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Guest bio: Bassem Youssef is an Egyptian-American comedian & satirist, referred to as the Jon Stewart of the Arab World.
Not sure what it has to do with the current situation, complaining how one side lost because the other had a technological advantage. Well no kidding.
to be fair, it was the Arabs that got technological advantage
There is the shipping of Jews from western countries to Palestine he forgot to mention that
Vandals (and other Goths), Arab conquests, Anglo-Saxons, Normans, Zulus...
Did he just rewrite history? Also saying how Australia, America and Israel is unigue in history ignoring the facts how empires and wars function in the past. Look at how the arab empire, now whole middle east and northen afrika are all arabs and mostly muslims. The original arabs where in the Gulf. Everybody else was converted, conqured, slavery, colognized and now they call themselves arabs.
He didn't rewrite history. He told us history.
@@sayan1667 Okay, but he is definitely whitewashing the conquering and subjugation enforced by nearly all other nations historically and paints this as uniquely a sin of the western world. Maybe he's not rewriting history, but he is only acknowledging parts that allow him to craft a somewhat disingenuous interpretation of it.
I honestly can not follow why some comments are censored... All I did was respectfully reply to the comment from Sayan by saying that perhaps he did not overtly lie, but he did only tell selected portions of history to frame empire building as a strictly Western idea/practice rather than something that you can see cross culturally. Basically just politely agreeing with the original post is now subject to censorship? I wish I knew the rules YT was going by these days.
More like His story
@@BuckLax3 I asked them. They have no rules. Their censors are deliberately vague and nonsensical. Your comments will be deleted based on language that isn’t defined, based on the frequency of your comments regardless of the video or thread you reply to. They’ve truly lost their minds
About the numbers he is right, zionist forces were 60,000, arab forces 40,000. The chief of staff of the Jordanian force was actually a british officer!
So technically it was Israel vs Britain + 5 Arab Puppets
Jordan is half Palestinian
Bassem Youssef has been clear that he fully accepts the reality of Israel and it's right to exist.
I wonder what he thinks Israel should have done in response to Oct. 7th. Did he think that Israel should just condemn Hamas and tell them to not do that again.
For real. I'm arab and there is no justification for what hamas did. Both are in the wrong
IRAN does that for Israel.
Iran Condemned. Voud Retaliation, BUT Didn't!
Ronald Reagan did when over 200 Marines were killed in Lebanon.
He didn't go to War.
He Pulled out & Left.
I think Israel should give the Palestinians full voting rights and freedom of movement within the country. Then there would be no reason for Hamas to exist.
@@DEADGAME1805context?
his homeland of egypt completly ethnically cleansed its entire native je wish population ..... close to 100,000 je ws deported after torture and theft.
His homeland of egypt enslaved Jews since the Pyramid time
Mind Begs the Question:
- If policies of Starvation,Death Camps,Pogroms,Gas Chambers/White Phosphorus,Ethnic Cleansing,etc are repeated
- Does not amount to Holocaust?
I think you mean ethnically cleansed of black people.
Based 🗿 Egypt
Nonsense on two points:
1) The Israelis did not have superior force of numbers,
2) The claim about Israel and replacement being unique to Australia, US, and Israel, rather than other empires and wars.
"oh very special and unique. People conquer a land then go back to their own predetermined land which has been there in the same borders, since... whenever."
Completly correct. In 1947-48 Israel was left to the hyenas. The US and Brits led the Western nations in a universal blockade on arms for Israel.
Meanwhile, the British were giving the Arabs weapons, planes, and bombs.
Only through resourcefulness, grit, and determination were the Israelis able to beg, barrow, and steal enough decrepit weapons and equipment for their survival.
@@Mpr47276 were you there lol
Jewish militias, that became the IDF, were armed,trained & supported by the British.
Moshe Dayan spoke about it. This is historical fact.
@@adamp2426 The Arabs also had support from British officers and military.
"From 1936 to 1945, while establishing collaborative security arrangements with the Jewish Agency, the British confiscated 13,200 firearms from Arabs and 521 weapons from Jews."
No. It means the 1967 borders of Gaza and the West Bank. Nothing more. Nothing less.
