Can I say, I really appreciate Ignideus using Hearthstone terminology. Even though Shadowverse uses Storm, Last Words and Ward, he consistently said Charge, Deathrattle and Taunt, knowing Rarran's viewerbase was Hearthstone. This man just earned a subscriber, very entertaining to watch!
I mean his set reviews are incredible imo as he has multiple people involved doing them so you get a lot more info and ideas of what cards are likely to be used. I feel set reviews with multiple creators is such a great idea.
Igni is a great guy. Really fun videos to watch. Though sadly he's one of the very few actual Shadowverse youtubers that use a face cam and mic. There are a lot of Shadowverse creators but they seem to mostly just stream on Twitch and don't have RUclips channels.
I've honestly quit HS for it when the last Shadowverse expansion came out. Having an absolute blast with the game right now. There are a lot of very good decks out there that are pretty budget too which does not happen very often.
I remember trying it out a year or two ago, but it was kind of overwhelming for me compared to Hearthstone at the time... but it does seem pretty fun judging by this video
@@blushingralseiuwu2222 uhhh nope....sure with the eternal format...some of the things is imbalanced but currently in standard format aka rotation in sv......it is fair
Fun fact : wielder of cosmos is actually a tech card used to counter ultimate bahamut deck because wielder of cosmos evolve effect is keep cloning 10 cosmos into your deck so you wont get decked out by ultimate bahamut effect
Used to play Shadowverse now I might go back and give it another shot. From what I remember it was really free to play friendly as well. Thanks for the content Rarran you've hit a home run with this series
@@Grabagool I think the game worth playing, there no oppressive deck in ladder like Sekka forest or evo shadow last expansion, over all I enjoy the game a lot compare to hearthstone
@@Grabagool Idk before but crafting a meta deck isn't very hard. They give you free packs after creating a new account. You get a lot of resources from login rewards, daily missions, story mode, etc. You also get a free "temporary deck." It expires at the start of the next expansion but it helps you in crafting a deck. Currently in Rotation, there's a very cheap deck called Handless Blood that revolves around discarding cards and invoking the card shown in this video. So yeah, crafting a deck isn't very hard.
@@Grabagool I'm full F2P and have all tier 1 and 2 decks plus around 20k in gold for the next expansion so as long as you do all your daily activities you are more than ready to go.
please do more of these! I love shadowverse and what made this video so fun was how similar hearthstone was but yet so incredibly different so it was really interesting to see how you would apply hearthstone knowledge into shadowverse
Holy based! I was wondering when and if this was gonna happen. I was thinking about asking Igni too if he was gonna be a feature for this series. Glad to see it worked out!
I never thought I'd see you do a video with Ignideus. I used to play a lot of Shadowverse. So cool to see you bringing different tcg communities together.
While it's not true, ramp very rarely has a board up for that effect to matter so it's understandable that he didn't even realise it hits allies as well
@@saalehmajiet9499 Only time that occurs is if you play that 9pp card that spawns a 5/5 dragon with charge every turn. Of course, or if you invocate at both player 10pp.
17:35 As a former Shadowverse player, when I saw this card, I was like "ahahahah turn 8 right". For reference, I played a lot of Dimension Shift and Enstatued Seraph decks.
I love this format! One suggestion i have tho: Especially for cards that are super reliant on the combo pieces it would be great if you would add like 3 cards of that deck to look at and get a better idea if such deck could be viable or not with these support cards. I see you saying if this card had support it would be good. That way you could see some support and take a better guess if it would be good or not. For example if you ask other player to rate hearthstone cards and show sire denathrius you could maybe show cards like Scale of Onyxia, etc. as cards that would fit the card. Or if you show some discard mechanic show cards like silverware golem, etc. to give an idea of cards that have a similar synergy. Similar for when you rate yugioh cards. When you get shown a card that heavily leans into the banish or graveyard mechanic it would be cool to show you a few cards with graveyard synergy so you can get a feeling what that type might be like
Would love to see another one of those, but aimed at unlimited or older meta. There's so many iconic cards in the game, being broken or unplayable, lol
i actually might try shadowverse just because that ultimate bahamut card seems really fun to me - and having previously played hearthstone and currently sitting in masters in lor, i dont think its gonna take long to learn ^^
I played this game for a while. I still don't understand it too well but it had the keyword "rush" way before hearthstone and I kinda always associate that with this game... oh and the absolute sheer insanity of being destroyed by a card that literally cannot die or be removed in their equivalent of Priest... or really the sheer insanity of losing in any number of different ways, all the while being very distracted by the *ahem* goods on the Runecraft girl... Btw, Rarran, as a side note, the other card games I used to play were Elder Scrolls Legends and Eternal, the latter of which still has a relatively active community. There's also talk of the resurrection of Duelyst which one of your former guests, Mogwai used to play quite avidly.
