If the shower is upstairs go into the loft and look above the cubicle. If the pipe and cable are fed from above you will see them. Or take off the old unit and you may be able to see which way they are being fed in. If you cant see due to tiles or whatever you can use a pipe/cable detector. Generally if they are not fed from above and are fitted correctly they should be either running vertically up, or possibly from the rear if there is a cupboard behind, or a hollow wall. @@red1981uk
Excellent video! I was quoted £300 for supply & fit to replace my broken down shower. Watched this and went to screw fix and got a new one for £49 job done.
I want to say thank you. I watched this video a few times and actually did it myself. The plumber wanted £120 just to swap over a shower unit. I did it myself feel really accomplished.
@@RMMaryport I’m pretty sure the plumber can get work elsewhere. This man probably has mouths to feed too, hence why he couldn’t spend £120 on something he could do himself.
Thanks this helped a lot when I replaced my old shower with my new one. The water inlet was a bit of a nightmare to get the nut loose but a bit of vinegar and WD40 eventually loosened the bugger! Saved me a lot of money getting someone else to fit this for me!
Thank you so much for this video. Never installed an electric shower before. Now fully operational and working a treat. It's amazing what you can learn from RUclips ❤
I'm so relieved to see someone with charisma making videos like this, so thank you! I'm not sure I could have managed another dull monotonous DIY video in preparation for doing some work in our house!
Mate you are my hero, have just fit my first change over new shower with your help, I was scared but did the job perfect, I did watch your video about 5 times lol...have subscribed and liked, top man!! 👍👍👍
thanks a lot I always run to your videos as my shower thermostatic valve is faulty, will have to fit a new shower instead coz it it is an old shower, cheers mate
Been watching your videos for a while now, very helpful. I found it amusing "if you have a qualified sparky around, to give you a hand" I am the sparks, its the compression joints that fill me with terror! Any way when Travis Perkins (TP) open, next door, I can get the job done! 15mm to 15mm plastic quick fit 90 elbow, repeat....!
Morning James. Love your videos. I've just fitted a new square MK shower pull switch. All is working ok. The red light shows brightly when on. But the red light still glows rather dim when I turn it off. Is that normal? I have turned it off at the consumer board. Please help mate. Dave.
My Bristan glee electric shower has started to drip out the bottom of the unit when it is switched off. Could you suggest a possible cause and cure please. Barry from Essex
Good work mate, I have a question for you, today I replaced a triton electric shower for an exact model but it would not get heat the water, have you got any idea to why it’s not heating the water?! Please let me know, many thanks
Cheers for that can u tell me what the cables are are they 10mm also are they called 10mm because of the size of the sheath or the individual wire thanks
Video is good, but to be honest, any half decent DIYer should be able to change an electric. What would be much more helpful is a video on changing an electric shower for a thermostatic. I appreciate theres a lot of issues to be considered in this but I'm sure you're the man for the job!!!
Hi, is it a problem if i do not know what is the KW of my previous old Electric Shower? Wish to buy one with 9.5 kw. Any danger to be aware? Thanks for your advices. Warm regards
To ensure you safely isolate the electrical supply, you also need to prove that your tester is functional (using a proving unit or a known live supply), both before and after you test. In the video, you did not prove that your tester was functional so it could have been possible that the supply was still live and your tester wasn't working properly. Enjoyed the plumbing!! 😀
I’m from Scotland uk I’m not sure where this videos from but an away we have a electric shower just like one in this video but our is called Mira advanced, I don’t know yet what’s going to happen if there going to change it to the same function among one or the newer type ours is old anaway, we pressed the button to switch it on and it just stuck or should I say broke, and our house is council property l, if they do how long would they take to change it?
Love your work mate, but as a sparky I need to point out that there wasn't an RCD in place there (unless it was hidden away somewhere). Really a sparky should come in to test that circuit and issue a Minor Works Certificate and Building Control Notification Certificate upon completion. An RCD is a must in a bathroom pretty much nowadays.
