What REALLY Happened to Holden
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Holden was once Australia’s most iconic automaker, but just this year, General Motors has announced that their Aussie brand will no longer exist by next year? What happened? Join Nolan and explore Holden’s long history, from their coach-building roots, to the beloved 48-215, to the Monaro, the beach cruising Sandman and to their DOWNFALL. What really happened behind the scenes? WHO KILLED HOLDEN?
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I promise to never do an Aussie accent again. What's your favorite Holden model?
Donut Media It was passable @NolanJSykes
Donut Media my favourite Holden was the VS series commodore Ute also the one I own
The William Holden
VZ SS Commodore, thing is killer
Still the Monaro.
As an Australian, I'd like to thank whoever did the subtitles 😂
The real mvp 👌
Aussie are the best I’m from Queensland
hope he never ever tries to do an aussie accent ever again. why can we do a yanky accent and they can't figure ours out? i have heard one of the units of power as the being the "horse power" but what the f is a hrspwr????? so from the very first car they ever built Holden was just a chev with a Holden badge so rejoice as much as you all want a bout it being so Australian. it's about Australian as Ford??????
never been so entertained by subtitles before
@@tylersmith2952 ayee me too, I'm in Mackay
Last time I was this early, SAAB was the only car company I was crying for. Born from jets.
I own a Saab Sonett III and a 2004 Pontiac GTO (which is a Holden)... So all of my cars are from brands that GM brutally murdered.
keep the faith brother the SAAB will rise AGAIN
Mitsubishi also builds jets but they never brag about it
@@sethmoyer Long live the fallen ones 🖤
I drive a 900, and I feel you. Born from jets, killed by assholes...
Love is great, love is golden, most Aussie kids were made in a Holden.
Lol
This is gold
I love that
Hahaha fucking legend 😂😂
In a sandman specifically.
Gonna be honest, at the end of the video I actually started tearing up, I’m really glad tho that an American did a video about Holden, it means so much mate I really hope you know that. Loved the “I will remember Maloo” at the end as well, love ya for that bro
I have a 2013 Chevy(Holden) Caprice. Solid car, and their resale values skyrocketed after the closure of their birthplace. Nowadays you'll end up paying more than the original MSRP to buy a SS (commodore) in second-hand.
me to i loved the ute holdens are police force has changed from holdens to skodas dammit new Zealand. and they were every where now they are slowly dying aand are getting hard to see
Seeing this comment makes me think of Australian artists who start their careers here in Australia and still live here, don't get recognition outside of Australia. No wonder why our industry was struggling (and possibly still are) during the hard lockdown period!😤
@@spitfirewill241 The problem is the Holden Commodore has become front-wheel drive.
@@cheetaih true
Wow..Pontiac, Saturn, Holden---GM sure knows how to help destroy things.
Nobody misses Saturn lol.
General Motors are fucking useless. If it wasn't for US government bailouts they'd have been out of business years ago.
And Saab
Zero Ninety lol yeah along with about every other large car manufacturer.
Saab to😞 but gm arent The only reason Saab closed down but they still owned them when it happend
As an Australian, and someone who lived near the plant, and talked to a number of the people there (from the floor, to upper management), I'd have to say that this video is about 30% of the story, and about 1/2 correct. There's so much more that happened, but I don't expect you guys to know any of it.
Thanks for bringing at least some of this story to America, I really appreciate it. Some of the 5,000_ people who called the Holden plant their lives would thank you too.
Even as someone who's more in to Hondas than Holdens, I would have fought tooth and nail to keep that factory there, employing Australians and producing unique and useful vehicles til my dying days. Those people deserved to be there, and GM had no fucking idea what the Australian market wanted, which was proven after they axed the Elizabeth plant and started importing the Opel Insignia, calling it the "New Holden Commodore".
Imagine if GM axed the Camaro and imported some random European sedan, and rebadged it "Camaro" and then expected every American to welcome it with open arms. That's what happened to us in Australia. It doesn't even matter than the car was more powerful, or fuel efficient, or had the same towing capacity. The Commodore wasn't a spec sheet, it was an Australian designed and manufactured vehicle, made by and bought by Australians. To feed us some Euro car with the same name was just rude. Even Ford had the decency to axe the 'Falcon' namebadge after they stopped making the car in Australia. It really makes you realise how poorly managed GM is, and how the faster they fold and pull out entirely, or just completely bin their management and rehire, restarting from the ground up, the better America, and the world will be.
fredmackay Many Americans were pissed off when GM got bailed out in 2008 and proceeded to do the usual corporate bailout gig of laying off thousands and giving the executives. Their quality has increased since then but I won’t ever buy a GM car simply because they’re not worth my business. Perhaps Holden could have better survived if they were allowed to spin off as their own domestic brand. Let Holden live as a domestic only manufacturer in Australia until they gain enough capital to start exporting again. Although that would mean competition from a former part of GM and American exporters of cars only really care about their domestic divisions and to them foreign markets only exist to make their domestic products better
well said mate, i live in adelaide aswell and nearly everyone i knew, knew someone that worked at the plant past or present. the new "commodore" was a disgraceful decision on there part and bringing in cheaply made imported car from Thailand just took the cake. i have my own part of holden history sitting in my shed as a reminder of what they were, a car designed and built by aussies, and enjoyed by aussies.
