Maybe Although i would prefer the BOSS during WW2 meeting the Cobra Unit and HOW she became the BOSS up until she meets John and have the game end there That would have more impact onto the players then you think Meeting the Sorrow, how Adamaska Salashaska was born, well not necessarily need to watch that sex scene LMAO But how the Philosophers snatched her baby away from her
@@monkeydjimmy5169sounds interesting but I'm rooting for a gray fox game where you play him from a child soldier to zanzibar, hell even have his perspectives of outer heaven, shadow moses and zanzibar!
@@monkeydjimmy5169 geezer they could even do a game with raidens back story being raised by solidus, or solid snake coming up in the foxhound ranks. Or remake mg1 and mg2 for ps5, fighting big boss and rescuing kio marv. Glorious. I'm excited for the future of the series.
You obviously don't understand his character. He wasn't a hero. He was someone who committed horrendous war crimes, and wanted to try to attone for his sins.
He was never a war criminal. The only war crimes he ever committed was taking out the Portuguese colonial troops with a combat knife as a child during Mozambique's war of independence. After that he was subjected to human experimentation and became a prototype cyborg ninja during mgs portable ops. Then an actual cyborg ninja before the events of mgs1. His life had episodes of suffering and he wanted it to end having given up wanting to live.
I almost cried when I read that, a Gray Fox game written, directed and produced by Kojima would have been a dream come true, hopefully he plays a part in Phantom Pain.
@@s1lenttaked0wn-90 yes but I did not like the results. Basically everything adds up but this one single smidge in the timeline. Around the time mgsV Grey Fox was trying to live a normal life with a figure skater he was in love with. But again there's a lot of shit that was either cut out of the game due to investor wanting it to be finally released which is evident with the unfinished/ missing chapters we have in the game which probably just made kojima wanting this done and over with so he can quit which I believe why the "player" is venom snake. I use to beat myself up about it but I also remember that the whole venom snake is actually big boss in Metal Gear doesn't add up either, "Big Boss" in outer heaven was killed by solid snake with a rocket launcher that's why in Metal Gear 2 Big Boss was a cyborg so... If venom died in outer heaven by basically getting blown to pieces why is Big Boss missing limbs in Metal Gear 2? And if your gonna say that's venom snake anyway okay fine but who did we meet in Mgs4? Big boss up and walking around because he even stayed The Patriots recovered the remains of liquid and solidus to basically harvest what the need to put Big Boss back together so is that venom too? Feels cheap, cop out and unbelievable. If you want my source for why I strongly believe it was grey fox look up all Null scenes in Portable Ops. ( No it was not made by kojima but he approved of all of it and how many times has he done that for this series? I believe only one time) Null is the perfect assassin/killing machine that under goes memory wipes after his mission is completed which when big boss fought him he was extremely impressed by his speed and skill and had to put a lot of effort into taking down which a few years ago before that he had to fight and kill The Boss so to me that's saying alot. Which would make perfect sense for the "reflex mode" that's obviously a Boss, Big Boss, Grey Fox characteristic, you move so fast it seems like time is slowing down. So what's more believable? Venom snake is actually grey fox that was trying to be a paramedic to save people's lives instead of taking them ( trying to find himself like at the beginning of this comment ) gets basically over ran by XOF and blown up by saving Big Boss from the blast which would require some speed to do in the first place, and big boss has to make a tough call by brain washing him into thinking he was actually big boss which grey fox is already proven to get totally memory wipes and brain washing successfully? And that's why Venom Snake is so believe to be big boss in terms of combat skill? Which by the way Grey Fox was THE ONLY member to achieve the rank of Fox? ( Yes I know Big Boss is much higher btw but none the less) Or some random fuckin dude.
Kojima originally wanted to use Grey fox for Metal Gear Rising then they switched it over to Raiden, though at first they were wanting to show what had happened between 2 and 4 and how Raiden got his body then they went with what we see today. Though I would love a prequel to that.
So I am here the first person comment. :) I think hes on of the best Characters ever.. If i could choose to play between Solid,Liquid,Rayed,Frank Jaeger( Gray Fox) and Solidus i would choose him :) Hes the perfect character for such an awesome game :)
That’s good Snake. Do you remember Snake the feel of battle the clashing of bone and sinew? Like old times? I’ve been waiting for this pain! That’s it I remember that punch. Hurt me more! More MORE!!
Grey Fox couldn't live forever After he was ready to die and they took him and made experiments on him he wasn't him self anymore , he *DIED* When they did the experiments on him , THAT'S WHY HE WANTED TO FIGHT SNAKE ( David ) TO DIE BY HIS HAND AND *NO ONE ELSE* MGS IS A TRUE *REALISTIC AND GROUNDED STORY THAT REALLY TEACHES YOU A LOT ABOUT LIFE*
A true soldier unlike today’s poor excuse’s of soldiers he fought for what he believed in and made a difference despite orders despite everything a true hero to look up to
I hated his death. We were cheated out of a spin off game about him! I wish that in a possible remake, his fate is re-written such that he gets to live, goes for psychological rehabilitation and is back in action, becoming somewhat of a mentor to Raiden after MGS2 and before MGS4, appearing in his own game before the events of MGS4 and then not showing up until an MGR3, where Raiden must eliminate him and this showdown with Fox parallels that when Naked Snake fought the Boss. But I know that will never happen because after seeing how abysmal Konami has treated its recent release of the Master collection of MGS, I have no confidence in them with their remake, Metal Gear Solid delta.