Thanks for the informative video 👍. Any reason at all why I wouldn't be able to use a 15mm compression to 1/2" flex to connect an existing isolation valve to a replacement shower rather than fiddle around with new pipe work?
You’d reduce the water pressure as the bore hole of the flexi is typically around 10mm, they are also typically internally constructed of rubber wouldnt be as safe a a copper pipe which is grounded on the water supply (you do still have earth connection to the rcd from the terminal block though)
My inlet from the tank in the roof space comes in at a crazy angle. It's flush to nothing and there isn't any give as the tubing is tough plastic. It won't sit flush with the inlet arm. It's caused leaks and broke the previous showers plastic push on arm. I nearly need two 90 degree arms to make it work. Need to find the right compression fittings to make it work
Love your videos. Seem like it would have covered the old holes if you turned hookup to the left (elbow on unit to the right) any particular reason other than you would have had to loosen it or turn another 1/2 turn?
Hi James, enjoyed the video, learned a great deal, wanted to ask, have you covered all the pipe bends??, also, could you do a video on fixed point bending??? multiple bends, Thank you.
Hi,your videos are great!very good job!i would like to ask you something,i just bought an electric shower but without knowing nothing about it,i am a little bit afraid of the plumbing part,basically i do have a normal shower tap and the plumbing system works with an electric pump and since i can not afford to spend almost 1000 euro for plumbers etc the only option available was to take out the old tap and from there to the cold side connecting an hose straight to the electric shower,in my mind it should work but im not 100% sure because everytime i connect the pressure washer to that very tap for some reason after 3 second stop working like if the water stop running and the only way to use it without problems is that i need to open another tap (feeded by the water pump) everywhere in the house and keep it open until done,in that way everything works fine and because of this im not 100% sure,im just worried that the electric shower would do the same of the pressure washer...have you any idea if can be done in this way?
i would have poured resin over that switched off isolation switch at the electrical board first. Me mum always walks around switching switches back on for ya nicely when ye is working. That cable would boil yr earwax down properly love.
Could anyone please tell if the elec cable is too short.. needs extending in order to be connected to shower,what materials do i need?please itemise. Thanks in advance.
Mate, any recommendations on one of those electric units that provides hot water at point of use I'm building a garden room/man cave including a sink soon and can't make head nor tale of all the mixed reviews. Ever found one you rate for around a ton? Great channel btw.
Great video, Ignore the hateeeeeee, I find your banter or craic as we NIrish call it good :) Better than watching some yank harping on, in an infomercial, Or a boring suited individual droning on in an over produced "how to" video! Keep up the good work!
hi i have a Creda 550C there is a grey rubber hose inside there is water coming out of it so its now leaking out bottom of shower relife valve i think if block end shower still works not that i have had it on long is there a reset if not how do i fix thanks can upload a video if this helps
Thanks it OK it was the pressure relief Valve. Replaced it ..but it was caused by it over heating by heater elements. Only 2 working now so half the heat ..so time for a new shower
paul sheriff Hi, how did you get to the pressure relief valve in your creda? I'm getting a different brand next time as they look easy to replace. I can get to one screw but not the other, I've got the water & electrics isolated, I unclipped the shower cylinder, where do I go from there? Any help appreciated.
I wish I could send you a pic of the state of our bathroom, the grout is atrocious (never mind the fact it’s yellow). Can you give some advice on whether you can hide electric shower wiring and copper pipes behind the wall as ours are exposed and it looks horrible. We need to retile.
The obvious answer to that is, yes you can sort it. The over obvious answer is call someone who knows what they are doing. I am confident enough to do DIY on things such as electrics and basic plumbing. If I was ever in doubt though and thought for a second I can not do it safe I would pay a pro. Specially with electrics that can kill you or a family member. Water would be a nightmare if gone wrong and cause damage and a lot but at least will not kill you. Don't mess with electricity if you do not have a clue.