I love Holdens and when your buying a Holden people want a rear drive V8 with a manual not a tt V6 like the “new” commodore, GM fucked Holden with changing what we had to what they wanted. In the commodores Australian built life it never had a 4cyl engine because people don’t want them. Also the union party were demanding higher pay for people on production lines and some cracked over $100,000 a year for putting a car together. This is for donut
Well said mate, Love @donutmedia a lot, But wish they mentioned some of this
@@thatproracer6268 early commodores did come with a 4cyl motor...
"remaining 25 workers" I was working there when the last car come off the line there was still a couple hundred of us working there
Also the last car off the line was a SSV redline
Bloke got about 750k at auction eh
GM: The Electronic Arts of cars.
GM almost destroyed the Opel too. Fuck.
João Pedro opel? They don’t sound cool
That's a huge diss
GM destroyed Daewoo
r/rareinsults
as an aussie i can confirm i did shed a tear when i found out holden shut down
Only thing sadder was when both Steve Irwin AND Peter Brock passed away in the same week.
@@gozznut true that, rip
Lifelong Ford fan here but that was a sad day for me too
I didn't since they've spent the last 20 yrs treating their customers like crap, their after sales service is/was atrocious 🤷♂️
@@5lcalais1 but the cars, they where great
I like whoever put in the "aussie" subtitles. Makes for an interesting read haha
shouldn't all the text be upside down then?
They 're gold
You Seppos just don't get it
Andrew Rollason you Australian?
@@aloseronline4659 Yeah. We are the best nation on earth. We can ride in the front seat of a taxi.
As an Aussie I've been a Ford man all my life. The demise of Holden saddens me greatly. In Oz, Ford, Mopar and Holden people put shit on each other all the time, but if anyone of us break down it's always the Holden guy helping the Ford guy or Mopar guy helping the Holden guy etc. Aussies love performance V8 cars. Yes we are loyal to our brand, but we are street machine supporters first. We relate more with the U.S than Europe. Call it a colony thing.
I have been a Ford man my entire life, 82 ford falcon xe sports as my first car in 91, then bought a Mitsubishi which was totalled parked outside along with 5 other cars, selling my 2000 ford explorer us xlt tomorrow and get a Holden VT commodore executive stationwagon monday
For us, you were literally a for or Holden family
I know this is a year old but...
I reckon it was probably if not the best thing about our car culture; Just putting shit on each other and having a laugh.
With my parents growing up as "Aussie tuners / street racers" With my grandpa owning a 71 torana and grandma owning a 82 falcon it was always the shit talk amongst the family that made us a family. We're all gear and rev heads.
When I was born, My mother had a really nice clubsport with my father having an AU falcon and well we all know how that goes (Which he now owns a mustang)
But at 16 (now 22) I got my very first VY II Commodore and my sister well... she got a nissan silvia and that broke my dads heart HAHAHA but I'll always remember watching the Bathurst and all the V8 series screaming at my dad and sister that ford sucked and Holden was always superior HAHAHAHA
I think myself as what they call "the future generation" will miss the most is having my kids not have the same experience with what I had. Shit sucks :(
I have a mate with an XC Cobra, I have an EK Holden. We now talk about Australian made cars, there is no more brand conflict
Few figured this out, but I had a father that worked ten years in GMH Elizabeth. He raved about working in secret rooms to design the headlining of HQ's and all sorts of probable bullshit. Anyway, what I did learn from being in the army and travelling across the country was that it was easier to get Holden parts in SA, and easier to get Ford parts in Victoria.
Lol they went all out with the Aussie subtitles
Rip Holden
that's billiant haha
Thank you donut
but it's not upside down...
ǝʇɐlsuɐɹ⊥ ǝlɓoo⅁ oʇuı sıɥʇ ǝdʎʇ oʇ ǝʌɐɥ ɐuuo⅁
Nice Easter egg
Everyone outside Australia:
Who's gonna buy a racing sedan pickup?
The Australian market:
Holden my beer, mate
V8 utes are undeniably the most practical sports car in history. Not selling mine any time soon
@@Cammac8 Commodore Utes are pretty compromised from a utility perspective - can only handle 500kg in the tray due to IRS, and if you get one with a hard lid they are even less practical in most ways than a hatchback or wagon. Falcon ute is better due to live rear axle (1200kg load), but trades some of it's sportiness away for it. The biggest sell of the Commodore/Falcon ute isn't actual practicality but rather bogan street cred.
