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Marvel finished at endgame for me.
First signs of the woke agenda in that
Same
That's a spicy hot take 😙👌
Guardians of Galaxy 3 and Deadpool 3 were good tho, but rest is shit
Spider-Man no way home guardians of the Galaxy vol 3 and Deadpool and wolverine were the only good movies from phase 4 everything else fell apart afterwards
To quote Jeremy Clarkson. "Oh No! Anyway..."
Clarkson's Farm is a thousand times more enjoyable than modern Marvel.
@@ald1144 not seen it does he shout at people walking through his land ?
"Most straight people cringe at the sight of two men kissing," Joy Reid
@@SharreIWright No. My Brit friends tell me that it's law that old paths through private land have to be maintained for public use. There was an episode where he was putting in barriers to keep one of those paths safe from one of his bulls.
I think Loki also did, "Yes very sad. Anyway..."
We aren't going through superhero overload. The movies are just poorly written.
Good point.
Exactly cuz if they were mostly good no one would complain expect bitches, there is no superhero fatigue it’s just a lot of stuff was not good or it was just mediocre at best.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls👍 Its bad writing fatigue.
Maybe, but the poor writing was inevitable. Anytime a Hollywood genre gets huge - movie musicals, Westerns, the Disney Renaissance - everyone and their brother tries their hand at making their own. Eventually, each genre gets to a point where the market is so saturated with movies made by people who have no business making them that the audience tunes out. In the case of superhero movies, _Deadpool and Wolverine_ is the exception that proves the rule
@@gelchert Except, all these movies are not made by "everyone and their brother", it's all made by the same studio that pump quantity over quality. Doubled the amount of movies they made and blasted the fans with half-baked TV series on top of it. They spread themselves thin with so much stuff so fast.
Supposedly, the "activist" producers and staff have been fired from Marvel.
Paramount TV, after +50 years, has been shut down with the Halo series being canceled, Section 31 being written off, and efforts to drop future Nutrek.
Deadpool and Wolverine made a billion. Why? Because the audience wanted entertainment, not a message or slop.
Deadpool and Wolverine definitely had "the message" in it lol most people tend to accept it when the movie is written well
Except that movie was slop.
@@PettyCrow-n9c I don't mind "the message" as long as there's a story wrapped around it and that's not the only selling point of the movie
goyslopmmmgud
Most films have “messages”… the only people who think otherwise are deluded and only fooling themselves because they have embraced the antithesis of the messages as part of their core identity. These people can’t enjoy life and can only hate things. This exists across the social spectrum.
I love the fact that Disney took a diverse group of original Marvel characters and decided they weren’t diverse enough! That will always crack me up!
must obey israel dei esg stuff.
Because its all about revenge on swm's.
To lefties "diverse" only means blacker, gayer or more female.
Never enough tokenization where Disney is concerned.
Yes, but don't forget Asian are no longer considered minorities and are now grouped together with majority Whites. Washington Schools first did this because the test scores of Asian students, number of intact Asian households, Asian home ownership rates and etc was skewing all of their "victimhood" statistics. Once they included Asians with Whites the disparity between them and the remaining "minorities" became even larger. It was a big win.
And there is a rather large high tech company which was recently caught telling managers that when going for bonuses for hiring minorities that Asians are NOT an "under represented" minority in tech unless they are gender non-conforming, gender-fluid, z00philiic (yes, that means what you think and no, you don't want that word in your search history) or otherwise part of the Queer Community.
So the presence of Asians in a show does not necessarily add to the number of "minorities" and therefore does nothing to increase "diversity."
.....and nothing of value was lost.
Arishem died on the way back to his home planet.
@@anubusxThat would be lame
It is a shame cuz The Celestials are Kool and have some wacky lore in the comics which can be interesting.
Right but I'm sure some of these characters will return in the next Avengers films , or some other team up film, same with She Hulk and Captain Marvel. They will never get their own films or shows again.
@@kicknowledgesmith8608 Nope. They are in a team, or team-up/mini series characters in the comics and in the movies as well. They can not hold their own in a stand-alone setting even if they are popular and loved characters, like The Thing.
