Sauber Mercedes-Benz C11 with Bob Berridge and Gareth Evans. Nurburgring GP-Track in summer 2013. Including the fastest lap of the weekend onboard in the second qualifying.
Incredible sounding motor, sounds like a NASCAR with a German accent. I was at Le Mans in the late 80’s and 90, the a sight and sound that won’t ever leave me is of the Merc coming down into Indianapolis and then blasting out of Arnage in the small hours of a Sunday morning
cobrafan427 they used the mercedes arena section in WEC and they didn't here, so wec would probably beat this car on this configuration of the nurburgring
Anyway, engineers did a good job, putting "quite" short gears, if you are brave enough to call a 130 km/h first gear "short"... The ratio of every gear is close to each other.
It was designed specifically to race on tracks like this. Look at the list of tracks used in the 1990 World Sportscar Championship: Suzuka, Silverstone, Monza, Nurburgring, Mexico City. Fact is that, according to Martin Brundle, who raced against it in a Jaguar, the C-11 just had more downforce while maintaining the same top speed.
The more I watch this, the more I think the C11 actually surpasses the 917 in my all time top 2. I was lucky enough to be track/stage side most weekends in the 80's and got to see Group C, Group B, Group A, F2/F3000 and F1 perhaps at their pinnacle of speed without tech killing them. The C11 was incredible.
small correction : actually 400kph flat, the WM Peugeot prototype in 1988 was clocked at 405kph. racing drivers had to be completely mental to do that ... at NIGHT !!!
Justus Raw me thinks the Pug did 408 and Kenny {Facebook mate of mine} did 405...but your damm right doing 230 mph + at night , I give them all the credit they are due on those roads back then, and even now....I will check with Kenny mate
Quadrant14 Justus Raw is correct, the WMP88 did 405kph(251.5533MPH) in the 1988 24hr of LeMans, the driver was Roger Dorchy and he set the LeMans speed record that still stands today because of the added 1990 Mulsanne Straight Chicane's 1 and 2. The C-9 Mercedes of 1989 did 400kph (248.5484 mph) driven by pole winner Jean-Louis Schlesser.
The difference between the WM Peugeot and the Sauber Merc was, the Merc did 400km/h every lap no problem do so.and the guys at WM duct tape all the gaps and inlets for less drag. But with no air going into the cooling inlets the WM gave up the ghost very soon after the Mulsanne speed run.
Was lucky enough to see these race at Sandown in Australia. I still remember it like yesterday hearing this thing come down the straight for the first time. Its a sound thats cant be understood till its heard live. Just pure hairy balls horse power. The silk cut Jags got their doors blown off that day. Just an amazing car and absolutely beautiful to look at.
C-9, C-11, 787, xjr-9, and a little longer back in time the 917, these cars really sound like they are cars that are really on the edge and the Public wants to hear that when they go to a race. 2018 911RSR is not bad in that regard for now
I miss the Group C days, the sheer diversification of cars/sounds etc… it was an incredible time for motorsport which will unfortunately never be replicated☹️
SCshooter85 Nope, its DOHC. But its a torquy crossplane V8 with a similar exhaust arrangement to the american cars so it sounds like an american pushrod =)
Dimitris Varsos they are right hand drive so when they pit they can get in and put of the car faster since the next driver has to climb from the right side
When Mercedes make race engine, they extract all emotions and harmonics, they leave only hamers of hell. That is why those engines sound so brutal, sawage and demonic. I never ever hear any of their racing car to produce just a little of merciful harmonic. Don't know is that one of reason why I love them so. Such beautiful plain and functional, to me this is one of best racing car ever built.
That racetrack sadly lacks the long LeMans straight this fab car was built for, allowing speeds in excess of 400 kph. Must be frustrating not to be able to run over 280 with this greatest of racing car.
C11 virus is grove in me every time I look and listen this peace of racing art. Love Mazda, Porsche, AM, Panoz, ... but this car is every time deeper under my skin. Great video!
