Most F*CKED UP interrogation ever caught on tape (*MATURE AUDIENCES ONLY*)
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Wow 😲😲 this is the weirdest episode ever.. I watched this 3 times and still can't apprehend the situation Ryan was in😬😬
ya this is one of the most insane stories ive ever seen
Love you mr ballen
Lockdown carrier
I think you mean “comprehend?” 🙂
& I totally agree. Although it also really angers me that poor Ryan lived in that apartment for days with his dead girlfriend and had no idea due to extreme brain damage. 😔
@@MrBallen 1 reply and its from the uploader
“If you got shot in the eye you wouldn’t be talking to me right now” “HOW DO YOU KNOW?” Fucking poor Ryan I feel so bad for him
Even with brain damage what a spot on reply . That remark would haunt me if I was the officer
Eh
Guess he’ll never say that sentence again
“That’s what I thought…” The police officer, someone who wields a gun but doesn’t seem to know bullet wounds, when he’s looking straight at them for an hour, was literally less intelligent & cognitively aware as a progressively declining, brain injured 18 yo. Even that he had a gigantic bruise to his eye, if all it was was that, could indicate brain injury. Along with the answers & the way he was giving them, even if he thought he had been under the influence of anything…seriously…
There are numerous reasons why people want to reallocate much of the funding that police departments get. You cannot possibly train one person in 100, completely separate professions & ask them to juggle every individual case with the precision each deserves. Shit happens but, we have certain influence & opportunity to have less of it happen.
@@ec9833 Just looking at him, he should’ve been treated at the scene. Not put in a police car for 6 hours. Really awful
This should be played at every police academy. The fact that he was not offered medical assistance is mind boggling.
It is not that mind boggling when you know how little training and qualification is required to make someone a police officer in the U.S. In most western countries police officers require years of training and education, but here the requirements are far less stringent and the people who become police are grievously underprepared for the highly complex job that it can be. It's maddening and heartbreaking that the prime concern of hiring police is as revenue collectors and generators rather than actual professionals who serve and protect..
Everyone in jail knows you don't want a medical emergency because it's gonna take days of batching to get to the hospital
Does the time spent in interrogation matter for his recovery if he was wounded for two days?
Half of dudes face was all swoll up. No ambulance called.... unbelievable.
Wow! No medical. It's a miracle he could talk. Walking talking miracle.
I’m an officer and this just floored me. That poor kid. Absolutely unacceptable. The 1st thing we are responsible for doing once a suspect is identified and detained (not arrested), is ensure ANY possible medical aid is necessary. He had very visible injuries and we as police are not medical professionals, which is why we call them EMS, to the scene and have the suspect checked FIRST, before anything else happens. This was complete incompetence. Whoever supervised that scene should be terminated.
This case hits hard for me, officer, as one time my girlfriend and I were once roofied while partying with my gfs mom and boyfriend at the time. At one point I went looking for my gf and found my gfs moms bfs vehicle in the driveway with the lights on. Upon checking, I found my gf unconscious with her own mother’s boyfriend about to take off with her in the car. He tried to claim he was planning to take her for a ride with the windows down to try to wake her up. Knowing him, I knew he was lying. Especially bc he snuck off with her and didn’t even tell anyone that’s what he was doing. So I told him I was calling the police. Upon returning to the door I see my gfs mom and began to tell her what was happening but before I could get to my point, her bf who outweighed me by at least 100 lbs, came up behind me and put me in a chokehold. I tried to struggle and fight but went unconscious. Well, apparently while I was out, the neighbors saw him attack me and they called the police. When I woke up, I was in the back of a police car with blood running down my face. I had no recollection of speaking to the police at all and my brain was hazy from being drugged, choked out, and dropped face first onto the concrete when I went unconscious. Apparently the mom’s bf told the police that I had beaten my gf and thats why he choked me out and bc she was unresponsive, and bc I was apparently unresponsive upon being questioned, despite there being no physical evidence of her being beaten, the police believed the story. When I woke up I asked the officer what I was charged with and he said I beat my gf which I knew couldn’t be true but my brain was so hazy I couldn’t comprehend what he was telling me. It wasn’t until just before we got to the jail that I started to remember what had happened (I didn’t know I had been drugged though-found that out later) and I tried pleading to the officer and telling him what happened but his response was “too late. We tried to talk to you earlier and u didn’t want to talk.” Again, I have no recollection of anything other than coming to in the back of the police car. I did end up getting the case dismissed and off my record but I never received Justice for that night.Still eats me alive to this day, over a decade later. The only good thing that came from that night was that was the last night I ever drank alcohol/partied. I also stopped hanging around people that I knew were bad news. But Just wanted to share this story with you in case you ever come across an instance similar to this where things seem a little off.
@@jaykirizz219manipulative people like that sometimes get away w it. its awful
@@jaykirizz219 that is fucked
@@Nathanielhiggerson66manipulative? They were psychopathic and evil. The mom clearly knew and signed off on them being roofied with the goal of her BF graping her daughter, otherwise, why would she pin blame on OP. Sick and evil
@@jaykirizz219 Holy crap... This is really awful to read. Another good thing which you can take from this (other than never partying/drinking alcohol and staying way from bad influential people), is that I am sure you prevented your mom's bf from doing whatever he was planning on doing to your gf that night. That already should be something you should get comfort with
I am also just really happy to hear that you didn't get charged with anything from that dickhead's lies and that it got dismissed.
As soon as they saw his "black eye" when they got there to do a wellness check they SHOULD OF IN FACT did a wellness check. He was also injured they completely wrote him off. With all responders that showed up there someone could of taken a minute to actually look at him and treat him like a person it could of maybe helped him. How amazing he is that he held on to somehow help give them the people who did it. This was heart shattering
This!!!
i think everyone here seen in the first minute that there is something not ok with this young man. the police just tought they got the killler and thats why they treated him like this with no care and no intrest in his wounds.if he would know he was innocent they would notice it in 2 minutes.
Shut up
Ryan brought it on himself
@@donaldtrumpjr2132he literally did nothing. He actually literally did nothing. But you. I remember what you did, hiding it in your room won't protect you
@@donaldtrumpjr2132 troll
The fact that he was able to kick it into gear just enough to convey important information while suffering severe brain damage is a real testament to Ryan. Dude must have been a strong person before this happened to him.
Write a song about it.... 👍
@@percy1629 shut up
yes, I think so too. heartbreaking.
Has nothing to do with him being a strong person
@@charliefox9424 What could you possibly mean by that?
Detective: "They shot you in the eye with a revolver...you wouldn't be talking to me right now."
Ryan: "How do you know?"
Detective: "Cuz most likely you'd be dead."
Ryan: "That's what I thought too, man. I really don't know."
That's so heart wrenching...
Yeah the truama to even remember that. And the fact even the officer acknowledges the possibility of him surviving and yet he doesn't inspect that to be the truth. (I also feel that would make sense due to brain trauma)
@@2BsYummySoles I mean I am frustrated too at the cops, but I more frustrated with the officers who were at the scene then the detective who was given leads on the case by those officers. And being shot in the head is usually fatal so it is hard to believe, I am just glad the detective figured out what happen at all.
