Defense gave up 13. Zach handed the defense 2 for the safety. And never let the patriots get in the red zone. Jets offense had -1 yard at the half. How do you ask anymore of the defense. They must be furious
@@appleaccounts2524 eh. Jets fans are loyal and frustrated, as they should be. But the team is full of talent after years of being terrible. Team actually has players on the nfl top 100 and actual pro bowl players. Well built car with no driver.
I disagree, its a functional average O line , Tippman, AVT, and Becton graded really well in protection, Tomlinson is Trash. Def gonna need a tackle with that first round pick. A functional quarterback will make the defense respect the pass and open up the run game. the line they put out for Sam Darnold was putrid, this is serviceable@@bricksandconcrete
@@bricksandconcrete They most definitely don’t have the worst O line. Like literally statistically speaking they’re 25th so far. The offensive line relies on the QB just as much as the QB relies on them. If the QB is holding the ball for a long time or generally sucks that makes the linemen have to work significantly harder. They knew their O line wasn’t amazing, they brought in Rodgers for that reason. His quick release and tempo was supposed to offset the bad o line play. Wilson couldn’t dream of doing that lol
If only Jets O line could of protected Rodgers...or anybody. But hey lets see who the next Jets O line victim will be Wentz or whoever they scrounge up .
At this point I’d consider Wentz. That’s where we are at with Zach. Like this is year 3. Josh Dobbs looks more pro ready than what we’ve seen from Zach. I feel horrible for Garrett Wilson, and pray he doesn’t request a trade because you can feel his frustration coming through the tv. As much as I loved what Joe Douglas did building this team, he’s gonna let this kid ruin everything. God I miss Mike White
Mike White would get hurt a 3rd time with us- it’s just destiny at this point. Having said that, White will throw 3 TDs per game on any other team this year and will never be hurt again 🙄
theres not much right now 'n the qb market. ok wentz then.... maybe only colt mccoy? there is the retired qbs market which is also very thin... the trade route is also very limited.
Absolutely, after the Jets Vs Jags game last year I couldn't believe they wanted to even keep Wilson on the roster. Dude got benched for a guy on the practice squad that night and the practice squad guy looked soooo much better.
Zach was supposed to be with a clipboard this season, not playing. Zach is a sunk cost, The JETS will never recoup the draft capital they spent. Look at SF, they moved on from Lance, they invested a ton of draft capital, but they moved on from him. Aside from Zach's present inabilities, I think the locker room will become fractured. Move on.
@@abc_12333 Pretty sure the HC and GM need to be pretty damn competent that even though they whiffed on a 1st round QB they still have one of if not the best team in the NFL. As a GM you don't just luck into having an amazing roster top to bottom. Basically every GM who has ever existed has whiffed hard on a draft pick. But 49ers and Jets are completely different and the Jets GM figured it would be a great idea to have a 39yr old QB playing behind a terrible O-Line and that the rest of the teams talent would somehow make that all okay or that they shouldn't go out and sign a competent backup like IDK maybe keep Mike White or go sign Bridgewater, Zappe, Brissett or McCoy all guys they easily could have gotten especially Zappe and McCoy who were both cut. Ask anyone who knows anything about Football and they will know having a bad O-Line is gonna greatly affect any NFL team regardless of how good the talent is everywhere else.
He wasn't supposed to be on the team!! The only reason he's still on the roster is because of stubbornness & not wanting to admit a mistake by drafting him.
@@wisewolftony Any GM and HC that rejected Brady (whose first choice was the 49ers) TWICE and didn't consider Mahomes are NOT competent. With the roster they had, the 49ers should've had 2 or 3 more Superbowl rings. Even without Mahomes or Brady, Kyle's horrific play-calling blew 4th quarter leads - reminiscent of Superbowl 51. As for QBs for the Jets, why haven't you mentioned Cooper Rush, Taylor Heinicke or Tyler Huntley? Those 3 are better than Zappe, Brissett and Bridgewater.
Saleh and Zach have absolutely no choice on Sunday night against the chiefs. Go out guns blazing. This scared offense is driving us crazy for the past 5 or 6 seasons straight. Gase and Darnold.. the hackenberg and the pettys.. we r sick of it. Nothing to lose damn it
I agree with you. I like to see the Jets try to utilize Zach's and the receiver's strengths by taking shots downfield rather than signing Wentz or waiting for the Vikings to lose more games. By taking shots downfield, the passing windows will widen and it will leave for room for the checkdowns. It will also keep the safeties to open more room for the running game. You're right. The Jets don't have anything to lose.
Im so tired of the team...if it wasnt for my teenage son, i wouldn't watch any of there games or buy any gear. The only thing in my life that I have continued with losing at is this team.
It's not that he's not ready preparation wise or ability wise, it's psychological. He's so terrified of making mistakes (look at the clips of him before the game in Dallas) that the mistakes are all he sees. He's got the yips. It's Mackey Sasser. He can't let it go. There's a clip of Garrett Wilson talking to Allen Lazard on the sideline, and he says - out of the side of his mouth - "He can't throw it." If Aaron Rodgers is going to help this kid, it's going to start with Ayahuasca or psilocybe cubensis, because it ain't about x's and o's anymore.
@@kcjones9440agreed. people talk too much. let the kid play out the season. Worst case scenario the jets end up with a top 10 pick. Best case Zack loses the yips and starts winning games.
@@kcjones9440 That BS & you know it!! He's limited at what he can do in a game. He's not accurate, low football IQ, bad footwork & nonexistent pocket presence & awareness.
Man I feel sorry for the Jets defense. They gave 100% and more. I don't get it how in the world Zach Wilson keeps laughing on the sideline while the D is fighting to stay alive. This dude is poison for the team.
It seems Saleh is chained to a mountain in QB hell. Once with the 49ers and now with the Jets. It must be really frustrating. I still don’t know how he motivates his defense. Because no human being can watch the excruciating painful experience that is Wilson playing QB and the Jets offense.
@@Etatdesiege1979 Maybe that is why Saleh is refusing to give up on Wilson. He's so used to QB hell that he wants to stay comfortable with staying in QB hell! LOL Just End The Season...
