I've replaced batteries on 8 surface books and 4 surface pros and ifixit aint lying... such a difficult balance of heat and pressure to get the screen off without cracking it.
Although I appreciate Microsoft making their newer products more repairable and upgradable, I think it's ridiculous that being able to repair a product has become a significant feature instead of something that is taken for granted.
Well, they never thought that the earlier version lasted that long. They thought it was only a niche and thought the people who uses will get something else a few years down the road.
Repairs can still be done on their products by third party repairs. Apple on the other hand, if you change any hardware any of the hardware especially on their iPhone 12. It will greet you with plenty of errors.
"And were done." I love his content. It is therapeutic to view and enjoyable to see someone devoted to not increasing our landfill volume. Three cheers to you, Mr. Jefferys.
WTH?! Me and my brother were just talking about how cool it would be if you would upload a video fixing a Surface Pro 4 and BAM! You upload it the very next day?! Do you read minds sir?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow, it’s very interesting see the different ways that companies have engineered its own products, I haven’t seen so many shields in a single device, but way too cool understand how it works
@@WantBadtime Pineapple was still anti repair with their for example on the iPhone 2g the made metal clips on the back to clip in the metal frame which made a high risk of injury and destruction of the back panel to open the phone and with imacs they used very strong neyodinium magnets to hold the front glass. They were anti repair and always will.
Explore Gadgets that's because it's the original and it's sort of a public beta. Apple doesn't know what the costumers want so they just made something that works and listen to what the costumers want. Take a look at iPhone 4-6S, the screen/back pops out with the removal of only two screws (same for iPhones today but there's glue now and many different types of screws). You don't lose any features of you replace parts of these iPhones. Macs before 2012 are also easily upgradable. You just need to remove some screws (or twist the bottom of the Mac mini) and you can easily upgrade RAM and storage. You can even upgrade the CPU and GPU in the iMacs (the front glass is held by magnets that are strong, but not insanely strong. You can easily get it off with a plastic card). Then Apple f-cked everything up by soldering everything to the board.
im glad about the upgradeability for the new surface, what we need now is sodimm slots and a desktop cpu socket with accessories desinged to add watercooling like a thin ass radiator and thin tubing with thin ass fans
Aditya Narayansreejith Yeah, it’s hidden behind the Kickstand and I never noticed it. I even went out and bought a USB-A to micro-SD card dongle to loose when I was doing some Raspberry Pi work. I remember looking at the Surface Connect cable, thinking it was SD-Card, but realising it wasn’t. I forgot that it was even a feature.
For the adhesive removal, use a "caramel wheel" or automotive pin stripe removal tool. Works great on that type of adhesives which usually see on car badges.
Nice one 👍🏽 can’t wait to see you get to 500k!! A huge mile stone! Congrats man you deserve it you’ve inspired many many people to restore there old broken phones (including me)!
I remember back when Hugh had this ariana mouse pad where he used to do his tiny gadget repairs / upgrades. You've come a really long way. Keep up the good work!
i am not that type who writes comments when early, i watch the whole video, then say I LOVE IT! keep up hugh im A BIG fan since 2015 :) you inspired me to start my channel keep it up man! :D
For a year at this point, I have been looking forward to Saturday afternoons at work cuz when I’m on my break, your uploads are always between 15 minutes to an hour old. Thaks for giving me something to look forward to 🙏🙏
You are the luckiest man on earth getting that off without breaking it. I've been working in a repair shop for 3 years now (nowhere near as long as you have been doing these) but the surface 3 4 and 5 have the most fragile thing I've ever worked on. Although after that they use more flexible glass and I personally daily a surface pro X with windows 11
I heard people using wd40 to remove the silicone around bathtubs which works beautifully, but after a while, it tends to eat the new silicone as well. Not sure how true it would be for adhesives though.
one thing i learnt from laptop repair is always run the screen numbers before ordering anything as there is so many variants and alot of the time you find the part way cheaper also some displays can be changed from a 1366 panel to a 1080 one.
