Removable console is because removing it lets you get in the front seat from the back without exiting, which is nice if your tiny van is a tiny camper.
3:40 I am a reverse-parker. I always reverse into parking lots, because it makes it much easier to get in. No rear getting close to the neighboring car. And it makes it even more easy to get out later - no long blind reverse out of tight spaces. For me, a badge covered charger is the worst possible placement.
I agree totally and would go as far to say, “It should be a motoring offence to back out of a parking space” especially onto an A or B road As a cyclist as well as being a motorist it is hugely dangerous The bottom line is that if you are capable of backing out, you are capable of backing in
@@mikesl1573 I can understand that parking lots bordering a wall like underground garages sometimes ask for forward parking, as the exhaust would otherwise blow directly at the wall.
@@SiqueScarface If you have a chargeport in the rear, you might in many (but not all ) cases have no exhaust pipe at all. So placing the Charge port in the rear is the #1 place for people with your thinking... Why am I schooling you here about YOU beeing right?
@@TremereTT I know, I just wanted to elaborate and talk about situations when forward parking makes sense. Loading the trunk is also easier with forward parking.
@@SiqueScarface Yea That's why I allway Park forward when shopping, but big parking places are a special traffic zone anyway, at least in Germany you have no right of way on parking places, if there could be a measure you failed to do to prevent an accident and you didn't do it, your will always be partially at fault. So you are basically forced, to help the idiots to not crash into you.
This seems to have all the things I like about my Renault Grand Scénic. Then again, I paid £500 for that, so I think this one is a bit out of my price range.
It's made for Geeks who have money to waste on cars. It's a VW Sharan with flashy bodywork - no longer a real VW van. Like you sir, I paid pennies for my Renault Espace petrol which runs without any modifications on 100% ethanol. I laugh at all these people who think that lugging the kitchen sink and a foldable double bed behind the front seats for thousands of Euros worth is cool !!!?? Why not spend that money on B&B ? You get a GOOD bed a GOOD breakfast and no need to drive a smelly bed and kitchen around behind you.
It's a rear charging connection because it's safer in a parking area, to reverse in & then your able to see more when you exit the space ! Absolutely crazy price, what are they thinking ?
I think the reason you can remove the storage unit between the two front seats is so you can flatten down all the other seats and store really long oversized things like surfboards or pipes or wood boards or lumber and such. Or as someone else pointed out, it allows the passenger seat person to go to the back of the van in case it gets converted to a camper or if you're sleeping in the van or if you have kids in the back seats.
I agree. I found that the removable center piece for the rear arm rest in my jetta allows me to haul 8ft PVC pipes w/o any trouble or needing to leave the boot open. I've blown many minds when loading PVC into my car at Home Depot, then driving away as if I didn't just load up 20 pieces of full size PVC piping 😅🙌🏾💪🏾 I'd imagine VW had the same idea in mind, regarding storage and hauling, when designing that bit 🙌🏾💪🏾
For roadtripping and outdoor usage a solar roof would be a nice addition. I don't want to own a car but having more and more options that eventually end up in car-sharing programs is just great!
@@sixtoseven7563 Basically a service where you can rent cars but because you're a member of the service you can just reserve it and open it via an app. If you're done you can just park and leave.
@@sixtoseven7563 in Germany you can rent cars through an app (instant as if it's an e-scooter rental app), one day group excursions with app rented cars is a thing. Though, you usually have to drive the car back to the initial city, and it costs a bit less than an Uber.
I hope so too, I'm now driving a DACIA Lodgy 7 seater which I bought second hand for 8500 euro when it was 6 years old. That's about my budget for a car because i also need to support a family. The pricing of most of the car market is insane compared to DACIA, I just want something that brings me and my family from A to B, don't need an infotainment system and a lot of expensive gadgets. Maybe the chines brands will finaly get a hold of europe's car market or maybe self driving cars wil take over in 20 years and you don't need to own one anymore, we will see.
@@AndreVanKammen I, too, drive a Logan. The 3 cylinder petrol turbo. Brilliantly economical and can be loaded like a van. Rest of the time, carries dogs, people, bikes, other gear. Cost me around £7k four years ago. Can't buy anything like it for that money, now. Most of my journeys are less than 30 miles so, if hat French conversion company... Transition One?... gets to the UK, I can foresee getting it converted to full electric.
I too hoping this design, including the japanese sliding door kei cars design (imagine the ID Buzz but shrinked into kei dimension e.g Tanto or N-Box) to trickle down into mainstream. I mean a boxy car with ample space when needed is better that a sportly design everyday dar. why my interest in kei car with a minivan boxy design? a cheap fuel efficient car with better usable space for a single guy who constantly moves than a sedan from a larger segment. Sure the numbers are great e.g liter volume but it doesn't matter if it has a 800l volume of space when the trunk/bonnet opening can only fit a briefcase, in comparison to a 400l space boxy car when the seats are down but you can actually stuff an exact cube of 400l.
way too expensive. I hopped they would actually make the car, but at this price, I'll never allow myself to buy one. it makes little sense. you can buy a number of poster cars plus a day to day Zoe, and be a happy man. I am editing after the review, that was convincing. I went on the site, configured one, not all the options, just what you might expect from a car with this price : power seats, elbow rest, matrix lights, a paint, charging cables, power doors, interior lights, and the grand total, is 73.000 euro. the depreciation on this car will be painful.
Having the charge point on the rear right side would actually work perfectly for my driveway and parking point. Means I can reverse in, unload the boot and plug in the charger. Or just get out of the driver's seat and plug in whilst I walk into my house. And I can set off forward without the risks involved in reversing onto the road
and as you're pouring electrons into it, as opposed to liquid fuel, why not have charge ports on both sides? Please don't put in on the front, I prefer to reverse in then drive out., unless you're going to have multiple charge points.
It makes it kind of impractical to have the charge port on the opposite side of the driver's seat. Even with gas car I always prefered to have the tank on the same side, but with an EV that's even a bigger deal because if you plug it every day at home when coming back from work, that means you'll have to go around the car twice(plug & unplug), every single day.
The Removable console should have some batteries in them and a Speaker. Can have two uses. While traveling/riding, it should be a Cooller Box, keeping ones favorite beverage nice and cold. When parked up, take the console with you to the beach, picnic park, to have as a Cooler box still, and then act as a Bluetooth Speaker. Once done, place back into car, it will recharge, and then be added to the exisitng audio as additional speaker as you head on home.
As has been said, the centre console can be removed so you access the rear from the front. Incredibly useful when parking in tight spaces, which are oh so common in the UK, allowing the driver to take advantage of the rear sliding door. Honestly if I had a buzz I'd never have that centre console installed.
The Audi e-Tron we had as a loaner took this approach. High speed port one one side and standard on the other. As it stands, I wouldn't be able to charge both this and our Mach-e at home without shuffling the cars about.
Exactly, parking in reverse has many benefits: - more agility with the steering wheels (front) on the street-side - safer to drive away: you can see all the traffic - boot is at the curb, not standing on the road to unpack is safer Reverse parking isn't hard, in fact, I'd say it's easier to park in small spaces
Reversing into charging spaces at busy motorway services can be a pita when it’s busy, especially when they’re on the way in with super narrow lanes ( Forton, Wetherby I’m looking at you..)
Or it can be hand free acces from outside to driving seat too for some situations or tight garage spaces or avoiding damaging other cars with your door opening in parking spaces
The vehicle can back itself into the parking spots....but you are worried about the charge port being in the back? Seems they've solved the problem already.
Well produced video! Removable console is to allow through passage to rear seats. I laughed at your criticism of the location of the charge port Jack :) You should always reverse into a parking bay so that you can drive out - so much safer. Plus...cars have a tighter turning circle in reverse than they do going forwards (go on, try it :) so easier to get into a bay in a car park in the first place. I think I'll buy one of these to replace my 110 Defender
I had 2 of the original air-cooled VW vans in the 1960-70s. Loved them despite the noisy lo-torque engines that took forever to climb a hilly street, and forever to heat up in the winter. But its charm and roominess outweighed all the quirks! Thrilled they are returning in an EV mode. If im still here, will get one again!