Blame the jets for drafting him at number 2…. Y’all are hating the player and not the game the jets set up….. y’all gave up on him last year…. He’s not poison. NY culture is toxic
@@Drewswaggybut Zach's the problem. I'm a big BYU fan but I knew when he started getting traction as a high pick he'd bust. He was never well liked among teammates and, having watched him many times in person, he constantly played hero ball way too much. He's so used to being the best player on the field that he doesn't need others, now he's in a position where he is clearly not the best but won't admit he needs help
@@peeporiot9948He's also a walking distraction between his mom, the whole MILF stuff & not taking accountability for his bad play last season turned off a lot of his teammates!!
Statistically, if a QB was going to figure out how to play in this league, he’d have shown it by now. No one has ever had a start this bad and then suddenly become great. Time to move on.
Watching Zach Wilson is like watching a teen trying to drive and keeps hitting Gaurdian rails. At some point you just realize Uber isn’t a bad option.🤣🤣
It's like how I remember my bowling skills being when I was 7 years old. At a certain point, you just accept playing with bumpers and smash the ball off the rails on purpose. That's the Jets, off the rails with no idea how to fix their approach.
The third and seven miss to Garret WIlson was inexcusable... he literally could have scored a 90 yard touchdown. It was literally his first read and he got off it way to fast a Garret was wide on the move he made by like 6 yards. and the deep safety was shading to the opposite side of the field. If he had thrown it to the 30 yard line it literally would have been a 90 yard td.
The head coach can only choose between the guys in the building -- Wilson or Boyle. It's Joe Douglas' job to get a competent QB. Wentz, Foles, Ryan don't cost any draft capital. Jets don't have time to wait until the Vikings are 1-5; they need a QB right now.
Too late. We lost hope in him last year when he was doing everything he could to keep Mike White from playing. He and his coaches were the ones who "fell in love" with Zach Wilson and forced the GM to draft him, so they need to go with him. Ben Johnson, the 2025 Jets are yours with Jordan Travis as your weapon.
Guy who was supposed to be on the sidelines in street clothes this year doesn’t become an adequate starter in 9 months, because magic isn’t a thing. How a 2023 redshirt somehow became the sole “viable” backup to Aaron Rodgers is something Woody & JD need to answer for, and may never live down
Nah even as an avid hater of all things Jets- once your QB is fucked, your team is fucked. Not every team is the Nick Foles Eagles, and he didn't take over the starting job til the regular season was just about over. There is no way that a guy who doesn't know the players on the team or the plays in the playbook is going to magically jump in and win enough games to make a postseason run. 14 games left, you think Joe Flacco is going 10-4 to sneak into the postseason? CHILD PLEASE lol.
At this point I think there are only two options. Either they try to trade for someone else's backup or try to sign someone recently retired to just have someone other than Zach in the QB spot and hope that person can game manage the team to the playoffs. Or they have to tank to get the first pick, draft Caleb Williams and let him get mentored for a year behind Rodgers, instead of Wilson. But if the goal is to compete like they intended to with Rodgers, but with Zach as their QB, that's folly. Make a drastic move or surrender. There is no in-between.
@@davideast239 Lol WTF is Drew Lock going to do? They need 10 wins in 14 games to sneak into the postseason in the AFC. At LEAST 9 wins. I don't think anyone on earth is thinking "Yeah, Drew Lock. He could definitely go 9-5 or 10-4 for us!" Lmao.
The issue with tanking is I'm not sure they could draft Caleb because part of the reason Rogers left Greenbay was he was unhappy they drafted Love. Rogers took less with the agreement they would use the money for weapons around him not a competent backup qb that's why they only have Zach and Boyle. They also down graded the wr position so Rodgers would have his old buddies Cobb and Lazard, and Hackett. So their hands are tied.
If I'm a Jets fan, i want Zach to keep playing like he's playing. It's a great QB draft class and Aaron will be back next year which means whatever QB they draft will get to learn behind Aaron for a year or two.
I am a Jets fan and we just want to have ONE season where we win games and have fun competitive games to watch. I don't want for the 10th year in a row to be about the draft again. I just can't do it again. Please can we have a season where we arent talking about the draft 5 weeks in
This is the only path for the Jets. Trying to trade for Kirk or some other guy would be foolish. Desperation is never a good place to be making trades from.
you already gave up on the season? (not judging you... there are times when this team makes me feel that way almost every other game). I'm going to try to give it until week 9 (8 games into the season) to see if the jets can turn it around, if not i might agree with you... I hope the jets can play some meaningful games in December but as the days past that seems like a crazy pipe dream.
@@juicesnap I'm not a Jets fan, but come on be realistic. It would be a miracle for Zach to get to the playoffs and there's no way he's winning a playoff game. Even if the Jets bring in someone else's back up or a free agent no one wanted this season, what's that really get you? 7-10 season? Great now they gotta trade up to find Zach's replacement. In the NFL you either want to be a 11-13 win team or a 3 win team if your QB is near retirement. One means you're a Superbowl contender the other means you can secure your future because Zach ain't it. Being a middle of the road team does nothing good for the Jets this year.
as a pats fan i'm not bragging about this win. we only won this game again because the jets have zach wilson. if it was rogers or any serviceable qb the jets had the patriots lose by at least 2 scores
@@jackfeldman8684 not with mac jones. mac jones has struggled as soon as they get into the opponents red zone. the patriots have the highest if not one of the highest in getting into the red zone and have the lowest conversion rate at like 36 percent when they get into the red zone.
Eisen is usually spot on but to say “they made all the right moves but the football gods decided to kick them in the groin again” is just ridiculous. The jets are in this predicament only because they never had a contingency plan regarding the very real possibility of a 40 year old QB getting hurt. They put all their eggs in one basket. It’s completely 100% their fault their season is lost. They used no foresight whatsoever.
I totally agree,but Rogers got hurt in the first 5 minutes of the season.Jets literally had the rest of the season of to deal with there new reality.The Jets have done nothing to improve there QB problem.It's unconscionable that they have not brought in a real NFL quarterback. We already know what Zach is,we saw it for 2 years...
You’re wrong. As a Bears fan, I can assure you that the Jets were right in assuming ARod would stay healthy. That dude has been an ironman in the NFC North. It def was the football Gods. They hate the Bears and the Jets.
There are no football gods. God Almighty is Lord Jesus Christ. There are no idols. None. There are no other God besides Lord Jesus Christ, The Savior. God=Jesus does condemn idolaters later that keep doing it and don't stop. Unfortunately there is no rest in the lake of fire and brimstone for both the unrepentant and the disbelievers. It is the second death.