Great work Hugh! Like you, I am a firm believer in fixing old equipment - it can often be used for many years more. I still have a Surface pro 3 that serves as a ‘family’ shared computer, and while I am a Mac user, I do also have a Surface laptop 2 for the times when I need to use a Windows machine. I would love to replace the battery on our old Surface pro 3, but I don’t have the courage (or skill) to remove the display! Thanks for another great video.
In regards to removing the adhesive, try a razor blade. Worked great for me on ipads. You just run it down the side and take off most of the adhesive in one go. Don't use it on the non metal parts though.
Yay! Glad to see that someone has repaired one of these unrepairable devices! Only problem is... what happens when the battery eventually fails, as it will do at some point? Those batteries are glued in like no tomorrow! P.S. I have a Surface Pro 3 myself and that is a great device, shame about the lack of repairability though.
For removing the adhesive I'd use a sharpened metal spudger. Wrap some sandpaper around a block of wood and use it to sharpen each side. Works a treat!
I'm sure someone has pointed it out before, but they make heating pads for reptile enclosures that I've found help a LOT when trying to loosen glue, since it only actually heats up to about 10 degrees above ambient, it's also pretty handy to use before using a hot air station on it. just put it on the pad and come back to it an hour later.
i TOTALLY feel your pain with the adhesive. i had to repair a surface book 2 a month ago and it took me around 2 hours to remove all the former adhesive stuff. god knows what they used to glue it together...
Hi, I was wondering why don't you use a migration tools to copy the software from one drive to another (Seagate disk wizards). It will ensure all the driver will be as same as the original so it will work better. I used to do this for my hdd to ssd upgrade for my laptop
The 'gap' you noticed while dissasembling was most likely caused by battery swelling, pushing the screen out of the chassis. Same thing happened to my SP4 (albeit much worse), other SP4 owners will have experienced the same thing too.
Worth noting to be extra careful on the bottom left and not go in too deep with the pick on that side. Was working on a free unit with a bad hard drive and now the screen is broken in the process.
It'd make more sense to leave it connected and being cautious considering that disconnecting the battery requires him to take out literally everything else, including the motherboard (which could be shorted out if you try to take it out).
Kyan I might be wrong but there’s a higher chance to short when you are connecting cables with many pins to the socket. You just can’t do this with single movement. I’ve killed my iPhone 5 motherboard doing this, maybe just a bad luck, but I’ve learnt my lesson😀
1217257 There is a high chance but the way the surface battery connects is with a pad that uses the motherboard’s pressure when connected to the case to make contact, so to disconnect the battery to prevent shorts, he’d have to remove everything from the housing which has the potential for shorting something out doing that.
The surface isn't really repairable. In 90% of the cases you'll break your panel while removing it. And inside only the ssd is changeble and maybe the battery. An iPhone can be at least opened without completely destroying it.
@@riceexe You're a close minded salty pineapple fanboy/fangirl who can't accept the truth and always argue with people that Pineapple shit is the best.
I did my own replacement of the surface pro 4 display and I found that using the heat gun to heat the adhesive you were having such a hard time with allowed it to come off much easier. Heating and removing over and over.
Also the orginal or "same as orignal" adhesive can be bought on aliexpress. It's either the original or a laser-cut adhesive which is cut the same way as the original. Aliexpress is probably the best place where you can find most of the surface pro parts even like the wifi antena, LG screen or the battery.
I’ve done several, pain in the ass.. Toptip: for removal of the adhesive: use heat. It doesn’t break as much and sometimes you peel whole strings. I’ve never had the screenassembly in one piece pulled from the frame. Good job!
I took mines apart recently and yes, that glue was strange. I did leave it in place so I could tack the screen back onto that sticky tar-like surface. It holds quite well, but is able to be pulled off carefully. Leaving it like that till I need a new battery. At that time I'll use repair tape to remount the screen. Awesome videos.
