Fujifilm X-T3 vs Panasonic GH5 for Video: Quick Look
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- The Fujifilm X-T3’s video specs are so impressive that the camera it most makes sense to compare its output to is Panasonic's GH5. With a little help from the DPReviewTV crew in Calgary, we’ve shot some side-by-side comparisons between these two video powerhouses.
We’ve shot them both at matched exposure settings and approximately matched depth-of-field setting.
To really appreciate the codec differences, we recommend downloading the less compressed version, to avoid the differences being swamped by RUclips’s compression.
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The video features and improvements in AF are remarkable but what many of us will be waiting for is the X-H2 with all the goodies of the X-T3, a bigger battery and the flip-out screen of the X-T100.. that's the camera I wanted (and the X-H1 should have been)
Have you consider X-T4? Much better option than X-H2. Trust me.
I know you're half joking but I see no reason to wait for the X-T4, the X-T3 is a great successor to the X-T2. For the X-H1 though many were hoping for the newer sensor and AF improvements that the X-T3 now has. A bigger battery would make a lot more sense for that bigger body too, there is room for it. The X-T3 is just very promising for the X-H2, imagine all these video and AF improvements in a bigger body with IBIS and a flipout screen. That's my dream camera from Fuji.
They have to implement it at this point.
4k60p at x265 compression with continuous AF and sensor stabilization will emit heat and drain the battery like there is no tomorrow.
Yeah this camera is getting me excited about an X-H2. 4K60, better AF, better codecs, plus a bunch of quality-of-life improvements address some of my gripes with the X-H1. The X-H2 will be a beast of a camera when it comes out unless Panasonic or Sony pull some crazy stunts.
Everybody is on the roll in a similar fashion.
I don't think we can see better internal codecs on this stage, I think the sensor and video feature set will be the same as this one. But besides the inevitable sensor stabilisation, a new battery (and architecture that supports it, which will also help with heat management) and maybe a better LCD are important things, the rest can wait or tweaked in the firmware, etc.
Awesome summary! As a GH5 owner, Fuji is the only other company I've been keeping my eye on this year. Depending on what Panasonic has in store, I maaaaaay wander over to Fuji for better low-light and their controls.
You sir are a smart man! Many people fall for the Nikon Z and Canon EOS R marketing but it's true that Fuji and Panasonic put way more efforts in their products, and it shows both for photo and video.
Great review! I am waiting for the fujifilm xh2. I wished the xh1 had the audio jack on the body without needing to add the battery booster. Im quite certain the xh2 will have that, since now they added that to the xt3.
I'm sticking with my GH5 too... still wondering if I should get V-Log. I get the idea that the native Panasonic lenses could be better ... but I'm still working on that.
me too and i was looking forward to the s1 but i am very bummed out. all i wanted was a full frame cam with the same specs as a gh5 with better dynamic range, low light and canon like AF...... but that didnt happen guess im sticking to gh5 until something better comes. the xt3 is good but not enough for me to ditch the gh5
Sold my GH5 due to low light looking at xt3 or Sony A7iii hard to choose
More Jordan episodes! ;)
Wait a minute... he was filming... himself...
On a teenie-little microfourthirds sensor...
Just like you...!
Do you think he... got the i-dea... from you?
It's a conspiracy...!
But that's cool, that's cool.
He's independent now...
There was a time when he was just a flip-out screen to Chris Nichols, but now he's his own host...!
Magnificent...!
But is he stable enough...? That's the question...
Oh yes!
Ohh yes 😍🙏 and more CC video's 😁👍
OMG, finally video review separated from photographic !!!
Great video. I'm not a video-centric user but I always enjoy your sections on full reviews. It's fascinating to see the comparisons, and it's clear you know your stuff. Look forward to more Jordan episodes!
If only Panasonic can autofocus as well... It seems like Fuji does listen to feedback, which is really really great in the long run.
not only feedback - but huge firmware updates based on the feedback through the lifetime of the cameras.
