Allie suggestion, I believe you could drimel out the end to slide up an inch, and secure with a spot of rubber cement glue. This should take away face touch/pop off issues. (2) If you have the green have you tested it under the black light? My mossy oak nocks reflect the uv light from flashlight at night from 15 yards. I have ordered some FOBs and will test soon. I just finished painting on my bow, love it! It's only for target practice and was only $80 anyway. Shortly to get single pin sight, drop away, and range finder. Rhineheart calls!
Although I thought these were junk. I do keep a few in my bag on extended trips. If I clip a vane or arrow isn’t flying right I can rip the other two off and slide a FOB on. They’re good for in a pinch, not much beyond that IMO. 🤘🏻🏹
First of all, excellent follow through! Well done. As far as FOB, you really need to compare it at distance with some wind and some fixed blades in order to know how they compare to vanes and fletching.
I have not done enough archery to know if it’s good or bad, but there were palms in the background! If that’s a park, I wonder if I could collect seed? I’m more of a horticulturist as you can tell, but I just found your channel.
Allie ..I’m impressed with your presentation, articulation, ability to communicate with your followers etc . I really liked your video on cutting up a deers rear leg quarter..It’s a chore getting by the silver skin. I have a little knowledge in archery like I’ve been shooting since I’ve been 10 years old. Now that I’m 87 I look 👀 back at past state, regional and national Championships of which I’ve won … Instinctive, 3 fingers under , then compound and presently my crossbow.With over 💯 whitetail deer harvested.. I have shot with World class champion Ann Weber Hoyt and Howard Hill..I’ve been an Olympic Archery Coach and it’s time for a few suggestions for you ..Your release is flawless…but… no way use a kisser button unless you weren’t using a release which is causing your draw length to be longer .. With the kisser button on it allows you to touch your nose ..and now you can see the complete alignment of your shaft with the bullseye which is critical.. nuff said for me except I retired from the vertical bow at 17 Robin Hood’s .. To do it over I would have stayed with traditional 🏹 archery .. If I may say in passing by..””YOUR CUTE “”P.S.- Please be careful when sliding your hand back/forth on your carbon shaft if it’s fractured.. Your aware of splinters, right ?
I have a dozen and haven't had any problems with em. The thingsI've noticed is at longer distances they drop a bit more then my 4 fletch and might change your anchor point because the Fob sits so far back.. at least further back from my AAE vanes. Definitely like the simplicity. Can't group shoot em but that's not a problem. Yes they've been out for a long time now but just recently started to pop off again. 👍🏽👍🏽. One thing for sure is they definitely buck the wind like a champ. Put em out to 80-105 yards in high crosswinds and didn't have any problems... Great review and keep em coming....
When I first started shooting a compound bow I bought FOBs for the simple reason that you can break 2 sections of the ring and they will still fly straight. Just get a wave in a vain and see how your arrows flys
I think if you're a long range archer dropping some big dollars for out west or highland mountain hunts I can see the benefit of these on those hunts in the wind where you only get a few days to hunt and you've got to make every opportunity count.
I have been shooting FOBs for the last 5 years. They are awesome. I keep 2 arrows fletched for paper tuning but I strip all the other ones, or just buy shafts.
For paper tuning I've cut the ring off a couple old fobs so it's just the three blades. Works good👍 been killing things with fobs for about 5 years too.
Been shooting them for years. You did an awesome presentation. I will say its important to be sure that the nock is seated all the way into the FOB as they seem to loosen up with use.
Nice Review. I have been shooting FOB's for years and still shoot fletched arrows and FOBS. One thing you didn't mention is they are great for traveling. Package all the FOBs up and don't have to worry about bent fletches after cramming your case full. When I shot a deer the FOB fell off and marked exactly where she was standing and made an easy pass through with a bare shaft ! Defiantly worth having in the tool kit !
Agreed I got two packs and I’d throw them in the trash before I’d give them away! They’re fun just to shoot and play with but for hunting or target shooting standard fletching is better. They tend to be hard to shoot for starters because of the anchor point. They are trash and a waste of money
@@lynnbowers4704 I didn't like them because they're quite a bit louder than standard fletched arrows and like mentioned they can get in the way of your anchor point. They're good for if you're in a pinch though.
If you are worried about the string angle, face, or arrow loss problem, you could simply slide FOB on the arrow, and put a small piece of shrink tube behind it to hold it forward a bit. NTE electronics makes shrink tubing that has adhesive on the inside, a 3-1 shrink ratio, and can be purchased from Amazon. I can't say whether it would work for this, but It should. However, if it doesn't pop off the arrow, you may not get a pass through. Though with turkey that can be a plus.
For someone not wanting to do a wholesale change over, these would be a great addition to a hunting pack in the event that you loose a fletching while out in the field and you don't have the ability to re-fletch the arrow out in the field. You could remove the other fletchings and install one of these to get you back to a full quiver until you get home.
i actually found this interesting - even though i dont shoot Bows. But how well structured and put together was this video - spot on, well explained and well presented
Try a bare shaft @20yards along side of the FOB that will tell you if its is stabilizing your arrow better then your fletched shafts! Also try it with some BHs
I’ve been shooting these for 8 years they kick ass! The mounts on my wall are proof. Usually people that don’t like them are people to dumb to set them up.