![Metal Gear Solid - Duel [EXTENDED] Music](/img/1.gif)
"Hand to hand, it is the basics of all combat."
Basis*
@@VanguardEternal Thanks. Hard to understand what he says when the crowd cheers in Smash.
Only a fool trusts his life to a weapon
we are not tools of the government
or anyone else...... fighting..... fighting was the only thing we were good at.
Great character with an incredible story. All the stuff with he found Naomi on the shores of Zanzibar and raised her. Prequel, Kojima?
Maybe
Although i would prefer the BOSS during WW2 meeting the Cobra Unit and HOW she became the BOSS up until she meets John and have the game end there
That would have more impact onto the players then you think
Meeting the Sorrow, how Adamaska Salashaska was born, well not necessarily need to watch that sex scene LMAO
But how the Philosophers snatched her baby away from her
@@monkeydjimmy5169sounds interesting but I'm rooting for a gray fox game where you play him from a child soldier to zanzibar, hell even have his perspectives of outer heaven, shadow moses and zanzibar!
@@makefoxhoundgreatagain842
I see where you going with this
I don't mind either
Either way am very happy
@@monkeydjimmy5169 geezer they could even do a game with raidens back story being raised by solidus, or solid snake coming up in the foxhound ranks. Or remake mg1 and mg2 for ps5, fighting big boss and rescuing kio marv. Glorious. I'm excited for the future of the series.
@@makefoxhoundgreatagain842
Am not so crazy about Raiden
I liked him in 2 and 4 but not rising
His death made him even more awesome. The perfect hero dies in the ultimate sacrifice.
You obviously don't understand his character. He wasn't a hero. He was someone who committed horrendous war crimes, and wanted to try to attone for his sins.
He was never a war criminal.
The only war crimes he ever committed was taking out the Portuguese colonial troops with a combat knife as a child during Mozambique's war of independence.
After that he was subjected to human experimentation and became a prototype cyborg ninja during mgs portable ops.
Then an actual cyborg ninja before the events of mgs1.
His life had episodes of suffering and he wanted it to end having given up wanting to live.
I almost cried when I read that, a Gray Fox game written, directed and produced by Kojima would have been a dream come true, hopefully he plays a part in Phantom Pain.
He does. Its venom snake... and I am going to prove it soon.
@@lessthanzer0828 what crack are you smoking?
@@lessthanzer0828did u do it
@@s1lenttaked0wn-90 yes but I did not like the results. Basically everything adds up but this one single smidge in the timeline. Around the time mgsV Grey Fox was trying to live a normal life with a figure skater he was in love with.
But again there's a lot of shit that was either cut out of the game due to investor wanting it to be finally released which is evident with the unfinished/ missing chapters we have in the game which probably just made kojima wanting this done and over with so he can quit which I believe why the "player" is venom snake.
I use to beat myself up about it but I also remember that the whole venom snake is actually big boss in Metal Gear doesn't add up either, "Big Boss" in outer heaven was killed by solid snake with a rocket launcher that's why in Metal Gear 2 Big Boss was a cyborg so... If venom died in outer heaven by basically getting blown to pieces why is Big Boss missing limbs in Metal Gear 2? And if your gonna say that's venom snake anyway okay fine but who did we meet in Mgs4? Big boss up and walking around because he even stayed The Patriots recovered the remains of liquid and solidus to basically harvest what the need to put Big Boss back together so is that venom too? Feels cheap, cop out and unbelievable.
If you want my source for why I strongly believe it was grey fox look up all Null scenes in Portable Ops. ( No it was not made by kojima but he approved of all of it and how many times has he done that for this series? I believe only one time)
Null is the perfect assassin/killing machine that under goes memory wipes after his mission is completed which when big boss fought him he was extremely impressed by his speed and skill and had to put a lot of effort into taking down which a few years ago before that he had to fight and kill The Boss so to me that's saying alot. Which would make perfect sense for the "reflex mode" that's obviously a Boss, Big Boss, Grey Fox characteristic, you move so fast it seems like time is slowing down.
So what's more believable? Venom snake is actually grey fox that was trying to be a paramedic to save people's lives instead of taking them ( trying to find himself like at the beginning of this comment ) gets basically over ran by XOF and blown up by saving Big Boss from the blast which would require some speed to do in the first place, and big boss has to make a tough call by brain washing him into thinking he was actually big boss which grey fox is already proven to get totally memory wipes and brain washing successfully? And that's why Venom Snake is so believe to be big boss in terms of combat skill? Which by the way Grey Fox was THE ONLY member to achieve the rank of Fox? ( Yes I know Big Boss is much higher btw but none the less)
Or some random fuckin dude.