Yeah Panasonic really have that one big achilles heel. I mean, I was about to buy a Panny, then read up on the autofocus and it completely put me off. So many demonstrations of how poor it is on RUclips as well. I ended up ordering the X-T3 this week and from everything I've seen and read I'm confident I have made the right decision.
Exactly the video I've been looking for!
I'm so excited to buy the Fuji X-T3 for filmmaking. I'm using the Fuji X-T2 until now but I'm looking forward to the new autofocus and the new 4K 60fps movie mode.
Excellent work on this video Jordan. No hyperbole, no mcmarketing, solely your personal experiences. Very worthwhile.
Wow, they're really close to being the be-all-end-all solution. Once they hit 10-bit 4:2:2 internally with DCI4K at 60p with 400Mbps All-I, get that fully articulating screen and (much) larger capacity battery, that's pretty much it. Though I'd really like to see a dual ISO solution along with an XLR adapter. If they can get some more DR, that's always welcome, of course. I guess nothing is ever enough, but that Eterna is luscious. Competition is great. I just wish Canon would participate.
I think they will save it for the next X-H2..
120fps is fairly useless except for very intense slow motion. 4:4:4, you should just get a camera that shoots raw video. But yeah, there's always going to be something, but I think we're VERY close for the vast majority of videoshooters. Anything more than 10-bit 4:2:2 4K60p is generally going to be in the realm of a cinema camera.
re: phones
I expect the upcoming RED Hydrogen One to set the bar for what you can do with video in a phone.
It won't be cheap, but as a RED accessory, it'll be pretty low-priced. :)
NO NO NO - no pretty much it at all. The specs you're calling out is not clean video quality. It's all compressed and processed.
@@genjii931 - You don't know what quality video is do you? You keep saying "anything more than 10-bit 4:2:2 4K60p is generally going to be in the realm of a cinema camera." but these cameras produce poor dynamic range and compressed video.
I just bought an Xt3 today and it will be here by the end of the week. I am more into stills as I used to shoot photostat for all the bid ad agencies in SF. I want to use this for video of drum lines as my son is an instructor of a nationally ranked corps and several HS in the area. Your videos helped me decide to get it and the new 27mm instead of the X-T4
I was surprised you preferred the Fuji in the low light test. To my eye, the lumix was the clear winner. So much more detail. The noise looked very similar on both.
Own a X-T2 along with a GH5/S will be getting the X-T3 for photo/video. I just prefer the bigger sensor and lenses, although I wish there was a EF speedbooster.
I know this is late, don’t know if you want Ef to buy full frame or because you own ef lenses.
But there’s a set of lenses from slr magic it’s a cine lens kit and there’s full frame e mount which I’m sure has a speed booster for xmount but also you can just get the xmount slr magic cine lens kit
ALL INTRA codec really saves time when editing. No need for proxies, such a time saver
thats the question that I had, I just bought an XT3 myself, and I was wondering why it would go easier on my CPU since its a bigger file size? could you help me with that?
@@gilbertogranados3018 make sure you're editing on an SSD firstly. Also what software are you using to edit? Make sure you're recording with ALL-I compression and .MOV file extension.
@@LoverOfTech I am using premiere pro, I just switched over to ALL-I, didn´t know about the .MOV extensions, do you also do that in camera?
both are great tools, and both wont be bad in any way, it really depens on what you need... but there are important things like the ecosystem and the ibis, which are imo crutial factors in favour of the gh5, which arent as obvious when comparing still tripod videos... so for light traveling or if you dont want gimbals, you will have to go with the gh5 in order to get realtivly smooth footage, just a reminder... the video quality itself really is on a high level on both, the fuji has the slight edge there imo...
We will see Jordan with a X-H2 in the future ;)
The very far future haha
Jordon, you've come a long way. Killing it these days. Nicely done.
Even the low light shots just looked better on the GH5 to me. Probably the lens? Watching in 4k and to my eyes it looks like no competition at all. I was really surprised. That first shot with the blown out lamp showing no DR on the Fuji, then every shot after. You spoke about LUTS a fair bit, have you tried the Leeming yet? Especially on Resolve it takes a lot of the grading issues away. Great review, keep it up.