Boxing 101 yooo buddy took that up the dick hole. Calm down man. He's just saying she's good looking. We aren't gunna call a hot girl ugly now would we? Or would that make you feel better beta?
Also they are a bandaid for not having enough FOC. Try upping to a 20%or better with a lighter weight shaft and heavier insert and tip to make up for the weight.
Be careful to not aim at the same point or you will William tell a few arrows, gets expensive. Cross winds do not affect fobs. I've been shooting these for 8 years.
I assume by the way it was installed between the arrow and the nock that when the arrow passes through and the FOB comes off, the nick comes off too...is that right?
I’ve seen them. Only change I’ve made in fletching is to the 2” ones. They seem to be quieter. They are interesting. If I can pick up a few without buying a dozen I’ll give them a try.
I have used FOBs in the past & may use them again. They def have pros and cons. Pros= They steer fixed blades better than anything, they do reduce wind drift at hunting distances, they are easy to replace in the field, arrow spine is less critical with these. Cons= Not great for grouping(although they still fly great damaged), can be an issue with face contact, more arrow drop at longer distances, have to use a full drop away rest.
@@OutdoorsAllie Also I would only use them with a limb driven rest and not a rest that relies on the spring to drop the rest out of the way. I had a spring rest not drop once & the FOB blew it to pieces. This won't be an issue with a limb driven rest. ;)
Allie ten years ago I met a archer on the practice range BRIONES IN MARTINEZ he was shooting FOB say twenty yards at times the arrow impact knock off the FOB
I have watched many reviews on these FOBs. You can cut the outside plastic off and it will still fly strait. They are pretty amazing. I have not yet tryd these yet but I have been wanting to try them. Maybe do another one on the FOB and cut one section out and anouther till there is only the van parts left. Awesome review thanks
After I watched some video where a dude ripped one of these fobs apart and it kept shooting well decided to pass on these.. I think he was trying to highlight the selling point that they can get very badly damaged and still fly great,but in reality to me it just proved that the shape and so on has actually nothing to do with how well an arrow flys..
Im just starting in archery. Currently fiddling with a recurve. Cant wait to get a compound and experiment with new tech like this. Who needs to go to mars when there is so much to do here on earth.
Hmmmmm very interesting…can you paper tune using a “FOB”? Can you use a “FOB” with a flipper rest ? Can “FOBs” be use in a target competition? Anyway good product review video 😎
Hello my friend hope you are well and having a great Weekend so far. Just found you today and really pleased we have your videos are awesome. Fog, wow haven't heard of them before. Does look interesting. Thanks so much for sharing your experience with us really appreciate it keep up the good work hun. Stay safe and take care my friend catch up soon 👍❤️😉
Id like to switch to something easier than having to fletch an arrow but I shoot a short bow and I’ve had the same form since i was 14 and I’m not changing it for a fob
Great video and I was thinking about those really for 1 reason. I hunt CO... It's ALWAYS windy. I'm assuming that in 10 years, they improved the product. I'm really 50/50 on whether I want it to pop off on a pass through. I use lighted knocks and can see them clear as day hitting (or missing) my target also in recovery of my arrow. Shot a deer with my lighted knock at 50 yards quartering away a tad. Arrow went through and just barely hung in the far side of the deer. Deer took 2 jumps, arrow came out. Had a perfect line of where I shot the deer and where it ran due to I could see the arrow. Picked up a straight blood trail and got my deer. So, I don't know..??
FOB's were designed to fall off when shooting a deer, hog etc so as to get a full pass thru. Two wound holes cause the animal to expire faster. A lot of people don't think about the fact that when a deer gets wounded with just a entrance wound and no exit wound, they will crash and lay down and actually pack dirt in the wound to make a bandage the only way they know how, using the dirt for a bandage. When their blood pressure goes back up and they feel better they get up and run off and you don't find them, only where they were laying. With two holes , it is hard for the animal to patch both wounds, and they lose blood too fast and expire much quicker. More humane and quicker way to take a animal. As far as losing the bare shaft when the FOB falls off, you could always use a lighted nock to find the bare shaft. There are new nocks now that will strobe on and off really fast, much like the flashing lights of a police car. That would be easier to spot daytime than just looking for a regular lighted nock. Just my thoughts. I did enjoy the video.
Thanks for the review. I'd expect more stabilization and flight time. Arrow slowing down faster due to round air foil but then flying longer due to aerodynamic lift. Please do a side by side and check field point depth as a guide on how much energy was left in the arrow.
