Final Fantasy 7 Remake Intergrade: PS5 vs PS4 Pro - A Brilliant Next-Gen Upgrade!
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- Everything to know about Final Fantasy 7 Remake's PS5 upgrade. Visual updates come free to anyone who owns the original PS4 game, opening the gates to a new 60fps mode, improved textures, lighting, better world streaming, rapid loading times and so much more. Tom picks through the highlights of a superb PS5 re-release - plus a look at the new exclusive DLC starring Yuffie.
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The Door has been talked about more than the game itself and that's not an easy feat. The Door is the real MVP.
“You’ll get your rent when you fix this damn door!”
Now you know why they didn't patch it in the PS4 version. They got a selling point for the PS5 version handed to them for free by the players.
@@SunwardTerror 🤣🤣🤣 Spider-Man 3 right?
Can can you believe there are people out there lying about not noticing the door. Would be like someone running at you with a knife and pointing at you shouting DIE and saying I didn't notice him.
@@SunwardTerror 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Those loading times are ridiculous
Lol farming at Midgar should be faster now!
That’s why ps is better. This comparison says it all. Xbots are somewhere crying rn. Another L failbox 🗑
Console wars in 2021? Zzzz
@@thirtythird985 Small D confirmed.
I love when I hear "loading times are ridiculous" these days I know that's a really good thing and not a really bad thing.
"Photo mode on Intergrade can be used to create beautiful shots of Midgar ... " and Tifa.
Not the kind you want though. It doesn't let you move the camera freely enough for that.
@@carpetfluff35 F
Ah Tifa
@@carpetfluff35 haha
Hahaha what a damn lie...it is an atrocious photo mode, there aren't even depth of field settings that are used in EVERY SINGLE cutscene in this game.
What blew my mind the most was that you can jump from chapter to chapter instantly. As someone who jumped around a bit to get the Platinum trophy this was amazing to see.
Legit I just have it at graphics mode since I got a new tv. But god dang that instant load is like magic to me.
Digital foundry is on fire lately. Gg guys
Yeah they are on fire for being biased and leaning towards money
@@shyamkumarsasi3577 what are you talking about
@@opaz3530 PS fans claim they're getting money from MSOFT, PC fans claim they're getting money from Nvidia and other places to hype up their products, etc.
@@opaz3530 he trolling
@@LN.2233 I still don’t understand. DigitaI foundry is reporting on games like they always do. If Xbox fans want digital foundry to talk about Xbox more, Xbox should drop some games.
Played about 6 hours on PS5. Just superb compared to PS4 Pro. Performance mode is the way to go.
Motion persistence of image is a quality boost that far exceeds what you get at 4k/30 with the amount of judder the frame rate introduces (especially if you are on a high refresh display).
Performance mode is the only way to go.
@@cronoesify agreed
looks like a nice port
Agreed 100% I found the graphics mode unplayable since I first started playing in performance mode. I didn't even see a big difference in the visuals between the 2 modes.
Went straight to performance mode , put it down to 30 just to see if there was a visual difference (wasn't as far as my eyes could tell) and holy shit 30 makes me sick now lol
Knowing that texture pop-in is a thing of the past is a relief
Yeah PS4 really was on its last legs trying to run this game.
I just turned on YT hoping for that video and here it is. Thank you!
I’ve had such a difference in my gaming ever since developers started putting in 60 FPS modes. Now, I can’t stand playing a game at 30 FPS. It feels like a slideshow. And 4K is not enough to coax me away from the performance mode. All future games should have a 60 FPS mode included.
Lmao, we've been saying this for years
Yes. Insomniac has been doing that very effectively imo. I think performance RT is the best mode. Loss resolution is barely visible when you’re just playing. But 60 fps and ray tracing to match it looks really awesome
@@huskytzu7709 agreed, ratchet and clank is by far the prettiest game I’ve seen. Performance RT FTWV
Could not agree more man, ps5 and a brand new 4k TV has made me not be able to tolerate 30fps at all.
NOOOO!! STOP IT ! YOUR EEYES CANT SEE HIGHER THAN 30 FPS REEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Damn digital foundry is on it lol.
