Nice review Jordan, the RX100 IV looks like a beast. One thing you didn't mention was the 5 mins max recording time at 4K and overheating. A lot of users have been complaining about recording in 4K and how the camera shuts down to cool off. Was this an issue for you?
SuperSaf TV 5 minutes 4K limit is there for a reason, it is small pocket sized stills camera that shoots 4K video. You can't expect it to just push record after 5 minutes, it needs to cool off. For 29 minutes check out RX 10.2, or AX100 if you need camcorder.
Tony Yes 5 min limit should be mentioned, but all complaints I have seen so far are from people who expect to run camera in 5 min. increments without any stops between
See that's the thing, some users that aren't using it continually for 5 mins but in segments are still facing heating issues. That was the basis of the question (e.g. how many 1 min 4K clips can you do till it heats up)
SuperSaf TV that would depend on the cooling down time between the shots. If you want 4k recording for longer periods it's simple. For now get a larger body like the RX10-2. This way you will also get solid external audio. The RX-100 is a pocket camera that packs the punch of a hollywood grade cinema camera. Some compromises had to be made to make this exceptional product possible.
Jordan has grown so confident and professional as a presenter. I always liked the guy and the video input was always great, but he really used to need Chris to balance him out. Now he totally holds his own! Still, looking forward to an a7r II review with both these guys.
I bought the RX100 IV. I'm upgrading from the old Sony Cybershot DSC-W80 that I had nearly 10 years ago. It has lasted me a long time. I'm a musician. Rocksubculture and other musician websites recommended the RX100 IV in their best cameras lists. I'm so excited to take use of it to record gigs and some music videos. Thank you for this wonderful review!
Nice review. Two quick things: (1) you can put Picture Profile into the function menu, so you can access S-Log2 without having to go into the main menu, and (2) Memory Recall is quite effective at remembering a lot of the settings, so I use it to quickly change between stills and different video modes. That said, I agree with your overall point that more features means even more burden on the limited buttons/dials/ergonomics. I'd prefer if the dials were more customizable (per shooting mode, e.g.), if different video modes/frame rates could be placed in the Fn menu, and other UI improvements as well (why does Center Lock-on AF work in video, but not Lock-on AF: Center, e.g.?). Cheers.
Great review. I just picked this camera up 2 days ago. Being a rookie in terms of photography, I found the features and menus to be overwhelming. With that said, practice makes perfect and I have been blown away by the quality of stills and videos that others have taken using this beast.
Dee Jimenez Best thing to do is customize the quick menu once you get a feel for most of the features. With all the settings, it can be difficult to choose what goes where. It even perplexed me a bit , coming from a Sony A6000 which has the same interface (though 1 extra button and dial). I even had to use the Memory Recalls for things like standard and HFR video, and I never use memory presets on my cameras (never had the need).
Christian Fiore Thanks for the tip. I'll look into that. It'll take a while for me to adjust since I'm such a novice. I'll get better with time. Thanks again.
OKay, so I am in big trouble here. I saw the Panasonic FZ1000 review and the image quality with all the features in it, 4K video, 5 axis stabilization, 120 FPS slow mo in 1080, it just blew me away, then I found this. Now here are my requirements: 1. Lots of handheld video vlogging or product review cinematics. (FZ1000 I loved) don't know if this has the same 5 axis stabilization 2. Slow mo shots because I do a lot of action filming. (1080- 240 on this camera is Gold but 2 seconds is not enough for me) The 960 frames per second believe it or not is actually useful for people like me! There 2 seconds is enough. 3. I hate that this is a compact camera, I am more in love with the Bulkier FZ1000 4. No external mic output in this vs the the FZ1000 which can mount a rode on it and take the input. 5. Which has better video quality? in 1080 60 and 4k mode?
I haven't been watching for a while, but where did Jordan and Chris go?? Their reviews and field tests were awesome and I liked their dynamic. Come back!!
This was a great review Jordan. Well done! I loved your honesty with the viewfinder. Totally makes sense and glad someone is being realistic about it instead of just claiming how amazing it is without actually using it. Cheers!
Good review, I learned some stuff. Being a still photographer with limited video experience, I have to look into S-Log or was it V-Log, argh! Now have to watch again and take notes.
The amount of technology packed into this little camera is just insane, Sony is charging a premium price for it because they did an outstanding job in R&D and today there is simply nothing like it in the market.
Finally finally finally finally Finally finally finally finally the video we've beeb waiting for. Well at least 1/3 because I want the a7rii and RX10 review also.
