Another way I cull fish with severe deformities is by feeding them to my convict cichlids but I only do this when the condition is really severe. this way the fish do not get wasted.
I'm extremely interested in this topic... not just the cull selections, but the line breeding, and how that determines the culls, and what fish to breed, throughout each generation! I think It'd be awesome if you did a Livestream about it, so we could ask questions! 😃👍
Awesome advice Peter I too have really hard time to cull. I usually let nature take its course however i do have a mutt tank just like you. Strangely enough i too toss cull type guppies and bettas in a large tank and surprised that they co exist. For me what i do with pure strains guppies is i try to separate females to give birth and keep trio original parents together. Babies are raised separately and sexed early so i can backcross to original father. This way i can 100% confirm which is the father. If the father dies i would select best son and use him to continue the line. Sons and daughters are raised separately so to ensure virgin pure stock. The main issue with community guppy breeding is that the strain can easily reverse back to wild type in very short timeline. So it's crucial to keep breeding stock pure and also line breeding methods. The genetics we see today are a compilation of many dominant recessive and co-dominant genes expressed in phenotype however genotype also influenced the desired results. So it's empirical to keep a rigid breeding system to ensure best outcomes. In community breeding if one chromosome is out of place eg like in dogs genetics you get different types of physical traits in color and body. It's basically a form of cloning. If the genetic sequence has an error in one of the stages that can change the results hence importance of line breeding rather colony. Funny thing is sometimes colony random breeding can have some awesome results but it takes years to try and make a unique trait stable and dominant. When i younger i created crowntail guppies and top sword, dual sword and pin tail, dumbo guppies from one main ancestor by community breeding however i couldn't maintain the line as i didnt know much about proper breeding technique plus the internet wasn't around back them. Lol. You have some Lovely guppies. 👍 Best of luck with breeding.
Tbh i breed guppies myself Over the past few month i lost a lot of fish due to unclean filtration system Now I'm left with around 200 fish And I have both I don't think that a fish that looks like that is kind of a problem If you care for it and treat it well it's gonna live her best life.
Would you say the following is a decent reason to cull fry? Ie, will they get 'better' enough to live as non-breeders or no? 1. Swimming in circles more than once or twice after observation 2. Swimming sideways, bobbing oddly, diagonal swim and drift (I assume bladder issues) 3. Curved spine this is what I've seen with my first breed ever. I had one with some kind of rupture that I put back in the mom tank and that fry was (naturally) eaten. I did the same for 1 obvious case of bent spine but now I'm wondering if that was right, since I'm not sure if bent spines can live decent lives. I have a few with minor bends but bad diagonal and odd swimming that I'm evaluating now.
Hi, thank you for the helpful video! I've only been breeding some mutt guppies for fun as I'm relatively new, and have been fairly lucky so far in that my LFS is happy to take young, and I've only had two deformed ones that lived to a good size, and both were male, so could go into my community tank which only has male guppies. My problem now is that I was given some Mickey mouse platies, which have been breeding in that community tank. Most of their young have been strong and pretty, and also gone to the LFS. But now I've been spotting some deformities, some pretty severe. I don't want any deformed ones to breed (or to suffer) and I don't think my LFS will be thrilled if I give them a bunch of deformed fry either. I really don't have the space or time for two more tanks, so facing having to cull these youngsters with clove oil. Will be gifting the adult platies to the LFS too, so I don't have this problem in the future. Will find space for another 15 gallon to keep as a retirement tank for any deformed female guppies that survive, and the deformed female platies.
Hi i have guppies to but i have a new female who is like that male but is very skinny she eats and seems healthy but is very skinny do you have an idea for what i should do
I would medicate for sure, either a Maracyn or general cure, guppies are very prone to internal parasites and it can be easily taken care of it it’s done quickly. Keep me updated and hope this helps!
At least you can try to feed them to other fish instead of cruelish alternatives, toss them in a tank with a fatty who will be DELIGHTED to have a "guest" MWUAHAHA
Awesome vid ! I would love if u could check out my 55 gallon review, your feedback would mean alot 😀 im new to the game so any tips and info would help.
I'd you don't cull sick or weak fish you will ever eventually end up with tuberculosis running rampant thru your fishroom my dude. Entire hobby ruined. Get rid of weak and bent spine guppies.
@@GuppyGuru I had a single bent spine guppy ruin my entire fishroom for like 2 years before I finally figured it out. Probably gave it to other people too. Pretty soon they all got bent spines or spontaneous develop them and stop eating. No cure. 1 year and 25 aquarium down the drain and hundreds of guppies euthanized over one stupid guppy coz people told me it was just inbreeding!!
Another way I cull fish with severe deformities is by feeding them to my convict cichlids but I only do this when the condition is really severe. this way the fish do not get wasted.
Yep that is a great way if you know the fish are healthy to pass the life on to another
I'm extremely interested in this topic... not just the cull selections, but the line breeding, and how that determines the culls, and what fish to breed, throughout each generation! I think It'd be awesome if you did a Livestream about it, so we could ask questions! 😃👍
The Zen Ginger I am actually working on that exact thing! Gonna bring in an expert breeder and show winner!
@@GuppyGuru Holy Awesomeness! Very cool. Can't wait! 😃
The Zen Ginger me either it will be great!
Great video and topic! I'm loving the insight into line breeding as well as addressing culls!
Hopefully gonna do more like this to give more info on how to keep guppies
Awesome advice Peter
I too have really hard time to cull.
