OnePlus 12 Full Review - Galaxy S24 Ultra Killer!?
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- Is the OnePlus 12 better than the Galaxy S24 Ultra - and is it a big upgrade over the OnePlus 11? Watch before you buy!
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00:00 OnePlus vs Samsung
02:07 Bigger Design
04:35 Brighter Screen
06:09 Faster Chip
08:45 Smarter Gaming
10:16 Longer Battery
11:02 Upgraded Camera
13:32 Wrap Up
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Hey Chaps! What's going to be your next phone??
i'm torn between the 12 and s24 ultra..
I already have the S23 Ultra so better just waiting for the S25 Ultra
Still rocking a Pixel 6. It still does everything I need it to. I'll re-evaluate my options when/if a manufacturer releases a smaller flagship (under 6"). Phones are too big to use one handed which you do a lot when you have young kids 😅
Just bought the Samsung S24 Ultra..it's amazing I love it
I've ordered the S24 Ultra. It's the RESALE value that's as important to me as the initial outlay. That and the free galaxy watch 6, double the disk space, and an early bird price that also helps bring the cost down when I resell the watch !
This phone is a no brainer. Oneplus12 has all the essentials most people would need and then some. Welcome back OnePlus!
I d nvr go back to one plus again since they killed the oxygen OS, it looks like iphone copy chinese oppo software now, Team pixel for me, you can find good deals with pixel too
@@Ciki92the only thing I have against the pixel line is the sub par fingerprint sensor and the underwhelming chip they use
Meh it'll be Samsung for me. Coming from iPhone.
Extremely sexy phone, damm and price affordable, im almost sad i bought oppo x5 pro recently for almost same price... One plus outdone it self
@@Ciki92 Pixel is good, but the problem for me is that high-res megapixel images (over 12mp) are locked behind the Pixel 7a and 8 Pro. Additionally, battery life is average and Tensor is often said to be weaker than the Snapdragon chips when it comes to gaming.
I preordered the Flowy Emerald version. The fast charging of OnePlus phones is addictive.
OnePlus doesn't need a super fast shutter because like the Open (which I have) has a "hold shutter down for" burst or video mode. It seems other phone manufacturers have removed that feature.
I appreciate that SLR feel.
For me it ticks all the right boxes, good price, great battery, quick charging and bright screen
and a charger in the box!
@@Exire87tradingshenzen or giztop?
2much@@Exire87
I only wish EITHER the screen was flat and/or the side rails were matte instead of glossy
You are stupid, usability, long term, UI, etc
AI features are so overrated & gimmicky
You're right. But having a call screening feature really is game charger. But with this being Android I'm sure all these new phones will get these so called "AI" features
True, but considering every other benefits, the phone is still a ridiculously good deal
What??😂😂
Until you have a phone that has them and then you can't go back. It makes life so much more convenient.
Not to mention the feature is only free till 2025
S24 ultra is cool and all, but the OP 12 seems like an epic value for money mobile. Both are close in almost all aspects.
I really don't seem to pay double to price for ultra or pro max just for a tab better photos. I mean at the end everyone will end up switching to a new phone in next 4years. One won't be using same phone for 10 yrs.
@@prasadmankar7650 Same argument can be used with the software support. People want more of it, praising phones that offer 7+ years of support, which is good for second hand market, but not many people will buy such phone in those 7 years. At that point in those 7 years, they can buy a 2yo phone that's the same price but 5x better. Look at the jumps we're making now every 2 years. In 7 years, phones like the Pixel 8 will be history, and that bad boy has problems now, I don't want to see how it performs in 7 years. 5 years is plenty enough. Needless to say, whoever pays twice as much for a 15 Pro Max or the S24 Ultra instead of something like the Oneplus 12, really doesn't know what to spend their money on.
Oneplus 12 is very good phone@@czkmeister
100 watts included in the box ( i can use my 100 watts anker if i want to)
Excellent display ( i prefer curved)
Huge battery
Clean os
Future proof specs
Great cameras
Much better value than whatever apple or Samsung are doing thats for sure
I hate to break it to you. I have 100w Anker, it doesn't support the supervooc charging. It will peak at 18w on third party charger. You HAVE TO use a OnePlus charger in order to use supervooc charging experience.
Sorry to say but you can only use the Supervooc charger to charge your phone at 100W.
Gan Charger might do the job at 40-45W.
So you should take care of your 100W charger properly.
But definitely the OnePlus12 is by far the best value for money smartphone of the year.
