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Thanks Ben - looking forward to the Norden/T7 comparisons to come. Maybe I should get in line for the 2023 T7 - by the time it would become available, I might have saved up enough!
Yamaha has started shipping lots of 2022 recently. Just got your dealer and get on the waiting list and it will be there before you know it. I got my 2022 last week and couldn't be happier.
Dork… I appreciate your love for MotoCamping… I own a Harley, so my off road capabilities are limited. But, as our friend Amanda would say. “Get out and do the ‘Thing!” So I manage. I have fun and I learn something new every time I go… this Summer I need to go! Thanks again Dork!
Just picked up mine last week for luckily just MSRP! I definitely echo all of the same things you said. Playful, dialed geometry, an all around great bike so far!
Hey Dork I have a Harley V-Rod and a motocross dirt bike. I bought a DRZ last year because of you and now I will probably try to find a T7 for more of the adventure bike experience, thanks for keeping me poor. Lol.
It’s interesting that the rider aids seem to be a key differentiator for you. The rider aids on my Norden work well however even if they were missing I still would’ve chosen the Norden. After riding my buddy’s T7 the biggest differences to me are suspension, brakes, power, center of gravity, comfort. These fundamentals are a step ahead of the T7. AND the Norden has cruise control! 😁
@@nuur2825 that’s simply untrue. I’m actively involved in Norden owners groups and forums. The majority are enjoying problem free motorcycles. The only significant reliability issue is shock failure and that is among a small number of Nordens. Don’t let the loud minority fool you into believing there are major issues.
You are a braver man than I, I don’t know that I would take my T7 intentionally on a snow-covered asphalt road if that was asphalt I may be wrong. Especially with those tires. I have to concur about the seat I felt like the stock seat was trying to spread my pelvic bone apart like a vise. I put the rally seat on and it’s 100 times better it’s narrower at the top and it’s more comfortable. Great video, cheers from Texas
The T7 despite having a 34" seat height is really wide on the seat and tank which makes it feel really tall. Also I agree 100% with the windscreen, I replaced mine with one that is a few inches taller. The new screen blocks the wind so perfectly. Another great plus is that any exhaust you put on it the bike sounds amazing.
T7 for the win!!! Might as sell the norden now lol. I LOVE the looks of the norden, but the harsh reality is that it's really a ktm in husqvarna clothing.
Seat concepts seat will make a huge difference. Steg pegz on the T7 make standing more comfortable. Vstream mid windshield is a lot better than the stock screen for improving the air flow. Congrats on the new bike!!
I changed the tires on my T7 early because the handlebars became jiggly after a few thousand kilometers. Many other T7 riders say the same. I swapped them for the continental TKC70 rocks. Another significant mod on my bike is the high exhaust from hp corse. I f you drop the bike to the right, the damage can get really ugly with the stock exhaust.
Get your self a pair of bark busters for hand grips protection. Aussie made also check out finer filters with a pre cover over filter. Nice blue T7 riding in snow looks fun, Good footage Thanks Internet riding buddy.
12:45 - I have to agree about it feeling like a big dual sport bike. I test road my brother's T7 on Sunday, trying to get back to justifying the "need" for one. It felt like my DRZ or KTM on steroids, with the smooth power delivery of my KTM's fuel injection.
Looks like a fun bike to ride, i was starting to think the Tenere 700 was a made up myth since no dealer ever has one. the small fuel tank and short range are a problem for "adventure" seekers, we don't always know where the next gas station is. looking forward to video updates on how it rides.
I love my T7 it makes me want to go off-road more than on the street. Even though it does well on the street. Glad you finally got one to ride. The seat I am still searching for a good alternative for now AirHawk for the long hauls.
Another great review full of honest assessments and insightful observations. Love your videos! Got my Dork in the Road T-shirt the other day and actually wore it today while installing new shocks on my Harley Road King. Almost ready to put it on the market and replace it with an adventure bike.
Super special with the Alanis morissette song 🤣 Today was the opposite of new bike day for me. Sold one. It's always hard to see them go. Hopefully, it's in a better place now.
I have had my T7 for a year now. Yes get the sliders for the wind screen, Seat concepts makes a great comfy rally seat. I ran the stock tires to 6k miles then upgraded. Also on Ebay you can get the fold able/flip levers for the brake/clutch. Really cheap. I have run them 10 months with no issues. And Acerbis hand guards.
