider them apart of a changing ecosystem, soon to be considered native, just like dingoes? I don’t know. Perhaps. Perhaps not. But if we do allow them to stay, then we still need to keep their numbers in check by allowing people to hunt them, even in nationals parks, as we are the only apex predator.
6. Lastly, quite a few people love to point out that I’m not from the bush and grew up in the outer suburbs of Sydney (I didn’t get to decide where I was born). At least I'm getting out there and enjoying the bush now and I have a strong passion for this country and the way it’s managed.
Estoy de acuerdo con tus puntos de vista en cuanto a las especies invasivas, también aquí en Chiapas tenemos los apicultores enfrentaron la invasión de abejas africanas introducidas por humanos. Saludos
The problem of excess numbers was solved in Guy Fawkes NP by allowing capture and re-homing of the horses after a disastrous and inhumane eradication program. The dedicated team that keep, train and sell them on are simply amazing. The horses make amazing rides and I can't see why the same strategy won't work in Kozi NP. Their plight is the fault of humans and they deserve a chance at a good life, not indiscriminate slaughter.
Nungar Creek ?
I was born and raised in the high country and I agree with everything you said
I don't disagree with you I just find it wild that you'd rather see kangaroos which are also pests that cause lots of damage
I have spent a lot of time in the bush, and I am with you Scotty, the brumbies, pigs, goats, and deer have to be strictly managed or they have to go. The destruction they cause to the bush is horrendous. Thanks for sharing.
Hooking the dead cat was classic mate, thats about my level of fishing lol. 100% agree about the feral horses, its a shame the issue has become so polarised. Also a shame we dont hear more recognition of or interest in the rich indigenous history of the high country which goes back many more thousands of years.
Seeing you camp in one extreme brings me joy. I'm from Canada and have spent 4 days camping in 3 feet or approximately a meter of snow at -45 Celsius. Your videos are amazing.
That's CRAZY !
It never gets below -5 in 95% of Australia !
If there's one thing I've learnt after 50 plus years of fishing and camping in that country don't take any notice of the weather forecast ,thanks for taking us along again Scotty to a beautiful part of our great Country.
Pretty impressed you drive all that way for one night camping in the freezing cold to film a video. 👍🏽
Definitely think we've grown to understand just how much damage the brumbies have done to the environment (and of course the feral pigs, deer, foxes, rabbits etc).
Unfortunately when the conditions are great animals flourish, and it's the same with feral animals.
Definitely a difficult conversation, but when it's an introduced species vs a native animal facing extinction we know what the right choice is.
Great video. High country definitely looks like it is worth a visit!
I grew up with horses and I love them
They saved my life when I was a kid from a broken family
Great video Scotty. Totally support your comments on the feral animals. The large brumby population is devastating to the fragile high country environment, especially around watercourses as you depicted.
Great video as always. Can’t go wrong with the bugout. Such a fantastic lightweight knife!
Your videos remind me to think about the important things in life, the little adventures along the way, and not to fokus on societies burdens like school, uni, work etc too much
You always pick a beautiful place to camp. We’re so lucky to see your videos. Thank you
Scotty, you just have the magic, man.... I truly love watching your magic, so beautifully put together, so professional. You are indeed a ambassador for Australia. Dead Cat blues, eh? Haha! Cheers!
As, much as I love horses, they don't belong in our National Parks. As with the pigs, dogs, cats, and foxes. They should be culled.
a measured well thougtht out opinion that considers all angles will always get backlash from folks who run on emotion and not reason.... keep up the good work mate.
Hahaha holy shit 😂😂
The dead cat… man, that got me so good 😂😂
Good on you for bringing up the subject of brumbies. A polarising subject that no one seems to have an answer to. Given the amount you counted on one plain, the overall population most be huge. Yes they have a place in the snowy mountains but the damage hard hoofed animals do to our fragile ecosystem is devastating. We have similar issues in Victoria with deer.
hilarious catch at the end! as for the non native animals, probably a bit controversial but I think they need to do a total cull. part of the problem is that the Aus gov has made it SO difficult for private hunters both in regards to firearms and in onselling to butchers, have mates that used to do roos but the rules and regulations are now so overbearing that it's not even close to profitable. would be even worse with brumbys cos who's gonna buy the meat. anyway great vid as usual
Beautiful photos. Thanks Scotty.