Dude, you're correct in that you need to follow manufacturers instructions. In fact, if you don't follow them regarding the electrical side then you're in breach of the regs. This means ensuring that all showers which you fit have RCD protection, regardless of whether you're replacing an old one. Check Triton's instructions and it says a 30mA RCD "MUST" be installed. An electrician will also test that the RCD works within parameters (if you have one), as well as checking the earth loop impedance (ie. that the earth is actually working within the limits that allow the breaker/fuse to operate). This really isn't a job for someone without the knowledge or test equipment. As the old saying goes...just because it works, doesn't mean it's safe!
@@giggergigger1 only on new circuit installation. You are not required to retrofit an RCD or RCBO to an existing shower circuit if you are swapping the shower like for like.
@@MrWHITTERS8 Actually yes you are. In BS7671 it states manufacturers instructions should be followed and all electric shower manufacturers state the circuit should be protected by an RCD.
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VERY IMPORTANT, always make sure you know where the water pipe and electric cable are running before drilling the screw holes.
absolutely right I was in hysterics waiting for the wall to spring a leak in 😂🤣
What's the easiest way to check this?
If the shower is upstairs go into the loft and look above the cubicle. If the pipe and cable are fed from above you will see them.
Or take off the old unit and you may be able to see which way they are being fed in.
If you cant see due to tiles or whatever you can use a pipe/cable detector.
Generally if they are not fed from above and are fitted correctly they should be either running vertically up, or possibly from the rear if there is a cupboard behind, or a hollow wall. @@red1981uk
Mini metal detector is the way I usually check for wires
@@red1981ukJust whack a screw in there full pelt, if water pi**es out then you have failed, if water doesn't p**s out then BINGO
Excellent video! I was quoted £300 for supply & fit to replace my broken down shower. Watched this and went to screw fix and got a new one for £49 job done.
I want to say thank you. I watched this video a few times and actually did it myself. The plumber wanted £120 just to swap over a shower unit. I did it myself feel really accomplished.
People like you ruining peoples incomes, taking food off his kids plates
@@RMMaryport I’m pretty sure the plumber can get work elsewhere. This man probably has mouths to feed too, hence why he couldn’t spend £120 on something he could do himself.
@@RMMaryport this video is literally to show people how to do it for themselves. If you don’t agree with that then why are you here
@@milkabunny7037 😂 😂
£120 iv been quoted £380 can’t believe it and Plummer only local
Thanks this helped a lot when I replaced my old shower with my new one. The water inlet was a bit of a nightmare to get the nut loose but a bit of vinegar and WD40 eventually loosened the bugger! Saved me a lot of money getting someone else to fit this for me!
Thank you so much for this video.
Never installed an electric shower before.
Now fully operational and working a treat.
It's amazing what you can learn from RUclips ❤
I'm so relieved to see someone with charisma making videos like this, so thank you! I'm not sure I could have managed another dull monotonous DIY video in preparation for doing some work in our house!
Run the shower on cold for 30second after installing or you can blow the thermal cut out.
Why am I watching this in work? I'm not even looking to fit a new shower.
lol, I'm doing exactly the same thing
Lol
😅
Mate you are my hero, have just fit my first change over new shower with your help, I was scared but did the job perfect, I did watch your video about 5 times lol...have subscribed and liked, top man!! 👍👍👍
Just needed to double check everything over with this video. Looks like it's installed now. Thanks for the guide.
00:04:35 is where there is an edit at the hardest part. swiveling the elbow and removing the nut and olive when they are completely seized up.
Your videos have been a superb help this month whilst my dad helps me refit my whole bathroom. You are awesome (and hilarious!) :D
Also worth noting if you get a more powerful shower you may need to uprate the cable. That one however looks like with 6mm or 10mm. Top video man!
thanks a lot I always run to your videos as my shower thermostatic valve is faulty, will have to fit a new shower instead coz it it is an old shower, cheers mate
great video changing my shower tomorrow never done it before but after watching plumberparts i feel confident now many thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you thank you for your tutorial. i have just successfully replaced my old electric shower. yayyyy
what happens to the water that fall on top of the shower unit. Do you need to put silicone around the casing of the shower that meets the wall?
Probably best to in that situation. Given half the tile is missing.
