Test-Driving The Volkswagen ID. Buzz
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
- The Volkswagen ID Buzz takes a legendary concept - the VW microbus, and adapts it to a new high-tech and electric era. It is perhaps one of the most anticipated EVs in years and something VW hopes will propel it to better sales in the US. Currently the brand has just 2.5% of the market, despite parent VW Group being the second largest automaker in the world. Volkswagen wants to double its market share by 2030, as it leans deeper into EVs. It has its work cut out for it. Besides the VW brand’s low market share, EVs made up just 8% of US sales in 2022 and the segment perhaps closest to the ID Buzz - minivans - made up less than 2%. But it does have heritage on its side. The VW Type 2, better known as the Bus, microbus, hippie van, and a dozen other nicknames, was, along with the Type 1 or Beetle, perhaps one of the most iconic vehicles of the 1950s and 60s. But like the Beetle, the VW bus was later discontinued in the US.
CNBC went to Huntington Beach, California, to test drive the ID Buzz and see if this throwback can live up to its legendary heritage and position VW for a better future in America.
Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
01:21 - Test-Driving the Volkswagen ID. Buzz
Producer: Robert Ferris
Editor: Darren Geeter
Production Support and Camera: Sydney Boyo, Andrew Evers
Senior Managing Producer: Tala Hadavi
Additional sources: Hagerty, Edmunds
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Test-Driving The Volkswagen ID. Buzz 
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Can't wait for the California trim with sink, table, cooktop, and bed.
for the soon to be homeless Cali-middle class.
@@billmoyer3254 🤝
@@billmoyer3254they wont be making a camper version due to not having the demand yet for it
I can't wait. I love Buzz. But im also a crazy person who's only ever owned volkswagens ❤
Initially it was supposed to be starting at 40k but 60+ is crazy. I wish they remade the 60’s design and had simple volume know instead of the touch screen slides. I want a vintage VW bus for camping and road-trips but I the new car reliability. I also would have loved to see a non plug in hybrid like a Prius in case people are going out of range during road-trips
I think your on the money with a plug in hybrid bus.
They need to make cheaper EVs for working-class and small businesses.
exactly. They already have a few decent options and revealing a production-ready ID2.all in a year or so. Unsurprisingly, none of their compact affordable options are destined for North Americans; someone at Volkswagen feels like North Americans only purchase the largest most luxurious vehicles manufacturers can build, with a seemingly endless supply of money (or debt)
What price then? I look forward to what you are looking for when it comes to cheaper.
@@billsmith5960 Tesla is launching a $25k EV next year. Educate yourself, dude!
@@MisterMonsieur - Is it solar powered and has a 1000 mile range?
My family of 5 is desperately looking forward to this van hitting the US. We have a 7 seater model Y, and will one day need a bigger car, but we want to stay EV. This will be our answer.
Who uses the 3rd row in your Y normally and how often?
Honestly I would of loved it, if it had a more rounded shape and round headlights like the OG. Still looks promising and good looking though.
"round headlights"
It would have been cool.
The price and lack of the short version will likely have our family looking elsewhere.
60k is way too much for this EV most people will not buy it nor can they afford it! The Software Eco-System on the current EV VW's is trash! Good luck VW you will need it!!!
No the Volkswagen Buzz is amazing,mindblowing and gamechanging!
@@brunoheggli2888 I agree with you but the MSRP at 60k only people with deep pockets will buy it.
@@rifleman42051 You can buy a used one or sell your family!
@@rifleman42051 They gave it features/ tech borrowed from Audi/ Porsche. Big mistake! You're right, this "bus" should be $30k.
@@MisterMonsieur Thanks for the info! The software system on VW EVs is horrible!!!
If they decided to remake the original, update it, then sell it for even double it's equivalent today price of $22k they would likely have waiting lists for years. This thing at $60k is a joke. Plus, did I hear him say he accidently switched something on because his hand moved over a haptic switch?...yeah, VW still not listening to their customers, no one wants haptic feedback, they want REAL buttons.
It's a shame that they didn't keep some of the styling cues of the concept car. That and not offering the SWB version here in the US and the 60-80K price tag makes this a no go for me. I'll wait and see if the Canoo Lifestyle vehicle makes it to market.
swb?
