Starcraft 3 will always be out of reach, i cant deal with a bad starcraft 3. Dawn of war 3 was so bad it killed the franchise. I'd rather i never get it than letting some greedy company tainted what little legacy it has.
Agreed, I’d honestly rather the series end on a good game than continue with blizzard as they are. Luckily blizz wouldn’t be interested since it’s not that profitable but maybe there will be a StarCraft mobile game who knows
I think there was a lot of neglected information that went unexplored here. Like how the Heart of the Swarm expansion for SC2 introduced one of the most boring and imbalanced periods in the competitive scene, or how the game went free-to-play in 2017 (not too long after the release of the Legacy of the Void expansion); and how the game did receive balance patches, cosmetics (albeit locked behind micro-transactions that funded some competition contracts), and how the game even had a massive editor update that introduced the ability for fans to make custom campaigns officially, that even supported save files. 8 minutes isn't even close enough to the amount of time needed to dissect the history SC2 alone. Not to mention the series as a whole, or the original game. BTW, Warcraft was also a RTS series. So Starcraft was not the first foray into the genre for Blizzard.
I am enjoying the mods that the community is making and am actively following some modders/play testers for updates and stuff. I love it! The SC community is going strong even if the game is no longer considered main stream.
Something he didn't hit on is the modding scene is quite large. So new campaigns are able to be made. There were some big developments with the campaign editor.
The "modding" scene has always been a backbone of Starcraft. To this day, there's still a solid niche of people creating & playing custom maps for Brood War (it could really use some updates to expand its potentials, but the community has made things like SCA to let you save/load progress in customs between sessions at least). To say nothing of SC2, of course.
Honestly, I think StarCraft II esports is in an amazing spot *because* Blizzard took their hands off of the wheel. We’re still seeing new pro players, we’re still seeing new amazing tournaments and new metas emerge. With how much bullshit Blizzard is going through, I think leaving StarCraft alone is the best thing they can do. They ruined Diablo with Immortal, they ruined Warcraft with reforged, they ruined Overwatch with OW2, but StarCraft’s name hasn’t been tainted the same way, and I’d much rather keep it that way.
The only major thing they can do to make it better is put in a proper offline LAN mode like they should have originally. That way, tournaments don't have to deal with stupid server lag, and people with spotty internet can play with each other easier at home (which is still a larger group of folks than most people think it is, even in America).
Starcraft is like a tank. It has "died" so many times, but for some reason it's still alive right now and has SEVERAL Esports Tournaments in a year and 133K ACTIVE PLAYERS.
"The slow and deliberate murder of a once beloved franchise by a disgusting, greedy, and soulless corporation whose very existence is owed to the franchises they are now meticulously butchering." There. The title is fixed. You're welcome.
@@Dan55888 people today dont play strategy games for the most part. the west mostly plays FPS,mobas, 3th person action adventure games like god of war or elden ring. and asia play mostly gacha games and RPG games. RTS have been dead for most people since long ago. starcraft 1 is my favorite game. played it for many year when I was a kid. people that leaved blizzard and tried to make other RTS resulted in crappy games. the best example is Age of Empires 4 when people complained it looked bad graphically. and even featured a ultra low setting. but Microsoft was right in what they were doing. the were not targeting kids or you adults with RTX3080 cards that when flashy graphics. The average player of age of empires is over 30 and plays on an old computed a lot of them on intel integrated graphics that is why they market the game not with some raytracing but with an ultra low mode able to run on any old computer. the only persons I know that bought age of empires 4 is my dad and uncle both 60 and 54. Also there is no shortage of new RTS but most of them are just more of the same. or reused ideas. love a few new ones like rift braker. but they are something to play the campaign and forget. not to play online for months or years.
Right now in Korea, Brood war had hit its new post-progaming era peak and has been beating league in terms of viewership and has been #1 in Afreeca (mainstream korean stream website over Twitch) for past 2 years. It's largely thanks to twitch chess-scene-like revival and formation of streamer teamleagues and likes. Even before that, viewership has been strong with ASL finals hitting 100k+ viewers most of the time. You can always revive a "dead" or "dying" scene with great content. People will follow that.
Fun fact, I’ve been living in South Korea for the past 8-9 years, and you can still walk into some department stores and, alongside the PlayStation and Switch games, you’ll find copies of StarCraft II in box. It’s STILL selling.
Starcraft 2 isnt dead yet, major tournaments get constantly around 20000 live spectators for the past 3 years (no decline since then), ofc it is far beyond its peak but esl, ... keep it alive. This year a new balance patch system was "designed", meaning pro players make balance decisions (1patch so far, which improved especially the zvp matchup greatly). Besides tournaments you can find games in seconds across all regions and leagues + a new map pool comes out every few months
I still play SC2. I played competitively in college (2013) and loved it. I still get on and play as its one of those games I just dumped sooo much time and dedication into.
I still play ladder 1-1 too, even if i dont have more then ~10 hours a week time. There is imho nothing like it, a deep strategy game , in which you can compete against others with matches that dont take longer then 15 minutes on average.
I played SC when I was 16-17. We used to play all night with friends in LAN parties. I play the remaster with my 11 year old nowadays. Other then C&C it is my favourite ever RTS
It's still alive. Albeit in smaller numbers. The modder community keeps the game alive tho. People like GiantGrantGames have ushered a golden era of player generated content for SC2
well major tournaments also still get around 20k spectators, the pro scene is still alive and 1v1 matches can be found in seconds across all regions and leagues
You got me good with the title. You seem to be one of the people surprised that people still play games older than 3 years. Blizzard announced that they will no longer actively develop SC2 in 2020, so this video was very timely. About your opening statement, please do name me another RTS that is superior in anything besides viewership. The ease of entry, the story, the smooth control and great balance, and the moddability are still unparralleled, let alone surpassed by anything in the genre, at least afaik. Zerg blood is red btw.
Ok. Not sure what you mean by superior. Mechanics, story and etc is up to the personal preference. C&C Tiberium Wars/Kane’s Wrath: unique mechanic of combining/modding some units in the field, infantry taking advantage of buildings, engineers being engineers, blue Tiberium says Hi to golden minerals :). We also have Kane! Age of Empires II: ehm, tower rush? Homeworld 1,2 Remastered: 3d combat, attack vectors being relevant, formations that actually matter.
Another day another video on the series being dead. The series will likely return, but right now Blizzard cant seem to put out a game without awful FTP elements and this is all during the MS buying ABK. If Ms buy them itll be more likely than ever.
The problem is that all the original devs of SC1 and SC2 have left to form their own companies. There are no experienced RTS devs left at blizzard and finding competent replacements will be difficult due to the relative lack of new games in that genre. It mirrors the "sprites vs 3d models" situation in the industry where there's simply not enough people left with experience in making sprite art for it to be financially viable as an artstyle since you have to redevelop these lost skills and techniques from scratch. MS have already experienced this problem before. They had great success with Killer instinct 2013 as an Xbox one exclusive, but are unable to develop a sequel due to the lack of new western devs with fighting game experience. That game was spearheaded by the old guard that came together in Double helix/Iron galaxy to resurrect that series, but they have also left for greener pastures.