Yes but less of an a-hole. Zack looks like that suburban kid who's parents are connected and he got ahead in life and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
Man I honestly feel bad for Zach Wilson. He was never supposed to start for at-least two years. But he is being thrown into the heat of it. Idk if they keep him tbh even if rodgers comes back
I was the most hyped about this Jets season in a long time and after three weeks, it’s all gone. The coaching staff and management need to take a long look in the mirror about the cluster?!@$ they’ve created at QB and the lack of accountability for making a mistake picking Wilson. It sure seems, by the body language and responses, that Saleh’s hands are tied on the QB. It sure appears that there is pressure from above to keep Wilson as the starter. The locker room is going to turn unless something is done.
Jets gotta be thinking how Zach is there best shot, watching Dobbs play better with less than a month with his team. I’d rather have Gardner Minshew or Carson Wentz. Jets also had to watch Mike White go 2/2 for one TD in one of the NFLs biggest blowouts.
I watched him in college at BYU and was truly flabbergasted at what people saw in him. Supposed veteran NFL scouts completely missed on him, just not an NFL QB
What is this notion that Zach Wilson is "not ready" to play in the NFL.. The NFL is lightyears away from the caliber of football Zach played in college.. Not everyone who plays college football is cut out to play in the NFL.. The Jets made a mistake drafting him They know it and we know.. the other mistake they made was not cutting their loses biting the bullet and make a competent proven veteran QB2 behind Rodgers.. Everyone is to blame over there at Florham Park
4:12 "like my prom date before she vomited off the side of the Staten Island Ferry" 🤣. Best analogy ever to describe Zach Wilson's situation right now 😆
Attention Jets fans, I have come as an ambassador from the Seahawks to offer you Drew Lock for 2 first round picks, 2 second round picks, and Quinnen Williams
I guarantee if NE could have Tua for MJ in a trade they’d take it! Tua is a way better QB, he’s a baller, you put him in NE and BB is going back to the SB easy. Pipe dream!
@@TB12710 Tua has a slightly better arm and a little quicker on his feet. That’s about it. If you see something else in Tua besides having far better talent around him, enlighten me.
We had 2 missed field goals and should’ve had more points if they call that PI before the half, certainly wasn’t great, but they did what they had to do
Tbf we would have had a much better margin if we made those field goals we missed. Also we have to respect the Jets defense for what it is those dudes fought like hell and did a great job of stopping the run and didn’t let a lot of big plays happen. Im gonna be more critical of the offense if they lay an egg against Dallas.
The idea that the Vikings are that sick of Cousins is kind of insane when you consider he's actually playing well. That team has a lot of problems, but it's really not him. But I guess maybe with Caleb Williams throwing to JJ they'd be happy to move on.
@@REALJayDOTWill I guess. It just feels like a real tough ask for the fans considering him throwing the ball to JJ is the only interesting thing happening with that team. Maybe they should just cut everyone else and start over?
@@OldManInternet well I think the issue was they overpaid him and never were bad enough to build the team up again when the cap was used up. So now they would prefer to get a rookie QB contract, rebuild defense, release some vets, and attempt to keep JJ happy in that time frame.
@@REALJayDOTWill Yeah, that makes sense, and I can't argue with it. It's just gotta be rough for those fans after being 13-4 last year to be in the running for the 1st overall pick and trading away or moving on from the league leading passer.
As a Steeler fan sometimes I think Pickett gets PTSD and escapes the pocket too quickly. Zach Wilson literally does the opposite and steps INTO pressure, it's mind boggling.
There is nothing lost in staring Boyle as QB. Saleh's staff can come up with a good cover story. They can say that they need to see Boyle in action to determine if they need to bring in a new backup to Zach. Jets also need to make some trades right now for an offensive lineman.
Cousins and rodgers on the same team would be funny, but honestly, I hope it happens so cousins can have a successful team! Bro is too good to be 0-3, and the jets are too good to be 1-2. It just makes sense.
Impossible to understand how this kid made it through evaluators and wound up the second choice in the draft. He looks like a shy high schooler. Wishing the best for the kid.
Every Jets star is going to request a trade by 1-5. They need to get Wentz or Ryan in that building tomorrow. Both have literally called the Jets looking for a shot. Are either of those great choices, no, but they are certainly better than what we have sitting here now.
It ain't Zach's fault. This is squarely on the FO. We knew who Zach was, it's not a surprise. JD had all summer to get a reasonable backup and now we pay the price.
With all due respect to Rich, the Jets did NOT make all the proper plans. It wasn't that hard to anticipate that a 39-yo QB could be injured, and the Jets would be right where they are now. Joe D should shoulder a lot of the blame for this. Zach is a good kid and has the physical tools, but he just doesn't have what it takes between the ears to be an NFL QB. Joe D has fallen hard for the sunk cost fallacy.
Even with Rodgers, most people predicted the Jets to be 2-4 or 3-3 after 6 weeks. If they manage another win, that is a testament to Rob for keeping them in it together.
Zach went to my Alma Mater, so I hope he does well. but I'm also a Patriots fan and a realist. Zach's only possible way to get better is to go to Canada for a couple of years. Two more games like this and he's gone for good
Wilson is far more qualified to scam on 40 somethings than play FB. The Jets drafted him and they got what they deserve. Draft better!! This season is over so stop being shocked every weekend like we dont know whats coming...
PERSONALLY I also blame this New Generation of Jets fans who shout down anyone who has. A negative word to say about the Jets. Zach Wilson is a BUST! Accept it. This waiting and hoping the Jets Front Office is doing is HURTING the team.
I was so pleased when I picked up Jets D/ST in the fantasy draft. Soon as Rodgers went down I was worried, after week 2 I moved on and picked up Chiefs D instead. No defense can hold up when you have an abyssmal QB that can't find his way to the men's room, much less lead an NFL offense.
The Patriots O-Line has been getting (rightfully) grilled this season, but there hasn’t been any praise where it’s due and I hate seeing that. Vederian Lowe went from getting traded to the pats, to starting at LT week 2, then RT week 3 and he’s held up pretty well so far. If he can make RT steady while Big Mike, Trent, and Cole get healthy, they’ll be able to control teams later in the season
Mark Sanchez, Geno Smith, Sam Darnold, Zack Wilson...all high draft QB's who failed, or will fail, with the Jets. Maybe the problem isn't the QB...just sayin'
Jets OVERHYPED is a understatement! Spent all that cash, and flopped. Even if Rodgers was healthy, they would still be a funky fb team. This cant all be on Zach, because it ALL stinks!