Back in September I put a deposit on a T7. I was at the top of the list (#1). In early February or so, I cancelled the deposit after debating for 2+ months that I probably needed to spend the money on replacing / fixing the well that provides water to my house. That particular T7 arrived the first week of March. There were 5+ people in line on the list at that point in time, which I heard when someone told me a T7 had arrived. The dealer called those 5 people, none of them wanted it. The 6th person got it. By that time I was having good results with a temporary water system in my house, so I put a deposit on a T7 again. I'm #3 on the list now.... but since then, I've been very close to cancelling my deposit again. Fast forward to a week ago today (Thursday) and I heard that a dealer in the next town over from me had a T7 waiting to get shipped from a warehouse on the coast. Last Friday I called and said I want it. Sadly, I've waffled multiple times all week about the "need" for one. I already have two bikes, a DRZ (which I've had since 2006) and a 2019 450 EXC-F Six Days KTM (which is awesome on trails in WA and at 10,000' + elevations in Colorado where I took it in 2020.
I have in my stable almost the same bikes as you a 05 drz400E and a 13 wr450f. I got a T7 about a month ago and I couldn't be happier with it. But it is a total different machine than the other two. I wanted a bike for longer distance exploring and motocamping and this bike is absolutely perfect for that. I suggest you buy it and try it and if it doesn't work out for you, sell it!
When you went FT last year I was hoping you'd be able to try a bunch of different bikes. Glad to see you getting to try this one...its high on my want to try list someday. And ya....stock tires suck
Nearly 20k here in Aus. You’re right about powering thru the corners off road. Basically steers from the rear. Great fun once you get comfortable with it.
I've had my T7 for a couple months now and my first impressions are very positive. I'm seeing lots of comparisons (rightly so) between the Norden and T7. As similar as they are in a general sense (weight/twin cylinder/displacement), they differ significantly in price, features and level of performance. I see the T7 as an entry level ADV bike - one that you can ride straight out of the box, or mod up to your liking and get closer to the performance of the Norden (particularly as it relates to the suspension). But also a bike that also has a high level of performance relative to ADV type riding. It's certainly not going to hold me back in what I'm intending to do with it. Of course, you're not going to add the rider aids/electronics, etc. If those are important to you, then you'll choose the Husky (or another bike in this category) over the T7, For me, the major differentiator is reliability. I do a lot of solo riding in the mountains of southern Oregon. I can be 20-30 miles from the nearest paved road without too much effort. I want/need to reduce that risk of breakdowns as much as possible and reliability is one of the primary ways to do that. I don't think the Norden or any of these similar bikes compare to the T7 for reliability based on the CP2 motor, simplicity in design and overall Yamaha track record. For me, that pretty much trumps all the bells and whistles. And, the bike rips!
Cool review I got a black 2022 last week. It's amazing how well they handle on the road and how easy it is to drift them in the dirt. PS the singing could use some work 😆
Good choice turning around. Dropped mine for the first time in similar conditions. Not going to lie, I wasn't sure I could lift it up by myself and was very scary
Thanks for the video. Just put the Touratech Pro Windscreen Bracket on my T7. Works like a dream allows for one hand adjustment while riding. A little pricy compared to the other adjustable brackets but nice to not have to stop to adjust. Adds a little over 2" for the highway.
@@Josh-ew1le If you go with that one be sure to fully set the well nut first, then install. I skipped that step the first try… Doh Other than that it was a breeze.
To the Pirelli Scorpion STR. On road, they're grat. On gravel, dirt and sand they do a grat performance because of the excavating nobbys. On wet roads and mud, there is non traction at all. I use them because of the 50/50 Str. and offroad capabilities. And I go out for a ride on dry weather. Otherwise I'm just careful.
Two weeks ago the guys at Cross Training Adventure put out a video on Chinese made bikes. I was shocked that several BMW and KTM bikes are made in China. Makes me wonder about the Norden and the quality control issues I have read about. Loving your channel.
Instead of ordering a seat concept seat you should check out Mr Ed's Moto in Albany. They do a phenomenal job with motorcycle seats. It will be made to fit your needs. You can be there while it's being made and fitted to you. You choose the colors and type of material and foam. You can even have a heating element installed. I had a custom seat made for my KTM 690 enduro and I'm very happy with it.
