They locked their bedroom doors at night because they didn't feel safe but didn't even TRY to get him any sort of mental help for months? That entire family was just unbelievably negligent.
@@tynamiller614 I know. But they could have tried. Sounds like they waited a long time to even try. And both his parents were in the medical field, they could have taken him to an emergency room. They would put a hold on him until he could be evaluated. They know that.
I will never understand why family of mentally ill people think it is okay to turn their back on their mentality ill family. They wouldn’t do it to any other illness. So sad.
Hindsight is 20/20. The onset on mental illness can, in actuality, be so subtle and easily blamed on the substances that nearly all of the sufferers try to self-medicate with. Their behavior can just seem like youthful eccentricity that's fully accepted at that age as well.
i absolutely cannot believe that austin's family, particularly his sister, just let him leave the table for 30+ minutes when literally right before this he was trying to WALK INTO TRAFFIC.
It sucks how people always blame the families. You're like the modern type of people that would cheer and join in back in the day when people were lynched ot burned for being witches.
this is genuinely one of the saddest and most disturbing stories i’ve ever heard. i feel terrible for the victims and their families. i also can’t imagine what austin was going through. mental illnesses are terrifying and absolutely awful. the way his family handled him was horrific
If my son starts chugging vegetable oil after walking to my house while he’s supposed to be in the middle of a meal with the rest of our family, I’m not driving him back to the restaurant… I’m taking him to the hospital.
That’s how it is; in my family if you go out of line or bring bad publicity you will be blackballed from the family (the consequences of being blackballed are classified).
Exactly @Annie Lolo I can't wrap my head around it. If I didn't decide the intervene during the nightly demon patrols, drinking oil would definitely spur me into action. Who know what else the guy would start eating or drinking unawares?
His mum and dad were both medical professionals but neither of them let his behaviour interrupt their plans...the dad wouldn't leave his meal and his mum thought it was ok to stop him drinking vegetable oil and just drive him back to the restaurant. Absolutely unbelievable.
They made a huge huge mistake, fatal mistake by convincing themselves that their son's bizarre behaviour is completely attributable to his multiple drug abuse; they believed that he is behaving in this weird manner under the influence of narcotics. They failed to take into account permanent psychological damage he already had which was only further exacerbated by various drugs.
Its dumbfounding how after he clearly tried killing himself by walking into traffic, the sister, family, and friends still thought it was okay to continue with their dinner plans like nothing ever happened. And continued to allow him to leave the table unsupervised multiple times. That is so enraging.
@@crystalnis6213 I agree the sister should have called her dad and told him that Austin just deliberately walked into traffic. They could have called an ambulance or the cops and had him put under observation for his own safety even if it's only for 24 hours until they can get more intense help for him sorted out.
Never underestimate the willingness of people to deny a person is mentally ill. Many people are incapable of sensing or acknowledging a loved one is mentally unwell despite the significant red flags. Mental illness typically starts manifesting in late teens and early 20’s, and often times the changes in someone can happen seemingly overnight. If someone you’re close to starts acting strangely (fine one minute, making odd or incoherent statements the next), do whatever you can to get them help. And if someone *IS* asking for help, take them seriously!
Awe of course he was a brave n selfless man but just realizing he called n told them what happened to her before himself speaks volumes of this man’s character
He was brave, but still let Austin get back up and still ran away. So he was brave, but not smart. And the cops, they could have kneeled and shot parallel to the ground into Ausin, with the bullet trajectory never being in danger of hitting John, as he is flat on the ground. That's just basic middle-school geometry: a line parallel to a surface never intersects with the surface. Every human being over 12 years old should know basic geometry. I don't know if the cops couldn't subdue him or shoot him because they were also elderly (being in Florida) or they just knew they didn't have good aim. In the end, people tried to help, but were too incapable of doing so. The dog is the only one who was somewhat effective.
@@JamesMBC So you're telling me you are willing to fight unarmed with an obvious psycho HOLDING A KNIFE for your neighbour? Is that correct? Did I get that right? One last question... are you fucking batman by any chance saying shit like that?
@B Pope although drugs might have had a part in his actions, the majority of this surely came from a severe mental disorder (hence why when he stopped taking drugs nothing changed and things only got worse, eventually leading to this manic episode).
Not everyone has had to deal with someone who was an addict or someone with such a high level of mental health issues let alone the dual diagnosis. The DID get him help with his addiction, they were going to put him in an involuntary 72 hr mental health hold at the hospital and they, from what it seems, didn't just abandon him. Stop trying to point fingers when we don't know what we'd do in that EXACT situation.
So many of his friends and family watched him spiral into madness and instead of getting him help, they just acted like he was fine. At any point they could’ve gotten him to see a psychiatrist or something but instead they chose to do nothing. If I had a friend or family member that acted that way, I would definitely try to get something done. His mom walked in on him drinking vegetable oil and just drove him back to the restaurant like nothing happened? Smh I know he has fault in it too but clearly he was not on a sound state of mind.
Austin’s family is outrageously irresponsible. If my kid was acting like this, and I was in a position of having to lock my bedroom door because he’s pacing outside guarding me from demons, I sure as hell wouldn’t be going on about normal life. And when his mother finds him chugging vegetable oil, she just drove him back to the restaurant?? I would have taken him directly to the hospital because I’d be thinking he’s either having a psychotic break or he has a brain tumor. When someone is truly insane, they can’t identify that for themselves and make a sound enough decision to seek help on their own; family and friends are literally the only hope in those situations.
I think that in this case, the difficulty is that the kid was in college. Not being around him on a regular basis by his family, where they could not observe his actions, definitely was an issue. His peers at school were probably just thinking he had gone off the deep end and just refused to associate with him. There is no doubt in my mind that there is more to the story and he was probably on some type of brain eradicator, but, obviously, those who sold it to him or gave it to him will never come forward. I wouldn't say that you are wrong, but you have a point. Maybe, it was the mother who made him into what he became. On the other side of the coin, many kids are traumatically damaged from their parents going through a divorce as in this case. The reality of the situation is that dead is dead and the dead are not coming back. In the old days, he would have had to pay for his crimes with his life. The justice system we are hovering under now will probably want to rehabilitate him. How, that would be unknown, but he certainly cannot be released back out into society where he could have the opportunity to do it again or even worse. The mind altering drugs were his downfall, along with poor self esteem. This is not an excuse by any means, but my comments are based upon the way this story is presented. It was definitely parental and a non communication issue on many levels. Once he was on drugs, some of these psychotropics, or compounds which act psychotropically, are so powerful you only need to take them once. I really have a deep sympathy for the loss the family had to go through. I understand where they want him to be completely lucid mentally, but you are dealing with someone who is loony tunes. His demonic story could be totally faked for sympathy. It almost looks as if he was possessed by a demon. He could easily be biding his time, acting like he is being rehabilitated, only to wait for the right moment to escape and continue with what he was doing. I do not think wishing him to have a clear mind is the answer.
I too, blame the clueless parents for not packing him up and taking him to the hospital. It just freaks me that she just took in back to the restaurant and dropped him off to his dad; at a public place. A restaurant. Drinking all that vegetable oil may not be poisonous but it certainly is abhorrent behavior. I wonder if his parents were so set on normalcy, not showing cracks that it compelled them to just not see what their son was going through right in front of them. "Here, you deal with him. He just drank all of my vegetable oil. I've had enough!" Thats one possible reaction. But what if it was more apathic? The parents just didn't ha c e the tools, didn't know who to turn to for help. Vyvanse is a drug prescribed to people with moderate to severe concentration issues. It can make a person feel very paranoid too if misused. Or in combination with prolonged lack of sleep and heavy caffeine intake. Being a parent and having made a few parenting errors myself, there's no way I wouldn't have taken my son to the hospital that very evening after I wiped the vegitabke oil from his chin. I'm sorry this family is suffering, so.
@@tibetbill people like you prove to me that there are people in the world that really have no idea about mental health, your an idiot, plain and simple. This kid had his whole life ahead of him, he was successful and was probably heading to a better place than you, he most likely went through something terrible on his own like it always has been, his family clearly were one dimensional and could not understand anything he was dealing with. Basically everything they said to him in this story and the way they said it was wrong and could and definitely did affect him to go that far, and if he was faking that story? Then the only possible solution would be that he purposely did that so that the officer would shoot him. Can you imagine what it would be like to never get a moment of rest? Constantly battling with thoughts and made up demons, the sleep deprevation, how about this, have you ever stayed up for 2 days and realised some things you don't notice? Then some things you don't. This is an extreme version of that and it could of happened to you bud
I used to take Ambien. I started sleepwalking, ended up outside in the middle of the street claiming a friend was picking me up (it’s 3am and I’m wearing boxer shorts, tank top, w/o shoes). I also started to believe my bedroom had a ghost. I bought loads of crystals and sage to try “clear/cleanse” the space in my room. Once I stopped taking Ambien, I no longer experienced these things. Smh 🤦🏽♀️
I did the same thing. I’d be walking around town at 3 am, walking into places then walking out with stuff like a beanbag, a chair and a laptop nonchalantly. Walking home in the most suspicious manner. But this dude was on bath salts. No human could take getting attacked by a German shepherd multiple times and be unfazed
I am appalled with how Austin's family handled his Insanity. 1- They knew he was seeing demons at night and instead of trying to understand what was wrong or trying to help, even just listening to him, they locked the door leaving him alone with whatever was tormenting him. 2- They knew it wasn't the drugs and yet they waited a whole summer to consider getting professional help. 3- Once they were at the restaurant, Austin's family let him wander for half an hour without following him after he almost ran into traffic. 4- The mother saw him drink vegetable oil and didn't think to immediately take him to the hospital like, fuck it let's skip the formalities, I need to know what's wrong with my son, instead she brought him back to the restaurant with the same people who left him unattended. 5- I would be worried sick after all these signals and what did the father have to say? "What is wrong with you?". Like Austin could control his actions and he was doing all that on purpose, like he was a liability to them. The whole reason they were sitting around that table was to figure out how to help him, not blame him. . The whole crime took place because of the lack of support from Austin family. I hope that now, during his detainment, he will get treated for his illness. R.I.P to Michelle and John
I'm surprised that Austin was never admitted to a psychiatric hospital before the crimes. His parents really went, "He's fine. It's just drugs." Even if it was "just the drugs," he needed serious help.
I am not surprised, I live in Ireland and our mental health services have failed people and society too many times. A guy in my hometown was clearly unhinged, a danger to society, and should have been sectioned/helped years ago but it was like Austen, ignored and brushed over. It too ended in a blood bath when the guy finally snapped and after our mental health services were harshly criticized for not stepping in earlier.
Sometimes, parents would rather have a drug addict than a mentally ill child. I think he was schizophrenic which was brought on by the drugs, mainly THC. That often happens to people at about age 17 or 18.
It's pretty ckear that he was taking the drugs to soothe the stuff going on in his head. His parents are highly educated , how could they not understand what was going on with him ? Their reactions to his behavior are so lacking in every way.
Yeah. Actually, if his sister would have just let him walk into traffic, he'd probably have been far better off than he is now. He might have ended up with a couple of broken bones, and with luck, he would have gotten psychological help. ... And that couple would still be inviting neighbours to their happy garage.
SERIOUSLY- That’s not something you just brush off like what were they waiting for to commit him something like this to happen I’m still halfway through this video so if Austin wasn’t even the death penalty I truly hope every inmate that is around him nose and find out what he did because then justice will truly be served unfortunately that’s how it has to go sometimes
That radical of a change that quickly would be very disturbing for anyone to accept. I understand why someone would try to find any other explanation for the behavior of their loved one. In an ideal world, yes the parents and friends would have gotten him help fast enough to prevent someone from being hurt. However, given our imperfect world I understand why they were in denial.
@@ANPC-pi9vu continue to try, get him committed, call the cops, take him to the hospital, tell them he’s a danger to himself and others, bother anyone until they get him committed.
@@ANPC-pi9vu make an appointment for him to see a psychologist or psychiatrist. Ive seen people that are threats to themselves (only themself - not even threats to others) get dragged kicking and screaming to the psych ward which helped them a lot get on track with their mental illness and theyre doing fine now, in this story he admitted he needed help to his family which is more than most people with mental illness can reason, so take him seriously, make the appointment, and take him there. take him to the hospital, call the cops and explain hes a danger to himself and others (especially since he threatened to kill his friends, and then attacked his dad), tell the cops hes acting bizarrely/dangerously. if drugs are ruled out, then assume mental illness and try to treat that. there are a lot of things they couldve done other than just locking their doors at night and bringing him back to a restaurant and just hoping hed return to normal.
I feel like his family totally failed him. When he was walking through the house at night , protecting them from demons…would have been enough for me to get my son some immediate help. Locking the doors and turning a blind eye was not the move here. He tried to walk out into traffic, and they carry on to dinner like that didn’t just happen. How many red flags did this kid have to wave before someone took him to a hospital for psychiatric treatment!
I’m sorry if my son, brother or father was banging on my door in the middle of the night saying he is protecting me from demons he is going to hospital the next day. I am honestly disgusted by the lack of action that clearly caused this by the family
@@donaldvonglitchenberger4108 yes you can, you can put an adult in mental health facility if they’re a immediate danger to themselves or others plus the baker act
@@kierrabb1313 "immediate danger" doesn't mean all the red flags you can clearly see leading up to something tragic. They have to say they are going to harm you or others. Or physically attack. You can't get someone put in a facility for acting weird.
@@stanback2415 He’s not “acting weird” he was obviously showing signs of schizophrenia and showing aggressive behaviors since that is a more serious mental illness, psych wards take that serious don’t justify the family they could’ve prevented this.
I was so frustrated with the lack of action Austin’s family took on their own son. They kept on ignoring his obvious signs of distress. The footage of them at the restaurant shows just how neglectful they were, especially when Austin’s friend was the one that chased after him and not his own father. When my sister had a psychotic break and was showing signs of schizophrenia, my parents didn’t hesitate to get her to a therapist and psychiatrist. It wasn’t long before she was put into an outpatient treatment center. She was released and put back about three more times before she finally got the right treatment to make a successful comeback. And even then she was heavily monitored. The house was clean of any knives, pesticides, etc. It disgusts me that Austin’s family did absolutely nothing.
The dad's frustrated outburst in the restaurant (why tf would they bring Austin to the restaurant in his state like wtf) is on par with me finally admitting to my dad that I was feeling suicidal and his response was "you won't do it" and dismissing the conversation, instantly making me want to do it 10 times more. I'm glad you and your family took care of your sister and that she's doing better. I hope Austin never sees prison time.
You’re truly fortunate that your parents did not hesitate to seek treatment before things got much worse for your sister. Hoping she’s made a full recovery.
@@The1nvisibleJeevasI’m terribly sorry to hear your father brushed off your feelings nonchalantly. I, too, was once told that I had no reason to be depressed, which only worsened things for me. I hope you were able to get some form of treatment and are doing better now. We may not know each other, but one thing I’m sure of is that you matter. You can be a force of good in this world and be an inspiration to others. Don’t give up.
