It'll still be being balanced even after it comes out. Fast, combo focused characters like Pikachu are going to need to be strong competitively to be usable on a casual level.
Yeah that's cool and all but uh.........Pichu. The real goat. Nah, I ain't watch it yet. But since Pikachu has a few changes, do you think Pichu will resemble Melee Pikachu more?
Sotra Jerry In melee Pichu was a sort of glass cannon/troll pick. He was basically bad Pikachu. Hopefully in this new game they’re doing a different approach, and as I mentioned earlier, this new iteration seems to have some sort of mechanic where he stuns the enemy.
How did he got nerfed besides the UpAir change? From what I've seen, the lag after the PKFire has been shortened and the PK Thunder + Flash seem a bit faster. Didn't see the PKThunder2 yet.
Of course it is dude, is that really a question you need to even ask? Find a secondary for all the characters with reflectors and absorbers, thats why the game features 65+ fighters...
I just wanted to know if the Gravity thing was still as op against projectiles characters. Ness already has struggle to recover. Rosa just denies the possibility to do it. I will have secondaries of course, I guess Lucas isn't really different from SSB4 and there's a lot of new things to discover (Palutena be better pls).
Glad to hear your opinion on it! Would love to hear more about other characters as well. Also I agree from the first looks Pikachu looked pretty good. Same with Sonic and Bayonetta
he looks good af boi. New fair that slides at low percents fap fap fap means that footstool fair lock now isnt at 0. also gordo seems to come out faster.
I'm hype too, but not for any character in specific. I kinda wanna have a fresh start with the new smash so I'm gonna try them all and see which one I like best.
what I want to know is if skull bash is no longer useless for anything but getting back to the stage and the occasional super rare shield break on people who don't know any better
I think the important distinction here will ultimately come down to whether or not Pikachu can consistently kill below 120%, since I believe that percent starts rage if the indicators of the HUD lead me to anything.
Zoom! :3 Very late on this, but essentially, rage is fixed. Now instead of having a bunch of modifiers randomly spread out across percents, it seems to only work after 120%. Not sure it’s more knockback like last time or if they changed it to more damage.
Seems like every other high to top tier was either mostly unchanged or nerfed. This sounds reaaally scary, especially when factoring the overall buff to edgeguards.
I'm still going to main pikachu and will pick up pichu just because. I'm waiting for the game to come out just to see if footstool still combos into instant nair with pikachu.
ESAM are you planning on sticking with Bidou setup for Pikachu in Ultimate? Is that how you were playing when testing this stuff? I'm considering picking up Pika more seriously in the new game but am a bit wary of learning an entirely new controller scheme.
Is there a chance that OoTGanondorf is just a placeholder and we'll get the vastly superior TPDorf, or even HWDorf? Also, c'mon Sakurai, we've been asking for Ganondorf to be his own character since melee, he's still just an Echo Fighter+... Normally this wouldn't be an issue, but we are talking about a character that has absolutely NOTHING to do with C.Falcon or F-Zero. The character has so much reference material and they won't apply it like they do with Link and Zelda...
Smash 64: Top Tier Melee: High Tier Brawl: High Tier Sm4sh: Top Tier Ultimate: Top Tier? He’s consistent. Also does D-Air really spike? Like it send you down?! That is busted! Top 5.
Pichu Got Clout PREACH IT! Hehe..😁👏 Anyways.. I'm so happy that my main boi has returned! He looks cuter and stronger has ever! PiCHU main reunited!!! 😁💕
Pika power forever! I remember pika did get nerfed slightly from demo to full game in smash 4, so I'm sure it will probably happen again, but if most of this stays, pika will easily be top 5
Nintendo : So, Mr. Sakurai, Smash 4 was very popular, but people keep saying the game is ubalanced because of some overpowered characters and- Sakurai : BUFF ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE
Viewing it through the eyes of a Sm4sh player, Pika reeks of god tier. But then again, other characters with better ground game may be much better abusers of run canceling and sloppy turn canceling, making them absolute monsters at footsies or walling. So there IS the possibility of Pika's insane air game to merely be compensation for other characters' gains.
Shhhhh.....Sakurai said the game is still being balanced....
Alex Parpotta they’re still nerfing greninja
It'll still be being balanced even after it comes out. Fast, combo focused characters like Pikachu are going to need to be strong competitively to be usable on a casual level.