@@KaelanSwan that was the one!! And yeah I think I played around then. The good thing about thee game then was that they gave you tons of packs for free though! Despite that, never got a heavenly aegis haha
I've played a lot of Shadowverse before switching to Hearthstone, so that video was a blast! I hope we'll see Igni try to guess how good recent Hearthstone cards are!
Jerry would be broken in MtG in low-power formats, reason being, you can delete your lands at will to thin your deck and only draw meaningful stuff. The continuous effect seems very good for grinding the opponent down with consistently better value later too. I wonder if something like this will be possible in Shadowverse at some point, but it looks like the game is too aggressive for ir to work there.
I love that you did this. I think many people are turned off by the art and the walls of text, but it's pretty fun when you get used to it. For pretty much a straight mobile port, this game also has a very good history bar, replay system and whatnot. Anyway, great content. As multiple people pointed out, at 27:00 wrong art, but it's all good otherwise.
People are turned off by the arts ? Damn. Must be the best arts I've seen in any TCG. And considering you get double dose with the evolve arts, even better.
I've never even heard of this game and cards seem really interesting. Can you give an honest opinion on how monetization is? I'd love to try it, but I don't want to waste hundreds of hours or pay hundreds of dollars to be competitive.
@@MortyrSC2 I don't know how it is now, but when I played, it was very generous with gold and packs, definitely miles better than Hearthstone. It might have changed in the last few years though, i haven't kept up
@@MortyrSC2 A very popular opinion in the community is that this game is f2p. Crafting your first deck isn't very hard and it gives you the resources you need as long as you play. They give you 50 packs after completing the tutorial and a free "temporary deck." Yes, temporary decks expire on the next set. You get your resources from login rewards, completing the story, missions, playing other formats, and events. That's all I can say.
man i hope we get another ep for this, especially for someone that just started HS and has been playing SV for the last 2 and a half years and the meta has changed drastically since this vid
Yo this was super fun :D I haven't played too much Shadowverse but I actually did pretty decent at this one (at least compared to other episodes). Shoutout to Ignideus! This was a great episode and he was a fantastic guest.
> I can't imagine how long it takes to spend 50 mana Even without accelerate recovering points 50 mana is just 10 turns of playing on curve and 5 additional mana. With the essentially tradeable legendary consuming 5 mana every time it's traded it's gotta be able to invoke on turn 9 or even earlier.
I've started playing Shadowverse recently and even the tutorial cards are something else. For example, the Nature Necromancer one: This deck revolves completely around a tree that costs 1 mana to cast, and when it dies, you can draw a card. But then if you play another tree, the previous tree dies. But then there's a Witch that everytime the tree dies, you can summon a 2/1 undead pet that can attack immediately enemy followers, but not the enemy hero in that turn. Also if the pet dies, you get to draw one tree. And also there's a cute doggy that gets stats everytime a tree dies. So the whole deck is about getting a bunch of these trees and then get on the field the witch or the dog, spam trees, wipe out the enemy board with the undead pets while buffing the dog and eventually win that turn or next turn. Also a lot of cards in that deck allow you to get either a free tree or a card that can summon a tree for free. But this is also an UNDEAD deck, so, everytime a creature (including undead pets and trees) dies, you gain a shadow, and you can use these shadows to do extra stuff, like, there's a card that if you have more shadows than cards in your deck, you get to summon that card for free from your deck, and do a bunch of stuff. It's really much more entertaining than Heartstone, in my opinion
You're talking about Natura Shadow, and btw, these are not exactly the "tutorial cards", these are actual meta decks that you can use in story more for free. Well, "meta" as in, they used to be meta and rotated out, and too slow for Unlimited(wild format).
I wish one day he would invite Moonfassa and do such a video with Faeria cards, because the mechanics are so similar to Hearthstone but yet sooo different.
I loved this video. I loved that we got an hour of power, I was interested in shadowverse so this helped me think about some things, and Ignidious was SUPER fun to listen to and clear with getting his point across. Thanks for the video Rarran
I love how I know nothing of either game and can not only follow along for the most part but understand most points made. The card game community is wild and awesome
.. Idk how the state of the game is right now, but they do a decent job nerfing cards within Max 2 weeks if they're massively op (or were when I played)
Idk if Ignideus teaches or coaches in any capacity but I really appreciate how clear and concise he is with his explanations, especially with accommodating for a Hearthstone audience.