Awesome , i remember them way back but they were decent ..just need a drop away rest . AND the fobs come away from the artow on a pass through , set your sight on a different target each shot , or you will hit the fobs . But a great idea ,just dont try grouping arrows , love that bow , is it an evo evl 32
I have used these on and off for yrs. I jumped on when they 1st came on the market. I did have good luck hunting with them. I had the issue with them affecting my anchor point but they did fly great. I still used a wrap on my shaft which helped finding the shaft after pass through. Just place the wrap up 1" to allow room for the fob. Enjoying your videos
Yeah theyre more of a make do rest that come with kits , not really a long term thing , most people upgrade to drop aways the first WB rests werent great on flimsy vanes ,
They work great for hunting. Take them off during travel and can throw all the shafts in a tube. I shoot big fixed blades in windy country and been loving fobs for years
I would shorten your draw .5" and add a kisser button they kind of got a uncool stigma but i dont know why once you try it you will be in love. Thanks for the video great as always
Mark s I’ve tried short draw length and now it’s about where hers is I shoot much better at that position. What is the point of a shorter draw? Is it just making a more consistent anchor point because that doesn’t make sense to me plus if you’re a woman you get a little faster Arrow for hunting.
Mark s Well I for one sure welcome constructive criticism that’s why I tried different drawl lengths,I will try anything if I think it may results in better accuracy. I guess my question is why do some think you can anchor better with a shorter draw? I mean don’t you just find that spot and just put it there wherever that maybe?
@its me take things personal much? I don't hunt paper plates i hunt deer and having a kisser button is one less thing to think about when buck fever hits to each there own sorry your so unhappy
Vinyl wrap your arrows. Clean wrap with 90% isopropyl alcohol and let dry. Get blazer vanes and clean with alcohol. Get arizona mini ez fletch (I use right helical). Use gorilla gel super glue. You can't pull the fletchings off with pliers. I've hit a soft spot in the target and had my arrow pass through the target and through the wall of a plywood shed, and the fletchings are tore up but still on the arrow.
@@tonygillahan Yep, that mini puts such a good helical on my arrows. Like perfect if I do my part. Better than my more expensive jigs. Plus it is so fast and easy. The only issue is if you put on too much glue and it gets on the little plastic arms, which also tears a little chunk off my vinyl wrap. I would pay more for an all metal ez fletch mini with some coating that glue doesn't stick to. I'd probably give close to $50 or more for that. The gel superglues are impact resistant so they are not brittle and flex. I think we both found that out but use different brands. The gorilla can also come with a little applicator brush which makes precise application easier. Are you using these with vinyl wraps? The glue sticks so much better to the wraps and if you need to refletch no scraping your expensive arrows, just peel that sucker off! (which can be tough because my bohning wraps are realllllllyyyyy on there) It took me a couple years of trial and error and reading online to figure all this out. I also use gorilla gel superglue for my inserts. They aren't coming out. Never lost an insert with it. When I used "special insert glue" I lost inserts. You just have to know that that arrow is done. You'll never get that insert out if you want to for some reason.
@@MrShysterme I don't use wraps, nah mate. I find the vanes stick to my arrows better without wraps 👌 each to their own though! I know what you mean about the plastic arms on the mini and having to be careful with the glue, that's why I like the gel because it's so controlled and no excess. I just get the gels from a hardware store to and they're so much cheaper than specific archery glues!
1, it seems like you have your draw too long, take maybe a half inch out. 2, don't be slapping the trigger on the release. It's a very bad habit and can lead to inconsistent results. Try using your back muscles to pull your hand thru the release and the shot will break.
My first question when I saw them on your arrow was the pass-through situation. Popping off seems somewhat unlikely to me, plus seems like a big disadvantage. What’s wrong with traditional fletching? I can’t see why this “upgrade” is helpful or necessary.
I live in the windy plains and I may test these a bit to see if windage really impacts them much less. Could have a couple of these in the blind with me. Regardless of what I think of the FOB this was really well thought out and produced, thanks for posting!
*only can be used on compounds *only can be used with drop down rests *hard to find arrow when fletching pops off on pass through,.the main reason fletchings are bright is to find the arrow not "mark the point of pass through" *interferes with form, atleast whatever amount of form compound shooters actually use......
Allie, I found another Chanel you might like. The channel is called jigging with Jordan. They do spear fishing and bow fishing. They always have families that will eat the fish. They dive in rivers in GAand clean up the river bottom.
You should consider getting a coach to help you with your form. Your front shoulder looks a little compressed which is due to how you’re drawing the bow. Which in turn puts your anchor point to far back & causes you to collapse during the shot. Correcting this will help you hold more steady. NockOn Archery with John Dudley has some great videos. Just my two cents anyways. Practice Practice
Very interesting product and maybe fun to try, but they don’t seem too practical for regular use. Also, I guess you can’t shoot them with a traditional wood bow. Anyway, as usual, love your video. Well done. Mark 👍🙂
Do you mean using Luminoks instead? Because FOBs pop out the knock during a passthrough, the knock is what holds them onto the shaft, so a Luminok would be no help in finding your shaft and point. Best you could do is paint your shafts blaze orange I guess.
If you have a pass through, it would pop off but also your knock would be gone so.... but I have a 32.5 inch draw, but luckily I quit shooting compounds 10 years ago and went to traditional. So feathers😉😁 for me
f.o.b. REALLY stands for forward observation base, i know because i was in a few ! but i dont think ill be switching to these, i just dont like the way they look !
@@OutdoorsAllie i smoked my pb at 30 yds and he was on a full out sprint. I found the heart down by the diaphragm. I severed the heart from the arteries. The only way i found blood was because the fob fell where i shot him and it was only 10 mins after shooting time started.