Last line from the Eternal movie. I can't even remember the first 99% of the movie never mind the last 1 %.
The worst part of the Eternals was the story. The plot makes no sense if you really think about it.
Does this mean Galactus eats cosmic eggs?
The Avengers included several characters that had already been introduced in their own movies and only a couple of new ones. The Eternals had a completely new lineup (12 characters!) no one knew or cared about. And because it wasn't part of any other series or sequence, there was no good reason to go see it.
@@anonygent same mistake DC made by trying to rush the Justice League.
@@Dracounguisthey're major mistake was hiring Snyder in the first place. Guy doesn't understand the DC universe, and wants to change the characters to fit his style.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp and after hearing about Rebel Moon... An unrestrained Snyder is a bad thing! 😆
Shang Tsung and the Six Golden Coins was a classic
Oh wait that was Super Mario Land 2 ..
Ching Chow and 10 portion fry rice.
Hey it would probably have been a better film with Shang sung in it.
I would unironically watch a Shang Tsung movie so long as they go with the absolute cheese fest that he was in the original MK movie!
"Your soul... is miiiiiiiine!!" :{D
Shang Ching and the ten cock rings... "It's flied lice, you plick!"
@@spiffygonzales5160
Dude was awesome, but I also liked the guy they had in that cheesy mortal Kombat conquest show, I don't know if dude was even Asian, but he played the character very well.
"Black Widow" SHOULD have been a simple spy thriller origin story with a modest budget and exotic locations that was released before 2018. It could easily have had one of the best profit margins in the MCU. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
Should have had Hawkeye in it too as a duo
It should have been whatever happened in Budapest. And might have helped if it had come out before they killed Black Widow herself.
Agreed. It also should have been Rated R at the very least, based on the character in the comics.
@@yelsahblah3270 That IS the BW movie I wanted to see.
She was too old at that point to make an origin story
Captain America 4 will sink as well
Haven't they made him non White now?
@@dylangeorge7956 Captain African America
@@darthkek1953”He can fly now.”
@@JoeOvercoat that won't stop him carjacking.
I mean it happened in the comics and there should be no issue with it, the issue was how it was handled and treated in the show as if it’s a race issue and that it mattered this way which it doesn’t at all.
And then they never had the new Cap show up in any other shows ever like a complete waste of his character which is a shame I like the actor.
Cap is supposed to be a leader, a man who’s in the frontlines with his men and very important to the point he’s in most movies cuz he is trying to keep everyone together to better save the world as a team but they didn’t do that so it just seems like a race swap which it shouldn’t be, they are different characters so while he takes the title he will come with his own spin to it which could of been interesting if done well.
*Before watching video*
Please be Doctor Who...
Somehow Dr Who returns
I was bummed out when i realised it wasn’t Dr Who..
Or Star Trek...
LOL that was exactly me
Well Disney bought doctor who, made it as diverse and gay as possible, and it cost them dearly. They won't pay for it unless it changes and fans come back.
Eternals was the closest I’ve come to walking out of a movie theater in a very long time.
I walked out of it , god it was so boring.
One movie that I actually walked out of was "Romeo and Juliet with Leonardo diCRAPio
You should have known it was going to be garbage. Why waste money on an unpleasant experience?
Not even Last Jedi ?
There hasn't been a reason to walk into a theater for over 30 years.
The Avengers were all introduced in their own films first. Joe public had never heard of the Eternals, and the dreadfully dull costumes and cinematography can't have helped.
The public had never heard of The Guardians of the Galaxy either. They were a Grade D comic book with a large cast, almost completely separate from the ongoing MCU, except for the Thanos scenes forced in by Feige but if you write a descent script with good characters, the cinema-going public can be brought up to speed pretty quick.
@@sdfried4877 Good point. If only the Eternals had listened :)
@@portland-182 I liked ethical dilemma about the Celestial “baby” and balancing Earth against the greater good it could bring but most of the character stuff was nonsensical garbage.