This one. 😪
Well, wan't Carl Grimes shot in the eye in The Walking Dead, he survived... Yes, I know it was just a TV show.
Didn’t 50 cent get shot in the face too and he survived.
This is one of the saddest stories I have ever heard. Told brilliantly as usual by John.
Oh man, this one broke my heart. Bring an old man to tears with a story like that.
the way his brain managed to snap back into reality for just a few seconds after learning that heather had passed away. my god that is heartbreaking.
@Pisha Pye I saw this story last week in this channel. It was so fucked up
@Miles Doyle
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The bleak sterility of these buds belies their fragrance. A pestilence that permeates the vastest plains with frightful odours. Among these foetid marshes wanes the echo of a promise. Hope stumbles amidst the solitary shades and lose substance. Facing the glowing darkness whilst ravens croak for doom. The other worlds on high sent us a harbinger. Ignis ardéns - He breathed on them, and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost. What pleasure of inconceivable purity there is in being an object of abhorrence. For the sole being to whom destiny links my life. The rupture is too profound to stand up. Nothing remains but a terrified consolation. In a laughable renunciation that is not the one of a single man.
Thou art not dead to the devoration of sin!
Every human being not going to the extreme limit is the servant or the enemy of man and the accomplice of a nameless obscenity.
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You were seeking strength, justice, splendour! You were seeking love! Here is the pit, here is your pit! Its name is SILENCE...
@Miles Doyle Shut up dude.
@@helloproxy Saying that no one cares. Um, I care.
@@am-shak wtf you on
“Bows and arrows” hes trying so hard to remember words… this is so upsetting
maybe he wanted to say Crowbar, the one Richie and his dad were using to break in to Ryan's house
@@Professional--Gamer I believe he was referring to the gun. Bows & arrows, gun firing, very similar in concept
@@tuxcats4312 I agree. Stroke victims, TBI... caused aphasia often has names for similar objects crossed. Even objects can be crossed. An excellent book called 'The Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat' was by a doctor, describing some of the odder cases he had e.g. people who took toxic levels of vitamins and couldn't feel their body and had complete loss of proprioception (a man threw something big and hairy out of his bed: it was his own leg) or a man who was trying to put his hat on, but kept grabbing his wife's head. One man wanted to ask for umbrella, but only the word 'hat' would come out. He knew he wanted protection from the rain but his brain had hat and umbrella switched.
@Fabian Morales Its likely his brain swelled so massively that his ocular nerves were damaged, No doctor would take a good eye or even an injured one with the chance it would still be partially functional. He had major damage to a very soft organ. That he lived that long with out care is amazing in itself. What they did do was probably a damage control operation releasing pressure by removing the skull cap at that point they would also need to regulate the pressure in his brain which is very hard balancing act of pulling water out of the body with medicines but not overloading the body with salt or reducing the blood-flow to the brain, other things can pass through the brain blood barrier in to spinal fluid as well such as sugar, again through osmosis, and too much or too less of anything will lead to lowered or no healing of the brain at all. All brain injuries are a delicate matter and yes docs make mistakes, but in this case i think it was simply a matter of to much time to allow further damage through bleeding and clotting of injured tissue.
@I SAW THAT what
This is just heartbreaking on every level and shines the friggin’ brightest LED light ever on the lack of training, assumption of guilt without all info and general attitude of police detectives this day and age. This is a critical problem that needs IMMEDIATE ATTENTION AND REMEDY. Unbelievably unacceptable, malicious and sad.
I didn't see anything wrong with how the police handled this.. nobody would expect a man who has been shot in the head to be up walking and talking almost as if nothing happened...
@@jshad1074😂 apparently you'd make a good cop here. Just as braindead 🥴
Don't generalize all police detectives because you saw this video. People like you are the real problem. One apple doesn't make the orchard stale. Jesus dude.
@@jshad1074good thing you’re not an officer. There are officers in this very comment section talking about how negligently this was handled and saying that the head of the investigation should be fired.. The FIRST thing an officer is supposed to do after detainment is RENDER any necessary MEDICAL AID to the suspect and any victims which they failed to do. That is standard procedure for ALL departments. They were there for a welfare check, my guy. They failed to check on the well being of the person they were sent to do a welfare check on in the first place!!! The guy had very visible signs of serious facial injury that went unchecked for 8 hours. For you to hear this story and not understand how the officers negligence failed this man, something’s wrong with you and the ppl who liked your comment, buddy. SMH 🤦♂️
This case hits hard for me, as one time my girlfriend and I were once roofied while partying with my gfs mom and boyfriend at the time. At one point I went looking for my gf and found a vehicle in the driveway with its lights on. Upon checking, I found my gf unconscious with her own mother’s boyfriend about to take off with her in the car. He tried to claim he was planning to take her for a ride with the windows down to try to wake her up. Knowing him, I knew he was lying. Especially bc he snuck off with her and didn’t even tell anyone that’s what he was doing. So I told him I was calling the police. Upon returning to the door I see my gfs mom and began to tell her what was happening but before I could get to my point, her bf who outweighed me by at least 100 lbs, came up behind me and put me in a chokehold. I tried to struggle and fight but went unconscious. Well, apparently while I was out, the neighbors saw him attack me and they called the police. When I woke up, I was in the back of a police car with blood running down my face. I had no recollection of speaking to the police at all and my brain was hazy from being drugged, choked out, and dropped face first onto the concrete when I went unconscious. Apparently the mom’s bf told the police that I had beaten my gf and thats why he choked me out and bc she was unresponsive, and I don’t recall being questioned, despite there being no physical evidence of her being beaten, the police believed the story. When I woke up I asked the officer what I was charged with and he said I beat my gf which I knew couldn’t be true but my brain was so hazy I couldn’t comprehend what he was telling me. It wasn’t until just before we got to the jail that I started to remember what had happened (I didn’t know I had been drugged though-found that out later) and I tried pleading to the officer and telling him what happened but his response was “too late. We tried to talk to you earlier and u didn’t want to talk.” Again, I have no recollection of anything other than coming to in the back of the police car. I did end up getting the case dismissed and off my record but I never received Justice for that night.Still eats me alive to this day.
I'm a brain injury survivor, but my injury didn't come from a violent act. My injury came from a virus infection. My heart goes out to Ryan's parents and his true friends.
After being told that his girlfriend is dead. His love for her was the only thing that brought him back to normal. Even for a few seconds.
L by
That is so true! Im glad he remembered to be able to get the guys in prison. Such a shame 💔
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@@Ilovemydogmorethanlife ya'll cringe callers will label anything north of opening a door for someone "CrINge" lmao it's like...kinda cringe dude
Ryan: I got shot in the eye, man.
Cop: no you didn't.
Ryan: How do you know?
***truest sh*t ever***
Wow...i just now remembered that part.
That hits
Right!
Factsss
He damn sure told him exactly what happened
The cops said if you got shot in the face you would be dead and Ryan said how do you know ?