Im new to watching football and am wondering if someone can help me understand something. Who makes the call on acquiring a new QB? If Saleh tells the GM it’s time does it happen? Is it all up to the coach? What say does the GM and or owner have? If Saleh wants to stay with Zach but the GM and owner want to make a change does it happen? I don’t understand the dynamics behind how this kind of decision and action takes place. Would appreciate any kind of insight from the knowledgeable football fans.
Saleh: His accuracy is much improved Reality: 50% Saleh: His pocket presence is much improved Reality: 3 sacks from holding the ball too long; multiple open receivers missed or not even seen Saleh is a nice guy; but if he really believes that BS, he's gotta go.
The Jets have three good RB's, the offence needs to run through them, bring in O-line help if any can be found, and add blocking TE and FB help . Then run the ball as often as possible. Or just let nature take its course and draft a QB to learn from Rodgers.
What's amazing is last year they knew he couldn't play and they went with Mike White. But now they seem to think he can play? You could see in the preseason that Zach Wilson can't move the team or put points on the board. It is management's fault. The coach, the general manager whoever who is involved in creating the team.
I love Rich's weekly live therapy session.
Daily
Thanks for the chuckle, it's true!
Defense gave up 13. Zach handed the defense 2 for the safety. And never let the patriots get in the red zone. Jets offense had -1 yard at the half. How do you ask anymore of the defense. They must be furious
@@appleaccounts2524 eh. Jets fans are loyal and frustrated, as they should be. But the team is full of talent after years of being terrible. Team actually has players on the nfl top 100 and actual pro bowl players. Well built car with no driver.
@@AK-py1ds they also have the worst offensive line in the NFL. No wonder Aaron Rodgers only survived 4 plays
They should have asked if he let the defense down again...
I disagree, its a functional average O line , Tippman, AVT, and Becton graded really well in protection, Tomlinson is Trash. Def gonna need a tackle with that first round pick. A functional quarterback will make the defense respect the pass and open up the run game. the line they put out for Sam Darnold was putrid, this is serviceable@@bricksandconcrete
@@bricksandconcrete They most definitely don’t have the worst O line. Like literally statistically speaking they’re 25th so far. The offensive line relies on the QB just as much as the QB relies on them. If the QB is holding the ball for a long time or generally sucks that makes the linemen have to work significantly harder. They knew their O line wasn’t amazing, they brought in Rodgers for that reason. His quick release and tempo was supposed to offset the bad o line play. Wilson couldn’t dream of doing that lol
Aaron Rodgers was the legit definition of Achilles’ heel for the Jets…😢
Dude didn't even play a game for you guys. All you guys had was hope. So I disagree with that statement lol
Rodgers coming to Gotham has caused an implosion on multiple levels.
If only Jets O line could of protected Rodgers...or anybody. But hey lets see who the next Jets O line victim will be Wentz or whoever they scrounge up .
@@mannyherbal2987 Once they got Rogers they forgot how to build the rest of the team just in case the 40 YEAR OLD QB gets hurt.
With that O-Line he'd be beat up already or would've been injured at some point during the season either way .
I knew we were dead on the first series when Zach audibled at the line and sent the RB right into 6 guys.
So true! How the hell did he not see that😂
Zach needs to "audible" himself into working as a Walmart greeter. He IS NOT a professional football player.
Yup
@@MADGUNSMONSTER It's all about the con these days. Just MAGA your way in, and FO once you FA.
At this point I’d consider Wentz. That’s where we are at with Zach. Like this is year 3. Josh Dobbs looks more pro ready than what we’ve seen from Zach. I feel horrible for Garrett Wilson, and pray he doesn’t request a trade because you can feel his frustration coming through the tv. As much as I loved what Joe Douglas did building this team, he’s gonna let this kid ruin everything. God I miss Mike White
Mike White would get hurt a 3rd time with us- it’s just destiny at this point.
Having said that, White will throw 3 TDs per game on any other team this year and will never be hurt again 🙄
theres not much right now 'n the qb market. ok wentz then.... maybe only colt mccoy? there is the retired qbs market which is also very thin... the trade route is also very limited.
Garrett Wilson is def not staying on the Jets for his entire career
@jetsbaby8117 we all know that’s not happening anytime soon. It’s best for Garrett to just get out now
I legit think Colt McCoy could work
They should have dumped Zach Wilson and kept Mike White.
Absolutely, after the Jets Vs Jags game last year I couldn't believe they wanted to even keep Wilson on the roster. Dude got benched for a guy on the practice squad that night and the practice squad guy looked soooo much better.
Yeah we all want that guy that wins one game a year.
If there was ever a player to put behind Rodgers, it was White. White was not as ready as Purdy was for the 49ers but the potential was there.
the team wore tshirts supporting mike white. they loved the guy.
MW beat the Bears lmao!! He's 🗑
Zach was supposed to be with a clipboard this season, not playing.
Zach is a sunk cost, The JETS will never recoup the draft capital they spent.
Look at SF, they moved on from Lance, they invested a ton of draft capital, but they moved on from him.
Aside from Zach's present inabilities, I think the locker room will become fractured.
Move on.
That is ONLY because the 49ers happened to find GOLD in Brock Purdy. Even as a 49ers fan, I won't act like Lynch and Shanahan are competent.
Even clipboard he is waste of money.
@@abc_12333 Pretty sure the HC and GM need to be pretty damn competent that even though they whiffed on a 1st round QB they still have one of if not the best team in the NFL. As a GM you don't just luck into having an amazing roster top to bottom. Basically every GM who has ever existed has whiffed hard on a draft pick. But 49ers and Jets are completely different and the Jets GM figured it would be a great idea to have a 39yr old QB playing behind a terrible O-Line and that the rest of the teams talent would somehow make that all okay or that they shouldn't go out and sign a competent backup like IDK maybe keep Mike White or go sign Bridgewater, Zappe, Brissett or McCoy all guys they easily could have gotten especially Zappe and McCoy who were both cut. Ask anyone who knows anything about Football and they will know having a bad O-Line is gonna greatly affect any NFL team regardless of how good the talent is everywhere else.
He wasn't supposed to be on the team!! The only reason he's still on the roster is because of stubbornness & not wanting to admit a mistake by drafting him.
