Daemon's dragon and rhaenys dragon are both dragon capable of killing vhagar so daemon was right if meleys and caraxes fight vhagar , 1v1 or together in a 2v1 vhagar is loosing
@@rohanshende4338 Westeros had no unified law around succession until 52 AC. Different regions followed different customs at different times. Over the millennia some kings in some of the kingdoms that had been independent before the Conquest issued edicts pertaining to inheritance, but in other regions there were only informal norms that could vary greatly by locale or the decisions might be left to the whims of the local liege. Most often a daughter would inherit after a son but before a brother. Sometimes a daughter would inherit after a son or brother but before a cousin. Sometimes even a bastard son would inherit before a legitimate daughter. Sometimes an adult daughter might inherit before her brothers only if they had not yet come of age. Sometimes a daughter couldn't inherit herself, but her sons would inherit before her younger brothers. Sometimes an adult brother or cousin would inherit before either a son or daughter that was still a minor. Sometimes a lord would leave a will naming his preferred heir despite the existence of much closer blood relatives. Often inheritance was just a matter of who could seize power and defend it. Before 52 AC, it was not uncommon for a lord to disinherit a child from a first marriage in order to let a child from a subsequent marriage inherit instead (especially if the second marriage was to a more prominent house). It was also not uncommon for heirs to kick their widowed stepmothers out to die or live in poverty (especially if the stepmother was from a less important house). The Widows Law explicitly forbid both practices. An heir was required to maintain any widowed stepmother and her children in the style to which they were accustomed unless and until she remarried, but no man was allowed to disinherit any child from his first marriage in order to give that birthright to a half sibling. It seems that the law did still allow a man to disinherit one child in favor of a full sibling from the same mother though, as Jaehaerys did when he chose Baelon over Aemon's line when Aemon's heir was an underaged girl. There is no doubt that a son of Aemma would inherit before a daughter of Aemma, but there is a strong case that it would have been illegal for Viserys to let any child of Alicent inherit before Rhaenyra.
Read a comment on different channel pointing out how sad Cheese's eyes are when he realizes Helaena is telling the truth. That, and how he had to hold knife with two hands to contain his shakiness.
[Long comment] Power imbalance: you are technicaly right with Alicent and Criston. We didnt see their first interaction on screen so it could have gone just like Rhanerya's with him hesitating. I will say Criston probably cares far less about this now, he already forsaked his vows with Rhanerya, and later tried to self-end after snapping when Leanor's bf threatened him. Its clear both Alicent and Criston have a lot of bitterness toward Rhanerya and are a bit harsh in their evaluations of her. But they both were in one way or another betrayed by her and do have grounds to be angry with her in the first place. She was a bit wreckless in how she treated them both when she was young. We honestly never saw Rheanyra have a bit of regret or show any bit apologetic to either of them in season one, did we? In a perfect world, none of this would be happening. She would apologize to each of them and they would be mature enough to accept the apology. But she didnt. She was Viserys' favorite child and while Alicent was the Queen she at least seemed to have sincerity toward other's in her younger years. All this being said I still support Team Black and Rhanerya's claim, i just do think she did a whole bunch of screwing up and causing problems for others when she was the heir and why now she has as many enemies as she does.
What did Rhaenyra do to wrong them? From my POV Alicent is bitter that Alicent obeyed her father and conformed to the social expectations of her time and slept with an old rotting man she didn't love and dutifully bore his children with no reward. While Rhaenyra did whatever she wanted, had babies with a sexy man she loved and got to be heir as a reward. Criston childishly wanted Rhaenyra to run away with him. They were in love. She told him she had a duty to marry a man her parent appointed her but didn't see why they couldn't still be together. Had she married her cousin and been a good girl maybe he would have been fine. But she REPLACED HIM with Ser Strong and had 1000 babies. It could have been him! He couldn't stand it and instead of admitting he wished he had just been her side piece he lied to himself that she was morally unfit to be Queen. From my POV they are both bitter and petty and hiding it behind self righteousness. Rhaenyra has the privilege of her position to live above the social rules in a way they don't have the courage to. And maybe couldnt get away with. They HATE her for it. Rhaenyra is forthright, direct and honest. Not sneaky. They hate that too. There's a purity and innocence to her. I think low key they both love her. It has been twisted into hate by jealousy and bitterness.