1 of my Biggest complaints with Shadowverse is that (at least when I played) is that their Arena Mode only lasted for 5 games before you got rewards. It kind of sucks that you could draft the most fun deck ever, go 5-0 and then be forced to stop.
These cards were super interesting to compare to other TCG’s! Especially that last card, Bahamut. I also saw it as a card to counter control decks, but thinking about the effect more, it actually WANTS to be played by control decks. Even if the effect let your opponent PICK the five cards… it still wouldn’t be enough cards for your opponent to ever catch up.
The funny thing is, in Bahamut vs Bahamut mirror match, the game boils down to whoever can invoke Ultimate Bahamut first, since banishing random cards from your opponents deck potentially banish their Bahamuts too.
Would to see this done again but with cards from all sets ever printed. Shadowverse has always had some very interesting and honestly broken cards. So seeing some from the past/wild sets would be really fun :)
this is essentially a really interesting information gathering game, using your early results to shape the mental model of the game as you go. The juno fusion card ranking meant that drawing or generating cards is trivial. The bad 20 dmg otk card means that games likely end before 8, and there aren't many ways to get cheap spells.
44:40 wielder of cosmos is almost always put in resonance portal. This card is just an auto-win against bahamut (a mill deck) decks since their only win condition is you having no cards in your deck but since it just puts cards in your deck it's a hard counter.
I totally love it when you guess cards in different games. It would be so cool if there would be such video about Gwent or Horus heresy: legions! These games have some really interesting and unique mechanics, different from hearthstone.
I have been looking forward to this video ever since rarran started this series. I follow both of you and absolutely love both games equally so the amount of jay I saw when this video came up so incredible
Awesome stuff. I really liked how, even if you still continue to be HS-main content maker, you really became a bridge between communities. So yeah, keep it up, you doing great stuff! :) One thing - to me card picks for this video was a little... Well, dodgy, because ~90% of them was hard to evaluate in vacuum, they are too reliable on how archetype is playable in general. So this is a little nit-pick, but, again, still an awesome video.
It would be cool for Hearthstone to have Banish effect to have some sort of counter for op deathrattle in the future. Remember Reno hero card? It battlecry said it magically disappear *poof*. That the only banish in hearthstone. 50:12 ok this card might be sound so non interactive. But remember the cosmos card before, it evolve effect Banish 10 card in your deck and put 10 clone of itself into the deck. It doesn't necessarily need 10 cards, to put the clone to the deck. So when your deck have banished by Bahamut you can evo that to refill your deck. There is other card that refill your deck to counter this (Like Kazakusan for hearthstone example.) Ignideus cards line up that he pick is really great
Rarran stating he has difficulties saying some card names correctly in various card names. As a Magic player, I present to you: Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar. She is the author of the Underworld Cookbook. Both (herself and the book) are cards in Magic, the Gathering.
Weeeww I've been waiting for a vid like this~ I play SV daily (migrated from HS a few years back; didn't care for the game after Brode left, but I still find videos about HS entertaining) and I actually sub to Ignideus lol So this video was amazing to watch~
43:00 so its a card that changes your deck to the card it draws (maybe) so u can chain them (maybe) and draw more its a lot of stuff and looks cool for hearthstone (fatigue has well) and its just really cool and good (in hearthstone)
I used to play Shadowverse years ago so I _thought_ I'd understand both games for once... but then he brought up the "evolve" stuff and I was immediately lost, lol; I'd _completely_ forgotten that mechanic
As someone who also plays magic these keywords are confusing. Ward and storm are both keywords in magic but they mean completely different things in shadowverse.
To be fair, Shadowverse had Ward LONG before MtG did (it's been in the game since release, which was in 2016, whereas MtG only got in it Strixhaven), though the reverse can be said for Storm.
What I liked in Shadowverse when I played it a while ago is the fact that the devs have no shame when it comes to printing crazy cards. It's a balancing philosophy that is less about only nerfing overpowered stuff and more about giving batshit insane tools to everyone in large amount and on a regular basis, which make many strategies fun yet viable for casual players. However, the game can be kinda overwhelming for newcomers, especially if you're coming from Hearthstone.
Rarran, you need to do one of these on Pvz Heroes. It is incredibly fun and unique. The game is no longer getting updated, but it has so much variety in cards that its irrelevant. It is one of my personal favorites, and I would love to see you evaluate the strength of the cards.