"Reternals." 🤣 that was a good one Dave.
DO. NOT. ENCOURAGE. THIS.
He'll only do it again.
@@darthkek1953Bahaha
I don't know if Dave has kids, but dad jokes are underrated and get WAY too much hate...
It was good but what really got me was "Yeah, the channel has seen better days." 😂
@@darthkek1953
The Returnals meet the Revengers.
Not Coming Soon
Another thing you didn't mention (probably because we're all just trying to forget that this was ever a thing) but it was also advertised with such emphasis on the DIVERSITY of the cast being more important than any other element of the film. That put a lot of people off.
I know they had a ghey couple but did they have a ghey kiss too? Or am I thinking of Star Trek?
Cancelled? They actually seriously thought about making another one?!? 🤦🏻♀️
Nope. This was never happening. This was claimed a year ago this and captain marvel 3 neither were ever green lit or announced. Its a repeat non story
At one time, absolutely. They thought making a movie was just like making a cake out of a box, just add water, get some frosting out of a can, and there you have it!
@@matthewronson5218
Isn't that what they're currently doing in Hollywood anyway? It would explain a lot
A quick reminder in defense of the Black widow box office, not the film which was meh!, but Disney DELIBERATELY undermined the financial potential by dropping it on D+ almost simultaneously with the opening weekend. Hence the legal action taken by Johannsen who was expecting a back-end percentage of take.
Yes exactly! They screwed themselves and Johannsen. Of course Disney was quick to claim that it brought in thousands of additional subscriptions on their platform 😂
It also didn't help that it came out after Endgame, in which Black Widow died.
A Black Widow movie should have come out instead of Captain Marvel while Black Widow was still alive and to build up to the story of Infinity War and Endgame.
It's really hard to get excited for a character whose conclusion we just saw. It was also a very poorly made movie.
@@beowulfsrevenge4369 Agreed. A good prequel is hard to write and Disney/Marvel seem to have fired all their good writers.
Disney has ruined the MCU.
MODERN DISNEY!
Among other things
It has ruined everything it touches.
Yeah, they did. We knew it was coming when they bought Marvel Studios. Was like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
WTF are you on about? They MADE the MCU what it is today. Before them it was a shitty movie company.
I still never watched Eternals. In fact I didn't watch anything in phase 4.
Same here only spiderman guardians and now DP not interested in the rest of the p4/5
#MeNeither
Made the mistake of seeing Dr. Strange 2.
Honesy, I never made it past Imfinity War. Don't get me wrong, I liked Infinity War, but I just couldn't muster up the enthusiasm.
I made the mistake of watching the second Doctor Strange. Ugh... 😖
If only Marvel had some successful 'the gods were ancient aliens' model they could have copied, right Thor?
Instead of making Thor Australian
@@SharreIWright And a total clown.
I think a reason why these movies are so expensive, is that they are getting more money to promote 'THE MESSAGE" from Blackrock and others, so the producers and other big wigs get the extra money and pocket it. Not caring if those movies tank. They just want to grab as much cash as they can.
Good less marvel movies the better
Stannis: "Fewer"
@@Rhys-Lightning
No just no more Marvel or any comic book movies again hollywoods done enough damage to culture
Deadpool & Wolverine isn’t a real MCU movie. It’s a Deadpool film that pokes fun of the MCU, and is mostly set in the Fox universe.
Yeah, it's a 'cross over' like using Spiderman in Civil War, but it's still Marvel Studios tho.
@@matthewronson5218 yeah but marvel studios also made X men 97 which is non MCU.
yea a great movie
but it's a little too generous to MCU to call it a MCU Movie
Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman have spoken about how they want to do a Movie with Tom Holland's Spiderman where they torment him LOL
if they do make a 4th Deadpool which i think they shouldn't
but if they do that's prob the best angle for it
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 Tom Holland is overrated. However if they were tormenting him in a R rated comedy then I’d see it lol 💯 but yeah tbh just leave Ryan and Hugh alone and let their last movie be DP&W
0:14 nope because I fell asleep and couldn’t be arsed to rewatch it
Lol
While I do love mythology in my superhero stories, the Eternals have never fit in the Marvel universe. They didn't in the comics, and they don't in the movies. You can't have a bunch of characters that supposedly inspired the idea of gods and demigods living in the same universe as actual gods and demigods.