@@wisewolftony Any GM and HC that rejected Brady (whose first choice was the 49ers) TWICE and didn't consider Mahomes are NOT competent. With the roster they had, the 49ers should've had 2 or 3 more Superbowl rings. Even without Mahomes or Brady, Kyle's horrific play-calling blew 4th quarter leads - reminiscent of Superbowl 51. As for QBs for the Jets, why haven't you mentioned Cooper Rush, Taylor Heinicke or Tyler Huntley? Those 3 are better than Zappe, Brissett and Bridgewater.
Saleh and Zach have absolutely no choice on Sunday night against the chiefs. Go out guns blazing. This scared offense is driving us crazy for the past 5 or 6 seasons straight. Gase and Darnold.. the hackenberg and the pettys.. we r sick of it. Nothing to lose damn it
They can't let him throw or it will be interception after interception
If they do that, they will go out with five or six turnovers and the Chiefs hanging 70 on them.
Yep one horrid gM after another after another....
I agree with you. I like to see the Jets try to utilize Zach's and the receiver's strengths by taking shots downfield rather than signing Wentz or waiting for the Vikings to lose more games. By taking shots downfield, the passing windows will widen and it will leave for room for the checkdowns. It will also keep the safeties to open more room for the running game. You're right. The Jets don't have anything to lose.
Im so tired of the team...if it wasnt for my teenage son, i wouldn't watch any of there games or buy any gear. The only thing in my life that I have continued with losing at is this team.
As always, thank you for voicing our pain Rich
oh boo hoo. The pain!!!! How do you live?
Ohhhh the pain
It's not that he's not ready preparation wise or ability wise, it's psychological. He's so terrified of making mistakes (look at the clips of him before the game in Dallas) that the mistakes are all he sees. He's got the yips. It's Mackey Sasser. He can't let it go. There's a clip of Garrett Wilson talking to Allen Lazard on the sideline, and he says - out of the side of his mouth - "He can't throw it." If Aaron Rodgers is going to help this kid, it's going to start with Ayahuasca or psilocybe cubensis, because it ain't about x's and o's anymore.
@@kcjones9440if he can't take the media than no he can't play...being an NFL qb .. means that comes with it...he's thin skin is killing the team
@@jonw.415 Especially in NY
@@kcjones9440agreed. people talk too much. let the kid play out the season. Worst case scenario the jets end up with a top 10 pick. Best case Zack loses the yips and starts winning games.
@@kcjones9440 That BS & you know it!! He's limited at what he can do in a game. He's not accurate, low football IQ, bad footwork & nonexistent pocket presence & awareness.
@@sugaashow That's not happening!!
Man I feel sorry for the Jets defense. They gave 100% and more. I don't get it how in the world Zach Wilson keeps laughing on the sideline while the D is fighting to stay alive. This dude is poison for the team.
It seems Saleh is chained to a mountain in QB hell. Once with the 49ers and now with the Jets. It must be really frustrating. I still don’t know how he motivates his defense. Because no human being can watch the excruciating painful experience that is Wilson playing QB and the Jets offense.
@@Etatdesiege1979 Maybe that is why Saleh is refusing to give up on Wilson. He's so used to QB hell that he wants to stay comfortable with staying in QB hell! LOL Just End The Season...
Blame the jets for drafting him at number 2…. Y’all are hating the player and not the game the jets set up….. y’all gave up on him last year…. He’s not poison. NY culture is toxic
@@Drewswaggybut Zach's the problem. I'm a big BYU fan but I knew when he started getting traction as a high pick he'd bust. He was never well liked among teammates and, having watched him many times in person, he constantly played hero ball way too much. He's so used to being the best player on the field that he doesn't need others, now he's in a position where he is clearly not the best but won't admit he needs help
@@peeporiot9948He's also a walking distraction between his mom, the whole MILF stuff & not taking accountability for his bad play last season turned off a lot of his teammates!!
Statistically, if a QB was going to figure out how to play in this league, he’d have shown it by now. No one has ever had a start this bad and then suddenly become great. Time to move on.
Alex Smith
Steve Young
Kurt Warner, Tommy Maddox, Steve Young, Alex Smith, Geno Smith, Josh Allen
Jim Pluckett
Tommy Maddox
Watching Zach Wilson is like watching a teen trying to drive and keeps hitting Gaurdian rails. At some point you just realize Uber isn’t a bad option.🤣🤣
Or just walk.............out the effin door and go back to Utah!
It's like how I remember my bowling skills being when I was 7 years old. At a certain point, you just accept playing with bumpers and smash the ball off the rails on purpose. That's the Jets, off the rails with no idea how to fix their approach.
😂@@izzydizzy1115
Hahahaha 😂 sad buuuuuuut true!!
the defense only gave up 13 and that safety was on Wilson/offense
Zach Wilson hangs on to the football like it was his best friend's mom.
Or his mom's best friend
@@georgewashington1106That's proof of him being a walking distraction!! Should've not been on the roster prior to the season. Epic fail by NYJ.
Let go of the teet...😂😂😂
@@wilnerolivier7971 The OP was a slightly bigger fail.
As a Staten Island native, the ferry vomit story made my day.
Correction: the defense only put up 13. Two points came off of Zach's indecision in his own end zone.
The third and seven miss to Garret WIlson was inexcusable... he literally could have scored a 90 yard touchdown. It was literally his first read and he got off it way to fast a Garret was wide on the move he made by like 6 yards. and the deep safety was shading to the opposite side of the field. If he had thrown it to the 30 yard line it literally would have been a 90 yard td.
Robert Saleh... PLEASE DON'T DIE ON THE HILL OF ZACH WILSON
he has no choice.....Zach family and Woody are close ....their hands are tied
He's going to. Saleh is a con man. He sold the Jets a bill of goods. Just as clueless as the QB
@@jonw.415 trump supporters
At this point any back up qb is better than him.... ANYONE, is dalton still playing, wentz, kapernic??
The head coach can only choose between the guys in the building -- Wilson or Boyle. It's Joe Douglas' job to get a competent QB. Wentz, Foles, Ryan don't cost any draft capital. Jets don't have time to wait until the Vikings are 1-5; they need a QB right now.
The sad thing is that if Saleh continues supporting Zach, the fan base will lose hope in the coach. 😊
Too late. We lost hope in him last year when he was doing everything he could to keep Mike White from playing. He and his coaches were the ones who "fell in love" with Zach Wilson and forced the GM to draft him, so they need to go with him. Ben Johnson, the 2025 Jets are yours with Jordan Travis as your weapon.