That was the biggest twist yet! Seen probably 95% of your videos and that I DID NOT see coming!!!
I had no clue he had died from a siezure, I had known about this story, but man this story is upsetting the more I learn about it.
The fact that he was so innocent/brain damaged that he handcuffed HIMSELF to the table is heartbreaking
Omg I forgot about that😢
@@howardkleger WOW! This comment went COMPLETELY over your head!
@UCWPBTajtajHUeorjaV10ArQ what a weirdo
@@howardkleger you're looking at this with too much logic my dude. Think about it
He was shot in the face
Anyone in there right mind would be screaming for medical care not handcuffing themselves to a table.
@@thecosmicalien7891 Well he wasn't in his right mind due to brain damage exacerbated by not getting medical care for 2 days, which in itself was likely due said brain damage.
“If they shot you in the eye with a revolver you wouldn’t be talking to me anymore.”
“How do you know???”
So sad….
They've clearly never heard of Phineas Gage.
How can someone hear a person with a massive eye injury say "They shot me in the eye" and not AT LEAST just lean forward to take a closer look? How do they just conclude "well that's clearly nonsense" and carry on?!
IKR? People have survived being shot in the head before. All depends on where the bullet goes. Brain injuries aren't always instantly fatal.
Yes this part hurts to hear
@@MagpieRat theres a live pd episode of some african american man getting shot through the eye he didnt know until he got in the ambulance and the paramedic discovered that he couldnt see throught his eye yet he was blind in the eye so the man had no idea he was shot through the skull through the side of his eye
Of ALL the RUclips creators, your demeanor and your voice are my absolute favorite! 100% fan for life!!
FYI: John Allen is his full name.
This is unbelievably frustrating. The most common thing in almost every story that I’ve heard from Ballen and dozens of other people is negligence. Negligence, ego, or lack of common sense is the gas that drives almost every single one of these situations. How the hell do you miss freakin bullet holes in a persons face?! How the hell does no one get punished for stuff like this?! Why does no one ever get truly punished for this crap?!
Ryan made sure he kept his brain working long enough to tell who did it, badass kid. RIP to both.
You question if they should of just left the bullet in his head?
@@bretth4988 no he’s saying that this kid survived long enough to tell the cops who did it, he’s not endorsing the cops, he’s endorsing the kids actions
The fact he could even remember is amazing. The front temporal lobes have A LOT to do with memory of events.
scary to think he could've been falseley evicted if heather was the only one they shot
@@tracyminajjjj convicted
Can we take a moment to recognize how absolutely tough this kid was
Or insane, he was completely out of his mind, and the cops figured they could use this fact to make it easier for them.
@@HaidenG39 Did you even watch the whole video?
@@HaidenG39 He wasn't out of his mind, you moron. He was shot in the head by a criminal.
@@JadonHale Probably not lmao
explain where you get the idea that "this kid" was "absolutely tough"? What makes you think he was so tough?
I just found this channel after seeing John on an interview and now I’m binge watching all the videos. Seriously don’t know how it took me this long.
Do you have a link to the full interview? Thanks! 😊
@@christinefigari9805 I just replied with the link but it looks like YT didn’t like that. I believe it was on The Iced Coffee Hour with Graham Stephen
Shawn ryan one?
I love how you giggle at yourself and your videos are fantastic love watching them you do an amazing job!❤
The fact that he spent atleast two days just walking around the house thinking his girlfriend was sleeping was seriously sad. What he went through was horrendous.
Edit: holy crap, thanks for all the likes! Stay safe out there guys 🤍
This reminded me of that story MrBallen also covered where the son slain his family with a hatchet and the dad that had the most severe injury to the head still got up his bed, did his daily routine, went out grab the newspaper and as soon as he walked back in the front door, he died.
When he realized she was dead after being told it truly is almost like the brain was able to register what was just said and better able to explain what happend. It’s crazy that brain damage of that level could some how be taken over by the inner mind and allow for him to remember enough to make it more clear. Its crazy to think that he was able to speak at all given the trauma he received to his skull and brain
@@chrisancola Yes, I hadn't remembered that. The poor guy got ready for work. Even had a shave.
@@chrisancola Which video is that?
@@chrisancola yeh what video?
Detective : ''It is a bb gun?''
Ryan : ''No! It was a real gun man ! It was just a revolver! ''
Detective : ''If they shot you in the eye with revolver you wouldn't be talking to me right now.''
Ryan : ''How do you know? ''
Detective : ''Because most likely you'd be dead.''
Ryan : '' That's what i thought too man, i really don't know.''
BRUH this shit insane 😟
I wonder how detective felt after he knew that all the kid told was true.
I would've felt horrible and I'm sure Dalton did, too. I think it's more the police officers fault that they told Dalton he was the killer and that he had to get information from him.
This whole situation is fucked man.
The detective probably felt like a steaming pile after that.
Unfortunately, that's how the system works. A detective makes an initial assumption about what happened, then it is their job to do whatever they can to obtain information that backs their initial assumption. A lot of people are falsely charged based on such assumptions. Authorities hate to admit when they're wrong. They tend to view everything as black and white when that often is not the case.
They didnt care! If they run into this again, they’d act the same way!
I used to be ALL ABOUT blue lives matter but ive been watching interrogation videos for about 8 months now, and these cops/detective will SAY ANYTHING, and theyll HIDE ANYTHING!
I love how detailed you get with these stories. You're an awesome story teller. I'm watching ALL your videos. Starting from the most popular ones.. I've seen about 10 already. Anyways, just wanted to wish you the best. BTW I don't know if you've done a video about the death of Junko Furuta but I think it'd be awesome to hear the story from you. Cheers!
I heard this on another RUclips channel once but the way you told it is so different I didn’t even realize until halfway through. Wow 👏🏼
This is why we need to uphold "Innocent until proven guilty" principle
Agreed!!!! Enough with police brutality! My mom called police for help because a man attacked her and they interrogated her for over an hour before they got her medical care stitches and a neighbor finally came forward to corroborate her account wordfor word because the police came so fast her attacker whom she had never met said she was his girlfriend and was on drugs and had attacked HIM! They all but had handcuffs on her before the neighbor who saw the whole thing came out. My mom was in shock needed stitches all beat up and they treated her as guilty! Enough is enough!
Its more like
"GUILTY until proven INNOCENT"!!!
EXACTLY!!
Innocent until proven guilty is a joke. If you are accused of a crime you are often put in jail or put on pretrial probation, you then have to pay for a lawyer or pay court fees. When everything is said and done you could end up paying hundreds of dollars and fighting your case from jail for months or even years Often losing your house apartment car and job. And end up being completely innocent.
@firestarr78 The person who shot him in the face twice, before then killing the other victim and robbing the house, is to blame.
One of the things I’m more surprised of is the fact that he had the strength to speak with so much pain in him.
Several hours too.
Shock. He was probably in shock and when your body sustains that much pain and damage you can’t feel it. When my appendix burst I didn’t feel the pain. I was in pain but I didn’t realize it. My brain couldn’t comprehend the pain.