Thanks guys for the notes there, much appreciated. Upgrading soon from a oneplus 8 pro. I think i will see a difference 😂
One thing you forgot to mention is the return of video out over Type-C 3.2!! It was last available with OP9 Pro after which it was dropped!
Everything is great except the dated curved design with non symmetrical bezels
3:57 - he did mention it
Good point! Now I can use my Xreal Pro's!
It's also the first Oneplus with Dual Active SIMs
My op10 pro had video out
If it's friendly to the eyes of us PWM sensitive I'm prepared to buy it.
It is! (the S24U also has higher PWM this year)
@@ThetechchapSold. That's all I really care about all other features are secondary.
How does the PWM compare with the S24 Ultra?
@@ThetechchapBut s24u have only Problems with Kamera and Displays colors.
@@Exire87Have you used the S24U to make those claims or are you going by what you've heard on sites (online)?
Finally a worthy upgrade from Oneplus 7 pro
That’s a great phone - peak OnePlus
fr i preordered mine after smashing my screen on my trusted 7 pro but i will defenitelly miss my wonderful notchless screen :(
My OP 7 Pro's screen smashed, as well as my OP 9 Pro's screen. The common denominator was the curved screen on both. @@s30foot43
Same here man! I'm still daily-ing my OP7pro...thinking of an upgrade.
Was with OPlus for the 1, 3T, and 5T. Went to Samsung after they made their software not crap. OPlus got me back with this one. Very impressive. Can't wait to get it in hand.
Love your comparisons, especially when putting these phones side by side with other current competitors regarding benchmarks etc. It really helps. Thank you for this.
As a Oneplus 9Pro user who *was* on the verge of switching to an iPhone 15 pro max, I'm seriously contemplating getting the new OP12 instead.
It depends if you enjoy the android experience over ios really or vice versa, I like customisation, fingerprint scanner,I actually find the iPhone quite boring if I am being honest,yes ios is smooth and fast, but there is no much more to do with an android phone especially a oneplus, personally I would save yourself £300/$300 and get the oneplus 12.
@@wakinguptothetruth.2566I agree
I'm considering the same, but I'm on the base 9. Have you checked the trade in?? INSANE. They'll give me $300 for mine, bringing the larger storage 12 to $500 on preorder. I literally paid $300 for it new on a closeout deal at Best buy.
I'm in the same situation, but my 9pro broke, i seriously considered iphone BUT, try the iphone "back" button and stupid keyboard, for me it was a surprise and a reason not to buy and iphone, it is really not comfortable to use back button in left upper corner with one hand compared to our beloved side swipe.
I had a 9 pro 12gb which I loved. Loved the screen, the speed and the fast charging. The front camera was awful though. I switched the 14 pro max a year ago however I do miss the one plus.
5.4Ah was defo the right move consider the type of batteries used. it'll help with the lifespan quite a bit to offset the degradation from fast charging a bit more
Fast charging degradation is already mitigated by not allowing the battery to get hot
My realme gt Neo 2 a 500 dollar phone has 65 watt charger and 4800 mah I still last the same 6-8 hours heavy continuous use per charge in 40 minutes complete. I use the phone for almost 3 years since it came out no noticable degradation at all.
U can just charge it set up to 80 percent for battery longevity
This phone is rocking !!! I love the 50 watt wireless charging - I ordered mine right after the keynote - I am excited - get one or be a big square - best phone available !!
Awesome review Tom! I think this is a unreal phone to be honest for the price. A real true competitor to the pixel 8 pro and s24+. Have to remember it starts at double the storage of the pixel 8 pro for 50 pounds cheaper (with a charger in the box!). Thats crazy good value. Shame we missed out on the pixel stacked sensor with this but the results still seem great! I will actually be importing one from china, can get the 16+1TB version with Oxygen OS for 710 pounds delivered (cheaper if you are happy with colour OS). Awesome phone for the money. Great job OnePlus!
Please don't buy it from china. Chinese software is never optimised. Go for the global variant.
In terms of software, Camera, performance and battery every single aspect is better in the Global variant.
I loved on my OnePlus 8 the sidebar option where you could lunch screen translate or Google lens or music player without having to leave the actual app you been using. Its the feature s24 ultra does now by holding the lower screen. It is so convenient on OnePlus though. I moved to Google pixel for the camera mainly, but i regretted how good OnePlus was for everything, especially for the battery and the charging speed. i would get like 20% in 5 minute when i needed. Once you use a fast charging phone, only then you know. Im definitely going back to OnePlus.
for the photos you should buy a photo camera, u ll be surprised how different they are compare to the smartphone cameras
With the kind of trading OnePlus is giving I can get this phone 16gb and 512gb, Snapdragon 8 gen 3 for $540 and with these kinds of specs that's one hell of a deal!