The family clearly witnessed Austin losing it and did nothing. The dad screaming “what’s wrong with you” at the restaurant was the only psychological treatment he got. Many schizophrenics are normal until early 20s then quickly deteriorate mentally. People tend to think drugs is the problem when it’s always mental health. Mentally ill people use drugs as a solution to their problems. Our culture still has a pilgrim mindset and sees drugs as a moral failure instead of a cry for help.
I had a old boyfriend that was 20. One day I came home and he had lost it. He was hiding from the drug lords that were after him. Sadly it was his first time. I took him in to the hospital. He had Schizophrenia just came out of nowhere.
Yeah schizophrenia doesnt manifest any symptoms until early adulthood, normally around the 20 years of age (Austin's age), and the family only noticed his bizarre behaviors in early August 2016... the murders occurred in mid August 2016, they didnt have time to absorb the changes in their kid and react appropriately, it takes a while!
@@frankiefavero1666 it can manifest at younger ages and in very rare cases it can be a thing since the age of 1-6. In very rare cases, and normally that’s because of environment and family history.
@@icouldntreallythinkofaname2752 I've worked with people with schizophrenia in a research setting, the vast majority are males between the ages of 18 and 22 (age of symptoms onset). There was no family history either, and the drugs he partook in were clearly a means to cope with his changing brain... I dont need schooling on this, as I've been working with researchers for years. Thanks though :)
I’ve heard this story before but everyone made him seem like a monster and less like it was a mental health condition. This is the first time I’m hearing this much about it. Thanks Mr. Ballen!
Man this is next level disturbing. His whole family didn’t see the warning signs of his psychosis. How horrible for him and for those who were the victims of his psychosis.
i can not believe how his family didnt do anything. the moment your son walks around at night protecting your family from demons is when you probably should get him checked out
I was thinking the same thing, especially when I was hearing the part at the end with the face eating and all that. That poor family. On a scale of fucked up, that's fucked up.
TY for the follow up on the doggy! Remembering the animals doesn’t happen very often elsewhere. Always appreciated - even if it’s bad news at least we can stop worrying. 🤟🏻🕊️💕
100% As soon as they started locking their bedroom door at the beginning of the summer, shows they were at least aware he was capable of harming someone.
They tried to have him committed at the very beginning. The Baker Act won't allow anyone to forcefully commit someone against their will, unless they have done something violent. Apparently, they did get him to go willingly, because the video pointed out that he had drugs prescribed by psychiatrists in his system.
My parents give a F about what ppl think too and I thinks it’s sad…I do not raise my kids like that..I raise them to not give a F about what ppl think..This is sad and what you said was so true..SMH
Even worse is that they'd have to "afford" it at all. Mental health is already such a stigmatized area where people have a hard time coming forward when they think there is something wrong with themselves, but then to add our crap medical system into the mix is only going to lead to worse outcomes in general. We need a serious reform when it comes to our medical and police systems as well as do a better job at not stigmatizing mental health while teaching about it more countrywide.
Rich people mostly do not accept that their children could be mentally ill, so they ignore it. Reasoning? Self proclaimed superior genes, with money etcetera. They brush it under the rug, so to speak. Poor or rich, mental illness is real and running rampant. 😔
What a DISGRACE on the part of his parents. Unbelievable. Can’t be MY perfect son; he’s only MY son if he’s perfect. Cost that poor couple their lives.
He is staying up all night patrolling the house to protect the family from “demons” and they lock their doors and go to sleep. My kid comes back from college and is doing that I am taking them to the doctor or hospital. Can’t believe they ignored this all summer and seemed more annoyed by it than anything else.
Also especially because the parents had some form of medical/chemical background, they even could have called for favors for their son to be analysed seeing how rich they were
Austin's friend did a million times more for him that his own family. I catch my kid drinking OIL im taking them to the ER even if i have to knock them out to do it. And the fact that the mom didnt even tell his dad what she caught THEIR son doing is beyond normal reasoning.
You're100% RIGHT! She literally saw him drinking oil and just dropped him back off at the restaurant😕 I hope that this women is never put in a position to care for or help care for NOBODY😔
So angered by this story. As soon as he started telling them he was guarding from demons, they should have taking him to a therapist or doctor just to have someone to talk to. He was the right age for schizophrenia to manifest. Everyone let him down.
Drugs can trigger underlying health; AKA teens smoking weed can actually “triggger” schizophrenia. IT CAN NOT CUASE IT but can trigger it and cause more SEVERE symptoms at a younger age. There is also drug induced psychosis. Either way its CLEAR that he SHOULD have had help. I think; could be wrong; but i think a lot of times if someone doesn’t show signs of aggression and are more a danger to themselves and it comes and goes it can be confusing. I have experienced someone being a danger to self and appearing to be delusional but then they are fine and i questioned if i was exaggerating or triggering the behavior. It isn’t cut and dry. In my situation they got off drugs and only paranoia lingered. To this day idk what the diagnosis would be.
I totally agree. Moving into the garage bc there are demons in the home and needing to guard family should have warranted having Austin psychiatrically evaluated. Walking into traffic was yet another sign. His family's response was bizarre ie let's just have dinner and mom just taking him back to the restaurant and no one addressing his behaviors. This was so disturbing I almost hesitate to watch anymore videos. Horrible
He likely needed ego dissolution; a heavy dose of magic mushrooms or a shock to the system like Pushing Tin. Most people walk around with an ever inflating ego that needs a reality check. For most, it would be a midlife crisis when their ego starts to fall short of reality. I just heard a case in court where the victim was a middle age man that thought he needed a motorcycle; he lost ability to walk, his memories, his personality, his testicles, his family, his freedom.
@@ashleylewis4010 sorry but you clearly don't have a clue about schizophrenia and your comments on teenagers smoking cannabis and connecting the dots with schizophrenia is way off.. just not true what you are saying
I’m a retired Mental Health Therapists. I retired from Western State Hospital, (WSH), which is the 2nd largest mental health hospital in America in Tacoma, WA. Years ago I had a patient who, during a psychotic break ate part of his victim. His victim survived but my patient was brutal. He was truly demon possessed. He will die at WSH. I had a total of three patients like what you’ve just listened to during my career. I was never afraid of my patients, but those 3 men were scary. I’m enjoying my retirement and though I looked forward to going to work everyday, I’m glad for retirement. WSH lost their Federal funding after my retirement so now it’s ran by a private company.
Wow this is so interesting! I grew up in Federal Way and I had no idea that there was the 2nd largest mental hospital in the nation just a city over! Happy retirement :)
@@conniecontoravdis1258 WSH is second largest. New York has the largest mental health hospital in America. Whenever we have to go to Tacoma, we always go by Federal Way. After retirement we bought 1/4 of a mountain 5 miles SW of Cashmere (between Cashmere and Leavenworth) and built a custom home part of the way up our mountain. Some good friends bought the other 1/4. The other 1/2 is National Forest. We don’t get near the rain as the left side does but we get a buttload of snow, 5-7 feet every winter so we have to plow and maintain our private road ourselves. Enjoy your evening ! Stay safe
@@cjmiller6741 WSH is a Mental Health Hospital. It’s NOT a hospital for a Sane person or to have a medical checkup or for a broken limb. It’s for people who are Mentally Unstable who are a danger to themselves or others and who have been sent to WSH because they meet the criteria and have been ordered by the courts for an evaluation of 72 hours. Then the patient has a “hold” for 90 days. Some of the patients came to WSH since they were 18 and will die there. On a few occasions we received patients who were 16 years of age, because they were previously at another facility for children. In those cases, they became mentally unstable while in grade school. When they’ve been at CSTC (Child Study Treatment Center) since childhood, when they turned 16, most of them go into a group home until the age of 18. Those few occasions when we received 16 year old children, it’s a special court case where the patient exhibits a very violent tendencies and are too much of a danger to themselves and others to be released into a group home.
It is absolutely crazy to me that the Mom saw her son drinking vegetable oil and was just like let’s not go to the ER because something is clearly wrong. To just drive the dude back to restaurant and act like everything is fine is just wild to me.
Mental health issues probably run in the family because no sane and caring parent would ignore their child drinking vegetable oil, almost walking into ongoing traffic, patrolling the house at night and making weird animal noises and leave them be
All I know is that this kid's family were extremely irresponsible and careless. I can't believe his mother just sent him back to the restaurant after she found him drinking vegetable oil. Just...wow
@@FreelancerFreak exactly. Even if she wasn't concerned about his mental health, at least be concerned of his physical health. I'd be running with my kid to the ER if I found him gulping down cooking oil straight from the container
@@FreelancerFreak really I've drunk olive oil and coconut oil because it's meant to be good for my skin admittedly not huge quantities. I didn't watch the part where they spoke about the oil . I skip parts in stories like this where it wasn't really anyones fault it's terrifing because this can happen to anyone and there is nothing we can do about it and noone is really , truely at fault especially the purpetraror .
Your storytelling is too good! I watch random videos, mostly true crime, while I'm cooking dinner, feeding the dogs, doing the dishes etc. I get so enthralled with your story it takes me twice as long to get everything done! I'll save your videos for another time when I can focus!
The fact that his behavior was so bizarre and clearly abnormal and that the family did absolutely nothing about it for so long leaves me absolutely jaw-dropped. If one of your loved ones is struggling with mental health issues make sure they get professional help!
yeah i remember hearing this story but i didn't realize how absolutely useless his parents were. they were literally just annoyed and angered with him. there's no excuse for that. you can't make it that far into life without knowing the OBVIOUS signs of psychosis. this went well beyond any obscure early warning signs, this was clear as day
Some people either A) Don't believe in reaching out because they don't believe in proper mental healthcare or B) Let people deal with things themselves when things get tough. His family should be ashamed.
@@IWantToPetYourDog What neighbours? He was in a different part of town than he lived in at the moment. He ran from the 'dark evil figure' and wound up in that neighbourhood. Do you consider people who live on the opposite side of town to be your neighbours? Your neighbours are those that live in the same vicinity.
As soon as he started describing how happy that couple was in their marriage and how they were looking forward to retirement together, I knew what was coming
So if he had started out describing an unhappy married couple looking forward to their divorce, would u still have known what was coming? Either way, is a tragedy for everyone involved in this horrible thing.
I'm not sure why... but the part that really gave me chills was the fact that he understood what was going on. He understood that he had lost it. He yelled to the cop "kiII me .. I'm eating people .. kiII me". Thinking about this gives me goose bumps.
Yeah, lucidity during a psychological episode is probably a bit more common than you think - that concept of a patient having awareness that something is _very_ wrong.
I completely agree even though obviously there was a psychotic break he still had some kind of logical thinking in his mind where he's like hello this is crazy freaking kill me maybe his mental health illness and taking over him so much that this is the only way he felt like he could get help I mean expecially when you have parents they only want to keep up their social status and unfortunately I grew up like this social status means everything to some people I personally could care less who knows about me or who cares about me
The worse part for me is that a man was being eaten alive in front of police and they "couldnt" help...imagine this happening to you and you think u are saved once the police arrive but they don't stop him
Jeff literally did nothing helpful he went in got stabbed and called the cops too late. A real hero woulda gotten a weapon and gone back to make sure they were ok.
@@Forgottengemsofvine you are correct. Jeff was worthless. He got stabbed and ran away hiding on his property hoping everything will magically work itself out.
This is heartbreaking on so many levels. As someone who works in mental health, I cannot comprehend how someone would see their family member acting so strangely and not immediately get them into some type of hospital or outpatient treatment center. Horrific and heartbreaking, truly.
It can be very difficult to get your loved one psychological/psychiatric help if they do not cooperate or outright hostile to their family member. BTDT
I totally agree with you the family failed him and then in all reality it's like they killed the husband and the wife because of their actions not helping him get the help him needed , may the couple RIP in heaven AMEN
@@rudra62 well in his case, they didn't even try, even though they clearly knew something was very wrong with him,all the signs were there it was so bad that they felt the need to lock their bedroom doors to keep him out , right then when that started happening, they should of done something, ,, when he felt the restraint for the last time, someone should of followed him and tried to see if they could have talked him back home or into the restaurant with them,,, I feel for him and of course the husband and wife that lost Thier lives,may they RIP in Jesus name Amen 🙏😥
Ive heard this story so many times ive lost count, but the extra detail and way you tell the story is so much more involved and authentic it makes such a difference. Poor austin and everyone involved. Such a sad story. 😢
I’m comforted by the fact that I know my parents would never let it get that bad. If I came back from college acting like that, they’d immediately do anything in their power to get me help.
As a parent, there's a fine line between letting your kids be their own adult making their own mistakes and being over protective. That's putting a huge amount of responsibility on your parents who believe they've already done their job. I understand what you're saying, but its hard as a parent to let go as your kids gets older. You can never 100% know how anyone can react in these difficult circumstances. Here's hoping your parents never have to, or indeed yourself.
@@SmilerORocker you failed as a parent if your kid spends all night "guarding" against demons and knocks on the door every two hours to inform you as such. ESPECIALLY if your child has never showcased this behavior before. They failed thier son in so many ways.
@@TenaciousTheSketcher actually, yes, that's a good point. I genuinely don't know what I would have done in that situation, but I would have definitely gotten up and tried to talk to him, find out what's going on in his mind. Perhaps his mum was afraid of him at that?!? Horrific ending. In my town (a little Irish town) a son decapitated his mum, he'd been saying that she was a demon. We all thought there was something odd about him but nobody could put their finger on it. Again, it was drugs that seemed to set him off, but the psychiatrists agreed that he wasn't suffering from any thing that they could have worked on.
What happened to that couple is completely horrendous and heartbreaking. What was also heart breaking was hearing Austin yell “kill me, I’m eating humans, kill me.” His family failed him so hard and he was practically yelling for help since he came back that summer
GUY went from EATING with family at a restaurant. To turning into fricking Jason / Michael Myers in less then a hour. SOMETHING is heavenly wrong here! JESUS! THE report is just like a fricking ghost story. So much happening the last week... He made a left turn and saw a white light from a garage. Mr harrouff ran toward the lighted garage to ask for help in getting home. He did not have memory of what he planned to say. But he perceived the lighted garage as an area of safety in his terror. He next recalled seeing a woman in the garage and her screaming at him. He thought that she was a witch. Because of the way she was screaming. .... He got scared.. He screamed when she screamed because he was scared. He believed he was a dog at the time of biting her. He was unsure of the sequence of events in the garage. He best recollection was that he drank a bottle of "alcohol"
Austin’s story is just one of the saddest out there. So many red flags, so many missed opportunities to have gotten him the mental health support that he so desperately needed. He perfectly fits the profile for the onset of schizophrenia, his age, his intelligence, his personality. So many victims in this story. The parents failed Austin, and other people paid a terrible price for their laxity.