Jordan you're getting better and better in front of the camera my friend. As long as you don't lose ALL of your goofy awkwardness I think we'll still love you :)
Loved the change in anchor and clearly Chris is not happy being behind the camera :D. Just look at the camera more while presenting and also pause to make a few faces and breathers :)
Excellent review. A new camera from Sony is always an exciting time, even if I've got no plans to upgrade... just great to see Sony pushing the boundaries yet again. Looking forward to the RX10 Mk2 review!
After buying the RX100 IV for the 4K video I've been disappointed that on the 4K setting you are restricted to the Standard Steadyshot setting whereas if you select 1080p you get Intelligent Steadyshot which is much better. Consequently my 4K video has been so shaky and hardly usable. I hope there's a firmware update coming to fix that. For the price I paid I expected more from the 4K.
S787iFly I'm guessing it's either a processor limitation, or the high level stabilization uses sensor-based stabilization as well as body/lens stabilization.
I own the Leica D Lux Type 109 and first of all not mentioned in your review is that the Sony is limited to 5 mnts video recording due to overheating issues. The Leica can record up to 15 mnts plus it has a bigger sensor and low light performance bokeh is better.
Okay, now THIS is the review we've been waiting for. Aaaand, of course, someone will chime in and say, "Nah, we're REALLY waiting for the A7ii review." :p
Will B With what the A7S and A7R II can do, I can honestly say the A7S II is almost certainly going to be a camera we can safely buy without reading any reviews.
You said phase detect auto focus, sorry your wrong the lV has contrast detect with 25 auto focus points, it wasn't until the release of the V that phase detect was introduced along with 315 focus points
Jared you mention using VLog on the GH4 while shooting this. As fas I can see the VLog update is still not available. Great that Panasonic gives it to reviewers but I wonder why they still haven't released it to the public?
The Camera Store Jordan, two questions: 1. Doesn`t the the Sony RX100IV (as other Sony RX100 and Sony more recent cameras) have MR - Memory Recall? I mention this because of the usability issue you mention about being able to quickly switch between different Video and Stills mode settings (something I have to deal with having a Sony Nex 7 which is frustrating and extremely limiting to use for photo and video work at the same time because there is no way to store video and stills settings or recall them). I haven`t used MR in any Sony camera but I would think it would allow to do this, say set stills settings on one bank and on the next video settings so one can switch quickly between them? 2. Is 1080p video (internal) as good or better in this camera as Sony RX100 III? Thanx for review
As far as I know, there's no phase detection on it, at least they didn't advertise it. And can you tell us the settings for both images where you compared the still image dynamic range?
Dynamic range: Thanks a lot for the review!! I was particularly struck by your comparison to the predecessor regarding the noise in the recovered shadows! After looking for raw files from both cameras on the internet and bringing up the shadows I was not able to see this effect. The amount of noise looked about the same to me. That's why I would like to ask you, if it's not too much trouble, would you mind sharing the pictures you presented in the video? Thank you ever so much!
Awesome review as always! A bit disappointed there was no mention of the 5 minute record limit on 4K (and reported overheating issues making subsequent recordings after the first 5 mins even shorter).
Witch one is better to make daily Vlog this spesific sony in you hand or the Canon 70d I am trying to make up my mind in between both cams, I travel a lot please any advices?
Jordan I agree with Jean, Great review. The best I've seen from any information source I've looked at. By coming at the camera from the point of view of practical use - I thought was stellar.
Great Review Jordan! Thanks for bringing up so many practical points for the targeted user. You also brought to my attention the UI... I enjoy shooting both Video and stills, bouncing back and forth does seem like a bit of pain, but I still agree with your opinion that the pros outweigh the cons and this is the best pocket camera option, currently on the market.
Thank you for your nice reviews on the RX100-series! I really liked watching them. Could you please help me decide between the RX100 M3 or M4? I don't care about filming in 4K, I will just use 1080p. Is the filming quality in 1080p and photo quality of the M3 the same as the M4? And as there a difference between the internal audio quality and focus speed? Thank you in advance.
Did you notice any overheating on the sensor? Other reviewers have noticed that after a few 5 minute clips of recording 4k, the camera overheats and locks up.
SenoreQueso This is small pocket sized stills camera that shoots 5 min. of 4K, not a camcorder. You can't expect it to record consecutive 5 minutes clips without overheating. Sony RX10 II will give you 29:59 4K clips without overheating, and Sony AX100 (camcorder) will shoot 4K till your card is full or battery dead.
What a fantastic review, the best one for sure, on point. I cannot decide betwen mIV and mIII, is there any difference in picture quality? I am more into still photography?
Mild gargle 4k footage in 5 mins and 960p in horrid resolution? I am sorry, the only 'neat' feature in this camera is the S-Log2 and 2 second of 1080p240 Other than that you pay a price for this camera you can spend on other that does these things better but in a bigger package. Fuck, at least the NX500 has 4k in 15 minutes and an APS-C sensor...
