The VW ID. Buzz Is The Antidote To POINTLESS SUVs
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- Jack heads to Denmark to test the production version of VW's long-awaited electric Bulli: the ID. Buzz. To the untrained eye, it may just look like a funky van but the Buzz is much more than that: it's the most versatile EV you can buy right now and, more importantly, the cure for the sea of bloated, poorly packaged SUV that clog up our streets. Check out the video to find out why!
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00:00 The cure!
1:28 A big happy face
3:49 Das boot
4:43 A very orange interior
7:11 Out on the road
11:52 Back seat Jack test
13:29 A FREAKY feature
16:42 The less good stuff...
17:51 The price...
20:10 Final thoughts?
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Removable console is because removing it lets you get in the front seat from the back without exiting, which is nice if your tiny van is a tiny camper.
And presumably allows the front seat to pivot when we get to a campervan configuration
THANK YOU
Adding more weight to it? So that's the range down to 150 then
@@JackScarlett1 Also if you have kids in the back, it allows your passenger or partner to have easier access to the little ones.
Helps to get a nice long plank of wood in too I expect
This is off topic for sure… but man, this video just looks incredible. The shots, the cuts, the grading. Wow.
boatyard to boot !!!
Yeah these guys have it down, really worth putting it in 4k for once
Really appreciate this, worked very hard shooting this in a few hours
Yes!
The combo of the top host and video production really makes this a joy to watch. Better than anything on tv.
I like that he got dressed up in his finest sweatpants.
I loved it
For roadtripping and outdoor usage a solar roof would be a nice addition. I don't want to own a car but having more and more options that eventually end up in car-sharing programs is just great!
Just out of curiosity what is a car sharing program ?
@@sixtoseven7563 Basically a service where you can rent cars but because you're a member of the service you can just reserve it and open it via an app. If you're done you can just park and leave.
The rear windows not opening at all is a massive own goal by VW in my opinion.
It does seem a very odd choice - no vents back there either
Where's thev damn HUD also.
Touch controls on the steering wheel too. No one asked for that
This is why I will buy big annoying suv
own goal?
Hoping this sets a design "standard" for EV minibuses that trickles down to the cheaper brands, same as the original
I hope so too, I'm now driving a DACIA Lodgy 7 seater which I bought second hand for 8500 euro when it was 6 years old. That's about my budget for a car because i also need to support a family. The pricing of most of the car market is insane compared to DACIA, I just want something that brings me and my family from A to B, don't need an infotainment system and a lot of expensive gadgets. Maybe the chines brands will finaly get a hold of europe's car market or maybe self driving cars wil take over in 20 years and you don't need to own one anymore, we will see.
@@AndreVanKammen I, too, drive a Logan. The 3 cylinder petrol turbo. Brilliantly economical and can be loaded like a van. Rest of the time, carries dogs, people, bikes, other gear. Cost me around £7k four years ago. Can't buy anything like it for that money, now. Most of my journeys are less than 30 miles so, if hat French conversion company... Transition One?... gets to the UK, I can foresee getting it converted to full electric.
@@gpw203 its called being practical , versatile and semi affordable.
I too hoping this design, including the japanese sliding door kei cars design (imagine the ID Buzz but shrinked into kei dimension e.g Tanto or N-Box) to trickle down into mainstream. I mean a boxy car with ample space when needed is better that a sportly design everyday dar.
why my interest in kei car with a minivan boxy design? a cheap fuel efficient car with better usable space for a single guy who constantly moves than a sedan from a larger segment. Sure the numbers are great e.g liter volume but it doesn't matter if it has a 800l volume of space when the trunk/bonnet opening can only fit a briefcase, in comparison to a 400l space boxy car when the seats are down but you can actually stuff an exact cube of 400l.
@@gpw203 even if a good design slapped you on the face, you won't understand it
Great vid. I must say I love the useful information graphics popping up at the bottom of the screen. And thanks for including wh/km as well ❤
Great episode; you guys have an awesome drone pilot. Well done!
This seems to have all the things I like about my Renault Grand Scénic. Then again, I paid £500 for that, so I think this one is a bit out of my price range.
Renault should bring those back, swiffle seats, panorama window 👍
😁😁👍👍
And your Renault has wayy better range...
Like the Mazda 5 in configuration
It's made for Geeks who have money to waste on cars.
It's a VW Sharan with flashy bodywork - no longer a real VW van.
Like you sir, I paid pennies for my Renault Espace petrol which runs without any modifications on 100% ethanol.
