There's some at idle, more than the S1KR but I can say I didn't notice anything notable whilst riding. The bike was limited so I was unable to see if there were any higher in the rpm range.
@TheNiceBiker The Tuono is far more aggressive a position with the rearsets being the same position as the RSV4. The M1000R is more relaxed in that respect.
@@abcdefghijk5095 that’s exactly what I did lol. I went with noring risers from Europe and they blend in with the rest of the bike. You won’t notice them, unless you are very familiar with the single R.
Very comparable bikes for sure! The BMW is much smoother and refined where as the Ducati is more aggressive and "raw". With them both being designed for street use (literally in the Ducati's name) it's a shame the Duc doesn't have more mod cons like cruise control and heated grips etc. I'd go for the BMW myself as there's also the Ducati tax on aftermarket parts that's a bit ridiculous 😅
@@newbieriderreviews I bought a SF SP2 cant wait for it to come in. even though this has 2 more HP most people will never be able to get the most out of these bikes and between the mods that will be done it will come down to the riders experience on what is the faster bike around the track. I feel the SFSP2 would be superior overall then even though you pay for it..;) lol
@Farhan K Fair thoughts bud, I like to look at most bikes for their all round usability and somewhat comfort for long rides out with friends. The Streetfighter would definitely get on my nerves after a while haha
The one tested is 25k!!! Gulp... For the money, the S1000R is a better road bike, in my opinion. Never have I rode mine and thought it underperformed or lacked power. Its a full 10k more expensive for 45 bhp more. Some carbon. But I get your point. Do we need 200 mph super cars when a normal car does everything needed. But people still purchase them. Great video, and it's a mint bike.
@brand new biker Agreed, my S1K is more than enough these have some nice upgrades though not just more power but more than just that, they have better brakes, better suspension, more electronic features such as slide control and more programmable modes for custom setups which are all nice upgrades. Don't get me wrong if I was going to go for one it wouldn't be the competition pack it'd be the base one then move all my carbon over from the S to the M
@@Baz1000r fair points, but some people track them etc, 45 bhp extra on a bike is a huge difference though, I’d take either but agree £25k is just too much.
Finally someone riding the thing but seriously wish it had break in so we’d see what it’s really capable of and also retuned with decat to uncork it. From what I’m reading that’s a game changer on the bottom end where stock pretty much limits but to be not much different than the S1000R. As others said, this is a passion play, none of us probably need those extra ponies, but I ride with a group of hooligans on V4S’s so it’ll be nice to match a bit
Thanks very much, unfortunately it doesnt seem like they have an official Indian launch date as of yet. Not too sure on the best sources of information for you guys though, but i could suggest heading to your nearest BMW Dealer and have a chat with them regarding it!
Would you take the M1000R Comp over the 2023 Streetfighter V4S? So similar in spec, tech and price. I love the V4 engine, single sided swing arm and some other bits of the Ducati. However this has so many upgraded extra with all the carbon for the same price as a new Streetfighter. I've sat on the V4S and an S1000R (didn't have the M in stock), however I cannot test ride them, my left leg doesn't work very well and my bikes require an electronic shift controller.
I put a two teeth larger sprocket at the rear and a one tooth sprocket at the front of my older 2016 S1000r and then took one of these for a ride and found not to much differance it torque and power. Try it on your S1000r you will be suprised.Carbon wheels are an over expensive overkill.
Hi, It's difficult to say to be fair bud, the lighter wheels will definitely make a difference in the turn in and the wings are more to reduce front end lift at higher speeds. It did seem that they caught the wind more than the S1KR though and pushed me a bit more when going into an open area with a crosswind. Brakes are a big upgrade on this for sure too!