I usually let nature take its course however i do have a mutt tank just like you. Strangely enough i too toss cull type guppies and bettas in a large tank and surprised that they co exist. For me what i do with pure strains guppies is i try to separate females to give birth and keep trio original parents together. Babies are raised separately and sexed early so i can backcross to original father. This way i can 100% confirm which is the father. If the father dies i would select best son and use him to continue the line. Sons and daughters are raised separately so to ensure virgin pure stock.
The main issue with community guppy breeding is that the strain can easily reverse back to wild type in very short timeline. So it's crucial to keep breeding stock pure and also line breeding methods. The genetics we see today are a compilation of many dominant recessive and co-dominant genes expressed in phenotype however genotype also influenced the desired results.
So it's empirical to keep a rigid breeding system to ensure best outcomes. In community breeding if one chromosome is out of place eg like in dogs genetics you get different types of physical traits in color and body. It's basically a form of cloning. If the genetic sequence has an error in one of the stages that can change the results hence importance of line breeding rather colony. Funny thing is sometimes colony random breeding can have some awesome results but it takes years to try and make a unique trait stable and dominant.
When i younger i created crowntail guppies and top sword, dual sword and pin tail, dumbo guppies from one main ancestor by community breeding however i couldn't maintain the line as i didnt know much about proper breeding technique plus the internet wasn't around back them. Lol.
You have some Lovely guppies. 👍
Best of luck with breeding.
Wow my man! Lots of info in that comment!
I have a Jack Dempsey so culling might be a little easier for me lol
Pass The Salt Pleas3 haha yes that is true!
I came to say "Get some Jack Dempseys...." Circle of life.
Tbh i breed guppies myself
Over the past few month i lost a lot of fish due to unclean filtration system
Now I'm left with around 200 fish
And I have both I don't think that a fish that looks like that is kind of a problem
If you care for it and treat it well it's gonna live her best life.
Would you say the following is a decent reason to cull fry? Ie, will they get 'better' enough to live as non-breeders or no? 1. Swimming in circles more than once or twice after observation 2. Swimming sideways, bobbing oddly, diagonal swim and drift (I assume bladder issues) 3. Curved spine
this is what I've seen with my first breed ever. I had one with some kind of rupture that I put back in the mom tank and that fry was (naturally) eaten. I did the same for 1 obvious case of bent spine but now I'm wondering if that was right, since I'm not sure if bent spines can live decent lives. I have a few with minor bends but bad diagonal and odd swimming that I'm evaluating now.
Hi, thank you for the helpful video! I've only been breeding some mutt guppies for fun as I'm relatively new, and have been fairly lucky so far in that my LFS is happy to take young, and I've only had two deformed ones that lived to a good size, and both were male, so could go into my community tank which only has male guppies. My problem now is that I was given some Mickey mouse platies, which have been breeding in that community tank. Most of their young have been strong and pretty, and also gone to the LFS. But now I've been spotting some deformities, some pretty severe. I don't want any deformed ones to breed (or to suffer) and I don't think my LFS will be thrilled if I give them a bunch of deformed fry either. I really don't have the space or time for two more tanks, so facing having to cull these youngsters with clove oil. Will be gifting the adult platies to the LFS too, so I don't have this problem in the future. Will find space for another 15 gallon to keep as a retirement tank for any deformed female guppies that survive, and the deformed female platies.
ScarletAmazon it is for sure one of the hardest things to figure out what to do with deformed fish I don’t like it one bit
Love your videos!!
Sharron Miller thanks Sharron! As always glad you enjoy them!
Hey, have you tried treating your guppies with Praziquantel?
Yes I have, along with fenbendazole and every other med on the market. Prazi pro works wel
Where can I go to buy some guppy’s from you
Juan Reyes saltcityaquatics.com
Hi i have guppies to but i have a new female who is like that male but is very skinny she eats and seems healthy but is very skinny do you have an idea for what i should do
I would medicate for sure, either a Maracyn or general cure, guppies are very prone to internal parasites and it can be easily taken care of it it’s done quickly.
Keep me updated and hope this helps!
Thanx I will i have a youtube channel
thanks i hav one ho is sammer than the aders im not going to kill her of him he is gettin a tank of his one
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I'm the same way, is hard for me to kill my deformed guppies, I'm going to put all my deformed guppies in a 10 gallon tank
At least you can try to feed them to other fish instead of cruelish alternatives, toss them in a tank with a fatty who will be DELIGHTED to have a "guest" MWUAHAHA
Awesome vid ! I would love if u could check out my 55 gallon review, your feedback would mean alot 😀 im new to the game so any tips and info would help.
I’ll go check it out!
I'd you don't cull sick or weak fish you will ever eventually end up with tuberculosis running rampant thru your fishroom my dude. Entire hobby ruined. Get rid of weak and bent spine guppies.
I always do this I have a video on it too
@@GuppyGuru I had a single bent spine guppy ruin my entire fishroom for like 2 years before I finally figured it out. Probably gave it to other people too. Pretty soon they all got bent spines or spontaneous develop them and stop eating. No cure. 1 year and 25 aquarium down the drain and hundreds of guppies euthanized over one stupid guppy coz people told me it was just inbreeding!!
Yeah you have to pull those when you see them. I have a tank for them if they are still doing ok or I use clove oil to cull them
@@GuppyGuru there's so much bad information going on social media its like we would be better off without it
That is true