LGBTQ+ Conservatives and Progressives Debate The Political Climate
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- Beto ran a 5K for the cause, Joe Biden took a turn behind the bar at the Stonewall Inn, Mayor Pete and Elizabeth Warren are selling Pride-themed items in their merch stores. It’s Pride Month, and the 2020 Democratic contenders have been courting LGBTQ voters in a big way. But although most LGBT voters identified as Democrats in 2018, being trans, gay or pansexual does not a Democrat make.
VICE News put together a panel made up of 12 members of the LGBTQ+ community and asked them about their politics - which were extremely diverse - and who they like for 2020.
“I think Donald Trump is really changing the Republican Party by working with the gay and lesbian community,” said Paul Ramirez, a Republican gay man and the vp of advertising at The Wisdom Companies. “If there was a homophobic drop of blood in him, we would have heard that 20 years ago.”
Others decidedly disagreed about Trump's record on LBGTQ issues, and its effect on the community.
“When the Trump administration, or perhaps just Trump via Twitter, puts out a statement saying that ‘no more trans people are allowed in the military, that’s it we’re cutting you off and anybody in has got to leave.’ That affects the lives of transgender citizens of this country,” said actor Donnie Cianciotto, who identifies as a pansexual transgender man and a Democrat. “It makes us appear 'less than' to other people, who now can justify their bigotry and their transphobia, because look at what the government does.”
As for Mayor Pete, the openly gay candidate running for President, his out and proud status wasn’t enough for panelists, on either end of the political spectrum.
“There's nothing fresh. He's an Obama sequel,” said Brandon Straka, a Republican gay man and founder of the # WalkAway Campaign, which aims to get left-leaning voters to turn away from the Democratic Party. “The fact that he's gay - that doesn't mean he has my back as a trans person,” said LGBTQIA+ educator and activist Jamey Jesperson, who identifies as a progressive queer non-binary asexual transfemme. “It means nothing to me that he is a gay person, because he's also cis, and he's also white.”
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Check out the extended version of this conversation: ruclips.net/video/utW1ItcMeJw/видео.html
Uhhhh, a 2nd part is not an extended version. lol
These are great conversations to have, but can you please incorporate a live fact-checking element into the discussion. The GOP uses "alternative facts" so quickly, at least put the actual truth in subtitles when someone says something objectively false please.
Vice was cofounded by alt right hero Gavin McInnes. After leaving vice he cofounded the proud boys. A racist misogynist neofascist group. Investors include Disney, Rupert Murdoch, A&E, and so on.
Phillip Griffin
Its a fraternity.
If it was a sorority it would be all women.
Phillip Griffin
Also, #Proudboys.
I guess im black and racist.
But one thing is clear. You're dumb.
Also they support free speech. Facist dont do that. Facists dont support the 2nd Amen either, which they do.
Facists oppose the 2nd amend because a armed society can start a revolution.
They are a very diverse group. Unlike all white soy boy skinny beta male Fake ANTIFA.
“Hey I’m Lucy and I’m a lesbian”
probably the most simple out of all of them lol
"I'm benji I'm a guy and I'm an American"
@@earlaweese calm down no one said it was harder to be gay or lesbian
No Benji
Her name is Lucy? I thought she was then female version of bubbles from trailer park boys.
Lauren W your sick
I need to take a break after that introduction alone.
I just finished it and i already don't remember what everyone is, according to C16 i probably need to be jailed for that
Lol too many identities I couldn’t even keep track 😂
🤣🤣🤣
They are confused. Very sad.
I hear you
“I’m gonna stop you, Jamie are you ok?” Cringe.
Who needs guys when you have Cats woah there cowboy! You insulted my opinion are you mentally alright?
I know right... it’s so cringy to care about other people’s feelings
M facts don’t care about your feelings.
@Liliana Penderecka
I do agree with you on that respect. However, I’d probably also do the same thing in a debate if someone started personally attacking another member’s identity. But that’s just me, I guess.
Was there a need to stop Jamie to begin with? And if there is that need, is it relevant? Because honestly, I heard not a hate speech here, but merely a vocal expression of thought.
I'm not an American. So I don't know if that's a norm in the US to halt a person from speaking just like that.
Thank you for giving me a hearing!
"Hi I'm Lucy, I'm a lesbian."
Best introduction ever.
I really wish they had let her talk more.
Please marry me.
It's not "marriage".
Already starting off with an L
She's mildly cross-eyed on both the left and the right at random times throughout this interview. IDK how that's possible, but that's what's happening.
Politicians be like "Hi, fellow gay. How does it go?"
I believe you mean Democrats. Outside of evangelicals, the conservative position has been a more libertarian one. As in, "who cares." I don't need to know what you identify as. That is what Don't Ask Don't Tell was. People mistake that for prejudice because somewhere along the line every sexual minority had it drilled into their heads by the far left that the ultimate goal is that everyone must know your sexual identity, and then must bend the knee in acceptance. That goes against the very founding principles of liberal democracy that requires strong libertarian senseabilities to not step on other people's beliefs.