What is the small PCB called attached to the LCD screen? A touch control board? 2:48 You installed Win 10 Pro? 3:43 could you also have replaced the existing ribbon/ flex cable (that didn't fit) with one that would, and kept that first (new) replacement screen? Thank you
After lots of research and doing this myself, here's a few points to note, 1. If you have to replace the screen do not get an original Samsung screen. These are prone to failure due to overheating the connection. LG is the way to go, as as per the video go for the SP5 screen 2. You should replace the thermal paste. The old stuff will be dry and useless 3. A new battery is £30, so just replace that as well. 4. The touch L shaped board needs to have good contact with the screen for earthing. The original is attached with conductive paste. So I'd get conductive glue to hold it down to the new screen. 5. Take your time removing the screen. I can easily take up to an hour. I use playing cards, heat and alcohol and work my way round. 6. Take care when removing the screen at the top. The antennas are there and easily destroyed. You can get a new one from AliExpress for I think £15 if you do break it, or I've seen folk just using tinfoil.
I'd swear that adhesive looked like the same stuff they use for automotive glass like the windshield and rear window. To get those windows out they use a wire tool that slices through the tar like goo with ease. I'm surprised you got the screen off first try without breaking it. Well done.
If you like to live dangerously like me, I've found a chisel-tip razor / craft knife helps immensely for removing tough adhesives from devices like the Surface series. The issue is the inherent roughness of the metal its adhered to. More surface area from all of the microscopic bumps and etches in the metal give that already strong adhesive more to bond and cling to.
In the future, I suggest a citrus-based solvent to remove the adhesive. Just use a Q-tip to apply, allow to sit for a few minutes, then start scraping.
If you have a surface pro 4, it's about the time where it's scheduled to replace the screen. Flicker gate and an expanding failing battery. Both items has it's hardware failure that causes the time to replace to occur. I would recommend if you are replacing your battery, just replace the following: 1. Battery --> and some specialized double side tape. 2. Screen --> get the sp5 version with the new cable to work with sp4 motherboard. (getting the sp4 screen will give you the same problem down the road). 3. Bigger hard drive SSD (get a new one if you can afford it as this would be a perfect time, largest installed so far is 2 TB ssd m.2 evo). 4. CPU Thermal Grease (if you are going to clean out the fan, which at this time around should be clogged with lint). ** The only down side is the memory is welded down and can't be upgraded. Unless someone knows how to solder or I won't attempt to do this upgrade. Suggestion: I would not glue down the screen more than needed to or just enough to hold the screen down. Since you know there is some maintenance bound to occur in this machine. This will it will be more easily accessible.
I did a battery replacement on my Surface 2 RT. It's a big job since the battery is at the bottom of the stack; nearly everything had to be removed. Successful too. The original battery was bulging which at least made the screen removal very easy, since it was already popped out in places, due to the bulging battery. Cheers.
as someone who has worked at a computer store repairing devices. I will definitely say that the surface computer is very difficult to repair this requires a lot of experience. and I will also say that this is a very difficult device to repair especially if the glass is shattered because if the glass of the panel is completely shattered it will take you 10 times longer and to be able to work on one of these because of Microsoft's glue being so damn strong. and I also too had the same problem with the LG/ Samsung display problem with the mix-up with the weird cable problem that he had. not to mention if you are working on one of these he made it look super easy but you do need a lot of heat to be able to pry off the display because also up where the webcam is on the tablet at the top of where the display is Guess what Microsoft did they put the Wi-Fi antennas at the top of the display so if you're prying off the glass of the display you are also damaging your Wi-Fi antennas completely. like we're talking about completely ripping the antenna cable so terribly that you get worse Wi-Fi performance once you're done not even joking. I'm surprised he didn't even have that trouble!. I have done 4, 5, and 6 and even 7 surface pro repairs I did one of each model and after a while we just quit doing screen repairs. because of the glue being so terrible to work on and also damaging the antennas.
That is why I usually open up to find out what is the part before making the purchase - from the LG panel to the samsung panel, saving me a headache and logistical wait nightmare
I wonder if his Surface Pro was factory refurbished already, and that's how it wound up with the next gen's screen. There were a lot of problems with the original Pro 4 screens and Microsoft got stuck doing a lot of replacements with refurbished units under warranty. I wouldn't be surprised if they were refurbishing the returns with the next generations screens to send back out as replacements for the bad ones. That would explain why his unit had a screen that the Pro 4's weren't supposed to have. A lot of people wound up returning multiple replacements for the same screen problem. Microsoft probably eventually said "screw this, start replacing the bad Pro 4 warranty return screens with the Pro 5 screens before sending them out as refurbs." The damage to the unit in this video looks like it was physical damage rather than the type of damage that plagued the original screens.