Loving it! Can't wait to see what you think once you've got some better tires. The Scorpions aren't *bad* tires, but they're more of a 80/20 tire than anything else - they're pretty darn good on the street but very meh offroad. Definitely have to agree about capabilities and feeling: it's an incredibly nimble, capable bike, and it makes you feel like a better rider because it's so easy to ride, BUT without TCS/ride modes/etc it requires you to *ride* it, or you'll end up eating dirt - it won't save you if you make a mistake. I've put mine down hard 5 times now :) Fortunately, it's tough, and stands up to abuse well. I strongly recommend grab rails for the rear, as it's pretty tough to pick up without them (given its height and high COG).
I've been riding on my OEM tires for a year now and watched massive amounts of tire revues. I think I might got with Motoz Adventure on the back and a TKC 80 or Motoz DV on the front.
I swapped out the Pirellis for Shinko 804/5 I like them a lot. Now I have the Motoz GPS rear and the TKC80 front love ‘em too! The Tenere 700 is a fun machine!
Back when you had your KLR650, I was toying with getting that before moving on to an Africa Twin, but tye "doohicky" debacle turned me off of it. Then I thought about a KLX300 just so I could hit the trails, but based on what the economy has been doing, I thought I'd better not risk it, if I wind up getting less than half what I paid, when I go to sell it. So, I'm going to just pay off my ZX-14R, then the car, then save for the Africa Twin. I've had a taste of being debt free, and it's awesome! To have money available to "play", or take care of emergencies or invest, or whatever.
T7 walks a fine line of "If you want it, why not get an actual dual sport" the center of gravity and cost both push me to something like the 300 Rally. It's 4 Grand cheaper (but the suspension is really bad)
@CRASH ALEXANDER honestly the Dr650 seems like the best ADV platform, but the money and work is a lot to take on to get it to the individual's preferences. I've heard about beta, but haven't looked into them. I'll probably do that soon
i would love the tenere 700 but the suspension is for people at 70 kg ? im 89/90 kg so im really annoyed i would have to spend money on a new suspension right from the start :/
Hey Dork, I bought a 2022 DR650 in January and have put 2500 miles on it. I am thinking of switching to the Tenere 700. What are your thoughts one over the other? Thanks!
Watched the video. Personally I thought since you had a KLR that you could include comparisons with that bike along with the T7 & Norden. You should be able to give some good insight. They all fit into their own $$$ category and I would be interested in your thoughts if in certain situations/conditions more $$$ = better or not
Your review of the KLR mentioned that you should have gotten that bike prior to the Africa Twin. Do you feel the same with the T7, or should you have gotten the KLR first (prior to the T7)?
I'm fixated on the T-7 , does wind protection really matter that much when riding off road? I would be trailering most of the time to trails but will want the option to do street at times. I was surprised that you took her out without bark busters at least, in those snowy conditions.. but I guess I couldn't have waited either!🤔😉 Great first impressions, can't wait for more!
Did they update the spring rates on the newer models? I remember the first ones were rated for about 70kg (150ish lb?), what made heavy weights like us use up about 60% of the (progressive) suspension just by sitting on it x) Keep up the good work, my internet riding buddy!
7:26 - Here's a good explanation of the rear suspension geometry and how the bike plants itself under acceleration: ruclips.net/video/5WJvQqeQpe8/видео.html
It seems like quite the bike, I was very tempted by it myself, but would need to lower it... and then the Aprilia came out that was a smidge lower 🙂 Hahaha.... "Thank you!" :D
The much more direct comparison would’ve been the Tenere 700 compared to the Husqvarna 701 Enduro, don’t you think that would’ve made more sense??? I certainly do
I love everything about the bike when I read the specs but I could never own one for the same reason I passed on a 390 Duke. I'm shallow and I think they look derpy. 🤷♂️
Can tell you just love your situation getting both! Do you get buzzing/vibrations through the footpegs on your t7? I just got mine, but i dont know of It’s normal or not.