60 fps makes combat feel so fast and fluid
Yeah, I appreciate these quality modes for photo modes and such but the 60fps is just incredible to look at. The difference in quality is so small when its in motion. The biggest issue was pop in textures and thats fixed regardless. Both modes also get the improved lighting and such. I can't wait to play this again at 60fps.
@@mbrannon Welcome to 2001
@@reynutz We are obviously talking about in the context of modern consoles and these massive resolutions. But okay.
@@reynutz Yeah, these new kids on the block just never experienced CRT back then in 1080p.
makes plasma, lcd , led look like a JOKE !
Fluid ?............lol, early 2000's was FUILD AF on crt !
@@mbrannon Massive? Dynamic "4K" that rarely reaches 1440p is Massive?
I haven't played this yet so, glad I waited.
Same
W
@@WhiteHawk77 I haven’t no
Same i waited just cuz i heard of the upgrade
@@WhiteHawk77...... I didn't like the original because of the turn based combat.
The default mode is actually Performance Mode on PS5
That is the case with a lot of games. My belief is that developers generally prefer 60 FPS modes themselves. They had their hands tied behind their back the last gen with the pro/x upgrades. They had all this excess power on the GPU because the CPU couldn't consistently stay close enough to 60 on most titles, so they basically locked to 30 and then threw resolution at the GPU.
Sloppy floating points no one is going to notice, but you also get in practice inferior texture clarity.
@@richardfranklin6003
Yeah the CPU wasnt the grunt work. I bet money the devs were using GCNs compute shaders for general purpose compute, like x86. Honestly in the future with a.i., cell might make a comeback. The in order hand holding nonsense in software will no longer be a hinderance.
Intergrade makes me want to replay the game from the beginning
That’s what I’m going now. Didn’t bother importing my save. Playing the main game completely from scratch before going onto the Yuffie DLC.
Planning to do this on pc
I imported my NG+ save and chapter selected back to the beginning on easy just to see everything.
That’s the point, sergeant
I almost play in ps4 pro.. didn’t transfer my save because I want to earn the trophies on ps5 and experience the glory of 60fps... my god it looks good. Every cutscene makes me feel HIGH, it’s such a pleasure. Fucking amazing game.
These loading times are unreal
Welcome to 2010+
What?
@@Magido89 He is a PC Elitist.
@@gtasmike333 lol sure, these games did not exsist in 2010 and neither did SSD's at this speed
@@solid_justice5855 Thats why i wrote the +.
This is just gorgeous
I tried out the resume function today. 5 seconds and I was in the Reactor, right off of the system's home screen.
Great stuff, Tom. You caught all the major points I noticed when I was playing through last night and this morning.
Gotta play at 60fps.
I bought the last PS4 disc that was in store the same day Integrade was announced. Amazing timing. Have waited to play it until the update released so I’m playing it for the first time now. Love it so much. Maybe the beat looking game I’ve played.
Seeing this game go from developer hell to this has been incredible! I cannot wait for part 2!!!
The game was never in development hell. Taking 5 yrs to produce a AAA rpg is average. It probably felt like dev hell since they really didn't talk about it from 2016 to early 2019 but it was right on track.
@@densetsu4286 I dunno, throwing out a studio's entire work on the game after 2 years and then starting from scratch in-house sounds like development hell to me. Not anywhere close to, say, Versus XIII or Duke Nukem Forever, but still dev hell nonetheless.
@@valkyrion_ex1173 Exactly. Glad you're informed!
@@servantbyday actually he's not at all. They didn't throw out an entire studios worth of work. That's just a piss poor rumor that is easily disproven.
Multiple scenes play out the exact same from cc2 and final release. With the main difference being the assets used. Camera angles, model placements, model movements are all the same or similar. A lot has been kept. It's almost like looking at the natural progress from an early idea/concept scene to a polished finished release.
And having trouble does not equal development hell. Development hell is when a he takes too long to come out. This is not the case for ffviir. Ffviir took about the same time frame that an average AAA rpg takes to develop even with its issues early on. In fact the oppisite is true given the fact that it even had some issues with an external studio and they still got it out in about the average time it takes. So that tells me there was no dev hell. And that after the issue it was pretty smooth sailing.
So again no he's not well informed.
I hate that they broke up the game into 2 parts, kinda lame
Just seeing the fine quality textures on yuffies moogle suit makes me appreciate SE attention to detail.