@@cell4224 There's a good chance MS might outsource SC3 or at least hire a team like Relic or Creative Assembly to help work on it. When it comes to RTSs in IPs they own, they've tended to outsource primary development or at least contract co-developers. Most recently, they did this with Relic for AoE4, and despite some launch issues, it's been a really good game.
Same. I'd check out a novel called Nova, which is a backstory to the game's main character. I still have my copy that I bought probably around 2007 or so.
I would love a 3rd StarCraft maybe made by a different studio. So many childhood memories of SC1 and college memories of SC2. Thanks for uploading this video!
I never played Starcraft 1, but my best friend during high school got me into Starcraft 2, because I saw him play one time, expressed interest and he wanted to be able to play with someone. Watching these videos really brings me back to those simpler times. I will always remember that one session we had where I was so sick and had such a sore throat I ended up eating every single banana in the house, just because it made the pain bearable for like 5 minutes. I had never eaten so many bananas before and I have never eaten so many bananas since. Starcraft, your future might be more than uncertain, but I will always remember you fondly.
I've played Starcraft 1/Broodwar since i was 8 years old and now with SC 2 since highschool. I was sadden to hear Blizzard's announcement back in 2020 when they decided to stop supporting SC 2 with new updates.. Maybe I can still hope that someday in the future Starcraft may get something special.. 😇
We could barely be sure, since our info on the amount of Starcraft players daily is vague and our last lead who knew abt it, pretty much died years ago. But according to some people Starcraft 2 is still going strong as an rts.
Starcraft being a staple of gaming and once beloved by all was ruined by a negligent company that has not updated the game in years! Team Fortress 2 Players: "First time?"
The real killer IMO was when Blizzard sued Kespa at the same time League of Legends launched in Korea (2012). They literally forced them to switch to SC2, so guess what, they swithced to LoL instead. Not to mention PC Bang is incredibly popular in Korea, and unlike SC1 you had to pay to play SC2 (on top of PC Bang hourly rate). Meanwhile LoL is F2P....
This game is my favorite childhood game of all time, I just turned 27 in October and Starcraft was my favorite game to play after elementary school, I remember playing all those custom games and looking for a key generator along time ago. Fast forward now, I'm practicing and learning how to macro and looking forward to controlling big armies, never knew how important vultures and spider mines. So addicting for a 24 year old game, I so want to get into multiplayer, and it won't stop me from learning!
@@alexxx4434 yeah i been invested in it lately, have an idea of what's going on, just need to take notes and remember what's Best and I'll show more room for improvement. Feel like peak age for me to get into StarCraft BW, i don't have the fastest fingers and a Brain of a goldfish but i ain't giving up!
I mean there is already a base idea for a first person shooter, team/class based and centered around building. Natural selection has been out for forever and I loved it back in the day.
Right now, Activision Blizzard is looking for a buyer and Microsoft is trying to get them. And no one can say what will happen to the franchise after Activision Blizzard got bought up. Another thing: I don't get how the write concludes that the cancelation of an unannounced first person shooter is the death of the franchise. Canceling prototypes is normal in game dev. And as he mentioned, SC2 came out after StarCraft Ghost was canceled. So canceling an announced third person shooter is fine but canceling an unanounced first person shooter equals death of the franchise? That makes no sense to me. This video does not do the topic any justice....
Yeah the video creator probably has the fundamental belief that SC won't survive as a pure RTS game, and they need to go to a more popular genre, similar to Warcraft 3 shifted from RTS to MMORPG with WoW (and became super popular).
Starcraft has always been my favorite sci fi setting of all time. I just wish they would expand upon the world in any way, be it another RTS or some kind of spin off. It is downright SHAMEFUL how modern blizzard has all but smoked out one of it’s former big 3 pillars. They hide Starcraft 1 and 2 at the way back end of the Blizzard store and don’t even feature it on Blizzcon banners in favor of WoW spin-offs as if they are actively trying to hide its existence. In anyways though, it is a blessing and a curse. Starcraft is probably better dying with the dignity it still has rather than get dragged through the mud by NuBlizz
>Suck out all the fun, dark, bleak and harsh atmosphere of the 1st game >Retcon Zerg into literal Dindus and butcher them and the Protoss >Make SCII gimmicky and build around balance instead of going into the 1st game's steps and make it so that players would exploit the hell out of each race's capabilities to their fullest >Create one mediocre campaign with redeeming elements and two horrible ones >Refuse to do anything new with the series (see the death of StarCraft: Ghost and that multiplayer FPS set in it) Also in the end people play SCII for the custom maps and co-op commanders which from my P.O.V. should replace skirmish/multiplayer because it gives people variety, new gameplay style and tactical/strategic choices. This and their other series were ruined by Blizzard changing too fast and ActiVision's corporate greed and stupidity.
SC2 was Blizz last good game then it was straight down hill. Overwatch was surprisingly a hit but was the generic cutting room floor scraps of what was the ambitious project titan. Blizzard is just an empty name now and is for all intent just Activision under a different brand as all of the actual talent and leadership that allowed such masterpieces and level of polish to be created are long gone. Now it's just remasters, remakes and uninspired cash-grabs designed by suits looking at numbers and psychological manipulation research.
a fps starcraft seems cool but like why tho. To me it seems like activision telling blizzard "make it fps", but it shouldn't be especially considering how diablo 4 did incredibly well. Just goes to show that these kinds of games are still wanted in this space.
2:40 Huh, no wonder why Protos feel like space elves, Zerg like bio orcs and humans are either noblest of nobles or evilest of evils. Kinda miss the old unique identities that races had back in SC1.
I would say that RTS kinda isn't in style right now, but Starcraft is very open for other genres. Survival. fps third person shooter. You could do alot. But Blizzard doesn't seem to want to do anyting with it. Which screams to me either they don't care about it anymore, they have no idea what to do with it on a story level(Then just do spin offs) or they don't have the money and are relying on cash cow games like Diablo Immortal, Overwatch and COD.
I think it'd be hard to play a 3rd installment; I've always been in it for the campains, fun stories with memorable characters, with great voice acting and legendary cinematics. The direction it took over the last 1&1/2 expansions really left a sour taste in my mouth. Felt like it was written by people who had nothing to do with SC1's story, or just wanted to get it over with. The whiplash from Stukov and Dugaulle looking down on the realities of war to Kerrigan becoming a fiery space goddess with the power of friendship to fight the big bad has big "anime original ending" vibes.
I feel you bro. The sequels (to Brood War) feel like they were written by someone who was in a happy relationship, while the first two games feel like they were written by someone going through a divorce. What I mean is that the first games had grounding and grit to them, whereas the sequels feel flighty and fluffy. Also, I find it pretty egregious that the plot element that drives the sequels was introduced in a *secret mission* in Brood War. Like did you ever feel that Duran and the hybrids would be the main focus of any sequel back in the day? The impression I got after finishing Brood War was that Kerrigan would be the primary antagonist of the sequel, and not someone Raynor still wanted to save.
@@Ebalosus Honestly Duran and the hybrids being central to the plot actually does kind of make sense, even if Kerrigan was handled poorly. Despite the fact that it was from a secret mission, the stuff he was up to was obviously a big deal and wasn't just going to be relegated to a side story.