OK as a T7 owner since 2020 (see my 5K Review: ruclips.net/video/n4JSjxSrnEU/видео.html) I will offer some suggestions to increase your experiences with the T7: 1) Dump the Pirellis ASAP - MotoZ Tractionators work super well on the T7 2) Do the simple seat (reverse bolt) hack - makes getting to the battery compartment WAY easier (and zero cost) 3) Dump the indicators - first serious off will rip off the front OEM Clown car units - (I actually put low profile R3 indicators on my fronts) 4) Best seat for the T7 (IMO) - Seat Concepts low. I can literally ride 300 miles on that seat in good comfort (10 week order time) 5) Get the T7 Rally screen adjuster kit - will allow you to raise the screen height. Inexpensive, easy hack - buffeting gone 6) I am 5'8" and the T7 was just too tall for me - I put the Rally Raid 20mm links on mine - perfecto - so much more control and no sacrifice in performance offroad 7) Dump the side stand kill switch - first serious off and it will get ripped off. T7 Rally makes a jumper switch for it - works fantastic. 8) I am a fan of heavy duty bar ends - I went with the Hepco Beckers - the Bark Busters got wonked after one spill in deep sand. 9) I am a big fan of Camel ADV products for the T7 - the anti bobble kit for the Speedo and the Galfer rear brake pads are 2 of the best upgrades I did to the bike. 10) Definitely a 2 fingers on the clutch all the time Bike - I went for shorty levers - much better comfort than the OEMs for clutch and brake control off road Its a great bike - love mine more each time I ride it - welcome to the Dark Side. :D
Great looking motorcycle and entertaining video. Seems like an oversimplification between the bikes to frame the difference as "are rider aids good or bad." Because you can just as easily turn them off on the Norden, maybe a fuller comparison is - is it worth +$4k to you to have the rider aids available when you choose. Like on a long BDR day or running around like a hooligan with explorer mode backed off enough to just save your ass at the last second.
Are you going to update your trailer to fit both bikes inside? You need to bring both bikes to the rallies. You now have a new topic for presentations. Have both bikes for show and tell. When is your daughter getting her DL. Perhaps you will be able to keep both.
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You can't argue with the T7. I should have kept mine so I have something to ride when my Norden is in the shop, like it is now. :)
Yeah you've inspired me to probably keep mine even if I end up liking the Norden better 🤣
What a KTM in the shop? Just kidding. Is it a regular service or a minor issue?
Can’t beat a Yamaha for reliability.
@@srizzle-e8w a major issue
Thanks Ben - looking forward to the Norden/T7 comparisons to come. Maybe I should get in line for the 2023 T7 - by the time it would become available, I might have saved up enough!
Yamaha has started shipping lots of 2022 recently. Just got your dealer and get on the waiting list and it will be there before you know it. I got my 2022 last week and couldn't be happier.
Just in time for tenre 900 😀
Dork… I appreciate your love for MotoCamping… I own a Harley, so my off road capabilities are limited. But, as our friend Amanda would say. “Get out and do the ‘Thing!” So I manage. I have fun and I learn something new every time I go… this Summer I need to go! Thanks again Dork!
You can do it!
Pretty sure i want one. Wow! That's saying something. That it feels more like a dual sport than the KLR. Damn you Dork! I'm gonna need one 😡
Almost there, Yamaha. I'm happy with my 1050 V-Strom.
Just picked up mine last week for luckily just MSRP! I definitely echo all of the same things you said. Playful, dialed geometry, an all around great bike so far!
Great real world review Dork. I’m always jealous of your riding area. Keep up the great work!
Hey Dork I have a Harley V-Rod and a motocross dirt bike. I bought a DRZ last year because of you and now I will probably try to find a T7 for more of the adventure bike experience, thanks for keeping me poor. Lol.
It’s interesting that the rider aids seem to be a key differentiator for you. The rider aids on my Norden work well however even if they were missing I still would’ve chosen the Norden. After riding my buddy’s T7 the biggest differences to me are suspension, brakes, power, center of gravity, comfort. These fundamentals are a step ahead of the T7. AND the Norden has cruise control! 😁
Major reliability problems on the Norden though.
@@nuur2825 that’s simply untrue. I’m actively involved in Norden owners groups and forums. The majority are enjoying problem free motorcycles. The only significant reliability issue is shock failure and that is among a small number of Nordens. Don’t let the loud minority fool you into believing there are major issues.