Great bike and thanks for the review)) Only competition version goes with carbon wheels no way to buy them apart heard from BMW. Actually choosing between Ducati V4SP and M can’t decide 😳😳😳yet
I highly recommend you get yourself on both and have a good think about what you want and need from the bike. Cruise control is a big win though for the BMW haha
@@newbieriderreviews Exactly !! Cruise control is a must on any superbike. I have no idea why ducati don't put cruise control on their superbikes or their VSP bikes ! But, BMW can't be messed with in the technology department...haha
@Market Trading Genius the fact they call it a "streetfighter" but don't give it some creature comforts always bugs me haha they have said its to "maintain purity" but its just cheaping out I say 😅
Was having the same debate and I’m still torn but opted for the M1KRM. Lots of factors. I test rode a V4S and S1KR (dealer wouldn’t let me ride the spec’d up versions) and had my heart set in the Ducati going in but came away with a different take. While the Ducati is better looking and the ride is bonkers, the BMW checks more boxes. I don’t love the looks as much, but I’ll love saving $10k (and likely more down the road on service - my other Ducs have been money pits). I strongly urge you to go ride them both first.
Ok, thanks for replying)) actually I rode Ducati quite hard couple of days last year. What can I say, it’s a good bike but needs empty roads to show all power, it starts after 9000 revs. In the city traffic it feels nervous and choppy. I don’t use leather clothes so the heat was highly sensitive and uncomfortable. I also noted it’s a bit small but after half an hour was okay. Termignoni exhaust is very loud and feels like you in the Hell all the time. The biggest pro is the brand name Ducati 👍👍 😎😎 I didn’t ride a new M1000R yet but what I know it must be faster and lighter than Ducati plus a lot more city friendly without toasting ass and legs in the heavy traffic. My 2 cents 😁😁😁
"coming back for sausage".. Ofc you are, you never fooled me! 🤣 nah jokes, much love, you already know 😁 Thoughts on the can? I think it looks a bit too long. Great review, as always 👌
Oh man, I just got the "normal" S1000R and when I see the BLACK(!!!) Fuel Cap...... Why can't they put it on every other Bike too??? xD I'm seriously getting mad about this. It's about the little things
Alloy or carbon wheel its an expensive mistake to crack one… the alloy ones are forged and nearly as costly….. all academic because your insurance should take care of this.
Waiting for mine to come in.. And "need" didn't even factor into my decision! 😂
waiting for my M comp to arrive in canada. This video will probably make me more impatient to get it.
beast of a bike
Indeed it is!
Beast bike
Nice bike 🎉
Newbie, did you feel any vibrations in the handlebars and/or footpegs at high speeds ?
There's some at idle, more than the S1KR but I can say I didn't notice anything notable whilst riding. The bike was limited so I was unable to see if there were any higher in the rpm range.
Evotech bar ends significantly reduce vibration
@Mike B Indeed they do. I have my oem bar end weights on my S1KR which made a decent difference
Fantastic
It looks like the handle bars are straighter then on the S1000R, which means a more hunched over riding position.
Yes they are flatter and give a more aggressive position. but is not much different at all really.
Yep just like an aprilia tuono v4 factory lol
@TheNiceBiker The Tuono is far more aggressive a position with the rearsets being the same position as the RSV4. The M1000R is more relaxed in that respect.
You can always put some risers on it. I did that to my S1000r.
@@abcdefghijk5095 that’s exactly what I did lol. I went with noring risers from Europe and they blend in with the rest of the bike. You won’t notice them, unless you are very familiar with the single R.
I’m getting this bike and I’m trying hard to find an exhaust. I’m leaning towards Austin racing atm
How would you compare it to the streetfighter v4s sir newbie. 😁
Very comparable bikes for sure! The BMW is much smoother and refined where as the Ducati is more aggressive and "raw". With them both being designed for street use (literally in the Ducati's name) it's a shame the Duc doesn't have more mod cons like cruise control and heated grips etc. I'd go for the BMW myself as there's also the Ducati tax on aftermarket parts that's a bit ridiculous 😅
@@newbieriderreviews I bought a SF SP2 cant wait for it to come in. even though this has 2 more HP most people will never be able to get the most out of these bikes and between the mods that will be done it will come down to the riders experience on what is the faster bike around the track. I feel the SFSP2 would be superior overall then even though you pay for it..;) lol
@Farhan K Fair thoughts bud, I like to look at most bikes for their all round usability and somewhat comfort for long rides out with friends. The Streetfighter would definitely get on my nerves after a while haha
@@newbieriderreviews lol I agree that is why you need multiple bikes !! Lol 😂
Good little review, life is all about want and not need, how much is it ?