I laugh at all these people who think that lugging the kitchen sink and a foldable double bed behind the front seats for thousands of Euros worth is cool !!!??
Why not spend that money on B&B ? You get a GOOD bed a GOOD breakfast and no need to drive a smelly bed and kitchen around behind you.
I think the reason you can remove the storage unit between the two front seats is so you can flatten down all the other seats and store really long oversized things like surfboards or pipes or wood boards or lumber and such. Or as someone else pointed out, it allows the passenger seat person to go to the back of the van in case it gets converted to a camper or if you're sleeping in the van or if you have kids in the back seats.
Also, easier cleaning
I agree. I found that the removable center piece for the rear arm rest in my jetta allows me to haul 8ft PVC pipes w/o any trouble or needing to leave the boot open. I've blown many minds when loading PVC into my car at Home Depot, then driving away as if I didn't just load up 20 pieces of full size PVC piping 😅🙌🏾💪🏾 I'd imagine VW had the same idea in mind, regarding storage and hauling, when designing that bit 🙌🏾💪🏾
Fully agree, phisical buttons are a must! Especially on the stirring wheel.
On the subject of efficiency, it would be great to see that big flat roof covered in lightweight solar panels.
Just to contradict Jack, NO CHARGING POINTS AT THE FRONT PLEASE. At the back like Tesla, ID Buzz, Corsa-E etc is the right place for them. The sensible place.
I see I see - well at the very least we need standardised charging location!
I only have experience with my car having it at the driver's side front, but that seems like the perfect position to me. Allows me to get out and plug in without wandering around the car. I hate what Hyundai/Kia and Nissan were doing with their first-gen cars, having the charge ports at the front grille. That's just asking for snow to get packed into it in the wintertime. I'm glad Hyundai/Kia abandoned that spot, but I wish they had stuck to the front. I also fear the rear ports just make rear-end fender benders that much more expensive to repair.
Nah, I don't want to have to back into every spot under the sun
I don't want to have to reverse off my drive onto a 40mph road with limited visibility... Rear is ideal - FOR ME!
Bjorn Nyland pointed out it is to prevent icing in snow and sleet - on the front it would ice up and be unusable
3:40 I am a reverse-parker. I always reverse into parking lots, because it makes it much easier to get in. No rear getting close to the neighboring car. And it makes it even more easy to get out later - no long blind reverse out of tight spaces. For me, a badge covered charger is the worst possible placement.
I agree totally and would go as far to say, “It should be a motoring offence to back out of a parking space” especially onto an A or B road
As a cyclist as well as being a motorist it is hugely dangerous
The bottom line is that if you are capable of backing out, you are capable of backing in
@@mikesl1573 I can understand that parking lots bordering a wall like underground garages sometimes ask for forward parking, as the exhaust would otherwise blow directly at the wall.
@@SiqueScarface If you have a chargeport in the rear, you might in many (but not all ) cases have no exhaust pipe at all. So placing the Charge port in the rear is the #1 place for people with your thinking...
Why am I schooling you here about YOU beeing right?
@@TremereTT I know, I just wanted to elaborate and talk about situations when forward parking makes sense. Loading the trunk is also easier with forward parking.
@@SiqueScarface Yea That's why I allway Park forward when shopping, but big parking places are a special traffic zone anyway, at least in Germany you have no right of way on parking places, if there could be a measure you failed to do to prevent an accident and you didn't do it, your will always be partially at fault. So you are basically forced, to help the idiots to not crash into you.
Well produced video! Removable console is to allow through passage to rear seats. I laughed at your criticism of the location of the charge port Jack :) You should always reverse into a parking bay so that you can drive out - so much safer. Plus...cars have a tighter turning circle in reverse than they do going forwards (go on, try it :) so easier to get into a bay in a car park in the first place. I think I'll buy one of these to replace my 110 Defender
I can't wait to see ID. Buzz on the road. I hope I can buy this beautiful and practical car someday. Thank you for good video~
Love it, but I'd never pay that much for one.
yeah, I love the classic van shape. but it's expensive.
with very bad range at this price.
That's a crazy price imo. Both from the pov of buying one, but also from building it, surely?
@@silversword4593 Yeah it has the same size battery as an Ioniq 5 and slower charging. VW cutting corners again.
@@amanasd26 if Hyundai slapped a van shell on the Ioniq 5 platform and sold it at a similar price point it'd do very well
It's a rear charging connection because it's safer in a parking area, to reverse in & then your able to see more when you exit the space !
Absolutely crazy price, what are they thinking ?
That does make a lot of sense. Today I learned.