Wow that national park definitely need to make a donation to the glue factory.
Great that you spoke out on the feral animal issue that rages across the landscape. The horses, pigs, dear have no place. When I saw you videoing the horse's I was hoping you would say something. Well done.
The first nations people want the same
Are you and your family history immigrants / non native - reflect on yourself and be honest to yourself / opinion post
Do you have a place in australia
@@djames1345mate that is not in the same ballpark. Get off your figurative high horse and take your combative comments elsewhere.
If you must remove the horses, trap them by mustering. As for pigs and deer allow Sporting Shooters Association Australia members into national parks to control this vermin. I am sure it wouldn't be that hard to set a permit system up that only lasted 2 weeks for example. We can't even carry guns in these parks. Perfect haven, no shooters. Need I say more? Cheers 👍 🐕 🤠
I went walking through the National Park over easter and the damage from the brumbies was immense.
Over our 4 days we saw literally hundreds. The mountains if horse scat really ruined parts of the experience!
The only feral animal protected in a national park in the world!
Great video mate - u have inspired me to get back out there
Does' not matter where you are born you can still enjoy what we enjoy doing anywhere and that includes the camping hiking fishing adventures such as yours and also have an opinion without someone roasting that person for where they come from Not very inclusive or tolerant I say Keep up enjoying what you do Scotty as we also do.
Awesome video Scotty, that was a beauty! These high country trips are my all time fav, they are just different in such a good way! Was out recently down there and you never want to leave, an alpine country fire sure hits differently!
How a blooper awesomely made the whole video, that was absolute gold! Great stuff keeping that in 😂
Love your vids Scotty.
There are feral pigs everywhere at the moment. Our governments have dropped the ball on feral animal management. The brumbies numbers need thinning big time too. There is evidence of stream and surrounding ground damage. Personally, I don't agree with non-native animals in our national parks.
First time watching your channel.
Great vid. Loved it.
Josh Garrels 👍 very nice touch.
Beautiful only thing at the end was missing the rain however enjoyed that frm Scotland UK
Yep Scotty feral horses must go!!😮
Hello Scoty, I'm Indonesian 🍃🇮🇩🏕️🏕️
Hahahaha Awesomenessssss....Thanks for the Beautiful scenery and Great ending with the Wind Screen hahaha
Awesome video Scotty! Love the photos 👍
I'm totally with you Scotty on the feral horses issue. We need to get rid of the 'brumbies' word and call them what they are. Feral horses. There are plenty of other places for them, not the National Parks. Horse culture is only the last few hundred years of Australian history, whereas the other animals represent thousands and thousands of years of our natural history
Hi. Why are they called brumbies?
@HerrKapitanSebas hi, thanks for the info. The more you know...
Shooting them from a helicopter and leaving them half dead isn't The answer tho
@@paulcox9366I'm with you but what do you prepose they do?
TK
Have a comment when you have been to the exact location
I have - there is minimal damage
Bet you live where the was once a paddock. Your dwelling is damage to the environment - but bet you feel deserving to own it and do want you self deserve
If your not a first nation people, you’re non native
Scotty don't know whether that small stream is classified as fly fishing only, if it isn't, try a few worms on a bubble float and I'm sure you won't be disappointed. In my heart the Australian high country is a religious place. Thank you for sharing your adventure.
Love that music from Josh Garrels, thanks for introducing it 🙏
Your an absolute legend Scotty, keep up the good work ❤
Wow, what beautiful scenery, I can’t wait to get out to the vic high country
Not sure when you did this but egg patterns are the go this time of year.
Still a great little adventure
Good advice. You're a star.
Top stuff as always Scotty!! Thanks again for taking us along on another adventure!! Yewwww!!!
-Liam 🇦🇺 🤙🏿🤙🏿
Well I'm going to be one of these people that are FOR removing these horses. It's not complex it's very simple.
The amount of pressure the high country has come under in the last 30 years is greater than that environment's capacity to adapt. Multiple fires with fires on top of regrowth in short periods of say 4-8 years, followed by more fire in an ecology that has evolved to handle fires every 100 or more years, all driven by drought is changing most aspects of the vegetation uniquely adapted to the environment up there. From the trees to the moss bogs and all the native fauna that depends on that native flora.