@@tmmtmm if Holden Commodore ute owners wanted to actually put more than 500 kg in the bed, they would get aftermarket suspension better suited to the loads
@@dukeboreham2782 The limitation is not the rear springs compressing under the weight, it's the strength of the suspension arms and monocoque chassis. The suspension design is exactly the same as what is in the sedan/wagon and not designed for carrying heavy loads. If you put >500kg in an IRS commodore you risk buckling/breaking the suspension arms and chassis, even if you fit super stiff springs. There are a few funny pictures floating around of Commodore utes with hectik camber on the rear wheels and laying chassis on the ground after the suspension arms gave up under the load.
Holden made a '1 tonne' version of the ute that came with a box tray/bed, live rear axle and leaf springs if you wanted more load capacity (>1000kg as per the name) - sporty it was not. The girlytruk crewman also came with live axle and decent load capacity if i'm not wrong.
I'm an American and that's all I really want. A muscle car with a bed. I need the bed here and there, and love the look of street trucks, but D by do any heavy hauling or towing, and a muscle car would be best for me 75% of the time... So I want both . But El Caminos are all old, inefficient rustbuckets now, or else they're in prime condition for a hella big price and still noisy, uncomfortable, fuel sucking cars... I want something like the Holden Ute, where styling, comfort, and efficiency has kept up with the times all the way to today.
The guy that did the Closed Captions, is an absolute legend! 10/10
Rewatched the video with cc to see and I completely agree
👍👍
Officially rooted
Whoever was responsible for the aussie subtitles is a genius.
Appreciate the shoutout to my old Scottys Garage video. At least you guys give credit - Hoonigans don't give you nothing.
you guys are great
Scotty.. hurry up with the turbo taxi vids..
You know we love you Scotty (Y)
school: closed
donut: heres your history lesson
an incredibly incorrect and ridiculous history lesson lol
if these guy teach me about history (car)
i can listen to these guy all day
Lol
As an American I apologize to all Aussies for the loss of their iconic brand.
The only American apology i can get behind.
Why?? They thought they could build and use cheap shit from Asia and then expect customers to be loyal, most of the new models like the rodeo etc had a rebadged ISUZU engine- they shat on their fans and so we stop buying their shit
@@jamesrountree3991 yep well some of the isuzu shit is alright but it isn't what it used to be 20 years ago they went wrong when they started using European shit
Why? The locals wanted to buy from Asian Dealership
@@Kuronekaux bro where u from
GM really knows how to kill a car company
They did the exact same thing to Saab in Sweden. And Saabs were & still are beautiful cars.
Aided by the greedy union
Mary Barra shut it down. Must've got paid a sh*tload to give the order.
@Brad Willis Saab brought it upon themselves
@@bradwilliams7683 correct. I had a 1998 Saab Scania 9:5, my mum got the Saab GM, it was cheap and nasty compared to my Saab. Such a shame as Saabs were way ahead of there time.
YO everybody check out the captions, I think they had Ozzy man do it for them
Watched it again because of you. No regrets. I’m American.
Oh, this is fucking great!!! I was confused for a second, but this has to be the greatest Easter egg ever!
came to the comments to see if anybody else noticed! hilarious
I love how you called us ozzy like we are an Osborn 😂 Aussie my guy 🤙🏼
@@kellyscars I cant see it?
So GM basically are automotive industry version of EA
Yes
So basically youre immune to facts and completely ignored the part of the video which proved that the only reason Holden was successful to begin with was due to American styling and LS V8s in their performance models. Try again.
@@julianneallen7185 yes indeed
@@DesertStateInEU GM bought holden because they were struggling and it was cheap, they squeezed out all the life out of holden and then threw it away. Guess what company does that but with videogames, EA
EA is trash until they release a Skate 4 game
The last generation GTO and SS are probably the most underrated cars out there. Blast to drive and will likely be collectors items in a few years. Go git you one of dem’!
My G8 is the best car I've ever owned. It just doesn't break! I can't keep tires on it though. :)
@@rickprice6312 I forgot about the Caprice PPV! Now that’s a nice Sleeper too!
The last Holden made in Australia, a VF series II SS V Redline, completed late morning of the 19th of October 2017 was sold to the public at an auction for $750,000 and a HSV GTSR W1 Maloo sold at the auction also in a private bid amongst HSV’s inner circle board members for $1,050,000 3 days ago. 30th January 2021
The W1 Maloo had an HSV plate with a build date of 29/12/2017.
So it might have a claim to be the last Holden. But from HSV Clayton Victoria not Holden at Elizabeth South Australia.
Which is the real last, or perhaps another of the four Maloo W1 cars made but not seen much yet.
ive heard rumours that the car was crashed and a complete write off after being purchased, could be fake or under wraps as there is no media coverage about it
Short answer: GM
Long answer: General Motors
I hate GM but they had been running the company since the 30s.they ran it for 90 years which is not bad.
the video proves otherwise but for the memes F GM!!!!
GM actually the only reason it survived for so long. The Australian dollar makes it hard to make a profit hence why no one manufactures there anymore.