Enjoyed the review. I had seen them before , never seen anyone shoot them .they seem to shoot really well but concerning the pass-through shot and finding your arrow would be my greatest concern. but I will say this... I like the name.
Eugene, as long as your nocks aren’t extremely tight, pass through is not an issue. Actually there is less resistance during pass through since the arrow is bare after the FOB pops off. As far as finding your arrow most guys and gals use fluorescent or reflectice arrow wraps.
H allie it's been awhile. Great product review. If fob falls off when you shoot an animal I would suggest a color on your shaft maybe neon green or blaze orange so you can find your shafts easier. I had never heard of this product before...but I definitely find it intriguing. Take care guys...God bless you....curt P.s. are you guys gonna put some fresh pork in the freezer. I know Florida is over run with piggies....
Allie suggestion, I believe you could drimel out the end to slide up an inch, and secure with a spot of rubber cement glue. This should take away face touch/pop off issues. (2) If you have the green have you tested it under the black light? My mossy oak nocks reflect the uv light from flashlight at night from 15 yards. I have ordered some FOBs and will test soon. I just finished painting on my bow, love it! It's only for target practice and was only $80 anyway. Shortly to get single pin sight, drop away, and range finder. Rhineheart calls!
No i haven't but thats a good point.
@@OutdoorsAllie found the video "RUclips" > "Find lost hunting arrows using black light". By scannerguy 1968
Although I thought these were junk. I do keep a few in my bag on extended trips. If I clip a vane or arrow isn’t flying right I can rip the other two off and slide a FOB on. They’re good for in a pinch, not much beyond that IMO. 🤘🏻🏹
Never thought of that. Good point!
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First of all, excellent follow through! Well done. As far as FOB, you really need to compare it at distance with some wind and some fixed blades in order to know how they compare to vanes and fletching.
I show that in the next video! Thanks for watching!
Never seen your channel. Thorough, and very good review. Good production quality, also.
Thanks for watching!
Great review, but I think I'll stick with Fletchings.
Agreed
Michael Davis Outdoor Adventures me too
I have not done enough archery to know if it’s good or bad, but there were palms in the background! If that’s a park, I wonder if I could collect seed? I’m more of a horticulturist as you can tell, but I just found your channel.
Im not sure, but thanks for watching.
Allie ..I’m impressed with your presentation, articulation, ability to communicate with your followers etc . I really liked your video on cutting up a deers rear leg quarter..It’s a chore getting by the silver skin.
I have a little knowledge in archery like I’ve been shooting since I’ve been 10 years old. Now that I’m 87 I look 👀 back at past state, regional and national Championships of which I’ve won … Instinctive, 3 fingers under , then compound and presently my crossbow.With over 💯 whitetail deer harvested.. I have shot with World class champion Ann Weber Hoyt and Howard Hill..I’ve been an Olympic Archery Coach and it’s time for a few suggestions for you ..Your release is flawless…but… no way use a kisser button unless you weren’t using a release which is causing your draw length to be longer .. With the kisser button on it allows you to touch your nose ..and now you can see the complete alignment of your shaft with the bullseye which is critical.. nuff said for me except I retired from the vertical bow at 17 Robin Hood’s .. To do it over I would have stayed with traditional 🏹 archery .. If I may say in passing by..””YOUR CUTE “”P.S.- Please be careful when sliding your hand back/forth on your carbon shaft if it’s fractured.. Your aware of splinters, right ?
I have a dozen and haven't had any problems with em. The thingsI've noticed is at longer distances they drop a bit more then my 4 fletch and might change your anchor point because the Fob sits so far back.. at least further back from my AAE vanes. Definitely like the simplicity. Can't group shoot em but that's not a problem. Yes they've been out for a long time now but just recently started to pop off again. 👍🏽👍🏽. One thing for sure is they definitely buck the wind like a champ. Put em out to 80-105 yards in high crosswinds and didn't have any problems... Great review and keep em coming....
Good to know, thanks Mike!
When I first started shooting a compound bow I bought FOBs for the simple reason that you can break 2 sections of the ring and they will still fly straight. Just get a wave in a vain and see how your arrows flys
“Vane” ?
I think if you're a long range archer dropping some big dollars for out west or highland mountain hunts I can see the benefit of these on those hunts in the wind where you only get a few days to hunt and you've got to make every opportunity count.
Can these be used on a recurve bow? It seems like there would be clearance issues.
They will not clear the shelf.
I have been shooting FOBs for the last 5 years. They are awesome. I keep 2 arrows fletched for paper tuning but I strip all the other ones, or just buy shafts.
Good to hear. Thanks!
For paper tuning I've cut the ring off a couple old fobs so it's just the three blades. Works good👍 been killing things with fobs for about 5 years too.
I always enjoy your product reviews! Keep them coming!
Thanks Pete!
Been shooting them for years. You did an awesome presentation. I will say its important to be sure that the nock is seated all the way into the FOB as they seem to loosen up with use.
Good to know. Any other tips?
I like them and can shoot a bareshaft at anytime by removing the FOB.
They fly well and group for me.