Guy who was supposed to be on the sidelines in street clothes this year doesn’t become an adequate starter in 9 months, because magic isn’t a thing. How a 2023 redshirt somehow became the sole “viable” backup to Aaron Rodgers is something Woody & JD need to answer for, and may never live down
Nah even as an avid hater of all things Jets- once your QB is fucked, your team is fucked. Not every team is the Nick Foles Eagles, and he didn't take over the starting job til the regular season was just about over.
There is no way that a guy who doesn't know the players on the team or the plays in the playbook is going to magically jump in and win enough games to make a postseason run. 14 games left, you think Joe Flacco is going 10-4 to sneak into the postseason? CHILD PLEASE lol.
@@173jaSon371 Ya mean like when Baker Mayfield went to a new team on a Tuesday and without knowing anybody there, won the same week? What a maroon 🤡
At this point I think there are only two options. Either they try to trade for someone else's backup or try to sign someone recently retired to just have someone other than Zach in the QB spot and hope that person can game manage the team to the playoffs. Or they have to tank to get the first pick, draft Caleb Williams and let him get mentored for a year behind Rodgers, instead of Wilson. But if the goal is to compete like they intended to with Rodgers, but with Zach as their QB, that's folly. Make a drastic move or surrender. There is no in-between.
I'd trade for Drew Lock and kick the tire, he looked good in pre Season and couldn't possibly be any worse than Wilson
I’m on this. Do something quick or go home
@@davideast239 Lol WTF is Drew Lock going to do? They need 10 wins in 14 games to sneak into the postseason in the AFC. At LEAST 9 wins. I don't think anyone on earth is thinking "Yeah, Drew Lock. He could definitely go 9-5 or 10-4 for us!" Lmao.
The issue with tanking is I'm not sure they could draft Caleb because part of the reason Rogers left Greenbay was he was unhappy they drafted Love. Rogers took less with the agreement they would use the money for weapons around him not a competent backup qb that's why they only have Zach and Boyle. They also down graded the wr position so Rodgers would have his old buddies Cobb and Lazard, and Hackett. So their hands are tied.
Go get White back
If I'm a Jets fan, i want Zach to keep playing like he's playing. It's a great QB draft class and Aaron will be back next year which means whatever QB they draft will get to learn behind Aaron for a year or two.
I am a Jets fan and we just want to have ONE season where we win games and have fun competitive games to watch. I don't want for the 10th year in a row to be about the draft again. I just can't do it again. Please can we have a season where we arent talking about the draft 5 weeks in
This is the only path for the Jets. Trying to trade for Kirk or some other guy would be foolish. Desperation is never a good place to be making trades from.
you already gave up on the season? (not judging you... there are times when this team makes me feel that way almost every other game). I'm going to try to give it until week 9 (8 games into the season) to see if the jets can turn it around, if not i might agree with you... I hope the jets can play some meaningful games in December but as the days past that seems like a crazy pipe dream.
@@juicesnap I'm not a Jets fan, but come on be realistic. It would be a miracle for Zach to get to the playoffs and there's no way he's winning a playoff game. Even if the Jets bring in someone else's back up or a free agent no one wanted this season, what's that really get you? 7-10 season? Great now they gotta trade up to find Zach's replacement. In the NFL you either want to be a 11-13 win team or a 3 win team if your QB is near retirement. One means you're a Superbowl contender the other means you can secure your future because Zach ain't it. Being a middle of the road team does nothing good for the Jets this year.
😂😂 yeah because drafting qbs has been great for the jets so far let's see geno, Sam, zach
as a pats fan i'm not bragging about this win. we only won this game again because the jets have zach wilson. if it was rogers or any serviceable qb the jets had the patriots lose by at least 2 scores
I honestly thought we were gonna choke the game away cuz Belichick is a coward and refuses to go for 4th down conversions
OK fair, but if the patriots had the Jets WR's they also win by 2 scores.
@@jackfeldman8684 not with mac jones. mac jones has struggled as soon as they get into the opponents red zone. the patriots have the highest if not one of the highest in getting into the red zone and have the lowest conversion rate at like 36 percent when they get into the red zone.
@@eriknewton4656Mac Jones and Tua are the same. The difference is elite talent surrounding Tua
@@eriknewton4656it's a talent issue tbh
The defense only gave up 13. That extra 2 was also on the offense.
Eisen is usually spot on but to say “they made all the right moves but the football gods decided to kick them in the groin again” is just ridiculous. The jets are in this predicament only because they never had a contingency plan regarding the very real possibility of a 40 year old QB getting hurt. They put all their eggs in one basket. It’s completely 100% their fault their season is lost. They used no foresight whatsoever.
I agree.
they are in this position becaue they did not shore up trthe o-line
I totally agree,but Rogers got hurt in the first 5 minutes of the season.Jets literally had the rest of the season of to deal with there new reality.The Jets have done nothing to improve there QB problem.It's unconscionable that they have not brought in a real NFL quarterback. We already know what Zach is,we saw it for 2 years...
You’re wrong. As a Bears fan, I can assure you that the Jets were right in assuming ARod would stay healthy. That dude has been an ironman in the NFC North. It def was the football Gods. They hate the Bears and the Jets.
There are no football gods. God Almighty is Lord Jesus Christ. There are no idols. None. There are no other God besides Lord Jesus Christ, The Savior. God=Jesus does condemn idolaters later that keep doing it and don't stop. Unfortunately there is no rest in the lake of fire and brimstone for both the unrepentant and the disbelievers. It is the second death.
Lol - “he might go to bed early”. Great line.
"that's the cleanest answer I can give" - We can all read between the lines coach.
Is it safe to say that Zach Wilson is in the Ryan Leaf category?
Yes but less of an a-hole. Zack looks like that suburban kid who's parents are connected and he got ahead in life and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
I think Leaf was better lol
I Am 🙏 For You Rich
This warms my heart. I waited all day for this as a previous fan. I loved every second of this 😂😂
Man I honestly feel bad for Zach Wilson. He was never supposed to start for at-least two years. But he is being thrown into the heat of it. Idk if they keep him tbh even if rodgers comes back
Why!? He has had almost 3 seasons to prove himself and can't. Most players don't get that long to prove it. He needs to go obviously.
