I Made Hearthstone Player Rarran Rate The Heart of the Huntress Cards
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- @Rarran tries to guess how good the new Heart of the Huntress cards are from the latest Legends of Runeterra expansion.
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The sump is a region of Zaun where the air is particularly toxic (i think)
wow how fitting for the sump monument
I never actually realized 'Sump' isn't a word in English. Its Danish for 'swamp' and I just mentally replaced it as some really filthy drenched place in zaun. Like the sewers
So basically the sewers.
Nah, I'm pretty sure it's the bottom of the pit Zaun is in. Which probably makes that true as well.
@@Jacobstx Sump is a word in English. It means 'a pit, well, or the like in which water or other liquids gather'. In machinery it's the part of the machine where fluids are gathered prior to being recirculated or in which waste is gathered before being disposed of. So it'd be the lowest level of Zaun in which all the waste/water from the upper levels flows into before being disposed of. So, yeah, like the sewers.
17:20 the Sump is the lowest part of Zaun, filled with poisonous Gas. It's the place where the poorest live. Slums basically
Sunny: "spells being denied by all seeing oracle is exactly 0"
*flashbacks to 3 mana warmother's call*
Flashback to my nidalee deck that runs only 2 fast or slow spells
I know the Sump in question is a lore thing, but it's also a real word, which means this is yet another example of Rarran becoming semi-literate when trying to read a card lol
he probably went to public school in the USA.
@@LichKingg23he's Canadian bro what are you on about
When do we get to the series where you guys play against each other tho?!
Maybe switching between games or something so the playing field is even, maybe something like snap as a tie breaker
We had plans but different regions and we don't have enough resources on the others game :(
@@Snnuy It would be cool if riot could hook him up with an LPP account so he could get access to all the cards for free. I always wanted to see what decks Rarran could come up with in LoR
What if you ask LadyPickle to let him play on her account so you can match against each other? :v
@@LoliShepherdaccount sharing is against Riots terms and conditions, you can maybe do it in private, but making an official stream/video about it can get you in trouble as a big creator in LoR.
The Sump is basically Zaun's Zaun.
I know it sounds stupid but just like how the rich stay in Piltover instead of Zaun, the rich/powerful zaunites stay in the upper levels while the poor suffer in the Sump.
Because it's lower than most levels, the air is basically as toxic as it can be down there to the point that non-natives almost can't breathe without gas-masks. It's basically shorthand for Zaun's bad part of the hood. A Zaunite will stab you for money. Anyone from the Sump will do it for fun.
For Rarrans reference, you could say that Sump Monument if it was in HS, would be like “Whenever your hero takes damage on your opponents turn, instead shuffle a bomb into your deck”
(Bomb is a cast when drawn spell that deals 5 damage to your hero)
Would be terrible to get 15 damage instead of 3 from arcane missiles 😅
yeah but itd still be broken, ice block is played everywhere just for 1 extra turn of survival. This could be plenty turns
@@filipkrsek8754 But it would be delayed, thats the whole point of the design
It is always so cool to see the design differences between lor and hearthstone as both games evolve. Especially during these card reviews
The biggest problem with the Sac Scholar right now is that the 2 mana slot is currently already really well represented in the Fated archetype because the unit slot in those decks are at a premium because you mainly want to run spells in those decks so the majority of those spots are filled with units that can target allies like the Brightsteel Protector to progress your Pantheon, grow your board and make your Saga Seeker bigger or units that are generating targeted spells, primarily the Lunari Cultist and the Mountain Goat or the Cosmic Youngling which really helps against Fated's primary weakness of rushdown and also synergizes really well with buffs. Fated doesn't really need an engine in the 2 mana slot because if a Fated deck hasn't won by turn 8 (2 or 3 turns after their Pantheon drops) when they usually run out of steam an extra copy or 2 of Pale Cascades, Gems or Guiding Touch isn't going to save you at this point. Pretty much there's just better targets to buff because they drop earlier (Saga Seeker) or have extra effects (Wounded Whiteflame and Fury to grow even faster, , Akshan with Quick Attack and the Hoard, Cosmic Youngling because a 1/4 that's healing itself and your Nexus can generate insane value, Winged Messenger with Elusive and Sparkefly with Elusive and Lifesteal) wind up being more efficient because these decks usually want to focus on 2 or 3 other units to threaten board but the star of the show is Pantheon. If there was ever a slower, more value orientated Fated deck that maybe played towards Kayle that wasn't relying on Pantheon blowing the game out of the water on turn 5 Sac Scholar would probably see more play but right now he's just not needed in a deck that lives fast and dies young.