Exactly. Statistically backing into a parking space and then pulling out forward is much safer (for you and for others around you).
Why not two charge ports? Convenience is a longer and more practical word than cost. It falls off the tongue better as well.
Looks like the port is behind the sliding door??! That's annoying!
I vote for 6 charging ports and we like buttons.
I was wondering where Jack Scarlett disappeared from youtube. Haven’t watched Fully Charged for a while now, so didn’t know you were here. Nice to see you here my friend, your reviews are always amusing. ❤
As the current owner of a VW Touran, I see this (or version 2) as my next car. The Touran is for me, the compact Swiss army knife of vehicles, so the ID. Buzz is the electric and more versatile iteration. Perhaps the electric lovechild of a Touran and a Sharan!😄
I was sold until he mentioned the rear windows don't open... that's actually insane
Same. That and the steering wheel buttons are capacitive. Ugh.
Well you don't want those horrible exhaust fumes coming in. LOL
And if it had, the driver wouldn’t have proper buttons to control it. It would be that nonsensical “rear” capacitive thing, and the kids would be dead the time your mind finally figure out how to operate.
Sorry for getting emotional… it’s just do dumb!
Agree
fisker agrees
... it is amazing ... it's also twice the price it should be
Couldn't agree more.
Maybe not twice but it's 20K overpriced
@@freddybell8328 I realise that compared to other large EVs it's not twice ... but EVs in general are still far too overpriced ... so it's twice what just *any* decent little van should be.
Do u know what a minivan goes for
It's not amazing it gets terrible range and doesn't even look like the vintage van at all.
Love the review, and the ID. Buzz. This would be ideal for us, camping, mountain biking and whitewater kayaking, but oh the price. Looks like we'll either have to hold on to our 2011 Outlander, or upgrade to another large SUV 😞
The VW minibuses have always been very expensive. BUT: you won't find anything apart from luxury cars that keeps its value as good as those.
I sold my 2001 T4 Multivan last year for almost 15000€ - with 230tkm!
I really like how you review cars - keep up the great videos!
Love the look and the practicality. For that price, I'm not a fan of the interior quality. Not a fan of the software and the user interface. Range is decent. But, the price is frankly ridiculous. I think that VW has done its homework and that with the limited number of EVs it can produce at the moment, it will still be able to sell every ID. Buzz they make at that price.
That is the only reason that I can see for that price tag. Such a shame.
Same as Tesla. If you can’t meet the demand put the price up.
Saying that, Tesla is missing a trick by not having an MPV in the range. They have the cast underbody so come on folks.
@David Eliott : Robovan on the way though ? ;)
Having the charge point on the rear right side would actually work perfectly for my driveway and parking point. Means I can reverse in, unload the boot and plug in the charger. Or just get out of the driver's seat and plug in whilst I walk into my house. And I can set off forward without the risks involved in reversing onto the road
and as you're pouring electrons into it, as opposed to liquid fuel, why not have charge ports on both sides?
Please don't put in on the front, I prefer to reverse in then drive out., unless you're going to have multiple charge points.
@@andrewmorgan1819 It seems unlikely it would add much cost to have dual charge ports, so its a shame no one (?) has such a thing.
@@Joe-lb8qn Porsche Taycan
Looks like you can't open the rear door with the cable plugged in though
It makes it kind of impractical to have the charge port on the opposite side of the driver's seat. Even with gas car I always prefered to have the tank on the same side, but with an EV that's even a bigger deal because if you plug it every day at home when coming back from work, that means you'll have to go around the car twice(plug & unplug), every single day.
The Removable console should have some batteries in them and a Speaker. Can have two uses. While traveling/riding, it should be a Cooller Box, keeping ones favorite beverage nice and cold. When parked up, take the console with you to the beach, picnic park, to have as a Cooler box still, and then act as a Bluetooth Speaker. Once done, place back into car, it will recharge, and then be added to the exisitng audio as additional speaker as you head on home.
I cannot get over how good your hair is looking in this video. In previous videos it was just buzzed off and scruffy, but in this one you suddenly have stunning movie star hair.
Got to say. I don't know why they changed the face so much from the original rounded headlights. To me it just looks like a minivan with a good paint job. Really unimpressed.
Love your reviews Jack, great combination of content, facts and human response, love your style. Please keep working with Robert on this channel.
Channeling the spirit of the original VW transporter, even down to the representing vents behind the rear windows that would feed air to the flat four engine in the original. So yes, I have seen a vehicle that is as happy looking, it was the 1970's Transporter.