We used them for camping, but have a camping vehicle that has to be charged makes little sense in the US. Hopefully they make a hybrid that doesn't need a charge, but gets decent gas mileage. That makes more sense.
@@Joesolo13 The places worth camping at are to remote to have charging stations close enough. If you only wanted to stay at facilities that are near urban centers then it would work. But when I go camping I head away from people. Away from people equals no place to charge. They would have been better off to have made a hybrid, IMO.
I like the shape too but its boxiness will create a lot of drag which demand a big battery and take away interior space or range. I hope this saves VW though because the ID4 is a flub
And if it had, the driver wouldn’t have proper buttons to control it. It would be that nonsensical “rear” capacitive thing, and the kids would be dead the time your mind finally figure out how to operate. Sorry for getting emotional… it’s just do dumb!
Just to contradict Jack, NO CHARGING POINTS AT THE FRONT PLEASE. At the back like Tesla, ID Buzz, Corsa-E etc is the right place for them. The sensible place.
I only have experience with my car having it at the driver's side front, but that seems like the perfect position to me. Allows me to get out and plug in without wandering around the car. I hate what Hyundai/Kia and Nissan were doing with their first-gen cars, having the charge ports at the front grille. That's just asking for snow to get packed into it in the wintertime. I'm glad Hyundai/Kia abandoned that spot, but I wish they had stuck to the front. I also fear the rear ports just make rear-end fender benders that much more expensive to repair.
Now you have together to work on a new concept similar to Mercedes' concept EQT as a "minivan" powered fully electric in 4×4 power. This Exemplar is very important, in my opinion, for the countries that have a full nature of Montaigne roads, where constantly up and down must be driven. Similar to Switzerland, Lebanon, Japan, Korea, or India, not all countries have the same nature as Germany. You can also make it more attractive by adding a solar panel system to the top as a range extender. On that way, you will sell a lot of them around the world. In actual fact, already all car manufacturers had done a copy of the minivan design powered by oil-combustion motors. 🚙🚙🚙🚙🚙🚙🚙🚙🚙🚙🚙
Why on earth does this video have so many downvotes? Humorous, useful, down to earth, mix of objectivity and opinion. A car review could hardly be better.
Maybe they can remove the powered part of the sliding doors and tailgate to drop the price. The hiding towing hook could also be swapt for a standard static hook. I reckon that drops the price by 5,000.
The market segment is rich people who want to feel green, not average people trying to afford a great family car. The Price point for any of the T-Series in the last 30 years was always waaaaay too high for the everyman. Not that I agree with that Policy, but it is the reality...
I have a green/white on order, really liking the orange now. I have an ID3 with v3.0 software and it’s nowhere near as bad as it’s made out to be. My main gripe would be the controls on the wheel that are too easy to brush over and change tracks/channels. I sat in a Buzz at the fully charged show and loved it. I’ve no issues with the materials used. It’s just the perfect do anything vehicle.
Love the review, and the ID. Buzz. This would be ideal for us, camping, mountain biking and whitewater kayaking, but oh the price. Looks like we'll either have to hold on to our 2011 Outlander, or upgrade to another large SUV 😞
The VW minibuses have always been very expensive. BUT: you won't find anything apart from luxury cars that keeps its value as good as those. I sold my 2001 T4 Multivan last year for almost 15000€ - with 230tkm!
Love the look and the practicality. For that price, I'm not a fan of the interior quality. Not a fan of the software and the user interface. Range is decent. But, the price is frankly ridiculous. I think that VW has done its homework and that with the limited number of EVs it can produce at the moment, it will still be able to sell every ID. Buzz they make at that price.
Same as Tesla. If you can’t meet the demand put the price up. Saying that, Tesla is missing a trick by not having an MPV in the range. They have the cast underbody so come on folks.
Removable Center Console: As others have mentioned, useful as a passthrough to the back, also, however, very useful for extra long items like surfboards, lumber, or that latest IKEA purchase :)
Great vid as always! A point on the charge port location: a lot of businesses and industrial sites insist on reverse parking, so although the nose might be the best compromise, it wouldn’t work in all cases.
The UK highway code also recommends you should reverse into your driveway if possible so you don't have to reverse out into traffic, especially important if you live on a busy road.
@@JackScarlett1 Why not both? :D Other than a second socket and a couple of meters of cabling, shouldn't be too much issue with having dual charging sockets (doesn't the Audi or the Porsche come with 2x sockets, one either side?)
@@NickFoster Interesting, I didn't know that. I don't think I've ever seen anyone reverse into their driveway on a main road. I've always thought I'd prefer to reverse in myself!
I was wondering where Jack Scarlett disappeared from youtube. Haven’t watched Fully Charged for a while now, so didn’t know you were here. Nice to see you here my friend, your reviews are always amusing. ❤
Sadly it’s got some considerably design flaws: Very poor UX (every review of the existing iD range has destroyed it), last generation electrical architecture (no excuse for a new product to now not be running on 800v architecture), only 2 sets of ISOfix points in the second row (limiting the appeal to ‘large families), and a price point which suggests that build and materials should be a step up from those in the cabin.
If Kia/Hyundai put the Ionic 5 powertrain in a van like the Staria it'd be game over. Though I suspect they won't too soon as they've invested £100m into the Arrival Van company.
@@TremereTT It's VW's ID parts in a very interesting configuration but I just can't help thinking that a buyer is paying quite a few thousand for that VW badge.
Got to say. I don't know why they changed the face so much from the original rounded headlights. To me it just looks like a minivan with a good paint job. Really unimpressed.
A lot of those niceties are at-cost options (park assist plus, memory, fancy two-tone seats, two-tone paint, electric rear side doors, bigger infotainment screen, etc.). Even on the highest starting spec. However, it is very compelling! This over a lifestyle SUV any day.
That price is eye watering, but that driveway memory is KEY! I would really consider a 7 seat version just for that. I won’t have to take out the van for my 80 yr old mum anymore when she want to go out.
3:42 Charge port at the rear makes more sense. Reversing into a space means you do not incur negative insurance claims when leaving! If you reverse from a parking space and there is a collision, you are at fault!!! Even if you are not moving at the time of impact. (Personal experience 😠) Since which, I have tried always to reverse park. The steering wheel "buttons" are a no-no for me and I would also prefer physical controls for climate. I thought touch screen control would be ok but my current car has them and it can be a pain - even when there is a passenger to assist. Fit those two minor issues and this would be my next car. I could get both the electric scooters in along with all luggage for four people. Greater range would be a plus too for longer trips to Alps etc.
I feel like the roof needs to be higher - no sun roof is a mistake.... And there should be an option for a camper top - that is what people really want. That said - it looks wonderful!!
Does that automatic rear door actually hide the charge port flap when the door is open?? Because, if that is the case, then either getting out that door while charging is going to be impossible, or opening that door is going to damage the charge port flap, the charge port itself, or the cable from the charge point. :(
Need the seven seater to come and be as practical as the new multivan. If it's there, I'll swap from the multivan to the buzz. That's my current plan. It's a perfect car for us, a family of 5 with some complex needs that make the space a critical requirement.
Was looking for this comment - really looking forward to the variant with 6/7 seats to replace the Touran in our household. Hopefully that will happen soon so I won’t need to shell out for the new Multivan
Do not trade your multivan yet since that is more spacious inside than id-Buzz, you can also look at Multivan T7 PHEV hybrid instead for trading your older multivan, but if you still want iD-Buzz just wait a bit longer for better versions to spun out (this is my opinion anyway.. ) Safe trips.. ;0)
Channeling the spirit of the original VW transporter, even down to the representing vents behind the rear windows that would feed air to the flat four engine in the original. So yes, I have seen a vehicle that is as happy looking, it was the 1970's Transporter.
As the current owner of a VW Touran, I see this (or version 2) as my next car. The Touran is for me, the compact Swiss army knife of vehicles, so the ID. Buzz is the electric and more versatile iteration. Perhaps the electric lovechild of a Touran and a Sharan!😄
All very attractive, but the price is a killer. (Oh, and all charge ports should be at the back. Charge ports at the front are a pain and mean you have to drive forwards into parking spaces which is never a good idea.)