The Battle of Yad Mordechai was a little over 100 Kibbutz Israelis that held off 4 batallions and 1 regiment of Egyptians for several days, thus delaying the Egyptian advance.
He never mentions the 100,000 Jews thrown forcibly out of Syria Iraq Iran Egypt Libya Tunisia Morocco etc in the 1940s and forced to go to Israel. Convenient lapse of memory
No
I don't know about other countries but i know that you lied about Morocco expulsing any Jews. The Israelis asked repeatedly the King to organise the exodus of moroccan jews to Israel and were met with multiple refusals until he ended up accepting. There were no expulsions liar.
Quite the opposite, the king took a lot of risks during WW2 by refusing the deportation order.
900,000 actually
If we include the time
Period of 1880-1979 it’s well over 1.6 million Jews expelled. The only Muslim nations to not expelled its Jews were Türkiye and Morocco ,
In egypt case. The egyptian jews started spying for isreal which made them a national threat and traitors, mase the dynamic un easy for the country, all becauseof this new found state. They were no longer Egyptians first.
I read that close to 48 british officers fought in the Jordanian Army against Israel.
Ask Palestinians what part of Israel is illegitimate? When they say “all of it.” Thank them for showing us that there is no two state solution with Palestinians.
Which part of Palestine is illegitimate? None of it!
Do you know why?
Cause it doesn't exist
Israel is same as Australia and America....... come on their are jews who are always present on that land
Mr. Youssef does in fact talk about those things. He bought the rights to a written work about the Holocaust several years ago.
Glad to see the people in the comment section are not super pro-Palestine
Mind Begs the Question:
- To defend,support policies of
- Starvation,Death Camps,Gas Chambers/White Phosphorus,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc
- Democratic or Nazi?
Coz Hasbara boys are at work 🙂
Yeah you're right Israel is the problem 🙄
I don't understand why a show of this caliber gives a voice to this guy
The British also confiscated most of the weapons from Palestinians before the war and also detained many Arabs before the fighting started. From 1936 to 1945, while establishing collaborative security arrangements with the Jewish Agency, the British confiscated 13,200 firearms from Arabs and 521 weapons from Jews.
Explain how that happened when Palestinians weren’t invented until 1964.
@@solvingpolitics3172 lies. It's on maps and in the Balfour declaration
They did not. As the matter of fact they gave a bunch to em
@@buakawfan333 Back then most Palestinian Arabs called themselves Arabs. Only Kibbutz Jews called emselves Palestinian, like Golda Meir
@@PumpkinEater-dm1xx "From 1936 to 1945, while establishing collaborative security arrangements with the Jewish Agency, the British confiscated 13,200 firearms from Arabs and 521 weapons from Jews"
What about the Arabs? Did they go back to Arabia?
No, they colonized, slavery, mass conversations, and now they are Arabs. Only the outer reach of the empire do not consider themselves Arabs like Indonesia, Pakistan, maybe Morroco, Iranians just list a few. They still have their own language and culture.
He conveniently forgot to mention that 😂
@@wiizzbang it is not even the topic of discussion, it seems you have no fair and rational argument to place for the atrocities of Israel and now trying to drift elsewhere
Israel was super underpowered in 1948, it only started to become OP in the 70s
Israel had 4 aircraft
Hey Lex, if Jews are colonizers in Judea. What does that make Muslims in Europe😂
Did you read your torah and bible ? They are settlers before they were jews they hebrews like Abraham the first hebrew who was from the city of UR, Mesopotamia which is modern day Iraq not from canaan
Moslems are ethnically cleansing white people from Europe?
Lol
Homie religion should not be a discriminatory tool for land claim. Pre 1948 there were jews. They would have been palestinian jews. An influx of polish or German or American jews coming in and killing and driving out the existing palestinian, forcing their state and concurrent apartheid is not the same as people settling or just immigrating
Where do u see a country in Europe where Muslims where shipped from another part of the world where they were a minority and helped by the world superpowers to establish a country on top of the native people by force and through the use of massacres and ethnic cleansing. And where this is STILL ongoing to this moment.
@@kareemmobarek3897 Abraham was Jewish.