Agreed, but sometimes you have to resist haha! These start from £19,500 there abouts bud.
The one tested is 25k!!! Gulp...
For the money, the S1000R is a better road bike, in my opinion. Never have I rode mine and thought it underperformed or lacked power. Its a full 10k more expensive for 45 bhp more. Some carbon.
But I get your point. Do we need 200 mph super cars when a normal car does everything needed. But people still purchase them.
Great video, and it's a mint bike.
@brand new biker Agreed, my S1K is more than enough these have some nice upgrades though not just more power but more than just that, they have better brakes, better suspension, more electronic features such as slide control and more programmable modes for custom setups which are all nice upgrades. Don't get me wrong if I was going to go for one it wouldn't be the competition pack it'd be the base one then move all my carbon over from the S to the M
@@Baz1000r fair points, but some people track them etc, 45 bhp extra on a bike is a huge difference though, I’d take either but agree £25k is just too much.
Finally someone riding the thing but seriously wish it had break in so we’d see what it’s really capable of and also retuned with decat to uncork it. From what I’m reading that’s a game changer on the bottom end where stock pretty much limits but to be not much different than the S1000R. As others said, this is a passion play, none of us probably need those extra ponies, but I ride with a group of hooligans on V4S’s so it’ll be nice to match a bit
I like this bike bro I am your new subscriber from INDIA. Please tell me when the M1000R launching in INDIA.
Thanks very much, unfortunately it doesnt seem like they have an official Indian launch date as of yet. Not too sure on the best sources of information for you guys though, but i could suggest heading to your nearest BMW Dealer and have a chat with them regarding it!
@@newbieriderreviews Thankyou very much sir for this information.
Can you fold the mirrors?
I have a 2022 S1000RR and track days I just fold them in - great for commuting also. Not sure the bar ends fold?
Are the handlebar vibrations bad
Would you take the M1000R Comp over the 2023 Streetfighter V4S? So similar in spec, tech and price. I love the V4 engine, single sided swing arm and some other bits of the Ducati. However this has so many upgraded extra with all the carbon for the same price as a new Streetfighter.
I've sat on the V4S and an S1000R (didn't have the M in stock), however I cannot test ride them, my left leg doesn't work very well and my bikes require an electronic shift controller.
I ended up with the m1kr
@LifebyDesign Nice! I ended up with the Streetfighter V4SP2. Both great machines.
I put a two teeth larger sprocket at the rear and a one tooth sprocket at the front of my older 2016 S1000r and then took one of these for a ride and found not to much differance it torque and power. Try it on your S1000r you will be suprised.Carbon wheels are an over expensive overkill.
I have one tooth down on my 21 S1KR, between this and mine there is still a noticable difference in power delivery
carbon wheels and that extra weight advantage plays a factor if you are a avid track day attendee. Which this bike is intended for.
Good
Hi champ
how did it handle compare to ours, did it feel easy to change direction or did the wings do anything to hinder the was it turned it etc
Hi, It's difficult to say to be fair bud, the lighter wheels will definitely make a difference in the turn in and the wings are more to reduce front end lift at higher speeds. It did seem that they caught the wind more than the S1KR though and pushed me a bit more when going into an open area with a crosswind. Brakes are a big upgrade on this for sure too!
@@newbieriderreviews thanks for the feed back much apricated
There should be an M button that sticks it in mental mode instead of messing about in menu's
Yeah, like the M cars have the M button on the steering wheels! that'd have been cool haha
what's ur height? tall rider review ?
Any issues with speed wobble?
The previous Gen of S1000R had a radial master cylinder
Vibrations = no balance shafts = higher performance.