@@CJGOM We're talking about modern GM. Old GM made good cars. Modern GM has a huge brand body count
@@filmandfirearms GM is like the EA of the car industry
OMG, turn on CC for the "Australian" translation! It's a riot!
haha, that's awesome
Ikr
That is maybe the funniest thing I have seen on Donut.
missed that, I'm going to watch it again
Awesome - hidden Donut Media ‘egg’
As an Australian I will miss Holden Deeply especially Commodore's 😭
Same, I will always want a Commodore
As a guy who literally grew up in Clayton Vic. I'm going to miss HSVs.
Commodore’s are shit
@@chaseattenborough6483 NO
@@chaseattenborough6483 yeah, biggest bogan pieces of shits around.. falcons too 😂
Holden died because of what GM lacks: Competent management.
British Leyland anyone?
One thing that wasn't mentioned was how GM had the profitable (at the time) GM Holden purchase Daewoo, aka GM Korea, which took up a lot of Holden's resources. Then the influx of relatively low-quality Daewoo vehicles to Holden's lineup like the Barina (Chevy Aveo) & Viva (Chevy Lacetti -- aka the reasonably priced car) did little to boost Holden's reputation for quality.
@@TheRealFobican worse they lied and stole aussie tax dorrars
@@TassieLorenzo that’s true. Donut media mentioned something customers economical, he does have a point, because I used to know someone who used to work for the Holden manufacturing plant for almost 20 years and he was saying one of the issues with Holden was they weren’t mechanically the best as they used a 1960s standard engine to this day and just made the exterior parts of the engine look new/modern when it wasn’t instead of updating their engines or moving forward with the times
Lack of competent management and corruption was a big part of the Holden story in Australia too.
Nolan: "when did things start going... *wrong* ?"
Close Caption: "tits up"
Me: are we playing angel/devil?
God damn you nappa
Lol I had to re watch it with captions on
Nolan: "...Holden is officially out of business"
CC: ...Holden is officially ROOTED
GM is probably one of the most poorly run, disappointing car companies, with the exception of Chevrolet, they make awful cars, their days of glory are long behind them and they just kill off or sell great brands as they slowly shrivel up and die.
Well yeah...they're ran by a female.
Jack Off You’re joking. They aren’t all dipshits you know. Of course there will always be the needle in the haystack, but that’s normal to have stupid people.
Why make an exception for Chevy? Chevy cars are trash too. Their only good product is the Suburban/Yukon, which has to be good because it's their flagship model.
LoneWanderer360 Corvette, Camaro, Silverado are all pretty good
@@thectcarkid4654 My company has Silverado and Express in the fleet and they are garbage. About half of them needed new transmissions in the first 50k miles. We don't even do any towing.
Me being an Australian watching this makes me sad 😭
SunBeam same here :(
watch it with the subs on to brighten your day
Even moreso when you're from Adelaide and having Holdens made in your home city was a big deal :(
Same here man i have a Commodore SS and I love it i was going to buy another Holden but the one type I’m looking at is now way to expensive rip Holden every one shall shred a tear for the best Car company in the world in memory of Holden
same
Yesterday I saw a Holden VL Turbo doing burnouts in the street. I love Australia
Nice not gonna forget Holden
you shoulda filmed it and put on youtube
@@jxmai7687 okay?
@@jxmai7687 i didnt even say a place mate so stop trying to butt in
Like every other day?🤣🤣🤣
I'm actually thinking about avoiding commodores and falcons....sick of everyone trying to race me all the time..
On behalf on all of Australians, I thank you guys for covering this for all of us down unda. You guys are killing it. Thank you guys so much
Adelaide gets a mention,
Me - becomes incredibly patriotic
And with a name like that!
Cooper Anderson brought a tear to my eye
Radelaide
Proudly Adelaide born and bred here, at least we've still got the brewery and who knows, F1 is shit in Melbourne, maybe we'll lobby to bring it back here
@@user-wd5mx9ec3p gotta love mad March
When he was talking about a W1 they put in footage of a ssv 😅😅
Yeah ik, im tired of donut doing that lol
Yeah that did my head in
i know!
Me as an aussie truly miss the Holdens. It was a sad day when they closed;(
The aussie equivalent of SAAB cars, they both have cars based on at least one opel chassis platform.
Blame the union
I think you mean "Party at the front, business at the back."
eggxackery!
I think you mean party in the car, business nowhere
@@bobwarpath2395 dude, cement mixers fit in a ute
The "Last Car" pictured is an SSV Redline Commodore, not a W1
The last car made was an SSV, but what many consider to be the last Aussie made car was a W1 that rolled off the HSV line in January 2018. That was the last true Aussie car.
@@1spunkymonkey2 Just wanted to clarify, as people may assume that the Commie pictured was the W1, which looks far more aggressive than the SSV
Yep thats fax the last car "off the line was a ssv" but the last car designed and produced was the (gtsr)(gtsr w1)(maloo).
HSV ordered Commodores way before the closure of the factory, thus the W1 being the last Commodore
Whoever changed the subtitles to Aussie slang is amazing.
