Eresus walckenaeri "Velvet Spider" Rehouse and Care
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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2023
- Finally, I'm ready to talk about my Eresus walckenaeri. Love this cute little booger.
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Hey Tom. Thank you for that. There was no need but appreciated. Talking about Instagram most questions I get asked you've covered in one of your excellent vids, especially your beginner ones so I always recommend you.
It was my pleasure, bud! I can't tell you how thankful I was to find your info on them, and for all of your support over the years. Thank YOU!
@@TomsBigSpiders I've been given so much help over the years. If you can give back it's important to do so. And I'd well imagine your videos have helped thousands and will go on to help thousands more.
Your photos and videos are what showed me how cute velvet spiders are; I’d definitely like to keep them some day.
You have great photos and great info, always nice seeing your stuff 👍🏻
@@seansspoods9521 😃😃😃😃😃
I was an arachnophobe a couple years ago until I made a home for a little jumping spider I found during the winter. Now I have three tarantulas and am looking forward to adding more when I go to the PNW expo next month. Thank you for all the great info and terrific videos!
Hi, Hayley! I was an arachnophobe before I got into keeping spiders. :) And that's awesome. Thank you!
My favourite. Grew up with these as a kid living in Corinth, Greece.
Oh, man...that's awesome!
I love my little velvet. My partner hasn't given me the green light on Ts yet, but I got him to agree to velvet spiders. The females get a little larger than he realized, but I think he's gotten over the shock. 😉
Hello! Well, that's a start! A lot of folks move into tarantulas after keeping them. Fingers crossed he opens up to the idea!
Two of my girls will often come out of hiding and watch my movements when I'm walking around in my room! Sometimes as if they're trying to latch onto me from afar at times, like from Arachnophobia or something! In all my experience of keeping true spiders and tarantulas I've never seen a spider do that before. These spiders are smarter than you think!
Yeah, they seem to be super aware of their surroundings! I've had mine follow my hand when I'm working with other spiders' enclosures around it.
Terrific video Tom!! I really appreciate all you do! I found a 2" Grammostola pulchripes in a pet store a few days ago and it was one spider on my wish list! Didn't buy it at first but came home and watched one of your care videos. I did get her a couple days ago! I can't tell you how valuable your videos are!! Thank You!
Thank you so much! And that's fantastic...wow! You're going to love her! Congrats!!!
Cute little spider....very interesting......over a year old and so tiny still.....yes, Billie you have an admirable job, great seeing you work together.....
Hey, ma! Yeah, these take a while to grow up! :)
They are native here in Greece and I have caught small ones in the past to keep. I kept them in large jars with holes opened on the lid, a piece of cork bark for something to hide if they wish, and nothing else. They created their own world by webbing. Don’t be afraid to remove the whole webbing if required, they are very prolific webbers and can rebuild it in a few days. They are amazing hunters that can take down something up to their own size. Maybe I need to look for a new one. Juvenile females are the best, because they will become larger and live longer. Males may be showy, but unless you want to breed them, which is difficult due to timing issues, aren’t worth it.
Hello, Stefano! Thank you so much for chiming in. I love hearing from folks who live in the same area as these animals. And thanks for the tips!
Majority of Male Spiders especially those species who’ve molted at least 3 times(Indicates an age of over a year) will die, if they’re not devoured by the female, they’ll suffer a fatal heart attack. There’s a reason why Sexual Cannibalism among Spiders is such a well known myth.
basin79’s photos and videos are what showed me how cute velvet spiders are; I’d definitely like to keep them some day.
Basin's the man. And they really are. Thank you!
Very sweet!
Thank you, Debra!
These are such cuteness overload!🕷♥️♥️♥️🕷
haha Indeed, Lisa!
Ayeeeee basin I talk to him almost everyday he's a cool dude!
He really is!
I enjoy these little guys between you and Tarantula Kat I keep seeing them. I May just have to give one a try. Great video Tom.
Hey, Nick! Yeah, they are becomming the "it" spider! haha
Great video as always
Thanks so much, Chantal! I hope all is well!
Hey Tom,
You mentioned the magnets taking some legs by snapping down. I've got a few of those enclosures and I've taken to either sliding the lid off and on, or using one of the magnets as a hinge and rotating the lid, instead of lifting the lid off.