TL;DR: The 2 mana slot in Fated decks are already really well represented and their issue right now is their overreliance on 2 or 3 wincons that are decently answered by meta decks in the game and the issue is not running out of gas. If Fated ever slowed down or moved away from Pantheon Sac Scholar would probably be more desirable but right now he's solving a problem that Fated doesn't need solved.
Will this be on the test, tomorrow?
No ones reading allat
@@CornRaked damn you're right, if only I put a summary at the end of it to summarize the important points without the details.
@@Evan-mt7bc yeah no one is reading an mla formted tldr
@@CornRakedwhat an annoying human being
6:43 Yes Rarran. Ionia had always been a headache to runeterra.
Interesting note that Rarran defended scholar but completely forgot hearthstone had a card printed ages ago that effectively did the same thing in paladin, the class that at the time offered most offensive buffs through spells to its units and it never saw play. I wonder if it was because of its lack of play (and there being hundreds of other cards).
Rarran immediately noticed Husks are from Evelynn 🤔
Best Collab, bringin HS and LoR community together
The All Seeing Oracle would be good vs certain match ups that have some big spells they want to play, but also you could just use a Deny. It has the potential for the opponent to not want to play a spell assuming it will be countered. It's still a good card regardless if it's seeing any play, but you have counter spell options, so there really isn't alot of need for it.
Even HS players heard the legend of the Siren Song :0
The druid spell was embiggen, which gave minions in your deck +2/+2 but increased their costs by 1 to a maximum of 10.
I play sacrificial scholar in Shyvana Pantheon. It's not meta defining by any means, but I am mostly aiming to use it to get extra copies of single combat, fish fight, and form up.
Actually Single Combat is an amazing use for it, you just the card back if it dies.
Yeah, I use him in riven decks to get more shards and even the broken blade back
I honestly think that the majority of the time, cards don't see play simply because players aren't interested in experimenting with them.
@@SuperLotus Maybe too many people just like to copy decks or things that are "meta" and don't do alot of self construction.
"Everywhere" is so subtly strong that if the card game you know doesn't have it, it really isn't clear how strong it is. If Siren song was only board, deck and hand, it would be fine at 4 mana, which is crazy since "everywhere" made it one of the most broken cards ever printed.
This is just an addendum, but "everywhere", even though not a keyword, does exist in Hearthstone in a few ways, an example being the "wherever it is/they are" text given to some cards
MtG also has a very similar concept in the form of emblems, playerbound changes that affect the remainder of the game.
Also it's crazy that Siren song is 4c to give 1 cost units +1/1, while spirits unleashed has an arguably stronger up front effect and gives *all* units +1/1, for just 1 more mana, yet it was never really good. Part of that being that freljord is the most boring meh tier region and part of that being that being cheaper is always better even if it makes the effect worse.
yesterday, my opponent play sump monument, he uses with targon region. I deal a lot of damage and he has a lot of puffcaps in his deck. and then suddenly he uses starlit epiphany to replace his deck with behold the infinite and all his puffcaps are gone and I be like 0 - 0. not to mention he do it again.
Sacrificial Scholar is essentially Runeteras Test Subject, if you recall that card. A 1 cost 0/2 with Deathrattle 'add all spells played on this to your hand'.
If i recall, it wasnt the best in Heathstone
test subject was so OP they had to ban and then massively nerf it
@@jacobcoleman4046 That was due to an 'unintended' infinite loop involving mind sear, in wild, 5 years after its release.