No they're not actually lol?? First gear going 120 and 2nd to 180 and 3rd 230+ are not short gears lol. It's just the 8 cylinders and turbos that go through them very quick
Incredible sounding motor, sounds like a NASCAR with a German accent. I was at Le Mans in the late 80’s and 90, the a sight and sound that won’t ever leave me is of the Merc coming down into Indianapolis and then blasting out of Arnage in the small hours of a Sunday morning
Sounds better than that ! Sounds like Armageddon !!
Buba Ganoush hahaha
The sound is of a cross-plane V8
MUCH better than nascar lol
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The mix of the turbo V8 and the gear changes he's doing sound surprisingly similar to a late model Koenigsegg in cabin
Both very high boost v8 flatplane crank engines i believe
@@HelixBeats98none of the older koenigsegg used flat plane until the newest renditions. Jesko etc
The sauber also is crossplane
@@azeQify ahhh yes i messed up, i meant crossplane. Just like the yamaha r1 2008+ models that have this low grunting sound , also crossplane.
If The Terminator was a car…
I'd be relieved not to have to go 400kph. That's such a scary speed for a race track with alot of bumps!
To put the speed in perspective, the average time the Audi R18 clocked to get pole in the WEC race was 1:39
cobrafan427 they used the mercedes arena section in WEC and they didn't here, so wec would probably beat this car on this configuration of the nurburgring
Ah yeah, didn't even notice the two slowest corners on the circuit were missing. Must've been distracted by the engine note lol
cobrafan427 haha that isn't a strange thing, it sounds amazing!
I was there in 89 .....no car could compete with that sound ...bring it back ...Hybrid LMP1 are quicker but not as entertaining in my opinion .
Todays F1 looks and SOUNDS like a bad joke compare to this!... This car is a fuckin racing beast! Awesome!!!
never liked mercedes's muscle-ish engines but this is just plain brutality
This Group C, the F1-V10 time, Rally Group B, DTM of 80s&90s were the best Racingcars and Typ of all Time.
F1 V12 in the 90s and V6 turbo in the 80s too 😊
Can-am and F1 V12 too!
@@janosh4664 i'd say no to turbo f1 from the 80's but the 90s 3.5L spec engines were not that bad.
Don't forget as well: 4 Rotor
@@RosalieValentineCHENG 4 rotor was a shit engine always losing everything.
Poor baby is hating that tiddly little track. Wants to be at LE MANS!!!! What a missile.
Anton Spilhaus Nordschleife is better, it has a nice long straight too
Anyway, engineers did a good job, putting "quite" short gears, if you are brave enough to call a 130 km/h first gear "short"...
The ratio of every gear is close to each other.
It was designed specifically to race on tracks like this. Look at the list of tracks used in the 1990 World Sportscar Championship: Suzuka, Silverstone, Monza, Nurburgring, Mexico City. Fact is that, according to Martin Brundle, who raced against it in a Jaguar, the C-11 just had more downforce while maintaining the same top speed.
Back when cars had a manual gearbox
Mechanical manual
@@drrichasaini3598 with a pedal clutch!!!!!
And a H pattern shifter
And no driving assistances!
OK it said it was a sequential shifter in the beginning but does this stil have a clutch pedal
Group C racing cars (and GT1, GT2, and IMSA also come to mind) are like the military jets of the automotive..... Spectacular everything about them!
Oh now this is a real race car. That sound is incredible and manual shifter. Thanks for this great video. More videos like this
The more I watch this, the more I think the C11 actually surpasses the 917 in my all time top 2. I was lucky enough to be track/stage side most weekends in the 80's and got to see Group C, Group B, Group A, F2/F3000 and F1 perhaps at their pinnacle of speed without tech killing them. The C11 was incredible.
QUE MIERDA TIENE Q VER LA F1 Y F2 CON UN ENDURANCE CAR IMBECIL
1:35
Perfection... Simply the perfect engine sound...
Monster Group C car along with the Merc C-9. Kenny Acheson was clocked at 405 kph on the Mulsanne at Le Mans, listen to that engine
small correction : actually 400kph flat, the WM Peugeot prototype in 1988 was clocked at 405kph.
racing drivers had to be completely mental to do that ... at NIGHT !!!