Comedian now a historian
Every time Bassem has a chance to point finger at US he does, calling US a criminal state, yet he fled from his country to find safety in US, how ironical is that?!
Classic
Right off the bat, he comes across as partisan, biased and salty..
This is painful to watch. But I think it illustrates well the challenges Israel has confronted since 1947. How does one reach consensus with someone who begins with the notion “I’m right,” and ends with the same? A better starting question may have been: “should Israel exist?” Because any answer other than yes reduces whatever Bass might say to mere detail.
Israel had 4 aircrafts at the beginning, you are a lier or ignorant that doesn't know Israeli. Israel didn't have modern weapons in 1948
Lex giving this guy airtime like he matters. He's a jokster.
Didn't the arabs have Glub?
Yep.
Here you have him purely lying, Israel had one plane, no real artillery.
Egypt alone had more planes and artillery and trained soldiers.
The Hashemite kingdoms of Jordan was trained by the British and where bigger then the Jewish fighting population.
Egyptian Jon Stewart getting that Qatar money
People got their ass kicked and shit taken get over it
Bro is discovering how war works
Bro is just showing the inconsistencies because we are saying different things about Russia and China. lol
Well, Hamas can use that logic
Dont hurt your heqd over these zionist bots, all they know how to say is hamas and whatever their handlers tell them. Theyre not real humans with souls@@mahamadoudiallo589
@@zandyzain6241go outside
He is very charming but use half facts it won’t stand in a real debate
This guy is so unwilling to find any middle ground or compromise
He will twist anything in his advantage
im so early i love this
What Bassem ignores or minimizes is that 1. Jews have always lived around Palestine and not all were scattered to other parts of the world. 2. Arabs were never nice to Jews that lived in these areas before it became Israel. 3. The Muslim religion is an offshoot of Judaism just like Christianity is. 4. True Jews aren't angel but neither are Arabs and Muslims. 5. Regional Arabs and Palestinians are jealous of the success, freedom, and wealth of Israel. 6. Palestinians voted for Hamas knowing what they would try to do so should not be surprised when Israel retaliates as they knew they would. I could go on but you get the point.
To be fair, Arabs treated Jews pretty nice (or at least better than Europeans) in the MIddle East until 20th century
And that is why the only way the "Palestinian Cause" makes sense, is when it's told by a comedian.
1) 1:33 Israel was not better equipped. Jordan was British led, armed and trained. Egypt also had British weapons, including fighter jets like SpitFires. Meanwhile Israel was armed with Czechoslovak weapons and got weapons embargo by the USA
2) Israel have more troops simply because they have to massively mobilized entire nation, including women to fight ARAB STANDING ARMIES. Similarly, Ukraine had more troops than Russia in 2022, simply because of mobilization
3) 2:39 In case of white people in Australia and America. White people were never existed in that land. Meanwhile Hebrew was spoken 1000 of years before Arabs taken over that land.
4) 3:36 Like h*ll Arab countries did not middle finger to international laws. From 1948 to 1967 to 1973. Always vow to push the Jews into the sea.
5) "The Palestinian people do not exist" - Zuheir Mohsen, leader of PLO in Syria, 1978. If Bassem Yousef want to take a quote of a Jew who discredit Israel, then I would take one that discredit Palestine.
Full quote:
The Palestinian people do not exist. There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are part of one people, the Arab nation. Lo and behold, I have relatives with Palestinian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian citizenship. We are one people. It is only for political reasons that we carefully endorse our Palestinian identity. Indeed, it is of national interest for the Arabs to encourage the existence of the Palestinians in the face of Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity is only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new means to continue the struggle against Israel and for Arab unity. A separate Palestinian entity must stand up for national rights in the remaining occupied territories. The Jordanian government cannot speak for the Palestinians in Israel, Lebanon or Syria. Jordan is a state with certain borders. It cannot lay claim to Haifa or Jaffa, for example, while I am entitled to Haifa, Jaffa, Jerusalem and Beërsheva. Jordan can only speak on behalf of the Jordanians and the Palestinians in Jordan. The Palestinian state would have the right to act on behalf of all Palestinians in the Arab world and elsewhere. Once we have acquired all our rights in all of Palestine, we must not delay for a moment the reunification of Jordan and Palestine.