They should have shown that door in the trailers! Square did a really poor job of actually showing the graphical differences. Whenever I watched the trailers I was mostly thinking "So what am I supposed to be looking at here?" I knew I could count on you guys to really show it properly.
The biggest difference is in how the game feels to play at 60fps. No one in their right mind would like to play in 30fps mode. You must be living life in slideshow mode if are actually able to deal with 30fps in a fast paced game like this.
@@Deffine I said "graphical differences". I mean I guess frame rate is technically a graphical difference but it's much more of a gameplay thing.
@UCsh3G5xBUOsY3-BbAAzK7uA Some are improved, others are not. Episode 2 will 100% improve with much higher quality assets. That is, if they are developing only for PS5. If they are also developing for PS4, the difference may not be as big.
@@Deffine I will play the 30fps mode. This game’s combat isn’t on the level of fast response as something like DMC or Bayonetta so I’ll take the higher resolution, thanks 😌
@@Highwaysonyfan87 Dude, are you living life in a slideshow? I have to ask, because normal human beings can notice light blinking at 1/2000th of a second. Im not gonna say that translates to seeing in 2000fps, but even 60fps is far, far away from whats natural "smoothness" to human eyes. 60fps is a good standard though and there are clear diminishing returns after 90fps. If we had 60fps as minimum and 90fps as an option, that would be the ideal gaming environment.
60fps is so good on this game, sheeesh!
People who own this game through PS plus can now get the PS5 version for free! (As of 22nd December) enjoy!
Switching to graphics mode definitely gives a noticable increase in clarity. It looks stunning and lifelike. But I stuck to performance mode because during fast-paced fights, it's more than sharp enough. I wish they had a 120hz / 40fps 4k mode. That extra 10fps makes a difference in other games, like Ratchet and Clank and Spiderman.
THanks Tom! Was hoping this video would turn up today.
Fantastic vid Tom. Always nice to get your take on games.
I have been waiting for you review before I re played again in fact. Performance mode it is! Thank for all your hard work DF
The combat is just fantastic in 60fps. Especially Yuffie and Sonon
Agreed
Seriously, the speed of the combat and the animations absolutely SHINE at 60fps. I love looking at the mechanical enemies' components shifting and moving in 60fps. The clarity is glorious.
What a great video presentation , great job DF
FINALLY, I find a comparison video that is godlike. Superb visual comparisons and explanations -- entirely comprehensive. Thanks!
Great summer to have a PS5!!
@@AndreaNasuelli oh damn, yeah it sucks that it’s still hard to find one! I got super lucky that I got on in December at Retail price. Had to hunt one for like 3 weeks but I finally got one through the Walmart mobile app! Rachet and Clank Rift Apart is incredible though!! Worth buying the console just for that game!
Wrapping up returnal secret ending then going for this at STELLAR 60 FPS FUCK YES
Don't forget Ratchet and Clank. Played for 6 hours today, it's AMAZING!
@@jakeifraimov3430 rift apart is so fun. Fuckin eye candy too
Same here. Although I’m going with Ratchet & Clank first. ^^
Great video. Thanks for all your good work.
Thanks Tom, love your technical deep dives 💕
This is what I've been waiting on
To anyone wondering: background of slums in the reactor section is fixed too, it's clear as a day now wherever you look at it. And I really digging the perfomance mode, HECK, if you are gonna clear all the side content, you'll encounter a battle where a 60fps is essential because you need to read the enemy animation and act very fast accordingly to evade/counter -- it's the Weiss ultimate boss battle. I have a feeling they made it deliberately this way to show us how stable 60 is also affecting the gameplay in a great way!
i won the game on the ps4 on pc i would want to play it on 4 k mode.
I wanted to thank you since I'm only playing this now in graphics mode, and am pretty happy with the combat, but it's good to know this for when I get to it. Thanks!
Great video! I'm really enjoying the new DLC and looking forward to completing hard mode this way!
This is really the best channel on youtube, who knew watching game frame rate graphs could be so entertaining
I'm really mad that they didn't released that update on the ps plus version, hope it will came out for free with the ps4 version of the dlc
Have the loading hallways been eliminated in Intergrade?
Great video! Will definitely be replaying this in performance mode.