More video reviews like this Jordan ! Loved your puns !
Thanks for the first look. I'm SO happy that Fuji have put a higher rez viewfinder and headphone jack on the XT3.
The image comparisons really show the Panasonic yellow tinge. Fuji's colors are gorgeous.
After seeing the specs, I was interested in comparing how well the XT3 stacked up against the GH5. For the price point, GH5 is still a bit better.
Nice review. It's rare that someone brings up advantages a smaller sensor sometimes has and understands how it affects the practical sensitivity of a camera system.
30 minute limit should also be mentioned. Does the X-T3 still have that?
cuckoomusic B&H specs show 29:59 :-(
29.59 limit for 4K/30p, 20 minutes for 50 and 59.94. (www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-t3-first-impressions-review/2#times)
Great job, Jordan. More video reviews like this, please.
I felt the panasonic had a huge advantage on the inter frame compression. And I like fujis shadow recovery better. I really like the tungsten skin tones, on my g85, they seem to be off
Doesn't the Panny G9 now beat the GH5 and GH5s since the upgrade? How would the G9 compare to that Fuji X-T3?
Fuji: Better colors, dynamic range, SNR, lenses, H265 codec, AF speeds GH5: Better battery life, IBIS, monitoring features, flippy screen
Amazingly good quality preview, thanks! Glad to see Fuji join the video competition finally!
Thanks for making this video, as a Gh5s user I was really curious about all these points, AWESOME!
I can’t decide between the canon 80d, lumix g85, Sony a6400, and the Fuji T X30 for 1080P video I know you probably won’t respond but if you see this please help.
Wow, the XT-3 looks promising. Hopefully the production models will be tweaked for even better results. I'm still waiting for a camera with internal 10bit 4:2:2 400mbps and no rolling shutter. Latency on the XT-3 is 17ms - not bad. The GH5 is 13ms.
Do you guys have a video on your GH5 Workflow? And I would love to see a series (video or stills) that shows an upcoming project, and then shows why you picked a particular camera and workflow for that project. (or maybe even just the workflow)
“Don’t forget: follow me on Twitter and...uh, Chris too, if you must” 😂
Great video review from someone that knows video! In Chris and Jordan, DPReview won the offseason by getting the two top free agents on the market ;)
As a GH5 and X-H1 owner, I'm very excited for this. I love being able to film with multiple cameras just for the enjoyment.
RawAutos what camera do you like prefer?
Thanks Jordan. I've been looking ahead to what I might upgrade to from a Canon 80d. I dont think I'm ready yet, as my youtube channel is pretty new, and I'm still learning a lot. But the XT3 looks like a potential next purchase for me. I do a fair bit of video work but I also need to shoot high quality stills. Fujifilm seems to be getting both of these right atm.
...and Christ too if you must. Love the humour which is why I usually watch all your videos even if I’m not actually interested in the camera you are reviewing.
As someone who takes video and photo, I was leaning towards the X-T3 until I heard your comment about the autofocus if your subject is not a face. My subjects are rarely people, I film/photograph a lot of architecture, machinery, and transportation. So a lot of moving things that are not faces. How do you (or anyone else in the comments) think the X-T3 would handle let's say a subway train pulling into a station, the front of the strain starting small on the left of the screen and speeding up and growing bigger as it travels to the right of the screen?
Interesting..
The XT3 is nearly the best mirrorless video camera, just needs some more ports and IBIS, but it’s amazing for photos as well so as someone who does both, I think it’s a no brainer
Hey Jordan, quick question. What do you mean by "grading by hand"? Are you just trying to put contrast and saturation from the log image? Generally speaking, any flavor of LOG has to be converted to workable gamma/colorspace such as Rec. 709. Colorist Juan Melara's channel has a couple of guidelines on how this in done inside DaVinci Resolve.
Color... as much as I like the Jordan&Chris videos, colors tend to be among the strangest across all common photo youtube channels. Guess that is Jordan's specialty! ;)
Hey Jordan and Chris :- HUGE QUESTION> I am happy with my X-PRO2 for stills, am still partial towards my X-T1 for the huge viewfinder, am comfortable working with RAW files but am a total noob to video. The straight out of camera video and continuous autofocus of the Sony rx100v make it my perfect video camera. I don't care about the pocketability.