I didn't know the Eternals
So when I sat down and that premise was introduced, I thought: "This could be interesting"
1h45m in I just gave up, there was nothing remotely entertaining, it wasn't even bad, it was apathetically bland, which IMO is worse since it induces absolutely no emotional investment
Ah yes. The movie where the preachers of InClUsiOn finally showed my freaking CONTINENT and didn’t show a single one of us.
You didn't enjoy the half hour segment where they all simped for the Aztecs?
"Do you remember what the last line in Eternals was?"
Bro...I never even heard the first line of that movie...
It’s hard to keep throwing good money after bad when you run out of money.
And nothing of value was lost
What about all the people it was gonna save
I was just about the comment the same thing! XD
Hopefully they'll clean up the big hand sticking out of the Indian Ocean now.
... what do you mean, they forgot about that?
Strange I thought it was called Jackie Chan and the 12 talismans
Jackie Chan Adventures was cheesy sometimes and Jade was often overblown, but it was still more fun than current Marvel.
@@janeenschultz8502 Show had an amazing voice cast in its first couple seasons too. Adam Baldwin, Clancy Brown, even Lucy Liu makes a couple cameo appearances.
One more thing!
@@mountainghoti1671 Lol! We often quote: "There's no such thing as 'too much garlic'!"
😅😅😅
The best thing in Shang Chi was his dad. The main actor was completely unconvincing.
I don’t agree at all with the statement on the main actor he was great, the movie overall was great tho the ending was not the best.
Getting to Endgame already felt like a bit of a slog, but fans were so invested at this point that they wanted to see the showdown of what was teased in Iron Man back in 2008 and really started with Avengers in 2011. After that... people were just tired. The only franchise that kept going strong after Endgame was Spiderman and that was mainly Sony and not Marvel. The fact that they're bringing back Robert Downey Jr. to play a Dr. Doom/Iron Man hybrid says it all. They're eating through the crumbs at this point and keep releasing these underperforming, overproduced, overmarketed movies and shows that no one wants to see anymore. It's said that a movie needs to rake in about 2-3 times its production costs just to break even at this point.
I don’t agree with this fully, I never felt this way about the mcu like it was not a slog for me only pussies feel that way tbh cuz most movies were good and enjoyable.
I don’t agree with the whole dumbass narrative of superhero fatigue cuz if the content was mostly good they would be fine with it as seen with people still loving it when good shit is made. The only issues that is an issue besides the quality of new shit is that, 1 they pumped out way too many shows making it hard for causals to keep up if they didn’t have Disney+, 2 the shows were not well connected it felt too disjointed and the whole phase was a mess I mean the New cap was never shown again when Cap is supposed to be the leader to keep the team together to better help the world and he is a symbol for America and the world yet he’s nowhere, 3 when they fuck up they drop shit as if it never happened and just make some things worthless to watch, and etc. and ofc the woke lazy shitty characters like iron heart no one asked for being added over actual characters is a sin.
I agree with pretty much everything else you said but I don’t think RDJ being DOOM is inherently bad if they do something like when Dr.DOOM took the body of Tony in the comics and Tony is stuck in DOOM’s body it could be Kool yet it does seem desperate and could be bad so I hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
I could probably get through Black widow... if it was on mute.
The idea behind the eternal (immortal heroes guiding history but ultimately working for evil) is an interesting one, but given Infinity War and Endgame, it couldn’t be set on Earth in the MCU. There were just too many “Why didn’t they show up to help?” hoops and suspensions of disbelief to jump through that even if it was good (and it wasn’t), it was always going to be a struggle to make it work. They should have just been on some other planet and them met the Guardians of the Galaxy in the credits and headed to Earth after. It’s not great, but it’s better than a giant head and hand in an ocean that has to be ignored by every other movie (despite being the greatest disaster in human history other than the snap).