I swear to god, these people probably don’t care that much about their land. They only care if non-Muslims live there. If the Turks or Persians live in that land, they wouldn’t care
I am more curious about Lex, how doesn't he debunk Bassem on his lies? isn't he need to be smart or something ? I guess degree from MIT doesn't make you so smart.
His job is to be neutral. This is why Lex is famous
Funny how people here know more than a guy who grew up in the region, has a Palestinian wife and extended family in Gaza... Listen to the full clip. Bassem is very sharp (like most comedians) and insightful. Are human rights universal, or do they only apply for friends and friendly nations? Are we learning from history? Can we be better? I remember a guy from Palestine who said "love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."
Just because you have a Pali wife, doesn’t mean you know about 1948 war. Again he created false narrative
Israelites were there long ago before "Palestine" was.. they have been and are still. Get over it or have war.
But they aren't indigenous and they were descendants of settlers who came from Mesopotamia to The land of Canaan. Canaanites were there before any Hebrew became a jew. Modern Palestinians and labenese share over 90% genetic ancestry with ancient canaanites
Arabs losing every war, and still demanding territorial concessions. No, Habibi 🙂
1948. Israel won. Then even after more wars, Israel came to the table to discuss borders. Not usually what victors do, but they gave up the Sinai, and they pulled their settlers out of Gaza. Still, it's never enough because of the refusal to admit the 1948 war is over and Israel won. Adults have to live with the truth at some point.
Are Jews not at least one of the indigenous people of that area? Don’t indigenous people have a right to exist on their ancestral land? At least to coexist with the other indigenous peoples of that land?
I personally don't think we should hold indigeneity above everything else. Certainly the Jews have a greater historical claim to the land than any non-Jewish Palestinians. And Jews have demonstrated they are willing to allow non-Jews to live in their land.
Nah Jerusalem has nothing to do with Jews. Even though they came there millennia prior to the “Palestinians”.
yeah they were 5000 years ago
So tell us what that makes Muslims in Europe
Jews arent indigenous not even the torah or bible will support this claim. Btw to just be factual. Abraham the father of the jews was from Mesopotamia which is modern day Iraq. He migrated from city of ur to the land of the canaan. They were always settlers. Never indigenous
What is he talks about it's quality not quantity that Israeli wins ever war stop your crying yalla
This guy is living in Fantasyland...
Hajo Meyer was also called an anti-Semite. He too was a Holocaust survivor.
This dude is the biggest grifter ever 💀
How do you mean?
@@Letsplay222The comparison to the natives is entirely moot. The natives helped us a dozen times, most of them were gone by disease by the time independence struck. They were fractured into dozens of pieces. The Palestinians were offered peace talks a half dozen times and refused to even do that. They only want one thing.
@@zachdave2994 "They only want one thing" Which is what exactly? To get their land back? All of it?
@@Letsplay222 Only at the cost of millions of lives. They never owned it, so it’s not reclamation.
@@zachdave2994 Then who owned it before 1947?
The place where this guy starts history is convenient for his version of events.
Bassem Youssef, the king of lying by omission.
Great episode! Never mind the Hasbara bots 😂
Said a te**orist bot
You're denying Israel any right to any land, and wondering why there's no peace?
There was a peace. Israelis ruined it....
There was a peace. Israelis ruined it....
Gaslighter. He's denying them the right to come from another continent, forcibly take other people's land
@@Y-JA Doesn't Judaism predate Islam in that region?
@@Y-JA He's claiming that this's what happened, which's the biggest reason for the conflict, you thinking that it's all your land and they're outsiders
Wish you would have asked him to back up a few thousand years and speak to the Jews being in Israel before everyone else. Just like they were in Iran, Iraq, etc… Ask the archeologists what the oldest ruins are in each country… they know who was first.
Self serving view of events. Not all zionists wanted them out, there were multiple strains of Zionism. In addition, they planned for two states, it was the Arab nations that attached them and told the people to leave so they left. It was not the Israelis. But I will throw this story a bone, Israel did take over land brutally during the war, which exacerbated the refugee issue created and started by the Arab nations. The Palestinians were not native to the land, like in the USA. They were highly nomadic and had moved there in the turn of the century until ww2 to work for the British and Egyptians. Not even close to the same.