One thing I don't like about these is when people choose cards like Masterful Musician. That card is *clearly* just an add-on bolsterer for the Glittering Gold package, it has no identity of its own, and just serves to make that package a bit stronger. So there's no way to evaluate it in a vacuum and it's essentially a coin toss.
Well to support my main girl ladica, the new set makes her very playable. Theres a card called carbuncle that reduces all cards in your hand and deck by one that also recovers 3 pp. Otk on turn 7, which is the cost of carbuncle, is very possible. Also, forest craft makes it so easy to last till turn 7.
Can I say, I really appreciate Ignideus using Hearthstone terminology. Even though Shadowverse uses Storm, Last Words and Ward, he consistently said Charge, Deathrattle and Taunt, knowing Rarran's viewerbase was Hearthstone. This man just earned a subscriber, very entertaining to watch!
I don't even play SV any more, but I'm still subbed to him cuz he's a cool dude (swear I'm not an Igni alt)
I mean his set reviews are incredible imo as he has multiple people involved doing them so you get a lot more info and ideas of what cards are likely to be used. I feel set reviews with multiple creators is such a great idea.
He was a HS player when starting TCGs, so it makes sense he can flex between them seamlessly, king shit tbh
Thanks for having me on! This was so much fun!!
Great explanations.
Great explanation give a lot of information in easy way to understand thank you 😊❤
Super interesting content for a hs player and an ex YuGiOh one, super personality either. Keep it up
Part 2 when?😂
Again please.
Please have this guy over more. Great chemistry on today's episode
Igni is a great guy. Really fun videos to watch. Though sadly he's one of the very few actual Shadowverse youtubers that use a face cam and mic. There are a lot of Shadowverse creators but they seem to mostly just stream on Twitch and don't have RUclips channels.
I wanna see him play against Rarran.
I ship it.
Shadow verse low key is a very complex and fun card game, wish more people gave it a shot
I've honestly quit HS for it when the last Shadowverse expansion came out. Having an absolute blast with the game right now. There are a lot of very good decks out there that are pretty budget too which does not happen very often.
I remember trying it out a year or two ago, but it was kind of overwhelming for me compared to Hearthstone at the time... but it does seem pretty fun judging by this video
I just think of Shadowverse as a more quick, rigid and kinda unbalanced Hearthstone.
Shadowverse feels like Hearthstone as made by a Yugioh player
@@blushingralseiuwu2222 uhhh nope....sure with the eternal format...some of the things is imbalanced but currently in standard format aka rotation in sv......it is fair
Shadowverse is the last thing I expected from you, but it was a pleasant one. 52 minutes of godly content! I need to get back into this game.
Fun fact : wielder of cosmos is actually a tech card used to counter ultimate bahamut deck because wielder of cosmos evolve effect is keep cloning 10 cosmos into your deck so you wont get decked out by ultimate bahamut effect
I mean true, but it is not just that
what a chad move
@@kindlesstraitor5587 The last card shown, the one that burns your opponents deck until it's 5 cards.
@@cfv7461 It's quite funny that the Bahamut player tends to always get RNG Gecha'ed and worned down and lose.
infinite gachapon
Never heard of this game but the dude came with amazing energy! Would love to see him back for another episode!
yo ive never played shadowverse but this guy is just really likeable, definitely have him on more often!
Igni is great. Highly encourage watching his videos if you wanna get into Shadowverse.
He is a nice dude and does great shadowerse set reviews, sadly my beloved puppets and artifacts were not even mentioned :(
can't wait for Shadowverse Player Tries to Guess How Good Hearthstone Cards Are
@@IAOIceland1984 artifacts and puppets are better to be looked at as a package instead of in a vacuum so it's understandable
@@arsd.711 you could use the exact same justification to exclude the card that used glittering gold
Used to play Shadowverse now I might go back and give it another shot. From what I remember it was really free to play friendly as well. Thanks for the content Rarran you've hit a home run with this series
Woah, this video is HUGE! You’ve outdone yourself, Rarran!
What a great video and such a cool dude to have as a guest, what a pleasure it was! Didn't feel like 52mins at all
As a former HS player and now a shadowverse player, to me this feel like a dream come true seeing me two fav content creator of 2 games in same video
Is shadowverse worth coming back to now? I played a little bit at the start but idk if it'll be worth it if I need to pay a bunch to make an ok deck
@@Grabagool I think the game worth playing, there no oppressive deck in ladder like Sekka forest or evo shadow last expansion, over all I enjoy the game a lot compare to hearthstone
@@Grabagool
Idk before but crafting a meta deck isn't very hard. They give you free packs after creating a new account. You get a lot of resources from login rewards, daily missions, story mode, etc. You also get a free "temporary deck." It expires at the start of the next expansion but it helps you in crafting a deck. Currently in Rotation, there's a very cheap deck called Handless Blood that revolves around discarding cards and invoking the card shown in this video. So yeah, crafting a deck isn't very hard.