That black spot on the bottom right seriously looks like a person with a cape or hoodie walking 😂
Lol true.
Intel UHD Graphics 617 if you follow Hugh on a Instagram he posted it on his story about how weird it was
Your name Is amazing
Can you run crisis?
I actually thought that black blotch was a person, and part of the desktop wallpaper. I was looking around thinking "what black blotch?" XD
iFixit: surface pro 4 has the repairability score 2 / 10
Hugh: hold my beea
hmm yes
*beea*
@robert PerkTheClown no, it's an Aussie joke
us texans like to say it as "holed mah bee er"
I've replaced batteries on 8 surface books and 4 surface pros and ifixit aint lying... such a difficult balance of heat and pressure to get the screen off without cracking it.
Right
Although I appreciate Microsoft making their newer products more repairable and upgradable, I think it's ridiculous that being able to repair a product has become a significant feature instead of something that is taken for granted.
At least there doing it unlike apple
Well, they never thought that the earlier version lasted that long. They thought it was only a niche and thought the people who uses will get something else a few years down the road.
CB
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Do you feel the same for every single mobile device manufacturere out there too? if not,, well,,, hypocrisy ;)
I see you changed your profile picture nice!
He did it ages ago
@Cassius Sexton yep
@Cassius Sexton ye I know a few days ago is a long time I noticed it last week
True
Good eye
Clearly enough space to use screws + clips on the display panel. Microsoft really loved to make repairs difficult.
Yeah they don’t want you to repair it yourself they want more money
Officer Harroberi it was just apple at first then It spread
@@three_sheeps_in_a_trenchco3134 yeah but unlike microsoft apple designs it so you can't open it microsoft could've made it easier too open 😂
what about apple lol
Repairs can still be done on their products by third party repairs. Apple on the other hand, if you change any hardware any of the hardware especially on their iPhone 12. It will greet you with plenty of errors.
You don't see a lot of surface pro repairs on yt... This is refreshing to watch! Keep it up!
How you Ausies manage to do such a good job whilst standing on your head amazes me. Well done.
I was waiting for that “And were done!”
Yeah, so legend has it he is still working on that thing to this day.
Windows
Still doesn't hit as much as "get that crunch".
@@BJsTrashChannel on god
10:05
"And were done." I love his content. It is therapeutic to view and enjoyable to see someone devoted to not increasing our landfill volume. Three cheers to you, Mr. Jefferys.
Thanks mate! have a loverly day
WTH?! Me and my brother were just talking about how cool it would be if you would upload a video fixing a Surface Pro 4 and BAM! You upload it the very next day?! Do you read minds sir?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
J Sanchez LOL
LOL
10:45 Nice 128MB memory card :D
🤣
You can technically increase space with a memory card of that size but what you're basically doing is blocking your Micro SD card slot
GB!
Oh wait.. I thought it was the frame with the 128 GB card.. Apologies!
Harira Normal normal vc eh normal?
Wow, it’s very interesting see the different ways that companies have engineered its own products, I haven’t seen so many shields in a single device, but way too cool understand how it works
Microsoft: anti-repair -> repair friendly
Samsung: meh -> meh
Apple: repair friendly -> anti-repair
Nah, apple is anti-repair for years
Not for older Apple products 2012-under
@@WantBadtime Pineapple was still anti repair with their for example on the iPhone 2g the made metal clips on the back to clip in the metal frame which made a high risk of injury and destruction of the back panel to open the phone and with imacs they used very strong neyodinium magnets to hold the front glass. They were anti repair and always will.
Explore Gadgets that's because it's the original and it's sort of a public beta. Apple doesn't know what the costumers want so they just made something that works and listen to what the costumers want. Take a look at iPhone 4-6S, the screen/back pops out with the removal of only two screws (same for iPhones today but there's glue now and many different types of screws). You don't lose any features of you replace parts of these iPhones. Macs before 2012 are also easily upgradable. You just need to remove some screws (or twist the bottom of the Mac mini) and you can easily upgrade RAM and storage. You can even upgrade the CPU and GPU in the iMacs (the front glass is held by magnets that are strong, but not insanely strong. You can easily get it off with a plastic card). Then Apple f-cked everything up by soldering everything to the board.