The die-back of the snow gums is caused by repeated drought cycles stressing snow gums enabling native insects that cause the die-back to gain a foothold in stressed trees. The numbers of these insects appears to be getting out of balance also.
These feral horses are an entirely preventable stress.
On SBS a few months back there was a Jackie Chan movie week. Anyhow one of the films was shot, in part at Falls Creek on the Bogong high plains in 1995. I could not hardly believe the change up there in 28 years. The filming sequences show the High country in a condition that I remembered from that time with barely a stressed tree in sight apart from the occasional aged twisted gnarly gum. There was still cattle crazing at that time. The cattlemen have had to pay the ultimate price because of the environmental impact, recreational 4wds, campers and hikers are excluded for 40% of the year, so I reason, now too the horses (followed by the exploding deer - likely followed by exploding pig population).
The high plains are just small parcels of land under a great deal of pressure. They might recover but it is multiple pressures occurring faster than an ecology's capacity to adapt that is the problem. We can quickly change some of those pressure inputs. We need to stop debating and act.
Those people that try to justify these horses in our high country are pig ignorant. What I mean by pig ignorant is willful ignorance, denial and the use of confirmation bias, pushing an agenda of power promoting opinion as fact to targeted politicians - that ultimately allow this preventable destruction to not only continue but to grow faster and faster and faster with every passing year consistent with exponential growth in horse numbers. It is just maths + horses doing what horses do.
These supporters of horses have no experience in science. In short like flat earthers they get on social media and the whole thing is just a lifestyle choice based on a power trip of the like minded to get an outcome that suits them to the detriment of the very place they purport to love.
Conversely, I could imagine if there was $1000 per horse bounty on these feral animals many of these same people would be out there rounding them up, but there isn't.
Bear with me for a sec, they deny the very science that gave us the understanding of time dilation and therefore the modern internet, to use the modern internet to promote as opinion as fact. The irony! They cherry pick the parts of science they like and deny that which they don't.
The core business of science is to disprove hypothesis, and when independently verified by different teams, if the conclusions are the same then on the balance of probability it is more true than not true until more information comes to light and the process repeats. That's science - that's how conclusions therefore advancements are made.
None of them did maths in school, so conveniently they don't understand exponential. As sure as night turns to day when held to account they say, "For 10 generations my family has been going to the high country and these Brumbys are part of the Australian heritage bla bla bla and there aren't anything like 15,000 horses the 25 year old university girl doing her tax payer funded Phd says; what would she know, we're here on the ground it's our history?" I posit you can't argue against the science unless you're a scientist and have spent the time researching, had your research tested, peer reviewed and published. FFS!
It's Pol Potist thinking and a case of the tail wagging the dog.
Greetings from Wisconsin, USA! Loved the nighttime view of the stars and Milky Way! So beautiful. The other highlight was when you hooked your mic muff. So funny. We're just coming into summer here so it will be interesting to watch your snow camping. Your videos are always great! Hoo Roo!!
Love yr videos thks man 😊👌👍 waiting for those yummy cooked breakfast like you did before 🤞
I’m so glad you say hooroo. I say it all the time but a lot of Australians nowadays don’t know the word or what it means haha
Someone already said it but eggs and nymphs are the go this time of year unless u see fish rise. The cooler months they tend to eat subsurface. Awesome vid as always Scotty!
He had glow bugs in his fly box
Wow your a photographer aswell haha is there anything you can't do mate 🤟 great vid
So sad seeing those creeks so dirty. They should be crystal clear. No surprise with all the pigs and horses
Remember Scotty trout are feral animals too and compete with the Aussie species - I still like to spend a few hours trying to outwit them with a fly.
Tesco would make delicious beef burgers with those horses
Not too worried about the Kiwi skin but what about yours! Cold hands, new knife, have always loved that from your very early videos you always used a cute little flexible cutting board. Don't give yourself a really painful walk out and long recovery mate. (Having cut myself twice in the last few years in other circumstances...) I like that the necessity of filming kinda forces you to see the beautiful angles in challenging weather. What a shot with the dead cat, well done!
Another beautiful video!!
Your a good fella scotty. If more people had an umderstanding of ecosystems they may understand your view on the horses.