@@Grabagool I'm full F2P and have all tier 1 and 2 decks plus around 20k in gold for the next expansion so as long as you do all your daily activities you are more than ready to go.
please do more of these! I love shadowverse and what made this video so fun was how similar hearthstone was but yet so incredibly different so it was really interesting to see how you would apply hearthstone knowledge into shadowverse
Holy based! I was wondering when and if this was gonna happen. I was thinking about asking Igni too if he was gonna be a feature for this series. Glad to see it worked out!
Loved this video so much, seeing Igni and Rarran play off each other was super fun~
I never thought I'd see you do a video with Ignideus. I used to play a lot of Shadowverse. So cool to see you bringing different tcg communities together.
23:00 Igni gives wrong info here, since Infiniflame Dragon destroys all followers with
While it's not true, ramp very rarely has a board up for that effect to matter so it's understandable that he didn't even realise it hits allies as well
@@saalehmajiet9499 Only time that occurs is if you play that 9pp card that spawns a 5/5 dragon with charge every turn. Of course, or if you invocate at both player 10pp.
17:35 As a former Shadowverse player, when I saw this card, I was like "ahahahah turn 8 right". For reference, I played a lot of Dimension Shift and Enstatued Seraph decks.
Right now we are at the point of turn 5 d shift.
Actually this card can be played as 0 cost in turn 6 or even turn 5 in the unlimited mode.
Ignideus is hella cool. Bring him back for another episode!
Ignideus guess how good Hearthstone cards are?
"You're lucky I didn't pick one of the more unpronounceable cards"
Ah yes, I love my boy Iceschillendrig
Gotta love Iceschillendrig.
I just love that two of the Titans have really weird names... and then Vincent lol
Still midway through the video but if you haven't seen the Three Sisters, you absolutely should. More Shadowverse content, I'd 100% be down for it!
I'm very happy you are covering Shadowverse. This is accutualy my favorite game and i wish more people talked about it
Always love these. Looking forwards to some more "is this Magic card good" in the future. Maybe Saffron Olive would be interesting in coming on.
Thank you very much, Rarran and Igni, for this cool collab, hopefully you will let Igni evaluate HS cards in the future.
That would be a lot of fun, Igni hasn't played HS for a long time.
I love this format!
One suggestion i have tho:
Especially for cards that are super reliant on the combo pieces it would be great if you would add like 3 cards of that deck to look at and get a better idea if such deck could be viable or not with these support cards.
I see you saying if this card had support it would be good. That way you could see some support and take a better guess if it would be good or not.
For example if you ask other player to rate hearthstone cards and show sire denathrius you could maybe show cards like Scale of Onyxia, etc. as cards that would fit the card.
Or if you show some discard mechanic show cards like silverware golem, etc. to give an idea of cards that have a similar synergy.
Similar for when you rate yugioh cards. When you get shown a card that heavily leans into the banish or graveyard mechanic it would be cool to show you a few cards with graveyard synergy so you can get a feeling what that type might be like
You finally did it great one! Really liked the Video keep those ones up. Would be great to see a 2nd one about Shadowverse.
Oi they get a 0 heal card spell, they aren't jealous at all
Would love to see another one of those, but aimed at unlimited or older meta.
There's so many iconic cards in the game, being broken or unplayable, lol
Yeah, something like Goblin is hilarious. Literally just a vanilla 1 pp 1/2, but was consistently run in so many competitive decks
i actually might try shadowverse just because that ultimate bahamut card seems really fun to me - and having previously played hearthstone and currently sitting in masters in lor, i dont think its gonna take long to learn ^^
the 2 games has so much similarities that it's usually a lot faster to pick up between the 2 compared to HS or SV to something else.
That one is pretty much maokai level of bs in term of LoR. Too bad that deep suck in LoR
@@dieptrieu6564 i mean maokai mill hasnt been meta ever, so i wouldnt call it bs
@@EinManU Bs as in the effect being uniquely powerful, not that it's OP or broken
I played this game for a while. I still don't understand it too well but it had the keyword "rush" way before hearthstone and I kinda always associate that with this game... oh and the absolute sheer insanity of being destroyed by a card that literally cannot die or be removed in their equivalent of Priest... or really the sheer insanity of losing in any number of different ways, all the while being very distracted by the *ahem* goods on the Runecraft girl...