@@LuisMan123 apples pc and laptop products are highly repairable dont just take the mobile market, also the i liked 2g
im glad about the upgradeability for the new surface, what we need now is sodimm slots and a desktop cpu socket with accessories desinged to add watercooling like a thin ass radiator and thin tubing with thin ass fans
I’ve had a surface pro 4 for years and never noticed the SD-card slot!
What??
Aditya Narayansreejith Yeah, it’s hidden behind the Kickstand and I never noticed it.
I even went out and bought a USB-A to micro-SD card dongle to loose when I was doing some Raspberry Pi work.
I remember looking at the Surface Connect cable, thinking it was SD-Card, but realising it wasn’t. I forgot that it was even a feature.
Me too. It’s nice to know I’m not alone 😂
Yeah, I've heard that a few times from various people.
Haha. Now you know! ;)
Road to 500K!!!
he deserves millions of subscribers
@@luiis6674 nah he deserves billions (:
Ikr he deserves 500K or even more
Road to 600K
For the adhesive removal, use a "caramel wheel" or automotive pin stripe removal tool. Works great on that type of adhesives which usually see on car badges.
Wow, that's such a good call! Also, doesn't that adhesive look like RTV?
You are MAGIC, Hugh, you are just what the customer needs for repairing hard-ware and soft-ware, kind regards.
Nice one 👍🏽 can’t wait to see you get to 500k!! A huge mile stone! Congrats man you deserve it you’ve inspired many many people to restore there old broken phones (including me)!
This is the first time Hugh repair a Microsoft Surface, Good job!🎉
I remember back when Hugh had this ariana mouse pad where he used to do his tiny gadget repairs / upgrades. You've come a really long way. Keep up the good work!
Superbly informative. No fast forward or skipping details thank you.
i am not that type who writes comments when early, i watch the whole video, then say I LOVE IT! keep up hugh im A BIG fan since 2015 :) you inspired me to start my channel
keep it up man! :D
For a year at this point, I have been looking forward to Saturday afternoons at work cuz when I’m on my break, your uploads are always between 15 minutes to an hour old. Thaks for giving me something to look forward to 🙏🙏
Looking fresh Hugh!
I just realized that all techs use whatever keyboard is available near by xD. Uve helped me quite a lot at my job so keep up the awesome vids!
I’d imagine that if the microphone was left on during the adhesive removal that this video may have been demonetised 🤷🏼♂️😂😂
WORLD needs more peoples like hugh! HE can restore every device! Less trash more working cheaper devices
Relax it's not like he's getting them out of the sea he's buying them off eBay
Hey！Hugh, the adhesive clue, to my experience, can be removed by the nail polish remover. You can have a try.
You are the luckiest man on earth getting that off without breaking it. I've been working in a repair shop for 3 years now (nowhere near as long as you have been doing these) but the surface 3 4 and 5 have the most fragile thing I've ever worked on. Although after that they use more flexible glass and I personally daily a surface pro X with windows 11
Try to use WD40 to remove the hard to remove adhesive😊
I heard people using wd40 to remove the silicone around bathtubs which works beautifully, but after a while, it tends to eat the new silicone as well.
Not sure how true it would be for adhesives though.
You should clean the area first before you apply a new adhesive
No.. Go to a hardware store and get some goof off removal.
Oh no
Repairing a broken machine is sort of a virtue in respecting what we have and minimise our consumption!
Keep it up!
10:43 After installing the new ssd, he just installed another 128MB memory card😂
AAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
one thing i learnt from laptop repair is always run the screen numbers before ordering anything as there is so many variants and alot of the time you find the part way cheaper also some displays can be changed from a 1366 panel to a 1080 one.
Now there's something you don't see everyday. Great work! Keep up! 😃
Great work Hugh! Like you, I am a firm believer in fixing old equipment - it can often be used for many years more. I still have a Surface pro 3 that serves as a ‘family’ shared computer, and while I am a Mac user, I do also have a Surface laptop 2 for the times when I need to use a Windows machine. I would love to replace the battery on our old Surface pro 3, but I don’t have the courage (or skill) to remove the display! Thanks for another great video.