I got a fiend like that and he is usually ok but because of drug abuse specialy amphetamine/speed even tho he is not taking some for long period of time as soon as he smoke weed he goes into a psychoses. On of the Last time it happen we were watching the movie 36 chamber of shaoling in the middle of the movie he got up and he climb up the roof and jump from roof to roof and wad making some martial art sound .... sucks but when you are doing drug you never know how your messing up your brain even i used to do some i can notice some not normal beavior and now i Smoke weed and go into à deep paranioa (not doing any drug anynore as à result i already have trouble to keep my mind healthy when im sober juste imagine if i use any drug) last time it happen i went to the hospital and told them i wasnt feeling right and i could not shake feeling that i add at the time des gave me more medication i ended up not remembering haf my week end ...... and i was terified as i was gong to places that i dit not remember driving too ) when i realize i dis not remember much of the week end i was freak out so bottom line dont do drug cause you might think these thing dont happen but it des and its scary drug leave mark on your self you might not realise right away sad that this young guys lost it that and i can tell the blury dark shadow he sa was probably the black spot you see when u dont sleep much for days when you blink you see black mark man poor guy it was tragic and some People might not agree but i fell for the guy even he know from what he say i eat People kill me the guy knew something was wrong .. my sympathies for the victim familly.
It's easy to say that, but imagine yourself in their position. Lay aside the preconceived notions you have after knowing the story. It isn't always so clear despite the red flags.
Oh please. You have no idea what you're talking about. Someone that's on drugs is not someone that you can just "get help" for. The only person that can make an addict change is themselves. They either hit the wall and live, and get clean, or they hit the wall and die.
He told his sister he's "half horse half immortal" at the beach right after he threatened to kill his friends if they call him crazy. His family is 100% to blame.. How did his family ignore him so much that's depressing as hell
Right, when the buddy he asked to confirm his birth year immediately felt the need to have him close and watch him, his own dickhead family just locked their doors at night. Trash.
It can be scary, but you can't just push these people away. Their behavior is just their brain saying "shit ain't right up here, grab the meat puppet I'm piloting and get me some help, will ya? I can't do this by myself anymore." It doesn't have to be a whole thing.
Austin dear, why are you drinking the vegetable oil and making such a mess with our cheese? Is it the demons again? Come now sweetie let me take you back to the restaurant.
@@loulouloulou7766 I don't know, but his mother was well aware he was supposed to be in the restaurant, and instead of that he was drinking oil in his place, she got him to change clothes and took him back to the restaurant, just that fact baffles me. Look I dont wanna pretend I'm better than then, because I wasn't on their shoes, but I think I'd never pretend everything was ok, after the demons red flag.
massive respect to jeff, yeah he ran but calls 911 after being stabbed and the first thing he tells them is that his neighbour is on the ground! top man that jeff
None of it wouldn’t have happen if Austin parents took action soon as he started acting weird they watched him act like that for almost 3 months straight
@@Lilkendogamingchannel1870 that's true, the sister and friends too, behaviour was weird enough that you would think someone would act on it but from how many people he had caring for him I think everyone ignored it thinking someone else would highlight it and help but no one did because they all thought someone else would.
@@StalwartShinobi as much as I want to sit here and pretend I would have done more or at least not ran, imma have to agree, if Jeff wouldn’t have ran he probably would have had his face eaten off before the husband got back. My dumbass would have been the tough guy who stayed there and got killed by some possessed demon kid who self evidently was unable to feel pain and acted as though he couldn’t be killed, whilst simultaneously decided he was jonesin’ for a few bites of live human face flesh. So you’re right, Jeff was a smarter man than I feel I would have been in his shoes that night.
@@StalwartShinobi his father even said it was times when Austin was acting weird that he told Austin to snap out of it and Austin started acting normal again kinda like when him his friend and sister went to the beach that day and he lashed out and threatened them it was so many red flags that they should’ve been gotten him help that he needed
@@Wetcouchi34567 potentially, I could agree with you. But I really believe he suffered a brain damage from his football activities. Which made him completely delusional.
What's mind blowing is in the past I'm sure situations like this were just dismissed as demonic possession or straying away from god. religion is such cowardly and disingenuous cancer
I'd love to see update videos on unresolved stories like this. Like I know I can look up the info myself but your ways of storytelling is absolutely enthralling and captivating
His family is honestly more to blame then him. Imagine having a son who thinks he’s half horse and doesn’t sleep because he thinks there’s demons everywhere and just letting him do so.
I mean to be fair he was over 18, so since he’s legally an adult the family couldn’t really do anything to physically stop him, only thing they could really do was baker act him & they were already trying/planning to use that on him after they realized it wasn’t the drugs making him act crazy, sadly it wasn’t in time, but yee the family did still fuck up since there was definitely enough red flags that they should’ve realized he needed some serious help way sooner tho, especially after he attacked his dad at the restaurant, like they should’ve immediately tried to have him baker acted after that, since that was the first time he did something violent instead of just acting crazy, so they should’ve realized that he might potentially end up attacking someone else after that
That's disturbing that after seeing him drinking the vegetable oil and eating the parmesan cheese his mom took him back to the restaurant like nothing happened. I think his parents were crazy as well
No, not crazy, but rather clueless and dumbfounded and didnt know how to address his issues properly. The word " crazy" should not be thrown around so loosely.
Another mind blowing episode! Please keep it coming... Great choice of topic covered and delivered in story format.... The thrill is everything I expected to see in a strange, dark and mysterious true life horror ...
Right, but they believe in gods angles and demons. that why they thought it's no big deal. How different would it be if he said, "I'm protecting you from the tooth fairy", big difference but they are the same. Both are equally imaginary, made up things. yet on statement sounds possible while the 2nd saound crazy. This is the world we live in because we are afraid to accept the truth.
They could have. Instantly. They were not waiting for some BS to go through because The Baker Act doesn't have any BS. The Baker Act is actually unreasonable power in the hands of the family. Other states don't have it. When my family did it to me repeatedly to punish me, I moved to a different state.
@@stevestelly3063 What if he had been doing all those things and said "I'm protecting you all from flesh eating bacteria". Would you say the same? You're missing the forest for the trees. The issue is the obsessive, compulsive behavior. Not the subject of the obsession. Hopefully you see how flawed your point is.
While listening to John's stories I realized it's kinda like listening and visiting an awesome friend tell these true but crazy tales. Not many people have this storytelling gift, but if you've got it you should share some stories!
@@MrBallen have you done a story about the forest in Japan that has the nick name of the suicide forest? Also I love listening to your stories, I have really bad anxiety I listen to your voice and it relaxes me so thank you for your channel
I am completely dumbfounded how Austin's family ignored his outlandish behaviour. The fact, that he was going completely mental, while they just sat in a restaurant the whole time, his mother even driving him back after seeing him doing something completely batshit insane, it's like they thought that if they're gonna ignore the problem it's gonna disappear.
Because he was an honor student, played sports and was a pre-med student at good University. On paper he was golden. Amazing this can actually happen to people.
My experience has been that this is how "happy" people are. They don't worry about stuff or let anything get to them. Their advice is always somewhere around "stop thinking so much about it, and just be happy with your life, and things will work out". They've never had a real problem, so they can't understand how anyone else can have one. Just do like they do and everything will work out great in the end. It did for them, so it will for you too. They know this for sure. You can't complain to happy people, because they can't understand problems and find it hard to believe that you have one. They think you're just making it all up, and are confident that you'll just "get over it" soon enough.
@Youza Liya this monster? A man suffering a psychotic break is a monster? Then you go and make it even worse by playing the race card? The only monster I see here is the one you look at in the mirror. Yes it's horrible that a black man would have been shot. It's also horrible that you think any person who's suffering from a psychotic break is a monster. Anyone including you could suffer from a psychotic break and do something just as horrific as he did. Heaven forbid you ever have something happen to you that your mind is pushed beyond the breaking point.
My brother was acting erratic, running in the street screaming "they are coming". Wonderful neighbors called me about it and I called for an ambulance. He was held for 72 hours and then I along with my mother demanded he be committed until a long term mental health care plan was implemented. Was the care perfect? No. Was my brother angry at me? Yes. Ten years later my brother is doing well and has never hurt anyone. Hallucinations are always serious, and way beyond what families can handle on their own.
Youre a piece of shit & all you did was traumatise your brother. And he was right, stupid, they were coming, and now they're here your government has been stolen and you are this aggressors chattle.
i'm 14 minutes into this video and i'm at a loss at how negligent his family was. Those weren't "weird behaviors." Those were red flags. my family would have had me at a hospital getting blood work and ct scans. At the restaurant, there's no way he keeps walking away and his sister doesn't bring up "y'know he tried to walk into traffic a moment ago. said he was testing his immortality." what a dumb, useless family.
Yeah I stopped at 13:30 because I was like whatever happens is the family’s fault for being like, oh hey our brother/son is going crazy! Wow!… how sad.
Serious-SERIOUS red flags. I'm at a loss- peoples live ruined- and destroyed and this mom's just gonna drop her son back of at a restaurant knowing he's supposed to be eating with his other family and he's just leaving the restaurant likes it's an amusement ride, the vegi oil ... Jesus. I've seen this personally and really you have to make the call to emergency services... Cause you just never know how someone is gonna go
I have Bipolar Disorder, when I was getting bad my patents immediantly phone the Mental health team. (I live in Scotland) I spent 6 weeks in hospital got my diagnosis and am on meds. But I have been in hospital a few times. It is so bloody tragic for all. But I think he should have been taking in and faster than it was. Seriously ill man... why is he in jail? I hope it's a psych one, it would be here in my country
@@liwiathan they were going to, yes. So that's something? Some families are fuxkin useless. (My family likes to ask for prayers, not very proactive but ok, except "ask for prayers" = divulge very personal information to as many people as possible, it's gross). I hope his parents were clueless, not malicious. 💔
Austin's parents remind me of the time I had a mental break that involved self harm in the middle of high school and my parents told me that they'd never been more embarrassed. These types of people only care about their image.
lets be honest, embarrassing them was likely the point. had a girlfriend once who used to "self harm" she just loved the shock attention and how she could use it to manipulate people.
@@TheNitroG1 Pretty rude to assume everyone's as manipulative as your ex, don't you think? I didn't even realize what I'd done until the friends I was sitting with started screaming about it. Hell, I didn't even remember sitting down with them.
@@Ariye heyo :) dunno what’s up with that FIRST reply 😬 but I’m very sorry your parents had that reaction and I truly hope you’re doing better now and you are worth more than your “parents image” and are getting help
When he was not sleeping, and protecting his family from demons; it's totally irresponsible of the family not to have intervened. The dude was, very clearly, in a psychotic episode. The family's apathy is what killed these people. What a tragedy, for all of the victims - including, in my opinion, Austin.
Have you ever been around this shit? You can’t help somebody who doesn’t want to help themselves. He fucked his head up on drugs that’s 100% certain, was it the family’s job to know and fix that? No. I’ve been a heroin/meth addict, have had family members (my dad and a cousin) lose their mind on meth and it’s something you can’t really control. Just remember this - some of these people actually have to LIVE this everyday, you’re just watching this shit for entertainment and commenting like you know what’s up Edit: I’m not even saying this from the point of view of a family member, I’m saying this as the addict. In my situation (glad I never lost my mind, I do think there has to be underlying shit), I would have NEVER expected my family to have to do something for me, it was bad enough I was already hurting them just by scaring them into thinking I might end up like my dad. Again: it’s not the families job to diagnose and fix shit, nor was it their fault. This is just a tragic situation all around.
@@dankone3 yes and I’ve done drugs myself and I’m still sane I think personally it was more his whole childhood being made to play football and having a coache piss him off to play is fucking retarded
@@dankone3 I'm also a meth addict, with 18 months of sobriety under my belt, this month. I spent nearly 3 years in a psychiatric facility. I know exactly what I'm talking about. My life was saved by exactly the type of outside intervention which should have occurred in Dustin's situation.
I hope he doesn't feel guilty for the fact his call came too late for them or that he was mistaken in the fact Austin hadn't followed him because he clearly did his best to save his neighbour
@@meggoldnight That’s exactly what I was thinking, most people would probably blame it on themselves and would spend ages thinking over how they could’ve saved the victim, but I hope Jeff doesn’t feel guilty. He really was trying to help and was being remarkably selfless during the attacks.
@@harrysbuttons.6283 If he had stayed he would have died also and there would have been no call to the cops/medical, and, John would have still been attacked and killed. He did the right thing and should be considered a hero. How many people would have either ignored or called 911 without attempting to help?
The dads girlfriend was the most responsive person. After one interaction (and I’m sure a lot of conversations with her boyfriend about Austin beforehand) she immediately called the police when he acted strange and aggressive.
"He doesn't want to attack the officers, he just wants to eat John's face." That's a hell of a piece of writing, there. Edit: It just occurred to me that Mr. Ballen's name is also John. Must have felt creepy to say; hope he got it in one take.
Sorry but the fact he went back several times to bite the man is infuriating. Why did they not shoot him? Taser and dog didn't work. IDK but even if everything happened so fast I'm assuming that's what they train for, to react fast and save people. I'm so upset.
The fact he kept journals saying he didn’t feel right and googled symptoms for 6 months and didn’t feel safe to tell his parents says it all. Then for his family to see first hand how he was and still nobody was called in or he wasn’t hospitalized. You can see the pressure he had to be the perfect son. I’m so sorry for the victims families, I’m also sad for him. This all could have been prevented. Mental illness is real and there is no shame in it.
I heard a theory stating that in some cases of schizophrenia there is actually a power and control game in the family where the schizophrenic person is under a lot of pressure. There is abuse of some form and unspoken rules. The "unspoken" rules matches this case as the family would refuse to talk about certain topics/problems.
I was literally about to say the same thing. Of course, it's a tragedy for the families of those he killed, but I also feel just... fucking terrible for the poor man himself. He desperately needed help and tried so hard to get it, but had no idea how, and he was clearly terrified of himself and lost. Had even one of his family actually taken action and taken him to the hospital or something right when he first started acting strange, they could've not only saved the lives of two people, but also saved poor Austin from himself.
Mental Health care in most of the world is severely underfunded and under utilized. Lots of people who have done heinous things have given many warnings beforehand and nothing gets done.
i hope his parents get charged with neglect or something. any normal person would have seen the red flags and gotten their kid to a hospital and get help.
There's something about your narrating style that is really compelling. It is like listening to a friend share an anecdote, save for the horror and screaming sound cues that I have mixed feelings about. Fluent, not flat in delivery and not over the top. You have serious potential for story telling and podcasts!
I’ve read this story several times, but no one has covered it like you have. You’ve added details I’d never heard of. In my opinion, it’s almost equal to negligence that his family totally ignored his signs of mental illness, and it’s not like they were small signs, either. In today’s world with all the awareness we have of mental illness, I just can’t wrap my head around the fact that they didn’t have a clue. I just find it hard to understand. Thank you for a great job!
I totally agree. I think the mother was probably afraid of him and that is why she drove him back to have dinner with his father . They really should have taken him to a mental hospital.
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and it started with social anxiety. he felt he wasnt social enough. so he clearly had anxiety around people then they surround him with people? and even make fun of his clothing?!? like wth
Imagine your brother trying to run face-first in to traffic, claiming he was immortal (in a fully serious way), and then the very next thing you do is send him to eat in a restaurant like nothing happened?? Pains me to see how this situation could have been so easily avoided.