@@Ebalosus The problem was that Brood War ends with Kerrigan having completely uncontestable victory. They retconned Mengsk/ the Terrans/ the Protoss etc. in order to make them more powerful so they could fight again. Brood War wrote them into a corner. The purifiers were a cool idea to buff the toss, but written terribly. I wanted so badly for Selendis to assassinate Artanis to become the next protoss leader once he went off the deep end and suggested they sever their nerve cords. The UED could've buffed Terran. But besides those options they were pretty screwed.
@@tehy123 not really, because Starcraft was never about saving the galaxy, let alone the universe; and while I concede that Duran being a Xel’Naga probably didn’t factor in when Metzen wrote the script for _Dark Origin,_ I never would’ve thought that the stakes would be that high. Would it factor in to a hypothetical Brood War sequel? Sure. Would it be the overarching focus? Hell no! It would be akin to making losers like Cerberus from Mass Effect 1 the overarching focus of the sequ- oh, Bioware actually did that…
@@Ebalosus So what was the campaign VS the Overmind then? Face it, SC1 was focused around fighting an evil alien threat that came out of nowhere and threatened the whole galaxy, no reason why SC2 shouldn't be. Even Brood War was about a big Terran invasion of similar scope.
The loss of Ghost still hurts to this day. I'm glad Nova made it into SC2, and Grey DeLisle's casting was perfect for her, but that only makes me wish she'd actually gotten her own game all the more.
im actually glad that they cancelled a starcraft fps. the game would have killed the franchise, while its actually possible we do still get a starcraft 3 or some other kind of rts out of it. a starcraft fps sounds like one of the worst idea's ever. which to be fair blizzard has been having a lot of those lately
Well, I don’t know if they went through with it, but if they did, Microsoft buying active lizard (hehe) might have some good things coming to not just StarCraft, but other blizzard games
3:06 Hey! Alot of Starcraft 2 Odyssey custom campaign cutscenes was featured here!!!! Then here 4:27 and here 4:37 and holy also here 4:49 and also 6:55 AND HOLY HELL THE AMOUNT OF SCENES THAT ODYSSEY GOT SHOWN HERE IS ALOT 8:01 Yall people need to play it, its extremely good, even tho theres no voice actors its still worth to play
Demise of Starcraft 2, yes. Brood War? It thrives, tournament scene in South Korea is big. ASL is casted in English by Tasteless and Artosis. It is a great time to be a Brood War fan. Brood War is much larger than SC2 in South Korea now.
StarCraft 1 isn’t dead bruh. 200k live viewers everyday. (Afreeca + Twitch combined) It’s like saying where is Chess 2? We need another Chess game. Even the pros said «don’t touch the game, we are afraid you will ruin it»
I'd love a StarCraft Ghost or FPS revival. I'd also love a StarCraft 3 as long as the story is good. I've lost hope on it's multiplayer. It went from creative lobby's in the 90s and experimental gameplay to who can click through a preset formula of moves faster.
More than 10 years in and we are still hearing people crying "DeD gAeM". Starcraft 2 has settled into its niche, there is still an extremely active and healthy E-sports scene, a dedicated community who have been playing and watching the games for decades, and a interest base for modding and custom content. The game is very much community driven now, people in the community make maps which get selected and show cased through the team liquid map contest and TLMC tournaments, and then get incorporated into tournaments and updated into ladder play. There is now even a community leaders balance team who have implemented balance tweaks into the game, and now in my opinion it is in the best state it has ever been in. It doesn't need to be the most popular game/esport of all time to be thriving and healthy. It has plateaued and found its interest group, and now the game direction has been passed over to the community to keep it fresh with new maps and design tweaks. Its not an apocalypse scenario for Starcraft and the RTS genre will still continue to live on. Some people over obssess about popularity and feel like something is failing because of how it measures up against something else, really a thing can be great as its own stand alone thing without being the most popular thing in the world. Hockey is not as popular as football, does that mean hockey is a dead game and failing as a sport? No, it is still thriving within its interest group and adding value to peoples lives. Starcraft was still an extremely profitable endeavour, it has been the source of many millions of dollars in revenues from different sources, people have built careers around starcraft, tournaments continue to exist with $100,000+ prize pools. Seems like Starcraft is still very much alive and well, all just depends on your perspective. There have always been "the sky is falling" types when it comes to Starcraft from both within and outside the community, but in reality there are very few games as old as Starcraft with the same kind of ongoing interest and support.
About a month ago I went to reinstall sc2 on my pc because when I was a kid I was really bad at it then I saw it was free haha, I would definitely play a third one if they had new units and maybe a forth race (idk how that would work lore wise) I love the genre and star craft always felt like the most flushed out classes in any game and the game still looks really good. They need to fix that general chat tho OMG is that shit wild 24/7 🤣
Good video but the RTS genre absolutely did not become “oversaturated to the point of disinterest” and MOBAs are not RTS. It was always kind of a niche genre and increased due to various factors, among them the big devs that started the genre like Westwood met fates like being gobbled up and shut down by EA. Or like Blizzard, became a “games as a service” company and sidelined their own franchises to milk subscription schemes. The point is they largely didn’t continue making games and the genre’s struggling popularity over the years has basically always been a lack of new games. Because the genre always lacked attention, there were never really any studios doing current work with living communities, rather it’s all old classics, modding, and the occasional new entry that never gains more than a niche following.
The whole E-Sport thing killed it, they made a game for Korean cyber cafés. It's like anything, go and cater to an extreme and you've dealt your hand; It was the same for the Warcraft base builders and then WOW, that killed that label for me. It's ok for shortcomings, but not for long term engagement and reputation. Now we have the opposite with extreme casual gaming and pay2win, let's see how that fares for labels.
"The game's 2010 sequel was met with similar acclaim." I dunno about that. Amazing single player campaign (besides the story) and QoL features for casual players but balance was a mess, lack of LAN angered everyone I knew. The same QoL features reduced the skill gap between competitive players. SC1 pro scene viewers were double SC2's towards the end of Blizzard funding.
Another thing to consider is that Activision-Blizzard does not like competition within their own projects. They killed off "Project Titan", their next-gen MMO in order to avoid internal competition with WoW; they practically fought tooth and nail against WoW-Classic until the Nostalrius project proved it would be popular. Call of Duty is a major title for Activision-Blizzard and from an Activision-Blizzard bean-counter perspective, a Starcraft FPS could cannibalize sales and resources that could otherwise go into another CoD game. Remember, CoD has a several year development period and Activision-Blizzard has multiple teams working on different CoD games so that they can spit one out every year. Say Call of Duty sells 10 million copies any given year and a Starcraft FPS shows up and now CoD sells 7 or 8 million copies while SC sells 3-4 million. It doesn't matter that they netted more sales, the CoD project lost 20-30% of its market. This means the CoD team needs to get downsized or moved over, resources reallocated etc. This may interrupt their ability to launch titles on a yearly basis. Then investors start questioning the health of CoD, not seeing the bigger picture. I imagine investors see this like a volatile medieval alchemy experiment, converting lead to gold; once you've got a formula that works, you don't mess with it out of fear of blowing yourself up or being unable to recreate the magic.