I do that often myself, although I've still had them snap shut slinding them back on.
Thank you Tom for your knowledge on the velvet spider as always great video.
Thank you so much, Pepper!!!
Hi Tom & Billie hope you had a great thanksgiving, another brilliant video and such a cute spider, they definitely look like a fun species to have 🫶
We sure did, thank you! And thanks so much!
Thanks…nice work Tom and Billie
Thank you so much!
I’m SOLD !! 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
So I got a female jumping spider big enough to eat small crickets a few weeks ago.
Now she is in a very webbed hammock it’s been 7 days. She was really fat when she went in.
How nerve racking 😳
I know it’s a molt, but so small with no food or drinking.
Hey, Candy! haha That's awesome! These guys really are as cute as they are cool. Yeah, they can spend quite a while in premolt. My female jumpers did that as well! haha Good luck with the molt!
Ah brilliant Tom, very informative and enjoyable as always, brilliant spiders 🕷 Tom, I've contemplated getting one of these velvet spiders 🕷 but never did, however after watching this video Tom, i might one next year, hope you and yours Tom had a wonderful thanksgiving.
Thank you so much, George! Let me know if you try one out!
wow what a lil beauty!
Thanks, Lisa!
cool little spiders!
Thank you, Dee!
These spiders are such sweethearts! Definitely on my list of spiders to get (it’d be easier to have a list of what isn’t in my list). Thanks for the info on rehousing and care for them!
Hahaha I totally get that! And thank YOU for commenting!
Enjoyed the video Tom and Billie thankyou; greetings from the UK, more specifically Manchester 😊
Hello from Connecticut, USA, Gary! And thank you!
I had the honor of seeing this species in the wild while vacationing on the island of Kos in 2022. A small Greek island off the Turkish west coast. I already knew that this species lived there and had made it my goal before the vacation to find this spider. In a remote, high and rocky region I found what I was looking for under a stone. A large female with a cocoon! It was the only animal I could find in two weeks of searching. I left her and her cocoon in her place, but I took lots of photos and videos.
In addition, I was able to find some large wolf spiders of the Hogna genus.
That is so cool! And it's great that you appreciated them back then. :)
Hello great video information Tom
Thanks so much, Moon! I hope all is well!
Cute little spiders .I have been keeping a common garden orb weaver since my wife found it in the garden . It's been really good laid an egg sack after a week and it's very entertaining.
Awwwww...that's awesome! We have orbweavers all over our porch, and I love watching them.
it's actually just died unfortunately. It was very lively one day and dead the next . I'm not sure how long they actually live and whether they live through the winter .
Hahahhaha so small so cute 😅😮spider lovely ❤❤❤❤❤😅😅
Mr Moran ur gonna love this one haha the male orphnaecus.philippinus has finally matured so will be attempting pairing of the female in a month or so if she has a good sack and the babies live definitely would love to be able to give u some them if ud be interested its a no strings attached I don't want nor do I expect anything for them it would be a gift and simple promise that ya take care of em n enjoy em
Congrats! Fingers crossed that your pairing is successful! I paired mine a few years back and have two females form the sac. I do appreciate the offer, though!!!
They are so cuddly looking, which is so comical to say about a spider, lol. Them and jumping spiders are definitely poster children for adorable spiders
hahaha They really are!
Hey Tom, nice video as always. They are cute little things. I have some velvet spiders, but not Eresus, I have a couple of Gandanameno sp. raised, and yes, they grow so slow. But they awesome. My biggest girl is around 1,5 inch and eats a lot. I keep them bone dry as well and they get hydration only through food. I feed the slings, like all my tiny ones, with young Thermobia domestica, and the adult ones with wax moth larvae. Inside the enclosure I have dry moss and small branches, no soil or something, and they web a lot. They even react to movement infront of the enclosure and they can see much better than most spiders we keep, but not as good as jumping spiders. By the way, I also have young ones as a communal setup, to raise them up, it works. They are realy cool.
Stay save Tom and have a wonderful week!