Microsoft learning the wrong things from Apple, making somethings hard to repair
In regards to removing the adhesive, try a razor blade. Worked great for me on ipads. You just run it down the side and take off most of the adhesive in one go. Don't use it on the non metal parts though.
Yay! Glad to see that someone has repaired one of these unrepairable devices!
Only problem is... what happens when the battery eventually fails, as it will do at some point? Those batteries are glued in like no tomorrow!
P.S. I have a Surface Pro 3 myself and that is a great device, shame about the lack of repairability though.
I've done a screen replacement on this tablet. Getting rid of the black adhesive was piss easy, with a sharp knife it scrapes off like butter
I love the final words “and we’re done” 😂👍 keep up the good videos Jeffrey
For removing the adhesive I'd use a sharpened metal spudger. Wrap some sandpaper around a block of wood and use it to sharpen each side. Works a treat!
Ooooo I'm early! Love your videos!! 😎
I'm sure someone has pointed it out before, but they make heating pads for reptile enclosures that I've found help a LOT when trying to loosen glue, since it only actually heats up to about 10 degrees above ambient, it's also pretty handy to use before using a hot air station on it. just put it on the pad and come back to it an hour later.
Love your content Hugh's Hope You Get to 500k subscribers! :P
i TOTALLY feel your pain with the adhesive. i had to repair a surface book 2 a month ago and it took me around 2 hours to remove all the former adhesive stuff. god knows what they used to glue it together...
Windows is activated automatically because of SLP (System-Locked Preinstallation), where the key is embedded in the UEFI firmware.
Also makes old Lenovo clients really easy to repourpose :)
same with all laptops that have Windows 10 pre-installed. Just run the windows 10 installer from Microsoft and you're good to go.
@@rudskyful And make sure to have a spare product key or try transferring it over when swapping out a motherboard.
Hi, I was wondering why don't you use a migration tools to copy the software from one drive to another (Seagate disk wizards). It will ensure all the driver will be as same as the original so it will work better. I used to do this for my hdd to ssd upgrade for my laptop
10:38 128mb sd card? That thing still exists!?!?
Been subbed since 7k it’s great to see your channel grow!
I thought the dark broken LCD part was a person
I like videos like this. You just earned a subscriber.
The 'gap' you noticed while dissasembling was most likely caused by battery swelling, pushing the screen out of the chassis. Same thing happened to my SP4 (albeit much worse), other SP4 owners will have experienced the same thing too.
Worth noting to be extra careful on the bottom left and not go in too deep with the pick on that side. Was working on a free unit with a bad hard drive and now the screen is broken in the process.
Love your channel for your restoration content, it’s good to see that there are people in this world that care about restoration and repair
Dear Hugh, nice to see you work again, thanks for showing and kind regards.
Yeah, it’s okay to mess around anything with connected battery.
1217257 yeah, I mean, that was a bit...
It'd make more sense to leave it connected and being cautious considering that disconnecting the battery requires him to take out literally everything else, including the motherboard (which could be shorted out if you try to take it out).
Kyan I might be wrong but there’s a higher chance to short when you are connecting cables with many pins to the socket. You just can’t do this with single movement. I’ve killed my iPhone 5 motherboard doing this, maybe just a bad luck, but I’ve learnt my lesson😀
1217257 There is a high chance but the way the surface battery connects is with a pad that uses the motherboard’s pressure when connected to the case to make contact, so to disconnect the battery to prevent shorts, he’d have to remove everything from the housing which has the potential for shorting something out doing that.
Kyan didn’t know that:( we’ll, I hope Microsoft do better now with their new surface machines
I love watching your vids. They're so calming and informative. Your voice isn't annoying like many other RUclipsrs.
Microsoft: making Surface more repairable.
Apple: making their products more difficult to repair, puts tremendous amount of repair price
The surface isn't really repairable. In 90% of the cases you'll break your panel while removing it. And inside only the ssd is changeble and maybe the battery.
An iPhone can be at least opened without completely destroying it.
I hear an isheep coming.
@@exploregadgets1774 I hear a closed minded person coming (android user here btw)
As the first guy said, Surface is not repairable. Whats your point?