Usd540? It's RM4599 in my coubtry😢
540$ ?? it's a rip-off, I got it for 199$ special offer, that's what I call a deal
This feels more like a S24+ competitor in my opinion
No, it is actually more impressive than the Ultra in most ways. Only the camera is worse, really. Unmatched in pretty much every other way. At nearly half the price, One Plus are back.
@@VColossalV the cooling is worse based on the OnePlus 12 losing to the Ultra in sustained benchmarks, the software support is definitely worse and I would prefer comparing it to the S24+
Edit: Performance is actually better than the S24 series either due to a software update or because of its default performance mode not being the highest
@@Exotic-9780 The fact a phone $500 cheaper is even considered a competitor is pretty impressive ngl
@@UnknownPikmin Yeah it's pretty good for what it is
@@Exotic-9780 The battery tech is leagues better than the Ultra. Even with the benchmarks shown in the video the Ultra was using nearly 3 times the battery for only a tiny advantage in performance, the battery management tech is the best of any phone on the market, by a mile. Samsung and Apple should be embarrassed that a phone nearly half the price can charge faster with wireless charging than their phones can wired. Really lagging behind in that aspect.
The 12 can last for days without needing to charge. The eye strain is much less, also thanks to new tech. Display gets much brighter. Supports Dolby Vision. Aqua touch means you can use the phone while wet. Actually includes a 100 watt charger in the box.
Great video mate as always - can you report on so many users having issues with their S24 Ultra where the screen is washed out and looks dull.
Great review. I’ve watched your Samsung 23 and 24 comparison too. I have my old Samsung note 9 to replace and key for me this time is the camera and want a camera with the best zoom. I’ve taken pictures of seals out at sea or lead singers at concerts from a reasonable distance on my current phone and the zoom is rubbish. I’m stuck on what to get, iPhone 15 plus, s23u, s24u and now this oneplus12. It’s not really a price decision, so could do with some help. Also take pictures of landscapes and the video.
I have watched several videos comparing the two phones. I have been a Samsung customer since 2012 and they make the best mobile phones. However, the $500 difference in price for a similar phone which has similar features is drawing my attention to OnePlus. Thanks for your honest review.
I jumped on the One+ bandwagon when they released the first phone, and I have had a few models. They always been EXCELLENT quality for the price, and if I was in the market for a phone today I might pick the 12 since they finally caught up with the cameras (definitely their weak spot earlier).
It's phone season! Nice to see 1+ upped their game this year. Going to wait and see what the Magic 6 Pro brings as well but have to say the S24 Ultra looks like a beast mode phone.
Seriously thinking of replacing my pixel 8Pro with one of the above
The price is a bit high, but as there is a discount for the preorder for 16+512, it's a good deal. I would like to buy S24 ultra, but the price for me is too high. OnePlus gives you almost the same quality and features as Samsung, anyway after a few years you have to change your phone. Waiting for the delivery to see in real life how it fits to me. Watched a few reviews before ordering.
Loved the Llama mug!! As always, a pretty good presentation: One Plus phenes are getting better. Keep up the good work.
My only wish is that they'd have offered the White version in US as well. Otherwise I'm highly impressed. Been away from OPlus since the 5T, 3T, & 1. Happy to be back, can't wait to check it out.
I've been away since the beloved 7 Pro. Been using the s22 ultra and I'm definitely going to be picking up this OnePlus 12. Not impressed with the Sammy overall. It's great to see OnePlus back.
@@noahandky3019 yes it is.
@@noahandky3019it's cringe to see people call Samsung Sammy.
@@noahandky3019 Still rocking the 7T Pro McLaren after all these years. Everything since the 7 series has felt "meh". But this 12 may finally convince me to upgrade
Want a white one? Just dbrand it. They make skins for Oneplus phones.
Finally a great replacement for my 6T! This is a 5yo+ phone and I've had it in my hands for nearly 5. I feel like the jump from my 6T to the 12 will be absolutely mind blowing
Yeah it will, fun thing to try, go back to the 6t after like 2 weeks, you won't know how bad it was till then.