There's an even more interesting story behind the different hosts coming to Earth... none of which was even TOUCHED in The Eternals movie.
The problem is how LONG they waited to do a Black Widow film. Fans wanted one as early as Iron man 2 and Disney said NO.
Eternals will return... *in Avengers Kang Dynasty!*
Yeah, that'll happen 😂😂😂😂😂
Didn't help that they had Black Widow on Disney+ while it was in theaters.
The only thing I remember about Eternals was there was a character named Sprite and I kept saying “Where’s Pepsi?” and making people in the theater mad at me.
Eternals would've worked if set on another planet entirely, an erpic extraterrestrial story with an important worldbuilding and ALL the room to think about future develoipment in the most creative way.
As it is, it's more probable that they'll come up with "Eh, it happened in another timeline. There's no partially formed giant being corpse sticking out of our ole blue planet threatening to destabilize the axial tilt, nossir!"
I have severe super hero fatigue, Kevin Hart fatigue, Ryan Reynolds fatigue and Dwayne Johnson fatigue.
Yes! Exactly! Well said.
Eternals did not live up to its name.
"Temporaries"
😄
Just like the neverending story.
@@jackochainsaw: Someone call Lionel Hutz!
Well, I see having eternal life as becoming a boring shitshow beyond a certain point
This movie's certain point was roughly after 10 minutes
Let me save you the five minutes it's the Eternals.
Let me cost you five minutes, Why is it the Eternals? That is what the video covers.
@@EnsignRedshirtRickylet me loan you five minutes, I have some time to spare.
@@EnsignRedshirtRicky Cause it was bad and DP made them realize they can just make good movies instead. Easy to assume really.
0:21 That’s putting it nicely.
Black Widow was also released on D+ at the same time. There's your loss in revenue, right there.
The Eternals didn't ever work in the comic books. Even the Inhumans was more popular (which isn't saying much). The Eternals never had a single good comic run unlike something like Guardians of the Galaxy. It was sheer hubris to make a $200 million dollar movie.
The Marvel Max series they did was ok, woulda been a good hbo series, still not really a super hero story for the masses.
The storyline more seems like a boring adaptation of Tom Cruise's "Oblivion".
I give Black Widow a pass because it actually had no theatrical release to make its money back, and out of all of the movies listed in this video Black Widow is the only one that I'd watch again and that I bought on DVD.
Glad that X Men 97 is not connected to the MCU is any way. We need more non MCU Marvel movies and shows.
Shang Chi was extremely well received and didn’t have a bad box office at all for a 2021 release.
It was a damn good movie… better than many phase 1-3 movies.
Yeah, that was a bad take by Dave.
While I personally thought Shang Chi was mediocre, I can’t deny its success overall.
I was closet to walking out of Thor love and thunder
Eternals is a concept they've never been able to sell to comics fans. It originally came about when Jack Kirby returned to Marvel after creating the New Gods at DC. Even then, only Darkseid really resonated. He took the same basic outline to create the Eternals (i.e. massively powerful godlike beings fighting a secret war for millenia). I don't believe he originally wrote them to be part of the Marvel Universe, but they got shoved in fairly soon after. That led to the problem of yet ANOTHER secret society of superhumans hidden away from humanity. Also, their origins were so close to that of the Inhumans that they had to retcon that the Eternals was where the Kree got the idea from. They also linked them to a colony of superhumans on Saturn, which roped in Thanos.
Also, the movie turned the character who's literally the closest thing the group has to a face/leader/main character and turned him into a bad guy.
To be fair, the foundation of the MCU's success was not built on the guiding principle of giving audiences what they want. Audiences didn't ask for an Iron Man movie, or a Hulk reboot, or a Thor movie, or a Captain America movie, or a Guardians of the Galaxy movie, etc. In fact, Marvel was heaped with praise for taking "C-list" characters nobody knew or cared about and turning them into beloved pop culture icons. The problem isn't that Marvel stopped "giving audiences what they want". The problem is that they forgot how to make good movies. Because if they had stayed on the quality path, I maintain that even movies like Eternals could have succeeded as much as Guardians of the Galaxy.