Unless someone is actively working against your civil rights, which is illegal in most developed countries, then who cares what they think or believe? Move along. Worry about yourself.
Ultra Conservative That's the thing, most gay people I know aren't degenerates or weirdos they just have a different sexual preference which doesn't bother me since it's their life BUT then there's the weirdos who are the radical ones forcing shit trying to make us play along to their delusions and that's when it becomes an issue.
Just like with republicans you have the people who are decent individuals and then you have the neo nazis and trumpanzees who are racist trash.
@@RJT80 I think the problem is that slot of these people's civil rights are be actively worked against by politicians
@Jack Shite Right on! I will thumbs up your comment a million.
However, statistically 13% is quite significant.
I would love to see them nitpick whatever alternatives there are and vote Republican and accelerate their own implosion.
Nothing like seeing people get what they deserve, both good and bad.
@@RJT80 You are telling me that republicans refusing gays marriage for decades even after it was made legal is 'libertarian'?
Bro half of their introductions had me thinking “wtf does that even mean?”
Kaleb S. they seem like a bunch of made up terms that don't really fit together.
Nicholas Cage ikr
@@nicholascage4468 all terms are "made up" and are valid as long as they represent something real,
actually none of the terms used were that crazy or intense
What in paticular confused you? They all seemed pretty straight forward except for the non-binary person in the yellow shirt
blaire white is the only person here who makes any sense
Ashley Castart it pissed me off so muchhh
dude i know
Nah I loved the blonde woman in blue at the front, I love that she is able to look outside the box. I think she was very reasonable aha. Still love blaire though
softlittlefairy bengie did too
yess queen blaire, you should check out her youtube channel if you havent yet. she is spot on with so many issues, the community really needed her perspective
Why did they even invite Blaire white on if she didn't even barely get to speak? It's obvious the people who created this don't like her. Not to mention that Caleb guy sitting next to her whispering threatening shyt in her ear, but that's brushed off because it was directed to Blaire, so no one cared. Kind of reminds me of that transgender who threatened and grabbed Ben Shapiro by the neck, and of course nothing was done about that; he wasn't even reprimanded, yet if someone did that to one of them, they'd make a huge deal about it and the aggressor would be thrown off the show.... They want to preach "peace and equality", yet they're the ones that are totally aggressive and want to start fights every opportunity with someone that doesn't agree with their veiws/opinions. Do you want equality or do you want to be a protected party? Because you can't be both.
This isn't the full video, so I think she has the spotlight more in that one, specifically part two.
Confusing the actions of the few with a whole community is not logical and this line of thinking is part of the problem. Just because one individual got upset and attacked Ben Shapiro does not mean that the community as a whole is illegitimate. Why not talk about the violence trans people deal with at a disproportionate rate compared to the national rate in their day-to-day lives? Enough of the double standards.
Word.
Yeah... I mean obviously trans people are the ones getting murdered. Every day. Everywhere. No?
@@user-sn6jv5dv9s Especially in Muslim countries yep.
someone - I'm gay
Bingi - I thought that you were American
Ryder Wilson omg best comment ever 🤣🤣
Ryder Wilson You sherm head!
“I’m Jamie and I identify as I don’t get enough attention at home”
Eleisha Harvey That’s the sole purpose on why people like Jamey act the way they do.
Hah 😂😂
“I’m a homophobe and my family didn’t love me so I hate innocent people who don’t affect me in any way”
M homophobe? Jeez, You’re what’s wrong with the left
@@irvinbustillos4054 Lol right? And we are supposed to believe some people never use their identities as a shield from all critique?
The fake journalist is such biased. Really? Shutting her down to attend his emotions. What a snowflake.
If the conservative started feeling upset she’d do the same. Don’t strawman.
Hm.. I think respecting people’s identities is more important than stating your opinion in a desire to be right. No?
@@user-sn6jv5dv9s no.
Set up from the start
@@user-sn6jv5dv9s No, not really.
Best LGBT voice on these issues is Jordan Power on Unmentionable Podcast
The black republican on the right is literally the dude from the Key and Peele videos. “We’re not a monolith!”
He's pissed...roayly pissed.
Marcus Seals his white wife is going to pick him up.
@@petergriffin7121 Is her name Emily?
@@petergriffin7121 that's not racist at all
Pull up those pants, brother!
BENGIE "Im Bengie I'm a guy and an American
Other Americans: that's offensive
hahahahaah yea
After this end when they walkout they will call him Nazi even tho he black . Hahahah
Bengie is brainwashed by the media!!
Bengie is my guy
Benji is a paid Russian actor😂
“Well actually...” man pulls out a piece of paper 💀
Hes a chad
Lol you can see what is going on in blaires mind by her facial expressions
If I were there I'd be like🎵 "pink fluffy unicorns dancing on rainbows-"🎵
It would've been so nice to hear more from her. She's really beautiful and is so witty and intelligent!! Whoa, I'm crazy about her. I've gotta go to the extended version.