Great vid as always Tom. Random question......have you watched the series 'Slow Horses'? You're literally the main character in it, he's actually your twin haha. I keep watching it thinking its the tech chap
Not sure about the S24U, but the 22U has a high and a maximum processing speed toggle hidden in the edit toggles button. 8:24 otherwise it's optimized for battery life as well.
Thumbnail makes it look like you are going through it haha. Keep going mate!
It's been a tough Winter, Ben 😂
@@Thetechchap Trust me I am with you mate haha
Oh he is! 🥹 Lol. He’s slowly working his way to 2 million subs. 😳😳😳
8:36 doesn't show scores when peak mode is activated. great reviewer !
😂
I am coming from Oppo Find X2 Pro (before that Samsung S7 edge, S5 Active), I have pre-orderd OnePlus 12 it has nearly everything I want without huge sacrifice in camera department for very competative prices. If I want a larger screen with the saving, I can get a tablet or a dedicated camera or both to still have overal high(er) price/quality deal in user experience.
Great full review keep it up as always bro
I agree with you that OnePlus has regained some of their mojo. That is a hell of a phone for $799! I, however, will be sticking with the S24 Ultra. As a low vision person, zoom prowess means much more to me then most others, making the premium price still worth it.
OnePlus 12 sounds very good, I am not interested in those gimmicky AI features. Problem is that in Norway they sell for 13 000 NOK (1250 USD) instead of 800 :( Plus the shutter speed annoys me a lot in my current phone, which is a S22ultra.
The cheapest one is 11790 NOK, (1130 USD). Just remember that our prices has tax included while USA doesn't, so all in all, the price difference is not that great.
I also has the s22 ultra, and I was kinda ready to get rid of the curved edges, but this phone just seems like a more exciting upgrade than the s24 ultra. I wish samsung would have updated their design a little.
Buy it from India. I preorder it at approx $700 with card offers.
Now sells for 600 dollars in UAE
How does it compare in benchmark to the exynos version for us in the UK?
Great video! And great phone! I might buy this one if I was going to get new phone now. Although it costs more here in Finland than in UK or USA. Starting from 949€.
Feel like the Ultra is its own class as it has a stylus and 5x (10x for S23U) camera zoom. However this phone competes against the S24+ nicely.
This slaps the s24+
Oneplus 12 is a bit slower in 3d Mark Stress Test, but you can see that the battery temp is 38degrees while on the S24U is 43degrees. That basically makes OnePlus the better phone in terms of performance, at least it has better cooling.
Reviewers neglect that Samsung are pumping up benchmark results by boosting all the cores so that they have bragging rights. The negatives being terrible battery drain and heat. Once the reviews are over they will throttle performance and these scores will be meaningless.
@@andyH_England Still other Gen3 phones score higher than S24U... What you know is that every time Samsung is not the best for sustained performance and gaming.
That's a really good catch!
Oneplus have advantage of large vapor chamber thats why this is coolet than s24 u
I currently have a one plus 6 and have pre-ordered a oneplus 12. I cannot wait for it to arrive. the performance boost is going to be insane. Nice review BTW!
Pretty big upgrade
A S24 Ultra with 256GB sells for 1350GBP in Norway. 17990 NOK! We are closing in on the Z Fold-line up :O My wallet will be eyeing out for this, or the upcoming Pixels next. (or maybe a used S23 Ultra)
They sell Oneplus 12 for 13 000 NOK. Much more than 800 USD in the US :(.
I have the 9 Pro, and OnePlus is giving a great trade-in incentive. With the 9 Pro trade-in and the memory upgrade to 16/512 for the price of the 12/256 it's a really good deal.
Please sell your old phone and don’t trade it in…… trade in an iPhone 5 or 4 and you still get the discount or storage upgrade
The trade in works with every phone in every condition
I have a 9 as well that works great, im debating on upgrading.
@@ogkendrick6392 yeah but other brand phones are only worth $100 right? I paid $300 for my 9 new two years ago and that's the same amount they'll discount me for trade in.
Amazing phone for the price. But honestly I'm SO done with curved screens. It felt cool and different when I had the S8 in 2017, but by now, with the S21 Ultra ive had for three years, I'm so done with it. I'm getting the S24+ (just because its $350 cheaper for me than the S24 Ultra) and am very excited.
I have a case and never could tell a difference. Without a case i think curve looks and feels better but again i will use a case!
Agreed pain in the ass for screen protectors and offers no real benefits just feels more fragile
For me, I don't love or hate the curved screens, they are just a meh thing. I DO massively prefer curved corners to square, though. If I am going with a flat screen, I like the implementation on iPhone and Pixel, whereas the Oneplus I don't love those curved edges, but they aren't a dealbreaker by any stretch.