@@fernfractal short wheel base
Canoo has been posturing for 4 years. I would really like to see their MPDV cargo van though. That would be better for VanLife
The US version is simply to big for what I want or need. If Volkswagen eventually brings the shorter wheel base model to America I would definitely be in line.
Looks fun. I think frontal crash regulations really limited their options for the front design.
Very annoyed that the European short version (and cargo version) will not be coming to the US...
If it started at 40 I’d buy one for sure. But 60 is ridiculous
Having grown up in the 60s and 70s I miss the days of Volkswagen. Loved my 2013 bug TDi. 🐞
60k seems a little high for what it is
How much should it be?
A little? lol
60k? Whos designing these cars in VW???
Maybe when it fails in the first year they'll build one WITHOUT all the Audi/ Porsche tech features. 🙄
An Open Letter to VW:
I want it to look more like the older bus types. That slanted windshield and protruding front bumper kills the fun for me. It looks like a minivan, not a bus. I want to hear that it has camping mode!!! Tesla gets it and thinking about experience centric details like this is part of their $850 billion market cap. I want fold flat back seats so we can put in a bed. I have some real nostalgia for the brand (our family had 2 VWs as a kid, a bus and a beetle), but this doesn't scratch it. My dad had an older VW bus with mattress in the back and bench seats in the front. It was pure freedom! 3 people could travel in style sacrifice nothing, play at the creek or beach, grill a meal using the back as a staging area, then take an afternoon nap on the bed in the back (we would leave between 5 and 6 to avoid traffic and "get the most from your day" so everyone was ready to relax by 2pm), hang out and look at the stars in some remote place, then be able to drive back late at night. No one was super exhausted and unsafe to drive (because of the nap). When it was parked at the house people would sometimes hang out in the bus and put on a radio and play board games or with indoor toys. Like a tree house on wheels. The only problem was we couldn't in the winter or peak summer because of the temperature (totally fixable with electric). The car also worked fine as a daily driver (unlike a camper/RV would), but gave us a decent taste of that life. You have the opportunity to do that here, please don't mess it up!
Much Love,
James
PS. If you take this product feedback, I think you will make something that will resonate with a large number of people. I'm not saying you are going to dethrone the F150, but even a small slice of it's market share could double VW's. There are a LOT of American families that want a bus experience, but just don't know it yet.
Newer regulations wouldn’t allow a more flat front.
Currently on my 7th VW and would be the prime customer for this van. If VW refuses to ditch their cost cutting elimination of buttons crusade I'll probably end up in an EV9 or some other competitor who isn't going to nickle & dime their customers.
They are actually going back to normal buttons in the next years
@@m3lvin449 I'll believe it when I see it. Talk is cheap
Way to support the emissions cheaters! You are awesome!
@@spazzman90 I forgot I'm supposed to be mad at a company for snubbing their nose at the gov to give their customers a better product. My bad.
There are 2 types of people. The vw fan boys and people with brains. And I think I know who this is marketed towards.
☠☠☠
I'm not sure who this is made for. It doesn't look like the old one so it doesn't really invoke any nostalgia. It doesn't have any of the features of a modern camper van despite being the same inflated price. It doesn't have enough room for real utility like a regular Ford Transit or Sprinter. It looks like a minivan so rich luxury brand buyers won't pick it up. What exactly is the target market?
They should have just followed the example of the oldschool one. A cheap camper van to take advantage of the current vanlife trend with marketing throwing back to the good ol' days of hippies roaming the country in these things while being super eco-friendly. I feel like the market is hot for that right now.
Been asking myself the same questions since it was announced. And for $60k? Forget about it.
$60k starting price for this is gonna be a huge miss. An affordable and practical box on wheels is how I would describe the old buses. Add EV efficiency and reliability to that old formula and you'd have a hit. This just feels like a poor attempt at using nostalgia to fetch a higher price for an ID 4 with sliding doors.
this VW buzz has convinced me to consider owning an EV. 🎉
I will be buying this car. And I am a Tesla nut.
Can't wait
Europe will have the long version too with all the options that are mentioned . It is just that the US won't get the shorter version. The acceleration of 10 seconds plus is for the current version with the smaller engine, all new versions will get the 286HP engine that will give it a better performance.
It would be interesting to see how vw can make an EV unreliable
To begin with, I am a VW guy.
I love the looks, but the swipe controls that VW has gone with turn me off. Did you notice that both of the guys had issues with them?