Maybe if Microsoft now fixes problems that existed in the game design relating balance, the community will revive the game on its own. I would play few games of StarCraft 2 than some FPS game just because is 1v1 and it doesn't require the reflex skill of FPS gamer to be good. Hope this game lives on.
I'm okay with this. I'd rather Starcraft go out with it's integrity intact then to see it beaten like a dead horse and suffer effects of Blizzard's Current Live Service virus.
Bottom line, Activision is greedy. They don't care about quality games or art. They care about money and money only. That's why Blizzard launched two lack luster expansions that destroyed the balance at the price of the first game.
Actually StarCraft would not be the 1st FPS game based on its RTS predecessor. Back in the days there was a FPS game 'Command & Conquer: Renegade' and it was based on its RTS predecessor. 😉
Forget about StarCraft 3. If it’s ever even made it won’t be done by the same people because they all left Blizzard, and the company culture that enabled them to consistently pull off such high quality has been dead and buried for over a decade now. The only thing that remains are the IPs but that is the least important thing. There’s no reason to expect anything great out of Blizzard ever again.
Sadly blizzard with Activision as the captain of the ship has become a greedy company that only focuses on making money. Sadly RTS titles don't generally make as much money, there are no subscription models for the game, no session pass or skins, or things of that nature. That is why Activision doesn't invest in making a new starcraft RTS game.
Ok here me out I've been thinking of this for years. Make a starcraft game that you play like a normal starcraft game, make ur base create troops and so on. But other players can open their game, choose a race and click match making, at that point they will either join a new game or join a current game and play fps or 3rd person shooter of one of the units in game. Unit A.I would still be a thing as well. I'm dying for someone to make this a reality for me it'd be so cool.
Microsoft/ActiBlizz needs to sell the franchise if they aren't going to do anything with it and just let it continue to die slowly. IMO, that's the only thing killing it. We have a company that owns the rights to it and is deliberately killing it. There are plenty of people out there that would pay for new content and plenty of money to be made to that end and I'm sure plenty of smaller companies out there that would be glad to make it.
Blizzard is not the same company or the same people for a while now. They're just an oversized studio that inherited their titles for former developers. I'd even say that the 2 SC2 expansions were already a decline, especially the story lines.
Blizzard Entertainment literally came up with a winning strategy and then decided to throw it in the trash and go with some other garbage that's not working out. That's like having winning strategies and having multiple Super Bowl rings and then throwing the playbook away and coming up with some new garbage that sucks.
The way Activison Blizzard has fallen, it's probably a good thing they didn't make another star craft game. It would not come close to the first 2 games and it would be monetized to hell.
classic college essay, where the evidence doesn't support your original vision, but you finish it anyway and get an A anyway, because the project was never about accuracy in the first place.
If the deal goes through with Microsoft they will get a team to make a Starcraft FPS or a game like Starcraft Ghost. I would actually kill the Gears of franchise and start Starcraft with the same team.
starcraft 2 wings of liberty did not have a better main story than ST1 and BW. Started good, bad at middle end became roated milk at the end and a insult as a final cinematic for the lore and characters.
a new starcraft project is to risky these cowards in suits would rather play it safe and milk what they currently have then risk there careers trying something new
Blizzard made their biggest mistake by not making Starcraft into the new Warhammer 40K. Starcraft could have expanded into first person shooter, turn-based, rpg, everything Warhammer is shooting their load at right now. But blizzard could have done it a decade and a half earlier with better results, with a dedicated set of teams to each one of those games, a marketing strategy and budget that puts Games Workshop to shame, and a gigantic overlap in audience . Starcraft and how it was treated is one of the truly gigantic blunders that have ever been made in video gaming history ever, let alone by such a gigantic Studio
To be more clear on my original comment, Starcraft is far more accessible than 40K is. With decade upon decade of intense deep dense lore, 40K is kind of hard to start unless you have a friend in the community who is willing to hold your hand for a while. Or you're a pedantic nerd like I am. Starcraft lore, by no means shallow, is way more accessible than 40K even if it's not as satisfying in the long run. These two franchises could have played off of each other and made themselves both Millions
There’s this huge rts sized hole in the gaming industry right now, I grew up playing StarCraft, Warcraft, and c&c on my dads work computer. I played StarCraft with my dad before I knew how to fucking read. It sucks to watch my favorite genre just die as gaming became more mainstream.
Starcraft 3 will always be out of reach, i cant deal with a bad starcraft 3. Dawn of war 3 was so bad it killed the franchise. I'd rather i never get it than letting some greedy company tainted what little legacy it has.
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Agreed, I’d honestly rather the series end on a good game than continue with blizzard as they are. Luckily blizz wouldn’t be interested since it’s not that profitable but maybe there will be a StarCraft mobile game who knows
Starcraft 3 is hanging out on a beach with Half Life 3.
@@zbop220 ...and Spore 2
Dawn of War 2 or maybe even Soulstorm killed it for me. I never understood how that series stayed alive. I liked the Retribution game mode though.
I think there was a lot of neglected information that went unexplored here. Like how the Heart of the Swarm expansion for SC2 introduced one of the most boring and imbalanced periods in the competitive scene, or how the game went free-to-play in 2017 (not too long after the release of the Legacy of the Void expansion); and how the game did receive balance patches, cosmetics (albeit locked behind micro-transactions that funded some competition contracts), and how the game even had a massive editor update that introduced the ability for fans to make custom campaigns officially, that even supported save files.
8 minutes isn't even close enough to the amount of time needed to dissect the history SC2 alone. Not to mention the series as a whole, or the original game.
BTW, Warcraft was also a RTS series. So Starcraft was not the first foray into the genre for Blizzard.
Agreed. Arguably Brood War or Wings of Liberty was definitely the peak of the series.
I am enjoying the mods that the community is making and am actively following some modders/play testers for updates and stuff. I love it! The SC community is going strong even if the game is no longer considered main stream.
Yeah this video felt kinda of pointless, a reread of the top paragraph of a Wikipedia page or something.
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Lol, the moment he said WoL had a "better" campaigning, you should have known this dude was full of sh@t
Something he didn't hit on is the modding scene is quite large. So new campaigns are able to be made. There were some big developments with the campaign editor.
UED First Light for example
Yeah Modding is still really big within the SC community.
The "modding" scene has always been a backbone of Starcraft. To this day, there's still a solid niche of people creating & playing custom maps for Brood War (it could really use some updates to expand its potentials, but the community has made things like SCA to let you save/load progress in customs between sessions at least).
To say nothing of SC2, of course.
wrrr
Honestly, I think StarCraft II esports is in an amazing spot *because* Blizzard took their hands off of the wheel.
We’re still seeing new pro players, we’re still seeing new amazing tournaments and new metas emerge. With how much bullshit Blizzard is going through, I think leaving StarCraft alone is the best thing they can do. They ruined Diablo with Immortal, they ruined Warcraft with reforged, they ruined Overwatch with OW2, but StarCraft’s name hasn’t been tainted the same way, and I’d much rather keep it that way.