Have some empathy. There is nothing in our society that prepares you to deal with insanity. There is little to no support or help or even a clear understanding about what goes wrong inside a person’s mind. Maybe try to put yourself in their shoes. How could they know? How could they fix him? Just seems like everyone is blaming instead of understanding the absolute tragedy that is mental healthcare. Families are literally clueless because there is no reasonable societal discourse surrounding insanity/mental health. We know about TBi, and it’s impact on people, yet football is still glorified. Just try to understand the dilemma and difficulty in which families of the mentally ill find themselves.
Just look at the restaurant footage when he hits his dad! They just gently pushed him back and reacted too casual... It's insane to me how they enabled this by being so negligent!
Man…this guy can tell a story like no other. No pauses, no stuttering, no sudden loss of thought or anything and is fully engaged, articulate and detailed the whole time (I get it’s edited, but still!). Well done @MrBallen ! Keep up the great content.
I can't get over how much information he acquired to tell this story - he must have conducted dozens of interviews with police, witnesses, family, neighbors, friends of Austin, restaurant folks, etc, etc. If they make a movie out of this, they need Ballen to assist!
A similar thing happened in Sweden as well. A pair of married MDs had a love child quite in late age. They had kids who were in the teens or grown up when this child was born, he turned weird and agressive in late teens. Eventually he improved somewhat and moved to go to university. But he soon ditched his studies for drugs became homeless and such. His grown up siblings tried to encourage the parents to deny him to come home to them. They also locked their bedroom doors at the time he was at their home. Though they had sought care for him, he was hospitalized at a couple of times but as soon as he got better he was let out, and then he mismanaged his medicine, nutrition and sleep. And used streetdrugs. He killed his parents, they caught him quite quick because afterwards he went in his bloody clothes to buy cigarettes and then several people who came across him rang police about a guy with massive fresh bloodstains on his clothes is strolling around.
This is why mental health is so important. If people around Austin had taken his weird behaviours more seriously, so he could have gotten the help he needed, this might've never happened
A lot of the time, when teens and young and adults start acting like this, people write it off as some kind of phase, and indeed, working psychiatry as i do, i often find myself having to explain to parents that no, their child doesnt have schizophrenia, they are just a huge fan of goth rock. On the other hand, i find myself dealing with adults who everyone thought were just big fans of Evanescence, who suffer crippling depression, and found solace in the music.
They tried to have him committed at the very beginning. The Baker Act won't allow anyone to forcefully commit someone against their will, unless they have done something violent. Apparently, they did get him to go willingly, because the video pointed out that he had drugs prescribed by psychiatrists in his system.
The minute the parents felt like they had to lock their doors, was the minute they should have asked for help. If any member of my family showed such 'unusual' traits it would be my duty to as a caring responsible adult to do the right thing. I see a failing of responsibility by the family in this case - and that's not to justify what this kid did - it was atrocious - but I really think there were earlier signs.
Yeah, with the whole story given here, the parents are certainly somewhat culpable. You find someone in the kitchen drinking vegetable oil, you don't take them back to a restaurant, you fucking take them to the hospitable for a psych evaluation.
The second he tried to walk into traffic to test his immortality, he proved to be a danger to himself and should have been committed. Instead, it sounds like his family just kept talking about getting him psych help but never actually doing so. Like "Oh, he's acting so weird! He should see a doctor or something. Oh well, guess I'll just lock my bedroom door at night so he doesn't come in while I'm sleeping. He's probably on drugs and we've no idea what he'll do next. Let's watch movies together! Hey Austin, you need psych help. Glad you agree. Now let's stop talking about this and go to a restaurant." =/
So many signs that Austin needed help came long before they sat down in that restaurant like he hadn't just tried to "test his immortality" outside. I feel like this was a preventable tragedy.
it seems like he wanted help but whatever he was suffering from did the opposite. instead of telling his family he's suffering from disturbing hallucinations, he said he was guarding them from demons. instead of telling his family he was suicidal, he said he was immortal and tried to prove it. it's sad to think that possibly because his father's side wasn't helping him properly, he went to his mother for help and she just dropped him back off where he started.
Right? Our little family meal would’ve ended immediately and the adults would’ve takin us all home while calling the psych ward/corona-cops to meet us there.
Once he didn't fit into their idea of a good boy they forgot about him. Drug induced schizophrenia is truly one of the most horrific things that can happen to someone
Was thinking about this too. His parents treated him like a trophy kid and only supported him if it benefitted them, but didn't support him when he needs mental help even before he started using drugs.
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I've seen it firsthand before, it is terrifying. A good friend of mine has schizo-affective disorder bipolar type and had a major drug problems which definitely made things worse. She's been found NGRI several times over the years, and she just admitted herself to in-patient therapy. She's doing really well now as far as I know.
His parents didn't do anything because he would be an embarrassment to their family. I have heard about it too many times, wealthy or popular people want their children hidden from having problems, that is just horrible abuse.
@@gazepskotzs4 Prayers will be answered, only when we do all we can do. People use Jesus as a magician, they think I can Pray and it will be done. Yes, He is here to help us when we are not able to do anything about it. We have to have the right Faith and all we can. This is just like fighting our enemy, we have power over the devil in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, if that thing feels your doubt; it will use it against you. Prayer and Asking is awesome, He's not there pop a Miracle out every time we call.
Wrong. His parents were convinced he was using drugs. They thought keeping him busy and under their watch would keep him off drugs, hence fix him. By the time they realized this is not a drug issue, and HAD HIS APPOINTMENT set, it was too late. Just days away from his scheduled appointment
Imagine how crazy your everyday normal behavior has to have become that "drinking straight vegetable oil" is considered a "meh, let's make sure he gets back to his dinner with family friends" situation
Needless to say, there is controversy about the use of brominated vegetable oils “Bromism” can cause confusion, hallucinations and even psychosis. Add to this neurological abnormalities, memory impairment and gross skin postules, and you’ve got a nasty condition. This kid by his own mothers admission was chugging vegetable oil which is brominated vegetable oil. meaning that his story about what he saw could be 100% true. Now why he did the things he did before he chugged the oil in his kitchen, i have no clue. but this does explain the story he told about seeing the face and stuff. surprised no dr told the cops about this.
the same reason that serial killers' parents call their children "mommys sweet little boy" theyre equally fucked or just unable to register anything that is in front of their eyes
My ex said there was nothing wrong with our oldest and fought me at every turn to keep him home. Less than a year after aging out of Boystown he shot himself in the temple at his mom's house before Thanksgiving dinner.
A friend of mine a few years back his son was acting the same patrolling the house in the middle of the night saying there was Demon's ..he had taken ecstasy four times.. his son is in an institution to this day... Beyond beyond sad.
They locked their bedroom doors at night because they didn't feel safe but didn't even TRY to get him any sort of mental help for months? That entire family was just unbelievably negligent.
Trust me it's not easy to get an adult help until they do something violent
@@tynamiller614 I know. But they could have tried. Sounds like they waited a long time to even try. And both his parents were in the medical field, they could have taken him to an emergency room. They would put a hold on him until he could be evaluated. They know that.
Yes
Rich simpletons.
I will never understand why family of mentally ill people think it is okay to turn their back on their mentality ill family. They wouldn’t do it to any other illness. So sad.
I’m really disturbed by the fact that he was acting weird all summer and the family just brushed it off.
They don't want to see it.
Just like how society also brushes off issues. It's within human nature to not want to accept how horrific the world can be.
Exactly
It’s sad Bc it’s clear that he was suffering from severe psychosis
Hindsight is 20/20. The onset on mental illness can, in actuality, be so subtle and easily blamed on the substances that nearly all of the sufferers try to self-medicate with. Their behavior can just seem like youthful eccentricity that's fully accepted at that age as well.
i absolutely cannot believe that austin's family, particularly his sister, just let him leave the table for 30+ minutes when literally right before this he was trying to WALK INTO TRAFFIC.
It is Florida. A trash state. They are some of the worst people ever.
@@NextWorldVR nah can’t blame Florida for this. Florida is great
The whole thing is shocking. A catalogue of neglect.
It sucks how people always blame the families. You're like the modern type of people that would cheer and join in back in the day when people were lynched ot burned for being witches.
@@NextWorldVR Idk about that bro. I say California or New York takes the cake. Or heck, let’s just point at New Jersey!
this is genuinely one of the saddest and most disturbing stories i’ve ever heard. i feel terrible for the victims and their families. i also can’t imagine what austin was going through. mental illnesses are terrifying and absolutely awful. the way his family handled him was horrific
If my son starts chugging vegetable oil after walking to my house while he’s supposed to be in the middle of a meal with the rest of our family, I’m not driving him back to the restaurant… I’m taking him to the hospital.
Right like wtf
If I did that, my own dad would've made sure I went missing.
I can read his thoughts: "This one ain't right, let's try again."
But it has electrolytes...which is what people crave
Exactly! His parents certainly had the means, not to mention so many chances, to take him to get help. this could have been completely avoided. Ugh
@@Muckwickett plants crave it too👍
The way his parents handled this gives me so much “please stop acting crazy we have a reputation to upkeep” energy. So sad
Well, sure, but how the hell were they supposed to know he was gonna ingest solvents. lol
Meth fried his brain you see it bad in cali n florida to alot of ppl
They had the dough to pay for a 38 page report.
That’s how it is; in my family if you go out of line or bring bad publicity you will be blackballed from the family (the consequences of being blackballed are classified).
@@The_Gallowglass its a nice way of saying th drugs were research chems yuu cant test a substance that dont exist
The premier got messed up somehow, so I decided to just post the video normally. Sorry!
Hahahaha good job anyway
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Can we just applaud Mr.Ballen for telling stories SO WELL.. I'M SO DRAWN IN AND ITS AMAZING
His mother sees him drinking oil and drives him back to the restaurant… I’m sorry but the whole family seemed OFF.
@@professorfinesser4015 where are you from
Exactly @Annie Lolo I can't wrap my head around it. If I didn't decide the intervene during the nightly demon patrols, drinking oil would definitely spur me into action. Who know what else the guy would start eating or drinking unawares?
@@KikiChan_007 lmfao!! Nightly demon patrols Lol
@@nikosari4475 where they're from doesn't matter, they just pointed out a flaw in some American family systems
@@smoochfa973 do you live in America because I do and the cps are up me and my family's ass
His mum and dad were both medical professionals but neither of them let his behaviour interrupt their plans...the dad wouldn't leave his meal and his mum thought it was ok to stop him drinking vegetable oil and just drive him back to the restaurant. Absolutely unbelievable.
are you serious?! I did not know that about the parents. Makes this story SO much worse. So sad and irresponsible.
Well, a dentist and a pharmacist.
@@victoriaespringle it was in the video 🤭
stepzc I cant understand this family either...they had been told plus plus they new something was bad wrong but no help....just dont get it...
They made a huge huge mistake, fatal mistake by convincing themselves that their son's bizarre behaviour is completely attributable to his multiple drug abuse; they believed that he is behaving in this weird manner under the influence of narcotics. They failed to take into account permanent psychological damage he already had which was only further exacerbated by various drugs.
Its dumbfounding how after he clearly tried killing himself by walking into traffic, the sister, family, and friends still thought it was okay to continue with their dinner plans like nothing ever happened. And continued to allow him to leave the table unsupervised multiple times. That is so enraging.
Exactly they ignored all the red flags regarding Austin, they should be punished too.
Just to think he leaves the restaurant to go eat the face of a stranger.
@@crystalnis6213 I agree the sister should have called her dad and told him that Austin just deliberately walked into traffic. They could have called an ambulance or the cops and had him put under observation for his own safety even if it's only for 24 hours until they can get more intense help for him sorted out.
It is very common for loving parents to deny a problem exists and hope it goes away.
Exactly
Never underestimate the willingness of people to deny a person is mentally ill. Many people are incapable of sensing or acknowledging a loved one is mentally unwell despite the significant red flags. Mental illness typically starts manifesting in late teens and early 20’s, and often times the changes in someone can happen seemingly overnight. If someone you’re close to starts acting strangely (fine one minute, making odd or incoherent statements the next), do whatever you can to get them help. And if someone *IS* asking for help, take them seriously!
Shout out to Jeff for immediately jumping into action and getting help for the woman before even mentioning he got stabbed in the back
Awe of course he was a brave n selfless man but just realizing he called n told them what happened to her before himself speaks volumes of this man’s character
True but they probably would of sent help even quicker if he said that first
He was brave, but still let Austin get back up and still ran away. So he was brave, but not smart.
And the cops, they could have kneeled and shot parallel to the ground into Ausin, with the bullet trajectory never being in danger of hitting John, as he is flat on the ground. That's just basic middle-school geometry: a line parallel to a surface never intersects with the surface. Every human being over 12 years old should know basic geometry. I don't know if the cops couldn't subdue him or shoot him because they were also elderly (being in Florida) or they just knew they didn't have good aim.
In the end, people tried to help, but were too incapable of doing so. The dog is the only one who was somewhat effective.
@@JamesMBC So you're telling me you are willing to fight unarmed with an obvious psycho HOLDING A KNIFE for your neighbour? Is that correct? Did I get that right? One last question... are you fucking batman by any chance saying shit like that?
Poor guy was so in shock he couldn't even think of himself :( he sounded like such a an after thought to himself
The amount of neglect from everyone close to Austin is incredible.
@B Pope Did you... Watch the video? The drugs didn't cause him to be like that?
@B Pope that doesn't make the initial statement untrue
@B Pope although drugs might have had a part in his actions, the majority of this surely came from a severe mental disorder (hence why when he stopped taking drugs nothing changed and things only got worse, eventually leading to this manic episode).
Not everyone has had to deal with someone who was an addict or someone with such a high level of mental health issues let alone the dual diagnosis. The DID get him help with his addiction, they were going to put him in an involuntary 72 hr mental health hold at the hospital and they, from what it seems, didn't just abandon him. Stop trying to point fingers when we don't know what we'd do in that EXACT situation.
So many of his friends and family watched him spiral into madness and instead of getting him help, they just acted like he was fine. At any point they could’ve gotten him to see a psychiatrist or something but instead they chose to do nothing. If I had a friend or family member that acted that way, I would definitely try to get something done. His mom walked in on him drinking vegetable oil and just drove him back to the restaurant like nothing happened? Smh I know he has fault in it too but clearly he was not on a sound state of mind.
Austin’s family is outrageously irresponsible. If my kid was acting like this, and I was in a position of having to lock my bedroom door because he’s pacing outside guarding me from demons, I sure as hell wouldn’t be going on about normal life. And when his mother finds him chugging vegetable oil, she just drove him back to the restaurant?? I would have taken him directly to the hospital because I’d be thinking he’s either having a psychotic break or he has a brain tumor. When someone is truly insane, they can’t identify that for themselves and make a sound enough decision to seek help on their own; family and friends are literally the only hope in those situations.
I think that in this case, the difficulty is that the kid was in college. Not being around him on a regular basis by his family, where they could not observe his actions, definitely was an issue. His peers at school were probably just thinking he had gone off the deep end and just refused to associate with him.
There is no doubt in my mind that there is more to the story and he was probably on some type of brain eradicator, but, obviously, those who sold it to him or gave it to him will never come forward.