You are a braver man than I, I don’t know that I would take my T7 intentionally on a snow-covered asphalt road if that was asphalt I may be wrong. Especially with those tires. I have to concur about the seat I felt like the stock seat was trying to spread my pelvic bone apart like a vise. I put the rally seat on and it’s 100 times better it’s narrower at the top and it’s more comfortable. Great video, cheers from Texas
The T7 despite having a 34" seat height is really wide on the seat and tank which makes it feel really tall. Also I agree 100% with the windscreen, I replaced mine with one that is a few inches taller. The new screen blocks the wind so perfectly. Another great plus is that any exhaust you put on it the bike sounds amazing.
keep the T7 videos coming. Picked up my T7 this last Saturday and may have to do some of the same mods you have done and will do.
The snow gods love you, what fun that you got unseasonable snow to add depth to this content.
Pun intended? ;)
Great video but me than anything...you nailed the Alanis song 😂🤣😂
Loving this series!
Good stuff. I like that blue bike.
Another quality production. 👍
T7 for the win!!! Might as sell the norden now lol. I LOVE the looks of the norden, but the harsh reality is that it's really a ktm in husqvarna clothing.
Seat concepts seat will make a huge difference. Steg pegz on the T7 make standing more comfortable. Vstream mid windshield is a lot better than the stock screen for improving the air flow. Congrats on the new bike!!
I got my t7 2 weeks ago and love it and I’m the same I hate the tyres great on the road but nothing else. Great video 👍
I changed the tires on my T7 early because the handlebars became jiggly after a few thousand kilometers. Many other T7 riders say the same. I swapped them for the continental TKC70 rocks. Another significant mod on my bike is the high exhaust from hp corse. I f you drop the bike to the right, the damage can get really ugly with the stock exhaust.
I've been worried about that exhaust as well, seems like it could or would be a major issue sooner or later.. how much is that mod.??
Get your self a pair of bark busters for hand grips protection. Aussie made also check out finer filters with a pre cover over filter. Nice blue T7 riding in snow looks fun, Good footage Thanks Internet riding buddy.
Congrats Ben, beautiful bike.
This T7 is so beautiful. Damn
Great Ride... :) Rain is ending here in Minnesota so i get get my Tenere out again.
“Looks like a Casio watch from 1993.” 😂
Livin the dream! Awesome bike
You and this bike look one together 👍
Wish I lived closer I would come ride with you looks like so much fun
12:45 - I have to agree about it feeling like a big dual sport bike. I test road my brother's T7 on Sunday, trying to get back to justifying the "need" for one. It felt like my DRZ or KTM on steroids, with the smooth power delivery of my KTM's fuel injection.
Agreed.
Looks like a fun bike to ride, i was starting to think the Tenere 700 was a made up myth since no dealer ever has one. the small fuel tank and short range are a problem for "adventure" seekers, we don't always know where the next gas station is. looking forward to video updates on how it rides.
I love my T7 it makes me want to go off-road more than on the street. Even though it does well on the street. Glad you finally got one to ride. The seat I am still searching for a good alternative for now AirHawk for the long hauls.
Another great review full of honest assessments and insightful observations. Love your videos! Got my Dork in the Road T-shirt the other day and actually wore it today while installing new shocks on my Harley Road King. Almost ready to put it on the market and replace it with an adventure bike.
Love your content! Keep it up! 😃
Super special with the Alanis morissette song 🤣
Today was the opposite of new bike day for me. Sold one. It's always hard to see them go. Hopefully, it's in a better place now.
I have had my T7 for a year now. Yes get the sliders for the wind screen, Seat concepts makes a great comfy rally seat. I ran the stock tires to 6k miles then upgraded. Also on Ebay you can get the fold able/flip levers for the brake/clutch. Really cheap. I have run them 10 months with no issues. And Acerbis hand guards.
Back in September I put a deposit on a T7. I was at the top of the list (#1). In early February or so, I cancelled the deposit after debating for 2+ months that I probably needed to spend the money on replacing / fixing the well that provides water to my house. That particular T7 arrived the first week of March. There were 5+ people in line on the list at that point in time, which I heard when someone told me a T7 had arrived. The dealer called those 5 people, none of them wanted it. The 6th person got it. By that time I was having good results with a temporary water system in my house, so I put a deposit on a T7 again. I'm #3 on the list now.... but since then, I've been very close to cancelling my deposit again.