JP got a kill so they said they're nerfing.
Alex ikr?
Also you might wanna look at this ruclips.net/video/fkeoVAtd6m4/видео.html
They better buff Nana
Sakurai watches this video and this is like, "Wait, Pikachu can do all of that? Time to bring out the nerf-stick."
its nerf or nothing!
Timothy Daggs he should know since he's making the game
Nerf-gun. XD
It's probably out of energy though because it used all of its power on jigglypuff
for some reason
Timothy Daggs and he hits the puff instead lol
ESAM, Pikachu could have no aerials, no tilts, no specials, no grab, and no jab and you’d still think Pikachu is the best character in the game.
Dreadfury Esam's a true shonen hero!
A main Loyalist
That's because he still would be
All smash attacks?
NioXoiN u forgot taunts.
That ending...you are slowly turning into m2k
But pichu will rein supreme
bret_h of course he will
Too light for Bayo combos
bret_h seems legit
HalloFrame yep plus he could just endlessly uair to death unless they changed that move
PiCHU MY BOI! 😍
k but how's pichu
GreninjaSexParty I adore your name
I don’t think Pichu was playable here
Rayhaku808 I think no one used him because of the recoil damege
vector 3366 They only had 30 characters to choose from and Pichu was not one of them.
Esam thinks pikachu is insane in a new smash game. also water are wet.
matan ken but water isn't wet
Water isn't wet
matan ken Is Fire burnt? No.
Esam has put a lot of time into playing pikachu so if anyone would know I would assume it would be him.
Yeah that's cool and all but uh.........Pichu.
The real goat.
Nah, I ain't watch it yet. But since Pikachu has a few changes, do you think Pichu will resemble Melee Pikachu more?
Pichu is broken because rage is still in the game
From the trailer it seems pichu'll have some kind of stun mechanic. I just hope he has good normals.
Can anyone explain how Pichu Works for me? I get that he damages himself with lightning attacks, but is there more to it?
Sotra Jerry Yeah that's it atleast if it's like how it was in Melee
Sotra Jerry In melee Pichu was a sort of glass cannon/troll pick. He was basically bad Pikachu. Hopefully in this new game they’re doing a different approach, and as I mentioned earlier, this new iteration seems to have some sort of mechanic where he stuns the enemy.
I hope pichu is still bad. I want a joke character to crush my little cousins dreams with
same, minus the cousin, she was literally born last year, i'll just demoralize my friends instead
Nope, when ultimate is out, Pichu is good now
@FAIRY TAIL FOR LIFE nah he's good, but not broken
Maining her just for pikalibre tbh.
Same lol
*Him
Goku Black libre is a girl
Goku Black "Did you know pikachu libre is a girl?"
R. Pika*
Man if only he knew
Why did I just get recommended this 😂
Am I the only one hyped for Pichu? I loved being too small for anyone to hit, DI out of anything too
Jordan Walton I love that he's back.
You NOT the only one. I'm so HYPE for my boi has came back! He looks even cuter and I saw the trailer that he so even stronger!..ekkk! My boi! 😍💕
nonononono, you are one on a large group of people, so many are excited he's back, it's hype as fuck
I just want someone to tell me that Ness - Rosa matchup isn't a 10 - 90 anymore . _.
Fal Kaëlis it's probably 5-95 now cause ness got nerfed. Unless rosa got nerfed also
How did he got nerfed besides the UpAir change? From what I've seen, the lag after the PKFire has been shortened and the PK Thunder + Flash seem a bit faster. Didn't see the PKThunder2 yet.
Of course it is dude, is that really a question you need to even ask? Find a secondary for all the characters with reflectors and absorbers, thats why the game features 65+ fighters...
I just wanted to know if the Gravity thing was still as op against projectiles characters. Ness already has struggle to recover. Rosa just denies the possibility to do it. I will have secondaries of course, I guess Lucas isn't really different from SSB4 and there's a lot of new things to discover (Palutena be better pls).
BACK THROW GOT FUCKIN NERFED
I wanna hear about how you feel about the new mechanics. More specifically the return of the directional airdodge and the staling in dodges.
Seems fighters who were strong in the air in Smash 4 are insane in Ultimate, Air attacks have like zero landing lag.