@@spookyblookie3499 Yeah, now that I think of it, I had a teacher that suddenly got her arm trapped inside a potato machine, and she was so in shock and such a panic mode that she just yanked her arm out of the machine which saved her arm, and life.
She said she was so in shock that she couldn’t comprehend the situation she was in. Why was that just suddenly happening to her?. Just utter shock.
She said there was just a random innocent potato right there, so she decided to take it, and the horrific accident happened.
@@monicazeng7262 to be honest the guy looked completely out of it.He didn't remember what happened most of the time.I think shock is when you know your situation but guy didn't know his girlfriend passed away,and walk the house 2days.
Based on where he was shot he would have lost partial speech, majority emotional response, possibly some smelling, and a decent chunk of pain response.
by far one of the craziest videos ever. 100% your craziest. he was literally telling truth.
“if they shot you in the eye, then you’d be dead”
“I don’t know man, I thought so too”
that’s crazy !
I have read the family did file a lawsuit, but it was dismissed on a technicality. The city hired an expert witness who claimed the delay in treatment did not change the outcome of Ryan's medical condition, so the judge granted the City of Phoenix's Motion for Dismissal. The family subsequently found other "expert witnesses" (after the dismissal) who all claim that it did.
Also other reports say that Ryan and his girlfriend Heather actually did not know Richie Carver, but that Richie Carver had lived at the property prior to Ryan and Heather. The prior gun altercation with Richie Carver was between him and a guy named Eric who was his roommate at the property. Eric had kicked Richie out and the altercation between Richie and Eric supposedly was over Richie showing up and "snooping" around the property after he was kicked out. Eric allegedly threatened Richie with a gun if he kept showing up.
Ryan moved in replacing Richie as Eric's roommate. Ryan only met Richie Carver briefly two times, once when Richie showed up to get some mail which had not been forwarded to him and another time when Richie was found snooping around the back yard claiming to be looking for his pet iguana. Heather actually never met Richie Carver as these occurred before she moved in (so while Eric was Ryan's roommate; not certain if this was prior to or after Eric threatening Richie with the gun for lurking about the property).
Later Eric moved out himself and Heather moved in (so Richie Carver and Ryan had both been roommates with Eric but not simultaneously; Ryan and Richie Carver were never roommates). Ryan, Heather and another young lady named Alicia then resided at the property at the time of the attack. The media however had learned Richie previously lived there and that there had been a prior altercation involving a gun and presented it as between Richie and Ryan (because they thought it explained why the crime occurred) when it actually was between Richie and Eric after Richie had been kicked out. The media's rush to get the sensational story published and to scoop other outlets caused them not to thoroughly fact check.
Also it appears Ryan only owned one small handgun, not a collection of guns, and that it was not taken during the Carver's robbery of the residence.
There are claims that the police "changed the date" of the attack from Christmas Day to Dec 23rd (or tried to) to cover up their medical negligence to Ryan Waller. To imply that having occurred two days earlier, by the time they took Ryan into custody, it was too late to prevent his medical outcome. Whereas if the attack occurred on Christmas Day, then taking Ryan into custody at midnight (Christmas Day/Dec 26th) and not getting him immediate medical attention clearly would affect the medical outcome to Ryan. This also played into the dismissal of the lawsuit since if the police did not discover Ryan until 2 days after the shooting that would mean the damage was already gone too far to have been prevented by medical attention. There are reports that Ryan was helping remodel a bathroom at his parents on December 23rd and Cheryl Carver's (the mother/wife of the preparators) testimony was that it occurred on Christmas Day not the 23rd. Also the doctor treating Ryan Waller at the hospital after the police finally got him medical attention said the injuries to Ryan were "fresh" and there were no signs of injuries being days old. Plus, the third roommate, Alicia, supposedly claims to have seen Ryan and Heather alive on December 24th.
{As an aside, she was not home at the time of the attack and arrived home after midnight (so the very early AM of Dec 26th). She assumed Ryan and Heather were asleep, so she did not turn on the lights and she went straight to her room and to bed. She was awoken by the police knocking on the door and it was she who actually answered the door and let police in not Ryan. The police had previously arrived earlier, around midnight but then waited to get a warrant to enter the property when no one responded to knocks on the door. Since Alicia is not reported as seeing see police cars when she arrived home this implies that police left and later returned when she answered.}
Also a "witness" (possibly the aforementioned Eric or Alicia) immediately told police that they should look at Richie Carver, but the witness was ignored because the police immediately decided it was domestic violence. This witness told police this while they had Ryan in custody, possibly while he was in the back of the police car.
I did not intend this to be so long, but I discovered the other info while checking on the lawsuit before posting. Given how fascinating the case is, I thought I would share the extra information I found.
Ryan was our son and we want to thank you so much for taking the time to share this information about what really happened to Ryan and Heather. There is so much misinformation out there and most of it was perpetrated by the Phoenix Police Department so that they could cover up their negligence. ❤❤
@chriss3276, thank you.😢❤
@@thewallerfamily9134I didn't expect to find a member of his family on the internet. My sincere condolences. May Ryan be in a better place now and may God comfort your family. Much love from Brazil❤
@@caiopoggers Thank you❤️
Thank you for this information ❤
I’m also just shocked that poor Ryan went to sleep several times and still woke up and was even walking, carrying on a conversation at all. His poor family... RIP Ryan and Heather.
I'm curious how anyone knows what he did inside the house for sure. Even if he said he went to sleep, did he really just as was stated or did he think he did but didn't. Too bad he wasn't given immediate medical attention as he should have. Cops have to do better than this. That eye does not look like a girl punched him, it looks more like he got whacked with a hammer.
@@mytrigger5613 Even if it was just "a girl punched him", not giving medical attention is immoral and everyone is innocent until proven guilty, it's not the job of the police to punish someone by letting him suffer by denying medical assistance.
@@Derzull2468 100% agreed
@@mytrigger5613 did you even watch the video lol
@@mytrigger5613 since Heather died I think they could just estimate how many days the body had been dead for and surmise how long Ryan’s just been there
Just when i thought I'd seen every kind of police interview... this one is absolutely worthy of the title mate excellent storytelling as always!
This story fucks with me in a way that few stories do. Just thinking of that poor kid wandering around for two days not knowing how to help himself or his girlfriend. Just knowing something isn’t right and his head hurts. I’ve had that kind of confusion a couple times in my life and it is so scary.
This is what happens when cops are trying so hard to quickly solve a case that they ignore evidence right in front of their eyes. What a miserable event. Poor kid.
Let’s not forget how miserable those killers were. This kid was mostly saved by his father. He gave him an extra 10 years of life by filing the welfare check.
This is classic Phoenix PD work. Of course… they literally have done so many horrible things… I mean.. Arpaio was the sherif for over a decade
This is also what happens when a Cop tries to play a Doctor (the first Officers at the scene noted injuries, but nothing serious), and downplay injuries without getting a professional's opinion because it cuts into time and everybody's patience. Take him to interrogation, get a confession; then call it a day. This is why I'm glad to see more instances of Departments and even individual Cops being held accountable for their actions, it forces everyone to take a step back to examine the person and the environment before proceeding with business/investigation...