Yes! SUVs are pointless, I’d rather have the “tall profile” with a high ceiling, without the pretend off-road capability that you’ll never ever actually even try to use. Former ‘67 Microbus owner!
Speak for yourself. I actually like to go places that are only reachable via unpaved roads or hardly any roads at all. I am a proponent of electric cars and an electric SUV with adequate range is my dream.
@@luckystriker7489 probably 95% of so-called SUVs on the market are incapable to any serious off road driving and 98% never see anything worse than driving in snow or *maybe* a dirt road.
I have a Citroen Grand Picasso. Lots of room and possible 7 seats. I got in the Brother in law's SUV. I was amazed at how small it was. It was like an inverse Tardis. Large on the outside and small on the inside. It did not make sense to me.
Great review, Absolutely astonished so called switches do not light up! How on earth are we meant to drive the thing at night and at that price point, also why no opening rear windows?
6m48s: why to remove the console, you ask? To clean the mess and crumbs that accumulate underneath it and around it, and to pick up any loose items that fell there, of course.
Minivans need to come back strong. Even ICE ones you see on the road now would be my first choice for a family car. As was mentioned in the video, the space efficiency is unmatched and there's surprise and delight wherever you look in the cabin. Secret storage and lots of it, the middle row of seats can slide left, right, forward, back and they tend to be captains chairs, so they beat the S-Class for perceived luxury. I honestly don't see why they fell out of fashion recently. I really hope the ID Buzz makes the minivan cool again and the public outside the car lovers community, get a sense of the last word in practicality.
Charge port is in the perfect spot. Reverse into a parking/charging pay and drive out so as not to reverse into kids or trrollies. Can easily see oncoming traffic when leaving the bay its alot easier than having to put the entire 4m of van into the road to see it. This applies for garages aswell. Plus It's alot easier to reverse in and drive out, it really is. The Germans and Elon know these simple common sense driving habits. Safety first!!!! Love the van and FG!
Larger vehicles/restricted rear visibility are generally supposed to back in. Guess that got lost along the way as everything turned into oversized trucks and SUV's
Plug in point is in the perfect place, for those of us who can reverse into parking spaces, or onto their driveway so your rear doors are securely blocked against your wall or fence, so tools are safe in the back of the van. Still cant understand why no European/UK ev manufacturer hasn't gone with the Neo (Chinese) idea of having automated drive through battery swapping stations around the country. 3 minutes in and out with a fresh, fully charged battery.
I'd like to see a couple of 'fold-down' jump seats hanging off the wall in the boot. Many in North America, certainly in larger Canadian cities, must live far from epicentres due to the higher cost of living, so, to transport familly/friends and whomever, sometimes requires more than the allotted 5 seats.
How do sideways seats far in crash tests? I like the idea too, but I wonder if they are possible to actually get placed in a production car, as opposed to adding them afterward, where there's less regulation.
Car companies and dealerships better get their pricing in order, borrowing rates are going up more and more and they will no longer be able to command these ridiculous prices for everyday vehicles.
I cannot get over how good your hair is looking in this video. In previous videos it was just buzzed off and scruffy, but in this one you suddenly have stunning movie star hair.
@@freddybell8328 I realise that compared to other large EVs it's not twice ... but EVs in general are still far too overpriced ... so it's twice what just *any* decent little van should be.
Really underwhelmed with this one. I loved the prototype's design but this feels uninspired in comparison. Factor in the price and this is clearly a no go for me.
Really want this to be my next car to replace my Mercedes EQC which I’ve loved for 3 years but want a bigger boot for dogs and camping gear - loving the design and the flaws don’t seem so bad to me with the space, design and finish more than compensating for them imo for my needs
Looks fab and I hope VW sell lots as they will be a joy to see on the road. But as a follower of the original MicroBus concept, for me, the ID Buzz comes 20 years too late and having just configured one out of curiosity, I can think of dozens of vehicles I'd rather buy for £57k.
I'm in love with this kind of cars, for the same reason I have an Espace (Renault). But the price is rediculous! I get it, we were so in love with the T1, somehow it can ride the coat tails of its older sibling, but for me, this is a bit of treason. All these trendy lifestyle vehicles are sold at a price point far beyond most of our means, while the origin of this van was exactly the opposite! Out of spite, frustration, or whatever you want to call it, I would refuse to spend that kind of cash and go for both an Aptera and a conversion; My Renault Espace does all what Buzz does and more, with a massive glass roof to boot. Same dimensions, sort of, same roomy and glassy cocoon (a bit of an oxymoron if you ask me, but I get your point). Buy the Renault second hand, go to a conversion shop and have the engine swapped for tesla bits and bops and you are cheaper and better off! And if that is too much, go for the real McKoy which is the *_XBus_* IMO. Now that is the real new T1! Both in versatility as well as price point.
High base prices and then start adding the options - £70k is easy to reach ! I know because I just configured the one I would want. I love it but given the quality of the interior, it's just way too expensive. Hopefully Kia will copy it for £20k less
If you're wondering what to compare this with it's a Citroen Berlingo. Berlingo's have been the car of choice for discerning outdoor types for the last decade as they have heaps of space for the size and a 6ft person can sleep in the back. The design of this WV (including the pointless removable centre storage bit) is clearly based on the Berlingo. The only problem with the electric berlingo is the range..
Removable centre console? The best part of my old Kombi, I thought, was that I could jump from the front straight through the centre to the back without having to get out. Slightly acrobatic and contortionist I know, but I did it with aplomb.
Does the sliding back door block the charging port when open? How's the view to front/side with those massive double posts? I know it creates a big blind spot in the Prius - really easy to miss pedestrians at intersections. And I notice the back seats don't have an option to just fold down the middle seat, that's a miss for sliding in surfboards/skis down the middle when four people are in the car.
Thanks Jack for a fair and decent video. Thumbs up for the video. £57k!!!!!!!!!!! That is a lot of money and a lot of plastic. When/if the Canoo is built, it is expected to be half this price!!!!! Thumbs down for the silly VW price.
EVs usually end up being more expensive than initial predictions. Plus with a VW product you will have better dealer backup when someone smashes your wing mirror off or similar.
@@HelloMyFriend_ Because imho you can't compare a car with a van. A van is heavier and less aerodynamic. On the other hand it offers loads of space. It depends on your needs. For the energy consumption, you'd better compare an EV van with another EV van.
@@tanguydelooz2881 loads of space? Three people at the back would not sit comfortably. Sure, it has lots of luggage room. Great for the luggage I guess 🙂
I was at your recent FCL in San Diego and I had the opportunity to discuss the ID Buzz with Ben Sullins. You may know that he is rolling out a piece of software called EV Decide. It's an app that helps you decide which EV you should buy based on how you answer questions on a set of pre-determined parameters. It's an excellent idea, but it falls down on this car. As I told him - I wouldn't care if the ID Buzz scored a 0 on every metric - it's going to be my next car no matter what. And that's because of exactly what you described. Doug DeMuro calls it the Cool Factor and Ben's app doesn't have that (because it's too subjective, and I get that). But this car just oozes Cool Factor and I'm gonna buy it for that reason alone. Brilliant review Jack!
I read an SUV reviewer's lament years ago - even though he'd suggest a car he thought suited a person's needs - invariably they'd reply " I can see myself in XYZ". So he suggested printing a passport sized photo and he had photos of all the cars with a blank oval in the driver's window. Then you could "see" which car you looked coolest in! :-)
The IDBuzz weighs 1000 lbs more than a Ford F150, with half the utility of the F150 in doing actual 'work' (i.e. building things and not just carrying hipsters around town). How is that better for the environment?!
Well done, a very honest and straight forward review of an iconic model reborn. I have screamed at your rants about large impractical SUVs (I hate them too) but I really love how you switched that part of your brain off to review the ID Buzz. I'd have one in a heartbeat, no question. What I hate is traditional providers turning off the comfort/luxury factor in a race to the bottom on margins. Is there really an enormous margin in dialling everything back to the feel of a milk crate in your interior v a soft touch? Or even making your infotainment system so unnavigable during the night hours or requiring four to five clicks just to control the interior temperature? I think the Euro and ANCAP vehicle safety ratings need to be inclusive of the amount of distraction given by a so called infotainment that are merely poorly developed rubbish, don't turn away VW, you are possibly the worst in this area.