Little did we know, he wouldn’t be nerfed
cant wait to see them pikachu vs pichu fights
kunckles213 oh my gosh! Definitely! I can't wait to see that! My boi Pichu dueling Pikachu! 😁💕
Do combos work similarly in this game with characters in general it looks like moves have too much base knockback to have good combos
Pikachu in the pokemon games: Not so good
Pikachu in Smash: Wrecks serious s**t
I'm not maining Pikachu but I'm sure as hell gonna use him a lot. He's been my favorite character in Smash Bros
It is the best feeling when your a Pikachu main and exam drops this :D
Glad to hear your opinion on it! Would love to hear more about other characters as well. Also I agree from the first looks Pikachu looked pretty good. Same with Sonic and Bayonetta
Can someone tell me if Ganondorf is top tier where he belongs?
I just want dedede to be good...
he looks good af boi. New fair that slides at low percents fap fap fap means that footstool fair lock now isnt at 0. also gordo seems to come out faster.
DOCTOR W I only want a killthrow or confirm like down throw up air! ^^
Maybe i'm crazy but u-tilt seems to actually start combos now (?)
And he can swallow and spit gordos, which should be somewhat useful
Byron Lopez I think he might be able to inhale any projectile and spit it out. Like villagers pocket. Or maybe its just gordos
"Dedede is already perfect"
I'm hype too, but not for any character in specific. I kinda wanna have a fresh start with the new smash so I'm gonna try them all and see which one I like best.
Plot twist! Pichu was purposely made better than Pikachu. That would be one hell of a troll
And you can play R. Pika in honor of Pokken Tournament 😊
Thanks so much ESAM, I was really thinking of secondarying Pikachu but now its assured.
I'm so happy to hear Pikachu is good, yet again. My lifelong main still kicking ass
Been a Pikachu main in every single game. Nice to hear the changes.
what I want to know is if skull bash is no longer useless for anything but getting back to the stage and the occasional super rare shield break on people who don't know any better
That face at the end is glorious
I think the important distinction here will ultimately come down to whether or not Pikachu can consistently kill below 120%, since I believe that percent starts rage if the indicators of the HUD lead me to anything.
DogWalk13 so is rage still a thing then?
Zoom! :3 it’s a thing, but heavily toned down.
Yukicraft okay great, I can live with that
Zoom! :3 Very late on this, but essentially, rage is fixed. Now instead of having a bunch of modifiers randomly spread out across percents, it seems to only work after 120%. Not sure it’s more knockback like last time or if they changed it to more damage.
Check how jab locks work. See if it is like smash 4 where you can get 3, melee where you can get 1, or brawl where you can get infinite (oh god).
Yo esam, do you know if there are still jab locks in ultimate?
Naphero I'm not esam but i guess i saw one being performed accidendly in a fun match with ridleys neutral b but I'm not sure ^^
Obi Na Tor I saw it too
Nerfed to only 2 hits on jab lock
The base knockback is quite hack. You can still change it in the options now.
The game is still in development so high hopes for you. I hope you are a demi-god in the beginging of the SSBU life.
Seems like every other high to top tier was either mostly unchanged or nerfed. This sounds reaaally scary, especially when factoring the overall buff to edgeguards.
I'm still going to main pikachu and will pick up pichu just because. I'm waiting for the game to come out just to see if footstool still combos into instant nair with pikachu.
0:55 listen to the way he says it. Sort of ASMR
For now. Development is still continuing.
I wouldn't get too excited about character's moves frame data/lag ect. They still have like 6 months, that's enough to make alot of changes.
it's so nice how people are so happy about their mains!
It's like your child is growing up and learning everytime something new.
LOL
xD
Hanwei CHONG
yes why?
xD
isn't he over powered enough?
Still not perfect?
please....
ESAM are you planning on sticking with Bidou setup for Pikachu in Ultimate? Is that how you were playing when testing this stuff? I'm considering picking up Pika more seriously in the new game but am a bit wary of learning an entirely new controller scheme.
Is there a chance that OoTGanondorf is just a placeholder and we'll get the vastly superior TPDorf, or even HWDorf?
Also, c'mon Sakurai, we've been asking for Ganondorf to be his own character since melee, he's still just an Echo Fighter+...
Normally this wouldn't be an issue, but we are talking about a character that has absolutely NOTHING to do with C.Falcon or F-Zero.