@@riceexe You're a close minded salty pineapple fanboy/fangirl who can't accept the truth and always argue with people that Pineapple shit is the best.
4:20 what you have also done is get a replace ribbon cable matching the samsung display.
7:27
Microsoft:*evil laugh*
goof off products: *enters the chat*
That black spot looks like a person chilling on the screen 🤣❤️
Surface Pro 4 BIOS looks like Windows settings lol
It's a good design honestly
@@SkynetCyb Not just good. It is the best.
my hp bios looks like ms-dos
@@Ev11nroo i want to install Windows 10 but when i press on my New HP. Noos optipns: tEsTs
Its nice that a company actually made a good looking BIOS.
I did my own replacement of the surface pro 4 display and I found that using the heat gun to heat the adhesive you were having such a hard time with allowed it to come off much easier. Heating and removing over and over.
Theyre only giving you 2 pcie lanes ... seriously :D
You talk very politely about previous users! Great video, better mentality!
I hope the 1% that reads this will follow their dreams and never give up. My dream is to become a successful RUclipsr.
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Sad that you are commenting something completely unrelated to this video.
Also the orginal or "same as orignal" adhesive can be bought on aliexpress. It's either the original or a laser-cut adhesive which is cut the same way as the original. Aliexpress is probably the best place where you can find most of the surface pro parts even like the wifi antena, LG screen or the battery.
Microsoft really cares about the eco system! They knew about the electronic waste issue!
Would loved to see how a battery replacement would go. I have the same laptop with a new SSD and battery waiting to install. Thanks for the video.
I’ve done several, pain in the ass.. Toptip: for removal of the adhesive: use heat. It doesn’t break as much and sometimes you peel whole strings.
I’ve never had the screenassembly in one piece pulled from the frame. Good job!
Hello. For the 'tar like' adhesive removal you need to heat it up. It scrapes easier.
You are incredible correcting the devices.
I took mines apart recently and yes, that glue was strange. I did leave it in place so I could tack the screen back onto that sticky tar-like surface. It holds quite well, but is able to be pulled off carefully. Leaving it like that till I need a new battery. At that time I'll use repair tape to remount the screen. Awesome videos.
Hugh you should use nylon scrapers for the adhesive, it’ll prevent scratches as it’s not a hard enough material.
Wow you managed to take the panel off without destroying the glass. Good job.
I have the same model and have always wanted to upgrade the ssd but was unsure, might pull the trigger now!
What is the small PCB called attached to the LCD screen? A touch control board? 2:48 You installed Win 10 Pro? 3:43 could you also have replaced the existing ribbon/ flex cable (that didn't fit) with one that would, and kept that first (new) replacement screen? Thank you
I love my Surface tablet. The quality is very good and the performance is great. Thank you for this video Hugh.
After lots of research and doing this myself, here's a few points to note,
1. If you have to replace the screen do not get an original Samsung screen. These are prone to failure due to overheating the connection. LG is the way to go, as as per the video go for the SP5 screen
2. You should replace the thermal paste. The old stuff will be dry and useless
3. A new battery is £30, so just replace that as well.
4. The touch L shaped board needs to have good contact with the screen for earthing. The original is attached with conductive paste. So I'd get conductive glue to hold it down to the new screen.
5. Take your time removing the screen. I can easily take up to an hour. I use playing cards, heat and alcohol and work my way round.
6. Take care when removing the screen at the top. The antennas are there and easily destroyed. You can get a new one from AliExpress for I think £15 if you do break it, or I've seen folk just using tinfoil.
I'd swear that adhesive looked like the same stuff they use for automotive glass like the windshield and rear window. To get those windows out they use a wire tool that slices through the tar like goo with ease. I'm surprised you got the screen off first try without breaking it. Well done.
If you like to live dangerously like me, I've found a chisel-tip razor / craft knife helps immensely for removing tough adhesives from devices like the Surface series. The issue is the inherent roughness of the metal its adhered to. More surface area from all of the microscopic bumps and etches in the metal give that already strong adhesive more to bond and cling to.