There is absolutely NOTHING I didn't like about this video presentation! Well done and enjoyable to watch.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
Hey! You leave that car paint alone!
I would like to see a side by side comparison with fetching! Thanks that was informative🤙😁
Nice Review. I have been shooting FOB's for years and still shoot fletched arrows and FOBS. One thing you didn't mention is they are great for traveling. Package all the FOBs up and don't have to worry about bent fletches after cramming your case full. When I shot a deer the FOB fell off and marked exactly where she was standing and made an easy pass through with a bare shaft ! Defiantly worth having in the tool kit !
Valid point. Thanks Rich!
Nope been there done that. Stick with standard fletchings.
Thanks for the feedback.
Why is that ?
Agreed I got two packs and I’d throw them in the trash before I’d give them away! They’re fun just to shoot and play with but for hunting or target shooting standard fletching is better. They tend to be hard to shoot for starters because of the anchor point. They are trash and a waste of money
Im curious, What made them fun to shoot and play with but not good for hunting & trash?@@zacharyfelkel1970
@@lynnbowers4704 I didn't like them because they're quite a bit louder than standard fletched arrows and like mentioned they can get in the way of your anchor point. They're good for if you're in a pinch though.
love your voice,there is so much passion for life in it...
Thanks Greg!
I'd imagine shorting the draw and a longer loop would help get it off your face using your thumb knuckle as the anchor point
If you are worried about the string angle, face, or arrow loss problem, you could simply slide FOB on the arrow, and put a small piece of shrink tube behind it to hold it forward a bit. NTE electronics makes shrink tubing that has adhesive on the inside, a 3-1 shrink ratio, and can be purchased from Amazon. I can't say whether it would work for this, but It should. However, if it doesn't pop off the arrow, you may not get a pass through. Though with turkey that can be a plus.
Thats an interesting concept. Thanks for the idea!
I like my shrink wrap fletching! Allows me to tune my hunting arrows to my broadheads!
Exactly why I started using them
For someone not wanting to do a wholesale change over, these would be a great addition to a hunting pack in the event that you loose a fletching while out in the field and you don't have the ability to re-fletch the arrow out in the field. You could remove the other fletchings and install one of these to get you back to a full quiver until you get home.
Very good point.
i actually found this interesting - even though i dont shoot Bows. But how well structured and put together was this video - spot on, well explained and well presented
Thanks for the feedback Kevin!
Great review! I've actually already got a package of these but I haven't opened it yet. Now I know what to expect. Thanks!
Hope you enjoy them!
I've been shooting FOB's for years. Both Target and Hunting . . . Super easy field replaceable. Even with lighted Nick's. Keep shooting 🤠👍
Thanks Charles!
Try a bare shaft @20yards along side of the FOB that will tell you if its is stabilizing your arrow better then your fletched shafts! Also try it with some BHs
Good idea!
You might want to try your bareshaft @10yards first tho to be safe! The bare shaft is going to tell you well your bow and arrow build are tuned!
I’ve been shooting these for 8 years they kick ass! The mounts on my wall are proof. Usually people that don’t like them are people to dumb to set them up.
Thanks for the feedback! Seems like most people aren't big fans.
FoB are pretty good. Some archery shops knock them but...damn Allie some how got even better looking
Boxing 101 yooo buddy took that up the dick hole. Calm down man. He's just saying she's good looking. We aren't gunna call a hot girl ugly now would we? Or would that make you feel better beta?
Have a safe holiday folks. 👍🏻🎣
Also they are a bandaid for not having enough FOC. Try upping to a 20%or better with a lighter weight shaft and heavier insert and tip to make up for the weight.
Be careful to not aim at the same point or you will William tell a few arrows, gets expensive. Cross winds do not affect fobs. I've been shooting these for 8 years.
Used them in 2011. I still have 2 tubes if anyone wants them. Red or green
Im interested
I'll take them!
I would like to see how good they are in wind and if the claims are correct . ...
Been using these for years, work great so long as you have a drop down rest. More to track down after it goes through a target though.
I assume by the way it was installed between the arrow and the nock that when the arrow passes through and the FOB comes off, the nick comes off too...is that right?
@@LumberJack-qb1dc yes, exactly.
Thanks for your reply!
I’ve seen them. Only change I’ve made in fletching is to the 2” ones. They seem to be quieter. They are interesting. If I can pick up a few without buying a dozen I’ll give them a try.
Good feedback. Thanks David!
I have used FOBs in the past & may use them again. They def have pros and cons.
Pros= They steer fixed blades better than anything, they do reduce wind drift at hunting distances, they are easy to replace in the field, arrow spine is less critical with these.
Cons= Not great for grouping(although they still fly great damaged), can be an issue with face contact, more arrow drop at longer distances, have to use a full drop away rest.
Good to know. Seems consistent with what others are experiencing. Thanks for the info Simon!
@@OutdoorsAllie Also I would only use them with a limb driven rest and not a rest that relies on the spring to drop the rest out of the way. I had a spring rest not drop once & the FOB blew it to pieces. This won't be an issue with a limb driven rest. ;)
Allie ten years ago I met a archer on the practice range BRIONES IN MARTINEZ he was shooting FOB say twenty yards at times the arrow impact knock off the FOB
Pup is getting bigger ❤
Thanks for another informative video!