Well two days with brain injury weren’t critical but the last few hours ? I wonder if the father called for welfare 3 days later who you blame than ?
They could have handled it better. But to be fair, the chain of events was extremely improbable.
I just shed a tear for Ryan. He was brain damaged and was trying his best to remember and tell his story. Very sad story.
Yeah it got to me as well. Poor kid 😢
I didn't even get through half of this and suspected brain damage. My high school boyfriend was attacked and had a severe concussion. He acted exactly like this kid: confused and agitated.
Edit: Poor Kid 😢
I thought the same so sad for them both .
Ya this got me too😞
Same
I am a new subscriber to your programs, love listening, your voice is great to listen to
Love the outtakes at the start. Thanx
I feel so fucking bad for him. He literally couldn’t even tell what was going on, but he knew that he didn’t do it. Imagine not being able to vocalize that
this is absolutely horrifying. Agreed,
Well in the eyes of the cops (blue line gang) you are guilty until they can prove it or find something else.
@@xozegraf7179 we got a saying here, guilty until proven innocent. Take from it what you will
Hell Yeah dude when he said “Idk B” to the question “Whats the highest grade you completed” I was like WOAH! This kid is either Special Needs or SEVERE Brain Damage
@@gregariousgaming6265 that’s a saying everywhere
This made me tear up. Especially when I realized the only time he actually had some sense was when he heard Heather was dead and i personally think that shows the love he had for her. He couldn’t answer questions about any of his life or what’s going on but when he realized she was dead and not just sleeping, I know this is kinda cheesy, but it was like his heart told his brain to wake TF up for a second. God this was insane
I’m a guy that doesn’t cry for years and your comment almost got a whole tear. From both eyes.
I agree with you. 100% he "woke up" after he found out she was dead
oh my god I cried too it made me soooo sad o my god this is just too sad
Nothing cheesy about it. Not at all.
Nothing you said is cheesy, I saw this interview on another channel a long time ago, and I ugly cried. Because he was so obviously lost and so obviously in need of medical attention. His brain was just compensating and rewiring itself trying to put things in place. Him saying arrows over and over. I was screaming at my screen, he’s been shot in the head! How do you not see this? Get him to a hospital!
When they told him that Heather was dead, and not just sleeping. that right there alone should’ve told the police that something was seriously wrong with the sweet baby. I honestly don’t know how you miss a bullet wound clearly visible 2 feet away, when I immediately saw it in the video!.!. Why they don’t bother to get him any medical attention when he’s so obviously altered. Ryan never should’ve died, but I kind of get the feeling that he wouldn’t wanna be here without Heather. Makes me cry. Where I’m from it is mandatory upon a rest that everyone gets taken to the hospital prior to being interrogated, and that should be the case everywhere in every country, so no other mother has to bury her son who wasn’t guilty of anything. This whole thing just makes me ugly cry and I can’t watch it.
It’s really sad how assumptions by cops can lead to victimizating the innocent. Happens way too often. This is heartbreaking
That is absolutely the most infuriating thing I've ever heard in my life and then on top of all of that no one was held accountable for this I'm sitting here in complete shock, anger and disbelief that something like this could happen I still can't comprehend even a little bit how they missed four bullet holes in that guy's head. MrBallen as usual you give a captivating story organized brilliantly but this one was definitely the most disgusting video I've ever heard and I've heard a lot of them from you sir. Thank you so much for what you do. This one took my breath away in more was than one blew me away.
I find it kind of "ironic" when the cop said, "you wouldn't be here right now, if you were shot in the eye". The _fact_ that this case _exists_ shows anything can and will happen.
Probably .22 cal.
@@nebula8893 yep yours is a little more useless with mine just around the same.
Seems you need to be retar**** to be a cop. Are they more blind than the person interrogated? You can see it clearly on the potato cam
@@nebula8893 how so?
@@nebula8893 I see. Well, his .22 cal comment makes sense though.
This is truly heartbreaking. He was treated like a criminal when in fact he was another victim slowly dying inside.
Not even criminals should be denied fast medical care.
They don't care and they never get punished so what is their motivation to change?
@@jasonwest4683 yeah i know...theres no accountability for anything they do.
We all knew he was a victim by watching this episode. But from the cops perspective there’s no way he would of known he had nothing to do with it. There’s a dead person living with him for 2 days. Are the cops suppose to automatically figure out what happened especially when Ryan isn’t making any sense? You would of thought the same thing so stop acting so moral and superior.
@@tygsv4021 Ryan had BULLET HOLES IN HIS FACE. Yes, the cops SHOULD have noticed that !
Thankyou great video. Had to Sub! great Job
Thank you so much for covering legitimately interesting stories and not contributing to the dumbing of the masses with "content"
Exactly 💯❤️
When the detective is checking Ryan's face and Ryan days "Ow! My head hurts" breaks my heart. What an absolutely tragic story.
If the kid would've just answered his questions he would've got a doctor sooner.
Okay, not trying to be rude or aggressive or offend anyone, that isn’t my goal. But how could you believe this man could answer anything properly when his brain has that much damage? He is a victim. I wasn’t there so I can’t say who messed up where and exactly what should have happened.
But blaming a man who tried to protect his girlfriend, got shot four times in the face leading to brain damage getting increasingly worse by the minute…
That’s not right.
Regardless, the wounds were very clear and obvious and medical care should have been provided or he should have been checked, assumptions or not. Innocent until proven guilty is how our society should run, not coming to conclusions and withholding what, in this specific instance, could have been significant life-saving care that could have prevented further damage and in the end, perhaps his life would have been longer or he could have been more independent. Not a doctor and I don’t have a PHD or an understanding of neurobiology so I won’t claim to know for sure.
@@genox3636 bruh he had brain damage from being shot point blank. No way he could've been sensible.
@@briannawidegren6833 why didn't he point at the holes in his face? Just asking.
SO SAD SEEING RYAN SAYING HE WANTS TO GO BACK TO SLEEP. poor guy dying inside slowly.
REST IN PEACE
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T^T
I know it was very sad
agreed this was sad
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This is a terrible tragedy.
It's really sad the lack of traing that even seasoned veteran officers have. Hopefully this story will motivate more training.
It's not the training that lacked the police it is pure laziness. Probably coffee and donoughts are more important.
When Ryan said "ow my head hurts" like a little kid... It brought tears to my eyes knowing what he went through.
that's the part that got me, i couldn't hold the tears in. this poor guy.
Same. Just heartbreaking
Same. That wrecked me.
It makes me sad for Ryan both because of what the murderers did to him and even more so for what the cops did to him. I'm not the only person who immediately noticed his childlike responses to questions which is a painfully obvious symptom of severe head trauma.
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20:43 You can see the swollen part of his skull when the detective put his hand on his head. As someone who works in the ER, this blows my mind that he was still alert enough to communicate with that kind of injury.