The only major thing they can do to make it better is put in a proper offline LAN mode like they should have originally. That way, tournaments don't have to deal with stupid server lag, and people with spotty internet can play with each other easier at home (which is still a larger group of folks than most people think it is, even in America).
Damn, good point...
still best RTS game by FAR. you can tell how alive it is by seeing these mfers fishing for engagement using its name.
wrrr
Starcraft is like a tank. It has "died" so many times, but for some reason it's still alive right now and has SEVERAL Esports Tournaments in a year and 133K ACTIVE PLAYERS.
Sounds like a infested bunker
Hello! Im one of the 133k pro players in sc franchise. ❤ im proud to be a terran player 😊.
"The slow and deliberate murder of a once beloved franchise by a disgusting, greedy, and soulless corporation whose very existence is owed to the franchises they are now meticulously butchering."
There. The title is fixed. You're welcome.
Yeah, cause the games were good, I dunno how it died
This.
I read this in Jim sterling voice
they dont wanna maintain servers for a million players til time immemorial lol
@@Dan55888 people today dont play strategy games for the most part. the west mostly plays FPS,mobas, 3th person action adventure games like god of war or elden ring.
and asia play mostly gacha games and RPG games. RTS have been dead for most people since long ago. starcraft 1 is my favorite game. played it for many year when I was a kid.
people that leaved blizzard and tried to make other RTS resulted in crappy games.
the best example is Age of Empires 4 when people complained it looked bad graphically. and even featured a ultra low setting.
but Microsoft was right in what they were doing. the were not targeting kids or you adults with RTX3080 cards that when flashy graphics.
The average player of age of empires is over 30 and plays on an old computed a lot of them on intel integrated graphics that is why they market the game not with some raytracing but with an ultra low mode able to run on any old computer.
the only persons I know that bought age of empires 4 is my dad and uncle both 60 and 54.
Also there is no shortage of new RTS but most of them are just more of the same. or reused ideas. love a few new ones like rift braker. but they are something to play the campaign and forget. not to play online for months or years.
Right now in Korea, Brood war had hit its new post-progaming era peak and has been beating league in terms of viewership and has been #1 in Afreeca (mainstream korean stream website over Twitch) for past 2 years. It's largely thanks to twitch chess-scene-like revival and formation of streamer teamleagues and likes. Even before that, viewership has been strong with ASL finals hitting 100k+ viewers most of the time.
You can always revive a "dead" or "dying" scene with great content. People will follow that.
Fun fact, I’ve been living in South Korea for the past 8-9 years, and you can still walk into some department stores and, alongside the PlayStation and Switch games, you’ll find copies of StarCraft II in box. It’s STILL selling.
Bought my broodwar copy in 2007 , played since 00'
Starcraft 2 isnt dead yet, major tournaments get constantly around 20000 live spectators for the past 3 years (no decline since then), ofc it is far beyond its peak but esl, ... keep it alive. This year a new balance patch system was "designed", meaning pro players make balance decisions (1patch so far, which improved especially the zvp matchup greatly). Besides tournaments you can find games in seconds across all regions and leagues + a new map pool comes out every few months
Dude, I was gonna say maybe it's just me but there are ton of people still playing.
I still play SC2. I played competitively in college (2013) and loved it. I still get on and play as its one of those games I just dumped sooo much time and dedication into.
I still play SC 2 mostly for the Co-op mode as that was my favorite outside of the custom maps.
I just rock custom maps now. Never was good at the normal game. Yet face me in desert strike good luck. I could play and replay the campaign forever.
I still play ladder 1-1 too, even if i dont have more then ~10 hours a week time. There is imho nothing like it, a deep strategy game , in which you can compete against others with matches that dont take longer then 15 minutes on average.
so many mistakes have been said in this video
Warcraft is already real time strategy...
Age of Empires 4 fulfills my RTS needs better than any game before. I'm glad it's around.
I played SC when I was 16-17. We used to play all night with friends in LAN parties.
I play the remaster with my 11 year old nowadays. Other then C&C it is my favourite ever RTS
It's still alive. Albeit in smaller numbers. The modder community keeps the game alive tho. People like GiantGrantGames have ushered a golden era of player generated content for SC2
well major tournaments also still get around 20k spectators, the pro scene is still alive and 1v1 matches can be found in seconds across all regions and leagues
You got me good with the title.
You seem to be one of the people surprised that people still play games older than 3 years.
Blizzard announced that they will no longer actively develop SC2 in 2020, so this video was very timely.
About your opening statement, please do name me another RTS that is superior in anything besides viewership.
The ease of entry, the story, the smooth control and great balance, and the moddability are still unparralleled, let alone surpassed by anything in the genre, at least afaik.
Zerg blood is red btw.
I heard AoE2 is still hugely popular.
Yeah this guy is not very knowledgeable when it comes to this video it seems.
Ok. Not sure what you mean by superior. Mechanics, story and etc is up to the personal preference.
C&C Tiberium Wars/Kane’s Wrath: unique mechanic of combining/modding some units in the field, infantry taking advantage of buildings, engineers being engineers, blue Tiberium says Hi to golden minerals :). We also have Kane!
Age of Empires II: ehm, tower rush?
Homeworld 1,2 Remastered: 3d combat, attack vectors being relevant, formations that actually matter.
Another day another video on the series being dead. The series will likely return, but right now Blizzard cant seem to put out a game without awful FTP elements and this is all during the MS buying ABK. If Ms buy them itll be more likely than ever.
The problem is that all the original devs of SC1 and SC2 have left to form their own companies. There are no experienced RTS devs left at blizzard and finding competent replacements will be difficult due to the relative lack of new games in that genre. It mirrors the "sprites vs 3d models" situation in the industry where there's simply not enough people left with experience in making sprite art for it to be financially viable as an artstyle since you have to redevelop these lost skills and techniques from scratch.
MS have already experienced this problem before. They had great success with Killer instinct 2013 as an Xbox one exclusive, but are unable to develop a sequel due to the lack of new western devs with fighting game experience. That game was spearheaded by the old guard that came together in Double helix/Iron galaxy to resurrect that series, but they have also left for greener pastures.
if it returns bet that it'll be some disgusting money leeching mobile game.
@@cell4224 There's a good chance MS might outsource SC3 or at least hire a team like Relic or Creative Assembly to help work on it. When it comes to RTSs in IPs they own, they've tended to outsource primary development or at least contract co-developers. Most recently, they did this with Relic for AoE4, and despite some launch issues, it's been a really good game.
Fuck I love original StarCrafts design and gritty atmosphere. Truely something irreplaceable.
For real, and the remastered made it even better
i'm still pissed sc : ghost never came out....
Same. I'd check out a novel called Nova, which is a backstory to the game's main character. I still have my copy that I bought probably around 2007 or so.
The SC2 Modding community is stronger than ever. SC is far from dead.
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Activision Blizzard is just trying to avoid releasing StarCraft 3 on the same day as Halflife 3.
I would love a 3rd StarCraft maybe made by a different studio. So many childhood memories of SC1 and college memories of SC2. Thanks for uploading this video!
I never played Starcraft 1, but my best friend during high school got me into Starcraft 2, because I saw him play one time, expressed interest and he wanted to be able to play with someone.