Thanks for watching!
I have watched many reviews on these FOBs. You can cut the outside plastic off and it will still fly strait. They are pretty amazing. I have not yet tryd these yet but I have been wanting to try them. Maybe do another one on the FOB and cut one section out and anouther till there is only the van parts left. Awesome review thanks
I plan on doing many more! Thanks for watching Matt.
@@OutdoorsAllie you all doing the NWMC this year?
Great job on demonstrating the fob. Arrow fletching.
Thanks ron!
Thank you for this video. How many did you break before realizing that you can’t group? Really loved the “mischievous” smile after a few shots!
LOL I didn't break any!
After I watched some video where a dude ripped one of these fobs apart and it kept shooting well decided to pass on these.. I think he was trying to highlight the selling point that they can get very badly damaged and still fly great,but in reality to me it just proved that the shape and so on has actually nothing to do with how well an arrow flys..
John lusk uses these , he has done a great review. He also uses a bright coloured wrap that shines really bright if you put a torch beam on it
I'll check it out!
Im just starting in archery. Currently fiddling with a recurve. Cant wait to get a compound and experiment with new tech like this. Who needs to go to mars when there is so much to do here on earth.
Truth! Enjoy the process!
Should weigh them compared to regular fletching, also shoot through a Chrono to see if there is a speed difference. Would be interesting to see.
Very interesting. I'll see if i can find one somewhere.
There is slight speed difference when compared to a standard 3 vein setup@@OutdoorsAllie
Hmmmmm very interesting…can you paper tune using a “FOB”?
Can you use a “FOB” with a flipper rest ?
Can “FOBs” be use in a target competition?
Anyway good product review video 😎
No paper tuning, that's for sure.
Yes, it works with a drop away rest.
Not sure about competition.
Thanks for watching!
F.O.B. Is fresh off the boat
Hello my friend hope you are well and having a great Weekend so far. Just found you today and really pleased we have your videos are awesome. Fog, wow haven't heard of them before. Does look interesting. Thanks so much for sharing your experience with us really appreciate it keep up the good work hun. Stay safe and take care my friend catch up soon 👍❤️😉
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Your channel was recommended by a friend, great content!
Awesome, thanks for watching!!
Put some broadheads on a see how they fly with a broadhead. I'm curious. Thanks.
I will in the next video!
They work fine with broadheads. You can also break these things and as long as there is 1/3 of this thing left, your arrows fly true.
Id like to switch to something easier than having to fletch an arrow but I shoot a short bow and I’ve had the same form since i was 14 and I’m not changing it for a fob
Rat Man hey mate, you should try easy vanes, they are awesome.
easyvanes.com.au/
Great video and I was thinking about those really for 1 reason. I hunt CO... It's ALWAYS windy. I'm assuming that in 10 years, they improved the product. I'm really 50/50 on whether I want it to pop off on a pass through. I use lighted knocks and can see them clear as day hitting (or missing) my target also in recovery of my arrow. Shot a deer with my lighted knock at 50 yards quartering away a tad. Arrow went through and just barely hung in the far side of the deer. Deer took 2 jumps, arrow came out. Had a perfect line of where I shot the deer and where it ran due to I could see the arrow. Picked up a straight blood trail and got my deer. So, I don't know..??
Nice. I haven't used lighted nocks, but I did buy some last year. Maybe i"ll give them a shot.
@@OutdoorsAllie HA!!! Give them a shot. LOL!! 😉
FOB's were designed to fall off when shooting a deer, hog etc so as to get a full pass thru. Two wound holes cause the animal to expire faster. A lot of people don't think about the fact that when a deer gets wounded with just a entrance wound and no exit wound, they will crash and lay down and actually pack dirt in the wound to make a bandage the only way they know how, using the dirt for a bandage. When their blood pressure goes back up and they feel better they get up and run off and you don't find them, only where they were laying. With two holes , it is hard for the animal to patch both wounds, and they lose blood too fast and expire much quicker. More humane and quicker way to take a animal. As far as losing the bare shaft when the FOB falls off, you could always use a lighted nock to find the bare shaft. There are new nocks now that will strobe on and off really fast, much like the flashing lights of a police car. That would be easier to spot daytime than just looking for a regular lighted nock. Just my thoughts. I did enjoy the video.
Thanks for the input Paul.
Thanks for the review. I'd expect more stabilization and flight time.
Arrow slowing down faster due to round air foil but then flying longer due to aerodynamic lift.
Please do a side by side and check field point depth as a guide on how much energy was left in the arrow.
I like that idea. Thanks Allen!
What about a pass threw? I think this thing would go flying like a spring. And good luck finding a arrow shaft in leaves.
I've thought about that as well.
Awesome , i remember them way back but they were decent ..just need a drop away rest . AND the fobs come away from the artow on a pass through , set your sight on a different target each shot , or you will hit the fobs . But a great idea ,just dont try grouping arrows , love that bow , is it an evo evl 32
Do a side by side comparison you’ll see then why they are novelty more than a good idea.
One of these days I will do that!