Just by his groggy/nasally tone in which he spoke, his making no sense, was a clear indicator of a serious head injury, then add JUST the bruising alone & it doesn't take a 3 YEAR OLD, or a dog for God's sake, more than a few seconds to realize something is wrong & he needs immediate medical attention.
These are adults, too...with yet another situation of $, over lives/health. This is what world we live in with evil growing more & more rampant.
The spiritual warfare is out in the open.
This breaks my heart so badly, that he just wanted to "go home" & didn't understand why he was in pain & how the only thing that made him perk up (out of any emotion he had left to display, with all he must have been going through....man, how evil could anothrr human be, to not both medically clear them both, esp seeing as tho 1 was already dead. Assumptions NEVER help. Poor couple. 💔I pray these 2 made it to heaven & be together again, after all they had to go through, but especially Ryan who could have been saved...what a fighter he was. I can't even imagine what he must have felt inside of his mind/body after all that. He lived through hell on EARTH, bc of evil & selfish ways. Man. I've heard some crazy stories, but this being so preventable makes me truly broken inside. Life is precious, if only we could take a walk in each person's shoes, maybe we would all finally understand.
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@@BellaIsMyBaby It’s easy to say that when you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
I thought he was just high but no
@@4bestcandy as someone who works in the ER? Lol pretty vague. Not saying it’s you, but someone working at the front desk or as a janitor could make the exact comment and have it be just as valid lol.
it's unbelievable. They didn't look at this guy and think to send him to the ED??? This absolutely sickens me. and it's EXACTLY why I dislike law enforcement/ prosecutors in general. Always more concerned with making an arrest and making a case stick than finding the damn truth...so sad.
Thank you for all this information ❤
I knew when he started questioning him right away about his schooling that he wasn’t right. That should have thrown up red flags!
Let’s all remember-as frustrating as the cops and first responders are in this story, Richie and his deadbeat dad murdered 2 young people on Christmas for having the nerve to kick awful Richie out for being a shit roommate. Wow.
People are capable of anything. The fact that the detective is someone who’s role is to keep us safe did the complete opposite is scary
How is the fire department at fault?
@@possummagic3571 what a braindead take. your comment would make sense, if there weren't obvious bullet holes in his face.
Exactly. There's no reason either one of those pieces of shit should be alive, they are exactly who the death penalty is for. The son has become famous for being a pos whose appearance has changed over the years - its good to know he's caught the hell in prison he deserves.
@@Disturbed928 I saw the pictures of his face but my mind wouldn't leap to bullet holes if I hadn't know before hand. Forgive me, I wasn't aware how many people survive gun shot wounds to the head.
Hearing him say “the girl on the couch is dead?”
What was left of his brain, still loved her so much. I’m So sad for him and her. I can’t really believe what I just watched…
Me either.
He said his girlfriend was 16-17 but she was 21. I wonder if thats the age she (or he) was when they first met. It makes sense such a memory would be one that gets kept. I wonder if part of him knew she was dead because he answered he didn't have a girlfriend. Looking at it as scrambled logic one would expect from a brain damage, it kinda makes sense.
@@zwykhg364 I Agree with your hypothesis
Ive gone dwn RUclips Rabbit-Holes?
Last 12-14yrs
THIS is the 🐐 vid.
The minute I saw his face and his cognitive state I knew he had a traumatic brain injury. I called this right away. I don’t understand why he wasn’t taken to a hospital and evaluated immediately?
The whole interrogation he just sounded like he had the mental capacity of a child. He literally sounded like a 5-year-old trying to explain a crime he witnessed.
Yeah ikr, the poor guy's brain was shattered, he couldn't even really string a sentence together... RIP to this poor kid, i hope he's in a better place 🙏🙏
It's so frisking obvious he has a concussion, they knew that, they just wanted to interview him without a lawyer there.
Yeah, the way he talked too. It was like a little child was frustrated/annoyed/bored. And where do kids wanna go when they're annoyed? Home.
It seems like even though they thought Ryan had killed Heather, that it would be police department protocol to take him immediately to get checked out for his injuries. Six hours sitting in the police car at the crime scene? It was very badly mishandled. I really feel sad for these kids parents.
even if he had killed heather, i would’ve been infuriated by him being left in the car for six hours
Absolutely moronic handling of this case. Guy has a black eye and is acting weird, couldn’t possibly have a concussion right? I get why the family didn’t sue but they really should have.
That's how they treat murderers. Unfortunately they made a big mistake. Had this guy actually murdered his gf no one would care that the cops left him in the cop car for hours and didn't give him medical care.
@@misseselise3864 That's what cops do to murderers and much worse stuff too.
Most departments have policies to get them medically cleared or at least examined by paramedics... We can't be sure that Ryan didn't refuse medical care.. I am sure there are many more details that we don't know about and were not covered by the media (muh narratives and all). Also we can Monday morning quarter back all day and of course hindsight is 20/20 as they say but truly we will never know if it would have changed anything in Ryan's situation.... My friend shot herself in the head at 16, she didn't die and wound up being blind, deaf on one side and suffered from seizures... She got immediate medical attention and had a similar experience as Ryan... God kept him alive for a reason! I believe it was so these bastards could be brought to justice ⚖!
The absolute lack of empathy for another human being here... Absolutely heartbreaking
That lucid moment he has when the detective basically says he's lying about being shot cause if he'd been shot he'd be dead. Then he goes "that's what I thought too man I don't know!"
Haha! He was with brain damage even able to correct and guide the tunnel vision blinded detective with simple, straight forward, aware replies!
The "professionals" being blinder for hours than the brain damaged one which was soon after headed to a surgery where they will actually take his eyes out!
Ain't professionals, can't be professionals after 6 months of training. In other countries real education and training is required to fill that position.
But empathy and immersive thought seem to be an undesired trait everywhere in LE these days.
The elites don't have use for that.
The people would have had.
The brain is such a strange organ. I've had concussions before and they alter perception of time, relationships,feelings,taste,etc.etc. I could not imagine how this kid was feeling. He was alive technically, but probably was just there.
That's gonna haunt him for the rest of his life I'd bet.
Yea this was just crazy. Poor guy 😕
My man looked at his health bar and was like ".. yeah you would think?"
The most heartbreaking thing for me is that one moment when he was told Heather was dead, the way his seriously damaged brain kicked into life for a few seconds. So sad man
I agree
Yeah
I've heard this story through another source or two, such a sad story to be completely honest, excellent coverage!
I've also seen the interrogation footage, it's truly insane to watch the footage and to hear the questioning
I like the bloopers. Seeing you laugh is awesome
When he said “oww my head hurts” 😭 Rest In Peace Ryan and Heather.
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Right? I was crying before but when Ryan said that, I started shaking. I had to pause.
@@IzzyLedo I cried for 45 minutes after this video my heart breaks for him. The way he said his head hurt really got to me
what blows my mind is the fact that they didn’t do a medical analysis before interrogating him. absolutely crazy. HIS EYE IS BLACKER THAN DEATH
darker* ?