The character has so much reference material and they won't apply it like they do with Link and Zelda...
YES so glad to see I can keep maining pika. So fun.
Great to hear, what about Samus?
I wish back air was similar to Fox/Falco's... it seems too similar to neutral air now
does bair drag down still work the same way? can u fast fall and drop them out of it? does it still pancake on the ground if u FF it?
Hey esam can air dodge be cancelled like with tether and item throws if so wave dashing is back for characters with a tether and that can spawn items
Has Pikachu's quick attack been changed? Will there be double forward options?
Sakurai is about to bring out the Nerf Guns.
Do you think Bidou is gonna be a thing?
So on saffron city do the pokemon still come out of the door like the n64 had
Pikachu sounds good. Can't wait to play him and see you play him!
Big fan btw!
When Pikachu does up smash, does its tail become iron?
is oldish bowser back though? You know the one that could do up throw into combos easier?
lmao esams endless possittivity is hilarious
I hope pichu still has his nair from melee. We need less self damage moves and more good moves with pichu. I think his electric moves stun tho
Eric, what about Jesse's thoughts on Snake? I'm waiting on my boy's impressions!
Is Edge-Canceling still possible with up-b?
I was waiting for him to mention quick attack
Could you post a vid of what you think of the game in general in terms of mechanics and how it feels?
Please tell me Kirby is Top Tier again like Smash 64
Does Pikachu has that pichu paralyzing move as well?
*Does line of coke "Hey guys...."
Is the Monado Boi good? I peep'd his changes to his monado arts and i was deeply curious. unless he ain't available to play.
Pikachu has been my main in every Smash game
Today is a good day to be a Pikachu main.
Will you be holding a q&a over mechanic/ what characters are like?
But what we really need to know about is Pichu, because he can safely proc his own rage 🤔
you forgot to talk about quick attack, is it more lag, less lag, the same?
That face at the end though.
How did Jiggs feel?
she wasnt playable
LOVE YOUR PIKA KNOWLEDGE BRUH
When I saw Pika's nair , I knew it was gonna be great . Judging by the knockback and framedata .
What about Samus?
Second
YES! PIKACHU DAIR FINALLY SPIKES!
Smash 64: Top Tier
Melee: High Tier
Brawl: High Tier
Sm4sh: Top Tier
Ultimate: Top Tier?
He’s consistent.
Also does D-Air really spike? Like it send you down?! That is busted! Top 5.
Oh god, why did the video end like that
How is Samus? It looks like she got a lot of nice improvements from Smash 4.
Does anybody know if there are still a job locks?
Is there one for Marth review out there?
Most important question. What skin did you use?
It may feel like he’s super strong but what if other characters have been buffed just as much?
Perfect! Thanks for the details, man. Now... unload the Samus info. :)
Show your friend this that doesn't play smash. They won't know WTF he's talking about.
Pikachu is so coooool in Ultimate!
we don’t care about pikachu anymore PICHU IS WHERE ITS AT #BROKEN #BETTERCLONE #SSSSSSSSSSTIER
Pichu Got Clout PREACH IT! Hehe..😁👏
Anyways.. I'm so happy that my main boi has returned! He looks cuter and stronger has ever! PiCHU main reunited!!! 😁💕
Pika power forever! I remember pika did get nerfed slightly from demo to full game in smash 4, so I'm sure it will probably happen again, but if most of this stays, pika will easily be top 5
watch pichu somehow outclass pikachu
So this 2018 Pikachu is a 10/10, Melon?
Hey Esam, am a Samus main, with your experience, did you test her? What can you say about her?
Nintendo : So, Mr. Sakurai, Smash 4 was very popular, but people keep saying the game is ubalanced because of some overpowered characters and-
Sakurai : BUFF ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE
lol
Then Pikachu N air get nerfed....
I love Pikachu in 64 and Smash 4 :D I hope he still a lot of fun to play with
BUSTED
Can't wait to see what you do with Pika in Smash ultimate ESAM 👍.
Thanks for the insight!
Sooo...what about DK? Is ding dong still a thing?
Viewing it through the eyes of a Sm4sh player, Pika reeks of god tier. But then again, other characters with better ground game may be much better abusers of run canceling and sloppy turn canceling, making them absolute monsters at footsies or walling. So there IS the possibility of Pika's insane air game to merely be compensation for other characters' gains.