Btw, Rarran, as a side note, the other card games I used to play were Elder Scrolls Legends and Eternal, the latter of which still has a relatively active community. There's also talk of the resurrection of Duelyst which one of your former guests, Mogwai used to play quite avidly.
Heavenly Aegis, 8/8 for 9 cost, 10/10 on evo.
Ignore everything.
He was a god back 6 years ago.
@@KaelanSwan that was the one!! And yeah I think I played around then.
The good thing about thee game then was that they gave you tons of packs for free though! Despite that, never got a heavenly aegis haha
@@KaelanSwan we now have that kinda thing attached to a 6/6 and a 10/10 that do other stuff
I've played a lot of Shadowverse before switching to Hearthstone, so that video was a blast!
I hope we'll see Igni try to guess how good recent Hearthstone cards are!
I love ignideus' face when rarran is describing why he thinks paracelise isn't good 🤣 it's nice when you already know what will be the outcome
Jerry would be broken in MtG in low-power formats, reason being, you can delete your lands at will to thin your deck and only draw meaningful stuff. The continuous effect seems very good for grinding the opponent down with consistently better value later too. I wonder if something like this will be possible in Shadowverse at some point, but it looks like the game is too aggressive for ir to work there.
The only thing I remember about when I played shadowverse is Albert screaming at me "Ikuzo"
I love that you did this. I think many people are turned off by the art and the walls of text, but it's pretty fun when you get used to it. For pretty much a straight mobile port, this game also has a very good history bar, replay system and whatnot.
Anyway, great content. As multiple people pointed out, at 27:00 wrong art, but it's all good otherwise.
People are turned off by the arts ? Damn. Must be the best arts I've seen in any TCG. And considering you get double dose with the evolve arts, even better.
@@Niitroxyde The art style is not for everyone. And sometimes the cards look a bit too similar.
I've never even heard of this game and cards seem really interesting. Can you give an honest opinion on how monetization is? I'd love to try it, but I don't want to waste hundreds of hours or pay hundreds of dollars to be competitive.
@@MortyrSC2 I don't know how it is now, but when I played, it was very generous with gold and packs, definitely miles better than Hearthstone. It might have changed in the last few years though, i haven't kept up
@@MortyrSC2
A very popular opinion in the community is that this game is f2p.
Crafting your first deck isn't very hard and it gives you the resources you need as long as you play. They give you 50 packs after completing the tutorial and a free "temporary deck." Yes, temporary decks expire on the next set.
You get your resources from login rewards, completing the story, missions, playing other formats, and events.
That's all I can say.
man i hope we get another ep for this, especially for someone that just started HS and has been playing SV for the last 2 and a half years and the meta has changed drastically since this vid
Yo this was super fun :D I haven't played too much Shadowverse but I actually did pretty decent at this one (at least compared to other episodes). Shoutout to Ignideus! This was a great episode and he was a fantastic guest.
> I can't imagine how long it takes to spend 50 mana
Even without accelerate recovering points 50 mana is just 10 turns of playing on curve and 5 additional mana. With the essentially tradeable legendary consuming 5 mana every time it's traded it's gotta be able to invoke on turn 9 or even earlier.
I've started playing Shadowverse recently and even the tutorial cards are something else.
For example, the Nature Necromancer one:
This deck revolves completely around a tree that costs 1 mana to cast, and when it dies, you can draw a card.
But then if you play another tree, the previous tree dies.
But then there's a Witch that everytime the tree dies, you can summon a 2/1 undead pet that can attack immediately enemy followers, but not the enemy hero in that turn. Also if the pet dies, you get to draw one tree.
And also there's a cute doggy that gets stats everytime a tree dies.
So the whole deck is about getting a bunch of these trees and then get on the field the witch or the dog, spam trees, wipe out the enemy board with the undead pets while buffing the dog and eventually win that turn or next turn.
Also a lot of cards in that deck allow you to get either a free tree or a card that can summon a tree for free.
But this is also an UNDEAD deck, so, everytime a creature (including undead pets and trees) dies, you gain a shadow, and you can use these shadows to do extra stuff, like, there's a card that if you have more shadows than cards in your deck, you get to summon that card for free from your deck, and do a bunch of stuff.
It's really much more entertaining than Heartstone, in my opinion
You're talking about Natura Shadow, and btw, these are not exactly the "tutorial cards", these are actual meta decks that you can use in story more for free.
Well, "meta" as in, they used to be meta and rotated out, and too slow for Unlimited(wild format).