More like it’s just the next iteration of the VW sharan, the buzz even has the same cup holders (in the sharan they were for row 2) . The rear layout is identical to the 1st edition of the 7n sharan
11:57 no Glass roof? :/ At least there are trays on the back of the front seats :) They should rotate backwards, from top to down in order to not hit the knees, like the old Citroen Xsara Picasso had.
Aside from the fixed rear windows, I LOVE it. However, at that price, I'd recommend cross-shopping a model Y. You might pay a little more, but it's a hell of a car. If VW could price these under 40K, they'd sell millions of them.
@@damnmister Terrible design, terrible quality, no soul, overpriced, no sound, at the mercy of software updates, no upgradability or aftermarket support, the list goes on...
I want to see actual kids and seats being hauled in and out of a car before it’s declared “perfect". Especially at that price point. For daily city driving with 2 small people, plus occasional spares, I'd rather see something like the old Mazda 5. If you only have two car seats and never have spares, I guess you could get this? But why?
Very nice review, and it's reassured me that ordering one was a smart move! No clue when we'll get it, though. Ours will be Two-tone, White over Bay leaf green (greenish turquoisey color) with white and jade green interior. It's gonna be superb, I'm sure of it. Really axious to get it now, after watching this :P
Can you use the side door if the charge port is in use? Looks like not (not sure if you'd want to but there you go). I think I would very much like one of these though. I know I'm old but does anyone else get annoyed by the blurry zoom trend? Trying to show the viewer something but don't focus on it for most of the shot.
@@kenk8215 Well it's a German car, so the Autobahn seems like an obvious answer. Beyond that, regardless of legality over 90 is not an uncommon passing speed on American highways with limits of 75-80mph.
I will consider one of these if the price is right. In America they are making the electric and hybrid SUVs that are coming out with less storage and are more of a crossover. They will not fit my two large dogs in the back without putting down the back seats. My regular gas Toyota Rav4 is not that big to begin with, but they are making all the new ones smaller. The whole point in a SUV is the storage.
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Removable console is because removing it lets you get in the front seat from the back without exiting, which is nice if your tiny van is a tiny camper.
And presumably allows the front seat to pivot when we get to a campervan configuration
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Adding more weight to it? So that's the range down to 150 then
@@JackScarlett1 Also if you have kids in the back, it allows your passenger or partner to have easier access to the little ones.
Helps to get a nice long plank of wood in too I expect
3:40 I am a reverse-parker. I always reverse into parking lots, because it makes it much easier to get in. No rear getting close to the neighboring car. And it makes it even more easy to get out later - no long blind reverse out of tight spaces. For me, a badge covered charger is the worst possible placement.
I agree totally and would go as far to say, “It should be a motoring offence to back out of a parking space” especially onto an A or B road
As a cyclist as well as being a motorist it is hugely dangerous
The bottom line is that if you are capable of backing out, you are capable of backing in
@@mikesl1573 I can understand that parking lots bordering a wall like underground garages sometimes ask for forward parking, as the exhaust would otherwise blow directly at the wall.
@@SiqueScarface If you have a chargeport in the rear, you might in many (but not all ) cases have no exhaust pipe at all. So placing the Charge port in the rear is the #1 place for people with your thinking...
Why am I schooling you here about YOU beeing right?
@@TremereTT I know, I just wanted to elaborate and talk about situations when forward parking makes sense. Loading the trunk is also easier with forward parking.
@@SiqueScarface Yea That's why I allway Park forward when shopping, but big parking places are a special traffic zone anyway, at least in Germany you have no right of way on parking places, if there could be a measure you failed to do to prevent an accident and you didn't do it, your will always be partially at fault. So you are basically forced, to help the idiots to not crash into you.
This seems to have all the things I like about my Renault Grand Scénic. Then again, I paid £500 for that, so I think this one is a bit out of my price range.
Renault should bring those back, swiffle seats, panorama window 👍
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And your Renault has wayy better range...
Like the Mazda 5 in configuration
It's made for Geeks who have money to waste on cars.
It's a VW Sharan with flashy bodywork - no longer a real VW van.
Like you sir, I paid pennies for my Renault Espace petrol which runs without any modifications on 100% ethanol.
I laugh at all these people who think that lugging the kitchen sink and a foldable double bed behind the front seats for thousands of Euros worth is cool !!!??
Why not spend that money on B&B ? You get a GOOD bed a GOOD breakfast and no need to drive a smelly bed and kitchen around behind you.
This is off topic for sure… but man, this video just looks incredible. The shots, the cuts, the grading. Wow.
boatyard to boot !!!
Yeah these guys have it down, really worth putting it in 4k for once
Really appreciate this, worked very hard shooting this in a few hours
Yes!
The combo of the top host and video production really makes this a joy to watch. Better than anything on tv.
I like that he got dressed up in his finest sweatpants.
I loved it
The rear windows not opening at all is a massive own goal by VW in my opinion.
It does seem a very odd choice - no vents back there either
Where's thev damn HUD also.
Touch controls on the steering wheel too. No one asked for that
This is why I will buy big annoying suv
own goal?
It's a rear charging connection because it's safer in a parking area, to reverse in & then your able to see more when you exit the space !
Absolutely crazy price, what are they thinking ?
That does make a lot of sense. Today I learned.
Exactly. Statistically backing into a parking space and then pulling out forward is much safer (for you and for others around you).
Why not two charge ports? Convenience is a longer and more practical word than cost. It falls off the tongue better as well.
Looks like the port is behind the sliding door??! That's annoying!
I vote for 6 charging ports and we like buttons.
I think the reason you can remove the storage unit between the two front seats is so you can flatten down all the other seats and store really long oversized things like surfboards or pipes or wood boards or lumber and such. Or as someone else pointed out, it allows the passenger seat person to go to the back of the van in case it gets converted to a camper or if you're sleeping in the van or if you have kids in the back seats.
Also, easier cleaning
I agree. I found that the removable center piece for the rear arm rest in my jetta allows me to haul 8ft PVC pipes w/o any trouble or needing to leave the boot open. I've blown many minds when loading PVC into my car at Home Depot, then driving away as if I didn't just load up 20 pieces of full size PVC piping 😅🙌🏾💪🏾 I'd imagine VW had the same idea in mind, regarding storage and hauling, when designing that bit 🙌🏾💪🏾
For roadtripping and outdoor usage a solar roof would be a nice addition. I don't want to own a car but having more and more options that eventually end up in car-sharing programs is just great!
Just out of curiosity what is a car sharing program ?
@@sixtoseven7563 Basically a service where you can rent cars but because you're a member of the service you can just reserve it and open it via an app. If you're done you can just park and leave.
@@sixtoseven7563 in Germany you can rent cars through an app (instant as if it's an e-scooter rental app), one day group excursions with app rented cars is a thing. Though, you usually have to drive the car back to the initial city, and it costs a bit less than an Uber.
Fully agree, phisical buttons are a must! Especially on the stirring wheel.
An upgrade with retro nobs and dials would be so good and cool as...
Hoping this sets a design "standard" for EV minibuses that trickles down to the cheaper brands, same as the original
I hope so too, I'm now driving a DACIA Lodgy 7 seater which I bought second hand for 8500 euro when it was 6 years old. That's about my budget for a car because i also need to support a family. The pricing of most of the car market is insane compared to DACIA, I just want something that brings me and my family from A to B, don't need an infotainment system and a lot of expensive gadgets. Maybe the chines brands will finaly get a hold of europe's car market or maybe self driving cars wil take over in 20 years and you don't need to own one anymore, we will see.
@@AndreVanKammen I, too, drive a Logan. The 3 cylinder petrol turbo. Brilliantly economical and can be loaded like a van. Rest of the time, carries dogs, people, bikes, other gear. Cost me around £7k four years ago. Can't buy anything like it for that money, now. Most of my journeys are less than 30 miles so, if hat French conversion company... Transition One?... gets to the UK, I can foresee getting it converted to full electric.
@@gpw203 its called being practical , versatile and semi affordable.