@@makeitwright that's the dream.
i get fired up and excited everytime i listen to this soundtrack
TOKUGAWA HEAVY INDUSTRIES knows how to make bad-ass Cyborg Ninjas.
His death made me sad.:(.He was awesome
i so loved the special missons edition for mgs1 where you could play as gray fox
A cornered fox is more DANGEROUS than a jackal!
now imagine him in MGS revengeance
That would have been amazing
@@reyestwilight1600 It would have been incredible, but I dont think he would stand a chance tho..
@@abigmonster8457 "Don't you know? A cornerd Fox is at is most dangerous!" - Grey Fox, Metal Gear Solid 1
You can buy his gear for 4.99 it's op af but against bosses not so much
@@Av4ta7 wait I thought it was
“Don’t you know? A cornered fox is more dangerous than a jackal!”
Kojima originally wanted to use Grey fox for Metal Gear Rising then they switched it over to Raiden, though at first they were wanting to show what had happened between 2 and 4 and how Raiden got his body then they went with what we see today. Though I would love a prequel to that.
That's only cause the team did a terrible job, and Kojima had to scrap it.
Gray Fox deserved a dlc story in rising tho
I 've just been addicted!!! ;-)
“Do you remember, Snake? The feel of battle; the clashing of bone and sinew….”
So I am here the first person comment. :) I think hes on of the best Characters ever.. If i could choose to play between Solid,Liquid,Rayed,Frank Jaeger( Gray Fox) and Solidus i would choose him :) Hes the perfect character for such an awesome game :)
@sopi2
Solid Snake is a perfect hero as well, coz Gray Fox was Snake friend in the end and in zanzibar land
Best song ever I think for this character
That’s good Snake. Do you remember Snake the feel of battle the clashing of bone and sinew? Like old times? I’ve been waiting for this pain! That’s it I remember that punch. Hurt me more! More MORE!!
Best song ever =)
Grey Fox couldn't live forever
After he was ready to die and they took him and made experiments on him he wasn't him self anymore , he *DIED* When they did the experiments on him ,
THAT'S WHY HE WANTED TO FIGHT SNAKE ( David ) TO DIE BY HIS HAND AND *NO ONE ELSE*
MGS IS A TRUE *REALISTIC AND GROUNDED STORY THAT REALLY TEACHES YOU A LOT ABOUT LIFE*
You earned a sub for posting this
A true soldier unlike today’s poor excuse’s of soldiers he fought for what he believed in and made a difference despite orders despite everything a true hero to look up to
He’s not real Barrie
@@Aidan-vb4dx neither is D.c or marvel heroes yet millions favor their moral codes and examples of a decent human being
@Darkicec Perfect character or 'prefect soldier' :D hey portable ops!!!!
I miss 😢these men
epic
Gray Fox vs Raiden when?
I hated his death.
We were cheated out of a spin off game about him!
I wish that in a possible remake, his fate is re-written such that he gets to live, goes for psychological rehabilitation and is back in action, becoming somewhat of a mentor to Raiden after MGS2 and before MGS4, appearing in his own game before the events of MGS4 and then not showing up until an MGR3, where Raiden must eliminate him and this showdown with Fox parallels that when Naked Snake fought the Boss.
But I know that will never happen because after seeing how abysmal Konami has treated its recent release of the Master collection of MGS, I have no confidence in them with their remake, Metal Gear Solid delta.
Remember, this guy has telekinesis.
@Darkicec Rayden not Rayed xD
@Darkicec ._. and its raiden not rayden o_e
@Darkicec lol wow. its raiden not rayden or rayed
I know I might get hated on this but oh we'll wesker vs grey yes wesker with tyrant speed and power
I meant his god like speed and tyrant strength messed that part up lol
TheShadowKnight471 Grayfox would easily win. Sword's deadly and Wesker would probably be running away, begging for mercy, lol.
Wesker will loose, couse he does not have rail gun in his pants, like REX had XD
What does the Gray fox say?
Nothing.
The last thing you will see for that reference is that glowing eye of his.
"HURT ME MORE!"
"A cornered fox is more dangerous than a jackal!"
DO YOU REMEMBER NOW, SNAKE?!
That's it. I remember that punch
Gray Fox = badass Raiden = snowflake
Troll on top of troll.
Who would win (MGS Rising) Raiden or Gray Fox
Raiden.
LOL
Fox would cream Raiden into submission that it's not even funny...
Raiden
Raiden would shit all over Gray Fox even tho i hate to admit it
🍻
so underrated
not ennemi nor friend
*Enemy
@blazedandahalf Yeah xDDD Raiden :D
grey fox is big boss
no
The fuck? That's very wrong.
When i heard this soundtrack i started smoshing things , not in a good way xd