Great videography Chris! Maybe you guys should delve into the video side of this RX100 a bit more, it looked great. BTW, do you guys go to -5 on sharpness and NR on the GH4 photo style?
Great review Jordan - getting better and better. Sound was excellent - would love to know what you use for equipment and workflow. I can never get sound that sounds that good.
MoCoRealEstate I used a Sony UWP-D11 wireless system run directly into the Panasonic GH4. I use a Rode Invisilav to hide the mic. Simple, and it works great! Jordan @ TCSTV
Nice solo vid man, well done. Really great to get a hands on experience review. I like you am often video focussed and on paper these guys do seem to have it all, so I was quite interested in the switching between modes rigmarole there. Thanks for the heads up! (From New Zealand!)
One correction needed here. The RX100 IV doesn't have phase detect focusing. The feature didn't arrive until the Mark V. This is not to say that the Mark IV struggles with autofocus; it's good enough to make Jordan believe it does have phase detect.
I've seen lots of vids with cam overheating in 4k mode at about the 8-10min mark (run 5, hit record again) and with continues HFR shooting... How hot to the touch does this cam get overtime, did you find the heat warnings cut into your usage?
Great review! Very in-depth review on this camera, answers every question I had. Movie mistake: 5:13 - "I didn't touch anything" 0:53 - "It's ashamed to see great art treated this way" 1:00 - sitting on an old TV :)
Hi I`m looking for compact camera to photography and on the second place to video. Which one is better RX100 IV or G7X MK3? I`m looking for good usable ISO to take picture from hand when light is not enough. It should be small to get evrywhere like to ride bicycle. Always a do street photography or landscape. Thank You :)
I'm debating whether I should take the RX-100 IV or the LX-100. I'm looking at the LX-100 because of the larger sensor and the higher amount of control dials. You would expect some shallower depth of field while using the LX-100. Why do you think the RX-100 is the better camera? Is it just for video (I'm not very interested in video) or for still photography also?
Another great review. Thanks! I love the performance of that thing, but honestly, it looked like you were gonna drop it all the time LOL! I hate such small form factors. But that's just my personal opinion. Those menu issues would drive me mad.
I know it's probably a dumb question, but since you can't connect external audio, exactly how good is the built in Mic? by that I mean even though it may not be great is it significantly better than say the recording mic of your standard Iphone?
Rohite ® 5 minutes 4K limit is there for a reason, it is small pocket sized stills camera that shoots 4K video. You can't expect it to just push record after 5 minutes, it needs to cool off. For 29 minutes check out RX 10.2, or AX100 if you need camcorder.
yes i m aware of it but since the video title was about 'hands on FIELD test' i was hoping they would show the problem and how the camera acts when it does overheat since i haven't had any issues with my previous cameras overheating. Just a feedback from myself but nonetheless a very good review from the channel which i highly rate.
Rohite ® You'll get an icon on the top center of the display once temps get too hot. The camera will still record, but it'll shut off soon. Then you won't be able to record for a while. And even if you can, your recording time will be much shorter than the 5 min limit.
Although it's not pocket-sized, the new Sony RX10 III may be the perfect solution for someone wanting great stills and 4K video in one relatively compact package. It has the same sensor as the RX100 IV and an amazing 24-600mm (35mm equivalent) f2.4-4 super zoom. For me, it may be the perfect travel "bush" camera. It comes out in about 2 1/2 weeks and can be had for $1498 from B & H Photo, for example. I'm looking forward to seeing what these guys think of it.
igodua guvenc This is small pocket sized stills camera that shoots 5 min. of 4K, not a camcorder. You can't expect it to record consecutive 5 minutes clips without overheating. Sony RX10 II will give you 29 min. 4K clips without overheating, and Sony AX100 (camcorder) will shoot 4K till your card is full or battery dead.
Hello, thank you for your video. I am a musician, is there a plug jack on the Sony rx 100 M4 so that I can plug my zoom H1 while recording video. Thank you
Hey chris! I know this is off topic, but i didnt know who else to ask! If i have an old film slr, and im in mid-roll of film, and i changed lenses, would i waste that current frame of film? Or would i waste a couple of frames cuz or light leaks?
Andika Hartawan OBELIXCMM is absolutely right. Also if you want to get particularly daring and change ISO mid way through you can rewind your film mid roll and then reload it at a later date by shooting through with a lens cap on. Its risky stuff and you need to take notes on where you left off... maybe better to ignore this and never try it... Chris @ TCSTV
Hi Andika, Ya I wouldn't know about this but I think the guys above know what they are talking about. Hope all is well with you brother man! See you soon, Chris
TheCameraStoreTV Just got an idea for an AF test Since you guys are from calgary has it been possible to go to the olympic ice arena for 400m skating. A great venue that saw a lot of world records broken These guys move very consistently lap after lap especially at long distances liek 5-10 kilometre. It would give a real world scenario with great constistency that would give reliable results for different systems we see today. If you can get into the press ring it would also be easy to test side to side from the straight and straigth towards you from the corners.