U know you’re a true Aussie when you watch stuff like this.
To be true blue aussie you've gotta be able to say you've built one, bought one and borrowed one.
@@frazzledazzlem1921 couldn’t said it better.
To be a true Assie you have a VB LONGNECK at 20 to 8 in the morning for breakfast
2:12 (CC) "Aussies were crackin' fats"
Yes.
Yes we were.
The subtitles sent me! That's hilarious! Someone in oz got a good laugh out of it fer sure
Bless those subs.
I come from a “Holden family”, dad always had a commodore growing up. He had a gold LJ Torana XU-1 before I was born too. I’m still driving a 2014 VF, and it’s gonna be hard to say goodbye.
In addition to the A9X, the SLR 5000, the HDT VK group C, and of course the later Walkinshaw cars, I love the fact that in 2016 you could still get an SS-V wagon. Ideal rig.
mmmm love the vf
Nolan Sykes:
"Likes to wear wet socks"
My guess your next title is
Nolan Sykes:
"Wears toeless shoes"
Im just thinking of other titles
Nolan Sykes:
"Baritsu master"
Or
Nolan Sykes:
"Owns the best pair of glasses in the world"
Or even better, those shoes with toes.
@@QuattroZack1 I was thinking the same thing.
Not only Aussies, As an immigrant i will also miss Holden❤️
If you hold an Australian citizenship you are Australian.
Many migrants in Australia. Some 1st, 2nd, 3rd generation and more.
"One blue planet"
Checking prices of Maloo GTS ... Some close to $900K !!!
The amount of Holden content lately is what’s getting me through this quarantine
Glad I own a 2016 Chevy SS.
I plan on swapping out the Chevy badges for the Holden ones.
Thats what i would do, If i ever get my hands on a manual SS, Id love to convert it to an "hsv gts", with an LSA blower, body kit parts, and interior pieces etc.
@@flexinclouds you must have long money. Just for the bumpers it's a ridiculous price.
The irony is so many Aussies with an SS have swapped the Holden badge for Chevy..
@@blackeagle4 we don't talk about those people
respect from Australia dude
As a g8 owner, I love Holden, so sad to see it go.
The man can't spell doughnut or pronounce the letter z but he knows his Holden history very well. Well done
It was okay not very well
"Should GM bring back Holden if viable? I think so. I'm just not Holden my breath"
I hope they do, but is more probable some bloke buys the rights and resurrects it.
Australia should make something completely new that is 100% Aussie so we don't have the China issues were having now!
I was just thinking about that and depending on what the price for it is, I would do it. BTW I am Australian so it would make it a 100% Aussie
No one was buying their imported garbage, they didn’t make any cars that were really to good in any class...
ian vader spot on I don’t know why the Australian people did not have the option of purchasing Holden or the Ford Au plant. Fuck Clive Palmer should have purchased one of em
GM are stop making RHD vehicles. So unless those countries that drive on the left convert to the other side, there will be NO Holdens made by GM again.
I love how non-Australians can look at a holden and then say it's beautiful, but if you ask just about any Australian the first descriptive word that comes to mind is "bogan".
After seeing or hearing your 169th black Holden ute doing burnouts at 1AM in the morning you tend to start associtating "Bogan" with "Holden". The Commodores were good cars though.
It was the people who drove them....they were the problem.
oh and the cars were solid, not great but purpose built for Australia.
@@juergunmagerkinsquirter1280 yup. Like the Aussie built Falcons, the Commodore was virtually bulletproof, and parts were cheap and plentiful, unlike overseas based models. I've owned both Commodores and Falcons, and though they weren't the best technically, and didn;t have the latest and greatest tech, you couldn't kill them...even missing a service or two didn't kill them. Really many a bogan who did own them, didn't look after them, but they somehow kept driving when supposedly 'better' cars, like Toyotas, Mazdas, Hondas, etc, would have long died.
Nothing wrong bogan mate
I dunno man, I've heard plenty of yanks talk shit about Aussie car styling... and fair enough too, some of their cars look like ass to my Aussie eyes too! 🤣😉
Ahhh yes, the ve/vz commodore. Australia’s favourite lawn ornament to the local crack house
Would be closer to the vt-vy generations, vz-ve is more P platers
You mean vt
Aiden Doak yeah as the vz/ve are the cheapest on the market now where most vt/vx’s are too bashed to use
As a South Australian, I can remember driving past the Holden factory in Elizabeth. Elizabeth is a northern suburb of Adelaide. I am sad that Holden shut down because they were Australians who made Australian cars in my home state of South Australia. Great video! :D
Do an Up To Speed on the Ford Falcon!
Y’know, Australia’s other national sports car that ALSO recently got discontinued
Do yourself a favour and google Bolwell Nagari 500. Then slap yourself for calling the falcon a Sports Car.
would be great for the barra to get some recognition
Aidan why they are shit
The Falcon was a dinosaur that should have been given the bullet a decade ago. The FG-X was based on the same platform as the fucking AU from the mid 90s for God's sake. The XR6 Turbo was a hoot, but only in a straight line, and only in the dry.