2 Years? 9ers threw Trey into the heat of it and got dumped for a last pick QB who still gets the ball out of his hands against constant blitzes.
Rich's Tony Romo impression 😂
I was the most hyped about this Jets season in a long time and after three weeks, it’s all gone. The coaching staff and management need to take a long look in the mirror about the cluster?!@$ they’ve created at QB and the lack of accountability for making a mistake picking Wilson. It sure seems, by the body language and responses, that Saleh’s hands are tied on the QB. It sure appears that there is pressure from above to keep Wilson as the starter. The locker room is going to turn unless something is done.
Hey, you'll always have Hard Knocks.
Did you truly think this wasn't gonna happen? It's the Jets. It's their narrative. The NFL has decided this.
Jets gotta be thinking how Zach is there best shot, watching Dobbs play better with less than a month with his team. I’d rather have Gardner Minshew or Carson Wentz. Jets also had to watch Mike White go 2/2 for one TD in one of the NFLs biggest blowouts.
Minshew has a job; Wentz does not.
I watched him in college at BYU and was truly flabbergasted at what people saw in him. Supposed veteran NFL scouts completely missed on him, just not an NFL QB
The arm. Even the best get seduced by arm talent and he's definitely got that.
What is this notion that Zach Wilson is "not ready" to play in the NFL.. The NFL is lightyears away from the caliber of football Zach played in college.. Not everyone who plays college football is cut out to play in the NFL.. The Jets made a mistake drafting him They know it and we know.. the other mistake they made was not cutting their loses biting the bullet and make a competent proven veteran QB2 behind Rodgers.. Everyone is to blame over there at Florham Park
4:12 "like my prom date before she vomited off the side of the Staten Island Ferry" 🤣. Best analogy ever to describe Zach Wilson's situation right now 😆
Attention Jets fans, I have come as an ambassador from the Seahawks to offer you Drew Lock for 2 first round picks, 2 second round picks, and Quinnen Williams
The Jests have to be kicking themselves for not keeping Mike White
As the great Bill Walsh said: "You'll know what you have in a QB after 25 games!"
Game 25 coming up for Zack Wilson! We know what he is!!! 💩
If Mac played for Miami and Tua for NE I don’t think there would be much of a difference. Followed both since Bama.
I guarantee if NE could have Tua for MJ in a trade they’d take it! Tua is a way better QB, he’s a baller, you put him in NE and BB is going back to the SB easy. Pipe dream!
Agreed
@@TB12710lol ok
@@TB12710 Tua has a slightly better arm and a little quicker on his feet. That’s about it. If you see something else in Tua besides having far better talent around him, enlighten me.
Just wait until the Chief’s game on Sunday Night Football. Oh the humanity.
May change it
Pats fan here, I thought our defence was just to much for Wilson. Our offence on the other hand…
Well, you guys did have two missed field goals due to bad snaps.
We had 2 missed field goals and should’ve had more points if they call that PI before the half, certainly wasn’t great, but they did what they had to do
Tbf we would have had a much better margin if we made those field goals we missed. Also we have to respect the Jets defense for what it is those dudes fought like hell and did a great job of stopping the run and didn’t let a lot of big plays happen. Im gonna be more critical of the offense if they lay an egg against Dallas.
@@phobia5.568 yea but that one from 57 in those conditions was no guarantee anyway
Every defense is too much for Wilson.
The idea that the Vikings are that sick of Cousins is kind of insane when you consider he's actually playing well. That team has a lot of problems, but it's really not him. But I guess maybe with Caleb Williams throwing to JJ they'd be happy to move on.
Cousins has just cost them too much money at this point. They need to shed him in order to build the defense back up.
@@REALJayDOTWill I guess. It just feels like a real tough ask for the fans considering him throwing the ball to JJ is the only interesting thing happening with that team. Maybe they should just cut everyone else and start over?
@@OldManInternet well I think the issue was they overpaid him and never were bad enough to build the team up again when the cap was used up. So now they would prefer to get a rookie QB contract, rebuild defense, release some vets, and attempt to keep JJ happy in that time frame.
@@REALJayDOTWill Yeah, that makes sense, and I can't argue with it. It's just gotta be rough for those fans after being 13-4 last year to be in the running for the 1st overall pick and trading away or moving on from the league leading passer.
Like any business, when you don't win, you start looking at how you can sell off your most expensive asset. For the Vikings it's cousins.
Can you not just cut Zach? The morale alone having him there is more damaging than anything. This kid just cannot play pro football. Period.
Zach Wilson Is this Generations RYAN LEAF...
When is he going to develop a drug problem?
Remind me exactly what Wilson did for NYJ that Darnold didn't?
The NY Jets have gone from SB contenders to maybe getting the first pick in the draft in a NY minute.
When he said that Martindale might go to bed early I lost it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a Steeler fan sometimes I think Pickett gets PTSD and escapes the pocket too quickly. Zach Wilson literally does the opposite and steps INTO pressure, it's mind boggling.
Its crazy how different saleh talks since aaron got hurt 😭
Jets gotta get pulled from all these prime time games. They’re unwatchable.
There is nothing lost in staring Boyle as QB. Saleh's staff can come up with a good cover story. They can say that they need to see Boyle in action to determine if they need to bring in a new backup to Zach. Jets also need to make some trades right now for an offensive lineman.
Cousins and rodgers on the same team would be funny, but honestly, I hope it happens so cousins can have a successful team! Bro is too good to be 0-3, and the jets are too good to be 1-2. It just makes sense.
Too good? 😅😅😅
pir·ou·ette (n.) Zach Wilson doing pirouettes in the pocket and falling down with no one touching him , LOL
Impossible to understand how this kid made it through evaluators and wound up the second choice in the draft. He looks like a shy high schooler. Wishing the best for the kid.
Mel Kiper, he is responsible for any out of left field QB draft projects. I.e. will Levis hype.
He probably would've turned out a different QB if the 49ers,. Chiefs, or rams drafted him. The jets have a track record of destroying qbs.
"He might go to bed early." Too funny
Every Jets star is going to request a trade by 1-5. They need to get Wentz or Ryan in that building tomorrow. Both have literally called the Jets looking for a shot. Are either of those great choices, no, but they are certainly better than what we have sitting here now.
Wentz is made of glass. You'd be back to square one after one hit.