Justus Raw me thinks the Pug did 408 and Kenny {Facebook mate of mine} did 405...but your damm right doing 230 mph + at night , I give them all the credit they are due on those roads back then, and even now....I will check with Kenny mate
Quadrant14 Justus Raw is correct, the WMP88 did 405kph(251.5533MPH) in the 1988 24hr of LeMans, the driver was Roger Dorchy and he set the LeMans speed record that still stands today because of the added 1990 Mulsanne Straight Chicane's 1 and 2. The C-9 Mercedes of 1989 did 400kph (248.5484 mph) driven by pole winner Jean-Louis Schlesser.
The difference between the WM Peugeot and the Sauber Merc was, the Merc did 400km/h every lap no problem do so.and the guys at WM duct tape all the gaps and inlets for less drag. But with no air going into the cooling inlets the WM gave up the ghost very soon after the Mulsanne speed run.
I miss the old Mulsanne
If the Devil went car racing recon he'd chose this car
I just love straight cut gears
That violent Sauber Mercedes engine... In a blindfolded sound quiz, I would recognize it easily.
The golden era of car racing
Was lucky enough to see these race at Sandown in Australia. I still remember it like yesterday hearing this thing come down the straight for the first time. Its a sound thats cant be understood till its heard live. Just pure hairy balls horse power. The silk cut Jags got their doors blown off that day. Just an amazing car and absolutely beautiful to look at.
C-9, C-11, 787, xjr-9, and a little longer back in time the 917, these cars really sound like they are cars that are really on the edge and the Public wants to hear that when they go to a race. 2018 911RSR is not bad in that regard for now
Mercedes Benz always had the best sounding V8s and that's not debatable.
I miss the Group C days, the sheer diversification of cars/sounds etc… it was an incredible time for motorsport which will unfortunately never be replicated☹️
SCshooter85 Nope, its DOHC. But its a torquy crossplane V8 with a similar exhaust arrangement to the american cars so it sounds like an american pushrod =)
Yu Omori it sounds like NASCAR
@@omarlopez7089 except without turbos
This is beautiful.
Sounds better than all current F1 cars combined!
The engines that made all the guys look at each other and just nod their heads.
Someone should report this as pornographic content =)
Every sound is so pure and raw audio excitement
2:28 thats the sound from assetto corsa
The acceleration on this car is exceptional. Wouldn't mind drinking it on South African roads.
Watch out for potholes ;-)
Dimitris Varsos they are right hand drive so when they pit they can get in and put of the car faster since the next driver has to climb from the right side
Thank You very much!!
And secondly, most of the circuits turn clockwise and balance is better when you sit inside the corner.
Ohhh, and among clockwise circuits is De La Sarthe! Now I see!!! Thanks a lot!
When Mercedes make race engine, they extract all emotions and harmonics, they leave only hamers of hell. That is why those engines sound so brutal, sawage and demonic.
I never ever hear any of their racing car to produce just a little of merciful harmonic.
Don't know is that one of reason why I love them so.
Such beautiful plain and functional, to me this is one of best racing car ever built.
What a car. What an engine. What a sound !!
Pure sound of joy
Hey I sent a video response about the sauber Mercedes c9, do you think you could accept it. I would love it if you could, thank you! :D
That was strong heel-toe game.
That racetrack sadly lacks the long LeMans straight this fab car was built for, allowing
speeds in excess of 400 kph. Must be frustrating not to be able to run over 280 with this
greatest of racing car.
This boomer is very fast
I never had this car in truismo but always raced against it fucking fast
That's because you didn't sit the full 24 hours
The lap time is even faster then that of recent F1-Cars (lap record 2013: 1:41.147) In a car, that ist 25 Years old! Absolutely insane.
@@ueberlicht_ they are not even driving the same version of the track. lol
not true and they are not even the same track layout
realSteak86, LOL!!!!
🤣😂😆
Modern F1 cars would show any endurance race car around *ANY & ALL* race courses.
They cannot be compared - SPEEDWISE.
OMG, between 1:35 and 1:40 my eyes almost popped out. Try this with headphones on heh heh....
does that one fly as well?