I was hoping for this analysis. Thanks Tom!
i just bought the PS5 upgrade, and this will be my 3rd time replaying this game ( 1st on PS4 and 2nd on PC ), and my god it's just so good, i hope Rebirth will also have a smooth 60 fps like this
Apparently there will be the option but we really can't be too sure of it being a quality mode. Hopefully it has good image quality and a solid frame rate.
Best one yet Tom, really notice your effort on increasing the energy level when reading out your script. Keep it up!
I wish they compared the new skybox in the slums a little more cause I noticed right away that Midgars towers and plates looked different. Would love a side by side comparison
Finally!! Thanks been waiting for this
Now I can’t wait for Alex’s ray tracing analysis! lol
Glad they fixed those textures, they definitely stood out to me on the PS4 Pro version
I played on a regular ps4. I noticed the textures but they didn't bother me as much as the NPC popping. Blurry textures are noticeable if you are looking directly at them but it's very hard to ignore people getting beamed down from the Enterprise as you get closer.
Because it's so early in the console generation, it's hard sometimes to remember that I'm even playing on a new generation. But when I see ~1s loading, vs ~30s....yeah, I'm glad I upgraded.
In some ways that feels far more transformative than just a mere graphics upgrade. Ghost of Tsushima at 60 FPS is great, I love quick resume on the Series X for easily jumping back in on a variety of games. There are hiccups to be sure and supply problems are putting a damper on it but this generation has some really snazzy features that really change the way I'm approaching games.
You guys do a great job. I don't understand half the things your saying but I'm learning, and I appreciate the consistent quality and positivity of all the content.
Fantastic, just what I wanted to know! Definitely will stick with that 60fps mode since all the other settings are the same. Thanks, Tom
I’m so happy with this upgrade, puts a whole new standard to how this should be done
Ps plus owners can get the free upgrade now.
The smoothness is just unreal. Already platinumed but I have no problems replaying some bosses for fun it’s just gorgeous in motion.
Yes!! I was waiting for this video!
Been playing in the 60fps mode and it’s great!
Loading times, 60fps (at 1512 resolution) and Yuffie DLC are highlights for me. The added fog (@9:06) is the only thing I'm not too keen on.
Ya idk man the fog is a lil weird, maybe if I play the game again maybe it will actually make the atmosphere better
They should reduce the fog
I just came to see the door. Thank you DF! 06:47
I'm curious if Rebirth will have 60fps mode at all for Base PS5 or if it will only be 60fps on the PS5 pro.
Man im looking forward to finish the game in 60fps on my PS5 🥰
Conflicted cos I want to get it on PC but I also don't want to encourage console pricing in the the PC space.
an upgrade of this size for free? insane. amazing coverage as always. I might pick up the game now!
I was sooo stoked to play the remake that i didnt even notice any issues like the "Door", only thing i noticed was the city in the background while you walk above it
Performance mode is the way to go! Buttery smooth.
Yeah they confirmed at 4:15 that the only diff between the modes is resolution
If every game's 60fps mode only dropped the resolution I'd go for it every single time. It's the only thing I'm willing to sacrifice on consoles for better framerate.
Problem is, it's not as crisp. Both are locked and steady so both are good depending on what you want.
@@arootube True native 4K is overrated, I always choose reconstructed/dynamic 4K or even 1440p 60fps over native 4K 30.
@@SaboteurDS Except it's not.
I think there was a little bit of an oversight here on DF's part because while yes the 60fps mode feels incredible, I can easily tell that there are some much sharper textures in the graphics mode. Stuff like environmental and clothing textures are noticeably sharper and having the ability to pick up tiny details such as subtle emotions and blood vessels in character's eyes and tiny scuffs and scratches on Cloud's buster sword have a night and day difference in quality IMO. Once the 60fps novelty wears off, I highly recommend fans check out some of their favourite cutscenes in the graphics mode. In FF7R the visual experience is super important to hardcore FF7 fans and I think if they do happen to have a 4k screen, they are absolutely doing themselves a bit of a disservice if they choose to completely ignore the graphics mode because simply because it's not 60fps.