I have no problems with EVs. It's just that the lack of range (especially in the winter) is a concern. Once the technology catches up with North American geography and weather, I will take a look.
It's not a minivan, it's just a tall, square, three row large hatchback with a sliding door designed to be the maximum interior space for exterior volume. Oh wait a minute, that's what a minivan is! Great job VW. You'll sell dozens of them.
@CNBC Is this segment paid for by VW, or is this a CNBC driven piece?
Yes
What hippie can afford that price…..
A rich hippie
They didn't buy brand new ones. They bought old ones.
That'll be $110k after taxes and dealer mark ups.
Yes sir 🤝
60k for that is an insult. let those buy it for the "look at me" factor.
Its way to cheap!
It's annoying how every business is heading towards the luxuary crazy trying to gain higher profits while the working poor and crumbling middle class have fewer and fewer options than ever. Sad. Just Sad.
It's crazy. They literally are called the peoples car and they lost sight of it. They had the beetle, the bus, the Jetta, all cars that were cheap and great first cars. They need to keep that formula. If they want to charge more money for more creature comforts let those who can afford it buy Audis. So stupid and disappointing being a VW buyer all my life myself.
Yes, fewer and fewer cars for the working-class ... while the political class and tree huggers try to ban the only car you can afford!
It make happy moment for me.
Question is how do DIY this thing into a van life vehicle?
Great job Volkswagen. Waiting decades for a new bus and you once again show us something that you won't be offering for sale. What's the damn point?
Honestly, VW shouldnt bother. Its gonna be lost money. This thing not gonna fly in USA. They just need to see this comment and maybe they can save hundreds of millions
They will sell like crazy,dont worry!
@@brunoheggli2888 An EV that's slow with less range than Tesla for double the price? Really? Really?
@@MisterMonsieur Tesla has nothing to compeat!
@@brunoheggli2888 Neither does VW at these prices. Nobody is going to buy these. Dealers will have to give them away on cheap leases, then they'll find a second life in the pre-owned market. It'll be a niche product, not the mass market seller VW wants.
Why the hell does the US version have to be bigger?!
for our gigantic elephant arses
I suppose, but I have a skinny little ass that doesn’t need three rows!
@@billmoyer3254🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣☠
We like everything bigger over here: cars, food, houses, sports scores, etc. Nothing small ever. 💯
at 3:35 when the product manager swipes and it doesn't register the input 💀. I have the atlas 24' and the capacitive buttons are so annoying.
60k? No way! They gonna drop the price around 40k for sure.
Nice, but not for me. Give me the European version with shorter wheel base, drop the touch sensitive pads and replace them with traditional buttons as they are safer and much less prone to miss-touch (like in the video). But definitely give use bright colors. I have a grayscale vehicle because I cannot get a colorful car, not because I want a grey, white, or black car. Lastly, a premium feel on a car is the details that work well, and a car that feels well built, not a bunch or lights and touch screens. Oh, and this is someone from the US in case you are thinking it's someone from Europe.
I agree.
They announced this years ago and Volkswagen is now finally getting ready to sell it. This might just be DOA. Especially since most cars in North America are switching to the NACS connector for their 2025 models.
I could almost agree with you, but American public were talking about here. Why do people still continue to buy mediocre vehicles from this emissions cheating, animal gassing company? At a premium price even.
All ev r fun to drive not only this.
I would like to have a VW some day
Keep on dreaming! Some day you too can support this company that cheats emissions and gasses animals!
They have written in hindi as well on the van or bus.. Is it coming to India??
Nah . Would cost 50 lacs or more here
They had me until the price point. That's gonna be tough.
Expensive and slow, but useful and good looking
Looks like the future. Loving it! Good appearance, environmental friendly, low maintenance, and saves buck too!
It does indeed. What a time to be alive.
Looks like a joke, especially at that price point!
The Toyota Hiace/Granvia and the Lexus LM 350 or LM 500 are already in another league when it comes to minivans even if offered only as diesels or hybrids which for now is better for long distance driving. Sadly they won't sell them in the USA even if LHD versions are for sale in Asia which is such a pity!
If VW would make this in a TDI that has 300hp, gives 50mpg and it cost $20K, that would be what I'd buy.
So, when does the bare bones 20k version come out so I can run uber/lyft in it lol
Ultimate test is Vanlife....
Put that girl Gabby Petito in it
Jeffrey! 😍
if you don't like the electric one, then buy the normal VW T6 or T7 van ....