But none of this matters…. Pragmatism here, two people, land and all need to be able to live and thrive. Bebe and Hamas need to go. There will be no peace with either of these groups of idiots leading the show.
The Palestinians were not native to Palestine? Wow that's quite a whopper. Who lived there prior to the turn of the century then?
@@Letsplay222they are not, you might have to go back more than 100 years...
@@TheNotimprezed So who lived in Palestine in 1899?
@@Letsplay222 your mom you didnt know lol
@@Letsplay222lots of Arabs and lots of Jews but considerably more Arabs at 1899 specifically, depending how far back you’d like to go you would find that flips and flops. By 1914 the second wave of immigrating Jews had began to arrive. Bring at least 30 % of total population to be Jewish. it’s important to remember the geographical area known as Palestine was named Palestine by the Romans in many ways to separate Jews from the land. There has never been a sovereign nation known as Palestine. The Arabs occupying the area (Palestine) began feeding into nationalist rhetoric after the fall of The Ottomans in ww1 actually after the Jews. We call nationalism Zionism. Zionism originated late 1800s. Britain controlled the area as a Mandate after ww1 and until 1948 after they had a Civil war that the Jews won. The Arabs never had more of a claim to the Land than the Jews. The Ottomans allowed fist and second Yashiv (mass immigration) of Jews throughout turn of the century and sold land legally to Jewish Immigrants.
He is a clown 🤡
Great Bassem Youssef, is here, again…1000% correct. Unfortunately.
Yea, no. There is no "misconception". Arabs attacked the Jews out of the blue and tried to murder them all in their sleep.
The fact that the Jews were "more prepared"....who cares? Of COURSE they were more prepared - they just experienced 50+ years of Arabs/Palestinians being the aggressor.
wrong about everything
Bassem is brilliant, has a great way of getting his point across. Good job Lex
This is an ahistorical take.
The premise of Lex's question is flawed. The Je.ws did not conquer Palestine. The British did, with the immense aid of the local Arabs who fought a guerrilla war on their behalf, with the promise of Arab independence. If the Arabs didn't help, the British most likely would have continued getting slaughtered in the Middle East. The British then opened the back door for the J.ews to come in and supported them (along with the United States) with money, weapons and influence.
Jewish immigration In the area predates the mandate but admittedly the mandate period sees much more Jewish immigration. Existence of white papers document in 1939, calling for Arab Majority state and limiting Jewish immigration during Holocaust, and helping Arab Majority try to defeat Jews in 1947 is Hardly Britain supporting the Jews. Truman pressured Britain to allow Jew refugees after Holocaust but I think that’s a little understandable, esp considering the Holocaust and there’s 70 years of Zionism at the time, wealthy influential American Jews funding and calling for it in US domestic. But I wouldn’t say US supported Jews because of weapons embargo in 1947
@@davidjackson4606 "Truman pressured Britain to allow Jew refugees after Holocaust but I think that’s a little understandable, esp considering the Holocaust ..." - I don't. The Palestinians had nothing to do with the Holocaust. If the British or the Americans wanted to give the J.ews their own homeland, they could give away parts of Great Britain or the US. The Turks imposed a gen o zide on the Armenians, therefore should the Armenians be given a piece of China?
Or parts of Germany that did the Holocaust maybe?
@@Letsplay222 Jews go back to Judea. What is wrong with that?
@@Letsplay222 Americans took in over 2 million Jewish refugees during 1930. You can’t equate Palestine with China because Palestine was never a Country. Armenians didn’t have a huge population living in China or any historical claims to the land. Arabs living in Palestine prior to 1900s was very small. Arab immigration into that area increased leading up to ww2 just like Jews did. The notion that Arabs living in Palestine are somehow entitled to the land because Nomads lived there during Ottomans is in my opinion Bogus.
My God, I cannot stand this guy.
Free 🇵🇸 and America from IsraHell
Free Palestine from Earth
@@PumpkinEater-dm1xxadd Israel and you got a deal
Inb4 Israeli bots