Brilliant video as always thanks 🤩 enjoyed the singing too 🤣🤣
You should be on morning telly with your presenting skills and humour, giving plumbing tips to all the housewives who watch Philip Schofield and co.
Philip Schofield got plenty of time for DIY now!
😂😂😂
@@plumberpartsu absolutely 💯 clown 🤡
Been watching your videos for a while now, very helpful. I found it amusing "if you have a qualified sparky around, to give you a hand" I am the sparks, its the compression joints that fill me with terror! Any way when Travis Perkins (TP) open, next door, I can get the job done! 15mm to 15mm plastic quick fit 90 elbow, repeat....!
Brilliant vid! You are a funny guy, you made learning fun 😂 cheers
Just watched this and picking my new shower up shortly. Fingers crossed it goes to plan.
Hi mate, is your meter set to volts ac above 240v scale when you check isolation ( just to confirm thanks)
Morning James. Love your videos. I've just fitted a new square MK shower pull switch. All is working ok. The red light shows brightly when on. But the red light still glows rather dim when I turn it off. Is that normal? I have turned it off at the consumer board. Please help mate.
Dave.
Not sure. Best ask the guys @artisanelectrics
My Bristan glee electric shower has started to drip out the bottom of the unit when it is switched off. Could you suggest a possible cause and cure please.
Barry from Essex
I love all your videos they are wonderful and so are you and George.
Can you use push fit for the water connection ?
Did you put a new nut and olive on ?
Great help. Thank you 👍🏼
Nice job ❤
Came for the knowledge ... Stayed and subscribed for the amazing energy and funnies ! Good stuff
Liked this video just because it was enjoyable...I SAID ENJOYABLE to watch. Especially your reaction to under the sink 🤣
Good work mate, I have a question for you, today I replaced a triton electric shower for an exact model but it would not get heat the water, have you got any idea to why it’s not heating the water?! Please let me know, many thanks
Hello. What brand/model of shower would you recommend please.
Thanks
Andy
Cheers for that can u tell me what the cables are are they 10mm also are they called 10mm because of the size of the sheath or the individual wire thanks
Video is good, but to be honest, any half decent DIYer should be able to change an electric. What would be much more helpful is a video on changing an electric shower for a thermostatic. I appreciate theres a lot of issues to be considered in this but I'm sure you're the man for the job!!!
Hi, is it a problem if i do not know what is the KW of my previous old Electric Shower? Wish to buy one with 9.5 kw. Any danger to be aware? Thanks for your advices. Warm regards
good stuff. Surprised you didn't mount it to cover those holes....could the water have been fed in from the right?
+Toby Barker Sometimes its just impossible!
what model is the triton shower?
how come u didnt go left into the shower so it was in the same sort of place
was it because the elbow was fouling on the shower head outlet
Clarification please, as a plumber do I need part P to install electric shower units?
To ensure you safely isolate the electrical supply, you also need to prove that your tester is functional (using a proving unit or a known live supply), both before and after you test.
In the video, you did not prove that your tester was functional so it could have been possible that the supply was still live and your tester wasn't working properly.
Enjoyed the plumbing!! 😀
nobody got time for that
@@iz723😂
I’m from Scotland uk I’m not sure where this videos from but an away we have a electric shower just like one in this video but our is called Mira advanced, I don’t know yet what’s going to happen if there going to change it to the same function among one or the newer type ours is old anaway, we pressed the button to switch it on and it just stuck or should I say broke, and our house is council property l, if they do how long would they take to change it?
Hi is there any services valves to stop water coming out
I have an old shower .. It’s shocking .. how do I get more pressure .. upgrade the system or ?
Do you need to seal round the shower for water getting in the back? Thanks for sharing.
Love your work mate, but as a sparky I need to point out that there wasn't an RCD in place there (unless it was hidden away somewhere). Really a sparky should come in to test that circuit and issue a Minor Works Certificate and Building Control Notification Certificate upon completion. An RCD is a must in a bathroom pretty much nowadays.
Hi, do you have a video to show how you completely remove an electric shower and replace it with a mains shower?
Always helpful and good humour. Thank you.
Can you connect the shower to a pressure valve that was put on to stop water flow?