Does the X-T3 match the continuous autofocus and video capabilities of the Sony rx100v? If so, I can consolidate my X-pro2, X-T1 and rx100v into one X-T3.
According to spec page:
- 4K60 works for "approx 20min" (sounds like overheating limit to me, I absolutely need unlimited 4K60 recording like GH5)
- 4K60 is cropped 1.18x
- video files are split at 4GB (unusable for me)
- 10bit video internally is 4:2:0 only
- HLG (HDR) not yet available (but they say will come by end of year firmware update, not sure if 4:2:0 follows HLG spec, I thought 4:2:2 had to be the HLG spec)
- no IBIS is no good for video and photo (means a $1000 gimball is compulsory for shots off tripod, I never shoot on tripod)
- battery life is way too short means Battery grip is compulsory but goes through 5+ batteries in 1 day of video shooting.
- LCD is not very bright and does not flip to the side (which rules out a lot of types of video shooting, I don't want to buy a camera without a side flip display)
- Lack of object tracking in autofocus is a very big bummer (although the much better face tracking AF than GH5 is great!)
- What does it do in H264 and what does it do in H265? I am hoping it allows to choose either for all frame rates and resolutions and that H265 just means it can do half the bitrate for the same quality. Is that not what it can do? Does it force you to use H265 for IPB? (without even saving a lot on the bitrate?) That's what it sounds like from this video. (since NX1 of 5 years ago I am waiting for a camera to be able to do 4K in H265 properly to save up to half the bandwidth and storage and still be RUclips direct upload compatible at the same 4K quality). I want a camera that does 75mbit/s H265 at the same quality as 150mbit/s in H264. Or 100mbit/s in H265 at the same quality as 200mbit/s in H264. This might require a much "stronger" "advanced" "more complex profile" real-time H265 encoding ability. If RUclips, Netflix and Amazon fit their 4K24 streams within 25mbit/s then surely there is a camera that can fit 4K60 nicely in about 75mbit/s when encoding real-time in camera comparable in quality to what it would do in like the GH5 in 150mbit/s using H264.
Charbax wtf are you talking about dude ? Stfu and go buy a 1dxii then or a 40000 dollar red camera. Im sure you still won’t be satisfied.
I list a bunch of real drawbacks with video on X-T3. 20min record limit, 4GB file splitting, 1.18x crop, no IBIS, LCD doesn't flip to the side, poor battery life. Fuji has to fix all that in X-H2 for me to consider buying into Fuji, but likely Fuji will not. I just wanted a GH5 with good autofocus, this one seems great for face tracking but lack of object tracking is very bad. I hope A7Siii and A7000 do everything that I want.
you have to compare the price too tho..we can't have everything for only $1499.
20 months after GH5 was released, I'd expect to not get anything less when it comes to video anyway. While it's super super exciting to see this extremely good face tracking autofocus and 4K60 with 10bit and H265 options, all those things are awesome, there are many steps back compared with GH5 like no unlimited recording, file splitting at 4GB, 1.18x crop, no IBIS, no flip out display, shorter battery life, no object tracking. I can't be buying a camera that is in many ways worse than GH5 released nearly 2 years ago. I want something that is better in every way.
Wonder how would both compare to the fullframe Z6? True its cant record internally at 10bit or log, but its fullframe and the hdmi out 10bit nlog signal jumps to 458mbps. Dont think it will be as pro video as the GH5s with waveforms or XLR but still would love to see such comparison DPREVIEW!
I heard the X-T3 still has a 4GB file limit, at 400Mbps that's a new file about every minute and a half of recording.
They recently fixed this with a firmware update 😀
Initially loved my X-H1, but Fuji really needs to make a dedicated photo/video mode switch and movie record button. The fidgety mode dial is too cumbersome for fast switching between movie and stills, I hoped this would have changed on the X-T3.
Very simple question, was his actual t-shirt charcoal (X-T3) or blue/grey (GH5)?