Old Man In A Boxster lol get mad. The reason they were better was because they didn’t have engine technology that would date back to the 70s yet u whinge about how old the Falcons are? Ok then. Plus I think the whole point of an Australian car is for it to have a good motor (being ranked the highest on the list because that’s what actually drives the car), be fairly cheap to run, do long distances, sit a load of people, be reliable (unlike the pushrod princess’s over in the Bommodore camp) and a car in which u can have fun with like chucking it into a corner and kicking the rear end out instead of being all serious captain Bogan with lap times. It’s not a Ferrari mate. Besides that, Ford ticked all of those boxes all the way up until the end. As a matter a fact it sounds like you’ve never driven a Falcon. No wonder. Must be one of them lot. The crowd follower. I’ve driven an XR6 Sprint and it shows that they still knew what they were doing in the end. After all they sold out immediately.
This is how mad max starts! We are all going to start fighting to get parts for our vt's haha
Mad Max dosent start like that. Idiot. And is predominantly a Ford car movie.
Fords rule the apocalyptic future
@@rhettcorbett3346 The joke totally went over your head.
Pretty sure modern day mad max drives an AU forte.
@@tcbgarage2845 . Well I do
GM ruins literally everything they touch
*EA CARS , ITS IN THE SALE*
First Saab and Pontiac, now Holden... :(
Including their own cars.
@Josh Lafoe Great examples of boring car manufacturers. The only cool things they make is camaros and corvettes.
Idk man, my Geo Prizm is still kicking strong 25yrs on.
They were the absolute best subtitles I have ever seen on a video, bar none. That was beautiful.
Day 107 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad
*Watching this video as he cries in Australian*
i remeber you from day 2 lol
i remember u from somewhere
You really arent giving up arent you
My man keep going
Once again,isn't it a little offensive,like come on he jokes about it but I don't think you should.
Everybody read the captions. They offer a whole new meaning to everything he says. Put on captions, especially if you are from australia
Cheers... And it was fucking hilarious
That's gold! 👍
Way better!
Yep Good Translation! from the Kiwi we miss em too
Couple of minor inaccuracies, but thanks soo much mate for doing a vid on this, love the subtitles.
As an Australian, the subtitles greatly helped make this video understandable.
I've got my two V8 Holden's that i bought new and they are staying with me till death!
Well they certainly won’t be driven anywhere
Are you related to Eero Saarinen?
@@TheLexiconDevils why ? they're not Fords
Me Too , VR SS and a 450hp VX Calais
Me to Jarno but couldn't afford to buy a new Holden so purchased a 2002 Holden VX Calais which I've just finished rebuilding all running gear an panel an paint here in NZ. This old girl has 537 whp now NA but want more now an she raw's when you give her the Jandle. To the company who are still making parts over in Aussie please don't stop anytime soon please.
How to save your car company :
Step 1 : Stay away from GM
Step 2 : finished
@Joshua N. Ajang True. EA also Out here shutting down companies everywhere while producing garabage themselves
Rip Pontiac. It saved GM and then was discarded
Holden and Opel entered the chat
@@janwrede4555 Opel seem to be back on track after PSA bought them.
That wasn't an option for Holden since they were bought early by GM to enter the Australian market in the early 20th century. They even started off building coach kits on Chevy platforms before they spent millions of pounds on an "All-Australian" car, even though it was heavily influenced by mid-size Opel platforms and was styled on Chevrolet bodyshells.
The captions though...
Despite being a Ford fan in Australia, Holden had a special place in Australian automotive history. There is definately a market for powerful sedans and Ute's
bruh this felt like an up to speed on holden, but rip holden either way :(
Lewie The Ex-Commie we had one of those a couple months ago but you aren’t wrong, like and an up to speed where are they now?
I’m not Holden my breath. I cannot believe you missed that opportunity
I could tell when Holden was on its way out, it's when they started bringing in a rebadged version of the Chevy Equinoxs and the Acadia which Holden had never done meaning something was going down
CAN YOU PLEASE DO A VID ON THE AUSTRALIAN FORD FALCONS!!!! OR FORD AUSTRALIA!!!
Americans only seem to hear about the Holden’s. The Falcon are just as important in Australian motoring history.
Ok these closed captions are GOLD, spot on about Bitsaremissing too.
The last time I was this early James's dad was still here.
same :,(
Dude, harsh
So... never
So you are his wife????
This has to be watched with BOTH the audio playing, AND (while) you keep your eyes on the closed-caption text going by. Hysterical!
Day 5 of asking up to speed on the ford falcon
One thing: Don’t sell your company to GM!!
Or Ford
@@esheel826 at least after Ford is done, the brand is still alive
Unfortunately for Holden he had no choice as he was going bankrupt so sold it to gm to save the company, In 1930 or whatever it was, it got sold long before Holden ever made it's first car lol
RIP Holden, my favourite car company since I was a kid down here in Australia😥
I really wish holden to be resurrected but the costs of building and people going with cheaper made cars.
i.e Kia, Mazda, Hyundai.....