Great video. What's the electrical tester you used? Cheers
Thanks for the informative video 👍. Any reason at all why I wouldn't be able to use a 15mm compression to 1/2" flex to connect an existing isolation valve to a replacement shower rather than fiddle around with new pipe work?
You’d reduce the water pressure as the bore hole of the flexi is typically around 10mm, they are also typically internally constructed of rubber wouldnt be as safe a a copper pipe which is grounded on the water supply (you do still have earth connection to the rcd from the terminal block though)
Thanks for this ima give it a try now
Thanks for the video. It's given me the confidence to have a go myself.
If you add a hose diverter valve to an electric shower...can it cause a prv valve to leak?
Hi mate, the water doesn't stop coming out from the electric shower after closing the water supply - Any Idea why that could happen?
He did not mention that the tank in attic has to be drained after main water supply is turned off.
My inlet from the tank in the roof space comes in at a crazy angle. It's flush to nothing and there isn't any give as the tubing is tough plastic. It won't sit flush with the inlet arm. It's caused leaks and broke the previous showers plastic push on arm. I nearly need two 90 degree arms to make it work. Need to find the right compression fittings to make it work
Bought a new shower and no earth connection (green/yellow) how am I supposed to conect it up
Great video, good advice, you made it look easy and you were funny too!
Love your videos. Seem like it would have covered the old holes if you turned hookup to the left (elbow on unit to the right) any particular reason other than you would have had to loosen it or turn another 1/2 turn?
I was thinking the same thing, the plastic elbow swivelled to the right so that would have covered the old holes.
+craig cope any idea on how he turned the elbow on the copper inlet? would he of had to heat up to loosen the solder and turn the elbow?
+DOSovCOV looks like a compression fitting, just loosen, turn then tighten
Brilliant. That had me cracked up. Now to get the shower.
Hi! Would you tell me what is the model of your shower... it's so silent! I'm gonna change mine
Do you dabble in any Ground Source or Air Source PP?
Thanks for the concepts you have provided here.
I feel i can do this easily but if you fit it yourself (as a lay person) would this invalidate the warranty (for a mira shower)
is it possible to fit 15m pipe (chrome) to mira electric shower
Hi James, enjoyed the video, learned a great deal, wanted to ask, have you covered all the pipe bends??, also, could you do a video on fixed point bending??? multiple bends, Thank you.
Hi mate - not sure if you're still checking comments, but is this subject to Part P?
Hi,your videos are great!very good job!i would like to ask you something,i just bought an electric shower but without knowing nothing about it,i am a little bit afraid of the plumbing part,basically i do have a normal shower tap and the plumbing system works with an electric pump and since i can not afford to spend almost 1000 euro for plumbers etc the only option available was to take out the old tap and from there to the cold side connecting an hose straight to the electric shower,in my mind it should work but im not 100% sure because everytime i connect the pressure washer to that very tap for some reason after 3 second stop working like if the water stop running and the only way to use it without problems is that i need to open another tap (feeded by the water pump) everywhere in the house and keep it open until done,in that way everything works fine and because of this im not 100% sure,im just worried that the electric shower would do the same of the pressure washer...have you any idea if can be done in this way?
your just so knowledgeable and amazing
i would have poured resin over that switched off isolation switch at the electrical board first. Me mum always walks around switching switches back on for ya nicely when ye is working. That cable would boil yr earwax down properly love.
how much should it cost replacing an electrical shower?
The hole mate I was expecting you to say wow there is a spider hahaha
Could anyone please tell if the elec cable is too short.. needs extending in order to be connected to shower,what materials do i need?please itemise. Thanks in advance.
Mate, any recommendations on one of those electric units that provides hot water at point of use I'm building a garden room/man cave including a sink soon and can't make head nor tale of all the mixed reviews. Ever found one you rate for around a ton?
Great channel btw.
Hmmm Kingspan make a good one but I can’t remember how much it is!
Very good Mr Lawrence. Gold sticker for you!
Graham, which electric tester did you use? Can you share a link please?