After playing the first mission on the upgrade, it felt like in retrospect i was playing the game with grease smeared glasses for the 3+ playthroughs on the ps4 pro. Everything just looks so much clearer, the ability to read a sign clearly from like 10 feet away makes it seem so much more real and less ethereal
Did they remove any of the in-game loading zones where you slowly shimmy past hallway junk?
I happened to have a save at Ch17 where you are walking out to the balcony to see Shinra President hanging. Loading that save from game menu is only 1 sec.
4:12 that resolution and lose nothing except pixel count? Good, I am still using 1080p monitor lol
Definitely time to upgrade my friend.
This game was made for PS5, started playthrough on PS4 pro, and now finishing on PS5. Performance mode makes the animations and cutscenes absolutely god tier
Just curious but when playing the PS4 version on the PS5, did it improve the textuer popin/loading at all? Did it run at higher resolution since game made use of DRS so it'd be closer to 2160p? I'm basically curious of a PS5 to PS5 comparison of the PS4 and PS5 apps
Really good video, thank you. Your enthusiam for this shines through and Im looking foward to getting back into this real soon. Ratchet first... xD
other than the fog, everything in this next-gen patch is incredible.
yeah the extra fog is over done
I like the fog
@@drdoomslab It depends really. Some sections actually look better with it IMO.
Wish there was an option to turn off or at least reduce the fog
@@michaeljohn5130 honestly this. Having options for an arguable and entirely subjective improvement would be great.
I cant believe how worried i was about this game after the first announcement forever ago. All the rumors of how bad it was going, turned out to be the best thing they could have done. So happy they made this
Well it's still years off being completed so plenty of time for them to screw up.
The game is good but the ending and last chapter are completely nonsense and destroy final fantasy 7 itself
@@albertwesker9592 Because they are taking the remake into a different direction. It's not just a simple remake. It's a new chapter that goes alongside the original games and movie. That ending is really messed up because we don't have the next game but I'm I am confident they are taking in into an interesting direction. My guess is that Sephiroth or Jenova's spirit tried one last ditch effort to take over the world after the Advent Children movie and it involve either time travel or alternate realities. The weird spirits stuff we saw that were not in the original game are guiding events a certain way.
@@chamoo232 yeah probably, but the ending is messed up, people not familiar whit the whole final fantasy 7 compilation want understand a shit about it
@@albertwesker9592 Compared to games like Kingdom Hearts it's still one of the less messy and weird story that SE has made. As long as we get sequels that explain things it should make that ending better in the future. I still remember how much shit the Force Unleashed 2 game got for it's shit ending where you just capture Darth Vader. We never got a 3rd game to make that ending work in the timeline.
I never noticed the short falls on the pro because I was just too into it. Makes sense and I can't wait to replay when I get my ps5.
The load times on this and R&C are nuts. Like 1-3 seconds from the title menu on both of these games, crazy.
Can't wait to revisit my favorite game of 2020.
If you can get a PS5 that is. Or if Square will release it on the PC.
I'm not totally sold on some of those volumetric light changes. Whilst the PS4 had some nice contrast in light the PS5 makes some scenes look a bit bland.
If the volumetric light wasn't so uniform and almost filter like, maybe it would look better for me.
is that ps4 pro loading from hard drive? my ps4 pro with ssd is not that slow, but still that ps5 loading is really fast
Love your analysis.
Hope you all cover the recently released pc version on the Epic Game Store. 🤞
Free PS5 upgrade for PS Plus subscribers as of 22 Dec 2021. Ho Ho Ho. Merry Xmas
For those who own this game via PS plus, is there a way to buy this upgrade only separately, or do they need to buy the game at full price in order to receive this update? Does anyone know? Thanks.
So glad the PS5 upgraded version is on PS Plus Extra now!
I hadn’t played any Final Fantasy since PS2 I believe. I was so young I barely remember. Then on a whim I decided to play Final Fantasy 16 when it released and it was one the best games ever played. I understand the gameplay was significantly different than the old Final Fantasy games but from what I’ve heard in videos… the scale and epic of the story is common along the games. For that reason I’m so excited to go and play last few single player titles. Just started FF7 remake on PS5 last night and am so excited after the starting missions. I can’t believe I’ve missed out on these games for so many years.
2:51 is where comparisons start
The combat feels sooooo nice at 60fps
Yep
Are textures and effects the same in performance vs graphical modes?