I was having a bad day so I came back to watch this video again. Feeling better now. 🙃
As has been said, the centre console can be removed so you access the rear from the front. Incredibly useful when parking in tight spaces, which are oh so common in the UK, allowing the driver to take advantage of the rear sliding door. Honestly if I had a buzz I'd never have that centre console installed.
I had 2 of the original air-cooled VW vans in the 1960-70s. Loved them despite the noisy lo-torque engines that took forever to climb a hilly street, and forever to heat up in the winter. But its charm and roominess outweighed all the quirks! Thrilled they are returning in an EV mode. If im still here, will get one again!
I’ve seen a few videos on RUclips where people have removed the old technology and converted to electric and look amazing and go very fast!
We used them for camping, but have a camping vehicle that has to be charged makes little sense in the US. Hopefully they make a hybrid that doesn't need a charge, but gets decent gas mileage. That makes more sense.
@@wadopotato33 Depends on how you do it, RV campground visitors this would work just fine.
@@Joesolo13 The places worth camping at are to remote to have charging stations close enough. If you only wanted to stay at facilities that are near urban centers then it would work. But when I go camping I head away from people. Away from people equals no place to charge. They would have been better off to have made a hybrid, IMO.
I like the shape too but its boxiness will create a lot of drag which demand a big battery and take away interior space or range. I hope this saves VW though because the ID4 is a flub
23 kwh / 100km is a no go for me. After 3 years with a car that is doing 17 kwh/100km; I know that this is the most important thing in an EV.
It depends how much stuff you can and need to put inside.
@@tanguydelooz2881 what does that have to do with what he said? For a road trip car, it has abysmal range and poor charging speed.
@@HelloMyFriend_ Because imho you can't compare a car with a van.
A van is heavier and less aerodynamic. On the other hand it offers loads of space.
It depends on your needs.
For the energy consumption, you'd better compare an EV van with another EV van.
@@tanguydelooz2881 loads of space? Three people at the back would not sit comfortably. Sure, it has lots of luggage room. Great for the luggage I guess 🙂
I was at your recent FCL in San Diego and I had the opportunity to discuss the ID Buzz with Ben Sullins. You may know that he is rolling out a piece of software called EV Decide. It's an app that helps you decide which EV you should buy based on how you answer questions on a set of pre-determined parameters. It's an excellent idea, but it falls down on this car. As I told him - I wouldn't care if the ID Buzz scored a 0 on every metric - it's going to be my next car no matter what. And that's because of exactly what you described. Doug DeMuro calls it the Cool Factor and Ben's app doesn't have that (because it's too subjective, and I get that). But this car just oozes Cool Factor and I'm gonna buy it for that reason alone. Brilliant review Jack!
The ID. Buzz seems like the perfectly designed defibrillator to keep the VW Bulli cult electrically alive. I'd love to check one out.
Another great episode from fully charged, hope the team have a great time in the US live show, please shoot lots of video for us humble folk.🙂
Testing an automated parking system next to a body of water exhibits sheer courage. Nice job.
I just love it even though it hasn't the near 4000 l. capacity of my T5.I'm an expat Brit living in Denmark,so I like your test here in DK
No! Don't put them at the front. Reversing out of spaces is much more dangerous.
Put them in the middle of the rear bumper? Or on both sides?
The Audi e-Tron we had as a loaner took this approach. High speed port one one side and standard on the other. As it stands, I wouldn't be able to charge both this and our Mach-e at home without shuffling the cars about.
exactly, reversing to the spot is much more practical
@@shemmo and safer
Exactly, parking in reverse has many benefits:
- more agility with the steering wheels (front) on the street-side
- safer to drive away: you can see all the traffic
- boot is at the curb, not standing on the road to unpack is safer
Reverse parking isn't hard, in fact, I'd say it's easier to park in small spaces
Reversing into charging spaces at busy motorway services can be a pita when it’s busy, especially when they’re on the way in with super narrow lanes ( Forton, Wetherby I’m looking at you..)
The center console comes out so you can easily pass through to the back, from the front seats.
Or it can be hand free acces from outside to driving seat too for some situations or tight garage spaces or avoiding damaging other cars with your door opening in parking spaces
Really want this to be my next car to replace my Mercedes EQC which I’ve loved for 3 years but want a bigger boot for dogs and camping gear - loving the design and the flaws don’t seem so bad to me with the space, design and finish more than compensating for them imo for my needs
Thanks for the intro to the ID Buzz van. 👍🏼
way too expensive. I hopped they would actually make the car, but at this price, I'll never allow myself to buy one. it makes little sense. you can buy a number of poster cars plus a day to day Zoe, and be a happy man. I am editing after the review, that was convincing. I went on the site, configured one, not all the options, just what you might expect from a car with this price : power seats, elbow rest, matrix lights, a paint, charging cables, power doors, interior lights, and the grand total, is 73.000 euro. the depreciation on this car will be painful.
not expensive if you travel a lot / retired and would like to see the entire USA without staying at $$$ hotels/motels.