I wouldn't say that you are wrong, but you have a point. Maybe, it was the mother who made him into what he became.
On the other side of the coin, many kids are traumatically damaged from their parents going through a divorce as in this case.
The reality of the situation is that dead is dead and the dead are not coming back. In the old days, he would have had to pay for his crimes with his life. The justice system we are hovering under now will probably want to rehabilitate him. How, that would be unknown, but he certainly cannot be released back out into society where he could have the opportunity to do it again or even worse.
The mind altering drugs were his downfall, along with poor self esteem. This is not an excuse by any means, but my comments are based upon the way this story is presented. It was definitely parental and a non communication issue on many levels. Once he was on drugs, some of these psychotropics, or compounds which act psychotropically, are so powerful you only need to take them once.
I really have a deep sympathy for the loss the family had to go through. I understand where they want him to be completely lucid mentally, but you are dealing with someone who is loony tunes. His demonic story could be totally faked for sympathy. It almost looks as if he was possessed by a demon. He could easily be biding his time, acting like he is being rehabilitated, only to wait for the right moment to escape and continue with what he was doing. I do not think wishing him to have a clear mind is the answer.
Absolutely that was what I was thinking the whole time
I too, blame the clueless parents for not packing him up and taking him to the hospital. It just freaks me that she just took in back to the restaurant and dropped him off to his dad; at a public place. A restaurant. Drinking all that vegetable oil may not be poisonous but it certainly is abhorrent behavior. I wonder if his parents were so set on normalcy, not showing cracks that it compelled them to just not see what their son was going through right in front of them.
"Here, you deal with him. He just drank all of my vegetable oil. I've had enough!" Thats one possible reaction. But what if it was more apathic? The parents just didn't ha c e the tools, didn't know who to turn to for help. Vyvanse is a drug prescribed to people with moderate to severe concentration issues. It can make a person feel very paranoid too if misused. Or in combination with prolonged lack of sleep and heavy caffeine intake.
Being a parent and having made a few parenting errors myself, there's no way I wouldn't have taken my son to the hospital that very evening after I wiped the vegitabke oil from his chin. I'm sorry this family is suffering, so.
Seriously! I know! These idiots!!!!
@@tibetbill people like you prove to me that there are people in the world that really have no idea about mental health, your an idiot, plain and simple. This kid had his whole life ahead of him, he was successful and was probably heading to a better place than you, he most likely went through something terrible on his own like it always has been, his family clearly were one dimensional and could not understand anything he was dealing with. Basically everything they said to him in this story and the way they said it was wrong and could and definitely did affect him to go that far, and if he was faking that story? Then the only possible solution would be that he purposely did that so that the officer would shoot him. Can you imagine what it would be like to never get a moment of rest? Constantly battling with thoughts and made up demons, the sleep deprevation, how about this, have you ever stayed up for 2 days and realised some things you don't notice? Then some things you don't. This is an extreme version of that and it could of happened to you bud
I used to take Ambien. I started sleepwalking, ended up outside in the middle of the street claiming a friend was picking me up (it’s 3am and I’m wearing boxer shorts, tank top, w/o shoes). I also started to believe my bedroom had a ghost. I bought loads of crystals and sage to try “clear/cleanse” the space in my room.
Once I stopped taking Ambien, I no longer experienced these things. Smh 🤦🏽♀️
It's scary how many stories I've heard involving ambient.
I did the same thing. I’d be walking around town at 3 am, walking into places then walking out with stuff like a beanbag, a chair and a laptop nonchalantly. Walking home in the most suspicious manner. But this dude was on bath salts. No human could take getting attacked by a German shepherd multiple times and be unfazed
one simply doesnt take ambien for sleep, its purely to force stay awake on and enjoy the bubbles
@@HootieNoScopes This is facts lol
@brandonmcalpin9228 they said he only had THC in his system. small amount
I am appalled with how Austin's family handled his Insanity.
1- They knew he was seeing demons at night and instead of trying to understand what was wrong or trying to help, even just listening to him, they locked the door leaving him alone with whatever was tormenting him.
2- They knew it wasn't the drugs and yet they waited a whole summer to consider getting professional help.
3- Once they were at the restaurant, Austin's family let him wander for half an hour without following him after he almost ran into traffic.
4- The mother saw him drink vegetable oil and didn't think to immediately take him to the hospital like, fuck it let's skip the formalities, I need to know what's wrong with my son, instead she brought him back to the restaurant with the same people who left him unattended.
5- I would be worried sick after all these signals and what did the father have to say? "What is wrong with you?". Like Austin could control his actions and he was doing all that on purpose, like he was a liability to them. The whole reason they were sitting around that table was to figure out how to help him, not blame him.
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The whole crime took place because of the lack of support from Austin family. I hope that now, during his detainment, he will get treated for his illness. R.I.P to Michelle and John
I know right? His family have blood on their hands!!
Hell yes!!! The stupid family should have done something!!!!
Screw Austin - hope he gets it in prison
@@pattimaeda6097 yup
@@pattimaeda6097 he will .
I'm surprised that Austin was never admitted to a psychiatric hospital before the crimes. His parents really went, "He's fine. It's just drugs." Even if it was "just the drugs," he needed serious help.
Exactly. Why would they feel it so necessary to sweep something that serious under the rug?
@little Flowers Literally just had almost the same exact thought!
I am not surprised, I live in Ireland and our mental health services have failed people and society too many times. A guy in my hometown was clearly unhinged, a danger to society, and should have been sectioned/helped years ago but it was like Austen, ignored and brushed over. It too ended in a blood bath when the guy finally snapped and after our mental health services were harshly criticized for not stepping in earlier.
Sometimes, parents would rather have a drug addict than a mentally ill child. I think he was schizophrenic which was brought on by the drugs, mainly THC. That often happens to people at about age 17 or 18.
It's pretty ckear that he was taking the drugs to soothe the stuff going on in his head. His parents are highly educated , how could they not understand what was going on with him ? Their reactions to his behavior are so lacking in every way.
I am EXTREMELY disturbed that he tried to walk into traffic and they were just like “eh, let’s go to dinner”
Yeah. Actually, if his sister would have just let him walk into traffic, he'd probably have been far better off than he is now. He might have ended up with a couple of broken bones, and with luck, he would have gotten psychological help. ... And that couple would still be inviting neighbours to their happy garage.
In all honesty if ANY of his family members would have just took him to an ER and forced him to get help it would have ended different.
SERIOUSLY- That’s not something you just brush off like what were they waiting for to commit him something like this to happen I’m still halfway through this video so if Austin wasn’t even the death penalty I truly hope every inmate that is around him nose and find out what he did because then justice will truly be served unfortunately that’s how it has to go sometimes
His family was pretty negligent.
Hey, they're all happy-go-lucky people. They don't worry about shit.
You are an amazing storyteller. You make me feel like I’m actually present during these events
His family couldn't have done less to address their son's issues.
That radical of a change that quickly would be very disturbing for anyone to accept. I understand why someone would try to find any other explanation for the behavior of their loved one. In an ideal world, yes the parents and friends would have gotten him help fast enough to prevent someone from being hurt. However, given our imperfect world I understand why they were in denial.
They did try to get him diagnosed once he was clean, though. At first they thought it was the drugs. What were they supposed to do for him?
@@ANPC-pi9vu continue to try, get him committed, call the cops, take him to the hospital, tell them he’s a danger to himself and others, bother anyone until they get him committed.
@@ANPC-pi9vu make an appointment for him to see a psychologist or psychiatrist. Ive seen people that are threats to themselves (only themself - not even threats to others) get dragged kicking and screaming to the psych ward which helped them a lot get on track with their mental illness and theyre doing fine now, in this story he admitted he needed help to his family which is more than most people with mental illness can reason, so take him seriously, make the appointment, and take him there. take him to the hospital, call the cops and explain hes a danger to himself and others (especially since he threatened to kill his friends, and then attacked his dad), tell the cops hes acting bizarrely/dangerously. if drugs are ruled out, then assume mental illness and try to treat that. there are a lot of things they couldve done other than just locking their doors at night and bringing him back to a restaurant and just hoping hed return to normal.
@@ANPC-pi9vu dude I would’ve called for a 5150 after the “patrolling for demons all night” shit
I feel like his family totally failed him. When he was walking through the house at night , protecting them from demons…would have been enough for me to get my son some immediate help. Locking the doors and turning a blind eye was not the move here. He tried to walk out into traffic, and they carry on to dinner like that didn’t just happen. How many red flags did this kid have to wave before someone took him to a hospital for psychiatric treatment!
I thought the same thing
Yeah totally agree. How could you not notice after 1 day of his behavior that he desperately needed help.
Same here, if that was my child I would help straight away not lock the door?!
Austin just wanted ask the way to Bell's Canyon.
They were prob worried about image
His parents failed him so intensely. Who sees their child drinking vegetable oil within this context and send them back out like all is normal?
Rich ppl
Ok....say this happened to you. You see your son doing that....what do you do?
@@daveh322 make him see a doctor?
@@alive2eat751 so you restrain him until you can get him into a doctor?
@@alive2eat751
He says .."No"...what do you do?
I've listened to a lot of your stories but this one had me jaw dropped muttering "what the fuck..." MULTIPLE times
I’m sorry if my son, brother or father was banging on my door in the middle of the night saying he is protecting me from demons he is going to hospital the next day. I am honestly disgusted by the lack of action that clearly caused this by the family
You can’t force an adult to go to the hospital, unless you can prove violent acts
@@donaldvonglitchenberger4108 yes you can, you can put an adult in mental health facility if they’re a immediate danger to themselves or others plus the baker act
no you can't. somebody banging on your room door at night isn't a direct threat enough for a baker act.
@@kierrabb1313 "immediate danger" doesn't mean all the red flags you can clearly see leading up to something tragic. They have to say they are going to harm you or others. Or physically attack. You can't get someone put in a facility for acting weird.
@@stanback2415 He’s not “acting weird” he was obviously showing signs of schizophrenia and showing aggressive behaviors since that is a more serious mental illness, psych wards take that serious don’t justify the family they could’ve prevented this.
I was so frustrated with the lack of action Austin’s family took on their own son. They kept on ignoring his obvious signs of distress. The footage of them at the restaurant shows just how neglectful they were, especially when Austin’s friend was the one that chased after him and not his own father.
When my sister had a psychotic break and was showing signs of schizophrenia, my parents didn’t hesitate to get her to a therapist and psychiatrist. It wasn’t long before she was put into an outpatient treatment center. She was released and put back about three more times before she finally got the right treatment to make a successful comeback. And even then she was heavily monitored. The house was clean of any knives, pesticides, etc.
It disgusts me that Austin’s family did absolutely nothing.
The dad's frustrated outburst in the restaurant (why tf would they bring Austin to the restaurant in his state like wtf) is on par with me finally admitting to my dad that I was feeling suicidal and his response was "you won't do it" and dismissing the conversation, instantly making me want to do it 10 times more. I'm glad you and your family took care of your sister and that she's doing better. I hope Austin never sees prison time.
You’re truly fortunate that your parents did not hesitate to seek treatment before things got much worse for your sister. Hoping she’s made a full recovery.
@@The1nvisibleJeevasI’m terribly sorry to hear your father brushed off your feelings nonchalantly. I, too, was once told that I had no reason to be depressed, which only worsened things for me. I hope you were able to get some form of treatment and are doing better now. We may not know each other, but one thing I’m sure of is that you matter. You can be a force of good in this world and be an inspiration to others. Don’t give up.
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The family clearly witnessed Austin losing it and did nothing. The dad screaming “what’s wrong with you” at the restaurant was the only psychological treatment he got. Many schizophrenics are normal until early 20s then quickly deteriorate mentally. People tend to think drugs is the problem when it’s always mental health. Mentally ill people use drugs as a solution to their problems. Our culture still has a pilgrim mindset and sees drugs as a moral failure instead of a cry for help.
Hm. I didn't see or hear "dad SCREAMING 'what's wrong with you'. Do we have different ideas of what "screaming" is?
I had a old boyfriend that was 20. One day I came home and he had lost it. He was hiding from the drug lords that were after him. Sadly it was his first time. I took him in to the hospital. He had Schizophrenia just came out of nowhere.
Yeah schizophrenia doesnt manifest any symptoms until early adulthood, normally around the 20 years of age (Austin's age), and the family only noticed his bizarre behaviors in early August 2016... the murders occurred in mid August 2016, they didnt have time to absorb the changes in their kid and react appropriately, it takes a while!
@@frankiefavero1666 it can manifest at younger ages and in very rare cases it can be a thing since the age of 1-6. In very rare cases, and normally that’s because of environment and family history.
@@icouldntreallythinkofaname2752 I've worked with people with schizophrenia in a research setting, the vast majority are males between the ages of 18 and 22 (age of symptoms onset). There was no family history either, and the drugs he partook in were clearly a means to cope with his changing brain... I dont need schooling on this, as I've been working with researchers for years. Thanks though :)
I’ve heard this story before but everyone made him seem like a monster and less like it was a mental health condition. This is the first time I’m hearing this much about it. Thanks Mr. Ballen!
"He doesn't want to fight the officers, he just wants to eat John's face." That was a sentence I didn't expect to hear today
For real
Man this is next level disturbing. His whole family didn’t see the warning signs of his psychosis. How horrible for him and for those who were the victims of his psychosis.
Oh they saw it, they just ignored it
@@MTA3 yes..totally idiot parents!!!
They saw it and well aware they chose to ignored it. Horrible family and friends.
i can not believe how his family didnt do anything. the moment your son walks around at night protecting your family from demons is when you probably should get him checked out
I was thinking the same thing, especially when I was hearing the part at the end with the face eating and all that. That poor family. On a scale of fucked up, that's fucked up.
This story is just sad. His family should've gotten him professional help immediately.
They all were confused by his new behavior and him admitting to drug use they probably through he’s going through a phase not he’s Hannabal lecture…
@@Wetcouchi34567 Hannibal Lecture, the college professor?
@@josvah lmao , you're funny Dr. Grammar
@@Wetcouchi34567 Drug induced psychosis... can be long and or life lasting
@@josvah Teaches history. Real pain in the Alps.
TY for the follow up on the doggy! Remembering the animals doesn’t happen very often elsewhere. Always appreciated - even if it’s bad news at least
we can stop worrying.
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The dog was demonic
People are dead because this kids family didn't want the neighbors to think their son was "crazy". They cared more for an image then helping the kid
THIS 100%. How did no one get him help? he was clearly going through something. This couldve all been prevented
yup, fuck what neighbors think, opinions are like assholes everyone has one!
100%
As soon as they started locking their bedroom door at the beginning of the summer, shows they were at least aware he was capable of harming someone.
They tried to have him committed at the very beginning. The Baker Act won't allow anyone to forcefully commit someone against their will, unless they have done something violent. Apparently, they did get him to go willingly, because the video pointed out that he had drugs prescribed by psychiatrists in his system.