@@Aleks-e8g oh I see, I just got the deck out of nowhere in the first story and thought it was some sort of tutorial deck
I wish one day he would invite Moonfassa and do such a video with Faeria cards, because the mechanics are so similar to Hearthstone but yet sooo different.
Ignideus actually just seems like a pretty cool guy great guest to introduce to another game
I loved this video. I loved that we got an hour of power, I was interested in shadowverse so this helped me think about some things, and Ignidious was SUPER fun to listen to and clear with getting his point across. Thanks for the video Rarran
dang ngl i can put this video on loop and watch it for 10 hours its so entertaining seeing the interactions between 2 people who play different TCG's
This looks like the card game I’d be most willing to play outside of hearthstone from watching these videos. Thanks for exposing your boy 🙌
I love how I know nothing of either game and can not only follow along for the most part but understand most points made. The card game community is wild and awesome
My favorite collab so far, great guest I need to try shadowverse
.. Idk how the state of the game is right now, but they do a decent job nerfing cards within Max 2 weeks if they're massively op (or were when I played)
Idk if Ignideus teaches or coaches in any capacity but I really appreciate how clear and concise he is with his explanations, especially with accommodating for a Hearthstone audience.
i think he said at some point of the video that he is a shadowverse tournament caster
Probably got a quite some experience talking about the game
1 of my Biggest complaints with Shadowverse is that (at least when I played) is that their Arena Mode only lasted for 5 games before you got rewards. It kind of sucks that you could draft the most fun deck ever, go 5-0 and then be forced to stop.
Really wish enstatued seraph and path to purgatory had been shown they're my favorite cards lol
Great vid
Also *cough* d-shift *cough*
These cards were super interesting to compare to other TCG’s!
Especially that last card, Bahamut. I also saw it as a card to counter control decks, but thinking about the effect more, it actually WANTS to be played by control decks.
Even if the effect let your opponent PICK the five cards… it still wouldn’t be enough cards for your opponent to ever catch up.
The funny thing is, in Bahamut vs Bahamut mirror match, the game boils down to whoever can invoke Ultimate Bahamut first, since banishing random cards from your opponents deck potentially banish their Bahamuts too.
Would to see this done again but with cards from all sets ever printed. Shadowverse has always had some very interesting and honestly broken cards. So seeing some from the past/wild sets would be really fun :)
I wonder what Rarran would think of Deepwood Anomaly
Ignideus is one of the best guest yet. Don’t know who he is but he put everything in HearthStone terms and is interesting in his reveals.
this is essentially a really interesting information gathering game, using your early results to shape the mental model of the game as you go. The juno fusion card ranking meant that drawing or generating cards is trivial. The bad 20 dmg otk card means that games likely end before 8, and there aren't many ways to get cheap spells.
44:40 wielder of cosmos is almost always put in resonance portal. This card is just an auto-win against bahamut (a mill deck) decks since their only win condition is you having no cards in your deck but since it just puts cards in your deck it's a hard counter.
I totally love it when you guess cards in different games. It would be so cool if there would be such video about Gwent or Horus heresy: legions! These games have some really interesting and unique mechanics, different from hearthstone.
This is my favorite series. I love learning out other games like this
I have been looking forward to this video ever since rarran started this series. I follow both of you and absolutely love both games equally so the amount of jay I saw when this video came up so incredible
This was fun to watch, hoping more people look into shadowverse even more
Awesome stuff. I really liked how, even if you still continue to be HS-main content maker, you really became a bridge between communities. So yeah, keep it up, you doing great stuff! :)
One thing - to me card picks for this video was a little... Well, dodgy, because ~90% of them was hard to evaluate in vacuum, they are too reliable on how archetype is playable in general. So this is a little nit-pick, but, again, still an awesome video.
This felt like a 20 min video! Nice work Rarran
It would be cool for Hearthstone to have Banish effect to have some sort of counter for op deathrattle in the future. Remember Reno hero card? It battlecry said it magically disappear *poof*. That the only banish in hearthstone.
50:12 ok this card might be sound so non interactive. But remember the cosmos card before, it evolve effect Banish 10 card in your deck and put 10 clone of itself into the deck. It doesn't necessarily need 10 cards, to put the clone to the deck. So when your deck have banished by Bahamut you can evo that to refill your deck. There is other card that refill your deck to counter this (Like Kazakusan for hearthstone example.)
Ignideus cards line up that he pick is really great
I just redownloaded shadowverse, you should get sponsored to do these
Rarran stating he has difficulties saying some card names correctly in various card names.
As a Magic player, I present to you: Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar. She is the author of the Underworld Cookbook. Both (herself and the book) are cards in Magic, the Gathering.