Great bike and thanks for the review)) Only competition version goes with carbon wheels no way to buy them apart heard from BMW. Actually choosing between Ducati V4SP and M can’t decide 😳😳😳yet
I highly recommend you get yourself on both and have a good think about what you want and need from the bike. Cruise control is a big win though for the BMW haha
@@newbieriderreviews Exactly !! Cruise control is a must on any superbike. I have no idea why ducati don't put cruise control on their superbikes or their VSP bikes ! But, BMW can't be messed with in the technology department...haha
@Market Trading Genius the fact they call it a "streetfighter" but don't give it some creature comforts always bugs me haha they have said its to "maintain purity" but its just cheaping out I say 😅
Was having the same debate and I’m still torn but opted for the M1KRM. Lots of factors. I test rode a V4S and S1KR (dealer wouldn’t let me ride the spec’d up versions) and had my heart set in the Ducati going in but came away with a different take. While the Ducati is better looking and the ride is bonkers, the BMW checks more boxes. I don’t love the looks as much, but I’ll love saving $10k (and likely more down the road on service - my other Ducs have been money pits). I strongly urge you to go ride them both first.
Ok, thanks for replying)) actually I rode Ducati quite hard couple of days last year. What can I say, it’s a good bike but needs empty roads to show all power, it starts after 9000 revs. In the city traffic it feels nervous and choppy.
I don’t use leather clothes so the heat was highly sensitive and uncomfortable. I also noted it’s a bit small but after half an hour was okay. Termignoni exhaust is very loud and feels like you in the Hell all the time.
The biggest pro is the brand name Ducati 👍👍 😎😎 I didn’t ride a new M1000R yet but what I know it must be faster and lighter than Ducati plus a lot more city friendly without toasting ass and legs in the heavy traffic. My 2 cents 😁😁😁
"coming back for sausage".. Ofc you are, you never fooled me! 🤣 nah jokes, much love, you already know 😁 Thoughts on the can? I think it looks a bit too long.
Great review, as always 👌
Nice title "thoughts and FEELINGS" 👀
Glad it wasn’t available when I got my XR
I'm upset it wasn't available when I ordered my 21' S1000R
Oh man, I just got the "normal" S1000R and when I see the BLACK(!!!) Fuel Cap...... Why can't they put it on every other Bike too??? xD I'm seriously getting mad about this. It's about the little things
Haha yeah dont stress over it man, can always go ahead and fit one if needed!
This bike is beast and maybe the best of its class atm. But if you don't have trackdays this is kinde useless for the daily ride.
I'd very much argue its useless as a daily rider! It's a fantastically versatile bike!
She’s a beaut tbh but the previous gen looked better and a reflash and an O2 sensor woke the bike up.
But what about wheelies? 😉😂
I didnt think it appropriate to turn off wheelie control haha and with it being restricted it would be a quick wheelie killer hitting the limiter
@@newbieriderreviews you still need to show me a step by step tutorial 🙈😂
@yodomcat Got one recorded as it happens, just need to get it edited 😬
@@newbieriderreviews editing in the dedication to me 😂😂
$30k 😮
UK is a little cheaper but yes, still mad money!
Alloy or carbon wheel its an expensive mistake to crack one… the alloy ones are forged and nearly as costly….. all academic because your insurance should take care of this.
I should get a motorbike licence
Yes, Yes you should, just stay safe 🙌
This is the most powerful naked bike out there in the market now.
Ducati streetfighter v4 entered the chat.....
Nope, the SF V4S has less power
For this style of driving and in everyday traffic he actually thrown pearls before swine 🤷
Very sorry, but holding a conversation with another rider, who we cannot hear, puts me right off.
Beautiful bike but my 125hp z900 is already way above my skill level (I'm used to riding Harley's) this bike would be a waste for me personally.
Its probably easier to ride though
That's fair enough man, would be a mental jump from the Z900 for sure
@@newbieriderreviews It’s powerful but still easy to ride judging from my S1000RR. Don’t worry
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