Great video, Ignore the hateeeeeee,
I find your banter or craic as we NIrish call it good :)
Better than watching some yank harping on, in an infomercial,
Or a boring suited individual droning on in an over produced "how to" video!
Keep up the good work!
hi i have a Creda 550C there is a grey rubber hose inside there is water coming out of it so its now leaking out bottom of shower relife valve i think if block end shower still works not that i have had it on long is there a reset if not how do i fix thanks can upload a video if this helps
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Thanks it OK it was the pressure relief Valve. Replaced it ..but it was caused by it over heating by heater elements. Only 2 working now so half the heat ..so time for a new shower
paul sheriff Hi, how did you get to the pressure relief valve in your creda? I'm getting a different brand next time as they look easy to replace. I can get to one screw but not the other, I've got the water & electrics isolated, I unclipped the shower cylinder, where do I go from there? Any help appreciated.
paul sheriff Done it, yeah my disc was punctured, going to replace, if it happens again going to buy new shower unit.
Is it simple enough to upgrade a 9.5kw shower for a 10.5kw? Thanks
Really handy bro thanks
Anyone recommend an electric shower model that has really good power/flow. That could replace one with crap flow?
I wish I could send you a pic of the state of our bathroom, the grout is atrocious (never mind the fact it’s yellow). Can you give some advice on whether you can hide electric shower wiring and copper pipes behind the wall as ours are exposed and it looks horrible. We need to retile.
The obvious answer to that is, yes you can sort it. The over obvious answer is call someone who knows what they are doing. I am confident enough to do DIY on things such as electrics and basic plumbing. If I was ever in doubt though and thought for a second I can not do it safe I would pay a pro. Specially with electrics that can kill you or a family member. Water would be a nightmare if gone wrong and cause damage and a lot but at least will not kill you. Don't mess with electricity if you do not have a clue.
Hillarious fella grand job
Nice video man
Hi you never said check that you do not drill hole to fit new shower unit near the supply pipe or is that something u have never done
+theCybershot123 I don't understand, your English is awful!
+plumberparts nice video pal. a quick question. how did you turn the elbow on the inlet?
+DOSovCOV Slack it off turn it round and tighten back up.
Tom Clark ah I see, wasn't sure if it was a soldered joint. Thanks
Great video .. Brian Harvey hasn't a patch on you .
Job done. Very funny too. Thanks.
Great vid
Thanks for the video! Very helpful!
Thanks fella
Dude, you're correct in that you need to follow manufacturers instructions. In fact, if you don't follow them regarding the electrical side then you're in breach of the regs.
This means ensuring that all showers which you fit have RCD protection, regardless of whether you're replacing an old one. Check Triton's instructions and it says a 30mA RCD "MUST" be installed. An electrician will also test that the RCD works within parameters (if you have one), as well as checking the earth loop impedance (ie. that the earth is actually working within the limits that allow the breaker/fuse to operate).
This really isn't a job for someone without the knowledge or test equipment. As the old saying goes...just because it works, doesn't mean it's safe!
Hmmm think I have to get someone to install mine.... Fresh install
What should you use to connect to the water inlet? Is it just a compression elbow tightened up straight onto the plastic inlet?
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Great video and informative,thanks.
Great advice 👍
The British plumber version of Bradley Cooper.
This is the sort of comment I LOVE on a video!
Bradley Walsh!
Lol
sort of somewhere between the two :-)
I dont like Bradley Cooper.
no rcbo protection on the shower? someone didnt read the instructions!!!
Nope that’s a 100A DP isolation switch
should be an rcbo on that circuit form the consumer unit or at least at the isolator??
@@giggergigger1 only on new circuit installation. You are not required to retrofit an RCD or RCBO to an existing shower circuit if you are swapping the shower like for like.
@@MrWHITTERS8 would YOU wire a shower in your own home like that; new or retrofit? ! i dont think so!!
@@MrWHITTERS8 Actually yes you are. In BS7671 it states manufacturers instructions should be followed and all electric shower manufacturers state the circuit should be protected by an RCD.
thank you great video
Great video thanks