@@nicholasstarinsky3357 I can already tell you how many retirees are lining up to pay 73,000euro to sleep in a car.
@@nicholasstarinsky3357 It's price is creeping up to bigger and more luxurious conversion vans.
@@nicholasstarinsky3357 Exploring the US in an EV? Good luck with that. You will spend all your time at dirty truck stops recharging.
When was the last time you purchased a full priced, brand new car for the RRP?
Sadly it’s got some considerably design flaws: Very poor UX (every review of the existing iD range has destroyed it), last generation electrical architecture (no excuse for a new product to now not be running on 800v architecture), only 2 sets of ISOfix points in the second row (limiting the appeal to ‘large families), and a price point which suggests that build and materials should be a step up from those in the cabin.
@martin X Did you tell Porsche and Hyundai/Kia/Genesis? They will def want to know they have failed.
@martin X links
If Kia/Hyundai put the Ionic 5 powertrain in a van like the Staria it'd be game over. Though I suspect they won't too soon as they've invested £100m into the Arrival Van company.
800v really doesn't make any sense atm
Agreed. Massively over hyped. IONIQ 7 and Polestar 3 way better.
I LOVE the ID minivan! Jack you're the BEST presenter! Always show us your quirky moments & mistakes, it makes you more popular 😃
Does it have 3rd row seats?
It takes all sorts
@@dustinderolph3542 Long wheelbase will
"Every last cubic centimeter of space for its wheelbase" is what Plymouth claimed and aimed to accomplish when it invented the minivan. I would argue that idea had to have come from VW's original bus. Either way, it's pretty smart work.
Yes! SUVs are pointless, I’d rather have the “tall profile” with a high ceiling, without the pretend off-road capability that you’ll never ever actually even try to use.
Former ‘67 Microbus owner!
Speak for yourself. I actually like to go places that are only reachable via unpaved roads or hardly any roads at all. I am a proponent of electric cars and an electric SUV with adequate range is my dream.
@@luckystriker7489 I think you are a minority of SUV buyers honestly.
@@luckystriker7489 probably 95% of so-called SUVs on the market are incapable to any serious off road driving and 98% never see anything worse than driving in snow or *maybe* a dirt road.
I have a Citroen Grand Picasso. Lots of room and possible 7 seats. I got in the Brother in law's SUV. I was amazed at how small it was. It was like an inverse Tardis. Large on the outside and small on the inside. It did not make sense to me.
@@craigfoulkes nice. I just bought a second hand Honda Freed 7 seater. Even shorter than your Picasso.
Great vid as always! A point on the charge port location: a lot of businesses and industrial sites insist on reverse parking, so although the nose might be the best compromise, it wouldn’t work in all cases.
The UK highway code also recommends you should reverse into your driveway if possible so you don't have to reverse out into traffic, especially important if you live on a busy road.
Right, new campaign: put all chargers in the middle of the rear!
@@JackScarlett1 Why not both? :D Other than a second socket and a couple of meters of cabling, shouldn't be too much issue with having dual charging sockets (doesn't the Audi or the Porsche come with 2x sockets, one either side?)
@@NickFoster Interesting, I didn't know that. I don't think I've ever seen anyone reverse into their driveway on a main road. I've always thought I'd prefer to reverse in myself!
@@JackScarlett1 the og mustang gas hole location. I’m okay with this
Great video on the ID buzz. VW should kept 2 version of this vehicle the short and the long version for the US . Give us more options . Hopefully the range be 400 miles .
Why on earth does this video have so many downvotes? Humorous, useful, down to earth, mix of objectivity and opinion. A car review could hardly be better.
Charge port is in the perfect spot.
Reverse into a parking/charging pay and drive out so as not to reverse into kids or trrollies.
Can easily see oncoming traffic when leaving the bay its alot easier than having to put the entire 4m of van into the road to see it. This applies for garages aswell. Plus
It's alot easier to reverse in and drive out, it really is.
The Germans and Elon know these simple common sense driving habits.
Safety first!!!!
Love the van and FG!