I'm on the s22+, came from OnePlus 7t(supposedly flat, slight curve) the 22+ feels more secure in my had but also feels heavier, thicker and chunkier(just cuz of the design)
Does frame rate booster works on videos as well?
Hey Tom can you please tell me if colors on s24 ultra are washed out? I've heard they are because of the new screen
I've missed OnePlus. Coming back to the 12 since I left them at 8 pro. I've been using a pixel 7 pro for the last year and I can't stand many things about it. In particular the slow as hell charging.
I'm trading in my pixel 7 pro as well for this. Tired of the connection issues with calls not getting through or weak signal for data. Must be something up with the samsung exynos antenna on the G2, Qualcomm antennas on their snapdragons are the best and most reliable
@@Blakendp83 I felt that moving from a OnePlus 8 pro was a bit of a downgrade to the Pixel 7 Pro, however at the time Oxygen OS had become very buggy and the whole experience of my OnePlus 8 Pro had tanked. The Pixel 7 Pro has many flaws. The battery life and charging speed are a killer for me. I seldom leave my phone in place for too long, so fast charging is a must. Also you can tell the processor isn't very powerful when doing any form of photo manipulation. It takes time to edit images. File browsing is also very slow. Vanilla Android is very much a hit and miss. I'm not a huge camera person, although the video and photo quality is decent on the Pixel I believe it's more software manipulation than anything else. I suspect if OnePlus wanted they could just use the same techniques as Google and get similar results. I've preordered the OnePlus 12 already, so I'm hoping it will be a significant performance upgrade over my 7 pro. I couldn't fathom upgrading to the Pixel 8 Pro. The miniscule updates are too tiny for it to be a viable phone upgrade. I hope OnePlus keep their software optimised and bug free.
I love the Oneplus 12, just wish they went with a flat display rather than curved. Screen protectors has been a nightmare.
Lol at it being a nightmare. Just say you're a Samsung Knight
Can you please tell me which tempered glass is good for curved screen phones? ( Normal one or uv one?)
Here in the US they are giving storage upgrade for free and 260 bucks on trade in for older oneplus, it comes down to 550 dollars, then it's hard to argue against
Yep, I broke out the old 8T and with trade-in got the 12 for 550$. Insane
The AI feels so OVER HYPED!!!
Good specs, even better price, but I just hate that curved screen and ugly round camera bump
I was looking for a video review that shows the 12 up close, very close, and I found it. Thanks Chap!
Thank you for your review. Doesn't appear that other reviewers outside the UK are giving it much of a chance.
Flossy Carter (from US) has done a very positive review of the Oneplus 12. Just to name one.
The problem with the OP12 is that Samsung are being predatory with pricing and the deals out there for pre-order make the S24U a bargain. With a £600 trade-in on my S23U and the freebies, discounts and other extras the total cost is
I mean I appreciate the extra value Samsung are chucking in
Only in countries like US
here in sg i dont see any free galaxy watch :/
I don't understand how the deals in other countries are so much better than here in Belgium. Trade in value for my S23 ultra 512gb is only 500 euros. There is no free cases, no galaxy watch, nothing! How unfair is that
Yeah the only reason I have stayed with Samsung so long is I really like having the s pen and with all the trade in and other bonuses I was able to get the new ultra and the 6 classic watch together for less then this phone even after tax so of course I'm going to do that. Love oneplus though and my girlfriend is very happy with hers.
It’s $500 + the extra taxes + the charger cost = closer to $600 cheaper 🤑
Who doesn't have a charger?
Taxes are included in all prices in the UK.
@@Neil-qg9cw When you're spending over a $1000, you should get a charger even if you don't need it lol
@@dpleech1 not in the US. Tax on 1,299 is a bit more than tax on 799
@@longshot291981 and it should a fast charge 80w and up
Great video
Plz Compare OP 11 with One plus 12
Kept my 23U and got the 12 and 12r. Maybe later get the 24u. My first one plus device was the open and thats a beast.
Oneplus is back! I have ordered mine Alhamdulillah
I got mine today alhamdulillah white 16 512 amazing price
Terrific review! When you do the OnePlus 12 battery test, can you please test it with both "high performance" mode on and off? Really curious to see what the difference is. Thx!!
I heard those S24 ultra assembled in Vietnam factory were not so great. Any insights? I was struggling between Oneplus12 vs Samsung S24Ultra and esp. Xfinity has $500-$800 credit on Samsung S24Ultra in the US.