Weeeww I've been waiting for a vid like this~ I play SV daily (migrated from HS a few years back; didn't care for the game after Brode left, but I still find videos about HS entertaining) and I actually sub to Ignideus lol So this video was amazing to watch~
ah man i miss shadowverse, i forgot why i stopped playing it
You did something I didn't think would happen for a long time. Getting back into SV. Thank you Wawwan
Awesome video , igni was an awesome guest!
i just love that more and more different card games is being brought, really interesting!
Should've shown some of the Unlimited powerhouses like basically Time Warp
Thank you for doing this! Great content. You are a rock star
Actually didn't know this game existed! Going to check it out after I finish the video! Thanks Rarran
Should do more with him or other Shadowverse creators. I remember playing it years ago since it was so similar to Hearthstone.
43:00 so its a card that changes your deck to the card it draws (maybe) so u can chain them (maybe) and draw more its a lot of stuff and looks cool for hearthstone (fatigue has well) and its just really cool and good (in hearthstone)
I used to play Shadowverse years ago so I _thought_ I'd understand both games for once... but then he brought up the "evolve" stuff and I was immediately lost, lol; I'd _completely_ forgotten that mechanic
We need more of this content!!
that bahamut pronunciation sent me. At this point Rarran is the SaffronOlive of Hearthstone
Ignideus is mad chill, great vid :D
Man, I haven’t played shadowverse for a long time, but I can imagine elana haven being super jealous when sword got musician
Rarran “I think it would be good in a deck that can play it”
Everyone else “CORRECT”
Rarran's just-woke-up voice keeps me alive
i would love more shadowverse content like this one
As someone who also plays magic these keywords are confusing. Ward and storm are both keywords in magic but they mean completely different things in shadowverse.
To be fair, Shadowverse had Ward LONG before MtG did (it's been in the game since release, which was in 2016, whereas MtG only got in it Strixhaven), though the reverse can be said for Storm.
omg it’s igni
I love this crossover so much
I get to play Shadowverse a lot when it came out. The art is reallly beatiful! You should try it
Rarran thought he learned from LoR that discard is not always ok but alas Shadowverse was the exception. Great video
Decided to rewatch this, and it took 10 months and a buff for Mars 10:33 to be good, just when she's about to rotate out of the expansion lol.
What I liked in Shadowverse when I played it a while ago is the fact that the devs have no shame when it comes to printing crazy cards. It's a balancing philosophy that is less about only nerfing overpowered stuff and more about giving batshit insane tools to everyone in large amount and on a regular basis, which make many strategies fun yet viable for casual players.
However, the game can be kinda overwhelming for newcomers, especially if you're coming from Hearthstone.
We definitely need more shadowverse content.
Me: havent heard of shadowverse ever and havent played HS constructed for years
Also me: this is the most interesting thing i have seen all day
I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE EXCITIED FOR A 52 MINITE YT VIDEO IN MY LIFE
Played the tutorial for a bit, but forgot about this game. Currently redownloading it to check it out.
it can be aruged that Ladica is amoung the strongest cards in shadowverse history.
She is basically a more beautiful roach, and you know how roach is
@@aureumordinemprincipia9272 *plays angel's grace*
"Pwned"
no
Rarran, you need to do one of these on Pvz Heroes. It is incredibly fun and unique. The game is no longer getting updated, but it has so much variety in cards that its irrelevant. It is one of my personal favorites, and I would love to see you evaluate the strength of the cards.
One thing I don't like about these is when people choose cards like Masterful Musician. That card is *clearly* just an add-on bolsterer for the Glittering Gold package, it has no identity of its own, and just serves to make that package a bit stronger. So there's no way to evaluate it in a vacuum and it's essentially a coin toss.
Yooo just got into watching the guessing how good Runeterra cards videos. One day hoping you'd do a Shadowverse one. My prayers have been answered.
Well to support my main girl ladica, the new set makes her very playable. Theres a card called carbuncle that reduces all cards in your hand and deck by one that also recovers 3 pp. Otk on turn 7, which is the cost of carbuncle, is very possible. Also, forest craft makes it so easy to last till turn 7.
Really loving Ignideus ! Hope you bring him on again
The main distinguishing feature is the waif... The evolve mechanic yeah.
25:44 Cernunnos is the Celtic god of the wild, he's basically Cenarias. It's pronounced 'care-noon-us' :D
Now, im waiting Rarran trying to guess Gods: Unchained cards.
It's interesting that most of the other card game content creator/pro had played Hearthstone at some point in their life.