Larger vehicles/restricted rear visibility are generally supposed to back in. Guess that got lost along the way as everything turned into oversized trucks and SUV's
Please do not EVER put charge points on the front. Back in, drive out.
@@kaciewolverton2692 Really it's best practice for all vehicles, but yea it goes double for them
This is my dream car as a father of 3 who would also like to transport a couple of bikes from time to time, but it is kind of expensive
Kind of?
@@PassportToPimlico It all depends on your own income.
@@TremereTT It's VW's ID parts in a very interesting configuration but I just can't help thinking that a buyer is paying quite a few thousand for that VW badge.
@@TremereTT Income is regardless, as this is just overpriced for what it is. They need to cut costs and be more efficient.
It doesn't even have three separate seats in the back. Put a child seat in there, and the space is limited for the kids.
5:00 I love the airiness of the front cabin; it reminds me of the old American 6 seat cars with no huge center console to rub against my right leg.
Looks fab and I hope VW sell lots as they will be a joy to see on the road. But as a follower of the original MicroBus concept, for me, the ID Buzz comes 20 years too late and having just configured one out of curiosity, I can think of dozens of vehicles I'd rather buy for £57k.
I have a green/white on order, really liking the orange now. I have an ID3 with v3.0 software and it’s nowhere near as bad as it’s made out to be. My main gripe would be the controls on the wheel that are too easy to brush over and change tracks/channels.
I sat in a Buzz at the fully charged show and loved it. I’ve no issues with the materials used.
It’s just the perfect do anything vehicle.
@Clay Can no idea, not been given a date other than sometime in 2023. :/
@Clay Can Update: Build 6th Feb delivery mid March23
A lot of those niceties are at-cost options (park assist plus, memory, fancy two-tone seats, two-tone paint, electric rear side doors, bigger infotainment screen, etc.). Even on the highest starting spec.
However, it is very compelling! This over a lifestyle SUV any day.
As long as it has a sliding door that’s all I care about with kids. I don’t need any of the other stuff but I want a sliding door on an electric car.
@@davidradtke160 It has a sliding door, don't worry
Apparently, working rear windows is also an accessory.
Sitting posture is just like a car. Part of the fun and comfort of the bus was its upright posture and steering wheel angle.
I feel like the roof needs to be higher - no sun roof is a mistake.... And there should be an option for a camper top - that is what people really want. That said - it looks wonderful!!
Maybe they can remove the powered part of the sliding doors and tailgate to drop the price. The hiding towing hook could also be swapt for a standard static hook. I reckon that drops the price by 5,000.
I wouldn’t trust that thing to tow much anyway…
The market segment is rich people who want to feel green, not average people trying to afford a great family car.
The Price point for any of the T-Series in the last 30 years was always waaaaay too high for the everyman.
Not that I agree with that Policy, but it is the reality...
In Sweden i does indeed come with unpowered doors if you wish so. Pretty sure the hook is powered or nothing though.
😂
The powered doors are an addon, which actually drive the price up. So for 65k € you get nonpowered doors
I'm in love with this kind of cars, for the same reason I have an Espace (Renault). But the price is rediculous! I get it, we were so in love with the T1, somehow it can ride the coat tails of its older sibling, but for me, this is a bit of treason. All these trendy lifestyle vehicles are sold at a price point far beyond most of our means, while the origin of this van was exactly the opposite! Out of spite, frustration, or whatever you want to call it, I would refuse to spend that kind of cash and go for both an Aptera and a conversion; My Renault Espace does all what Buzz does and more, with a massive glass roof to boot. Same dimensions, sort of, same roomy and glassy cocoon (a bit of an oxymoron if you ask me, but I get your point). Buy the Renault second hand, go to a conversion shop and have the engine swapped for tesla bits and bops and you are cheaper and better off! And if that is too much, go for the real McKoy which is the *_XBus_* IMO. Now that is the real new T1! Both in versatility as well as price point.
I'll bet Fluffy wants one...
XBus, now there's an interesting concept, at least until I read that it does 100km/h at max and has No airbags, what the hell.
Driving an Espace and complaining about the price 😂
@@ramdynebix I wish! ;-) it's a golden oldie from '04. New ones are more glorified estates mate ;-)
Jack, you are delightful and informative. I was sold until you mentioned the rear windows don't open (!) and that whopping big price tag.
Love it! But not so much the cowl/windscreen junction and the A2 pillar. Great video review!