I have used these on and off for yrs. I jumped on when they 1st came on the market. I did have good luck hunting with them. I had the issue with them affecting my anchor point but they did fly great. I still used a wrap on my shaft which helped finding the shaft after pass through. Just place the wrap up 1" to allow room for the fob. Enjoying your videos
Thanks for the feedback!
Wait.... “Whisker Biscuit” is an archery term?? I’ve been using it way wrong.
Me too
Kermit 🤦🏻♂️
It's what I call my butthole
Kermit..Ya you know...like a fur burger or bearded clam. I think I will now put a rest on the market called fur burger...watch out whisker biscuit!
Yeah theyre more of a make do rest that come with kits , not really a long term thing , most people upgrade to drop aways the first WB rests werent great on flimsy vanes ,
A second overshoulder shot would prove if those arrow are more stable as claimed. Though you may want to use brighter arrows for that
good for fun. Wouldn't try hunting with them, p.s try adjusting your draw.... shorten it down, pull through with them shots.. LOVE U GIRL😁😁
Thanks James!
Outdoors Allie 😎😘
They work great for hunting. Take them off during travel and can throw all the shafts in a tube. I shoot big fixed blades in windy country and been loving fobs for years
I would shorten your draw .5" and add a kisser button they kind of got a uncool stigma but i dont know why once you try it you will be in love. Thanks for the video great as always
I used to have one. Maybe I'll go back.
Mark s I’ve tried short draw length and now it’s about where hers is I shoot much better at that position. What is the point of a shorter draw? Is it just making a more consistent anchor point because that doesn’t make sense to me plus if you’re a woman you get a little faster Arrow for hunting.
Mark s Well I for one sure welcome constructive criticism that’s why I tried different drawl lengths,I will try anything if I think it may results in better accuracy. I guess my question is why do some think you can anchor better with a shorter draw? I mean don’t you just find that spot and just put it there wherever that maybe?
@its me take things personal much? I don't hunt paper plates i hunt deer and having a kisser button is one less thing to think about when buck fever hits to each there own sorry your so unhappy
Vinyl wrap your arrows. Clean wrap with 90% isopropyl alcohol and let dry. Get blazer vanes and clean with alcohol. Get arizona mini ez fletch (I use right helical). Use gorilla gel super glue. You can't pull the fletchings off with pliers. I've hit a soft spot in the target and had my arrow pass through the target and through the wall of a plywood shed, and the fletchings are tore up but still on the arrow.
How good is the EZ Fletch mini! I use the same except use Loctite superglue gel, no mess and sticks well 👌
@@tonygillahan Yep, that mini puts such a good helical on my arrows. Like perfect if I do my part. Better than my more expensive jigs. Plus it is so fast and easy. The only issue is if you put on too much glue and it gets on the little plastic arms, which also tears a little chunk off my vinyl wrap. I would pay more for an all metal ez fletch mini with some coating that glue doesn't stick to. I'd probably give close to $50 or more for that. The gel superglues are impact resistant so they are not brittle and flex. I think we both found that out but use different brands. The gorilla can also come with a little applicator brush which makes precise application easier.
Are you using these with vinyl wraps? The glue sticks so much better to the wraps and if you need to refletch no scraping your expensive arrows, just peel that sucker off! (which can be tough because my bohning wraps are realllllllyyyyy on there)
It took me a couple years of trial and error and reading online to figure all this out. I also use gorilla gel superglue for my inserts. They aren't coming out. Never lost an insert with it. When I used "special insert glue" I lost inserts. You just have to know that that arrow is done. You'll never get that insert out if you want to for some reason.
@@MrShysterme I don't use wraps, nah mate. I find the vanes stick to my arrows better without wraps 👌 each to their own though!
I know what you mean about the plastic arms on the mini and having to be careful with the glue, that's why I like the gel because it's so controlled and no excess. I just get the gels from a hardware store to and they're so much cheaper than specific archery glues!
Thanks for the tips!
Hey at least she’s honest!!!
Thanks ellie.
1, it seems like you have your draw too long, take maybe a half inch out.
2, don't be slapping the trigger on the release. It's a very bad habit and can lead to inconsistent results. Try using your back muscles to pull your hand thru the release and the shot will break.
Yup, bouncing that trigger, HORRIBLE habit...
Ryan B John Dudley gives an excellent demonstration and explanation of this technique. That's how I learned about it!
They still fly perfect even when broken I’ve used broken fobs and they fly great
Good to know!
My first question when I saw them on your arrow was the pass-through situation. Popping off seems somewhat unlikely to me, plus seems like a big disadvantage. What’s wrong with traditional fletching? I can’t see why this “upgrade” is helpful or necessary.
Just a cool idea! Haven't used it to hunt.
I live in the windy plains and I may test these a bit to see if windage really impacts them much less. Could have a couple of these in the blind with me. Regardless of what I think of the FOB this was really well thought out and produced, thanks for posting!
Thanks for the feedback!
*only can be used on compounds
*only can be used with drop down rests
*hard to find arrow when fletching pops off on pass through,.the main reason fletchings are bright is to find the arrow not "mark the point of pass through"
*interferes with form, atleast whatever amount of form compound shooters actually use......