Greetings Chris 🤘
Hey, Chris! So sorry for the late reply; I got behnd on comments. The bone dry thing freaked me out at first, but mine has done quite well with it. And I was just chatting with someone else about how aware they are of things going on around them! I noticed that a couple times when I was working with spiders around mine. So cool. And I had no idea about the communal aspect. That's fantastic! As always, thanks so much for your thoughtful comments! Hope all is well!
I currently have 3 velvet spiders - 1 sling and 2 juvies. I had another that matured out male. I absolutely LOVE them! They are the easiest spiders to care for, and are insanely adorable (cuter than jumpers IMO). 🖤🖤🖤
Hey, Becca! They really are the easiest! :)
We got the Species Eresus cinnabareus in Germany but they are very rare and under protection by law. Eresus' have one of the most cutest faces of the spiderworld😍
Hey, Mike! That's awesome! Are the populations suffering there? And they really do!
Ooo I had no idea you had eresus! Very exciting
I kept it under wraps until it got bigger. haha
Wahhhhhh I've been waiting for this video for so long that I've trial and errored myself into a bit of an Erasus expert myself lol. They are such a pain to figure out from scratch so it's great that this video can help lost souls like me! _ Mausami Rai
Hey, Mausami! Yeah, I was SO freaked out to keep this one dry. haha I hope all is well!
Holy crap I haven't watched Basin in a long time! I'm definitely going to now, though!
I have such mad respect for those that raise tiny true spiders or T's. I only pick up .5's or bigger, unless it's a spider that I really want, ha. It's always such an anxiety phase and inconvenience (feels harsh to say but😅) having one or a handful of microscopic babies.
Tom only doing husbandry videos on spiders that he's actually raised is one of the many reasons why I come here looking for info first!🖤🕷
Hey, Zulema! Well, get back there and show the guy some love! haha He's awesome, and he's always been incredibly supportive of what I do. And tiny spiders STILL freak me out, so believe me, I get it. haha I hope all is well with you! And sorry for the late reply; I got behind on comments. UGH
Hey Tom great video and what a cute spider.i want to get some true spiders in my collection because there are some great species out there.
It took me a long while to even consider keeping true spiders and mygalamorphs, and now I love them. Let me know if you pick any up, James! :)
I want one because they are adorable however I can’t see spending money on 1. Something I’ll never see because they hide 2. They don’t live long 3. I would want more.
I can totally appreciate that. They ARE cute, and you will see them out a bit as they get older, so that's enough for me. That said, for the money, you could get a tarantula that lives for decades! :)
Hey Tom! Awesome video as always! I'm not a fan of these or jumping spiders just for the simple reason that the people who keep them tend to be overwhelmingly obnoxious and anthropomorphise to the point of actually putting the animal in danger, then attempt to carry these habits over to tarantulas (excessive handling, inappropriate enclosures, overfeeding, and so, SO many "my cutie is digging today! Has anyone else seen this?? OMG! My little darling is just SO QUIRKY!" posts where the writer doesn't seem to recognise that, shockingly, spiders are spiders.) Not trying to be an elitist, and I'm sure there are some good ones out there, but the influx of both jumping spider and velvet spider keepers on TikTok and on the Facebook groups has become EXTREMELY exhausting and honestly turned me off from keeping these completely. Anthropomorphisation is somewhat more understandable with jumping spiders as a few studies have shown they do have a higher level of intelligence than we originally thought, and they are such visual animals who rely heavily on eyesight, plus those big eyes really are adorable, but carrying these behaviours and beliefs over to tarantulas can be extremely detrimental both to the care of the spiders and how we are perceived as a hobby. It makes us look insane, not like well-read, articulate, and educated individuals who, while we love and respect our tarantulas, recognise their limitations as emotional creatures. Furthermore, many jumping spiders can thrive in pre-made enclosures featuring little witch houses with hard acrylic or resin sculptures that look like cute little dioramas, however, many of these enclosures are not only inappropriate for tarantulas, they are flat-out dangerous, and, as I said before, people who come into tarantulas after having kept jumpers or velvet spiders don't understand that and will attempt to put their new and much larger pets in similar enclosures. I can't tell you how many Facebook posts I've seen with little fish tank sculptures in tarantula enclosures that are wildly inappropriate should the tarantula climb and fall, which is significantly more of a risk for tarantulas than it is the aforementioned species. That said, I'm glad you're keeping them so I can appreciate their beauty without having to associate myself with the stereotype of jumping spider/velvet spider keepers.