My parents give a F about what ppl think too and I thinks it’s sad…I do not raise my kids like that..I raise them to not give a F about what ppl think..This is sad and what you said was so true..SMH
What a terrifying story. What is even more troubling is that this family is wealthy & they COULD have afforded help for their kid.
And me too.
@@THEBIGGAME683 ??
Even worse is that they'd have to "afford" it at all. Mental health is already such a stigmatized area where people have a hard time coming forward when they think there is something wrong with themselves, but then to add our crap medical system into the mix is only going to lead to worse outcomes in general.
We need a serious reform when it comes to our medical and police systems as well as do a better job at not stigmatizing mental health while teaching about it more countrywide.
Rich people mostly do not accept that their children could be mentally ill, so they ignore it. Reasoning? Self proclaimed superior genes, with money etcetera. They brush it under the rug, so to speak. Poor or rich, mental illness is real and running rampant. 😔
Did you not hear that they were gonna use the baker act or ??
Austin: I'm a horse and I'm immortal
His entire Family: Bro shut up, lets go to Duffy's
Quite a monstrously stupid family he had there.
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What a DISGRACE on the part of his parents. Unbelievable. Can’t be MY perfect son; he’s only MY son if he’s perfect. Cost that poor couple their lives.
I wanna upvote this but you've got 420 likes right now
@@dangyraco 🔥
This man wasn't protecting people from demons, he was possessed by demons.
since at the start he was TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE he DID want to protect the
He jusdt did not realize how to help himself
Tool the words from my mouth my dude.. scary stuff
He is staying up all night patrolling the house to protect the family from “demons” and they lock their doors and go to sleep. My kid comes back from college and is doing that I am taking them to the doctor or hospital. Can’t believe they ignored this all summer and seemed more annoyed by it than anything else.
surprise demon possession story.
Also especially because the parents had some form of medical/chemical background, they even could have called for favors for their son to be analysed seeing how rich they were
Austin's friend did a million times more for him that his own family. I catch my kid drinking OIL im taking them to the ER even if i have to knock them out to do it. And the fact that the mom didnt even tell his dad what she caught THEIR son doing is beyond normal reasoning.
Probably not on speaking terms, or maybe she did tell the intervention team (dad, friend and family), just a few moments too late.
His parents should face consequences. Absolutely unacceptable to not institutionalize him
You're100% RIGHT! She literally saw him drinking oil and just dropped him back off at the restaurant😕 I hope that this women is never put in a position to care for or help care for NOBODY😔
My dad just knocked me out cold because he caught me drinking vegetable oil
@@5days61 lol
So angered by this story. As soon as he started telling them he was guarding from demons, they should have taking him to a therapist or doctor just to have someone to talk to. He was the right age for schizophrenia to manifest. Everyone let him down.
DRUGS, BABY - DRUGS! Wake the fuck up.
Drugs can trigger underlying health; AKA teens smoking weed can actually “triggger” schizophrenia. IT CAN NOT CUASE IT but can trigger it and cause more SEVERE symptoms at a younger age. There is also drug induced psychosis. Either way its CLEAR that he SHOULD have had help. I think; could be wrong; but i think a lot of times if someone doesn’t show signs of aggression and are more a danger to themselves and it comes and goes it can be confusing. I have experienced someone being a danger to self and appearing to be delusional but then they are fine and i questioned if i was exaggerating or triggering the behavior. It isn’t cut and dry. In my situation they got off drugs and only paranoia lingered. To this day idk what the diagnosis would be.
I totally agree. Moving into the garage bc there are demons in the home and needing to guard family should have warranted having Austin psychiatrically evaluated. Walking into traffic was yet another sign. His family's response was bizarre ie let's just have dinner and mom just taking him back to the restaurant and no one addressing his behaviors. This was so disturbing I almost hesitate to watch anymore videos. Horrible
He likely needed ego dissolution; a heavy dose of magic mushrooms or a shock to the system like Pushing Tin. Most people walk around with an ever inflating ego that needs a reality check. For most, it would be a midlife crisis when their ego starts to fall short of reality.
I just heard a case in court where the victim was a middle age man that thought he needed a motorcycle; he lost ability to walk, his memories, his personality, his testicles, his family, his freedom.
@@ashleylewis4010 sorry but you clearly don't have a clue about schizophrenia and your comments on teenagers smoking cannabis and connecting the dots with schizophrenia is way off.. just not true what you are saying
I’m a retired Mental Health Therapists.
I retired from Western State Hospital, (WSH), which is the 2nd largest mental health hospital in America in Tacoma, WA.
Years ago I had a patient who, during a psychotic break ate part of his victim.
His victim survived but my patient was brutal.
He was truly demon possessed. He will die at WSH.
I had a total of three patients like what you’ve just listened to during my career.
I was never afraid of my patients, but those 3 men were scary.
I’m enjoying my retirement and though I looked forward to going to work everyday, I’m glad for retirement.
WSH lost their Federal funding after my retirement so now it’s ran by a private company.
Wow this is so interesting! I grew up in Federal Way and I had no idea that there was the 2nd largest mental hospital in the nation just a city over! Happy retirement :)
@@conniecontoravdis1258 WSH is second largest. New York has the largest mental health hospital in America.
Whenever we have to go to Tacoma, we always go by Federal Way.
After retirement we bought 1/4 of a mountain 5 miles SW of Cashmere (between Cashmere and Leavenworth) and built a custom home part of the way up our mountain.
Some good friends bought the other 1/4. The other 1/2 is National Forest.
We don’t get near the rain as the left side does but we get a buttload of snow, 5-7 feet every winter so we have to plow and maintain our private road ourselves.
Enjoy your evening !
Stay safe
Remind me never to go to that hospital. Medical care via superstition is not very practical.
@@cjmiller6741 WSH is a Mental Health Hospital. It’s NOT a hospital for a Sane person or to have a medical checkup or for a broken limb.
It’s for people who are Mentally Unstable who are a danger to themselves or others and who have been sent to WSH because they meet the criteria and have been ordered by the courts for an evaluation of 72 hours. Then the patient has a “hold” for 90 days.
Some of the patients came to WSH since they were 18 and will die there.
On a few occasions we received patients who were 16 years of age, because they were previously at another facility for children.
In those cases, they became mentally unstable while in grade school. When they’ve been at CSTC (Child Study Treatment Center) since childhood, when they turned 16, most of them go into a group home until the age of 18. Those few occasions when we received 16 year old children, it’s a special court case where the patient exhibits a very violent tendencies and are too much of a danger to themselves and others to be released into a group home.
I think I’m possessed by a demon but I would never eat someone’s face . I am very scared though . Sometimes I’m perfectly normal
His family was acting like the crazy would just go away if they didn’t look
Very good analogy & even more true!!!
I agree
His family are a bunch of smucks. I’m so pissed off with their antics.
That tends to be the way it goes sadly but in this case its extremely shocking that they handled it this way.
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It is absolutely crazy to me that the Mom saw her son drinking vegetable oil and was just like let’s not go to the ER because something is clearly wrong. To just drive the dude back to restaurant and act like everything is fine is just wild to me.
That was definitely the weirdest thing, anybody aside from Austin did, that made me think to myself, what kind of family is this?
Her instinct was to offload him on the father. She apparently 'had better things to do' and didn't want to have to deal with the mess.
That caught my attention too. Wow my son is clearly out of his mind, I'd better get him to a Duffy's quickly!?
Right?! Insanity!
Mental health issues probably run in the family because no sane and caring parent would ignore their child drinking vegetable oil, almost walking into ongoing traffic, patrolling the house at night and making weird animal noises and leave them be
All I know is that this kid's family were extremely irresponsible and careless. I can't believe his mother just sent him back to the restaurant after she found him drinking vegetable oil. Just...wow
Won't it result in diarrhoea I once drunk oil.... I saw all shades in the toilet 😂
@@laurenkhate2001 Jesus! I could see that resulting in a ride in a ambulance
@@FreelancerFreak exactly. Even if she wasn't concerned about his mental health, at least be concerned of his physical health. I'd be running with my kid to the ER if I found him gulping down cooking oil straight from the container
@@LolitaBonitaaa Same. I know you shouldn't be just drinking they stuff down.
@@FreelancerFreak really I've drunk olive oil and coconut oil because it's meant to be good for my skin admittedly not huge quantities. I didn't watch the part where they spoke about the oil . I skip parts in stories like this where it wasn't really anyones fault it's terrifing because this can happen to anyone and there is nothing we can do about it and noone is really , truely at fault especially the purpetraror .
Your storytelling is too good! I watch random videos, mostly true crime, while I'm cooking dinner, feeding the dogs, doing the dishes etc. I get so enthralled with your story it takes me twice as long to get everything done! I'll save your videos for another time when I can focus!
The fact that his behavior was so bizarre and clearly abnormal and that the family did absolutely nothing about it for so long leaves me absolutely jaw-dropped. If one of your loved ones is struggling with mental health issues make sure they get professional help!
His father's solution was "What is wrong with you?!" Then, he killed 2 neighbors.
Literally how could they do nothing???
yeah i remember hearing this story but i didn't realize how absolutely useless his parents were. they were literally just annoyed and angered with him. there's no excuse for that. you can't make it that far into life without knowing the OBVIOUS signs of psychosis. this went well beyond any obscure early warning signs, this was clear as day
Some people either A) Don't believe in reaching out because they don't believe in proper mental healthcare or B) Let people deal with things themselves when things get tough. His family should be ashamed.
@@IWantToPetYourDog What neighbours? He was in a different part of town than he lived in at the moment. He ran from the 'dark evil figure' and wound up in that neighbourhood. Do you consider people who live on the opposite side of town to be your neighbours? Your neighbours are those that live in the same vicinity.
As soon as he started describing how happy that couple was in their marriage and how they were looking forward to retirement together, I knew what was coming
I just got to that part and I already see what's about to happen
Same here..
@@supremecut7168 I definitely wasnt expecting what I was expecting... I knew they were gonna be dead but holy shit man
So if he had started out describing an unhappy married couple looking forward to their divorce, would u still have known what was coming? Either way, is a tragedy for everyone involved in this horrible thing.
Hahahah every time
I'm not sure why... but the part that really gave me chills was the fact that he understood what was going on. He understood that he had lost it. He yelled to the cop "kiII me .. I'm eating people .. kiII me". Thinking about this gives me goose bumps.
Yeah, lucidity during a psychological episode is probably a bit more common than you think - that concept of a patient having awareness that something is _very_ wrong.
I completely agree even though obviously there was a psychotic break he still had some kind of logical thinking in his mind where he's like hello this is crazy freaking kill me maybe his mental health illness and taking over him so much that this is the only way he felt like he could get help I mean expecially when you have parents they only want to keep up their social status and unfortunately I grew up like this social status means everything to some people I personally could care less who knows about me or who cares about me
The worse part for me is that a man was being eaten alive in front of police and they "couldnt" help...imagine this happening to you and you think u are saved once the police arrive but they don't stop him
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Sounds like he might have been a victim of satanic ritual programing or mk ultra mind control programing .
WOW ! What a story. You said it well as usual. Well done John 😀
The mom: *sees her son drinking vegetable oil*
"I'll take him back to the restaurant, he's clearly thirsty."
He's trying to jump in front of traffic... let's go eat a meal.
I know! What the actual hell was the family thinking!?
She pawned him off on the dad is what that was WTF A MF Dentist and Pharmacist you would think 🤔 smarter than that.
Ikr! I was checking the comments before pointing out the same thing.
@@nickeysierra2712 that's probably entitlement. "let the other parent deal with it. I don't want to"
Everyone needs a neighbor like Jeff. No one needs parents like Austin’s.
Favourite comment ever.
Jeff literally did nothing helpful he went in got stabbed and called the cops too late. A real hero woulda gotten a weapon and gone back to make sure they were ok.
@@Forgottengemsofvine lmao okay Jakey Jake, Mr tough guy!!!
@@Forgottengemsofvine you are correct. Jeff was worthless. He got stabbed and ran away hiding on his property hoping everything will magically work itself out.
@@Cervantesbracetty he literally ran back to call the cops
This is heartbreaking on so many levels. As someone who works in mental health, I cannot comprehend how someone would see their family member acting so strangely and not immediately get them into some type of hospital or outpatient treatment center. Horrific and heartbreaking, truly.
It can be very difficult to get your loved one psychological/psychiatric help if they do not cooperate or outright hostile to their family member. BTDT
@@rudra62 i think he was asking his parents to get him help but they didnt
I totally agree with you the family failed him and then in all reality it's like they killed the husband and the wife because of their actions not helping him get the help him needed , may the couple RIP in heaven AMEN
@@rudra62 well in his case, they didn't even try, even though they clearly knew something was very wrong with him,all the signs were there it was so bad that they felt the need to lock their bedroom doors to keep him out , right then when that started happening, they should of done something, ,, when he felt the restraint for the last time, someone should of followed him and tried to see if they could have talked him back home or into the restaurant with them,,, I feel for him and of course the husband and wife that lost Thier lives,may they RIP in Jesus name Amen 🙏😥
More fun to watch the circus.
Ive heard this story so many times ive lost count, but the extra detail and way you tell the story is so much more involved and authentic it makes such a difference. Poor austin and everyone involved. Such a sad story. 😢
I’m comforted by the fact that I know my parents would never let it get that bad. If I came back from college acting like that, they’d immediately do anything in their power to get me help.
Give them a hug.
As a parent, there's a fine line between letting your kids be their own adult making their own mistakes and being over protective. That's putting a huge amount of responsibility on your parents who believe they've already done their job. I understand what you're saying, but its hard as a parent to let go as your kids gets older. You can never 100% know how anyone can react in these difficult circumstances. Here's hoping your parents never have to, or indeed yourself.
@@SmilerORocker you failed as a parent if your kid spends all night "guarding" against demons and knocks on the door every two hours to inform you as such. ESPECIALLY if your child has never showcased this behavior before. They failed thier son in so many ways.
@@TenaciousTheSketcher actually, yes, that's a good point. I genuinely don't know what I would have done in that situation, but I would have definitely gotten up and tried to talk to him, find out what's going on in his mind. Perhaps his mum was afraid of him at that?!? Horrific ending.
In my town (a little Irish town) a son decapitated his mum, he'd been saying that she was a demon. We all thought there was something odd about him but nobody could put their finger on it. Again, it was drugs that seemed to set him off, but the psychiatrists agreed that he wasn't suffering from any thing that they could have worked on.
My parents would blame drugs and let me die.
What happened to that couple is completely horrendous and heartbreaking. What was also heart breaking was hearing Austin yell “kill me, I’m eating humans, kill me.” His family failed him so hard and he was practically yelling for help since he came back that summer
nah bro the immortal horse god just wanted a snack, he hates being seen in human form.
@@AscensionRimworld hahhahahaa that’s fucked up dude. 😅🤣😅😂
@@AscensionRimworld lol
GUY went from EATING with family at a restaurant. To turning into fricking Jason / Michael Myers in less then a hour. SOMETHING is heavenly wrong here!
JESUS! THE report is just like a fricking ghost story. So much happening the last week...