The zoomed photo of the guitar shop window looked clearly superior on the One Plus 12 compared to the S24 Ultra. Which is a bit disappointing as I'm about to take delivery of an S24 Ultra in about 20 minutes. Still its early days and Samsung do say a camera fix is in the works.
Then again here in Ireland the OnePlus12 costs €949 for the 12gb 256gb or €999 for the 16gb 512gb (no brainer, spend the €50) with free Buds Pro 2 tws which works out about the same as the S24 Ultra 512gb once Samsungs discounts and free Galaxy Watch 6 are factored in. Competition is good.
Yeah, but 999 is way too much while americans get is for 700, I'll buy this phone as a back up phone around black friday , going for the ultra now
I agree. As someone who is also awaiting delivery of an S24U I actually think I prefer the OP color science in most of the included shots. Hopefully the rumored camera update from Samsung brings the magic.
Oneplus cameras get better during the first months. If it can compete out of box it will be really good in 6 months.
/a/6UVmotu there is a Imgur link for my unedited shots with 9 Pro. You cant link anything so need to manually add imgur url to the front...
I preordered the unlocked Titanium purple Galaxy S24 ultra 512GB💜 upgrading from a unlocked phantom brown Galaxy S21 Ultra 512GB.. will be arriving tomorrow by 7pm via ups tracking:)
Nobody cares.
I pre ordered the S24U too but Titanium Blue and here in italy is taking a lot more for the delivery.
@@DanEzZ4 niceee I was debating between the blue and violet, next upgrade I'll probably go blue with 1tb but that won't be for probably 3 to 4 years maybe this time unless they come out with major changes.
Definitely getting it. Even at a closer price to the s24 I'd get the OnePlus, mainly for the more comfortable in hand design, better battery life and much faster charging.
I also found that I preferred most of the photos the 12 took compared to the Ultra.
i still have s23u is oneplus12 worth buying as spare?i badly want an ir blaster aswell
Insane value.. But frankly hate the oneplus design..
Fair
These two were my top contenders for switching from my current 14 PM. I went with the S24U, because of the anti reflective and flat display, OneUI is more featured pack, and lastly accessory/case support. I tried the OnePlus Open when it was released while very smooth and great battery, I really couldn't find any 3rd party accessories. Perfect examples; no D-brand skin/case support for newer OP devices, no Pitaka case, ArcPulse case is only for Apple/Samsung, no Casetify cases, and no good competing OnePlus watch.
First of all, I really enjoy your reviews and I don't know why I haven't been subscribed until now.
I pre-ordered an S24 Ultra, but I did give this one some serious thought before ultimately passing on it. They're not really in the same category as they're $500 apart, but I decided to make the stretch to the S24U for the flat display, even bezels, better telephoto camera, superior software support, and more premium build.
This is gonna sound really silly, but my biggest gripe with this phone is how it looks from the front. Why are the chin and forehead so thick on a flagship phone in 2024? Seriously, if you ignore the location and/or existence of the hole-punch camera, OnePlus phones have looked almost identical from the front since the OnePlus 7 Pro. Heck, put this side-by-side with a OnePlus 8, 9, or 10 Pro and I bet most casual observers wouldn't be able to tell which is the new one just by looking at the screen. Sure, you could say the same thing about the Galaxy S series or iPhone, but at least the bezels on those have become progressively thinner with each new generation. I think my old OnePlus 9 Pro might actually have a smaller chin than this OP12.
That said, you do get a lot of phone for the money compared to the S24/S24+, but I guess the trade-off is a curved display with larger-than-average bezels and slightly less premium materials (Gorilla Glass 5 instead of Victus 2 for the back panel, for example).
And maybe I need new glasses, but I swear the pictures from the OnePlus 11 main camera look better, especially those with Tom as the subject The OnePlus 12 almost looks as if it's applying a beauty filter to the main camera shots, as his face looks smoothed-out with less fine details present. Maybe I'm imagining it. The telephoto camera is definitely a nice improvement over the 11, though, and at 5X appeared to be giving the S24U a run for its money in a couple of those pics.
On a side note, I really wish BBK would bring more of their phones to North America, especially those super-flagship camera phones like the Find X7 Ultra. Just re-badge it as a OnePlus 12 Ultra, price it a few hundred bucks less than the S24 Ultra, and call it a day. I would've bought that over the S24U without hesitation. And yes, I know I could import a Find X7 Ultra to the US for less than an S24U, but I'm not comfortable doing that. I can at least somewhat trust that OnePlus isn't gonna send all of my personal information to Xi Jinping 😅. Or so I hope LOL
Does it have dual frequency GNSS ?