She’s also battle-tested, so she has that going for her. She’s quite fierce as a result. But otherwise yep, she definitely lacks the speed and agility of younger dragons.
Like they say, fear the old man in a job where young men die (i know it's a she, but you get the gist). Battle-tested old peeps are a force to be reckoned with, or at the very least still something to be very cautious of.
Ok i know its probably not true but the fact that that Cristin and Alicent are hooking up is so weird bc it feels like they are trying to connect with rhanerya😂like is the dragonrider energy that strong? Idk but glad to be back in Westeros!
@@MatthewTheWanderer: It's not insane nonsense, it's a very prominent theory; it doesn't have anything to do with why she said "they killed the boy", though.
@@hoon_sol Okay, I suppose IF there is more evidence than that, lol. But, it definitely sounds insane to base that theory solely on the way she said "the boy".
You blame Criston for sleeping with Rhaenyra? Let's keep the same energy when male bosses sleep with female employees? Let me see how your feminism takes that
Where in the world did you get that lol????? I'm literally saying that since Rhaenyra got heat for sleeping with Criston (which is justified), Alicent should also get heat as they both are in the same higher up position. I also teased the irony that Criston got so mad at Rhaenyra at the concept of being her 'whore' while he's literally being Alicent's whore right now but yeah the angry feminist strikes again!
That shrek well somebody better be dying had be dying 😂😂
Enjoyed your reaction. That episode was gut wrenching.
Daemon's dragon and rhaenys dragon are both dragon capable of killing vhagar so daemon was right if meleys and caraxes fight vhagar , 1v1 or together in a 2v1 vhagar is loosing
Haha funny you are.
1v1 Vhaegar wins 90% of the time lol.
@@melkor3496 you dont read the book, meleys was stated to be strong enough able to kill vhagar and caraxes killed vhagar, nice copium tho lmao
@@melkor3496 90% of the time? Funny how vhagar got killed by a dragon smaller than her you dont read the book stop cope
@@melkor3496 nice copium, you will see in season 3 lmao🤣🤣🤣
@@tajaemartin2251 I have read the books but couldn’t argue for my point without spoiling for her but I guess you don’t care.
Will respond tomorrow
I still think the Hightowers are in the wrong. They stole the throne.
Snakes haha
I mean…. duh😂
The King's first born son is the heir. Viserys stole Aegon's birthright in his guilt for murdering Aemma and to keep Daemon away from the throne.
@@rohanshende4338 Westeros had no unified law around succession until 52 AC.
Different regions followed different customs at different times. Over the millennia some kings in some of the kingdoms that had been independent before the Conquest issued edicts pertaining to inheritance, but in other regions there were only informal norms that could vary greatly by locale or the decisions might be left to the whims of the local liege. Most often a daughter would inherit after a son but before a brother. Sometimes a daughter would inherit after a son or brother but before a cousin. Sometimes even a bastard son would inherit before a legitimate daughter. Sometimes an adult daughter might inherit before her brothers only if they had not yet come of age. Sometimes a daughter couldn't inherit herself, but her sons would inherit before her younger brothers. Sometimes an adult brother or cousin would inherit before either a son or daughter that was still a minor. Sometimes a lord would leave a will naming his preferred heir despite the existence of much closer blood relatives. Often inheritance was just a matter of who could seize power and defend it.
Before 52 AC, it was not uncommon for a lord to disinherit a child from a first marriage in order to let a child from a subsequent marriage inherit instead (especially if the second marriage was to a more prominent house). It was also not uncommon for heirs to kick their widowed stepmothers out to die or live in poverty (especially if the stepmother was from a less important house). The Widows Law explicitly forbid both practices. An heir was required to maintain any widowed stepmother and her children in the style to which they were accustomed unless and until she remarried, but no man was allowed to disinherit any child from his first marriage in order to give that birthright to a half sibling. It seems that the law did still allow a man to disinherit one child in favor of a full sibling from the same mother though, as Jaehaerys did when he chose Baelon over Aemon's line when Aemon's heir was an underaged girl.
There is no doubt that a son of Aemma would inherit before a daughter of Aemma, but there is a strong case that it would have been illegal for Viserys to let any child of Alicent inherit before Rhaenyra.