@@alexandraasbury9974 She is a far right grifter. She is not intelligent and ready to sell out to people that hate her for what she is. Just look at the comment section of this video. Mostly conservative idiots and you can clearly see what they think about lgbtq people.
@@alexandraasbury9974 her facial expression made it seemed like she didn't even want to be there
@@HUNKunit - she’s clearly more intelligent than you.
Hi, my names is Devon and I’m shoppity boop bopping in a skibbity beep bop zone.
Lol
hahahahahahabahah
Ahahah
I Devon Williams why does this have me laughing so fucking hard
😂
Blair looked really annoyed and uncomfortable...
Who's Blair...
the girl in the lime green sweater with the glasses on?
She was probably annoyed by all the RED HATS.
@@invisiblerevolution No...she's the transwoman between the trans man and the gay black guy. She has the long brown hair and gorgeous black boots.
I honestly think she’s tired of/a little uneducated about politics
Y'all gay
Sara Angel she is very educated about politics, go check out her RUclips @BlaireWhite
Despite popular belief, alot of regular gay people think all these genders and pronouns are ridiculous.
I am and do!
Yes
Im a gay man from New York and I literally moved to Maine to get away from these kind of people. They all love telling us who we are suppose to be and how we are suppose to act, and if it isn’t the same as them then you are the crazy one... too much nonsense. Live and let live.
Facts
I agree it is too forced, hence why lost support of Democrats.
The only people with such mentality were Blaire and that effiminate Trump guy (don't care for his name)
The simple philosophy of the centrist
Identity politics is making gay dating harder than ever, not only do we have to still keep our asses vigilant from homophobes but now we have to wonder if we are actually dating a 100% non confused gay male, and as a gay male I want ONLY that, no genderfluid, no confused, no nothing
This panel is a train wreck.
They cant even decide if they male or female how can the ever make a choice about picking a competent president.
@MexicanTacos 07 That's just not true. Why do you people spout bullshit claims before doing any research to support your delusional wishes. There were, and are, lgbtq members of congress and politicians around the country. That are Republican, and easily identifiable as being more supportive of the community than Trump would ever be. Infact, there are multiple tangible instances of the Trump administration enacting anti-lgbtq policies that directly take rights away from the community.
*Here's a list:* www.mediamatters.org/blog/2019/06/21/it-s-time-reckoning-journalists-who-boosted-false-narratives-about-donald-trump-s-lgbtq-policy/223969
Can you tell me even one pro-lgbtq policy that Trump has done or even supported??
ur mom is
Your mom’s a train wreck
@@78625amginE go get help bud, you need it.
Fucking died laughing when Benji said, "I'm Benji and I'm a guy" 😂😂
same😭😭😭
I like him even though he’s a Republican. He seems cool af and is not fucking around with these other weirdos.
@H81234 r u homophobic???
@@applepie8308 Stop slapping homophobic to everything. I'm saying they are weird because they are not because they are gay or trans. The liberal ones slap labels on us and forcing us to get their pronouns right or we are evil if we don't.
Non weird trans and gay people don't give af.
@@H81234 It shouldnt matter all to much. Its good you see a different party and see a human. Cuz afterall we all human.
Imagine shutting someone up because the other party is scared and nervous
I know right? What happened to the good old days when we banned gays on television because the poor Christian moms where too afraid their little (closeted) angels would see it?
JK must be Jamey LOL
that's the free speech that obviously the left doesn't any longer cheer for, now that they think they control the memes.
Moderator did a pretty bad job tbh.
@@alexandraasbury9974 free speech =\= hate speech. & left doesn’t stand for the latter. Too bad you conservitards are obsessed with hate
"I'm Benji, I'm a guy"
lololol I bet they were all offended
Lmaoo
jarol 21 he’s the real one
Lol the trans acceptance dropped by 20% in college because they were getting offended by everything and being kicked out of class
Mis. White probably not
No we weren't
If I were gay, I wouldn't want to be grouped in with these types. Yikes
it sucks and like i don’t want people to assume since i’m a lesbian that i believe in all these dumb genders and sexualities that tumblr teens made up for oppression points
Brisco Luark the devil has been working real hard to spread his virus 😂
Same lol
@@Illigrown Trans and non binary people (called gender non conforming at the time) were literally crucial to the start of the gay rights movement. If it weren't for them it might have taken longer same sex marriage to be legal .
Rational Lunatic
Yep. But how is that relevant to what I said?
There are definitely trans people who wouldn’t associate with groups like this either.
Little boys got triggered when dude brought his receipts.
I like it though, you should be able to back up what you say.
Trump is a racist i could send you a ton of links to his shitty statements. He can say one thing but mean another. "Black lives and communities matter" he doesnt believe that, he wants votes.
@@madzath6741 post them on here, keep in mind deporting ppl who broke the law doesn't mean he's racist
@@madzath6741 I've been waiting for proof for 4 yrs now would be nice to see it
@Ichigo Red you know that's what irritates me more than anything, even Oprah loved him until he turned against the dems. If he was a racist why were they all buddy buddy with him when he was a registered Democrat, now hes on the other side hes a racist and so is anyone who votes for him? That doesn't sound right to me even al Sharpton had his back long as he was a Democrat. Gullible huh?