Dl'd this last week but I've been working non stop. Can't wait to melt into this game all day tomorrow! Let's goooo!
Playing it for the first time on PS5, put eight hours into it and I love it! Although I opted to go with the 4k/30fps mode because for some reason the camera movement on 60fps mode makes me feel dizzy... same thing happened with Miles Morales too weirdly enough lol. Oh well, it looks absolutely gorgeous and a locked 30fps is perfect!
I've always chose graphics over performance. Ideally I'd like to have both but graphics are always a priority. Half my gaming is just stopping the action and looking around at the detailed environments. Idk why so many people hate on graphics modes, let people choose how they want to play!
@@tylervincent2559 I’m with you on that last part
For me personally, I prioritise performance over graphics, but I’m also glad that instead of forcing one or the other, they finally started giving us a choice since “different strokes for different folks”
@@tylervincent2559 it’s the current state of gaming and the “GIVE ME MOR FPS” mentality. High FPS is a must for twitchy shooters, and an argument can be made that this game is so fast paced, that high FPS make combat more enjoyable. But for some single-player story driven games, there is a beauty to having 30fps, in which it adds more motion blur, which in turn feels more cinematic. I’ve always said, games that don’t require fast movement, like turn based RPGs, should stay at 30fps(hell maybe even 24fps to match the look of films) because it allows the graphics quality to be turned up to max for the full experience.
This is coming from someone like me who enjoys 144fps PC gaming on Apex Legends. Both frame-rates can exist and in some cases should serve as an artistic choice.
People who redeemed the PS4 PS+ version can get the free PS5 upgrade starting Dec. 22 👍
Gaming world isn’t ready for 4K just yet
What about this flat low-res slums texture when you climb up the pillar? Is that also fixed?
Wait! Default graphics mode?! For me it defaulted to performance mode.
I think it defaults to whatever you chose in your system settings.
30 FPS is no longer an option for me. 60 FPS gang!
I always prefer higher quality/resolution graphics over frame rate. Of course if I can have both, I would. And that's one of the advantages of PC - in the future when you upgrade your PC, you can often go back and play last gen titles with max res and frame rate!
It depends for me. If it’s a more casual single player game, and the 30 fps mode offers substantial visual improvements (not just more pixels, that shit’s irrelevant, but stuff like ray tracing, improved lighting, draw distance etc.) then I’d choose the 30 frames mode.
In this game defo 60 fps, though, since the only difference is pixel quantity and 1512p is already more than enough for me, especially when paired with modern AA techniques and upscaling methods.
Some genres/types of gaming excel at 60fps and up. Anything with timely action controls benefit from the superior input response that comes with 60fps~.
Perhaps some RPGs, puzzle games, slower moving games can survive fine at 30.
I'm still waiting for 4k 60 fps.
@@eile4219 Why, though? That’s nothing but a waste of hardware resources. Native 4K that is (not 60 frames).
Oddly I found the VR battles on ng+ it takes nearly 8 seconds to load the 3rd round, everywhere else the loading is very fast.
Thank you Tom, you the best
These crazy prices are making me appreciate how much you actually get for $400.
The prices of games would be much higher when the store would be the only option
and right now you already pay more on the store than the competition for 3rd party games
On PC you have a lot of stores to choose
On Xbox you can at least buy from other countries stores and change it in seconds
@@oror3751 considering the costs of GPUs alone right now- you are way further ahead with a console even with the inflated game pricing
@@mikem2253 This is why I am on Xbox(I baught Xbox after using Gamepass for PC)...but this problem is gonna be huge on PlayStation
@@mikem2253 Ps5 disc is the way to go here
Sony give you too few options where to buy digitally and it's gonna cost you alot
If you can get an Xbox One X and swap out the stock drive with a SSD, you have a pretty great system, even in 2021. Especially if you have gamepass and a good tv that can do VRR.
Digital Foundry on point! Thanks Square Enix for this masterpiece a 2nd time on the PS5! I will be popping in the disc after Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart. Dam to many games. Playstation got us eating to good. It's only been 7 months. Sheesh. 😊
Df never disappoints with videos I want just at the right frickn time lol
Does this have activity cards so you could even skip the title screen and load straight into a save?