This phone is a fantastic value proposition. They are offering $200 off the 16GB/512GB version right now, too. $100 promo and $100 for trading in "any phone" that they don't actually make you send in. And there is a $30 coupon code floating around that brings it down further. $669 when you add it all up is just a bonkers price for this thing. And it comes with a charger, too. That's another $50 in hidden value.
Yeah that's a great deal
Yep. I paid around $715 with tax and that includes expedited shipping, a sandstone case, and the AirVooc wireless charger.
Outstanding value.
Would you kindly provide a link to the coupon? And what do you mean you don't have to send in the trade in? Their website states that you have to send in the unit for them to assess what it's worth and then you get to decide if you want them to give you the credit for it or just send it back to you.
The code is "Tech30." And if you choose the any phone, any condition option, they don't even want the thing. They give you the option of sending it to a eWaste recycling company and still give you the $100 off. @@NoVaK9889
If you love bloatware and really want a bloatware device, get a Samsung.
These two phones are more of an Ash Red vs Green Trainer competitor. Both got stacked features.
How is the telephone sound quality both regular and speakerphone? I'm weird - I use my phone mainly as a phone. I bought and then returned the S24 Ultra because the sound quality was so inferior to the old Note 9 that I had been using - and am now using again. The 24U sounded tinny and too low and the volume control didn't always work. I did much prefer the flat screen and I wld really like a expandable memory and a earphone jack, especially the memory. Sony still has that, but Sony isn't sold in the US.
There is no sense to compare those phones... The price difference is enormous
As a reviewer you have to compare the uncomparable, so you can justify saying the more expensive phone is better at the end. Still it's pretty funny it that it percievably competes with a much more expensive phone and even wins in some areas, while a phone that is it's equal (S24 Plus) is completely obliterated by it. Comparison just for the sake of comparing more/less expensive, crap review.
After how they ended up going around with Oneplus 6/7/8 users never again.
what did they do?
No idea what that means.
After their mis management when Oppo bought them. ColorOS was handled poorly and feedback from community was not dealt with until OP11. Bad customer service I can continue.
@@Slashingthrough a small issue when you consider that they have a flagship device at half the price of their competition. Actually better than the competition in many ways.
@@VColossalV maybe for you support on their devices was also not the longest in that period but to each their own opinion.
Flat screen and matching years of updates from samsung/pixel will make me buy this.!
Only thing I will miss from samsung/pixel is recorder app, which has audio to text..
Thanks for this. This was needed.
I think it should be better compared to the s24+ rather than the ultra, no?
Price wise, yes. But it does compete with the Ultra in many ways, and they're each companies 'flagship' phone
I don’t like that oneplus went with a slightly curved screen
I would definitely buy this phone if it had a flat display 😢 maybe 12R will.
How many active sims it can support?
We appreciate your reviews. Keep working hard.
Cheers!
At the time you were explaining about the display reflections. You should have kept the same wallpapers on both the phones. Samsung had a darker (green) wallpaper, contrasting the apps and giving out a clearer image. On the other hand OnePlus had a lighter (white-blue) wallpaper, that did not contrast the apps on the home screen making it much harder to see the apps.
It doesn't really matter. No other phone can touch the S24's anti-reflective glass. It's a game changer.
This is INSANE value for money for what you're getting.
Agreed
not really, this phone is £470 in China
That actually proves it further lol@@TedThomasTT
@@TedThomasTT even better.
@@youngleon25No, it means it's insane value in China. In the UK it's £849. Just shows we're getting ripped off.
Appreciate the great reviews. A request though please: can you give us an overview on what does and doesn't work in terms of day to day software. I mean the stuff we all use like tap-payment and Gmail etc, rather than obscure games. However great these Chinese phones are, we ALL need them to do more than take excellent photos of our cats! 😂
JM
what would u say would be best between one plus eleven and redmagic 9 pro
My S24U cost about £500 after trade in and various discounts. One plus give terrible trade in deals. Once you have a flagship Samsung, it's pretty cheap to upgrade. Don't forget the £500 worth of freebies i got with the S24U. Basically, the phone was free to upgrade.
What did you trade?
I'm curious as well.
@clay5534 S23 Ultra. £600 trade in. Got £50 off for pre order. 5% off using the samsung shop app. Got another 5% off using Samsung Pay+.