Watching these videos really brings me back to those simpler times. I will always remember that one session we had where I was so sick and had such a sore throat I ended up eating every single banana in the house, just because it made the pain bearable for like 5 minutes. I had never eaten so many bananas before and I have never eaten so many bananas since.
Starcraft, your future might be more than uncertain, but I will always remember you fondly.
Starcraft 1 is like 10000X better than SC2 no joke.
I've played Starcraft 1/Broodwar since i was 8 years old and now with SC 2 since highschool. I was sadden to hear Blizzard's announcement back in 2020 when they decided to stop supporting SC 2 with new updates.. Maybe I can still hope that someday in the future Starcraft may get something special.. 😇
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Demise?
Which rts nowadays is bigger than starcraft 2?
the problem with this question is the presumption that RTS is big in and of itself.
Which is currently bigger? Age of Empires IV.
We could barely be sure, since our info on the amount of Starcraft players daily is vague and our last lead who knew abt it, pretty much died years ago. But according to some people Starcraft 2 is still going strong as an rts.
Starcraft being a staple of gaming and once beloved by all was ruined by a negligent company that has not updated the game in years!
Team Fortress 2 Players: "First time?"
Does a game decline?
Not as long as modders keep it.
SC3 isn't an option - there's no substance to the story, to keep a carry over skill and story.
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The real killer IMO was when Blizzard sued Kespa at the same time League of Legends launched in Korea (2012).
They literally forced them to switch to SC2, so guess what, they swithced to LoL instead.
Not to mention PC Bang is incredibly popular in Korea, and unlike SC1 you had to pay to play SC2 (on top of PC Bang hourly rate). Meanwhile LoL is F2P....
This game is my favorite childhood game of all time, I just turned 27 in October and Starcraft was my favorite game to play after elementary school, I remember playing all those custom games and looking for a key generator along time ago. Fast forward now, I'm practicing and learning how to macro and looking forward to controlling big armies, never knew how important vultures and spider mines. So addicting for a 24 year old game, I so want to get into multiplayer, and it won't stop me from learning!
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If anything Starcraft is a great "improvement practice" simulator. There is always room to grow.
@@alexxx4434 yeah i been invested in it lately, have an idea of what's going on, just need to take notes and remember what's Best and I'll show more room for improvement. Feel like peak age for me to get into StarCraft BW, i don't have the fastest fingers and a Brain of a goldfish but i ain't giving up!
I mean there is already a base idea for a first person shooter, team/class based and centered around building. Natural selection has been out for forever and I loved it back in the day.
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Right now, Activision Blizzard is looking for a buyer and Microsoft is trying to get them. And no one can say what will happen to the franchise after Activision Blizzard got bought up.
Another thing: I don't get how the write concludes that the cancelation of an unannounced first person shooter is the death of the franchise. Canceling prototypes is normal in game dev. And as he mentioned, SC2 came out after StarCraft Ghost was canceled. So canceling an announced third person shooter is fine but canceling an unanounced first person shooter equals death of the franchise? That makes no sense to me.
This video does not do the topic any justice....
Yeah the video creator probably has the fundamental belief that SC won't survive as a pure RTS game, and they need to go to a more popular genre, similar to Warcraft 3 shifted from RTS to MMORPG with WoW (and became super popular).
Starcraft has always been my favorite sci fi setting of all time. I just wish they would expand upon the world in any way, be it another RTS or some kind of spin off. It is downright SHAMEFUL how modern blizzard has all but smoked out one of it’s former big 3 pillars. They hide Starcraft 1 and 2 at the way back end of the Blizzard store and don’t even feature it on Blizzcon banners in favor of WoW spin-offs as if they are actively trying to hide its existence.
In anyways though, it is a blessing and a curse. Starcraft is probably better dying with the dignity it still has rather than get dragged through the mud by NuBlizz
>Suck out all the fun, dark, bleak and harsh atmosphere of the 1st game
>Retcon Zerg into literal Dindus and butcher them and the Protoss
>Make SCII gimmicky and build around balance instead of going into the 1st game's steps and make it so that players would exploit the hell out of each race's capabilities to their fullest
>Create one mediocre campaign with redeeming elements and two horrible ones
>Refuse to do anything new with the series (see the death of StarCraft: Ghost and that multiplayer FPS set in it)
Also in the end people play SCII for the custom maps and co-op commanders which from my P.O.V. should replace skirmish/multiplayer because it gives people variety, new gameplay style and tactical/strategic choices.
This and their other series were ruined by Blizzard changing too fast and ActiVision's corporate greed and stupidity.
Actually based, great description of SC II
SC2 was Blizz last good game then it was straight down hill. Overwatch was surprisingly a hit but was the generic cutting room floor scraps of what was the ambitious project titan. Blizzard is just an empty name now and is for all intent just Activision under a different brand as all of the actual talent and leadership that allowed such masterpieces and level of polish to be created are long gone. Now it's just remasters, remakes and uninspired cash-grabs designed by suits looking at numbers and psychological manipulation research.
What keeps this game alive for me is the great community and content creator/streamers
Diablo 4 and Overwatch 2 -bleh
Starcraft 3 - Yes please!
Although if it became a FPS I would easily abandon it.
a fps starcraft seems cool but like why tho. To me it seems like activision telling blizzard "make it fps", but it shouldn't be especially considering how diablo 4 did incredibly well. Just goes to show that these kinds of games are still wanted in this space.
Starcraft would actually make great movies. But nah lets make a 500th marvel superhero slog
2:40 Huh, no wonder why Protos feel like space elves, Zerg like bio orcs and humans are either noblest of nobles or evilest of evils. Kinda miss the old unique identities that races had back in SC1.
You must construct additional pylons
seems like you wanted to make a video with a catchy title but you don't know much about the topic
I would say that RTS kinda isn't in style right now, but Starcraft is very open for other genres. Survival. fps third person shooter. You could do alot. But Blizzard doesn't seem to want to do anyting with it. Which screams to me either they don't care about it anymore, they have no idea what to do with it on a story level(Then just do spin offs) or they don't have the money and are relying on cash cow games like Diablo Immortal, Overwatch and COD.
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I think it'd be hard to play a 3rd installment; I've always been in it for the campains, fun stories with memorable characters, with great voice acting and legendary cinematics. The direction it took over the last 1&1/2 expansions really left a sour taste in my mouth. Felt like it was written by people who had nothing to do with SC1's story, or just wanted to get it over with. The whiplash from Stukov and Dugaulle looking down on the realities of war to Kerrigan becoming a fiery space goddess with the power of friendship to fight the big bad has big "anime original ending" vibes.
I feel you bro. The sequels (to Brood War) feel like they were written by someone who was in a happy relationship, while the first two games feel like they were written by someone going through a divorce. What I mean is that the first games had grounding and grit to them, whereas the sequels feel flighty and fluffy.
Also, I find it pretty egregious that the plot element that drives the sequels was introduced in a *secret mission* in Brood War. Like did you ever feel that Duran and the hybrids would be the main focus of any sequel back in the day? The impression I got after finishing Brood War was that Kerrigan would be the primary antagonist of the sequel, and not someone Raynor still wanted to save.