Ye God's of Thor ! What a machine !! That sound !!!!!!!
Awesome videos! Thank you for posting. That car has serious thrust. Love the turbos.
Is it wrong i only see the GP track as a way to warm up your tires before going on to "the real track" ?
What a monster :D
This baby, garage 56 Camaro and Cadillac V.R lmdh have the best v8 engine sounds in le mans
These cars have to be more interesting than even F1 today. Brutal sound, beautiful design. Intoxicating.
C11 virus is grove in me every time I look and listen this peace of racing art. Love Mazda, Porsche, AM, Panoz, ... but this car is every time deeper under my skin.
Great video!
One of the greatest race car in history! Sad that the FIA killed the group C.
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man those gears are freakin' short.
No they're not actually lol?? First gear going 120 and 2nd to 180 and 3rd 230+ are not short gears lol. It's just the 8 cylinders and turbos that go through them very quick
It's a race car, what would you expect
that turbo spool at 5th gear 6500rpm... 👌👌👌 real airplane turbine taking off
man this car can reach more than 400 km\h !!!! this is freaking awesome
No it can't. Never did. The Sauber C9 achieved 400 km/h _once_ at Le Mans in 1989. This car never raced on the old 5.8 km Mulsanne straight.
@@thethirdman225 you just said it did
@@afoxwithahat7846 No, I was talking about the C9. This car is a C11.
Well done Frank...ich liebe die Sauber Gr.C
This and the CLK GTR are probably my 2 favourite race cars of all time
where the fuck did this engine go. it belongs in Every damn SMH model today. that sound is incredible.
Imagine driving it for 30 or so laps ! You would be fucked
I cried a little... LOL
Awesome machine!
it is correctly and officially called the _mercedes-benz c11_ .
utter beast
That is a Hewland 5-Speed gearbox.
Sounds like NASCAR at Watkins Glen
Wonderfull Sound!
Fastet Race Lap of the F1 GP 2013: F Alonso 1:33,4
22 year old Sauber C11 : 1:35,8 (with quicker chicane)
Pretty impressive performance!
Also with half of the first sector cut. Still pretty impressive
What recent car sounds like this?
Mercedes-Benz M119
This thing is an absolute rocket
Damn, I was made in the wrong generation.
Wow...magnificent. I could listen to the onboard portion audio all day, playing in the background like Bach, Mozart, or Chopin. Absolutely symphonic.
Sounds like NASCAR’S German cousin .
NOTHING sounds as good
as a fire-breathing large bore V8.
This is the shit only us gear heads understand
The same engine used in CLK-LM and CLR...
But with larger displacement and different crankshaft...
Ferocious!
all that power and it needs a push start
MB C-11 😘👌 Chef's kiss.
Utterly... Utterly... Awesome
This car totally confuses me, it's pretty much RHD but the gear stick is on the right?! WTF!
Eargasm i love this Car
sounds like nascar
LOVE this car. Loved, and still love Group C. I saw them in Canada and Mexico City. Fabulous.
2:37 another sound from assetto corsa
Next to the V12 Jags, that is THE COOLEST sounding group C car ever...
Simply my favourite Group C of all time and to my ears the best sounding
It's not a sequential like the text said at the start. It's manual.
That looks like proper fun to drive though
5 manual not sequential
one actual group (without limitations) c on nordschleife that will be... better would be.
Swear to god that sounds like a NASCAR engine.
Because it's a big, high cc, crossplane V8.
c9 sounds better
brilliant!same MOTEC on the porsche Cup car!
F1 fans would shit their pants at 1:30
If I could choose any car, it would be this with the neat Mulsanne straight.....haha, if I could :-D
that gear ratio that turbo boost, hahaha brutal!
Why does it say sequential gearbox in the beginning when he's clearly shifting a dog leg pattern?
I would have destroyed the engine/gearbox because 1st gear isn't top left. fantastic car.
Oprah was in fact at the wheel doing her magic, as ever..............................
And the Sauber is doing qualifying. Look at F1 qualifying times compared to race lap times