Fast forward to a week ago today (Thursday) and I heard that a dealer in the next town over from me had a T7 waiting to get shipped from a warehouse on the coast. Last Friday I called and said I want it. Sadly, I've waffled multiple times all week about the "need" for one. I already have two bikes, a DRZ (which I've had since 2006) and a 2019 450 EXC-F Six Days KTM (which is awesome on trails in WA and at 10,000' + elevations in Colorado where I took it in 2020.
Just buy it! Make a decision man! Lol
Nah don’t, but maybe do…
I have in my stable almost the same bikes as you a 05 drz400E and a 13 wr450f. I got a T7 about a month ago and I couldn't be happier with it. But it is a total different machine than the other two. I wanted a bike for longer distance exploring and motocamping and this bike is absolutely perfect for that. I suggest you buy it and try it and if it doesn't work out for you, sell it!
Sell the KTM and the DRZ and get the Tenere. I sold my two BMW touring bikes and bought a 2022 Tenere 700 and couldn't be happier.
When you went FT last year I was hoping you'd be able to try a bunch of different bikes. Glad to see you getting to try this one...its high on my want to try list someday. And ya....stock tires suck
Nearly 20k here in Aus. You’re right about powering thru the corners off road. Basically steers from the rear. Great fun once you get comfortable with it.
I've had my T7 for a couple months now and my first impressions are very positive. I'm seeing lots of comparisons (rightly so) between the Norden and T7. As similar as they are in a general sense (weight/twin cylinder/displacement), they differ significantly in price, features and level of performance. I see the T7 as an entry level ADV bike - one that you can ride straight out of the box, or mod up to your liking and get closer to the performance of the Norden (particularly as it relates to the suspension). But also a bike that also has a high level of performance relative to ADV type riding. It's certainly not going to hold me back in what I'm intending to do with it. Of course, you're not going to add the rider aids/electronics, etc. If those are important to you, then you'll choose the Husky (or another bike in this category) over the T7, For me, the major differentiator is reliability. I do a lot of solo riding in the mountains of southern Oregon. I can be 20-30 miles from the nearest paved road without too much effort. I want/need to reduce that risk of breakdowns as much as possible and reliability is one of the primary ways to do that. I don't think the Norden or any of these similar bikes compare to the T7 for reliability based on the CP2 motor, simplicity in design and overall Yamaha track record. For me, that pretty much trumps all the bells and whistles. And, the bike rips!
Cool review I got a black 2022 last week. It's amazing how well they handle on the road and how easy it is to drift them in the dirt.
PS the singing could use some work 😆
I love the T7 content and the Alanis cover at the end. I think the subs will balance out.
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Good choice turning around. Dropped mine for the first time in similar conditions. Not going to lie, I wasn't sure I could lift it up by myself and was very scary
Yeah I feel like I need to get a few more miles on it before I start breaking it.
Sounds like the T7 impressed you! Great motor, but yes, agree seat sucks. Great scenery there. Nice video.
Thanks for watching!
You definitely sound more excited about the T7 than about the Norden.
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Thanks for the video. Just put the Touratech Pro Windscreen Bracket on my T7. Works like a dream allows for one hand adjustment while riding. A little pricy compared to the other adjustable brackets but nice to not have to stop to adjust. Adds a little over 2" for the highway.
Thanks for the recommendation!
I think I'm going to order one, I like the fact that it uses the stock windscreen.
Cheers!
@@Josh-ew1le If you go with that one be sure to fully set the well nut first, then install. I skipped that step the first try… Doh
Other than that it was a breeze.
Excellent Vid. A++
To the Pirelli Scorpion STR. On road, they're grat. On gravel, dirt and sand they do a grat performance because of the excavating nobbys. On wet roads and mud, there is non traction at all. I use them because of the 50/50 Str. and offroad capabilities. And I go out for a ride on dry weather. Otherwise I'm just careful.
I have absolutely zero reason why but I like the Norden more and I’m not sure why. Maybe the colors
Two weeks ago the guys at Cross Training Adventure put out a video on Chinese made bikes. I was shocked that several BMW and KTM bikes are made in China. Makes me wonder about the Norden and the quality control issues I have read about. Loving your channel.