What media does it record on? Is there any limit to the video recording time? 29 minutes (this kills it for me) What kind of battery does it use? 1x NP-BX1 Rechargeable Lithium-Ion Battery Pack, 3.6 VDC, 1240 mAh Is the battery removable?
Thanks Jordan @ TheCameraStore. I often record events with my GH4 that records 4K until the card is full, about 1.5 hours on a 64GB card. Also records 3.5 hours on one battery charge. I'd love to get a second angle, so that's what I'm looking for. ObelixCMM, I'd love a camcorder, just haven't found the right one at the right price. GH4 is hard to beat for $1600. Sony A7s would do too, but costs more. Thanks all for responding.
Does anyone know if the flash can be set in auto when using shutter priority, aperture priority, or manual modes? I know my a6000 flash was only manual in these models which really killed the camera for me
Grate review. You guys are doing the best camera reviews on RUclips. Keep up the great work. I'll keep watching.
Nice review Jordan, the RX100 IV looks like a beast. One thing you didn't mention was the 5 mins max recording time at 4K and overheating. A lot of users have been complaining about recording in 4K and how the camera shuts down to cool off. Was this an issue for you?
SuperSaf TV 5 minutes 4K limit is there for a reason, it is small pocket sized stills camera that shoots 4K video. You can't expect it to just push record after 5 minutes, it needs to cool off. For 29 minutes check out RX 10.2, or AX100 if you need camcorder.
ObelixCMM We all agree on the technical reasons, but still, it's something that should be mentioned.
Tony Yes 5 min limit should be mentioned, but all complaints I have seen so far are from people who expect to run camera in 5 min. increments without any stops between
See that's the thing, some users that aren't using it continually for 5 mins but in segments are still facing heating issues. That was the basis of the question (e.g. how many 1 min 4K clips can you do till it heats up)
SuperSaf TV
that would depend on the cooling down time between the shots.
If you want 4k recording for longer periods it's simple. For now get a larger body like the RX10-2. This way you will also get solid external audio.
The RX-100 is a pocket camera that packs the punch of a hollywood grade cinema camera. Some compromises had to be made to make this exceptional product possible.
Jordan has grown so confident and professional as a presenter. I always liked the guy and the video input was always great, but he really used to need Chris to balance him out. Now he totally holds his own!
Still, looking forward to an a7r II review with both these guys.
Great review, Jordan! TCS' reviews are getting better and better :)
I bought the RX100 IV. I'm upgrading from the old Sony Cybershot DSC-W80 that I had nearly 10 years ago. It has lasted me a long time. I'm a musician. Rocksubculture and other musician websites recommended the RX100 IV in their best cameras lists. I'm so excited to take use of it to record gigs and some music videos. Thank you for this wonderful review!
one of the best channel around. Very informative especially the description at the bottom of every video and photos.
Nice review. Two quick things: (1) you can put Picture Profile into the function menu, so you can access S-Log2 without having to go into the main menu, and (2) Memory Recall is quite effective at remembering a lot of the settings, so I use it to quickly change between stills and different video modes. That said, I agree with your overall point that more features means even more burden on the limited buttons/dials/ergonomics. I'd prefer if the dials were more customizable (per shooting mode, e.g.), if different video modes/frame rates could be placed in the Fn menu, and other UI improvements as well (why does Center Lock-on AF work in video, but not Lock-on AF: Center, e.g.?). Cheers.
Really well done!
You guys do killer reviews. You're honest and review the cameras as it would be used accordingly. Thanks as always.
Great review. I just picked this camera up 2 days ago. Being a rookie in terms of photography, I found the features and menus to be overwhelming. With that said, practice makes perfect and I have been blown away by the quality of stills and videos that others have taken using this beast.
Dee Jimenez Best thing to do is customize the quick menu once you get a feel for most of the features. With all the settings, it can be difficult to choose what goes where. It even perplexed me a bit , coming from a Sony A6000 which has the same interface (though 1 extra button and dial). I even had to use the Memory Recalls for things like standard and HFR video, and I never use memory presets on my cameras (never had the need).
Christian Fiore Thanks for the tip. I'll look into that. It'll take a while for me to adjust since I'm such a novice. I'll get better with time. Thanks again.
OKay, so I am in big trouble here.