Outside of that it only really saw play in niche and convoluted OTK Strategies, which doesn't really imply 'good card'. If that were the case, Stonetusk Boar would be a far more 'OP Card', since it sees far more play both in and out of OTK Strategies
Did try it, oracles issue is that due to spell mana it often comes out after what you want to stop, it telegraphs the deny to the opponent, and if you draw it while digging for an answer it does nothing from hand where other denies do.
A sump is a low space that collects often undesirable liquids such as water or chemicals. A sump can also be an infiltration basin used to manage surface runoff water and recharge underground aquifers.
"I played All-Seeing-Oracle at 3 A.M. It was scary"
Snuuy you actually went to the Sump when playing Convergence! it is the lowest part of Zoan, where all the toxins are located. In Arcane it is also shown, in the old VI & Jinx house which got destroyed, where everyone was intoxicated.
LESGOOOOOO!!!
Love the energy you guys have together
Something about All seeing Oracle, is that it's in the same region as Nopify and Deny, both more versatile and cheaper stop spells
Sump Monument reninds me of the good ole days playing Phyrexian Unilfe in Ad Nauseum decks for MTG
Rarran always seems so nervous giving his predictions, even though big runeterra players get these wrong all the time. Today it seems like he did significantly better than them. On the mageseeker card I think he was even more correct than sunny was in response.
Sump monument is just death's dance from League.
A 'sump' is a basin where water pools and stagnates, kind of a local minima where it can't actually drain away. If you've got a depression in your yard or whatnot that always floods when it rains and gets real muddy and nasty for a few days, that's a sump.
Expansion launch I played an ASol Age of Dragons deck into an All-Seeing Oracle deck, and it was miserable lol
Rarran is having issues identifying the closest thing we have to Ice Block in Runeterra as either good or bad.
24:27 i don't know anything from LoR or LoL so i heard silas and thought "wtf that's not a gnome"
30:00 Primalfin Champion saw next to no play, even in Quest Paladin who can use the extra buff cards. This card does get +1/+1 for every spell but Primalfin is also a very old card.
The only real experimentation that I saw with Sacrificial Scholar was in Go Hard decks, where it saw some play, but I assume they dropped it, because the opportunity-cost of playing Targon was to high. If this was in SI, it would probably see play tho.
30:40 we have almost the same card in hearthstone called “primalfin champion” and it was as good as rarran remembered it existence.
The problem with All-seeing Oracle seeing play is that it is in the region it would be most beneficial for it to play against. Now if it was in a region like Frejlord or Bilgewater, then it may be played since those regions have next to nothing against spells. Ionia is already a region that plays many spells and has multiple answers for spells.
this is what I was thinking too. what value does all seeing oracle put into your deck when you can just put deny instead, which uses spell mana as well. maybe if deny gets rotated out I can see it getting play.
@Rarran casually forgetting that Primalfin Champion existed, and was a better version of Sacrificial Scholar... It gave you all the spells back.
I think rarran misunderstood the sacrificial scholar...it doesn't create 3 copies of the spell you played...it creates the same amount of spells(upto 3) played on him...if it had the former effect it would have been good...
I had thought about ah Ahri Recall deck with Oracle to try and deny as many spells as possible
17:05 Sump is another word for sewer.
A sump is basically a drain that doesn't drain anywhere. If Zaun has a place called the Sump, it means all the rain and chemical effluent runs to the lowest point in the city and just sits there.
I love this type of videos! and rarran is such a fun guy
I would love to see you guys play arena or duels, do some drafts / decks together,. Duels is shit show, but it's so fun to watch.
Sacrificial Scholar should be good in Pantheons decks, cause you need to be using spells each round to get his level up condition, and this lets you waste some of those spells even if it's not the best time to play them, and you get them back. Card generation/ recycling is value and value is good. That value can be used later on more important units. This card exist solely to help Pantheon level and to still have a hand by the time you get there.
Well it decent that all since Pan nerf are quite hard.