@chief Mcnasty are you a seven year old? God damn
0:59 "I'm republican." Everyone: *_SHOOKETH_*
A Doge God. Period idk I was *shook* too when she said that
And? Anyone can be republican!❤️
The moment she said that, she proved to be the best candidate out of all of em
Gaby A oh I know I couldn’t pass up the opportunity for a joke lol
@@elenaa6497 Trump has allowed healthcare to discriminate trans people
When Bengie pulled that article out i-
He prepared with physical evidence. Something Republican politicians *NEED* to be doing
@@shadowrealmmedia9448 kayleigh mcenany is the fake news destroyer
@@722Moo That she is!
@@722Moo bruh she *IS* the fake news wym
@@natethebluesman lol you watch too much CNN
I'm a gay male and this video does show we are not one monolothic group. That being said, the majority of the people that fall within the LGBTQ community are moderate, liberal or progressive.
James Foster because sheep
OkieMommy Because Republicans offer nothing to the community except condemning them and attacking them left and right.
@Shadilay both?
@@b.k.9797 Hm, sounds like bullshit.
B. K. Exactly
All of these titles sound like people trying to one-up each, akin to the hyphy people at Starbucks with their crazy drink orders
@Bob Jones yeah, and? Like isn't that freedom of speech? Or are you a little snowflake afraid of some change you don't like. If you don't like it, move away. tf
@@maxwind2703 do you know what freedom of speech is? Because the word 'force' doesn't go along with it
It’s refreshing to hear someone talk about their values, and not use identity politics. This is one way that the country can become less polarized.
It's nice seeing them all get along. You don't see many videos like this where you don't hear someone call the other person racist every 5 minutes
That term “identity politics” is meaningless. Are senior citizens who vote for candidates hou support Medicare voting based on “Identity politics”? Or rich people who vote for those who propose special tax loopholes and tax cuts - is that identity politics? I am married to my same sex partner. Do you honestly think I should vote for someone who wants to cancel my marriage?
You wrote this a while ago. I would not say it'd be less polarized necessarily. We're just made more aware of each other. Being part of the same over-arching community with vastly different viewpoints doesn't just solve differences.
He hit a nerve when he brought out receipts
Yes he did. And they knew that their "Trump is a racist, Trump is a racist" argument wouldn't work, so instead of focusing on the information, they switched their focus towards the fact that he had brought actual evidence with him.
Notice how they laughed at him for bringing receipts but still had no counterargument. He schooled them big time.
@@atlf3357 it’s because most of the video has been edited out. They did argue that
@@salma_Nella22 and you know this how?
@@atlf3357 the black liberal dude got a pained face when he brought out the story, lmao
Are you guys releasing the extended unedited version? This was so short.
Right?
____________I doubt it. There's always way more infighting than civil discussion among these ppl. They can't let the world see that dark side. This was probably the bulk of footage where they weren't yelling at each other.
shmeet I mean I’m fine with in fighting and arguments I like the drama lol
Yes we are! Keep checking back for the full cut!
They never do
My name is Scott and I am fatigued with all politics
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That makes 2 of us.
@@earlaweese This country is people. What you're really saying is you don't give a shit about people.
hear that scott, left wing or right wing its still the same bird.
Scott Ranger same. i think human beings are meant to be so much more :(
Love the man who brought receipts, he knew they were gonna start lying and he wasn't having it
factssssss!!
... u do reaize the central park 5 is racist, and tht even when they were proved innocent, trump still went on ab it.. along w it, he was sued by nyc for not letting black ppl stay in his hotel
and tht wasnt even a receipt lmfao it was just the ad trump reserved in a newspaper to demand the murder of the 5 innocent boys... please do ur research guys !!!
nene moko how is that racist?
nene moko it was a high end hotel and he didn’t want people that couldn’t afford it in there soooo uh yeah lol
transgender, pansexual, bisexual man wtf? Im confused.
wakkinito
Trans- from the sex you were born with to the opposite gender
Bisexual- sexually and romantically involved in both male and female.
Pansexual- sexually and romantically involved in both make and female and ALSO be able to be with someone who falls outline of those two or doesn’t identify as either cis male or cis female.
Cis- identifying your gender with the sex given at birth
(Born male, Identify as man)
(Born female, identify as woman)
Kiwimonii no one gives a damn. You’re either a boy or a girl. You either like a boy or girl.
Brock Kyle are you okay? like inside? is everything alright at home?? 😭😭😭😭
Kiwimonii I’m just fine! I’m in a happy relationship and my life is good! Clearly if you don’t know what gender you are then you’re lacking things at home.