He made a left turn and saw a white light from a garage. Mr harrouff ran toward the lighted garage to ask for help in getting home. He did not have memory of what he planned to say. But he perceived the lighted garage as an area of safety in his terror. He next recalled seeing a woman in the garage and her screaming at him. He thought that she was a witch. Because of the way she was screaming. .... He got scared.. He screamed when she screamed because he was scared. He believed he was a dog at the time of biting her. He was unsure of the sequence of events in the garage. He best recollection was that he drank a bottle of "alcohol"
I'm happy to say I provided your post with like nr 666.
Austin’s story is just one of the saddest out there. So many red flags, so many missed opportunities to have gotten him the mental health support that he so desperately needed. He perfectly fits the profile for the onset of schizophrenia, his age, his intelligence, his personality. So many victims in this story. The parents failed Austin, and other people paid a terrible price for their laxity.
They saw the bright future he had and didn't want anything to affect that. Poor kid. Poor victims.
I got a fiend like that and he is usually ok but because of drug abuse specialy amphetamine/speed even tho he is not taking some for long period of time as soon as he smoke weed he goes into a psychoses. On of the Last time it happen we were watching the movie 36 chamber of shaoling in the middle of the movie he got up and he climb up the roof and jump from roof to roof and wad making some martial art sound .... sucks but when you are doing drug you never know how your messing up your brain even i used to do some i can notice some not normal beavior and now i Smoke weed and go into à deep paranioa (not doing any drug anynore as à result i already have trouble to keep my mind healthy when im sober juste imagine if i use any drug) last time it happen i went to the hospital and told them i wasnt feeling right and i could not shake feeling that i add at the time des gave me more medication i ended up not remembering haf my week end ...... and i was terified as i was gong to places that i dit not remember driving too ) when i realize i dis not remember much of the week end i was freak out so bottom line dont do drug cause you might think these thing dont happen but it des and its scary drug leave mark on your self you might not realise right away sad that this young guys lost it that and i can tell the blury dark shadow he sa was probably the black spot you see when u dont sleep much for days when you blink you see black mark man poor guy it was tragic and some People might not agree but i fell for the guy even he know from what he say i eat People kill me the guy knew something was wrong .. my sympathies for the victim familly.
It's easy to say that, but imagine yourself in their position. Lay aside the preconceived notions you have after knowing the story.
It isn't always so clear despite the red flags.
Oh please. You have no idea what you're talking about. Someone that's on drugs is not someone that you can just "get help" for. The only person that can make an addict change is themselves. They either hit the wall and live, and get clean, or they hit the wall and die.
He fucked up on his own.
Jeff is a true herroe for jumping in to try to help that women 💯
He told his sister he's "half horse half immortal" at the beach right after he threatened to kill his friends if they call him crazy. His family is 100% to blame.. How did his family ignore him so much that's depressing as hell
Right, when the buddy he asked to confirm his birth year immediately felt the need to have him close and watch him, his own dickhead family just locked their doors at night. Trash.
Its terrifying that a lot of people here think "we cannot do anything" even his dad felt powerless. Its you f4cking son, put him in a mental facility
It can be scary, but you can't just push these people away. Their behavior is just their brain saying "shit ain't right up here, grab the meat puppet I'm piloting and get me some help, will ya? I can't do this by myself anymore." It doesn't have to be a whole thing.
have you been on social media?
in this day and age you have people identifying as animals and other weird things
the insane has become the new normal
It’s Florida man. They don’t let nothing interrupt there vibe and certainly can’t be crazy in the warm heat and sun
You’re telling me he was DRINKING vegetable oil and his mom took him back to the restaurant cause that was normal?
right??? i was looking for this comment haha
Exactly!
I would have taken my child straight to a hospital. This makes no sense to me.
Austin dear, why are you drinking the vegetable oil and making such a mess with our cheese? Is it the demons again? Come now sweetie let me take you back to the restaurant.
Somthing else was going on with that family...i smell envy.
His family failed him so hard, it's unbeliavable how his parents enabled this incident, they were so negligent.
That’s how wealthy people handle things. They just brush it under the rug. 🤦🏼♀️
Were the parents even told about the walking into traffic incident?
@@DS-ig6hl Yep, they don't want a bad image so they try maintaining it through denial.
@@loulouloulou7766 I don't know, but his mother was well aware he was supposed to be in the restaurant, and instead of that he was drinking oil in his place, she got him to change clothes and took him back to the restaurant, just that fact baffles me. Look I dont wanna pretend I'm better than then, because I wasn't on their shoes, but I think I'd never pretend everything was ok, after the demons red flag.
His Fraternity that sold him the drugs failed him, not his parents.
Terrifying story. Peace and healing to the victims family and friends.
massive respect to jeff, yeah he ran but calls 911 after being stabbed and the first thing he tells them is that his neighbour is on the ground! top man that jeff
None of it wouldn’t have happen if Austin parents took action soon as he started acting weird they watched him act like that for almost 3 months straight
@@Lilkendogamingchannel1870 that's true, the sister and friends too, behaviour was weird enough that you would think someone would act on it but from how many people he had caring for him I think everyone ignored it thinking someone else would highlight it and help but no one did because they all thought someone else would.
@@StalwartShinobi as much as I want to sit here and pretend I would have done more or at least not ran, imma have to agree, if Jeff wouldn’t have ran he probably would have had his face eaten off before the husband got back.
My dumbass would have been the tough guy who stayed there and got killed by some possessed demon kid who self evidently was unable to feel pain and acted as though he couldn’t be killed, whilst simultaneously decided he was jonesin’ for a few bites of live human face flesh.
So you’re right, Jeff was a smarter man than I feel I would have been in his shoes that night.
@@StalwartShinobi his father even said it was times when Austin was acting weird that he told Austin to snap out of it and Austin started acting normal again kinda like when him his friend and sister went to the beach that day and he lashed out and threatened them it was so many red flags that they should’ve been gotten him help that he needed
Shame it was the keystone cops who rocked up!
Stories like these are exactly why mental health should be discussed openly and without shame.
I agree with you
This is way deeper than mental illness … way deeper
@Mike Mercury same
@@Wetcouchi34567 potentially, I could agree with you. But I really believe he suffered a brain damage from his football activities. Which made him completely delusional.
What's mind blowing is in the past I'm sure situations like this were just dismissed as demonic possession or straying away from god. religion is such cowardly and disingenuous cancer
I swear I will never get bored of mr ballen’s stories. He always keeps them super interesting and is great at story telling
thank you!
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I totally agree...I look forward to every story! 😳😍
That chapter
@@MrBallen
Hey MrBallen, just FYI, but RUclips is supposed to be notifying me of your shorts channel and I've yet to receive a SINGLE notification.
I'd love to see update videos on unresolved stories like this. Like I know I can look up the info myself but your ways of storytelling is absolutely enthralling and captivating
He was found not guilty.
He was found not guilty by reason of insanity and committed to a mental hospital.
His family is honestly more to blame then him. Imagine having a son who thinks he’s half horse and doesn’t sleep because he thinks there’s demons everywhere and just letting him do so.
And lock the doors lol
Their solution was to lock their bedroom doors and let him do demon guard duty. Unbelievable
I mean to be fair he was over 18, so since he’s legally an adult the family couldn’t really do anything to physically stop him, only thing they could really do was baker act him & they were already trying/planning to use that on him after they realized it wasn’t the drugs making him act crazy, sadly it wasn’t in time, but yee the family did still fuck up since there was definitely enough red flags that they should’ve realized he needed some serious help way sooner tho,
especially after he attacked his dad at the restaurant, like they should’ve immediately tried to have him baker acted after that, since that was the first time he did something violent instead of just acting crazy, so they should’ve realized that he might potentially end up attacking someone else after that
@@lukepercy497 you’d think they would have been afraid to sleep with him running around the house in that state of mind.
@@karendobbs8153 locking their doors alleviated any worries apparently. Like wtf🤯🤯
That's disturbing that after seeing him drinking the vegetable oil and eating the parmesan cheese his mom took him back to the restaurant like nothing happened. I think his parents were crazy as well
Very crazy. And cowards.
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Yes! Lol I thought the same thing. Why on earth would you take him back to the restaurant after he drank vegetable oil with Parmesan cheese?
That sounds like pretty normal middle class avoidance to me tbh
No, not crazy, but rather clueless and dumbfounded and didnt know how to address his issues properly. The word " crazy" should not be thrown around so loosely.
I absolutely love the way he’s descriptive of every story he tells, he makes it much better. Keep up the good work!
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Also clear and easy to follow!
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@@stormhawk1625 who asked get lost
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Austin’s family is solely to blame for this. They should have checked him into the psych ward the second he said he was protecting them from demons.
Right, but they believe in gods angles and demons. that why they thought it's no big deal.
How different would it be if he said, "I'm protecting you from the tooth fairy", big difference but they are the same.
Both are equally imaginary, made up things. yet on statement sounds possible while the 2nd saound crazy. This is the world we live in because we are afraid to accept the truth.
@@stevestelly3063 what?????
@@ketchup143 MAnkind has Created thousands of God's that are no longer belived in...
Now you just have One More to go.
They could have. Instantly. They were not waiting for some BS to go through because The Baker Act doesn't have any BS. The Baker Act is actually unreasonable power in the hands of the family. Other states don't have it. When my family did it to me repeatedly to punish me, I moved to a different state.
@@stevestelly3063 What if he had been doing all those things and said "I'm protecting you all from flesh eating bacteria". Would you say the same? You're missing the forest for the trees. The issue is the obsessive, compulsive behavior. Not the subject of the obsession. Hopefully you see how flawed your point is.
While listening to John's stories I realized it's kinda like listening and visiting an awesome friend tell these true but crazy tales. Not many people have this storytelling gift, but if you've got it you should share some stories!
Just like that:) !
So true, I fall asleep listening to him telling these stories, as his voice is relaxing
Thank you!!
@@MrBallen have you done a story about the forest in Japan that has the nick name of the suicide forest? Also I love listening to your stories, I have really bad anxiety I listen to your voice and it relaxes me so thank you for your channel
@@dawnh157 yes he has
I am completely dumbfounded how Austin's family ignored his outlandish behaviour. The fact, that he was going completely mental, while they just sat in a restaurant the whole time, his mother even driving him back after seeing him doing something completely batshit insane, it's like they thought that if they're gonna ignore the problem it's gonna disappear.
Because he was an honor student, played sports and was a pre-med student at good University. On paper he was golden. Amazing this can actually happen to people.
Denial is so huge and powerful in some people that they come across as not fully competent. Well, I guess it's fair to say they are not.
I thought the exact same thing. Like what were they thinking?!? They should be prosecuted somehow also.
@@jpmcfluffies9451 off with their heads!!
My experience has been that this is how "happy" people are. They don't worry about stuff or let anything get to them. Their advice is always somewhere around "stop thinking so much about it, and just be happy with your life, and things will work out". They've never had a real problem, so they can't understand how anyone else can have one. Just do like they do and everything will work out great in the end. It did for them, so it will for you too. They know this for sure. You can't complain to happy people, because they can't understand problems and find it hard to believe that you have one. They think you're just making it all up, and are confident that you'll just "get over it" soon enough.
Excellent story-telling. Hell of a story......
It’s equally disturbing and infuriating that his parents (two medical professionals) did nothing all summer even when the signs were there.
Right his mom is a pharmacist so she has knowledge of what the meds would do to him
Well said, Sedd.
@Youza Liya this monster? A man suffering a psychotic break is a monster? Then you go and make it even worse by playing the race card? The only monster I see here is the one you look at in the mirror. Yes it's horrible that a black man would have been shot. It's also horrible that you think any person who's suffering from a psychotic break is a monster. Anyone including you could suffer from a psychotic break and do something just as horrific as he did. Heaven forbid you ever have something happen to you that your mind is pushed beyond the breaking point.
Most likely to protect their image.
Tells ya how smart some of these medical professionals really are huh.. Lol
My brother was acting erratic, running in the street screaming "they are coming". Wonderful neighbors called me about it and I called for an ambulance. He was held for 72 hours and then I along with my mother demanded he be committed until a long term mental health care plan was implemented. Was the care perfect? No. Was my brother angry at me? Yes.
Ten years later my brother is doing well and has never hurt anyone. Hallucinations are always serious, and way beyond what families can handle on their own.
damn. I have a lot of respect for you, because something like that is done for one reason: love.
Never happened
Youre a piece of shit & all you did was traumatise your brother.
And he was right, stupid, they were coming, and now they're here your government has been stolen and you are this aggressors chattle.
@@UNcommonSenseAUS bro wtf are you even talking about
@@UNcommonSenseAUS youre tweaking homie
i'm 14 minutes into this video and i'm at a loss at how negligent his family was. Those
weren't "weird behaviors." Those were red flags. my family would have had me at a hospital getting blood work and ct scans.
At the restaurant, there's no way he keeps walking away and his sister doesn't bring up "y'know he tried to walk into traffic a moment ago. said he was testing his immortality." what a dumb, useless family.
Yeah I stopped at 13:30 because I was like whatever happens is the family’s fault for being like, oh hey our brother/son is going crazy! Wow!… how sad.
Well they had him Baker so
Serious-SERIOUS red flags. I'm at a loss- peoples live ruined- and destroyed and this mom's just gonna drop her son back of at a restaurant knowing he's supposed to be eating with his other family and he's just leaving the restaurant likes it's an amusement ride, the vegi oil ... Jesus. I've seen this personally and really you have to make the call to emergency services... Cause you just never know how someone is gonna go
I have Bipolar Disorder, when I was getting bad my patents immediantly phone the Mental health team. (I live in Scotland) I spent 6 weeks in hospital got my diagnosis and am on meds. But I have been in hospital a few times.
It is so bloody tragic for all. But I think he should have been taking in and faster than it was. Seriously ill man... why is he in jail? I hope it's a psych one, it would be here in my country
@@liwiathan they were going to, yes. So that's something?
Some families are fuxkin useless. (My family likes to ask for prayers, not very proactive but ok, except "ask for prayers" = divulge very personal information to as many people as possible, it's gross). I hope his parents were clueless, not malicious. 💔
I just love Mr. Ballen's videos. Not once have I been disappointed.
Austin's parents remind me of the time I had a mental break that involved self harm in the middle of high school and my parents told me that they'd never been more embarrassed. These types of people only care about their image.
lets be honest, embarrassing them was likely the point. had a girlfriend once who used to "self harm" she just loved the shock attention and how she could use it to manipulate people.
@@TheNitroG1 Pretty rude to assume everyone's as manipulative as your ex, don't you think? I didn't even realize what I'd done until the friends I was sitting with started screaming about it. Hell, I didn't even remember sitting down with them.
@@Ariye heyo :) dunno what’s up with that FIRST reply 😬 but I’m very sorry your parents had that reaction and I truly hope you’re doing better now and you are worth more than your “parents image” and are getting help
@@TheNitroG1 yeah sure. Austin was fucking crazy you pos.
That's what I thought
When he was not sleeping, and protecting his family from demons; it's totally irresponsible of the family not to have intervened. The dude was, very clearly, in a psychotic episode. The family's apathy is what killed these people. What a tragedy, for all of the victims - including, in my opinion, Austin.