Minivans need to come back strong. Even ICE ones you see on the road now would be my first choice for a family car. As was mentioned in the video, the space efficiency is unmatched and there's surprise and delight wherever you look in the cabin. Secret storage and lots of it, the middle row of seats can slide left, right, forward, back and they tend to be captains chairs, so they beat the S-Class for perceived luxury. I honestly don't see why they fell out of fashion recently. I really hope the ID Buzz makes the minivan cool again and the public outside the car lovers community, get a sense of the last word in practicality.
well the S-class is a status symbol, the better luxury car is the EQV /V-class. but those VIP Vans are even more pricy than a S-class.
I had all the standard knee-jerk oppositions to minivans until our family rented one on vacation. Love the one we ended up buying.
I understand that in the USA people would assume you were a Soccer Mom. In the U.K. people would ask you what the surfing was like.
Very nice review, and it's reassured me that ordering one was a smart move! No clue when we'll get it, though. Ours will be Two-tone, White over Bay leaf green (greenish turquoisey color) with white and jade green interior. It's gonna be superb, I'm sure of it. Really axious to get it now, after watching this :P
Surely the biggest problem with electrical vehicles is that, in most places, they still charge from inefficient fossil fuelled power stations?
For now yes, we NEED more government & corporate investment in solar wind & nuclear infrastructure ! Im in for the long battle, fight big oil & every stage, use All government oil subsidies for clean infrastructure! Otherwise.........we lose
Surely gas cars always use fossil fuels and that will never change
Well done, a very honest and straight forward review of an iconic model reborn. I have screamed at your rants about large impractical SUVs (I hate them too) but I really love how you switched that part of your brain off to review the ID Buzz. I'd have one in a heartbeat, no question.
What I hate is traditional providers turning off the comfort/luxury factor in a race to the bottom on margins. Is there really an enormous margin in dialling everything back to the feel of a milk crate in your interior v a soft touch? Or even making your infotainment system so unnavigable during the night hours or requiring four to five clicks just to control the interior temperature? I think the Euro and ANCAP vehicle safety ratings need to be inclusive of the amount of distraction given by a so called infotainment that are merely poorly developed rubbish, don't turn away VW, you are possibly the worst in this area.
Very nice ! Especially in a few years they'll still be used and in a good shape so we can fetch them at half the price !
Removable Center Console:
As others have mentioned, useful as a passthrough to the back, also, however, very useful for extra long items like surfboards, lumber, or that latest IKEA purchase :)
Just like my 1961 VW bus in fact
The video has the feeling of a review from the original British "Top Gear." I loved that show, and this gave me a delightful feeling of nostalgia.
This is an interesting design. I wish they would have put a fold-down seat in the trunk/boot. Then it really would have been interesting as a replacement to some SUVs. Also, looks like the door hits the charge port when open; which seems like a huge oversight
That price is eye watering, but that driveway memory is KEY! I would really consider a 7 seat version just for that. I won’t have to take out the van for my 80 yr old mum anymore when she want to go out.
Yea, but she'll be 83 by the time it's in your driveway so hold onto that deposit for now 😞
Underneath it's just an id3 !
Really? Seems utterly pointless to me. I guess your drive is harder to park in than mine.
Good job ID Buzz on that parking 👏 I'm excited to see these rolling around once they come to the US.
the us version is supposed to be bigger right? even though I don't know why
@@jm100368 it is supposed to be yeah. Only the long wheel base version coming to us apparently.
@@jm100368 Because an ID4 looks ridiculously big on European roads. The USA is yet to get the ID3 which is far more popular than the ID4 here.
We don't have the Toyota Sienna here in Norway// Scandinavia, so this is something that really catches my eyes
I think I actually saw you guys driving those things in Copenhagen few weeks back, they look really good on the street
Yeah and it is a great relief to see an EV that's not a tall ugly SUV design
Thanks Jack for a fair and decent video. Thumbs up for the video.
£57k!!!!!!!!!!! That is a lot of money and a lot of plastic. When/if the Canoo is built, it is expected to be half this price!!!!! Thumbs down for the silly VW price.
EVs usually end up being more expensive than initial predictions. Plus with a VW product you will have better dealer backup when someone smashes your wing mirror off or similar.
Choice is a personal thing and I’ve been very critical of many recent EV releases but wait; something I could use as a car or could stick my eMTB in the back of (removable box is a bonus here) and still tow a lightweight pod style camper with enough range to still go somewhere like that. Time will tell but I’m guessing these will also hold value exceptionally well which would be good news for lease prices. At this point in my life I simply don’t need a car but if things were to change and work stopped being a ‘from home’ thing, this would probably be top of my ‘to lease’ list. The practicality would far outweigh the shortcomings.
