Gerber Three Valve Shower Body Repair - Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 5 дек 2013
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This is part 1 of my 2 part series called "Three-Valve Shower Body Repair".In this two-part series, I take you through the steps on removing and replacing the stems and seats in a three valve shower body.
When I started in the business back in the late 60's early 70's we would actually replace the washers, seats and re-pack the stems with new graphite packing. In today's world that's not a cost-effective alternative anymore so we just replace the old with new O.E.M. parts when available
The manufacturer featured in the video is Gerber which in my opinion makes a really good product and is very popular here on the east coast. Some other popular makers of this style shower body are Price Pfister, Sterling, Central to name a few. They're similar in design with slightly different takes on how the sleeves and escutcheons are attached.
As in most of the videos to date, I'm demonstrating on the bench top with a new fitting which means everything is being removed easily. A word of caution is that in the real world this may not be the case, and you're going to need a couple of specialty tools which I point out in the video.
As you can see in the video this shower body is set quite deep into the wall which can make removing the chrome sleeves a challenge. Before attempting to remove the sleeves regardless of how shallow or deep into the wall they are, you have to chip away and remove the tile grout or caulking.
This will increase the success rate of unscrewing and removing the sleeve without any damage. Although we live in a world of Single Lever anti-scald shower bodies, rest assured that there are thousands of these shower body's still in service and at some point, they're going to need repair. I laid out some recommended tools for this repair so check them out before you begin.
I'll see you in part 2:
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Bob great videos. Best on the Tube. Real world I would add a self- adjusting pipe wrench to the tool arsenal. 1/2 inch to 1 1/2 inch.It was the only thing I had to run out and get when I recently replaced my shower facets with a complete rebuild kit by Gerber. Diverter and chrome sleeve would not budge without it. Great job.
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Sometimes in the real world, thats the way it is. This guy gets it.
Thank you Cheyenne, appreciate that and thanks for checking out the video. Regards, Bob.
Great video. To avoid scratching the chrome sleeve I wrap one turn of an old bicycle tube around it and then use channel locks or a small pipe wrench.
Great Idea! Regards, Bob.
Thank you Bob you saved me big time! Seriously. Question for you. My scution & sleeve are one piece. What do I use to stick it to the wall? Caulk?
+Robert Bane I use a good quality latex based silicone caulk and thanks for checking out my video! Regards, Bob.
Bob, can this type of 3 handle rough-in valve be installed upside down to accommodate water supply lines coming down from the attic/ceiling? They all seem to point downward for water supply as if made only for 2nd story homes. Of course if allow to flip, I would expect all handles to turn in the opposite direction. Thanks in advance.
The one in the video? No! I've seen two valve shower body's feed from the top but because of the center shower diverter, I believe they have to be installed as shown. If it were to be installed upside down you would have to pipe the shower riser out the bottom and back up to where you intend on placing the shower head.
Great video. I have 4 price pfister 2 and valves in my apartments for washer dryer shutoffs. Easy to find at Home Depot. One 3 valve seems to have a ceramic disc on a 3 valve. Wondering if that is Kohler or??????
Maybe Gerber Ceramic disc? Never seen an older Kohler ceramic stem?
I notice you didn't use any Teflon tape or pipe dope on the threads. Oversight? Not necessary? Thank you!
There are or "should be" nylon or fiber washers on the stems, occasionally when you remove the stems, they'll remain in the body.
Where can I find that set or socket ranches ? I have looked for them at home Depot, Menards, AutoZone, Ace. Problem is that the cartridge is inside of a pipe and my regular sockets don't fit in it
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Great video. However, I find it funny that every video I have watched on this subject the knob comes off easy. I've been tugging at my diverter knob with the handle puller for a good hour now.
+witstang Fact is in real life they almost never come off and if I can't get it off with the handle puller. I break them off and replace the handle as well!
+BobsPlumbingVideos I did that the last time I fixed it. So far I haven't had any problems since. knock on wood
5:48. My sleeve is so stuck on. It’s just not turning. I feel like the acrylic or glue .. whatever they used on the other side. Is preventing it from moving. I just can’t get it 😭. I really don’t want to replace the whole main valve
I am trying to replace my diverter and the step is stuck inside with thee asher and the piece with the 6 sided piece came out but I can't get tge stem with its washer out now. Any advice would be so greatly appreciated. I'm freaking out pretty much.
The stem is inside the "six sided piece" and should pull right out. Send me some pictures, email to info@robertsessaplumbing.com.
I have a old school geber system like yours I can’t get the screw since it’s stripped. One handle I was able to take screw off but the sleeve didn’t wanna come off...
When I get a call for a three valve shower body, regardless of make I do a complete re-build. The rebuild kits are readily available from Home Depot or Lowes (unfortunately imported) and include all the stems ,seats, handles and all the chrome trim. I believe a company called Danco makes them.
BobsPlumbingVideos I found the same style that I have online. Only problem I have screws are stripped on my old bathtub handles and I can’t seem to take them off. Any ideas how to take off screws. Thanks
P.s. there was moen parts in with slip in stems and extra brass cover screwed over
How can I get the stem out? (it's really old). It's far enough out that I can use a wrench, but it just won't budge! I'm afraid I'm going to break it. Any suggestions? Thank you!!
Make sure the stem is in the neutral position (half way open) then use a crescent wrench, pipe wrench or channel lock pliers in a counterclockwise direction.
@@BobsPlumbingVideos Thank you! That... and a pipe wrench... helped.
Fixed the drip, now I have to replace the packing (?). This old lady ain't a plumber. lol. (though my grandad was a master plumber and worked in the old oil fields!).
Thank you for your help!
When needing to replace tub stems and manifold has no inner thread to put stem. What kind of stem can I use
Send me a detailed photo of your job, info@robertsessaplumbing.com.
I have replaced the stem and seat twice already, still drips. Any idea what else it could be Bob?
Have you tried putting a little Teflon on the seat threads before installing it? I've found that this often stops the leak. Also bear in mind when you shut off this type of stem (washers) the water will not STOP immediately. It will continue to trickle out for maybe 60 seconds give or take.
I have not use teflón tape, I will try that on the seat and stem. Thank you Bob.
7:30: How is replacing a rubber washer or packing less 'cost effective' than buying new brass fittings? Isn't that the reason we're skipping the plumber and fixing it ourselves..?
For a homeowner / D.I.Y that holds true. But with the overhead costs associated with a service business in today's world and risking a potential call back because of the washer not working out, replacing the stem and seat is a better choice for the professional contractor.
BobsPlumbingVideos That’s a given- But this is “your online resource for people who don’t want to call a plumber”! The washer was $.60 cents.
I have 3 handle Price Pfister diverter stem that keeps leaking. I replaced stem and seat. Is it possible that it's a Gerber and someone previously installed wrong stem? They look very similar.
Other ideas? I did make sure stem was in open position and both plastic washers and rubber one are new intact. Thanx, nice video.
They're not interchangeable, you can find these rebuild kits here - www.kissler.com/
@@BobsPlumbingVideos Those prices are pretty high. Cheaper Danco kits on Amazon. Any idea why the Diverter would still be leaking when shower running? Thanx
www.danco.com/