I too hoping this design, including the japanese sliding door kei cars design (imagine the ID Buzz but shrinked into kei dimension e.g Tanto or N-Box) to trickle down into mainstream. I mean a boxy car with ample space when needed is better that a sportly design everyday dar.
why my interest in kei car with a minivan boxy design? a cheap fuel efficient car with better usable space for a single guy who constantly moves than a sedan from a larger segment. Sure the numbers are great e.g liter volume but it doesn't matter if it has a 800l volume of space when the trunk/bonnet opening can only fit a briefcase, in comparison to a 400l space boxy car when the seats are down but you can actually stuff an exact cube of 400l.
@@gpw203 even if a good design slapped you on the face, you won't understand it
way too expensive. I hopped they would actually make the car, but at this price, I'll never allow myself to buy one. it makes little sense. you can buy a number of poster cars plus a day to day Zoe, and be a happy man. I am editing after the review, that was convincing. I went on the site, configured one, not all the options, just what you might expect from a car with this price : power seats, elbow rest, matrix lights, a paint, charging cables, power doors, interior lights, and the grand total, is 73.000 euro. the depreciation on this car will be painful.
not expensive if you travel a lot / retired and would like to see the entire USA without staying at $$$ hotels/motels.
@@nicholasstarinsky3357 I can already tell you how many retirees are lining up to pay 73,000euro to sleep in a car.
@@nicholasstarinsky3357 It's price is creeping up to bigger and more luxurious conversion vans.
@@nicholasstarinsky3357 Exploring the US in an EV? Good luck with that. You will spend all your time at dirty truck stops recharging.
When was the last time you purchased a full priced, brand new car for the RRP?
Having the charge point on the rear right side would actually work perfectly for my driveway and parking point. Means I can reverse in, unload the boot and plug in the charger. Or just get out of the driver's seat and plug in whilst I walk into my house. And I can set off forward without the risks involved in reversing onto the road
and as you're pouring electrons into it, as opposed to liquid fuel, why not have charge ports on both sides?
Please don't put in on the front, I prefer to reverse in then drive out., unless you're going to have multiple charge points.
@@andrewmorgan1819 It seems unlikely it would add much cost to have dual charge ports, so its a shame no one (?) has such a thing.
@@Joe-lb8qn Porsche Taycan
Looks like you can't open the rear door with the cable plugged in though
It makes it kind of impractical to have the charge port on the opposite side of the driver's seat. Even with gas car I always prefered to have the tank on the same side, but with an EV that's even a bigger deal because if you plug it every day at home when coming back from work, that means you'll have to go around the car twice(plug & unplug), every single day.
The Removable console should have some batteries in them and a Speaker. Can have two uses. While traveling/riding, it should be a Cooller Box, keeping ones favorite beverage nice and cold. When parked up, take the console with you to the beach, picnic park, to have as a Cooler box still, and then act as a Bluetooth Speaker. Once done, place back into car, it will recharge, and then be added to the exisitng audio as additional speaker as you head on home.
On the subject of efficiency, it would be great to see that big flat roof covered in lightweight solar panels.
As has been said, the centre console can be removed so you access the rear from the front. Incredibly useful when parking in tight spaces, which are oh so common in the UK, allowing the driver to take advantage of the rear sliding door. Honestly if I had a buzz I'd never have that centre console installed.
No! Don't put them at the front. Reversing out of spaces is much more dangerous.
Put them in the middle of the rear bumper? Or on both sides?
The Audi e-Tron we had as a loaner took this approach. High speed port one one side and standard on the other. As it stands, I wouldn't be able to charge both this and our Mach-e at home without shuffling the cars about.
exactly, reversing to the spot is much more practical
@@shemmo and safer
Exactly, parking in reverse has many benefits:
- more agility with the steering wheels (front) on the street-side
- safer to drive away: you can see all the traffic
- boot is at the curb, not standing on the road to unpack is safer
Reverse parking isn't hard, in fact, I'd say it's easier to park in small spaces
Reversing into charging spaces at busy motorway services can be a pita when it’s busy, especially when they’re on the way in with super narrow lanes ( Forton, Wetherby I’m looking at you..)
The center console comes out so you can easily pass through to the back, from the front seats.
Or it can be hand free acces from outside to driving seat too for some situations or tight garage spaces or avoiding damaging other cars with your door opening in parking spaces
The vehicle can back itself into the parking spots....but you are worried about the charge port being in the back? Seems they've solved the problem already.
Well produced video! Removable console is to allow through passage to rear seats. I laughed at your criticism of the location of the charge port Jack :) You should always reverse into a parking bay so that you can drive out - so much safer. Plus...cars have a tighter turning circle in reverse than they do going forwards (go on, try it :) so easier to get into a bay in a car park in the first place. I think I'll buy one of these to replace my 110 Defender
I had 2 of the original air-cooled VW vans in the 1960-70s. Loved them despite the noisy lo-torque engines that took forever to climb a hilly street, and forever to heat up in the winter. But its charm and roominess outweighed all the quirks! Thrilled they are returning in an EV mode. If im still here, will get one again!
I’ve seen a few videos on RUclips where people have removed the old technology and converted to electric and look amazing and go very fast!
We used them for camping, but have a camping vehicle that has to be charged makes little sense in the US. Hopefully they make a hybrid that doesn't need a charge, but gets decent gas mileage. That makes more sense.
@@wadopotato33 Depends on how you do it, RV campground visitors this would work just fine.
@@Joesolo13 The places worth camping at are to remote to have charging stations close enough. If you only wanted to stay at facilities that are near urban centers then it would work. But when I go camping I head away from people. Away from people equals no place to charge. They would have been better off to have made a hybrid, IMO.
I like the shape too but its boxiness will create a lot of drag which demand a big battery and take away interior space or range. I hope this saves VW though because the ID4 is a flub
I was sold until he mentioned the rear windows don't open... that's actually insane
Same. That and the steering wheel buttons are capacitive. Ugh.
Well you don't want those horrible exhaust fumes coming in. LOL
And if it had, the driver wouldn’t have proper buttons to control it. It would be that nonsensical “rear” capacitive thing, and the kids would be dead the time your mind finally figure out how to operate.
Sorry for getting emotional… it’s just do dumb!
Agree
fisker agrees
Just to contradict Jack, NO CHARGING POINTS AT THE FRONT PLEASE. At the back like Tesla, ID Buzz, Corsa-E etc is the right place for them. The sensible place.
I see I see - well at the very least we need standardised charging location!
I only have experience with my car having it at the driver's side front, but that seems like the perfect position to me. Allows me to get out and plug in without wandering around the car. I hate what Hyundai/Kia and Nissan were doing with their first-gen cars, having the charge ports at the front grille. That's just asking for snow to get packed into it in the wintertime. I'm glad Hyundai/Kia abandoned that spot, but I wish they had stuck to the front. I also fear the rear ports just make rear-end fender benders that much more expensive to repair.
Nah, I don't want to have to back into every spot under the sun
I don't want to have to reverse off my drive onto a 40mph road with limited visibility... Rear is ideal - FOR ME!
Bjorn Nyland pointed out it is to prevent icing in snow and sleet - on the front it would ice up and be unusable
Now you have together to work on a new concept similar to Mercedes' concept EQT as a "minivan" powered fully electric in 4×4 power. This Exemplar is very important, in my opinion, for the countries that have a full nature of Montaigne roads, where constantly up and down must be driven. Similar to Switzerland, Lebanon, Japan, Korea, or India, not all countries have the same nature as Germany. You can also make it more attractive by adding a solar panel system to the top as a range extender. On that way, you will sell a lot of them around the world. In actual fact, already all car manufacturers had done a copy of the minivan design powered by oil-combustion motors.
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Why on earth does this video have so many downvotes? Humorous, useful, down to earth, mix of objectivity and opinion. A car review could hardly be better.
Maybe they can remove the powered part of the sliding doors and tailgate to drop the price. The hiding towing hook could also be swapt for a standard static hook. I reckon that drops the price by 5,000.
I wouldn’t trust that thing to tow much anyway…
The market segment is rich people who want to feel green, not average people trying to afford a great family car.
The Price point for any of the T-Series in the last 30 years was always waaaaay too high for the everyman.
Not that I agree with that Policy, but it is the reality...