Brock Kyle if you’re fine then why are you mad about something that doesn’t even affect you lmfaooooooooooo. Dear god. IN FACT why watch the video at all?? 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 whew chile
What ever happened to just wanting to be left alone? NOBODY CARES who or what you sleep with as long as it's not a child and consentual
idk why straight people are so obsessed with who we sleep with. us being gay is not JUST us faking each other. and y'all call us pervs. smh
@@feircebrocally4936 I don't think they really care at this point who you sleep with. It's about policy now. Minority groups will say "why do you care what color my skin is/who I sleep with/who I identify as" while pushing for legislation that affects everyone. "Why do you care what I do with my own body" as a women kills the SEPERATE body growing inside her that is also someone's son or daughter. That "why do you care" shit is just a con to distract people from the things that you are often trying to force on them.
@@gtdrummerdude but a straight person is the one who literally JUST said "who cares who you sleep with" . don't know why you had to make a whole political paragraph for me.
@@feircebrocally4936 You said "I don't know why" so I responded. If you don't want people to respond to you then why are you posting on public forums in response to others?
While I agree with the premise of what you’re saying, a lot of the same people who say nobody cares are usually the first to tell us to leave it at home or to keep it to ourselves. Sorry that my relationships don’t end when I walk out of the front door. Sorry that the mere mention or sight of anything even remotely gay sends a look of disgust on their face. But hey, those same people will still say they “don’t care.”
I'd be like: "Hey hows it going guys, I'm Outlaw and I identify as a non-binary tri-sexual male squirrel."
They would accept
You.
@@unrulyst1167 Oh, sorry I "misgendered" some of you out there!
What if I identify an attack helicopter?
Jackson Allen is your pronoun ‘RRRrrrrrrrrrddddddD’?
BLAIRE LOOKED SO DONE SKSKSJSA
I’m not conservative or a Republican but I believe we need to hear the voices of conservative members of the LGBT community, because we don’t think the same and I would hate to make someone feel alienated on the issues that matter to them just as much as we hear the issues that matter to progressives and liberals
I believe we need to hear the voices of LGBT people who enable the persecution of their fellow LGBT people, yes.
@@JehielLyreLMalan if you believe that's true then you're just ignorant friend, maybe try to understand other people and let go of your hatred.
Release the longer version! These short panel videos don't give the conversations context or justice
We hear you! Check out the extended version here: ruclips.net/video/utW1ItcMeJw/видео.html
1:27
*hi i'm bengie, im a guy and im an american*
The thing about being trans in the military. The trump administration has made it so that post-transition trans people can join but people who haven’t transitioned can’t. The simple reasoning for that is the government would have to pay for their transition surgery which could cost hundreds of thousands.
Wow I didn’t know that! I think that’s fair honestly.
I’ve learned if I was a liberal, I’d have tons of privilege, get to annoy everyone freely, and be treated condescendingly, while as a conservative I’m treated equally. What a productive conversation
You do realize there are conservatives who are as equally as annoying to that of liberals?
Yessir
Conservatism is a mental illness and are just factually incorrect
@@fernandovalles7968 there’s radicals on both sides
@@fernandovalles7968 name them
I like the part where the guy on the top left with a mega hat proclaims to hate identity politics while participating on a panel based on identity.
What a conundrum right? Lol
@@1998halflife Wait, your definition of political correctness relies upon someone using profanity?
I have no idea how these people tie their shoes.
@@1998halflife I want you to define it.
@@1998halflife Thanks for that information, now we know what to look out for when we see it.
Politics in the US is a huge Kindergarden
3:50 lmaooo the fact that he brought that with him is cracking me up
1:10 girl you don’t have to identify as black, we know
He's also cis he's also white therefore he may not have my back ? Dafuq
What does cis mean?
@@rajyavardhansingh4491 Cisgender- A person who's gender identity lines up with the sex they were assigned at birth
@@clewgayming oh so normal people? why can't you just say that? Saying cisgender is redundant since 99.99% of this planet's population is cisgender, that would be like pointing out we are homosapiens, like, yeah? We know.
I guess they edited out me laughing about only one side of the political faction in this group giving their pronouns lol
love you girl! you should have got more camera time
Yeah because you're a guy and will never be a women
@@fearmkultra445, she never claimed to be.
yeah because this piece was only a few minutes long, I'm guessing they edited out almost all of it
@@erlich85 she's attempting to look like a women when she's obviously a man
The introductions 😳What has happened to America 🤔. To quote Jan Rosas;
"I identify as Michael Jackson. My pronouns are he/hee"
Stuyvesant Rockwell
What happened to America is that people learned to be open-minded and respect each other’s needs instead of putting their own comfort and definition of normalcy above everyone else
Martín Mejía
You must be one of the Alphabet people. Good luck with that BS.
@@user-sn6jv5dv9s Idgaf what LGBT people do as long at it doesn't bother me. Protests and doing what they're doing now bothers me because it's annoying
😂😂
@@jeffreychou3918 I'm sorry, we will stop protesting fore rights so you're not annoyed anymore.
Only here for Blaire, ngl. She's the only one who makes sense.