I saw the Panasonic FZ1000 review and the image quality with all the features in it, 4K video, 5 axis stabilization, 120 FPS slow mo in 1080, it just blew me away, then I found this.
Now here are my requirements:
1. Lots of handheld video vlogging or product review cinematics. (FZ1000 I loved) don't know if this has the same 5 axis stabilization
2. Slow mo shots because I do a lot of action filming. (1080- 240 on this camera is Gold but 2 seconds is not enough for me)
The 960 frames per second believe it or not is actually useful for people like me! There 2 seconds is enough.
3. I hate that this is a compact camera, I am more in love with the Bulkier FZ1000
4. No external mic output in this vs the the FZ1000 which can mount a rode on it and take the input.
5. Which has better video quality? in 1080 60 and 4k mode?
I haven't been watching for a while, but where did Jordan and Chris go?? Their reviews and field tests were awesome and I liked their dynamic. Come back!!
They’re producing episodes for DPReview’s RUclips channel now.
@@TheCameraStoreTV Thanks!!
This was a great review Jordan. Well done! I loved your honesty with the viewfinder. Totally makes sense and glad someone is being realistic about it instead of just claiming how amazing it is without actually using it. Cheers!
Nice review, and it's pretty awesome too that some stranger didn't lick the camera this time.
I enjoy your honest reviews. I'm thinking of picking one up. the iii and IV comparison helped with the deciding factor. keep up the good work!
Good review, I learned some stuff. Being a still photographer with limited video experience, I have to look into S-Log or was it V-Log, argh! Now have to watch again and take notes.
Ron Paulk
Sony = S-Log
Panasonic = V-Log
SUPERB review, guys! Also, hat tip to Jordan. Well done!
Really nice complete video, good one Jordan.
Great review - thanks!
Best review on the rx100m4 yet, thanks!
The amount of technology packed into this little camera is just insane, Sony is charging a premium price for it because they did an outstanding job in R&D and today there is simply nothing like it in the market.
Thanks for the RX100 IV video!!
Finally finally finally finally Finally finally finally finally the video we've beeb waiting for. Well at least 1/3 because I want the a7rii and RX10 review also.
Mild gargle Shooting RX10 II tomorrow, A7RII next weekend. Stay tuned!
Jordan @ TCSTV
TheCameraStoreTV Can't wait ^^
TheCameraStoreTV Holy crap can't wait for your guys' A7R II review!
TheCameraStoreTV Can't wait for the A7R mark ii review.
TheCameraStoreTV Great!
Jordan you're getting better and better in front of the camera my friend. As long as you don't lose ALL of your goofy awkwardness I think we'll still love you :)
Thanks for sharing this. I saw your video on Canon G7X M2. Can you please let me know which you find better among the 2?
Thanks for the review, been waiting to see this... RX100 IV ordered...
Loved the change in anchor and clearly Chris is not happy being behind the camera :D. Just look at the camera more while presenting and also pause to make a few faces and breathers :)
Hey guys!
How does the rx100 iv compared to the Panasonic lx100 in terms of low light video?
Excellent review. A new camera from Sony is always an exciting time, even if I've got no plans to upgrade... just great to see Sony pushing the boundaries yet again. Looking forward to the RX10 Mk2 review!
After buying the RX100 IV for the 4K video I've been disappointed that on the 4K setting you are restricted to the Standard Steadyshot setting whereas if you select 1080p you get Intelligent Steadyshot which is much better. Consequently my 4K video has been so shaky and hardly usable. I hope there's a firmware update coming to fix that. For the price I paid I expected more from the 4K.
S787iFly thanks for that info.
Thanks for this. I was wondering why my 4k was so shaky
S787iFly I'm guessing it's either a processor limitation, or the high level stabilization uses sensor-based stabilization as well as body/lens stabilization.
Either way you would think that they would address that before releasing the feature.
+S787iFly Get a camera stabilizer.
I own the Leica D Lux Type 109 and first of all not mentioned in your review is that the Sony is limited to 5 mnts video recording due to overheating issues. The Leica can record up to 15 mnts plus it has a bigger sensor and low light performance bokeh is better.
***** RX 100.4 is much smaller camera, Leica 118mm X 66mm X 55mm vs Sony 102mm X 58mm X 41MM
***** 5mins in 4k only 4k it over heats
Great review TheCameraStoreTV Jordan!
Looking forward to RX10 II and A7R II
Okay, now THIS is the review we've been waiting for.
Aaaand, of course, someone will chime in and say, "Nah, we're REALLY waiting for the A7ii review." :p
mcrazza Nah, we're REALLY waiting for the A7ii review.
mcrazza Nah, we're REALLY waiting for the A7Sii review (When they announce that camera)
mcrazza "Nah, we're REALLY waiting for the A7ii review."