10:14 Happiness on 2 wheels and 2 feet
Instead of ordering a seat concept seat you should check out Mr Ed's Moto in Albany. They do a phenomenal job with motorcycle seats. It will be made to fit your needs. You can be there while it's being made and fitted to you. You choose the colors and type of material and foam. You can even have a heating element installed. I had a custom seat made for my KTM 690 enduro and I'm very happy with it.
i advise the PUIG Adjustable windscreen bracket! Overpriced but super adjustable on the fly while riding.
cool video work on this one, have you learned to do a 180 kickstand turn
Yes
Try the Motoz Tractionator ADV tires , you'll love them offroad .
Loving it! Can't wait to see what you think once you've got some better tires. The Scorpions aren't *bad* tires, but they're more of a 80/20 tire than anything else - they're pretty darn good on the street but very meh offroad.
Definitely have to agree about capabilities and feeling: it's an incredibly nimble, capable bike, and it makes you feel like a better rider because it's so easy to ride, BUT without TCS/ride modes/etc it requires you to *ride* it, or you'll end up eating dirt - it won't save you if you make a mistake. I've put mine down hard 5 times now :)
Fortunately, it's tough, and stands up to abuse well. I strongly recommend grab rails for the rear, as it's pretty tough to pick up without them (given its height and high COG).
I like your dorky style a lot, I guess because I feel that 8 bits inn the same way ;)
do you have tubeless tyres or stuck tyres ?
Great vid, looking forward to more. I'm tempted to trade my Tracer GT in for either the Ten7 or Norden/890R.
Really hope you have good luck with the 901. There have been some seriously mixed signals on reliability from the 901.
It's okay to go around a puddle. What is with you and riding in the snow? Good video! Loving the views!
Where's the fun in going around?
What tires do you like, for adv riding?
I've been riding on my OEM tires for a year now and watched massive amounts of tire revues. I think I might got with Motoz Adventure on the back and a TKC 80 or Motoz DV on the front.
I swapped out the Pirellis for Shinko 804/5 I like them a lot. Now I have the Motoz GPS rear and the TKC80 front love ‘em too! The Tenere 700 is a fun machine!
Back when you had your KLR650, I was toying with getting that before moving on to an Africa Twin, but tye "doohicky" debacle turned me off of it. Then I thought about a KLX300 just so I could hit the trails, but based on what the economy has been doing, I thought I'd better not risk it, if I wind up getting less than half what I paid, when I go to sell it.
So, I'm going to just pay off my ZX-14R, then the car, then save for the Africa Twin.
I've had a taste of being debt free, and it's awesome! To have money available to "play", or take care of emergencies or invest, or whatever.
Anyone else feel like he already made up his mind and prefers the Yamaha? That's how I see it. The right choice imo
T7 walks a fine line of "If you want it, why not get an actual dual sport" the center of gravity and cost both push me to something like the 300 Rally. It's 4 Grand cheaper (but the suspension is really bad)
@CRASH ALEXANDER honestly the Dr650 seems like the best ADV platform, but the money and work is a lot to take on to get it to the individual's preferences. I've heard about beta, but haven't looked into them. I'll probably do that soon
i would love the tenere 700 but the suspension is for people at 70 kg ? im 89/90 kg so im really annoyed i would have to spend money on a new suspension right from the start :/
Mind sharing what road this is in Oregon?
Great video! If u could only have one, would it be t7 or norden 901?
Hey Dork, I bought a 2022 DR650 in January and have put 2500 miles on it. I am thinking of switching to the Tenere 700. What are your thoughts one over the other? Thanks!
Isn't the T7 seat height about the same as the KLR? Both 34"?
Watched the video. Personally I thought since you had a KLR that you could include comparisons with that bike along with the T7 & Norden. You should be able to give some good insight. They all fit into their own $$$ category and I would be interested in your thoughts if in certain situations/conditions more $$$ = better or not
Is it really a fair comparison if you don't get the T7 slideways? :)
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Can you post the link to the Colorado Bdr trip you are hosting?
Not hosting. Just attending. advtours.com/cobdr-adventure/
Your review of the KLR mentioned that you should have gotten that bike prior to the Africa Twin. Do you feel the same with the T7, or should you have gotten the KLR first (prior to the T7)?
I'm fixated on the T-7 , does wind protection really matter that much when riding off road? I would be trailering most of the time to trails but will want the option to do street at times. I was surprised that you took her out without bark busters at least, in those snowy conditions.. but I guess I couldn't have waited either!🤔😉 Great first impressions, can't wait for more!
You would be doing that bike an injustice by trailering it.