I know it's sad that she barely got to talk. I'm a Democrat and I support Bernie but I love Blaire she's logical and a good representative for our community (trans community)
And the black guy in the suit
totally the rest : the clownery!!!!
blaire is one of most beautiful and hottest trans in the world and also very realistic,intelligent
Bernie was not even mentioned?! Something smells fishy...
Ikr??
Watch both videos. It’s about 40 minutes, but they do, briefly 😂 justly so!
Fishy with all dem penises?
I noticed that, most likely not allowed to say
And it's not Someones hair
3:52 Benji: HOLD UP a minute let me pull this out.....
Mans was waiting for the exact moment. Absolute mad lad
Ricardo Guanipa - you have to do that with people on the left, because they have trouble with facts.
he said hold up✋📃
😐😂😂😂😂
@@DiscordBeing ruclips.net/video/PoWmpXP7eAY/видео.html
Leftists: State lies and false assumptions.
Conservatives: ACTUALLY... (shows solid evidence proving otherwise)
Liberals: Really?? You brought that?
I'm a liberal and the liberals on this panel made me cringe, like cmon you can't be mad because they have evidence to back up their opinions
@@neovelvet You are an open minded liberal, and this panel is filled with progressives. Key difference being liberals view people as individuals and are increasingly being slammed as right wing.
he said "you BOUGHT that" as in "you believed that?" nice try though, Orlando
wait but liberal and leftist don’t mean the same thing
"He wasn't a racist or homophobe until he runned for president" XD
Facts
That's still not an excuse lol imagine voting for someone who wants to fire you for being gay and being against your sexuality. Why did that guy vote for someone who is against him.
@@scorpionsubliminals8904 He isn't though
@@scorpionsubliminals8904 lots of trans people support trump
ain't that the truth I wonder why he is now?
If Dave Chappelle saw this, I bet he'd wonder what JaRule would have to say of all this.
Holla
Best comment on here
WHERE IS JA?!!
💦between 1 and 2
Someone get JA on tha phone to make sense of all this.
What does sexual orientation have to do with who you vote for? the equality laws apply to both parties
Christopher Heskett no?
@@splashcatz2891 What do you mean?
This video is about people in the LGBTQ+ community who identify differently in the political spectrum. They were announcing their identifications to communicate the theme of this content to the viewers .
Devin Harp What you just said made no sense.
Intense Pete usually because the Republican candidates are really religious and don’t support LGBTQ rights
The dude that came prepared with the actual OP ed knowing it would be brought up 😂 priceless
This is the problem with identity politics. They spend all the time arguing "I am" or "I am not". They don't even start discussing problems, how to solve them or politics in general.
Ain’t anyone going applaud him pulling up a paper receipt
Most of these people stated nothing but mediocre reasons and identity politics as reasons to vote for their centrist candidates. Any Bernie, Tulsi, or Yang supporter would’ve given you SPECIFIC POLICIES if they had been asked the same question.
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I mean they chose LGBT people so they could give their opinion of the candidates regarding LGBT issues so obviously identity politics is going to be the main topic.
Secure the bag
Yang / Succ 2020
Identity politics is a meaningless term. Most people vote for candidates who support their vale’s & needs. I’m in a same sex marriage. Do you honestly think I would vote for Republicans who are obsessed with ripping it apart and still never took their gay marriage laws off the books? The TX GOP, where I live , has refused gay Republicans a seat at the table for 30 yrs now.
“Cis same gender loving male” wait so your gay then this was interesting to watch
am i stupid
i didnt even register that list of descriptions as gay first lol
Lmao this man is GAY. Nothing wrong with that, just call it like it is. I’m a lesbian. I’m not going to mince words saying I’m a “cis gender titty loving same gender sex loving woman”
Adopted Divide how would we know if you’re a real women or trans if you don’t say cis. That’s what community came up with.
Jennie Woo I’m just saying it doesn’t really matter words wise. He said he’s a cis man who loves men. That means gay. If he was a trans man who loves men, he would most likely say he’s gay. He just didn’t want to say “gay” even though that’s exactly what he just described himself to be 😂
Adopted Divide I’m saying it’s stupid to have to say cis
The one guy brought receipts lmfao
I love him
Anyone remember the south park episode where everyone and everything sounded like shit to Stan after his birthday. This is that episode in reality
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He/him pronouns? Non binary? That's stupid.
He said "actually" and pulled out that uno reverse ...
The ones with simple titles are always the most sane 😂
I am a Green Alien and I identify as a multi-dimensional spaceship and use the pronouns Zerg, Merg, and Borlk!
Protoss
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Lol!!!
Aeg 247 my name is Brad and I identify as a transgender Attack helicopter and use the pronouns it, thing, and vvvvvrrrrrooomm
Do you also identify as a stale meme ?
7:33
This dude said it doesn't matter that he's gay we need to look at the policies
*5 seconds later
He's also cis and male.
The other man with the MAGA hat and white beard said that he cared more about policy than sexuality. The women talking about cis and male was referring to the fact that as a trans woman, gay people/ candidates do not necessarily have her back on the same issues.