Base of 60k I'm buying a Tesla
Same here. I'm buying a Tesla van too.
Got to give vw credit. They invented the fan boy. Long before Steve Jobs and Elon Musk they had buyers who would blindly buy their products. For everyone else this is a 90’s mini van that happens to be electric. It’s slow, doesn’t have much range and is over priced.
Damn straight! Doesn't matter how many times they cheat emissions or gas animals, too! Before Bill Clinton, there was VW. Always able to shake off negative stories!
I'm one of those VW "fan boys" and I feel completely abandoned by the brand, especially as they impose the 🏳🌈 agenda.
U want a minivan that will 100 💯 of thousands of miles with basic maintenance that’s has great resale value there only one. The Toyota Siena
Anyone even thinking about one of these things couldn't care less about those logical things you mention. Or anyone who buys any German car for that matter. It's all about showing how much money you can throw away. I've never understood it.....
Creating a new “bus” segment is hard.
Seriously? Can't buy the smaller version in the US? All my interest in this is completely lost.
You need a big one to hold your big burger 🤣 Probably what they were thinking. ☠
Modern safety rules prohibit the seating forward of the front wheels like on the original VW bus. But man that smushed front hood looks so ugly compared to the original
It is a miniVan. It isn't a bus. Lol 😂🤣😂🤣
What's the difference between a Bus and a Minivan?
Why is it that the automakers (and society as a whole) always cater / desire for the luxury/ premium feel. What happened to simole and less complex. Guess I am just a luddite. Fortunately there are lots of used vehicles that are simpler
make them super reilable and i will buy one
The battery management system and user interface improved a lot with the ID7. I would wait until this is also applied to the ID Buzz. The current model is overpriced.
Make a hybrid version as well and you'll discover a larger demographic by way of folks interested.
its a regular minivan dc what they call it
Hybrids were cool 20 years ago
No, the "Big Question" is WHO? Who does VW think wants a $60k EV "bus" with cramped space and retro looks? Why does it need turning Porsche headlights? Why does it need LiDar self-parking? Why does it need all of these techno nonsense features?
$60k.
I’m out
This should be 30$ ,000
I’d rather the 2nd row be removable to have a flat floor for my dogs
Make it gasoline or hybrid as well. What's battery life? On gas you can a car for decades.
Very nice vehicle but at the rate the Chinese are building /improving EVs , I cannot see VW competing, they will lose mkt share in key mkts like China.
"Far out." Lol
Too expensive. VW doesn’t make vehicles for the workers or students anymore
I agree. The Jetta starts at just over $20K. It should be $10K. Then when I bought my 2000 Jetta TDI for 20K, I only did it because I was super rich at the time.
@@billsmith5960 Average U.S. salary is $31,772 -- no financial advisor would tell anyone to buy a car double their salary!
Why not have a two row version of the Buzz for US market? The van like shape would give it way more space than a Compact SUV. I guess it’s too smart of a move. 🤦♂️
For a vehicle launching in 2024 and not having even 300 miles of range, it is overpriced! I'm a big fan of this vehicle but disappointed with the specs.
Completely failed in China, now trying to get up to speed in us. 😂
Prithvi prem karotu😂
Punch buggy no pinch back
0 to 60 in 10 seconds is dangerously slow
I thought for sure that was a typo. I haven't seen all of them, but-- that would make it the slowest accelerating EV I've seen. That's like '90s Toyota Corolla quick...
The voice presenter is great all the time. It is just that I am expecting some new voices. Grow kind of tired of it.
I love VW, but it's too much of a minivan. Had they thrown retro elements in, such as the rounded headlights, likeness of the hubcaps, likeness of the sideview mirrors, then it would sell like crazy. Plus it needs to be a plug in hybrid!!!! That would be another big appeal. Please VW, don't bring that long wheelbase here nor price the Buzz out of consideration. VW isn't listening to the market nor lovers of the brand. SMH
Sorry but this is NOTHING like the Volkswagen Type 2
I love this bus and would have wanted it to succeed badly.
But Jesus Hewlett Packard Christ $60k USD base price??? No one is spending that.