Mate new subscriber, not here ti debate your oppinions on anything but i absolutely love yoyr videos. I am a newbie with hiking. Your content is so inspirational and the most professionally put together, the best ive seen. The places yoy go to and allow us viewers to catch a glimps of your experience and just how magnificant our land is, is truely awsome. Personally i want to progress to doing overnighters, ( alone). I guess id like to ask how you felt the first tine doing overnight camp out there in the elements alone?
Personally, ur Tassie hike was breath taking and could really see your passion in this. Thanks again for the content man, and i rekon som educational content would bevawsone for keen newbies like myself!! Cheers!
Love to see a Benchmade in an Australian video! I'm from the hometown of Benchmade and I've been using that exact same knife for so many years!
Love your vedios
Do you have a issue with your titanium fork scratching your titanium pan? It’s a shame city slickers punt on the horses yet Champaign for wild brumbies to be left alone but they are a destructive force and should be culled.
I actually find it's quite often people from the bush who want to keep the brumbies around. And nah no real issue with the titanium fork scratching the pan.
Fingerless wool gloves ideal for fishing. work a treat! The ones that only the tips are missing that is..
Love your vids right before bed, great way to wind down after a long day. Appreciate all you do to make these vids.
I was watching the casting thinking you had to be getting bloody close to the camera 😂
What a pleasure watching you. From bushcraft to UL, your growing love for the Manaro and the high country.
Kind of ironic that brumbies who've been here 200 years get special protection while dingoes that've been here 5000 are shot on site... makes you wonder how much of it is really about money.
I luv horses but, they gotta be where they should be Scotty, and that’s not in our wilderness. Pigs and other ferals, get rid of ‘em, if we can make use of ‘em good! Humanely done under best practices!
Yes we need to remove feral animals from all national parks really . There’s not many corroboree frogs left , you can see how hoofed animals can damage their lives and habitat very easily . Another great adventure you have shared with us , thanks mate
Those horses do massive damage their feral
Love it.
caught ya microphone..bet ya couldnt do that again mate..great video and stunning location...hey ive an akubra snowy river hat here in orkney..all the best scotty...
I love animals also Scotty but feral animals don’t belong. That cold can make a tuff camp out mate, well done.
agree on the brumby issue, no predators except humans to kill them so there is no natural way to keep their numbers low enough to keep the feed available for the rest of the wildlife going forward, not to mention being hard footed animals they will overtime degrade the land.
Bloody legend!
Understand comment as on brumbies but should apply to trout then also....
We should be trying to rid this country of all pest and introduced species and bring back our amazing natives, bring back our landscapes to how they should be.
Great video.
The first nations people want the same
Are you and your family history immigrants / non native - reflect on yourself and be honest to yourself / opinion post
@@djames1345 I am quite familiar with what First Nations people want. I am also quite familiar with what has been lost over the past 250 years. Maybe you could reflect on yourself,
Agree 100% on your comments re proliferation of horses in what is supposed to be a National Park. Beautiful filming thanks.
Fishing a little stream like that, they can see you. Stand back a bit, maybe even get on your knees behind that grass. Drifting a fly is tough too, because the line can turn them off. You should mend your line to keep it out of the way, while drifting at a good speed.
As for the horses, people who have never been around them always think they’re so majestic etc…. They’re big, smelly, beasts, that do not belong there. Invasive need to be controlled. Maybe leave a few for cultural reasons, but that’s it.
In the last couple weeks iv seen more copper heads then anything else. I been fishing eucumbene 7degrees and seen 2 snakes almost stepped on one
Same horse problem in Barrington tops unfortunately
Awesome vid, cheers👍👍 your spot on about the horses and ferals, not in NP's. Hooking the cat was a spin out, i thought someone threw a rock at ya!
Hey Scotty, another awesome video! Love the look of the snowy mountains would love to get up there one day, love your hat what sort is it?
Probably an Akrubra.
Wow what a spectacular nature, animals, very beautiful and diverse vegetation ☺👍🙏
I agree 100% on the feral horses. Shouldn't be there, or in Barrington Tops.