@@GibblesGotCoffeex3 Yes, and thats idiotic. Why not judging a candidate on his or her policies alone?
They didn't say male, only cis and white
Stop trying to make it about yourself
@@comradeuro4255 As if this would make it better. Do you support judging people on their skin color or gender?
@@hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247 It's easy to say that when issues in the country you live in don't effect you for reasons that are under your control.
Blair and bengie are the only logical people there
Gotta love how he prepared and brought that piece of paper with him.
My head hurts just watching the opening.
hi im ron and i am a alcoholic and a straight gay boy girl thing
Me too... I felt like they where speaking an entirely different language.
They were asked about their gender identity. They answered the question.
Some want to be called he, or she, or they. What’s so hard to understand?
Not one Sanders supporter. Lmao Vice what a coincidence 😂
Sanders supporters are just 15% of Democrats. Not all is a conspiracy theory BernieBro.
PHTX id say it’s at least 20, however yang is pulling voters from democratic candidates as well as trump
PHTX lol did u make that up? He’s been the most popular senator in the country 11 times in a row
morningconsult.com/2019/01/10/americas-most-and-least-popular-senators-q4-2018/
@@phoenix5054 Nice fake stats
PHTX I’m not saying he’s THE MOST liked but there is certainly some disparity here. Plus I support Tulsi so you’re the Berniebro (just because I said so because that’s how shit works right?)
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/28/18285455/2020-presidential-election-polls-joe-biden-democratic-primary-candidates
Bisexual and pansexual ???? The complicated generation we live in I swear
Bisexual and pansexual is almost the same thing tho
I believe that bisexual is valid...but pansexual..😬people are just creating and labelling everything 😒
Bisexual is going with men and women regardless of your gender pansexual is basically that but with trans and “non binarys” added
Wearing a MAGA hat is like a desperate cry for attention at this point, pure cringe. Reminds me of the "I'm an atheist, debate me" t-shirt.
Levvy More I agree. I see them wearing it in public and they’re all old white people who wear them, and when they see me (Hispanic) they’re eyes get small lol
make america great again
bull, get use to it
Not really I would say. Some people really like him and some really hate him. It’s not the fault of the people that support him that people get physically upset over a stupid hat
The introduction sounded like PS4 cheat codes
haha so funny yeah I mean let’s make fun of peoples’ identities, bodies and opinions that will end well
M yea the pronoun thing is pretty ridiculous , when we address someone we don’t want to address them with words the length of the us constitution
You know I think saying “nonbinary individual who likes women” isn’t that different from saying “filipino man with curly black hair” or is it now? And I’m pretty sure pronouns are only one syllable. Not that hard to remember. Just call everybody “they” if you don’t want to memorize it.
M we don’t address people by their race we address them by their pronouns and I think it’s too complicated
Again, just call everyone “they”. Also, I’m pretty sure most people at most know 4-5 nonbinary/gendernonconforming/other people, so again, it’s not hard to remember.
lol he brought receipts....but fr tho I love blaire!!!
Ikr? What a beast. He got his evidence and research and he still gets dismissed by those other guys like hello? lmao
@@santinilo1849 she **
If you love blaire then get her pronouns right
whos he?
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The pronoun “he” is not in reference to Blaire which is mentioned in the second part of the OP, it’s in response to the first part of the OP/original comment that says, “lol he brought receipts” which is about the black man (I forget his name) who proceeded to pull out the article having to do with Trump and what was actually said about the Central Park 5. All though I can see why it looks as though the pronoun “he” was being used to disrespect Blaire it’s not actually the case, just wanted to clear that up. 😊
I’ve been questioning my sexual identity lately (shhh don’t tell) but if there’s one thing I’m positive about, it’s that I’ll never vote for a democrat under today’s current political climate
This straight up looked like a high school debate with people constantly making faces and talking over each other. The purpose of debates like these is to learn from the other side, not scoff and get offended by what the other side has to say.
Hard not to when your views are baseless
Warren supporters but no Bernie people?🤔
“My name is Caleb and I use he, she, they/them pronouns and I identify as non binary”???
NANI???!!!
"I identify as neither male nor female, but please refer to me with both male and female pronouns."
He pulled a sneaky on us.
Here's an advice:
NEVER go to a debate if you are sensitive NEVER
“He’s white” coming from a self hating white themselves. I’m brown and that really made me uncomfortable
Woke cultists hate themselves, hence why they make up all these narcissistic "genders" in order to feel superior and "unique" while simultaneously hating normal ppl
“Hi, we’re all batshit crazy”
YIKES
How are they all batshit crazy? Lol
Junko Enoshima 🤔 im sorry. I’m not gonna argue with a blind person.
Junko Enoshima look at “Jamie” ffs, he’s hardly sane.
hey, at least they're not religious subhumans
When that guy brought out that piece of paper I was like, holy shit he came prepared.
I wish the moderates got to talk more (as well as Blaire).