The hobby has become such a toxic cesspool that encourages people to COMPLETELY rely on others rather than learning through experience or research and penalises criticism, constructive or otherwise, to the point where newbie keepers who are struggling rarely actually receive useful advice. Sometimes you have to tell someone "yeah, you kinda messed up here, maybe try this next time" and many Facebook groups don't even allow that, so the new keeper walks away having learned nothing and goes on to make the same mistakes because the only allowed posts are "oh you did everything right! Sorry for your loss :(" which really helps nobody. I have zero issue with people who have DONE their research reaching out to more experienced keepers for confirmation (for example, I obsessively research and have for years, but Tom Patterson and Kelly Swift have never once ignored me when I reach out and ask for advice on something when I hit a dead end), but people who come in having done absolutely zero research and expect everything to be hand-fed to them have become a persistent frustration. I understand that researching involves critical thinking skills that not everyone has, and not to be harsh, but if researching isn't something you're willing or able to do in ANY capacity, then maybe find a hobby that doesn't heavily rely on research, and one that doesn't involve living animals. I know I'm coming off as a jerk here but I hope that you and I have had enough positive interactions over the years that you can understand that this is coming from a place of frustration and trying to address a serious ongoing issue we have in the hobby rather than bashing people for the sake of it.
In other news, I did successfully pair my E. uatuman! It was really a surreal and magical experience. I attempted pairing 3 times since we last communicated, the first time, the male sat in a stress pose for an hour almost to the minute and then wandered into her den. She promptly chased him out but he made a smooth recovery and after about 40 minutes of tapping, he was able to get insertion. The second time was a flop, he didn't move for over 2 hours and I had other things to do so I wrapped it up. The third time, he went right over to her den, disappeared in it for about 2 hours, and I found him outside the enclosure in the bin I put both enclosures in. After he disappeared down the burrow there really wasn't much I could do so I left them together and periodically checked in. He's still alive and well and eating and he obviously wasn't eaten by her so I feel pretty good about it. Fingers crossed the pairing took! Hope you and your family had a great Thanksgiving, hope to hear from you soon!
- Charlotte
I just ordered one very affordable as part of the fearnottarantula 12 days of Christmas sale (along with 6 T"s)! I've picked two others up at an expo this month. I think I'm gonna name them all after Santas Reindeer 🎅 🦌
Ha! What a great idea for the names1
Thanks fir the video! I'm glad to see you making some videos on true spiders. There aren't too many.
Do you know of the best way to find Teganaria Domestica spiders in nature? I never see them for sale, never.
Thanks for watching! I would assume looking in sheds, barns, stacks of wood, etc.
@TomsBigSpiders Alright, thanks for the tip. I live in a urban yet historic area renovating large old houses. I come across a wide range of true spiders but not many T.Domesticas. The weekends I go to the country so I'll use your advice thanks!
Good video, and solid advice which matches my own experience with them for whatever that's worth. Very easy to care for. I picked up two slings earlier this year, at about the same size as the sling you showed here, and one has grown significantly faster than the other. Because of this, I'm assuming one is likely male, the other female but I'm not sure whether to assume the one that got bigger faster is female (as those are bigger as adults), or male because of the faster growth rate...*shrug*, time will tell I guess.
Thank you so much...and it's worth a lot! I love when folks chime in. And I hope that you get a lady !
This is the easiest spider to take care of in the whole world lol They do grow slow, but worth it!
That's what I was just telling someone! haha
Hi Tom, hope you’re doing well and had a great Thanksgiving.
Ohh my gosh, aren’t they so cute! Tiny wee things, I couldn’t manage them, I’ve got poor dexterity and I’d end up doing something dangerous to them! 🤦♀️
You can see why they get called ladybird spiders, with the small spots on their abdomen.
Well done to Billie with her stunning closeups 📷
Take care and enjoy the rest of your weekend 😊😊
We sure did! I hope that you did too! And I can totally understand that. They just start off so tiny... Thank you so much, and sorry for the late reply!