No we are waiting for A7RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR II review ;)
Will B With what the A7S and A7R II can do, I can honestly say the A7S II is almost certainly going to be a camera we can safely buy without reading any reviews.
genjii931 Yer I agree, but I'd like to see what they have to say about it as the Sony A is maturing nicely. Sony taking a page from Fujifilm.
Very helpful review Jordan.
You said phase detect auto focus, sorry your wrong the lV has contrast detect with 25 auto focus points, it wasn't until the release of the V that phase detect was introduced along with 315 focus points
Hello TCSTV, will the Mark V come out very soon?
just subbed. great channel. what camera to you recommend for a still and video compact camera for quality
Jared you mention using VLog on the GH4 while shooting this. As fas I can see the VLog update is still not available. Great that Panasonic gives it to reviewers but I wonder why they still haven't released it to the public?
The Camera Store Jordan, two questions:
1. Doesn`t the the Sony RX100IV (as other Sony RX100 and Sony more recent cameras) have MR - Memory Recall? I mention this because of the usability issue you mention about being able to quickly switch between different Video and Stills mode settings (something I have to deal with having a Sony Nex 7 which is frustrating and extremely limiting to use for photo and video work at the same time because there is no way to store video and stills settings or recall them). I haven`t used MR in any Sony camera but I would think it would allow to do this, say set stills settings on one bank and on the next video settings so one can switch quickly between them?
2. Is 1080p video (internal) as good or better in this camera as Sony RX100 III?
Thanx for review
The RX100 IV's sensor can do phase detection? I don't see that spec listed anywhere.
1:40. I'm pretty sure the IV has contrast detect not phase.
As far as I know, there's no phase detection on it, at least they didn't advertise it.
And can you tell us the settings for both images where you compared the still image dynamic range?
Dynamic range:
Thanks a lot for the review!! I was particularly struck by your comparison to the predecessor regarding the noise in the recovered shadows! After looking for raw files from both cameras on the internet and bringing up the shadows I was not able to see this effect. The amount of noise looked about the same to me. That's why I would like to ask you, if it's not too much trouble, would you mind sharing the pictures you presented in the video? Thank you ever so much!
Awesome review as always! A bit disappointed there was no mention of the 5 minute record limit on 4K (and reported overheating issues making subsequent recordings after the first 5 mins even shorter).
Interested in how the RX100IV stacks up against the new Fuji x70? Any plans on a comparison video review in regards?
And this should be the gold standard for camera reviews. Jordan should have dropped a mic at the end
Couldn't you use the memory recall function to switch between shooting modes?
Witch one is better to make daily Vlog this spesific sony in you hand or the Canon 70d I am trying to make up my mind in between both cams, I travel a lot please any advices?
Jordan
I agree with Jean, Great review. The best I've seen from any information source I've looked at. By coming at the camera from the point of view of practical use - I thought was stellar.
I wasas nearly sold on the Rx100iv until I saw the new Lumix TZ101 specs. Would love to see Jordan and Chris review that.............(fingers crossed)
Great Review Jordan! Thanks for bringing up so many practical points for the targeted user. You also brought to my attention the UI... I enjoy shooting both Video and stills, bouncing back and forth does seem like a bit of pain, but I still agree with your opinion that the pros outweigh the cons and this is the best pocket camera option, currently on the market.
Thank you for your nice reviews on the RX100-series! I really liked watching them.
Could you please help me decide between the RX100 M3 or M4? I don't care about filming in 4K, I will just use 1080p. Is the filming quality in 1080p and photo quality of the M3 the same as the M4? And as there a difference between the internal audio quality and focus speed? Thank you in advance.
Did you notice any overheating on the sensor? Other reviewers have noticed that after a few 5 minute clips of recording 4k, the camera overheats and locks up.
SenoreQueso This is small pocket sized stills camera that shoots 5 min. of 4K, not a camcorder. You can't expect it to record consecutive 5 minutes clips without overheating. Sony RX10 II will give you 29:59 4K clips without overheating, and Sony AX100 (camcorder) will shoot 4K till your card is full or battery dead.
Best pocket camera hands down.
No one shows the 1080/60p (regular motion) footage for this camera. Been looking all over but can't find it.
What a fantastic review, the best one for sure, on point. I cannot decide betwen mIV and mIII, is there any difference in picture quality? I am more into still photography?
use memory-recall to switch back and forward between preset.
Can't wait for the RX10 II review. Prices in Europe are through the roof tho :-(
TheMaydayFlyers It's because it's features are out of this world.
TheMaydayFlyers I'm waiting for that review too !! :)
Mild gargle No they are not.