No wonder why the US has so many prisoners if this is the standard of professionalism.
In the defence of law enforcement, they found him acting like nothing is wrong while there was a dead body on his couch.
So true crazy
Bad choice of words
OH MY GOSH HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT SOMETHING ISN'T RIGHT?!?
Four bullet holes? In his face? Shot twice? At point blank?
It physically hurts to see and hear this.
This poor boy went through hell twice.
You're a great narrator & story teller
He spent Christmas Eve and Christmas Day walking around his house brain damaged and his girlfriend dead on the couch, how heartbreaking is that! 🥺😔
Broke me…. Poor young soul
ikr. That poor guy. I wonder how lucid he was tho. Not sure if that's worse or not... just a horrible situation all around.
@@ArtbyKurtisEdwards he was probably very confused about his entire life and what happened the past few days. He also had damage to the Broca’s are in the left side of his brain. That’s why when he spoke his sentences and words made no sense….the poor soul 😭
As incredibly sad as this is , if that poor boy hadn’t been interrogated, those murderers might never have been found . He stayed lucid long enough to state their names .
RIP Ryan and Heather
What a terrible story
I think it was the surgery where they removed part of his brain that impaired him. Had they left the bullet lodged in his scull, he might have remained normal albeit..a little fuzzy.
@@lordaimelord7848 surgery definitely impaired him but probably they had no other choice .
He didn't die.
@@joeguarino I thought he did , 10 years later
@@joeguarino "Waller would suffer seizures as a result of his injuries. His life would never be close to the same. 10 years after the ordeal he died from a seizure. He was 28 years old."
I immediately guessed what happened. This channel is turning me into a detective. My first thought was the video of the woman who got in the car accident and found out later she was shot and the family rubbing alcohol on their dead sister thinking she was still alive.
Even after the discovery they treat him like SHIT! man, how heartbreaking, they should be ashamed
It should be mandatory to let a suspect who is injured (in the head) to be medically examined before anything else. This is an unbelievable story.
Monique, no offense but it literally is mandatory for a suspect with this kind of wounds to be medically examined. The PxPD were grossly negligent.
@@jaded5559 Right. It's definitely mandatory to have a medical examination. But unfortunately, this isn't the only time when police didn't listen to a suspect, witnesses, or a suspect's pleas for help related to health. As long as the police involved can superficially say they thought the suspect was lying and they otherwise followed basic protocol, they rarely ever get prosecuted. Sad, because that means the most vulnerable of us are not protected.
I wonder how the investigation would have gone if they didn't interview him first though, seeing as he would likely still have had part of his brain removed.
@@SixteenTonesStudio They probably would've asked him who did this to you as an ambulance came and he probably would've mentioned Richie and his dad again.
It IS lmao
When the police arrived for the welfare check, they should have immediately taken Ryan in for a medical check-up. Even if Ryan had murdered Heather, the fact that he is still in the house, and apparently unaware of her death should at least have raised questions about his sanity.
Well, yes.
But cops aren’t just assholes with control issues.
They also lack common sense and observational skills.
Copa don't like to do their job they just want to close cases and act like they do good. You can clearly see the bullet holes in his face and instead of helping this guy they interrogate him. ALSO even if someone's a killer.if they have blood on them or cuts or whatever they have an ambulance look at them before they get an interrogation. It's really sad this guy died because of these cops when he was a victim. Defund the police man
That tells me that Ryan's brain damage was already severe -- perhaps irreversible. He'd been shot some 2 days before. Not much comfort to take from this story, but maybe the cops' neglect didn't worsen him significantly.
@@DeeRio9546 Defund them will help how? Giving them less training? You think offering them LESS money will somehow motivate them even MORE?
If anything they need to spend more money on psyche evaluations and audits of these officers. Defunding them Is literally the stupidest thing you could do. Quit taking your political notes from twitter and educate yourself in the real world.
@@GrammarSplaining Agree but the cops should be held accountable. Their priority is public safety before all else, and they failed this man.
I understand getting the bad guy is a priority as well, but safety and security if the community is always number one. Clearly these cops had tunnel vision and just wanted the perp.
Disgusting and they should be ashamed til the day they die.
I find it disheartening that they did not seek medical attention immediately. His head/face was clearly severely injured , guilty or not.
What a sad story. Blessings and prayers to the victims families. May the victims rest in peace together
This case is a very good example as to why it's "innocent until proven guilty" and not the other way around. Being wrong once is too much
That is only court and lawyer mindset.
Not with all the precrime conditioning "professional" "thread assessment training".
Everything in their work and training makes them tick different than enforcing actual law and keeping out of non-LE issues.
Yeah but innocent until proven guilty isn’t how it goes down
too bad its guilty until proven innocent now
@@unknownuser8454 Well, even 2000 years ago the Book of Revelation said that the Reformation and Enlightenment period would in the end be overcome by a revival of the inquisition in the wordly realm.
#KyleRittenhouse 😂
Ryan ran on two things :
1) Love for heather
2) The determination for those bastards to get caught.
Rip bro
Its so apparent he is making sense. Why would the police not have him medically evaluated??
Terrible situation and my heart goes out for that kid. I hope he has healed and found some peace and joy in his life.
Wait. Right away, I could tell something was wrong with the guy psychologically, likely due to a head injury. It took the police THAT LONG to realize it?!?!?!
Same, people in comments defending the cops. Sure, they didn't fire the gun but would have noticed between his odd behaviors/speech and messed up face that something was wrong.
And I'm half watching it on my phone while working, without my glasses.
That's what I'm saying... So sad
im guessing the cops thought he was playing dumb and acting to evade responsibility
The thing that got me was it sounded like he was concussed and he had a big bruise on his head that to me would be like checking for a concussion immediately
People in shock that don't mean to kill their loved one act somewhat like this, but no where near to this extent
The poor kid was dying the whole time. This is one of the most unbelievable videos I've ever seen.
This is the blatant sexism that men face. And no one cares.
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No difference thatv6 hours dude. 2 days he was in the house with the bullets inside
@@radkouse1of1 seriously? Every time something happens it’s always the mans/boyfriend/husbands fault,
@@naughtyvalues im not trying to be annoying here, but i would argue that in this case its nothing to do with sexism. from the detectives pov, he has been inside this house for two days with his dead gf on the couch. he hasnt tried to contact police or an ambulance, and he cant give a straight answer about what happened. if the roles were reversed, heather would absolutely be assumed guilty. hes just the obvious suspect in this situation
Everyone in that PD is incompetent and should be door greeters at Walmart.
Never under any circumstance underestimate the power of stupidity.
Hearing she was dead spiked his adrenaline and he was able to recall more detail of what happened for the first time. My heart is SHATTERED for this poor kid 💔
That adrenaline probably cause even more damage also
@@Crpz not if you overdose. Adrenaline is like Overdrive, gives the body a boost it needs depending on the situation. It covers unlocking more muscle usage to helping your brain to remember stuff.