I use acetone to remove adhesive. Mineral spirits also works well.
try using a q tip dipped in goo gone for removing that adhesive followed up with rubbing alcohol because the goo one does leave an oily residue
I had a Surface Pro for 4 years before upgrading and giving it to my GF who is still using it to this day. Love how long they last
In the future, I suggest a citrus-based solvent to remove the adhesive. Just use a Q-tip to apply, allow to sit for a few minutes, then start scraping.
Reapplying thermal paste will be a good idea too
If you have a surface pro 4, it's about the time where it's scheduled to replace the screen. Flicker gate and an expanding failing battery.
Both items has it's hardware failure that causes the time to replace to occur. I would recommend if you are replacing your battery, just replace the following:
1. Battery --> and some specialized double side tape.
2. Screen --> get the sp5 version with the new cable to work with sp4 motherboard. (getting the sp4 screen will give you the same problem down the road).
3. Bigger hard drive SSD (get a new one if you can afford it as this would be a perfect time, largest installed so far is 2 TB ssd m.2 evo).
4. CPU Thermal Grease (if you are going to clean out the fan, which at this time around should be clogged with lint).
** The only down side is the memory is welded down and can't be upgraded. Unless someone knows how to solder or I won't attempt to do this upgrade.
Suggestion:
I would not glue down the screen more than needed to or just enough to hold the screen down. Since you know there is some maintenance bound to occur in this machine. This will it will be more easily accessible.
I did a battery replacement on my Surface 2 RT. It's a big job since the battery is at the bottom of the stack; nearly everything had to be removed. Successful too. The original battery was bulging which at least made the screen removal very easy, since it was already popped out in places, due to the bulging battery. Cheers.
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Great video, i found that it is a lot easier to cut the double side tape with a razor blade. great finishing and took only 5 mins!
Your videos are very useful and educational thanks
Im sorry but who else thought he had like 10 mil subs but he is still on the way to 500k?! GIVE THIS MAN SOME CLOUT
This is refreshing ❤ Im planning on taking surface pro 4
Loved the challenge that you have taken by fixing Surface product. You are Amazing 🌹👏🏻
I love your videos. I like that you’re doing stuff other then phones
as someone who has worked at a computer store repairing devices. I will definitely say that the surface computer is very difficult to repair this requires a lot of experience. and I will also say that this is a very difficult device to repair especially if the glass is shattered because if the glass of the panel is completely shattered it will take you 10 times longer and to be able to work on one of these because of Microsoft's glue being so damn strong. and I also too had the same problem with the LG/ Samsung display problem with the mix-up with the weird cable problem that he had. not to mention if you are working on one of these he made it look super easy but you do need a lot of heat to be able to pry off the display because also up where the webcam is on the tablet at the top of where the display is Guess what Microsoft did they put the Wi-Fi antennas at the top of the display so if you're prying off the glass of the display you are also damaging your Wi-Fi antennas completely. like we're talking about completely ripping the antenna cable so terribly that you get worse Wi-Fi performance once you're done not even joking. I'm surprised he didn't even have that trouble!. I have done 4, 5, and 6 and even 7 surface pro repairs I did one of each model and after a while we just quit doing screen repairs. because of the glue being so terrible to work on and also damaging the antennas.
Bro, you're also at half a mill subs!!! I was subbed to you after you had about 5 vids online... Proud of you man!!!
That is why I usually open up to find out what is the part before making the purchase - from the LG panel to the samsung panel, saving me a headache and logistical wait nightmare
I wonder if his Surface Pro was factory refurbished already, and that's how it wound up with the next gen's screen. There were a lot of problems with the original Pro 4 screens and Microsoft got stuck doing a lot of replacements with refurbished units under warranty. I wouldn't be surprised if they were refurbishing the returns with the next generations screens to send back out as replacements for the bad ones. That would explain why his unit had a screen that the Pro 4's weren't supposed to have.
A lot of people wound up returning multiple replacements for the same screen problem. Microsoft probably eventually said "screw this, start replacing the bad Pro 4 warranty return screens with the Pro 5 screens before sending them out as refurbs."
The damage to the unit in this video looks like it was physical damage rather than the type of damage that plagued the original screens.
Wow! Amazing how you just did that repair. Thanks for sharing!