How about Volkswagen stops trying to create such a differentiation between the North American and European market. Why would we necessarily get a more up-scale interior (that we'd be paying for) and a longer wheelbase (that we'd also be paying for) as a base? I'm a Canadian, and our family has 2 gas-powered compacts hauling our 2 kids with no problem (2014 Jetta & 2014 Mazda3). A 2-row bus would suit our family's situation perfectly. A $60k USD bus (...$81k CAD?) would absolutely not.
Still waiting on these cheap EVs that keep remaining on the horizon. Volkswagen keeps thinking North Americans ONLY buy really large, really expensive luxury items.
People have been overpaying for VW crap for decades. Of course they will sell some of these....
Price a German version of the T7 right now.
again volkswagen gifts cars and buses to cnbc?
Share Lukman abunwwas
At those prices, vw won’t have a bright future in USA
Wow Germans really can’t do new design lol
They don't want to steal Audi sales.
@@spazzman90 Even Audi has abandoned the genius of their Digital Cockpit to plaster the dash with cheap tablets.
If they had a diesel version I would go right now to place an order
where were you in 2015? Diesel is done; EVs will become the only option in about a decade's time. (and that's not a bad thing either)
@@ThePilotGearexactly
I will buy one right now if it's a TDI, gives 50 mpg and costs $30K. It also has to have a pop top and full camper setup. I do not understand why VW doesn't do this. We are rich like the Europeans where a T7 TDI with a Pop top starts at $75K. They need to give me a break as I am here in the US and poor.
@@ThePilotGear Sorry but you are clueless my friend, there are still: big ships, trains, trailer trucks, tractors and small vehicles all running on diesel, to get off my caddy TDI I need a diesel vehicle, Im used to the enormous torque it provides
@@aldoleyvam Doesn’t mean cars should keep driving on diesel too. Also: electric cars often have far more torque than a diesel.
The front wheel used to be right under the driver, looks like a minivan, nah I still like the old one better👎
I'm going to save my money and get a Tesla
Very bad!
LIthium mining destroys the environment.
Gasoline burning much much muuuuuch more
@@aspitola No, it's NOT! Lithium and fires from EV cars helped cause the fires in Maui spread. Also, those cars are a serious fire hazard when they get flooded out in high waters they can catch serious fires. Plenty of YT videos of Lithium fires. Lithium mines are bad for the environment and so are the cars. It's NOT the answer!
@@Boxagami So what's the answer?
@@aspitola Answer for what? Junk science? They want to reduce carbon and methane. They want to reduce YOU and ME. Not just car pollution. Watch the WEF and they state it clearly! They don't want you to own a pet, they don't want you to own a car. They want to cut down trees and bury them to reduce carbon and build solar panels and windmills in place of trees that produce oxygen. They're a global liberal communist CULT of idiot's! Not environmentalist in the least bit! They don't want you to eat meat anymore, they want you to eat bugs. All this stated clearly with the World Economic Forum of idiot's.
@@aspitola Lithium mining absolutely destroys the environment, even poisoning the water table. ICE vehicles don't cause half the harm that we've been told. The solution to CO2 emissions? PLANT MORE TREES!
It’s not large enough to be a bus… but not wide enough to be a van… hence it’s a Minivan. Just because you want to pretend that the label you put on it will keep it out of the stereotype leaning of minivans does a difference not make.
I am a father. I have a girlfriend and a grandfather I car for. No new vehicle in the market is capable of providing me a one size solution for family transport.
This would have… if not for the price point.
Give me a cheap gas powered one with little frills and wasted luxury material and I’ll be at the dealership ready.
I’m only this upset because this vehicle is exactly what is needed for my family… but we won’t be able to afford it.
60k for a mediocre looking van.... i suspect it isnt going to sell very well
Only 2.5% Matket ???? By now the company should know that they are a terrible company.
...and shortly production will stop.
If its EV : ((((( otherwise luv it
Over $60,000????? It's gonna flop...... this VW van is not going to be a big seller.... it's less practical than the Toyota Sienna or Honda odyssey...... VW is going to run out of trendy buyers.... families with kids are not going to put out $70,000 for a VW van when they know the reliability records of the brand is poor..... this new VW van will flop just like its predecessors the VW van of the 90s, EURO Van of the 2000s, and the rebadged Dodge Caravan known as the "Routan" back in the 2010s..... all these previous VW vans flopped because of their high price and poor value.....
Don't buy Volkswagen. The spare parts cost a fortune.
Let's move away from personal vehicles.
You go right ahead!
@@spazzman90 Right? LOL.
Sell it already!