She is very racist/homophobic/transphobic, she said herself she hates being trans and that she is still a boy and uses he/him pronouns, also she said some slurs and probably supports violence on minority groups
HE PULLED OUT THE PAPER. “You brought that” duck ya he did because he does research and doesn’t go off cnn
Amazing...the trans light skinned woman who "passes" hasn't been affected either way. No big surprise there. She needs to come out as Trans at a MAGA rally and see how open-minded they are.
you mean, as open-minded as libtards that attack, fight, hit, spit and discriminate against people in MAGA hats? LMAO
@G Mart really? So they beat up reporters but are fine with Trans?? Why not let them serve in the military then?
@G Mart Exactly. And trans people are taking over everything so fast. Schools, hospitals are bending over for them. Lesbians/gays can literally be harrassed for saying they wouldn't date a trans person because of their genitalia/bodies at a pride event. Harrassed for being gay. In their own community.
@G Mart Are you sure about that? Marriage equality only happened FOUR years ago. Conservatives are the kings of attacking out groups. Conservatives are the definition of groupthink. Conservatives never get social issues right by nature of being conservative, the only thing conservatives get right (...maybe not in the US...) is fiscal policy.
If conservatives actually valued individuals and individual rights, they'd be more electable.
Totally.
My names funny joke and I identify as very creative and original
"I identify as ... pansexual or bisexual ..." You're one or the other, buddy. Can't be both, as they're not synonymous. The distinction between pansexual and bisexual is that pansexuals are attracted to anyone (which includes non-binary people) while bisexuals are attracted only to men and women (which can include binary transmen and transwomen). There is a frustratingly large number of LGBT+ people who don't even know the difference between being pan and being bi (probably because some of them keep making up so many new labels that they don't remember the original ones anymore).
Why woke cultists are dangerous and insane, they think they can be any label while coming up with new ones and change whenever they please. And then they want to force everyone else to follow that under the law. How the hell are you supposed to legislate idiotic things that these delusional ppl cant even pinpoint themselves? Why should the majority abide to stupid laws were u can get fired at any moment because these lunatics can change sexuality and gender whenever they please? They must be stopped now.
I love how all these peeps can throw shade with a gesture! I watched the cut version of this panel first then found this one on the first one I commented that I wanted to hear from Homeboy with the rockin' tie. Now I know his name is Benji and I LOVE HIM!!!!!!
"That's what you gotta do these days"
-Benji 2019
Trump supporter: cries about identity politics; wears a red hat so everyone can identify his political affiliation.
That's not what identity politics is......are you literaly insane...
😏This gathering could be a parody for SNL.🤣 I CAN SEE IT.😇
Can't wait to find out how unfunny it is
Your existence is a parody worthy of off off off broadway
G! Force I'm right with you!
"I'm benji, I'm a guy"
Clock the cis dude
He sounded so passive aggressive and it was totally in response to Jamie's "extensive" gender identity. His body language says it all.
I love how all the republicans got straight to the point, especially the "I identify as an American" lmao
All the people on the left on the otherhand were listing their life storys and had like servel different pronouns
I hate the this pronoun insanity. People don't own other peoples words! Same with bodies and beliefs! I will always use he for males and she for females.
@@stevetennispro oops wait I forget: who asked you? 😂
@@itaikolin8264 Who asked... you... to interject? Nobody? It's almost like this is an open forum.
Btw, what part of what I said do you object to? Owning other people? Their words? Their beliefs?
@@stevetennisproIt was always like this until the 2010s decade when social media pushed this pronoun and gender ideology, I can't even imagine what people from 20 years ago would think if they saw in the near future people are saying you can identify as not a man or a woman and go by they/them (a plural pronoun ) it's utter insanity and the worst part is If you don't play along with these delusions you are seen as an enemy
@@Jcon4002 I'd argue that social media has created an inclusive space for trans individuals which hadn't existed before the 2010s. I believe that the progression of trans rights has been a direct result of the global connection that comes from usage of social media. People 100 years ago wouldn't believe that today people of color have the same rights as white people, and yet here we are. Public opinion changes. And have you never heard a word with multiple meanings? They/them can be referring to a group of people or an ungendered person. That's literally google's definition of the word... You will not be seen as an enemy for misgendering someone by accident, you will be seen as the enemy when someone asks you to refer to them with a certain pronoun and you deliberately ignore their wishes. It is not asking much to change the pronouns you are using when you speak to someone.
“THIS IS NASTY SHIT IVE SEEN”
My name is Doris and I identify as a 1969 Ford Mustang Gt. I feel sexually atracted by *DEAD BODIES*
Hi Doris please state your pronouns
@@cameronmolyneux339 You can call me "it" or "that".
I commend you for coming out as a 1969 Ford Mustang GT Necropheliac it is a courageous act.
cameron molyneux I too find this both brave and beautiful
@@cameronmolyneux339 Thanks Cameron.
Hey my name's Elizabeth and God made me a woman. God also gave me enough compassion to love on all people, regardless of how they identify.
Look up “The Christian delusion” and get the help you need
@@p1ant gross… Elizabeth seems super friendly. Keep your rude comments to yourself