@@Ebalosus Honestly Duran and the hybrids being central to the plot actually does kind of make sense, even if Kerrigan was handled poorly. Despite the fact that it was from a secret mission, the stuff he was up to was obviously a big deal and wasn't just going to be relegated to a side story.
@@Ebalosus The problem was that Brood War ends with Kerrigan having completely uncontestable victory. They retconned Mengsk/ the Terrans/ the Protoss etc. in order to make them more powerful so they could fight again. Brood War wrote them into a corner. The purifiers were a cool idea to buff the toss, but written terribly. I wanted so badly for Selendis to assassinate Artanis to become the next protoss leader once he went off the deep end and suggested they sever their nerve cords. The UED could've buffed Terran. But besides those options they were pretty screwed.
@@tehy123 not really, because Starcraft was never about saving the galaxy, let alone the universe; and while I concede that Duran being a Xel’Naga probably didn’t factor in when Metzen wrote the script for _Dark Origin,_ I never would’ve thought that the stakes would be that high.
Would it factor in to a hypothetical Brood War sequel? Sure. Would it be the overarching focus? Hell no! It would be akin to making losers like Cerberus from Mass Effect 1 the overarching focus of the sequ- oh, Bioware actually did that…
@@Ebalosus So what was the campaign VS the Overmind then? Face it, SC1 was focused around fighting an evil alien threat that came out of nowhere and threatened the whole galaxy, no reason why SC2 shouldn't be. Even Brood War was about a big Terran invasion of similar scope.
I dont believe its going to die. i think they just need to decide how to revolutionize it
The loss of Ghost still hurts to this day. I'm glad Nova made it into SC2, and Grey DeLisle's casting was perfect for her, but that only makes me wish she'd actually gotten her own game all the more.
Yall know SC3 would cost ALOT of money to make and may not even be that different than SC2. There is no point to make it yet.
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I think if you're making this video you don't actually know StarCraft in 2022... It's still a beautiful game with a loyal player / fanbase...
im actually glad that they cancelled a starcraft fps. the game would have killed the franchise, while its actually possible we do still get a starcraft 3 or some other kind of rts out of it. a starcraft fps sounds like one of the worst idea's ever. which to be fair blizzard has been having a lot of those lately
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starcraft broodwar will forever be playable, and amazing
It'll still go on for years to come
Broodwar is the best multiplayer game of all time
Well, I don’t know if they went through with it, but if they did, Microsoft buying active lizard (hehe) might have some good things coming to not just StarCraft, but other blizzard games
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3:06 Hey! Alot of Starcraft 2 Odyssey custom campaign cutscenes was featured here!!!! Then here 4:27 and here 4:37 and holy also here 4:49 and also 6:55 AND HOLY HELL THE AMOUNT OF SCENES THAT ODYSSEY GOT SHOWN HERE IS ALOT 8:01 Yall people need to play it, its extremely good, even tho theres no voice actors its still worth to play
no mention of that a bunch of the developers left blizzard to make Stormgate, as they see an open market for innovation in the RTS space?
Starcraft was far better than the other RTS imo.
Demise of Starcraft 2, yes. Brood War? It thrives, tournament scene in South Korea is big. ASL is casted in English by Tasteless and Artosis. It is a great time to be a Brood War fan. Brood War is much larger than SC2 in South Korea now.
StarCraft 1 isn’t dead bruh. 200k live viewers everyday. (Afreeca + Twitch combined)
It’s like saying where is Chess 2? We need another Chess game.
Even the pros said «don’t touch the game, we are afraid you will ruin it»
I just finished playing for the last 2-3hrs
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I'd love a StarCraft Ghost or FPS revival. I'd also love a StarCraft 3 as long as the story is good. I've lost hope on it's multiplayer. It went from creative lobby's in the 90s and experimental gameplay to who can click through a preset formula of moves faster.
Yep, the multiplayer is shit. At least for SC2. SC1 however had a phenomenal multiplayer
More than 10 years in and we are still hearing people crying "DeD gAeM". Starcraft 2 has settled into its niche, there is still an extremely active and healthy E-sports scene, a dedicated community who have been playing and watching the games for decades, and a interest base for modding and custom content. The game is very much community driven now, people in the community make maps which get selected and show cased through the team liquid map contest and TLMC tournaments, and then get incorporated into tournaments and updated into ladder play. There is now even a community leaders balance team who have implemented balance tweaks into the game, and now in my opinion it is in the best state it has ever been in.
It doesn't need to be the most popular game/esport of all time to be thriving and healthy. It has plateaued and found its interest group, and now the game direction has been passed over to the community to keep it fresh with new maps and design tweaks. Its not an apocalypse scenario for Starcraft and the RTS genre will still continue to live on. Some people over obssess about popularity and feel like something is failing because of how it measures up against something else, really a thing can be great as its own stand alone thing without being the most popular thing in the world. Hockey is not as popular as football, does that mean hockey is a dead game and failing as a sport? No, it is still thriving within its interest group and adding value to peoples lives. Starcraft was still an extremely profitable endeavour, it has been the source of many millions of dollars in revenues from different sources, people have built careers around starcraft, tournaments continue to exist with $100,000+ prize pools. Seems like Starcraft is still very much alive and well, all just depends on your perspective. There have always been "the sky is falling" types when it comes to Starcraft from both within and outside the community, but in reality there are very few games as old as Starcraft with the same kind of ongoing interest and support.
About a month ago I went to reinstall sc2 on my pc because when I was a kid I was really bad at it then I saw it was free haha, I would definitely play a third one if they had new units and maybe a forth race (idk how that would work lore wise) I love the genre and star craft always felt like the most flushed out classes in any game and the game still looks really good. They need to fix that general chat tho OMG is that shit wild 24/7 🤣
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Good video but the RTS genre absolutely did not become “oversaturated to the point of disinterest” and MOBAs are not RTS. It was always kind of a niche genre and increased due to various factors, among them the big devs that started the genre like Westwood met fates like being gobbled up and shut down by EA. Or like Blizzard, became a “games as a service” company and sidelined their own franchises to milk subscription schemes. The point is they largely didn’t continue making games and the genre’s struggling popularity over the years has basically always been a lack of new games. Because the genre always lacked attention, there were never really any studios doing current work with living communities, rather it’s all old classics, modding, and the occasional new entry that never gains more than a niche following.
Darktide, StarCraft zergs and zealots.
Space Marines. Lol
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I would play it. Jist aside.
@@rayakoth wow
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The whole E-Sport thing killed it, they made a game for Korean cyber cafés.
It's like anything, go and cater to an extreme and you've dealt your hand; It was the same for the Warcraft base builders and then WOW, that killed that label for me.
It's ok for shortcomings, but not for long term engagement and reputation.
Now we have the opposite with extreme casual gaming and pay2win, let's see how that fares for labels.
Wouldn't Stormgate be an unofficial Starcraft 3?
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On the bright side, Starcraft III could end up like C&C 4.. A game nobody wants to accept it even exists.
"The game's 2010 sequel was met with similar acclaim." I dunno about that. Amazing single player campaign (besides the story) and QoL features for casual players but balance was a mess, lack of LAN angered everyone I knew. The same QoL features reduced the skill gap between competitive players. SC1 pro scene viewers were double SC2's towards the end of Blizzard funding.