Lots of storage but how well does it go down the road fully loaded? Also how expensive are replacement parts? How much will it cost top replace the batteries? Nice van though!
You’re excellent at this
Really underwhelmed with this one. I loved the prototype's design but this feels uninspired in comparison. Factor in the price and this is clearly a no go for me.
Need the seven seater to come and be as practical as the new multivan. If it's there, I'll swap from the multivan to the buzz. That's my current plan. It's a perfect car for us, a family of 5 with some complex needs that make the space a critical requirement.
Was looking for this comment - really looking forward to the variant with 6/7 seats to replace the Touran in our household. Hopefully that will happen soon so I won’t need to shell out for the new Multivan
Agreed. Would love for this to replace my Sienna when the time comes.
Do not trade your multivan yet since that is more spacious inside than id-Buzz, you can also look at Multivan T7 PHEV hybrid instead for trading your older multivan,
but if you still want iD-Buzz just wait a bit longer for better versions to spun out (this is my opinion anyway.. ) Safe trips.. ;0)
Love it everything about it quiet when being driven, what a shame I cannot drive, but then the price will be in the thousands, I do have a disabled scooter though❤
Nicely done.
The perfect electric family vehicle, for families that can just about afford electric in 2022.
You think 60k is a family car.
@@pstanyer1 meanwhile, you don't think I was being sarcastic.
I want to see actual kids and seats being hauled in and out of a car before it’s declared “perfect". Especially at that price point. For daily city driving with 2 small people, plus occasional spares, I'd rather see something like the old Mazda 5. If you only have two car seats and never have spares, I guess you could get this? But why?
I may add this, for all you wet wipes on here..
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Great review and video ! I like this van it reminds me of the VW Micro Bus ( Vanagon ) . I hope VW makes a hybrid version of this I am not ready for a full electric vehicle just yet .
Is it just me or does it remind anyone else of a dodge grand caravan?
So interesting watching this as a Canadian/North American. Everything smaller there. Will be interesting to see how well it does here
If you are charging and someone opens the back door from inside without noticing, does the door have some sensor to stop without running over the charge connector?
Oh... It really seems like VW have discovered the Renault Espace IV and have electrified it!
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Nice vídeo, as usual.
I miss the Renault Espace
Exactly ! But they forgot to copy the width inside the boot. And removable rear seats for first series. What a van + car it was.
More like it’s just the next iteration of the VW sharan, the buzz even has the same cup holders (in the sharan they were for row 2) . The rear layout is identical to the 1st edition of the 7n sharan
£56k for the bottom of the range van - you must me joking. MG4 £32k for top of the range.
apples and roundabouts
but yeah, it's really expensive
It's like VW is saying, "hey VW fans! We see you, and go F yourself!" lol
£32k for the MG4 you must be joking, you can buy an e scooter for £500
Pfff I could get a bicycle for 150 💷
mg4 is a small-medium hatch. youd struggle to get 5 people into it
Can't wait for the front collision safety test results.
The happiest looking car ever was clearly the original Renault Twingo but I take your point. This is a very nice vehicle.
All very attractive, but the price is a killer. (Oh, and all charge ports should be at the back. Charge ports at the front are a pain and mean you have to drive forwards into parking spaces which is never a good idea.)
Parking backwards means your boot/trunk is hidden from the world and thieves can have their hidden way with your rear end
I can see a lot of these replacing big SUVs on the weekly trek from Middle England back to Kensington & Chelsea..
It looks like the sliding door might overlap the charging port when it open - does it? Can you fully open the door while charging?
Totally agree. All electric vehicles need real buttons and knobs that are backlit. Don't want to drive a cell phone, I want my to keep my attention on the road.
Great review, Absolutely astonished so called switches do not light up! How on earth are we meant to drive the thing at night and at that price point, also why no opening rear windows?
some cars use narrow beam lighting from above for focused points on console or dash; has he actually driven it at night?
It would be amazing if the driver and passenger seats revolved to face into the rear for when you stop and camp.
VW knows nobody wants to visually see their kids.
I love the fact that, unlike all those other autos that have gone electric, it is so aerodynamic. The VW ID. Buzz wouldn't be like driving a huge brick into the wind. Not at all...
My initial reaction to the 57k British Pounds is "obscene"; especially given the horrific UI, and charging software!! The other model starts at $70,000 US dollars!! Even if VW licensed the Tesla software, panoramic roof, and 400-mile range, then it might be possible to stomach the price with some TUMs tablet!! No one should pay that kind of price for the MEB platform which is going to be retired in 2023!