@@TomsBigSpiders Better late than never 😀😀
We don’t celebrate Thanksgiving here, I’m from Northern Ireland. I have to wait till Christmas to get my Turkey with all the trimmings 🤪🤪
Great video showcasing an awesome species! I was curious if you've ever dealt with these guys getting stuck in a molt? My E. walckenaeri sling has been half stuck for at least a week now and I've been thinking about helping it out a bit with a wet q tip but I'm worried about harming it because of this species' strong preference for bone dry conditions. Plus it's about 1/8 inch and I don't want to squish it lol. If you have any advice or ideas, I'd love to hear em!😅
Thanks so much, Mckenzie! I have not, thankfully. What part is stuck? I would assume that exposing it to a bit of moisture for a short period of time while you got the molt off wouldn't be a terrible thing as long as it went back to dry conditions. You may try a moistened cotton swab, and obviously, you'll want to be super careful if you do. Good luck!
It's that lil face they have that it's so cute everyone wants one but I've been told that when u hreed them when the babies hatch the mom starts to liquefy her body so the babies can eat now wether that's true or not I don't know but couple people have told me this would definitely be interesting to know wether or not thats true
Hey, Eric! I heard that as well and have been told that it is not true. That would sure be cool, though. haha
Lol this was the size of my pumpkin patch i have only had her about a month now maybe not even but i finally got her first molt i absolutely cant even believe i spotted it tbh i only did see it bec i was looking to pull out any remains of whatever prekilled orey i had put in last and it almost looked like a shell of a baby dubia and nope it was her (I'm praying its a her) but she shed and it was the tiniest lil thing ive ever seen
Yeah, they start off super tiny, but at least they grow fairly fast!
I wish they weren’t so expensive, definitely something I’m interested in getting at some point
I agree, Kevin. They are so expensive.
Awesome video as always!! It’s great to learn more about the non-tarantulas care. I’ve wanted to get into these guys and jumping spiders specifically for a while now, but their super tiny size as slings kinda makes me nervous haha. I’ve done fine with tiny Ts though so I’m like “I’m sure I’ll do just fine.” But they’re s m a l l and they’re not tarantulas so it’s a little intimidating.
Do you have any tips on how to handle fruit flies? I hate dealing with them cuz they always seem to start getting all over the place whenever I try feeding them off. I tend to just use tiny nymph red runners, but I like having the option to use them if I’m low on nymph red runners. They’re just so much of a pain that I tend to give up and just use roaches haha
I do! Get a glass cup and some aluminum foil. Tap some fruitflies out into the glass, cover the top with the foil, and put them in the freezer for a couple minutes. You'll know when to take them out when they stop moving. Then, just sprinkle them into the enclosures while they are cold and inactive. Hope that helps!
Hiya, hope y’all had a good thanksgiving 😊
Soooo I had one of these beauties and was keeping it with a little moisture, it was doing great. As I watched more vids on them the consensus was keep them dry, so i changed my husbandry. Guess what?? It died same as 3 out of 4 of my jumpers. The 4th surviving jumper I went back to adding some moisture and she lived for 1 1/2 years.
Leave it to me to have the odd and unusual happen.
Hey, Darcy! Oh no! I've heard from several folks that they do fine dry (and mine has) but maybe there are exceptions? And I always misted my jumpers to give them somethng to drink. Hmmm. haha
@@TomsBigSpiders yeah I don’t know lol, my jumpers had small water dishes and I misted but the sub was dry until I lost 3 within days of one another. Then I began to dampen the sub and my last female jumper did great 🤷♀️
They are adorable. She is adorable. When do you see the orange on the abdomen? How long til you know if it is male or female? This is a lady spider. No orange. Right? She is too small for me to keep. My hands shake and she would have her world rocked with me. But I have room for her. I may just think about this. How are the bites? So this is good for the desert. Where do I get these?
Hey, Joyce! Isn't she cute? Supposedly, IF it's a male, I will see some orange on the next molt. The bites would be very mild overall, and yes, it would be great for the desert! Fear Not Tarantulas currently has them in stock. :)
@@TomsBigSpiders Hmmm...