Another thing to consider is that Activision-Blizzard does not like competition within their own projects. They killed off "Project Titan", their next-gen MMO in order to avoid internal competition with WoW; they practically fought tooth and nail against WoW-Classic until the Nostalrius project proved it would be popular. Call of Duty is a major title for Activision-Blizzard and from an Activision-Blizzard bean-counter perspective, a Starcraft FPS could cannibalize sales and resources that could otherwise go into another CoD game. Remember, CoD has a several year development period and Activision-Blizzard has multiple teams working on different CoD games so that they can spit one out every year.
Say Call of Duty sells 10 million copies any given year and a Starcraft FPS shows up and now CoD sells 7 or 8 million copies while SC sells 3-4 million. It doesn't matter that they netted more sales, the CoD project lost 20-30% of its market. This means the CoD team needs to get downsized or moved over, resources reallocated etc. This may interrupt their ability to launch titles on a yearly basis. Then investors start questioning the health of CoD, not seeing the bigger picture. I imagine investors see this like a volatile medieval alchemy experiment, converting lead to gold; once you've got a formula that works, you don't mess with it out of fear of blowing yourself up or being unable to recreate the magic.
Maybe if Microsoft now fixes problems that existed in the game design relating balance, the community will revive the game on its own. I would play few games of StarCraft 2 than some FPS game just because is 1v1 and it doesn't require the reflex skill of FPS gamer to be good. Hope this game lives on.
I'm okay with this. I'd rather Starcraft go out with it's integrity intact then to see it beaten like a dead horse and suffer effects of Blizzard's Current Live Service virus.
Bottom line, Activision is greedy. They don't care about quality games or art. They care about money and money only. That's why Blizzard launched two lack luster expansions that destroyed the balance at the price of the first game.
Actually StarCraft would not be the 1st FPS game based on its RTS predecessor. Back in the days there was a FPS game 'Command & Conquer: Renegade' and it was based on its RTS predecessor. 😉
Forget about StarCraft 3. If it’s ever even made it won’t be done by the same people because they all left Blizzard, and the company culture that enabled them to consistently pull off such high quality has been dead and buried for over a decade now. The only thing that remains are the IPs but that is the least important thing. There’s no reason to expect anything great out of Blizzard ever again.
Sadly blizzard with Activision as the captain of the ship has become a greedy company that only focuses on making money. Sadly RTS titles don't generally make as much money, there are no subscription models for the game, no session pass or skins, or things of that nature. That is why Activision doesn't invest in making a new starcraft RTS game.
Ok here me out I've been thinking of this for years. Make a starcraft game that you play like a normal starcraft game, make ur base create troops and so on. But other players can open their game, choose a race and click match making, at that point they will either join a new game or join a current game and play fps or 3rd person shooter of one of the units in game. Unit A.I would still be a thing as well. I'm dying for someone to make this a reality for me it'd be so cool.
Microsoft/ActiBlizz needs to sell the franchise if they aren't going to do anything with it and just let it continue to die slowly. IMO, that's the only thing killing it. We have a company that owns the rights to it and is deliberately killing it. There are plenty of people out there that would pay for new content and plenty of money to be made to that end and I'm sure plenty of smaller companies out there that would be glad to make it.
Blizzard is not the same company or the same people for a while now. They're just an oversized studio that inherited their titles for former developers. I'd even say that the 2 SC2 expansions were already a decline, especially the story lines.
Do I need more starcraft? nah man I'm good, I got my starcraft fix back then and I really don't need anymore or a spin off.
Speak for yourself, I'm down for more.
@@NickyRomano94 I would be down for more if they retconned all of SC2.
I don't want the series to end up like Dawm of War 3, better it be left on a high note.
Blizzard Entertainment literally came up with a winning strategy and then decided to throw it in the trash and go with some other garbage that's not working out. That's like having winning strategies and having multiple Super Bowl rings and then throwing the playbook away and coming up with some new garbage that sucks.
The way Activison Blizzard has fallen, it's probably a good thing they didn't make another star craft game. It would not come close to the first 2 games and it would be monetized to hell.
Starcraft 3 would be great. Starcraft FPS would be great. Even Starcraft MMO would be great. Not gonna happen though.
classic college essay, where the evidence doesn't support your original vision, but you finish it anyway and get an A anyway, because the project was never about accuracy in the first place.
"RTS aren't making money, so we have stopped making them" but you guys stopped making them even after they made you a lot of money!
If the deal goes through with Microsoft they will get a team to make a Starcraft FPS or a game like Starcraft Ghost. I would actually kill the Gears of franchise and start Starcraft with the same team.
Nah Microsoft ceo said StarCraft by name when he was taking about titles he’s excited to work on
starcraft 2 wings of liberty did not have a better main story than ST1 and BW. Started good, bad at middle end became roated milk at the end and a insult as a final cinematic for the lore and characters.
Iv been waiting about 18 years for warcraft 4... 16 years for half life 3... For sure dont hold your breathe
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a new starcraft project is to risky
these cowards in suits would rather play it safe and milk what they currently have then risk there careers trying something new
So, is there a way we can play these games in their former glory now that they're freeware, even if they aren't online compatible?
0:38 no they already did Real Time Strategy with Warcraft. Starcraft is literally Warcraft in space.
I had played Warcraft before Starcraft. It is sad to see such a good game gone to waste.
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the future of this game is much much brighter than the future of this channel let me say.. LMFAO
if Starcraft 3 comes out it might give me a reason to get back into gaming and spend a couple grand on a rig.
Blizzard made their biggest mistake by not making Starcraft into the new Warhammer 40K. Starcraft could have expanded into first person shooter, turn-based, rpg, everything Warhammer is shooting their load at right now. But blizzard could have done it a decade and a half earlier with better results, with a dedicated set of teams to each one of those games, a marketing strategy and budget that puts Games Workshop to shame, and a gigantic overlap in audience . Starcraft and how it was treated is one of the truly gigantic blunders that have ever been made in video gaming history ever, let alone by such a gigantic Studio
To be more clear on my original comment, Starcraft is far more accessible than 40K is. With decade upon decade of intense deep dense lore, 40K is kind of hard to start unless you have a friend in the community who is willing to hold your hand for a while. Or you're a pedantic nerd like I am.
Starcraft lore, by no means shallow, is way more accessible than 40K even if it's not as satisfying in the long run. These two franchises could have played off of each other and made themselves both Millions
There’s this huge rts sized hole in the gaming industry right now, I grew up playing StarCraft, Warcraft, and c&c on my dads work computer. I played StarCraft with my dad before I knew how to fucking read. It sucks to watch my favorite genre just die as gaming became more mainstream.
Beyond All Reason seems to be heading pretty good direction, if you're into Total Annihilation style RTS games.
They need to introduce another race like demons creature of the underworld like in Warhammer 40k
Welp I guess stormgate ran with that idea haha
Why is a new game even needed with Remastered and SC2 existing? Why split the scene again?
I have the original on xbox downloaded right now. So its not just on steam only
Honestly there's only demise because of Blizzard actions.