There's a rich history of Holden motorsport as well, it's sad to see it end.
The v8 supercar series.
Holden v Ford
If you haven’t watched this with captions on you are missing out .
To the cheeky bastard that did it, you’re a bloody legend !
We need up to speed on ford Australia already
or at least the falcon
Yep need the iconic falcon, kills the holdens
Taj Chirn not when they killed themselves first thanks to rubbish drivers like DJ
Agreed 👍🏽
Honestly the falcon always broke down. Commodore was way better
The closed captioning is incredible - well done!
I agree! 😂
Never clicked faster in my life, Love Donut, rest in peace Holden😞
I've owned a lot of Holdens over the years, but by far my favourite was my 1977 Hatchback Torana V8! Absolute classic that I never stop regretting selling.
Last time I was this early, GM was still busy killing SAAB
North miss Saab
Last time I was this early, there wasnt as many economically illiterate kids blabbing about things they know nothing about even though the video provided most of the information for you in order to avoid posting an ignorant comment like you just did.
@@DesertStateInEU last time I was this early, there weren't salty little babies crying in the reply section
10:08 most beautiful singing ever heard👍🏽😭
lmao😂
Nolan deserves a raise for this.
This needs to be watched with the subtitles on for Aussie translation.
You guys did a really good job on this, as an Aussie I can attest that this is accurate. The prices of HSVs has gone nuts ever since they stopped making them, their a real flex these days.
you sure? because the cheapest vf maloo i found was worth new base model z money. its the last FPVs and top trim level HSVs you need to worry about
@@marquaviouschester6947 For the 2017 HSV models you would be hard pressed to get one cheaper than $100k AUD.
@@JM0X-007 66k usd? …Plus the costs to ship the shell to the US, and let left hand utes convert it…oh, right.
@@marquaviouschester6947 I was looking at a Gen 2 VF Maloo GTSR and nothing for less than $150k AUD. Shame you have tk convert them in the US. In Aus we can drive left or right handed cars.
@@JM0X-007 no shit. It's a gtsr. That's like me complaining that the demon is too expensive. Also, I didn't know it was gonna be this hard to find an automatic HSV maloo base. Might as well say screw it and get an old or new pursuit/super pursuit for the time being. I already found a ve GTS that I want. Also, idk which is a better performer, the GTS or the clubsport R8
Holden signed their death warrant when they started rebadging Daewoos.
Should have made a modern Torana
*GM started rebadging Daewoos, after buying Daewoo and using them to supply half of all their cars for most of their brands.
Weren't they basically like Open cars the same way as Buick cars are rebadged with slightly design changes open cars in the USA?
@C. Fecteau agreed
@@TheRealFobican Well at least the Opel (Buick) cars looked good and drove well, unlike the Daewoo ones...
Even us Aussies miss having holden being produced in Australia
Colloquially, I'm what's now termed as a fossil. In a relatively short period of time Australia has gone from a fairly proud vehicle manufacturing country to one that now builds nothing. We built GM products & Holdens, Fords, Chryslers, BMCs, Toyotas, Mitsubishis, Nissan/Datsuns, Hillmans and assembled other marques such as Mercedes, Peugeot, Renault. We also assembled tractors such as Fergusons and Fords, we built a vast range of trucks including Internationals, Dodges, Fords, Commers , Macks (I think they're still in production) Austins and many others.
I've listened to all the reasons for decades but I am still saddened by the loss of the industry and the country's reliance on imports.
If a military crisis arose, how could we swing into defence production? What factories remain? We've been caught with our pants down around our ankles with this cursed coronavirus.
We have no fuel reserves and very little capacity to defend ourselves. History has proved to expect the worst when we're most vulnerable. I want to be wrong but it's certainly worth a thought.
Not even a military crisis, look at how we're struggling trying to manufacture and source medical equipment with the current crisis.
@@markhalden3922 These problems are not confined to Australia.
Whenever I'm there, I look for gifts made in Australia to bring back with me. Slim pickings.
High wages/high taxes/high energy costs mean that someone will always undercut you. Getting the government involved makes things even worse. Add to that a tiny domestic market and geographic isolation and you're left with digging stuff out of the ground and flogging it.
If you look, quite a few other world nameplates have added mfg facilities in Canada. Why? Because of NAFTA in regards to the US auto makers. It's cheaper than the US and free to import "domestic" vehicles Then export them for an eve larger profit. Yah, it sux all around but that's what happens when Big Biz; with paid politicians in their hip pockets; allow them to take advantage of the consumer.
i love the subtitles in this, my god. 10/10
Sadly the Chevy SS sedan is the closest I’ll ever come to driving a Holden.
U should look on VINWiki YT, it's possible to get a road legal under 25 yo Holden in US
The Chevy SS is a Holden. An SS Commodore. The market in the USA didn't seem to take to it, but I get that you guys are pretty spoiled for choice.