I've said before, Deadpool and Wolverine was green lit over the objections of Fiege, and RDJ is 59, how long can he continue to play a convincing comic book villain? He spent eleven years playing Iron man which would make him 70 in a similar length run. Not really credible is it? RDJ is not the long term solution to the MCU's problem, even assuming the special effects and writing are spot on, it's a short term cash grab to bring Disney back into a position to pay dividends and give Iger breathing room. What their long term solution is remains to be seen.
honestly man
i mean hell the entire Deadpool Trilogy was green lit with FIERCE OBJECTIONS
if Ryan Reynolds hadn't pushed so hard it wouldn't have happened
so far the Trilogy has gotten a little over 2.6 Billion Dollars box
with 368 Million Budget combined
so yea hence to say it's been a very successful Project but it's not really related to how the rest of MCU is being ran
as great as the 3rd Deadpool Movie was imo it's time to call it a day quit while your ahead it's a perfect Trilogy no need to keep going
and don't do the F****** Fast and Furious bs of dragging the series too long
RDJ probably will do a great Dr. Doom, having him wearing his mask, helps disconnect it from any previous movies
He just has to remember he's not Playing Tony Stark and shouldn't act as such
There's no need for RDJ to do 11 years of F4, this topic is simply not viable as a movie, 3 crappy failed movies in should have made that clear about now
But there is some bigwig in Marvel who's such a desperate fanboy, he's willing to throw away billions, so it'll get rebooted til the cows come home to finally get his "Successful" F4
The definition of Insanity: Trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results
I still believe that part of the reasons for the drop off in Phase 4 is two fold:
1) A lot of us who were there from the beginning decided to stop after Endgame. Now, we only watch the ones that seem interesting but we don't care about following every character anymore
2) Disney oversaturated the market after Endgame.
Yea, there's the whole forced woke crap but in reality, that didn't turn off that many people compared to the two above reasons.
I watched a video covering the fumble of the Disney films on John Carter. I loved that film but Disney switched focus onto Marvel when that film was about to come out. Same with the third Tron film which also was close to going into production. Disney dropped it's more original IP's for the MCU and Star Wars. Yet now that both those IP's have been run into the ground we see Disney returning to its own IP's to save them. Or at least slow the bleeding profit/loss wise.
Even before the movie came out, I wasn't sold on it. The biggest problem it has it that it's hyping up the Eternals to replace the Avengers. You have the characters talking about who'll replace Iron Man and Captain America. You have one of them saying that Thor used to be obsessed with them. None of them have earned the right to replace any of the characters introduced between 2008 and 2019 except Captain Marvel. They didn't pull their weight to stop Thanos but the writers used a hokey excuse that they don't get involved in human affairs. I still remember this one comment blowing up on the trailer.
Eternals: Is everyone okay?
Iron Man: No thanks to you.
The problem is up until endgame, the movies complemented each other at an unbelievable level leading to a grand finale. The new phases are all over the place. And I really hate being preached to in entertainment. I just want to forget this insane world for 2 hours. Also, it doesn't help that they hire the most insufferable actors that can't check their ideologies at the door. End of rant.
There was no where else to take the eternals storywise either. It was Marvel basically forcing the round peg into the square hole. Like the Inhumans there wasn't interest.
There's a giant alien head and hand sticking out of the Earth, How does this not come up more often. 🤨
I hate how brushed over and barely covered the Celestials are tbh they have some interesting lore in the comics yet they are so downscaled and underutilized.
The abysmal quality of most modern superhero movies reflects the insultingly low opinion that the filmmakers have of us, their audience. Why should we give our money to people who are openly mocking us with the films they make, which are supposedly "for us"?