In Sweden i does indeed come with unpowered doors if you wish so. Pretty sure the hook is powered or nothing though.
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The powered doors are an addon, which actually drive the price up. So for 65k € you get nonpowered doors
The ID. Buzz seems like the perfectly designed defibrillator to keep the VW Bulli cult electrically alive. I'd love to check one out.
I have a green/white on order, really liking the orange now. I have an ID3 with v3.0 software and it’s nowhere near as bad as it’s made out to be. My main gripe would be the controls on the wheel that are too easy to brush over and change tracks/channels.
I sat in a Buzz at the fully charged show and loved it. I’ve no issues with the materials used.
It’s just the perfect do anything vehicle.
@Clay Can no idea, not been given a date other than sometime in 2023. :/
@Clay Can Update: Build 6th Feb delivery mid March23
How would I mount a bike rack on that weird tow hitch? 🤔🤔
Love the review, and the ID. Buzz. This would be ideal for us, camping, mountain biking and whitewater kayaking, but oh the price. Looks like we'll either have to hold on to our 2011 Outlander, or upgrade to another large SUV 😞
The VW minibuses have always been very expensive. BUT: you won't find anything apart from luxury cars that keeps its value as good as those.
I sold my 2001 T4 Multivan last year for almost 15000€ - with 230tkm!
Love the look and the practicality. For that price, I'm not a fan of the interior quality. Not a fan of the software and the user interface. Range is decent. But, the price is frankly ridiculous. I think that VW has done its homework and that with the limited number of EVs it can produce at the moment, it will still be able to sell every ID. Buzz they make at that price.
That is the only reason that I can see for that price tag. Such a shame.
Same as Tesla. If you can’t meet the demand put the price up.
Saying that, Tesla is missing a trick by not having an MPV in the range. They have the cast underbody so come on folks.
@David Eliott : Robovan on the way though ? ;)
Removable Center Console:
As others have mentioned, useful as a passthrough to the back, also, however, very useful for extra long items like surfboards, lumber, or that latest IKEA purchase :)
Just like my 1961 VW bus in fact
Great vid as always! A point on the charge port location: a lot of businesses and industrial sites insist on reverse parking, so although the nose might be the best compromise, it wouldn’t work in all cases.
The UK highway code also recommends you should reverse into your driveway if possible so you don't have to reverse out into traffic, especially important if you live on a busy road.
Right, new campaign: put all chargers in the middle of the rear!
@@JackScarlett1 Why not both? :D Other than a second socket and a couple of meters of cabling, shouldn't be too much issue with having dual charging sockets (doesn't the Audi or the Porsche come with 2x sockets, one either side?)
@@NickFoster Interesting, I didn't know that. I don't think I've ever seen anyone reverse into their driveway on a main road. I've always thought I'd prefer to reverse in myself!
@@JackScarlett1 the og mustang gas hole location. I’m okay with this
I was wondering where Jack Scarlett disappeared from youtube. Haven’t watched Fully Charged for a while now, so didn’t know you were here. Nice to see you here my friend, your reviews are always amusing. ❤
front charging port is the worst! That’s where accidents will occur the most. so nope, unless make more charging ports, right left, front :3
Love it, but I'd never pay that much for one.
yeah, I love the classic van shape. but it's expensive.
with very bad range at this price.
That's a crazy price imo. Both from the pov of buying one, but also from building it, surely?
@@silversword4593 Yeah it has the same size battery as an Ioniq 5 and slower charging. VW cutting corners again.
@@amanasd26 if Hyundai slapped a van shell on the Ioniq 5 platform and sold it at a similar price point it'd do very well
Sadly it’s got some considerably design flaws: Very poor UX (every review of the existing iD range has destroyed it), last generation electrical architecture (no excuse for a new product to now not be running on 800v architecture), only 2 sets of ISOfix points in the second row (limiting the appeal to ‘large families), and a price point which suggests that build and materials should be a step up from those in the cabin.
@martin X Did you tell Porsche and Hyundai/Kia/Genesis? They will def want to know they have failed.
@martin X links
If Kia/Hyundai put the Ionic 5 powertrain in a van like the Staria it'd be game over. Though I suspect they won't too soon as they've invested £100m into the Arrival Van company.
800v really doesn't make any sense atm
Agreed. Massively over hyped. IONIQ 7 and Polestar 3 way better.
This is my dream car as a father of 3 who would also like to transport a couple of bikes from time to time, but it is kind of expensive
Kind of?
@@PassportToPimlico It all depends on your own income.
@@TremereTT It's VW's ID parts in a very interesting configuration but I just can't help thinking that a buyer is paying quite a few thousand for that VW badge.
@@TremereTT Income is regardless, as this is just overpriced for what it is. They need to cut costs and be more efficient.
It doesn't even have three separate seats in the back. Put a child seat in there, and the space is limited for the kids.
Why didnt VW put solar on the roof? There is quite a lot of space.
I just love it even though it hasn't the near 4000 l. capacity of my T5.I'm an expat Brit living in Denmark,so I like your test here in DK
Got to say. I don't know why they changed the face so much from the original rounded headlights. To me it just looks like a minivan with a good paint job. Really unimpressed.
A lot of those niceties are at-cost options (park assist plus, memory, fancy two-tone seats, two-tone paint, electric rear side doors, bigger infotainment screen, etc.). Even on the highest starting spec.
However, it is very compelling! This over a lifestyle SUV any day.
As long as it has a sliding door that’s all I care about with kids. I don’t need any of the other stuff but I want a sliding door on an electric car.
@@davidradtke160 It has a sliding door, don't worry
Apparently, working rear windows is also an accessory.
That price is eye watering, but that driveway memory is KEY! I would really consider a 7 seat version just for that. I won’t have to take out the van for my 80 yr old mum anymore when she want to go out.
Yea, but she'll be 83 by the time it's in your driveway so hold onto that deposit for now 😞
Underneath it's just an id3 !
Really? Seems utterly pointless to me. I guess your drive is harder to park in than mine.
3:42 Charge port at the rear makes more sense. Reversing into a space means you do not incur negative insurance claims when leaving! If you reverse from a parking space and there is a collision, you are at fault!!! Even if you are not moving at the time of impact. (Personal experience 😠) Since which, I have tried always to reverse park. The steering wheel "buttons" are a no-no for me and I would also prefer physical controls for climate. I thought touch screen control would be ok but my current car has them and it can be a pain - even when there is a passenger to assist. Fit those two minor issues and this would be my next car. I could get both the electric scooters in along with all luggage for four people. Greater range would be a plus too for longer trips to Alps etc.
I feel like the roof needs to be higher - no sun roof is a mistake.... And there should be an option for a camper top - that is what people really want. That said - it looks wonderful!!
Does that automatic rear door actually hide the charge port flap when the door is open?? Because, if that is the case, then either getting out that door while charging is going to be impossible, or opening that door is going to damage the charge port flap, the charge port itself, or the cable from the charge point. :(
Yeah, It's such a dumb oversight
Having seen it in person I can tell you:No, it does not, but there's not much space between the open flap and the open door.
@@Denkmaschine Vielen Dank and thank you. I'm glad to know it's not a design flaw. :)
all sliding side doors on ICE minivans hide the fuel port.
@@scottmcshannon6821 yes, but you don't tend to leave the fuel nozzle in the port whilst getting in and out and opening the sliding doors.
Love your reviews Jack, great combination of content, facts and human response, love your style. Please keep working with Robert on this channel.
Need the seven seater to come and be as practical as the new multivan. If it's there, I'll swap from the multivan to the buzz. That's my current plan. It's a perfect car for us, a family of 5 with some complex needs that make the space a critical requirement.
Was looking for this comment - really looking forward to the variant with 6/7 seats to replace the Touran in our household. Hopefully that will happen soon so I won’t need to shell out for the new Multivan
Agreed. Would love for this to replace my Sienna when the time comes.
Do not trade your multivan yet since that is more spacious inside than id-Buzz, you can also look at Multivan T7 PHEV hybrid instead for trading your older multivan,
but if you still want iD-Buzz just wait a bit longer for better versions to spun out (this is my opinion anyway.. ) Safe trips.. ;0)
Channeling the spirit of the original VW transporter, even down to the representing vents behind the rear windows that would feed air to the flat four engine in the original. So yes, I have seen a vehicle that is as happy looking, it was the 1970's Transporter.