Yup, they gave $550 for my S21U, almost double what OnePlus is offering. Also got a Watch 6 Classic for $85 with it.
@@ro0ster648 Which country? In most EU, Samsung won't even look at an S21U for trade in...
Maybe 24+ killer.. but not 24 U
Great review! You can now pre-order the OP 12 for $699 if you send OnePlus any smartphones in any condition, working or not. You also get a free storage upgrade to 512. I have the OnePlus 11 and, even though i don't need a new phone (I absolutely love my 11) I'm seriously thinking about upgrading to the 12. That is one heck of a deal!! Thanks again for the review. 👍
Glad to hear the fixed the camera. I purchased the O9Pro based on the strength of the Hasselblad collaboration, only to find out it was nothing but marketing hype.
Best phone right now! Better than S24. Better screen, brighter screen, faster scrrolling and more BIT colors. Faster CPU, according to eveyone else doing the bench mark tests on RUclips. Better battery, charge faster, holds you longer and a bigger one as well. Everything that really matters Plus 12 is better at. Only big thing S24 is better at is the Camera and some other gimmic things that doesn't matter at all . Samsung should be ashamed for this! Getting beaten in so many important areas by a phone so much cheaper.
The screens not better, neither is the cpu, scrolling is not faster either.
@@corsinivideosDon't be sad! Fact is fact!
@@saine414 lol it's not facts.
@@corsinivideosVery clear facts. Eveyone else doing this on RUclips shows this. This guy is the only one who has done bench mark test where S24 is little bit faster... I think you are a fan boy or just bought the 24 and are butthurt now lol
@@saine414 How is the screen better? You're talking nonsense. The OP12 is also super ugly and the camera isn't as good. With preorder bonuses the S24U is basically the same price as well.
Yeah the shutter speed and poor quality camera is why i left OnePlus after the 7Pro... all the pictures of our toddler were blurry 😢. Too bad because it was SUCH a good phone otherwise. Glad to see it's getting better in some aspects.
Looking forward to my S24 Ultra since Verizon gave me $1,000 credit to upgrade from my Pixel 7Pro though 😍
How has the experience been with S24U. How was your experience with Pixel 7Pro particularly Camera and Modem ?
Coming from a OnePlus 8 pro and can't wait for my 12 to get here! Trading in my 8 pro I got the 12 for under $600 with 16gb of ram and 512 GB of storage. Hard to beat the value at that price point for what I'm getting
It would've been nice to see a 4K 30 selfie video. But, unfortunately, you didn't do it. Could you remember to include that in when you compare the OnePlus 12 against the Honor and the Xiaomi?
every oportunity he gets to capture his stupid face is welcome for him as a Narcissist! So yes
It is not the killer of s24 ultra
Can't kill what's already dead.
I think the Honor Magic 6 Pro is going to be phone of the year. The 5s cameras were outrageous and they promise to push it further this year. Can't wait to your review of it. Yours and Tech Spurt.
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It's all about value for your dollar. If $$ isn't an issue to ahead and get the S24 Ultra. I'll take this over my Pixel 8 Pro. The AI features are pretty cool but I don't find myself using them often and the tensor processor, IMO, is significantly slower than snapdragon for every day use.
I heard this weighs 220gms and if we use the case it's going to increase. What do you think about using this as a daily device with a lot of calls. How's the in hand weight distribution? Will my wrist hurt ?
Oneplus 12 which got 12+256gb for 849 pounds, is cheaper than the S24+, much cheaper than the s24 ultra, yet it's still 370 pounds more expensive than its launching price in China.....And what makes things crazier, is that it starts from 969 euros here in Italy......and I got an offer of 1200 euros for the S24 Ultra with 12+512 GB after the discount, so...I chose the S24 Ultra
Same
How does the sound quality coming out of the oneplus speakers compare to the S23 Ultra? Is it as good or better?
I see most review said op 12 comes with free adapter, but sadly not here at my country. They only give that during promo and now only comes with free cable without the adapter
Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra 🔥🔥🔥💥
For what? ITS downgrade from s23u, Display and Kamera Problems. If U want Upgrade vivo x100 pro
@@Exire87what display provlems? I dont see any and im using it for 4 days now
@@Exire87 Bro said Vivo and upgrade over a Samsung s24u in the same sentence 😂
Bro can't spell camera 😂@@Exire87
I know why the fire emoji and bomb and because battery exploding and chip in fire