@@jarredconnorg2980- wentz on a bad day is still better than Wilson
And Matty Slush would be melted with that O-Line at his age
Uh huh huh huh uh, hey Beavis! He said, "pop a gummie!" 😆
Mac Jones can’t play
Pats needs to draft a QB
@jetsbaby8117They win in spite of him. None of those wins are because of Mac
He’s a liability. Mac is no better than Russell Wilson
Zach Wilson = All Brake, No Gas
It ain't Zach's fault. This is squarely on the FO. We knew who Zach was, it's not a surprise. JD had all summer to get a reasonable backup and now we pay the price.
They reached to pick him.
Drank the kool aid and believed the reports that he’s the next Brett Farve.
😂
Your FO is a JOKE.
@@magacop5180Douglas had done a good job outside of this position. But he’s decisions at qb will get the entire staff fired
Streveler is way better than Boyle. Zach should be giving them water.
Trade for Cousins. Try to win a playoff game
The unintended irony of this ...
@@canislupus5 Lol yep. At least Kirk can throw a football
Try to win one game first, because Kirk hasn't yet.
Great comments and it does reflect on the fans opinions. But why does this not resonate with Saleh and Douglas???
With all due respect to Rich, the Jets did NOT make all the proper plans. It wasn't that hard to anticipate that a 39-yo QB could be injured, and the Jets would be right where they are now. Joe D should shoulder a lot of the blame for this. Zach is a good kid and has the physical tools, but he just doesn't have what it takes between the ears to be an NFL QB. Joe D has fallen hard for the sunk cost fallacy.
"paintin fences and waxin cars.." Outstanding reference 🙏
Just bring Wentz in. Why are the Jets being so stubborn?
look at Mac Jones' stat sheet this week Rich LOL... this aged well
Even with Rodgers, most people predicted the Jets to be 2-4 or 3-3 after 6 weeks. If they manage another win, that is a testament to Rob for keeping them in it together.
No one was predicting that
What? Noone, no one, was predicting that. At worst they said 3-3. Most hoping 4-2
Zach went to my Alma Mater, so I hope he does well. but I'm also a Patriots fan and a realist. Zach's only possible way to get better is to go to Canada for a couple of years. Two more games like this and he's gone for good
Nice kid, but I doubt he’d survive the CFL..
Straight up Rodgers for Cousins. I've been picturing like a premonition Aaron in Purple just like Farve.
Probably won’t happen unfortunately
Omg..... if the packers could beat the vikings with Rodgers playing for them..... oh God please let that happen haha rodgers with the queens haha
At this point you might as well tank for Caleb Williams and have him sit behind Rodgers next year.
Wilson is far more qualified to scam on 40 somethings than play FB. The Jets drafted him and they got what they deserve. Draft better!! This season is over so stop being shocked every weekend like we dont know whats coming...
Rich describing his feelings is gold😂
Please don't give up on Wilson yet. Give him 1 more game to see what he can do. Chiefs kingdom.
Absolutely the best at sports talk - Rich Eisen!! So entertaining. So objective!!
FTF is the best 🤣😄😀😀💯💯💯💯
To be fair- bob saleh has never had the offense look good in his entire tenure as coach. Him and zach should go but im not a jets fan
PERSONALLY I also blame this New Generation of Jets fans who shout down anyone who has. A negative word to say about the Jets. Zach Wilson is a BUST! Accept it. This waiting and hoping the Jets Front Office is doing is HURTING the team.
You gotta feel for the Jets and their fans, brother.. it’s rough
I noticed on most passes he’s going on the same snap count. The Pats were timing their blitz on the count, “green 18 set hut.”
I was so pleased when I picked up Jets D/ST in the fantasy draft. Soon as Rodgers went down I was worried, after week 2 I moved on and picked up Chiefs D instead. No defense can hold up when you have an abyssmal QB that can't find his way to the men's room, much less lead an NFL offense.
The Patriots O-Line has been getting (rightfully) grilled this season, but there hasn’t been any praise where it’s due and I hate seeing that. Vederian Lowe went from getting traded to the pats, to starting at LT week 2, then RT week 3 and he’s held up pretty well so far. If he can make RT steady while Big Mike, Trent, and Cole get healthy, they’ll be able to control teams later in the season
Mark Sanchez, Geno Smith, Sam Darnold, Zack Wilson...all high draft QB's who failed, or will fail, with the Jets. Maybe the problem isn't the QB...just sayin'
Zach will NEVER be ready. Mahomes was born ready.
Jets OVERHYPED is a understatement! Spent all that cash, and flopped. Even if Rodgers was healthy, they would still be a funky fb team. This cant all be on Zach, because it ALL stinks!
In the photo being shown is he holding the football incorrectly?
He'll never be ready.
Zach is the future of Jets. Its not always about winning. It's better to look good then winning.
Well put, Mr. Eisen!!!! Unfortunately! SMDH!!! Same ol Jets. Damn shame!
Im new to watching football and am wondering if someone can help me understand something. Who makes the call on acquiring a new QB? If Saleh tells the GM it’s time does it happen? Is it all up to the coach? What say does the GM and or owner have? If Saleh wants to stay with Zach but the GM and owner want to make a change does it happen? I don’t understand the dynamics behind how this kind of decision and action takes place. Would appreciate any kind of insight from the knowledgeable football fans.
Saleh: His accuracy is much improved
Reality: 50%
Saleh: His pocket presence is much improved
Reality: 3 sacks from holding the ball too long; multiple open receivers missed or not even seen
Saleh is a nice guy; but if he really believes that BS, he's gotta go.
The Jets have three good RB's, the offence needs to run through them, bring in O-line help if any can be found, and add blocking TE and FB help . Then run the ball as often as possible. Or just let nature take its course and draft a QB to learn from Rodgers.
I was there. It was sickening to see Salah Coddle Zach Wilson for another game.
7:05 "the football gods decided to kick him in the gnards again" hahaha
"Boy they should just dissect it"
- Rich Eisen as he looks at a bigass picture of Zach Wilson..
What's amazing is last year they knew he couldn't play and they went with Mike White. But now they seem to think he can play? You could see in the preseason that Zach Wilson can't move the team or put points on the board. It is management's fault. The coach, the general manager whoever who is involved in creating the team.
My neighbor who is a Jets fan said since Zach Wilson has been quarterback he is losing his hair true story.
At least Zach Wilson doesn't drive around New York in a Shedeur-style Rolls Royce flashing his Rolex.