@@rohanshende4338 boy please ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha even aemond say the usurp the throne from rhaenyra
Read a comment on different channel pointing out how sad Cheese's eyes are when he realizes Helaena is telling the truth. That, and how he had to hold knife with two hands to contain his shakiness.
on the bright side, as independent contractors go, the "rat-catchers" proved to be quite reliable
[Long comment] Power imbalance: you are technicaly right with Alicent and Criston. We didnt see their first interaction on screen so it could have gone just like Rhanerya's with him hesitating.
I will say Criston probably cares far less about this now, he already forsaked his vows with Rhanerya, and later tried to self-end after snapping when Leanor's bf threatened him.
Its clear both Alicent and Criston have a lot of bitterness toward Rhanerya and are a bit harsh in their evaluations of her. But they both were in one way or another betrayed by her and do have grounds to be angry with her in the first place. She was a bit wreckless in how she treated them both when she was young.
We honestly never saw Rheanyra have a bit of regret or show any bit apologetic to either of them in season one, did we? In a perfect world, none of this would be happening. She would apologize to each of them and they would be mature enough to accept the apology. But she didnt. She was Viserys' favorite child and while Alicent was the Queen she at least seemed to have sincerity toward other's in her younger years.
All this being said I still support Team Black and Rhanerya's claim, i just do think she did a whole bunch of screwing up and causing problems for others when she was the heir and why now she has as many enemies as she does.
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What did Rhaenyra do to wrong them? From my POV Alicent is bitter that Alicent obeyed her father and conformed to the social expectations of her time and slept with an old rotting man she didn't love and dutifully bore his children with no reward. While Rhaenyra did whatever she wanted, had babies with a sexy man she loved and got to be heir as a reward.
Criston childishly wanted Rhaenyra to run away with him. They were in love. She told him she had a duty to marry a man her parent appointed her but didn't see why they couldn't still be together. Had she married her cousin and been a good girl maybe he would have been fine. But she REPLACED HIM with Ser Strong and had 1000 babies. It could have been him! He couldn't stand it and instead of admitting he wished he had just been her side piece he lied to himself that she was morally unfit to be Queen.
From my POV they are both bitter and petty and hiding it behind self righteousness. Rhaenyra has the privilege of her position to live above the social rules in a way they don't have the courage to. And maybe couldnt get away with. They HATE her for it. Rhaenyra is forthright, direct and honest. Not sneaky. They hate that too. There's a purity and innocence to her. I think low key they both love her. It has been twisted into hate by jealousy and bitterness.
It’s really going in with a huge bang with doing Blood and Cheese right at the start of S2. Hopefully that Dog will get his revenge
not a spoiler but just remember that vhagar is old and slow. she may be big but that’s the only thing she has going for her 😂
She’s also battle-tested, so she has that going for her. She’s quite fierce as a result. But otherwise yep, she definitely lacks the speed and agility of younger dragons.
Like they say, fear the old man in a job where young men die (i know it's a she, but you get the gist). Battle-tested old peeps are a force to be reckoned with, or at the very least still something to be very cautious of.
Vhagar is also the only dragon currently able to breathe fire hot enough to melt castle walls, like Balerion did at Harrenhall.
Ok i know its probably not true but the fact that that Cristin and Alicent are hooking up is so weird bc it feels like they are trying to connect with rhanerya😂like is the dragonrider energy that strong? Idk but glad to be back in Westeros!
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there's a theory that the kid is not helaena's son, the way she said they killed "the boy"
That is insane nonsense!
@@MatthewTheWanderer:
It's not insane nonsense, it's a very prominent theory; it doesn't have anything to do with why she said "they killed the boy", though.
@@hoon_sol Okay, I suppose IF there is more evidence than that, lol. But, it definitely sounds insane to base that theory solely on the way she said "the boy".
You blame Criston for sleeping with Rhaenyra? Let's keep the same energy when male bosses sleep with female employees? Let me see how your feminism takes that
Where in the world did you get that lol????? I'm literally saying that since Rhaenyra got heat for sleeping with Criston (which is justified), Alicent should also get heat as they both are in the same higher up position. I also teased the irony that Criston got so mad at Rhaenyra at the concept of being her 'whore' while he's literally being Alicent's whore right now but yeah the angry feminist strikes again!