My dad owns a Holden Commodore SS and its the right hand version of the Chevy SS, the value of the SS Commodore in NZ is going crazy not sure bout the US
@hudson I guess that means we have access to more lemons. We no longer make any cars here. Mitsubishi, Toyota, Ford and Holden (GM) all used to produce here. Now, none of them do, although a few truck brands still build locally (Volvo & Kenworth for example).
@hudson Criminal mismanagement of government grants to Holden + GM USA + Unions = a crippled car manufacturing industry. Rich people don't take losing bets man. That how we ended up in this mess. Funny how the tariffs and luxury tax are still on the imports even though there is no longer a local industry to protect...
I have a Hyundai i30N daily driver, but have a VR R8 in the garage that I've had since new. Glad I have that with low k's so it's value is also climbing. Be sad to cash it in one day though.
Honestly it was cool asf that Australia had their own car I love the diversity of it
GM’s biggest mistake was acquiring Daewoo and thinking that this would answer their prayers for small / medium economical cars. They were absolute garbage!
Apparently they sold well in Ireland.
Why? Daewoo built cars to a price point. As Kia has demonstrated, if that price point moves, quality goes up
Andrew Rollason Daewoo went bankrupt for a reason.
@@re20bt And GM in America didn't go into Chapter XI?
True. It's a great pity Isuzu exited the car building game in favour of SUVs and Utes. The Gemini was a great small car. Far better than any Daewoo.
So sad to see it go, completed my panel beating apprenticeship at Fishermans Bend Plant 3 Experimental. Started in 1956 when the FJ was still in production and the FE hand-built test cars were running around the Langlang testing ground. As apprentices we were lucky enough to have 1 day each at the facility and a ride around the track. My boss and head engineer Bill Hubbard had a lot to do with the amazing success of the First Holden. Bill was a British WW1 Air Ace with 10 victories and survived being shot down behind enemy lines. Sadly, he died in a car accident in Melbourne after retiring. Fairwell GMH, so many memories.
RIP Holden. I remember my 1st time setting eyes on a Chevy SS with Holden badges, such a cool look.
When I first saw an SS with Holden badging I was doing behind the wheel driving lessons, needless to say I tried my best not to freak out in front of the instructor
My family has always owned holdens, my dad used to drive kingswoods and torana's(you wont be disapointed by this one), they bought the 2000's statesman/caprice when i was a kid, bought a lemon white ute from a christian couple, my mum drove a ve commodore as her work car, we got a 2012 caprice to replace the old one. and now im happy to say i own a 2009 commodore ex police car. For as long as i can ill keep driving the brand, hopefully one day having the chance to help bring the company back.
side note, and holden with chevy badges is a war crime lol
It remembers the Ford Australia FPV or Holden special vehicles HSV. Hello from Portugal
Olá from Australia
1:21
Random dude: “So what’s your body count?”
Holden: “34,000 a year”
Screw GM! I hope an Aussie resurrects the brand once the name's copyright lapses & brings back the Holden. I'd do it if I had the millions needed.
Turn on Captions 😂 finally CC for the Aussie 😂🍻
Im going to say it again, GM is the EA of the automotive industry, by the way turn on the captions, is way funnier in that way
Damn, whoever create that subtitle deserve a medal, it's hilarious 🤣🤣
10:02 Dunny door?
Thanks so much for the post. I have a 2007 HOLDEN CALAIS HSVi VE V V8 ... lots of letters, I know. I purchased mine on special order and it is a one-off. It is badged in the engine bay [HOLDEN SPECIAL VEHICLE INDIVIDUAL]. It cost me $75,000.00 brand new and I have never ever had any trouble with it. My model also won the prestigious Australian car award in 2006, WHEELS CAR OF THE YEAR. Your post, and many other reviewer's posts on the demise of HOLDEN, makes me angry every time I see what GM in the USA had done to our national icon. It took away around 200,000 jobs from Australians and as you stated, now there are no cars at all being built in Australia. There are so many Australian billionaires in this country that I have no idea why they just all couldn't get together and save HOLDEN and give GM "the flick". I look forward to the day when HOLDEN will come back. My own car was serviced today, I spoke to the staff about this issue and one Lady told me that HOLDEN had been in her family for over 70 years. Her Father worked for HOLDEN for over 40 years, she's been working for HOLDEN for over 20 years. She has 2 HOLDEN's and now all they are really doing at my local dealership is servicing Australian made HOLDENs, they are hardly selling any of the American and German imported and re-badged HOLDENS. Australians do not want other country's cars calling themselves HOLDENS. I think that this is a great "kick in the teeth" to GM in the USA. Mess with Aussies ... we'll show our disgust by not buying any of your re-badged cars! My car has now increased in price as it is not only rare, but also a one-off. I will never sell my HOLDEN. Again, thanks for the post mate. DM
Amazing video, much love from Australia👌🏻 I wish you had have put in video of the GTSR W1 when mentioning it 😭