My thoughts exactly
Have you ever been around this shit?
You can’t help somebody who doesn’t want to help themselves. He fucked his head up on drugs that’s 100% certain, was it the family’s job to know and fix that?
No.
I’ve been a heroin/meth addict, have had family members (my dad and a cousin) lose their mind on meth and it’s something you can’t really control.
Just remember this - some of these people actually have to LIVE this everyday, you’re just watching this shit for entertainment and commenting like you know what’s up
Edit: I’m not even saying this from the point of view of a family member, I’m saying this as the addict. In my situation (glad I never lost my mind, I do think there has to be underlying shit), I would have NEVER expected my family to have to do something for me, it was bad enough I was already hurting them just by scaring them into thinking I might end up like my dad.
Again: it’s not the families job to diagnose and fix shit, nor was it their fault. This is just a tragic situation all around.
@@dankone3 you're assuming a lot here...
@@dankone3 yes and I’ve done drugs myself and I’m still sane I think personally it was more his whole childhood being made to play football and having a coache piss him off to play is fucking retarded
@@dankone3 I'm also a meth addict, with 18 months of sobriety under my belt, this month.
I spent nearly 3 years in a psychiatric facility. I know exactly what I'm talking about.
My life was saved by exactly the type of outside intervention which should have occurred in Dustin's situation.
Jeff's 911 call reveal a critically wounded guy more concerned about the unconscious woman than himself, God bless him.
was worried about his dead neighbor
I hope he doesn't feel guilty for the fact his call came too late for them or that he was mistaken in the fact Austin hadn't followed him because he clearly did his best to save his neighbour
indeed🙏
@@meggoldnight That’s exactly what I was thinking, most people would probably blame it on themselves and would spend ages thinking over how they could’ve saved the victim, but I hope Jeff doesn’t feel guilty. He really was trying to help and was being remarkably selfless during the attacks.
@@harrysbuttons.6283 If he had stayed he would have died also and there would have been no call to the cops/medical, and, John would have still been attacked and killed. He did the right thing and should be considered a hero. How many people would have either ignored or called 911 without attempting to help?
That was an awesome story. I'm absolutely enthralled when listening to you.
The dads girlfriend was the most responsive person. After one interaction (and I’m sure a lot of conversations with her boyfriend about Austin beforehand) she immediately called the police when he acted strange and aggressive.
@UCtsknhEy77_tQ9Ys6022rBw he wasnt living with his dad since his mom kept the house. Plus he was technically still in school, in a different city.
Yeah I picked up on that to.
"He doesn't want to attack the officers, he just wants to eat John's face." That's a hell of a piece of writing, there.
Edit: It just occurred to me that Mr. Ballen's name is also John. Must have felt creepy to say; hope he got it in one take.
Sounds like another day in my home state of Florida tbh
im no longer watching the video
I never thought I would hear someone say that but yet here we are...thanks to a deranged Florida man 🤦
Sorry but the fact he went back several times to bite the man is infuriating. Why did they not shoot him? Taser and dog didn't work. IDK but even if everything happened so fast I'm assuming that's what they train for, to react fast and save people. I'm so upset.
You can't make that shit up.
The fact he kept journals saying he didn’t feel right and googled symptoms for 6 months and didn’t feel safe to tell his parents says it all. Then for his family to see first hand how he was and still nobody was called in or he wasn’t hospitalized. You can see the pressure he had to be the perfect son. I’m so sorry for the victims families, I’m also sad for him. This all could have been prevented. Mental illness is real and there is no shame in it.
I heard a theory stating that in some cases of schizophrenia there is actually a power and control game in the family where the schizophrenic person is under a lot of pressure. There is abuse of some form and unspoken rules. The "unspoken" rules matches this case as the family would refuse to talk about certain topics/problems.
Not to mention his father saying "what's wrong with you?"
I was literally about to say the same thing. Of course, it's a tragedy for the families of those he killed, but I also feel just... fucking terrible for the poor man himself. He desperately needed help and tried so hard to get it, but had no idea how, and he was clearly terrified of himself and lost. Had even one of his family actually taken action and taken him to the hospital or something right when he first started acting strange, they could've not only saved the lives of two people, but also saved poor Austin from himself.
Mental Health care in most of the world is severely underfunded and under utilized. Lots of people who have done heinous things have given many warnings beforehand and nothing gets done.
i hope his parents get charged with neglect or something. any normal person would have seen the red flags and gotten their kid to a hospital and get help.
There's something about your narrating style that is really compelling. It is like listening to a friend share an anecdote, save for the horror and screaming sound cues that I have mixed feelings about. Fluent, not flat in delivery and not over the top. You have serious potential for story telling and podcasts!
I’ve read this story several times, but no one has covered it like you have. You’ve added details I’d never heard of. In my opinion, it’s almost equal to negligence that his family totally ignored his signs of mental illness, and it’s not like they were small signs, either. In today’s world with all the awareness we have of mental illness, I just can’t wrap my head around the fact that they didn’t have a clue. I just find it hard to understand. Thank you for a great job!
I totally agree. I think the mother was probably afraid of him and that is why she drove him back to have dinner with his father .
They really should have taken him to a mental hospital.
Maybe the parents were in denial or willingly ignorant?
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and it started with social anxiety. he felt he wasnt social enough. so he clearly had anxiety around people then they surround him with people? and even make fun of his clothing?!? like wth
Imagine your brother trying to run face-first in to traffic, claiming he was immortal (in a fully serious way), and then the very next thing you do is send him to eat in a restaurant like nothing happened??
Pains me to see how this situation could have been so easily avoided.
Mental health deniers or ppl who couldn’t handle the “stigma” of having a mentally ill relative. pathetic and contemptuous.
I’m wondering why they didn’t call anyone if he was gone for 30+ whole minutes!
Have some empathy. There is nothing in our society that prepares you to deal with insanity. There is little to no support or help or even a clear understanding about what goes wrong inside a person’s mind. Maybe try to put yourself in their shoes. How could they know? How could they fix him? Just seems like everyone is blaming instead of understanding the absolute tragedy that is mental healthcare. Families are literally clueless because there is no reasonable societal discourse surrounding insanity/mental health. We know about TBi, and it’s impact on people, yet football is still glorified. Just try to understand the dilemma and difficulty in which families of the mentally ill find themselves.
Just look at the restaurant footage when he hits his dad! They just gently pushed him back and reacted too casual... It's insane to me how they enabled this by being so negligent!
@@I_love_musiccc lol no issues there lmao
Man…this guy can tell a story like no other. No pauses, no stuttering, no sudden loss of thought or anything and is fully engaged, articulate and detailed the whole time (I get it’s edited, but still!). Well done @MrBallen ! Keep
up the great content.
Check out Dan Cummins podcast called Timesuck. He's another amazing story teller.
ummm, it's called editing
I can't get over how much information he acquired to tell this story - he must have conducted dozens of interviews with police, witnesses, family, neighbors, friends of Austin, restaurant folks, etc, etc. If they make a movie out of this, they need Ballen to assist!
No pauses ey? Watch closely.
Yep, theyre called jump cuts. But he is a good storyteller
That family is crazy to the very least. They should be charged too for absolute neglect.
So instead of getting their son the help he clearly needed, they LOCKED THEIR BEDROOM DOORS.
That's life 🤣
A similar thing happened in Sweden as well. A pair of married MDs had a love child quite in late age. They had kids who were in the teens or grown up when this child was born, he turned weird and agressive in late teens. Eventually he improved somewhat and moved to go to university. But he soon ditched his studies for drugs became homeless and such. His grown up siblings tried to encourage the parents to deny him to come home to them. They also locked their bedroom doors at the time he was at their home. Though they had sought care for him, he was hospitalized at a couple of times but as soon as he got better he was let out, and then he mismanaged his medicine, nutrition and sleep. And used streetdrugs. He killed his parents, they caught him quite quick because afterwards he went in his bloody clothes to buy cigarettes and then several people who came across him rang police about a guy with massive fresh bloodstains on his clothes is strolling around.
Its so easy to judge people for things you haven't had to experience.
@@johannas.l.brushane2518 Wow, that’s really sad. Especially since it seems like the parents were trying.
@@secondsea2 Yea, it was like reading a horror story when it was in the news some year ago.
This is why mental health is so important. If people around Austin had taken his weird behaviours more seriously, so he could have gotten the help he needed, this might've never happened
A lot of the time, when teens and young and adults start acting like this, people write it off as some kind of phase, and indeed, working psychiatry as i do, i often find myself having to explain to parents that no, their child doesnt have schizophrenia, they are just a huge fan of goth rock.
On the other hand, i find myself dealing with adults who everyone thought were just big fans of Evanescence, who suffer crippling depression, and found solace in the music.
Every criminal lives in a vaccum until they commit their crimes. - Society.
Yeah because nobody would do drugs ever if it made them feel like this.
They tried to have him committed at the very beginning. The Baker Act won't allow anyone to forcefully commit someone against their will, unless they have done something violent. Apparently, they did get him to go willingly, because the video pointed out that he had drugs prescribed by psychiatrists in his system.
Why don't the cops ever kill the right people.
The minute the parents felt like they had to lock their doors, was the minute they should have asked for help. If any member of my family showed such 'unusual' traits it would be my duty to as a caring responsible adult to do the right thing. I see a failing of responsibility by the family in this case - and that's not to justify what this kid did - it was atrocious - but I really think there were earlier signs.
That’s wtf I’m screaming!!!!! WHYYYYY was he not being held prior to this for evaluation at the VERY least?!?!?
Exactly what I thought. I freaking don’t understand
Yeah, with the whole story given here, the parents are certainly somewhat culpable. You find someone in the kitchen drinking vegetable oil, you don't take them back to a restaurant, you fucking take them to the hospitable for a psych evaluation.
Had he been my son I woukd have taken him to the nearest pych department.
The second he tried to walk into traffic to test his immortality, he proved to be a danger to himself and should have been committed.
Instead, it sounds like his family just kept talking about getting him psych help but never actually doing so. Like "Oh, he's acting so weird! He should see a doctor or something. Oh well, guess I'll just lock my bedroom door at night so he doesn't come in while I'm sleeping. He's probably on drugs and we've no idea what he'll do next. Let's watch movies together! Hey Austin, you need psych help. Glad you agree. Now let's stop talking about this and go to a restaurant." =/
Drugs, schizophrenia and rage is a powerful combination. 😮😓☮️🙏🏼
So many signs that Austin needed help came long before they sat down in that restaurant like he hadn't just tried to "test his immortality" outside. I feel like this was a preventable tragedy.
it seems like he wanted help but whatever he was suffering from did the opposite. instead of telling his family he's suffering from disturbing hallucinations, he said he was guarding them from demons. instead of telling his family he was suicidal, he said he was immortal and tried to prove it. it's sad to think that possibly because his father's side wasn't helping him properly, he went to his mother for help and she just dropped him back off where he started.
@@evander1205 Right. Almost like they could see him spiraling, but just thought that his mental decline would fix itself over time.
@@evander1205 I think the family and friends did not communicate at all and if they did, they had no sense of urgency.
They shoot have just let him do it
Right? Our little family meal would’ve ended immediately and the adults would’ve takin us all home while calling the psych ward/corona-cops to meet us there.
Once he didn't fit into their idea of a good boy they forgot about him. Drug induced schizophrenia is truly one of the most horrific things that can happen to someone
Was thinking about this too. His parents treated him like a trophy kid and only supported him if it benefitted them, but didn't support him when he needs mental help even before he started using drugs.
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Maika...
I read through quite a few comments... And in MY OPINION, yours by far is THEE BEST!!
Also, IN MY OPINION (so nobody better try to come for me!)
I feel that his parent's did NOT try to get him help, because they were low key embarrassed! In THEIR "snobby ass, wealthy minds" they did NOT want anyone to find out their son had mental health issues! To me, that is just as VILE as what he did to his victims!! 😠😠
You know... They have $$ and were most likely considered to be "influential" in their town... 🙄🙄....
I swear on everything Holy... If he were MY son AND I had their kinda $$...
NOTHING would have stood in my way to get my son HELP!!!
In 99.9% of cases like this, I would NEVER side with the perpetrator.... But this case is totally different...
By NO means am I try to justify what Austin did...
BUT, HIS FAMILY DESERVES to take the blame for 2 people dying, and one man seriously injured!!!
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I've seen it firsthand before, it is terrifying. A good friend of mine has schizo-affective disorder bipolar type and had a major drug problems which definitely made things worse. She's been found NGRI several times over the years, and she just admitted herself to in-patient therapy. She's doing really well now as far as I know.
I went through it. It's a mess but I came through it and I'm fine now. kinda, still have bad days, but I'm much more in control now.
Drug induced or drug revealed?
His parents didn't do anything because he would be an embarrassment to their family. I have heard about it too many times, wealthy or popular people want their children hidden from having problems, that is just horrible abuse.
That’s why they say. all kids deserve parents but not all parents deserve kids
Too true. Disgusting….
True, my evangelist family thought they could pray "it" away, my nephew jumped in front of a train at Christmas eve.
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Wrong. His parents were convinced he was using drugs. They thought keeping him busy and under their watch would keep him off drugs, hence fix him.
By the time they realized this is not a drug issue, and HAD HIS APPOINTMENT set, it was too late. Just days away from his scheduled appointment
Dude got possessed 😭 honestly really sad and tragic
Jeff’s a good guy. He got stabbed 5 times and the first thing he was wondering is if his neighbor was okay.
I noticed that, too! He is very good.
Jeff from earthbound 0:
Sad that he probably lives with guilt from not being able to save his two neighbors. Survivors guilt is a very real thing. 😢
This would 100% be my neighbor. He's a good guy.
@@letseeheresecondmotion9562 weirdo
Imagine how crazy your everyday normal behavior has to have become that "drinking straight vegetable oil" is considered a "meh, let's make sure he gets back to his dinner with family friends" situation
Needless to say, there is controversy about the use of brominated vegetable oils “Bromism” can cause confusion, hallucinations and even psychosis. Add to this neurological abnormalities, memory impairment and gross skin postules, and you’ve got a nasty condition. This kid by his own mothers admission was chugging vegetable oil which is brominated vegetable oil. meaning that his story about what he saw could be 100% true. Now why he did the things he did before he chugged the oil in his kitchen, i have no clue. but this does explain the story he told about seeing the face and stuff. surprised no dr told the cops about this.
The denial of Austin's family is absolutely grotesque. How can they be so negligent and naive?
the same reason that serial killers' parents call their children "mommys sweet little boy" theyre equally fucked or just unable to register anything that is in front of their eyes
love is blindness ...even familial love
My ex said there was nothing wrong with our oldest and fought me at every turn to keep him home. Less than a year after aging out of Boystown he shot himself in the temple at his mom's house before Thanksgiving dinner.
@@midwestengineer3235 that is devastating, I'm so sorry!
I agree. I was surprised to hear that it was brushed off since John's parents both have medical degrees.
A friend of mine a few years back his son was acting the same patrolling the house in the middle of the night saying there was Demon's ..he had taken ecstasy four times.. his son is in an institution to this day... Beyond beyond sad.