@@DaemonsAdvocate I think it depends how you use that adrenaline I recently fell bad and broke my collarbone and I was in denial and was lifting my arm over my head repeatedly and hearing and feeling my bones crackle and crunch around. The doctors say it could have helped or could have made it worse they don’t really know because my specific situation is a weird one.
@@prolly2stoned420 nah adrenaline always does the same thing lol
@@lookingforikigai9005 if your adrenaline allows you to run on a broken shin, ok that’s bad but if your adrenaline allows you to outrun the police or something like that it’s good it can have a good outcome if it is able to be applied to the situation properly. That’s why I would say adrenaline doesn’t always do the same thing. Depends on the person and situation.
SPOILER ALERT:
Rewatching the interview, one thing really stands out:
Dalton says "She got shot in the side of the head and you let her sleep?!"
Uhhh... he got shot in the eye and you let him sit for over six hours with no medical attention?!
He didn’t know that yet.
@@triciasomogyi5431 In that logic, Ryan didn't really comprehend it either. He was shot, and with his brain damage just expected that she would be fine because, well, he was.
@@lillylovegood2300 exactly. Even when the detective condescendingly asked "you got shot first and you didnt die?" Ryan's response was genuine confusion. Along the lines of "yeah, I thought I'd be dead but I'm not." So in his damaged mind, it's possible he didnt think getting shot in the head could kill you. Coupled with no realization of the passage of time and there ya go. Truly an odd and sad story
@@br_andn I have no other words aside from 'exactly'! This type of story is rare. But it's possible people survive from bullet wounds in the head. And normally there isn't anything good from this stories.
Honestly I'm mad that they couldn't see the clear spot on his nose.
But I'm also mad at the guy who shot them because he's just as stupid as the cops.
It's a truly tragic story and all others in it aside from the victims and victims families are stupid. Imo
@@hillario7765 You're not wrong. I just feel that if I saw the hole in his nose I'd have some questions
This is shocking. I don't think I will ever forget this story. Rest in peace young man and condolences to his parents.
In all honesty I wish this family would sue the police department and use that money towards doing something good in the world under Ryan and Heathers name. This is such a sad story man, Ryan is a hero he tried to save his lady and protect his home. It is a miracle he survived this and shame on the police department for not doing their due diligence those 8-9 hours they had him in custody they did nothing but torture him during a time he needed some true medical help.
I agree with you 100%.... The Phoenix PD is a corrupted system. They did not do due diligence and this is another reason why citizens think of them badly. Shame on you Phoenix pd and Phoenix city hall. I wish their 2 families sued them and shamed them. Phoenix pd and Phoenix city hall you are the worst.
Yes, because that's the answer to everything. Let's just have a horrible situation turn worse. Probably learn from our mistakes and make them right.
They’ve tried to, but the lawsuit was thrown out after it was claimed that the delay in treatment “did not affect his injury’s severity”. In direct contrast to the assessment of the brain surgeon who treated him. Totally not the police covering their arses, no sir
Well that's pretty heartbreaking, when the detective finally goes in for a closer look, and Ryan says "Ow, my head hurts."
The fact that he didn't remember if he had a girlfriend or her last name but he knew Richie and his dad did something is crazy. Amazing how the brain works
severe trauma :(
Severe trauma yes, but whatever was left of his mind was screaming those SOB killed his beloved.
I think Ryans brain was working way better than detective Daltons!
What a tough and strong boy. Rest in peace, son. You did good.
It gets really difficult to think about how messed up people are. Ya know usually you just compartmentalize and go through your day focusing on your own life. Then listening to stuff like this and you’re like wtf is wrong with some people.
“Criminals” are supposed to get medical attention regardless of being suspected of committing a crime. As a jail nurse, I could immediately tell he needed medical attention.
Lmao you think the jails/prisons give a shit. Here at my local one to see a nurse you have to pay a small fee
Yeah I found that a little weird
“Suspects” Dummy.
As a completely non-medical person….I could tell he needed medical attention! wtf??!!?!
Yes, that was my thought, too. Was he not at least medically inspected at some point after his arrest? That just makes no sense because even if you think the person's a scumbag you still want to solve the case. The quickest way to do that is to get a confession out of someone. Not treating a person's obvious wounds is going to impede your chances by making them more uncooperative.
I immediately thought concussion when the cops were talking to Ryan at his house. When the Detective finally looks closer and you hear Ryan say, "my head hurts", my heart just sank.
Yeah -- that was really sad. Even after all that massive trauma, his brain was still able to recall events and articulate a story even though his brain was having issues formulating and conveying information. My guess is that one side of his brain suffered immense damage but the parts of his brain that handle speech and recognition of language were still functioning well enough to attempt to communicate with the officer.
Just goes to show how remarkable the human brain is -- even after having bullets shot in it.
My heart sank too. So sad.
Fascinating find! Ty! Sadly, I knew right away. I'm just stunned at how very specific and apparently typical the cognitive symptoms are in tbi's and brain bleeds, with the muted affect, slurred, kind of groggy speech, language processing issues, short term memory failure, etc. I've seen this very thing b4-minus the bullets- immediately following what turned out to be a fatal fall. A family member injured their left brow and same left eye as that guy, but outwardly it was just swelling a little with a small nick. Immediately following the fall their speech and cadence was exactly like that kid. I can't explain, but so many little details too, just the whole vibe was just like that guy. I also cannot believe Ryan lasted even an hour, much less DAYS without medical intervention and with that kind of severe brain injury! My family member went from behaving and sounding exactly like that guy for maybe 20 min, got nauseous and passed out. Even at one of the best hospitals,fast intervention, the injury was beyond help. With epilepsy, after an especially bad seizure I experience many similar symptoms but only for a few minutes, then it's as though your brain is slowly flicking switches back on. To me a seizure really is like shorting out, and rebooting, or when electronics getting overheated and shut down. Either way, even if you're not medical personnel, aren't epileptic, or haven't seen it B4, a terribly swollen and literally blackened eye or face, odd behavior and slurred speech should signal at least that he's possibly concussed and should b looked at by someone. Ffs. Thanks again, John!
I’m rewatching this one again & I can almost not even watch it because of how sad it is. I feel so heartbroken for Ryan.
I've seen the entire interrogation on another video. When you see a close-up of Ryan's face & realize the detective was looking at him for 2 hours, 2 feet away and didn't have enough sense to think he should be checked over is unbelievable. Police should have been sued for incompetency and stupidity.
Agreed
I think they assume he’s already been cleared for questioning. It’s still grossly incompetent. How did everyone miss the fact he had been shot in the face??!?!)
@@freebirddee2620 Because they had tunnel vision as him being a perp and not a victim.
@@lynnenewell2016 completely agree! US police even admit they use coercive techniques to get a confession. Why do you need to be sneaky if you have the right guy? Messed up system x
Where can I find the other interrogation video?
This story is sad, really really sad. Normally stories like this don’t get under my skin, but this one did.
RIP Ryan.
same. I think I felt my heart break.
@@TanyaQueen182 Mine too.😥😢
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