I got to masters thanks to that card
Teemo /sump/ corina / condense combos are some of the most cancer things to go against. dude i was against had 150 puffs in his deck, but he played burst spells to get puffs into my deck (i had challenger ready for his teemo and already spell killed one), played the teemo to level 2 and instantly attacked, used corina to trigger 8 puffs, did it against because condense is so fucking stupid, and then i died to next round draw. he did my entire nexus in a single turn and i couldnt kill him because of sump, how is this allowed
4:40 Yeah Spitefull Druid! Spitefull Summoner 😂
The best ever lor collab
Sacrificial Scholar is actually kinda fun in Weapon decks. Not good, but fun. A lot of weapon decks can run out of gas because of how many cards you have to play, but if you just get three of them back in a turn or two, you wind up with more options. It's just tough to accept that you have to maximize your value with him early because it doesn't feel like part of any specific game plan.
Wait so with the all seeing oracle you can chose an enemy deny and counter it 😂😂
Carvings of divination is scary against aatrox level up spell unless you grind to lessen the cost but if you’re developing it’s a good way to turn you down that’s for sure
Now I want to see sunny rating the new Titan in hearthstone
as an ionian player, yes, new cards basically dont exist to me until I accidently find one
I tried playing sacrificial scholar, the main problem was i always wanted to protect my other units (especially champs). My opponent would try to avoid blocking/ killing it as well
Must be nice not having your Age of Dragons or Warmothers Call stopped by an All Seeing Oracle xD
the sump is basically the sewers in zaun
Sacrificial scholar seems a lot like test subject to me. Targon priest would be a just vile combo deck.
Sump monument is not only frustrating cause the amount of turns it lets it's caster live, but also how, by reducing the initial dmg to 0, it denies so many abilities that would otherwise safe the opponent.
I have lost so many games cause i couldn't heal from lifesteal or the nexus strike abilities wont trigger. It sucks so much playing against sump
Sorry but the gun clicking noise, I wasn’t looking at the screen and I thought snnuy brought out a Glock and I thought
“God damn, the hate for Ionia is real”
Sacrificial Scholar + 3 spells is about 7/8 mana, so when it dies you get 3 cards back but you lost 8 mana in doing so if you didnt get mega value from it
By the way for Fated you don't have to target unit with spell. Any targeting will do.
A sump is like a part of plumbing that collects filthy water or chemicals, and they just sit there and accumulate, so the people who live in the Sump in Zaun have industrial waste and pollutants collecting around there
Sump Monument should be massively nerfed if not completely banned if that's even a thing in the game. It is one of the most toxic cards in the game. Don't forget that Corina Condense combo exists, Puff caps can kill really fast. Landmark removal does exist in the game, but don't forget this game has no sideboarding, so landmark removal is mostly dead against most matchups and thus not many decks will run it.
for the last card, its like test subject, there will be time that targon will have infinit combo
All-seeing Oracle nowadays is a very solid card
you two are great together. Like peanut butter and jelly.
People thought in trying to print Go Hard and Glimpse with Sacrificial Scholar,but I didn't see how it went(I guess it is funny but it sucks in a real game)
Ooooo Rarran at the end misunderstood the Sacrificial Scholar. They thought it meant that if you played 1 spell on the scholar you would get three copies of it back, not just the one copy you played on it. They were overvaluing it as a way to duplicate one spell instead of simply returning equal to what you cast on it.
Sacrificial Scholar is almost exactly the same card as Primalfin Champion from hearthstone
Oracle saw a ton of play in Sett/Karma, no?
Idk if it's happened yet but there should be an episode of if hearthstone had spell mana
I find sacrificial scholar pretty nuts tbh. I played it in my fiora decks and in my pantheon decks. Reached masters with both decks. Fiora pre eternal and pantheon on standard. I do think people really dont get it.
21:00 nope Solid Alibi instead got buffed by going to 3 mana from 2 so you get a bigger elemental off your Keyboard.