@@TomsBigSpiders90% of all Male and Female Spiders are Super Duper Easy to distinguish. Males are long legged and have pedipalps that look like Boxing Gloves, while females are generally BBWs. Remember, if a Spider is Big Boned and BBW, it’s a Girl. The Velvet is a Female.
Hey, Plawson! Unfortunatlely, males only get the emboli at the end of their pedepalps when they have had their ultimate molt and matured. This spider is not yet mature, so it wouldn't have those yet. As for this species, the males will also get the color on the abdomen while the females will not. Supposedly, that might be after the next molt. Thanks!
@@plawson8577
Ive had 4 of these, never managed to get a female at all, all males, still stunning but annoying, agree, totally bone dry, i use to literally just put everything from the smaller enclosure into the next size up, they just enlarge their bit theyre in. Great video Tom, hope you and billie are well 👍🏻
Oh, man! I hope that mine is a lady now (although the boys are quite pretty!). And thank so much for the tips! Thanks again!
@@TomsBigSpiders fingers crossed you do end up with a female mate 🤞🏻
Hey everyone, I have a quick question about my T. Vagans. I have a T. Vagans who is 3/4 inch and has a nice burrow going right now, she (unsexed, I just say she out of habit) has only eaten once in my care and didn't throw the bolus out of her burrow, what can I feed her that would be best so I don't have to worry about digging her out because of mold issues from her keeping her boli? She's only eaten once so far in my care (I just got her a week and a half ago) will she start throwing them out if they start getting moldy or what is the best bet? I know everyone isn't digging out their fossorials every week so there must be something I'm missing. From what I've read on the forums most people say they'll toss them out if it bothers them so I wanted you guys' opinions (hopefully Tom will see my question too) and if that's true then is there anything I can feed her that will be least likely to cause issues?
Hey, Irish! Are you positive that she didn't throw it out? At that size, they can blend in with the dirt quite well. Most spiders are very clean and will toss out dead prey or remains unless something is wrong. I've only ever had to dig one up because a cricket got wedge in a spot, died, and rotted. It also shouldn't depend on the prey whether or not they toss something out. I would just keep an eye on it, just in case.
This is the same care I've used for two of our previous velvets, but they died anyway. We have a 3rd one and now I see our care was correct, I'm so worried, because I have no idea what went wrong two times before.
I'm so sorry to hear that. A couple folks shared similar issues. I wonder if some can just be more finicky?
@@TomsBigSpiders I'm not sure. I got all 3 from different shoppes. But as weird as it sounds, I wonder if elevation or climate has anything to do with it? I've kept them in either area of the house, with and without a dehumidifier, same result. I'm really out of ideas on what it could be, but we're pretty sad over the losses. We have bunches of tarantulas, but the velvets just haven't been sticking around for us.
Hi tom how are you doing today I am doing good I saw a bald eagles fighting in the sky at a park in Illinois
Hey, Mitchell! Wow, that's insane!
If you got this almost 2 years ago, this next molt should tell you what sex it is! It’s wild when you look in there and you see a bright red bum! My E. Walckenaeri molted out male just short of 2 yrs of age.
Also, none of my males survived more than 6 months, post ultimate molt. One is in my profile pic 😊 I did pair one, but she molted out.
Thanks so much for chiming in! Fingers crossed the next molt doesn't give me the red. haha Although, I'll be happy with whatever I get. :)
@@discospidersMale Spiders tend to be have super short lifespans. Even Male Jumpers don’t live more than a year.
@plawson8577 I breed tarantulas, jumpers and true spiders, I know this. 👍😁
What do you feed this one?
This one used to get fruit flies, but he/she is now up to little roach babies.
@@TomsBigSpiders Where does one buy roach offspring?
Tom I've emailed you & did the contact thing on your website and never got a reply....
Hey, Fallon! When did you send it? What name was it under? I can do a search for it!
Hi Tom! Do you have an email address or way to private message you? I’ve got a pest control question that maybe you and Billie could help with. Thanks!! *Also I just listened to the podcast and really enjoyed it! I remember being so concerned when my G. pulchripes was clinging to the sides like an arboreal! Once I let it dry out in there though, I had one happy little buddy in a lovely burrow
Sure! Send me an email at tomsbigspiders@outlook.com . Put PEST CONTROL in the subject. I will ask Billie. And thank you!