To be fair RE Black Widow - it was during the height of the pandemic and ultimately released on streaming instead of tgeatrically
They're all supposed to be family, from the same place- but they each have a very different and thick accents? And from king before there would ever have been accents to begin with.
Lastly was the whole "Diversity Checklist " that saw the director proudly declaring how she never bothered reading the source material and making each Eternal a different nationality or race, but also gender swapping the genders on three Eternals.
There's a supercut of ten or so Marvel in directors in separate interviews patting themselves on the back about how they've never so much as read a comic book...
And they wonder why all those projects tanked.? They replaced the golden goose with a rooster for the sake of diversity and can't figure out why it won't lay golden eggs any more.
The success of the stories and characters come from the comics, not the other way around
Marvel and Disney should themselves be entirely cancelled. Problem solved.
👏
I mean if you’re stupid sure
Disney will sadly never be cancelled they've gotten to big they own almost everything now.
just fire the woke era for me works enough.
That's exactly what the pushers of woke/marxist agendas want... the destruction of all traditional American values/brands etc. Historically companies like Disney, Harley Davidson, Budweiser beer, etc were part of Americana, but you will notice these are the companies being targeted the most to push woke agendas. When/if these companies get destroyed, it's actually a win for the left leaning communists that are pushing this stuff.
I guess we'll never resolve the fact that the Eternal's non-interferance policy and whole conflict over it was irrelevant because of the TVA. Oh, darn. 😂
Even if the characters and story were all top notch, the Eternals still have to answer the same "where were you guys when ___ happened" that Marvel danced around with Captain Marvel. How many OP characters can you do that with until it takes a toll on the overall story? Looks like we found out!
"we just not going to talk about what was happening around the time of black widow to why it got so low money? No? i guess not."
Eternals was the first MCU movie I didn't see. It wasn't the last.
To be fair, Black Widow didn't have much of a theatrical release in North America during the pandemic and it was available as a digital rental on Disney+ at the time.
Storywise it was mid at best. But pretty good amounts of comedic elements in it.
The true ending for the marvel cinematic universe was and is infinite war. End game was so poorly written it's laughable. The sad part is the original story of end game was originally going to be Thanos teaming up with the classic avengers to stop his snap from happening. Tony Stark was going to show Thanos the utter deviation of his snap. Planes falling from the sky, multiple crashes of vehicles around the universe that destroyed more than half the galaxy population. Lawlessness of planets, starvation, war, lack of supply. All created by his snap. So Thanos and the avengers seek help from the collector. The collector says the only one to fix the infinite stones is the beyonder. So they make a deal with the beyonder. If they can convince the young Thanos that his views are flawed and to bring the infinite stones back to the beyonder. Then he will allow the change to be permanent if they fail the snap will happen. So the beyonder sends them back to before the snap. They succeed but only the people that went to the past remember what happened after the snap the only one exception is Doctor strange. He thanks them for saving the universe. The end credits were going to be the beyonder, Madame Webb, and the collector. Discussing the value of heroes and villains. Leading to the secret wars movie. All this was written by Jon favreau. Which Kevin feige threw out at the start of phase 4. Do you remember spiderman no way home. Yeah Sony took Jon favreau secret wars script to make that movie. In secret wars the beyonder was going to bring dead villains to fight the heroes. Just like the multiple spidermen fighting dead villains in no way home.
Only two things ever made the Eternals remotely relevant in the comics:
The first is that Thanos was one of them.
The second is that three of them - Gilgamesh, Sersi, and Starfox (Thanos's twin brother Eros) - were members of the Avengers back in the 80s (when being on the team still sort of meant something).
But making MCU Thanos some random alien rendered them completely meaningless to the MCU.
I’m one of the few that liked Eternals mostly for its Celestial based mythology. I love those huge guys in the comics. But Eternals ended with a rather large plot device being birthed in the ocean. No mention of this gigantic hand and arm and face in any of the movies since. You think something like that would be used or scavenged ala the alien tech by Michael Keaton’s Vulture.
Eturdles. Turds are eternal if life exists continually in the universe.
Black Widow released on Disney + during the pandemic at the same time it was in theaters, not an accurate metric to bring up.