The brumbies didn’t drive the native animals out… humans did with grazing lands and culling. Plus it was humans that brought the foreign species and just left them. But now its the brumbies fault for the outcome?… bring back the brumbies drover runs i say…
For sure, humans are definitely the root cause of most problems. I don't argue with that at all.
The non native trout have been culled! 😂
Feral horses have no place in National Parks or Conservation Areas. Period. They have a long history, sure, but so do foxes and rabbits and pigs… so sad to see so many feral animals present.
The first nations people want the same
Are you and your family history immigrants / non native - reflect on yourself and be honest to yourself / opinion post
Maybe you have no place in Australia
Agree with what you said about the feral animals as unfortunate as it is.
A poor day fishing is still better than the best day at work:-)
Do you ever run into anyone out there? I'd love to camp in the Snowy mountains
Pelo menos pescou um microfone 😅.
Mais um excelente vídeo, pra relaxar . 👏👏
We need to be across the board with feral animals. If it’s good enough to cull deer it’s good enough to cull horses, that also goes for trout, they’re non native after all.
That is a very interesting point. I will say that poison should have no place in feral control
Scott
Your dog you own and have living in the suburbs - is the dog native - how do you consider you neighbours with you dog living in captivity - barking as per your videos!
Is your dog native or are you adapting self interest discretion
Not as a question - but as a statement - who are you scott!
Great video, lucky the camera didn’t go swimming haha
Great vids mate!! Awesome landscapes.. BTW, what is the brand of hat you’re wearing? 🙏
What is the name of that last song? Love it and love every video you do!
Children’s song - Josh Garrels
great vid man.. im just starting out up qld.
Love seeing the Brumbies, but like over here with Thar and deer they do have to be managed🏕🇳🇿
Barbell jerry and billtong is pretty good. But trust me get some wagu billtong from a place called Meat Co in Mackay. They'll send it to you. It's pretty amazing. Haha. Love ya work
The still shots near the fire are so beautiful, Thanks for this, great work.
Hey Dumbo..how exactly you going to keep them out? lol...
Helicopter gunning or regulated hunting
Scott
Can you list the gear you use is Australian made and what is non native and articulate if the non native is carbon neutral made and non slave factory made
Nice one Scotty. I don't know much about fishing in Australia but its winter there so I am not sure how many flies would be available for the trout. I would use a Wooly Bugger this time of year. Remember - "Match the Hatch".
DAMN RIGHT YOU GONNA GET ROASTED IN THE COMMENTS,
On the NSW northern table lands our brumbies were going to be all shot an exterminated,so the locals of Guyra an ebor objected to it an they are now protected under federal law,because they are a unique type of high country horses and are allowed in the new England national park's at ebor,
And on the topic of feral animals,they are not ferals they are game animals that people hunt for meat an sport,
Australia had no worth while game or meat animals so the settlers introduced them for meat,to think you can return the bush to some pre colonial PRISTINE conditions is lunacy
Those animals are now part of the ecosystems wether people like it or not
And that goes for the deer as well
The Australia government plans to eradicate all deer from our forests that is madness,we have some of the world's most endangered deer species like,samba,hog,mollucan rusa,axis deer and our red deer were a gift to Australia from England from the royal herds of Scotland
Greens an people from the city do more damage to the Bush than country people and hunters
Mate
Love ya words
Nice one
City greens are the very worst in world.
Please read my comment that I've pinned to the top on this page. As much as people like yourself like to call me a city boy who has no clue, I actually agree that these feral animals are now part of our ecosystem and should be managed with hunting, even in national parks. I wish our hunting system was like the U.S. And I'm not even a hunter (yet). So don't be so quick to judge me.
@@ScottysGoneWalkabout no offence ment mate ha ha just thought it would be funny to refer to what you said,
I totally agree with you we as a nation should open our national parks and wilderness to hunting to control the game animal's numbers because they can do some damage, hay it's good your out enjoying the high country
I live in a region identical to the high country the northern NSW table lands just as high in altitude we got a mountain near our town Guyra that's actually the highest official point on mainland Australia called the BEN LOMOND,
Hay watched your channel a few times you doing a good job,with the camera,an scenery keep fish'n mate the alpine belt on the east coast has some of the best trout fishing,fossicking,hunting an just great wilderness
That most people don't see 👍thumbs up mate
is it allowed to camp at these national parks and have fire? Curious question.