***** Yeah Uh
Mild gargle 4k footage in 5 mins and 960p in horrid resolution? I am sorry, the only 'neat' feature in this camera is the S-Log2 and 2 second of 1080p240
Other than that you pay a price for this camera you can spend on other that does these things better but in a bigger package.
Fuck, at least the NX500 has 4k in 15 minutes and an APS-C sensor...
can you not use memory to save the settings for video and photo?
Can you shoot still bursts with electronic shutter?
Great videography Chris!
Maybe you guys should delve into the video side of this RX100 a bit more, it looked great.
BTW, do you guys go to -5 on sharpness and NR on the GH4 photo style?
I know there is mark 5 and 6. IT is worth paying for 5? Is 250 dollars more.
Maybe I missed it, but how is the in-camera mic compared to the G7X Mk2?
Great review Jordan - getting better and better. Sound was excellent - would love to know what you use for equipment and workflow. I can never get sound that sounds that good.
MoCoRealEstate I used a Sony UWP-D11 wireless system run directly into the Panasonic GH4. I use a Rode Invisilav to hide the mic. Simple, and it works great!
Jordan @ TCSTV
TheCameraStoreTV That's awesome - thanks for the info Jordan.
Nice solo vid man, well done.
Really great to get a hands on experience review. I like you am often video focussed and on paper these guys do seem to have it all, so I was quite interested in the switching between modes rigmarole there. Thanks for the heads up!
(From New Zealand!)
Richand Fleur Jackson Not solo, Chris was recording ;)
The Right guy for this review
Does this burn through the battery just as bad at 240-960 or does it last longer at the lower framerates? 20min ain't much
One correction needed here. The RX100 IV doesn't have phase detect focusing. The feature didn't arrive until the Mark V. This is not to say that the Mark IV struggles with autofocus; it's good enough to make Jordan believe it does have phase detect.
I've seen lots of vids with cam overheating in 4k mode at about the 8-10min mark (run 5, hit record again) and with continues HFR shooting... How hot to the touch does this cam get overtime, did you find the heat warnings cut into your usage?
At long last! I hope you'll soon have hands on review on RX10II and A7RII
XtrAMassivE Shooting the RX10 II video tomorrow! Follow us on Instagram (thecamerastoretv) to see some BTS images.
Jordan @ TCSTV
TheCameraStoreTV
awesome, following already!
TheCameraStoreTV Shooting tomorrow, so we can expect it posted early Tuesday morning ;)
Great review! Very in-depth review on this camera, answers every question I had. Movie mistake:
5:13 - "I didn't touch anything"
0:53 - "It's ashamed to see great art treated this way"
1:00 - sitting on an old TV
:)
It's being said over the Internet that this camera overheats when shot in 4K. Did you come across with any of this issue?
it is good camera for point and shoot camera??btw how about auto image quality?
will there be RX100 V review?
thanks
That little pocket rocket is sweet!
Is this good for low light video? How does t compare to RX10 low light video quality? Thanks
Hi I`m looking for compact camera to photography and on the second place to video. Which one is better RX100 IV or G7X MK3? I`m looking for good usable ISO to take picture from hand when light is not enough. It should be small to get evrywhere like to ride bicycle. Always a do street photography or landscape. Thank You :)
I'm debating whether I should take the RX-100 IV or the LX-100. I'm looking at the LX-100 because of the larger sensor and the higher amount of control dials. You would expect some shallower depth of field while using the LX-100. Why do you think the RX-100 is the better camera? Is it just for video (I'm not very interested in video) or for still photography also?
BaronVince LX-100 sensor is not that much bigger, it is 4/3 sensor but it is never used in its full size
For vlogging, would you recommend this camera over the Canon 80D?
Excellent job in the video! Thanks.
Another great review. Thanks!
I love the performance of that thing, but honestly, it looked like you were gonna drop it all the time LOL! I hate such small form factors. But that's just my personal opinion. Those menu issues would drive me mad.
Ungrade or graded function are in the gh5 ????
I know it's probably a dumb question, but since you can't connect external audio, exactly how good is the built in Mic? by that I mean even though it may not be great is it significantly better than say the recording mic of your standard Iphone?
no mention about the 4K overheating + 5 minute limit issue? or was it a problem just for some?
Rohite ® 5 minutes 4K limit is there for a reason, it is small pocket sized stills camera that shoots 4K video. You can't expect it to just push record after 5 minutes, it needs to cool off. For 29 minutes check out RX 10.2, or AX100 if you need camcorder.
yes i m aware of it but since the video title was about 'hands on FIELD test' i was hoping they would show the problem and how the camera acts when it does overheat since i haven't had any issues with my previous cameras overheating. Just a feedback from myself but nonetheless a very good review from the channel which i highly rate.