Did they update the spring rates on the newer models? I remember the first ones were rated for about 70kg (150ish lb?), what made heavy weights like us use up about 60% of the (progressive) suspension just by sitting on it x)
Keep up the good work, my internet riding buddy!
7:26 - Here's a good explanation of the rear suspension geometry and how the bike plants itself under acceleration:
ruclips.net/video/5WJvQqeQpe8/видео.html
Yeah, that's what I was referring to. ;)
It seems like quite the bike, I was very tempted by it myself, but would need to lower it... and then the Aprilia came out that was a smidge lower 🙂
Hahaha.... "Thank you!" :D
What tires are you going to swap over too. Thanks
I'm putting a d sport on the front. Not sure about the rear yet
The much more direct comparison would’ve been the Tenere 700 compared to the Husqvarna 701 Enduro, don’t you think that would’ve made more sense??? I certainly do
Man, nice but looks like it will wear you out quickly trail riding, more of a handful, than the KLR !
I love everything about the bike when I read the specs but I could never own one for the same reason I passed on a 390 Duke. I'm shallow and I think they look derpy. 🤷♂️
Can tell you just love your situation getting both! Do you get buzzing/vibrations through the footpegs on your t7? I just got mine, but i dont know of It’s normal or not.
A little but it's pretty normal.
Probably a good idea to turn around with those tires in that shtuff. Lol
Id love to have one, but......you know.
How tall are you, Dork? I am picking up a 2022 Tenere this month.
I'm 5'10"
@@DorkintheRoad Thanks for taking the time to reply. Loving the channel. Subbing now
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OK as a T7 owner since 2020 (see my 5K Review: ruclips.net/video/n4JSjxSrnEU/видео.html) I will offer some suggestions to increase your experiences with the T7:
1) Dump the Pirellis ASAP - MotoZ Tractionators work super well on the T7
2) Do the simple seat (reverse bolt) hack - makes getting to the battery compartment WAY easier (and zero cost)
3) Dump the indicators - first serious off will rip off the front OEM Clown car units - (I actually put low profile R3 indicators on my fronts)
4) Best seat for the T7 (IMO) - Seat Concepts low. I can literally ride 300 miles on that seat in good comfort (10 week order time)
5) Get the T7 Rally screen adjuster kit - will allow you to raise the screen height. Inexpensive, easy hack - buffeting gone
6) I am 5'8" and the T7 was just too tall for me - I put the Rally Raid 20mm links on mine - perfecto - so much more control and no sacrifice in performance offroad
7) Dump the side stand kill switch - first serious off and it will get ripped off. T7 Rally makes a jumper switch for it - works fantastic.
8) I am a fan of heavy duty bar ends - I went with the Hepco Beckers - the Bark Busters got wonked after one spill in deep sand.
9) I am a big fan of Camel ADV products for the T7 - the anti bobble kit for the Speedo and the Galfer rear brake pads are 2 of the best upgrades I did to the bike.
10) Definitely a 2 fingers on the clutch all the time Bike - I went for shorty levers - much better comfort than the OEMs for clutch and brake control off road
Its a great bike - love mine more each time I ride it - welcome to the Dark Side. :D
Great looking motorcycle and entertaining video. Seems like an oversimplification between the bikes to frame the difference as "are rider aids good or bad." Because you can just as easily turn them off on the Norden, maybe a fuller comparison is - is it worth +$4k to you to have the rider aids available when you choose. Like on a long BDR day or running around like a hooligan with explorer mode backed off enough to just save your ass at the last second.
I agree!
T7 looks way cooler with the high front fender kit.
Are you going to update your trailer to fit both bikes inside? You need to bring both bikes to the rallies. You now have a new topic for presentations. Have both bikes for show and tell. When is your daughter getting her DL. Perhaps you will be able to keep both.
New subscriber. Congrats on the new bike man, this is my dream bike.
Check out Pal Torres, the seeker. What this bike can do is truely amazing.
I really don't like top-heavy bikes. Everything else about the T7 looks great, though.
What? Bolts came loose on a Japanese Bike? Are we sure the earth still spins?..LOL Thank you for the update.
That was an oversight by whomever assembled it at the dealership
I think you should go back.. You missed a few potholes.
I want one of these so bad I can't stand it.
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Ktm guys will buy the Norden. Everyone else will buy the Yamaha.