I remember watching the trailer, which started with a voice over saying that they have always just watched as human history unfolded but never got directly involved, then the next few scenes showed them getting directly involved.
No end of juvenile superhero movies, would the kiddies stop buying movie tickets so the rest of us can finally see some actual films again. Otherwise we aren’t very far away from Fart Man, a new superhero who with a mere glance can turn people into a cabbage.
"Silent, but deadly." - Mystery Men movie scene.
I enjoyed Shang-Chi. It doesn't really fit in the MCU, but as a standalone movie it really made a long flight more pleasant.
"Oh no, what happened? Oh no, how terrible! That's just awful, how terrible oh nooo!"
lol! Guess they didn’t want to address the celestial sticking out of the freaking planet thing…
Dave: You could say.....
Me: pLEaSe DoN't😂
I walked out of Eternals... it was an in-flight movie!
Glad your OK. Hope you had a soft landing...
I miss “Why is this a thing”
The Incredible Hulk box office revenue is a bit misleading too, it actually made 33 million more dollars than The Eternals did when adjusted for inflation and that was considered an absolute flop in 2008 but you'll have people defend movies like The Eternals coping and seething about it, how the times have changed LOL
Shang Chi was not a flop or poorly recieved.
Why are they investigating over 200 million in movie budgets?😅😂
Is it anyone speaking their mind in the UK?
Same with the US.
Dave neglected to mention that Sheng Chi was released in 2021, when the pandemic and its aftereffects was still wrecking havoc with economies.
That includes box office.
And the box office numbers overall have never returned to pre pandemic levels.
No Returnals 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'm done😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
2008 Incredible Hulk just keeps looking better and better.
It's simply the natural process of evolution. The sub-par Eternals got pruned from the tree of life.
Not so eternal as they thought they were.
Exactly. There weren’t up to
The task
@@chasehedges6775 There you are, evolution doesn't care about feelings. The harsh truth is that only best survive.
@@richardlbowlesExcept that these movies didn't evolve...they were created.
@@evertonporter7887 Hmm, I take your point. However, Survival of the Fittest is the best metaphor I can come up with at the moment.
I'll keep you posted.
Disney had the best material to kickstart a new hero movie journey with their acquisition of Fox that started in 2017 and was finalized in 2019, the year Endgame released. They could have used the homecoming for the X-Men and Fantastic 4 to startup a new phase from there. I don't know why they decided to go the path they went.
Great dad joke.
All dads will be proud 😂
Maybe to some smaller degree, but another reason it possibly didn't do well was the unnecessary/annoying race/sex swapping of the known superheros (this was around the time 'Snowflake' and 'Safespace' characters were invented too)...
Dave uploads, I watch.
Fair enough. But if he unloads... dodge.
You can’t blade those two movies for there falling at the box office because they came out durning during Covid. Plus Black Widow was in the movie theaters and streamed on Disney plus at the same time. The numbers of people who saw it on Disney was not counted in the totals and most people watched it more then once at that time.
It's a bit unfair to call Shang-Chi a box office failure based on when it was released. It also holds a 91% Critic and 98% Audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes. That movie didn't lead to fewer people watching the Eternals.
This will be an interesting knock on effect.
Does this spill over to Black Knight?
Do issues with Black Knight spill over to Blade?
Do Issues with Blade spill over into the talks on Midnight Suns?
My current guess is if they do plan to continue with Black Knight, aspects of the eternals storyline will be incorporated there as a means of wrapping up the story.
Blade's already been in production hell that I'm waiting for the official announcement of it's cancelation. With Mahershala Ali being moved into a battelworld cameo with Secret Wars...
Very much shaping up the the Doom story line will be for the most part a major reset. Shaking the MCU free of all the recent stuff that hasn't been working, and attempting to shift focus back to the pre-Endgame-era, with a higher level of attention to faithful adaptations as were seen with Deadpool & Wolverine.
I never watched the Eternals, because I knew it was going to be a $h!t Show.
SAME