As the current owner of a VW Touran, I see this (or version 2) as my next car. The Touran is for me, the compact Swiss army knife of vehicles, so the ID. Buzz is the electric and more versatile iteration. Perhaps the electric lovechild of a Touran and a Sharan!😄
All very attractive, but the price is a killer. (Oh, and all charge ports should be at the back. Charge ports at the front are a pain and mean you have to drive forwards into parking spaces which is never a good idea.)
Parking backwards means your boot/trunk is hidden from the world and thieves can have their hidden way with your rear end
Yes! SUVs are pointless, I’d rather have the “tall profile” with a high ceiling, without the pretend off-road capability that you’ll never ever actually even try to use.
Former ‘67 Microbus owner!
Speak for yourself. I actually like to go places that are only reachable via unpaved roads or hardly any roads at all. I am a proponent of electric cars and an electric SUV with adequate range is my dream.
@@luckystriker7489 I think you are a minority of SUV buyers honestly.
@@luckystriker7489 probably 95% of so-called SUVs on the market are incapable to any serious off road driving and 98% never see anything worse than driving in snow or *maybe* a dirt road.
I have a Citroen Grand Picasso. Lots of room and possible 7 seats. I got in the Brother in law's SUV. I was amazed at how small it was. It was like an inverse Tardis. Large on the outside and small on the inside. It did not make sense to me.
@@craigfoulkes nice. I just bought a second hand Honda Freed 7 seater. Even shorter than your Picasso.
Great review, Absolutely astonished so called switches do not light up! How on earth are we meant to drive the thing at night and at that price point, also why no opening rear windows?
some cars use narrow beam lighting from above for focused points on console or dash; has he actually driven it at night?
6m48s: why to remove the console, you ask? To clean the mess and crumbs that accumulate underneath it and around it, and to pick up any loose items that fell there, of course.
Can it fit a sheet of drywall inside with the seats down? 1220mm x 2440mm?
Minivans need to come back strong. Even ICE ones you see on the road now would be my first choice for a family car. As was mentioned in the video, the space efficiency is unmatched and there's surprise and delight wherever you look in the cabin. Secret storage and lots of it, the middle row of seats can slide left, right, forward, back and they tend to be captains chairs, so they beat the S-Class for perceived luxury. I honestly don't see why they fell out of fashion recently. I really hope the ID Buzz makes the minivan cool again and the public outside the car lovers community, get a sense of the last word in practicality.
well the S-class is a status symbol, the better luxury car is the EQV /V-class. but those VIP Vans are even more pricy than a S-class.
I had all the standard knee-jerk oppositions to minivans until our family rented one on vacation. Love the one we ended up buying.
I understand that in the USA people would assume you were a Soccer Mom. In the U.K. people would ask you what the surfing was like.
Charge port is in the perfect spot.
Reverse into a parking/charging pay and drive out so as not to reverse into kids or trrollies.
Can easily see oncoming traffic when leaving the bay its alot easier than having to put the entire 4m of van into the road to see it. This applies for garages aswell. Plus
It's alot easier to reverse in and drive out, it really is.
The Germans and Elon know these simple common sense driving habits.
Safety first!!!!
Love the van and FG!
Larger vehicles/restricted rear visibility are generally supposed to back in. Guess that got lost along the way as everything turned into oversized trucks and SUV's
Please do not EVER put charge points on the front. Back in, drive out.
@@kaciewolverton2692 Really it's best practice for all vehicles, but yea it goes double for them
It would be amazing if the driver and passenger seats revolved to face into the rear for when you stop and camp.
VW knows nobody wants to visually see their kids.
Plug in point is in the perfect place, for those of us who can reverse into parking spaces, or onto their driveway so your rear doors are securely blocked against your wall or fence, so tools are safe in the back of the van. Still cant understand why no European/UK ev manufacturer hasn't gone with the Neo (Chinese) idea of having automated drive through battery swapping stations around the country. 3 minutes in and out with a fresh, fully charged battery.
Sitting posture is just like a car. Part of the fun and comfort of the bus was its upright posture and steering wheel angle.
I can see a lot of these replacing big SUVs on the weekly trek from Middle England back to Kensington & Chelsea..
I'd like to see a couple of 'fold-down' jump seats hanging off the wall in the boot. Many in North America, certainly in larger Canadian cities, must live far from epicentres due to the higher cost of living, so, to transport familly/friends and whomever, sometimes requires more than the allotted 5 seats.
How do sideways seats far in crash tests? I like the idea too, but I wonder if they are possible to actually get placed in a production car, as opposed to adding them afterward, where there's less regulation.
@@tomp4944 Simple, you just make sure to place less-valuable members of the group in the jump seats.
Good job ID Buzz on that parking 👏 I'm excited to see these rolling around once they come to the US.
the us version is supposed to be bigger right? even though I don't know why
@@jm100368 it is supposed to be yeah. Only the long wheel base version coming to us apparently.
@@jm100368 Because an ID4 looks ridiculously big on European roads. The USA is yet to get the ID3 which is far more popular than the ID4 here.
Car companies and dealerships better get their pricing in order, borrowing rates are going up more and more and they will no longer be able to command these ridiculous prices for everyday vehicles.
I cannot get over how good your hair is looking in this video. In previous videos it was just buzzed off and scruffy, but in this one you suddenly have stunning movie star hair.
... it is amazing ... it's also twice the price it should be
Couldn't agree more.
Maybe not twice but it's 20K overpriced
@@freddybell8328 I realise that compared to other large EVs it's not twice ... but EVs in general are still far too overpriced ... so it's twice what just *any* decent little van should be.
Do u know what a minivan goes for
It's not amazing it gets terrible range and doesn't even look like the vintage van at all.
£56k for the bottom of the range van - you must me joking. MG4 £32k for top of the range.
apples and roundabouts
but yeah, it's really expensive
It's like VW is saying, "hey VW fans! We see you, and go F yourself!" lol
£32k for the MG4 you must be joking, you can buy an e scooter for £500
Pfff I could get a bicycle for 150 💷
mg4 is a small-medium hatch. youd struggle to get 5 people into it
Really underwhelmed with this one. I loved the prototype's design but this feels uninspired in comparison. Factor in the price and this is clearly a no go for me.
Really want this to be my next car to replace my Mercedes EQC which I’ve loved for 3 years but want a bigger boot for dogs and camping gear - loving the design and the flaws don’t seem so bad to me with the space, design and finish more than compensating for them imo for my needs
Looks fab and I hope VW sell lots as they will be a joy to see on the road. But as a follower of the original MicroBus concept, for me, the ID Buzz comes 20 years too late and having just configured one out of curiosity, I can think of dozens of vehicles I'd rather buy for £57k.
I'm in love with this kind of cars, for the same reason I have an Espace (Renault). But the price is rediculous! I get it, we were so in love with the T1, somehow it can ride the coat tails of its older sibling, but for me, this is a bit of treason. All these trendy lifestyle vehicles are sold at a price point far beyond most of our means, while the origin of this van was exactly the opposite! Out of spite, frustration, or whatever you want to call it, I would refuse to spend that kind of cash and go for both an Aptera and a conversion; My Renault Espace does all what Buzz does and more, with a massive glass roof to boot. Same dimensions, sort of, same roomy and glassy cocoon (a bit of an oxymoron if you ask me, but I get your point). Buy the Renault second hand, go to a conversion shop and have the engine swapped for tesla bits and bops and you are cheaper and better off! And if that is too much, go for the real McKoy which is the *_XBus_* IMO. Now that is the real new T1! Both in versatility as well as price point.
I'll bet Fluffy wants one...
XBus, now there's an interesting concept, at least until I read that it does 100km/h at max and has No airbags, what the hell.
Driving an Espace and complaining about the price 😂
@@ramdynebix I wish! ;-) it's a golden oldie from '04. New ones are more glorified estates mate ;-)
High base prices and then start adding the options - £70k is easy to reach ! I know because I just configured the one I would want. I love it but given the quality of the interior, it's just way too expensive. Hopefully Kia will copy it for £20k less
I LOVE the ID minivan! Jack you're the BEST presenter! Always show us your quirky moments & mistakes, it makes you more popular 😃
Does it have 3rd row seats?