A bright wrap on the arrow or the arrow tracker you can make with yarn makes finding an arrow easy.
Nice review. As far as the bow string touching the FOB on longer a2a setups, can you slide the FOB up the arrow shaft further?
No, it has a stopper. Thanks for watching Jeff!
Thank you for the detailed review! Super helpful.
Thanks for watching!
@@OutdoorsAllie Of course! We can't wait for more content :)
Can you do some longer distance so we can see the flight? Maybe camera over your right shoulder?
I will in the next video!
Thanks! You rock!
Nice video i think il stick to my bazooka .
I would have liked to see some high speed video of the arrow in flight with comparison shots of fletched arrows.
We will be filming another today!
Nice and thorough review. Do they work with any illuminated nocks that are on the market?
Im sure they do. I can test that though.
Allie, I found another Chanel you might like. The channel is called jigging with Jordan. They do spear fishing and bow fishing. They always have families that will eat the fish. They dive in rivers in GAand clean up the river bottom.
Cool, I'll check it out!
You should consider getting a coach to help you with your form. Your front shoulder looks a little compressed which is due to how you’re drawing the bow. Which in turn puts your anchor point to far back & causes you to collapse during the shot. Correcting this will help you hold more steady. NockOn Archery with John Dudley has some great videos. Just my two cents anyways. Practice Practice
I'd be open to that!
Can we please see the arrow flight instead of just zoomed in on the draw/release? Thanks 😊
Next video, definitely.
Very interesting product and maybe fun to try, but they don’t seem too practical for regular use. Also, I guess you can’t shoot them with a traditional wood bow. Anyway, as usual, love your video. Well done. Mark 👍🙂
Definitely cant use them with a trad bow. Thanks for watching Mark!
luminok helps with retrieval. the biggest advantage of FOB. is they will keep a straight flight path at distance
Do you mean using Luminoks instead? Because FOBs pop out the knock during a passthrough, the knock is what holds them onto the shaft, so a Luminok would be no help in finding your shaft and point. Best you could do is paint your shafts blaze orange I guess.
I use 100% acetone for cleaning arrow shafts for fletching, Same as what you use for your fingernail polish lol
Ya it works well!
Raytheon engineers designed them. I got my trial ones from one of the engineers years ago.
anchor point don't make imp-act point left. Sight setting and arrow rest set up does. IJ saying.
Thanks for the feedback.
Great review!! Also the video quality is 💯💯💯👍👍
Thanks for watching!
I saw these on my dad's test arrows and I needed to know what it was. Ngl I was hoping it had a cooler effect.
You are really getting popular, congrats!
Thanks Kyle!
If you have a pass through, it would pop off but also your knock would be gone so.... but I have a 32.5 inch draw, but luckily I quit shooting compounds 10 years ago and went to traditional. So feathers😉😁 for me
Good deal!
Kevin, the nock is press fit with the FOB so they stay together after the FOB pops off. But you’re the real MVP shooting traditional!
f.o.b. REALLY stands for forward observation base, i know because i was in a few ! but i dont think ill be switching to these, i just dont like the way they look !
It also stands for "Foreign Object Debris", aka stuff you don't want to get sucked into a jet engine, if you work around planes.
Nice video. Did you guys get a New camera? The picture quality seems a lot better.
Yes, we got a new camera a few months ago. Thanks for noticing.
Awesome review very informative ...I like the honesty
Thanks for watching Chris!
Looks like a fun 3D print experiment
Absolutely.
I use fobs on my beamans and they shoot great out of my helium been using them for 5 years.
Good to hear. Thanks Roger!
@@OutdoorsAllie i smoked my pb at 30 yds and he was on a full out sprint. I found the heart down by the diaphragm. I severed the heart from the arteries. The only way i found blood was because the fob fell where i shot him and it was only 10 mins after shooting time started.
Glad to hear a success story! Im excited to test it out.
Enjoyed the review. I had seen them before , never seen anyone shoot them .they seem to shoot really well but concerning the pass-through shot and finding your arrow would be my greatest concern. but I will say this... I like the name.
No doubt! Thanks Eugene!
Eugene, as long as your nocks aren’t extremely tight, pass through is not an issue. Actually there is less resistance during pass through since the arrow is bare after the FOB pops off. As far as finding your arrow most guys and gals use fluorescent or reflectice arrow wraps.
Hey Allie, can you do some more product reviews in the future? Eg, broadheads, string silencers, hunting clothing and such?(:
Absolutely.
@@OutdoorsAllie thanks Allie(: and also, arrows if possible? Like what kind you use for targets and what you use for hunting and such(:
I love your videos. Keep up the good work.
Thank you!
H allie it's been awhile. Great product review. If fob falls off when you shoot an animal I would suggest a color on your shaft maybe neon green or blaze orange so you can find your shafts easier.
I had never heard of this product before...but I definitely find it intriguing. Take care guys...God bless you....curt
P.s. are you guys gonna put some fresh pork in the freezer. I know Florida is over run with piggies....
Intriguing for sure. Its turkey time!
If you dont mind them falling off every shot. They are also noisy and suck in the wind.