Rohite ® You'll get an icon on the top center of the display once temps get too hot. The camera will still record, but it'll shut off soon. Then you won't be able to record for a while. And even if you can, your recording time will be much shorter than the 5 min limit.
Although it's not pocket-sized, the new Sony RX10 III may be the perfect solution for someone wanting great stills and 4K video in one relatively compact package. It has the same sensor as the RX100 IV and an amazing 24-600mm (35mm equivalent) f2.4-4 super zoom.
For me, it may be the perfect travel "bush" camera. It comes out in about 2 1/2 weeks and can be had for $1498 from B & H Photo, for example.
I'm looking forward to seeing what these guys think of it.
Thanks Jordan. Loads of info! Amazing little camera.
What tripod or mini tripod would you recommend for the Sony RX100 IV?
but what camera is this which you have shot the video ?
Please explain me a little bit about ungrade and graded
Superb review of a great camera!
where the heck is the rx10 ii and the a7r ii review???
yesterday you said tomorrow
Does that two second limit also apply to the 120fps mode as well?
Zess Devon No you can do 1080p 120fps for 29 minutes.
Valère Thanks. I think I just found my next camera.
I love your reviews but its strange that you havent spent any word on heating problems on 4K
igodua guvenc This is small pocket sized stills camera that shoots 5 min. of 4K, not a camcorder. You can't expect it to record consecutive 5 minutes clips without overheating. Sony RX10 II will give you 29 min. 4K clips without overheating, and Sony AX100 (camcorder) will shoot 4K till your card is full or battery dead.
Hello, thank you for your video. I am a musician, is there a plug jack on the Sony rx 100 M4 so that I can plug my zoom H1 while recording video. Thank you
Great review. Really really good. Thanks guys.
Hey chris! I know this is off topic, but i didnt know who else to ask! If i have an old film slr, and im in mid-roll of film, and i changed lenses, would i waste that current frame of film? Or would i waste a couple of frames cuz or light leaks?
Andika Hartawan You will not loose any frames, shutter is closed and blocking light path to film.
ObelixCMM awesome! Thank you!!
Andika Hartawan OBELIXCMM is absolutely right. Also if you want to get particularly daring and change ISO mid way through you can rewind your film mid roll and then reload it at a later date by shooting through with a lens cap on. Its risky stuff and you need to take notes on where you left off... maybe better to ignore this and never try it...
Chris @ TCSTV
Hi Andika,
Ya I wouldn't know about this but I think the guys above know what they are talking about. Hope all is well with you brother man!
See you soon,
Chris
Feels nice to see a long, detailed review without the phrase "That being said", being said. Oh wait, spoke too soon. 10:22
Omar Carrasquillo Dammit!
Jordan @ TCSTV
Jordan,
What would you do to make Sony implement a manual video mode like Panasonic's that remembers you last used settings on this little fellow?
1barnet1 Terrible, terrible things.
Jordan @ TCSTV
TheCameraStoreTV
Just got an idea for an AF test
Since you guys are from calgary has it been possible to go to the olympic ice arena for 400m skating.
A great venue that saw a lot of world records broken
These guys move very consistently lap after lap especially at long distances liek 5-10 kilometre.
It would give a real world scenario with great constistency that would give reliable results for different systems we see today.
If you can get into the press ring it would also be easy to test side to side from the straight and straigth towards you from the corners.
What media does it record on?
Is there any limit to the video recording time? 29 minutes (this kills it for me)
What kind of battery does it use? 1x NP-BX1 Rechargeable Lithium-Ion Battery Pack, 3.6 VDC, 1240 mAh
Is the battery removable?
Robert Shaver SD Cards, SDXC required for XAVC recording.
5 minute record time in 4K, 29 min in 1080P.
Removable BX1 battery.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Robert Shaver Looks like you need camcorder, not pocket sized stills camera that shoots video.
Thanks Jordan @ TheCameraStore. I often record events with my GH4 that records 4K until the card is full, about 1.5 hours on a 64GB card. Also records 3.5 hours on one battery charge. I'd love to get a second angle, so that's what I'm looking for. ObelixCMM, I'd love a camcorder, just haven't found the right one at the right price. GH4 is hard to beat for $1600. Sony A7s would do too, but costs more.
Thanks all for responding.
Robert Shaver Sony AX100 is camcorder with 4K 1" type sensor and it sells for $1,698.00
ObelixCMM That's a good suggestion. The lower cost AX33 might be worth looking at for that second angle shot too.
Does anyone know if the flash can be set in auto when using shutter priority, aperture priority, or manual modes? I know my a6000 flash was only manual in these models which really killed the camera for me