I seen the card all seing oracle in the Shen jarvan deck
5 months later and not a single card that was claimed as "giga nuts" here sees ANY play today.
nerfs are a thing
i am well aware of that. i just think that its crazy how much the general impression of these cards changes so quickly. i mean e.g. a 1 mana bump changes A LOT, but just not THAT much that it goes from "giga nuts" to never seeing it being played. depending on the card and context in the deck of course, but the sump landmark is a good example for this.
Sacrifical scholar did see play in hearthstone it was called test subject and a boar would otk you and it was very oppressive if the player knew how to play it
Love these videos!
Sorry I know this is random but I couldn't find a way to message you, awhile back you mentioned on Twitter if people wanted to get started trying to do content with LoR to reach out to you so I'm trying to do that now haha
I think that all seeing oracle would see more play if more decks actually had a big spell you'd want to counter. I play it in my sett/Jacl deck and i rolled a dragon deck thanks to stopping their stun
Someone stopped my aatroxs champion spell and that was the only time I have seen it work but it has to be an extremely specific situation
Guess u can get more of that noxus card that deals 3 to ally and nexus/enemy
I am unbelievably disappointed he said swindlers den reminded him of aluneth and not gadetzan auctioner the card that actually has a similar effect
Dont play LoR but in hearthstone a parrallel to Sacrificial Scholar is Unstable Experiment.
1 mana (0/2) Deathrattle: Get a copy of every spell played on this minion (or something like that)
One thing to not that this card was almost exclusively used in combo decks to duplocate spells as when duplicating the Experiment, the clone still stored the spells as well.
Just using it as a way to get extra vakues from buffs never happened.
Of course with spell mana and the fact Scholar has better stats there are differences, but I think that if scholar could be duped to set up a combo, it would see play as that, but as pure value it probably will not.
I'm not sure Rarran really grasps what "everywhere" means in Runeterra. In Hearthstone it affects hand/deck/board, but not future summons/discovered cards.
I think sunny explained it in one of their previous video
7:01 Maybe you recorded this before your "Ultimate Warmother's Call Combo" video, but in one game you got denied 2 big spells by the All Seeing Oracle. If you recorded this afterwards you either have a really bad memory or you're a LIAR XD
i know he recorded this quite a while ago, so it was probably before
Yeah I ran into some delays but this was recorded quite a while before that even
@@Snnuy Though so. It was still funny, since those oracles gave you such a tough time XD
Sacrifical scholar doesnt see play because targon doesnt see play
Love when he said its bungus time
The sunman and the stoneman
What if this, but with Keyforge cards?
Honestly my experience with watching these is that people from older card games usually do really well guessing for younger card games. Those guys over yonder playing Magic are looking down on us like mere children with an understanding of CCGs that we can but dream of.
no lols
Rarran for sure thought sacrificial scholar gave you three copies of the first spell played on this, not copies of the first three spells you play on it. That’s why he thought it was so good and kept mentioning how it’s an easy way to just get extra copies of a card.
Ionia being cringe as the reason why All Seeing oracle is not being played is gold
I played all-seeing oracle in karma sett, it was exactly fine but not super exciting
I think Rarrans was misreading Scholar. He seemed to think it would give 3 copies of the first spell you played on it. Instead of a single copy of each of the first three spells played on Scholar. Don't know if that would have changed his answer.
Has this guy even made a prediction?
Sacrafical Scholar?
I hardly know her
"I dont read cards" Oh we know, we saw you play YuGiOh...
Sunny kinda messed up with All Seeing Oracle IMO because I think a lot of the reason it's not seeing play is many of Ionia's best tools have been rotated or nerfed so the decks thay are still running Ionia are doing so for very specific reasons and can't fit this card (seraphine)
If Ahri had a good deck then this card actually synergizes with what a recall deck is trying to do much better. It's still not a 3 of because 5 mana(total) deny just can't be
27:33 I dont know what it is about this "Let's go" but this might be the saddest oe maybe the happiest "Let's go" I have ever heard. Everytime I hear it I just laugh. Am I broken or is it really that funny? lol
There's a card just like the scholar in hearthstone, it's a murloc and it's in paladin,.and it saw hardly any play.
I dont play LoR, just here to see how much Rarran fail