It takes all sorts
@@dustinderolph3542 Long wheelbase will
Charging points should be at the rear, you should park rear in first for full visibility and easy exit, 😊
If you're wondering what to compare this with it's a Citroen Berlingo. Berlingo's have been the car of choice for discerning outdoor types for the last decade as they have heaps of space for the size and a 6ft person can sleep in the back. The design of this WV (including the pointless removable centre storage bit) is clearly based on the Berlingo. The only problem with the electric berlingo is the range..
Removable centre console?
The best part of my old Kombi, I thought, was that I could jump from the front straight through the centre to the back without having to get out.
Slightly acrobatic and contortionist I know, but I did it with aplomb.
This makes so much sense. And nice use of aplomb.
I had the front bench seat. Was inconvenient for getting to the back, but someone could sleep on it when camping.
Safety as a woman, and doggo 🐕 access bonus. Plus ➕ ➕
The pricing is INSANE. I fear to know what it will cost here in Canada ... *IF* they bring it over.
the price of a beer in canada is enough to run me off
it is coming to canada and seen 75k thrown around, but anything over 65k will be a hard sell in canada.
With the temperatures in Canada in the winter, will it do about 20 miles range ?
Yeah the pricing is higher than I expected and might mean passing on this despite a lot of excitement to get one. :/ I'm in the US though.
@@stevezodiac491 really depends if it has a heat pump. if it doesn't have a heat pump, you probably lose 30% range.
Testing an automated parking system next to a body of water exhibits sheer courage. Nice job.
Does the sliding back door block the charging port when open? How's the view to front/side with those massive double posts? I know it creates a big blind spot in the Prius - really easy to miss pedestrians at intersections. And I notice the back seats don't have an option to just fold down the middle seat, that's a miss for sliding in surfboards/skis down the middle when four people are in the car.
To charge it's in the back when you're towing, there's something in the back. HOw would you approach the charging station.
Very nice ! Especially in a few years they'll still be used and in a good shape so we can fetch them at half the price !
Thanks Jack for a fair and decent video. Thumbs up for the video.
£57k!!!!!!!!!!! That is a lot of money and a lot of plastic. When/if the Canoo is built, it is expected to be half this price!!!!! Thumbs down for the silly VW price.
EVs usually end up being more expensive than initial predictions. Plus with a VW product you will have better dealer backup when someone smashes your wing mirror off or similar.
23 kwh / 100km is a no go for me. After 3 years with a car that is doing 17 kwh/100km; I know that this is the most important thing in an EV.
It depends how much stuff you can and need to put inside.
@@tanguydelooz2881 what does that have to do with what he said? For a road trip car, it has abysmal range and poor charging speed.
@@HelloMyFriend_ Because imho you can't compare a car with a van.
A van is heavier and less aerodynamic. On the other hand it offers loads of space.
It depends on your needs.
For the energy consumption, you'd better compare an EV van with another EV van.
@@tanguydelooz2881 loads of space? Three people at the back would not sit comfortably. Sure, it has lots of luggage room. Great for the luggage I guess 🙂
I was at your recent FCL in San Diego and I had the opportunity to discuss the ID Buzz with Ben Sullins. You may know that he is rolling out a piece of software called EV Decide. It's an app that helps you decide which EV you should buy based on how you answer questions on a set of pre-determined parameters. It's an excellent idea, but it falls down on this car. As I told him - I wouldn't care if the ID Buzz scored a 0 on every metric - it's going to be my next car no matter what. And that's because of exactly what you described. Doug DeMuro calls it the Cool Factor and Ben's app doesn't have that (because it's too subjective, and I get that). But this car just oozes Cool Factor and I'm gonna buy it for that reason alone. Brilliant review Jack!
I read an SUV reviewer's lament years ago - even though he'd suggest a car he thought suited a person's needs - invariably they'd reply " I can see myself in XYZ". So he suggested printing a passport sized photo and he had photos of all the cars with a blank oval in the driver's window. Then you could "see" which car you looked coolest in! :-)
The IDBuzz weighs 1000 lbs more than a Ford F150, with half the utility of the F150 in doing actual 'work' (i.e. building things and not just carrying hipsters around town). How is that better for the environment?!
Well done, a very honest and straight forward review of an iconic model reborn. I have screamed at your rants about large impractical SUVs (I hate them too) but I really love how you switched that part of your brain off to review the ID Buzz. I'd have one in a heartbeat, no question.
What I hate is traditional providers turning off the comfort/luxury factor in a race to the bottom on margins. Is there really an enormous margin in dialling everything back to the feel of a milk crate in your interior v a soft touch? Or even making your infotainment system so unnavigable during the night hours or requiring four to five clicks just to control the interior temperature? I think the Euro and ANCAP vehicle safety ratings need to be inclusive of the amount of distraction given by a so called infotainment that are merely poorly developed rubbish, don't turn away VW, you are possibly the worst in this area.
Oh... It really seems like VW have discovered the Renault Espace IV and have electrified it!
😄
Nice vídeo, as usual.
I miss the Renault Espace
Exactly ! But they forgot to copy the width inside the boot. And removable rear seats for first series. What a van + car it was.
More like it’s just the next iteration of the VW sharan, the buzz even has the same cup holders (in the sharan they were for row 2) . The rear layout is identical to the 1st edition of the 7n sharan
If they could only lower their prices it would be a great option.
Yes they shall have a mini fridge available between the front seats . With USB and storage
11:57 no Glass roof? :/
At least there are trays on the back of the front seats :) They should rotate backwards, from top to down in order to not hit the knees, like the old Citroen Xsara Picasso had.
Aside from the fixed rear windows, I LOVE it. However, at that price, I'd recommend cross-shopping a model Y. You might pay a little more, but it's a hell of a car. If VW could price these under 40K, they'd sell millions of them.
i would never buy a Tesla
@@piero17sb why?
@@damnmister Terrible design, terrible quality, no soul, overpriced, no sound, at the mercy of software updates, no upgradability or aftermarket support, the list goes on...
The perfect electric family vehicle, for families that can just about afford electric in 2022.
You think 60k is a family car.
@@pstanyer1 meanwhile, you don't think I was being sarcastic.
I want to see actual kids and seats being hauled in and out of a car before it’s declared “perfect". Especially at that price point. For daily city driving with 2 small people, plus occasional spares, I'd rather see something like the old Mazda 5. If you only have two car seats and never have spares, I guess you could get this? But why?
I may add this, for all you wet wipes on here..
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Very nice review, and it's reassured me that ordering one was a smart move! No clue when we'll get it, though. Ours will be Two-tone, White over Bay leaf green (greenish turquoisey color) with white and jade green interior. It's gonna be superb, I'm sure of it. Really axious to get it now, after watching this :P
Can you use the side door if the charge port is in use? Looks like not (not sure if you'd want to but there you go). I think I would very much like one of these though.
I know I'm old but does anyone else get annoyed by the blurry zoom trend? Trying to show the viewer something but don't focus on it for most of the shot.
Add Rear ventialed captain seats
And it's a perfect car!
a nice big solar pannel on the roof would be perfect
This sounded really neat, then out the corner of my eye I see top speed 90mph and rear-wheel drive? This won't be killing SUVs anytime soon like that.
Why would you ever need to go over 90 mph?
@@kenk8215 Well it's a German car, so the Autobahn seems like an obvious answer. Beyond that, regardless of legality over 90 is not an uncommon passing speed on American highways with limits of 75-80mph.
@@kenk8215 maybe i just wanna go fast in a car I've spent so much on...
This would be the perfect car for having some solar panels built into the roof.
I might have missed it, but does it have V2L?
I will consider one of these if the price is right. In America they are making the electric and hybrid SUVs that are coming out with less storage and are more of a crossover. They will not fit my two large dogs in the back without putting down the back seats. My regular gas Toyota Rav4 is not that big to begin with, but they are making all the new ones smaller. The whole point in a SUV is the storage.
What happens when the battery needs changing in 5 years time? Spend 20 big ones to replace it?