I have Panasonic GX 80 (or 85, depending on where you live), and I can't find that color profile Jordan is mentioning "Like 709", does anyone know why? Thanks!
Great video as always! As a side note, I wish everyone in the world would turn the sharpness completely off on the GH5/GH5s. It's too stinkin' sharp!
These are great news for people waiting for the xh2, I am sure will see higher video spec + IBIS.
I think this is the most I’ve ever seen you talk in a video. Great job. So which camera would you recommend for someone who wants to shoot great videos and stills?
I just bought an XT3 myself, and I am wondering why the ALL-I codec would go easier on my CPU (instead of long GOP) since its a bigger file size? could you help me with that?
Which camera has the best 1080p video (25fps, 50fps,120 fps) ?
Jordan, good review.
Definitely planning to buy the X-T3. A recent convert to Fuji X-H1---an awesome video camera. For the first time, after using Sony (gah!!), Panasonic--so-so color, crap AF, except for the GH5s, and Canon, I'm delighted with the beautiful colors of the film simulations. I've never seen such beautiful footage coming out of the camera, with gorgeous, inspiring color, sharp, clean images that require minimal grading and adjustments in post.
Next, Fuji needs to produce a camera with waveforms and an XLR unit a la the Canon XC15---then there will be some ass kicking.
Really happy with my decision to go with Fuji----and boy, are the X-T2 and X-H1 easy to use and fun, fun, fun.
Hi Jordan, thanks for the info. I would like to ask how big is lets say 1 minute video: 10bit,4k@60fps,4.2.0 - SDcard recording in h265 on xt3?I have currently xt2 and would consider xt3 - and would love to know the size of the video with h265 codec versus h264.Many thanks.
Quick question - was that firmware 2.3 in the GH5 for the AF test and did you use the default settings or improve them (on both)?
I am a Nikon shooter and was pretty excited for the Z6... I almost bought a XT2 but wanted to see what Fuji had in store... Now I am thinking of totally disregarding the Z6 and going for the XT3. nothing but positive things have been said about it, and fuji glass is amazing. IBIS would have been nice but if your really doing video it would probably be best to use a Ronin S or other gimble... Which can be bought with the money that would have had to go towards buying a Z6... Nikon came out with an awesome Camera but way over priced it for what it is. On a side note... Very interesting to see this was filmed down the street from my house in Prestwick hahaha
I'd like to try the XT3 for video but in Jordan's samples here the GH5 seems to have better rolloff in the highlights.
I almost bought an XT-2, so glad I waited :)
Quindi per un utilizzo di corti thriller e documentari per la parte video e per scatti fotografici vari x concorsi e da usare come web cam, secondo te meglio gh5, sony a 6400- sony zv e10- fuji x-t3, x-s10 o x-t30 o anche la panasonic g90, o gh1 quale la più utile e completa? Ci tengo molto all" autofocus automatico migliore per non perdermi il sogetto e ad una stabilizzazione valida, utili la tropicalizzazione e poter ascoltare in cuffia i video girati, un mirino può essere utile ed un buon boket non guasta. Grazie.
Great review! Do you guys have yet another review of the XT-4 versus the GH5? Or better yet, I can’t help but think Panasonic MUST be ready to finally release an updated GH5- perhaps a GH6?! Or FINALLY produce an APS-C version of the GH5?? A real comparison would be between a new APS-C Panasonic LUMIX versus the XT-4
Out of sheer curiosity, does the X-T3 still have that same "stepping" effect when it's changing ISO values, like how the X-T2 and X-H1 have?
A Nikon shooter here. Quite happy with the Z6 announcement but the XT3 seems to tick all the boxes.
great review. question, how is the connectivity of the phone app and camera? 2nd, @ 3:26 - is that a 30fps or 24fps? looks in-between, watching this over an old iPhone so I could not tell
I have a GH5 myself and I love it but there are a few things I absolutely hate about it, my last camera was a Pentax K70 and the K70 wipes the floor with the GH5 with regards to image quality of photos. I'm glad to see in many reviews and sample photos that the Fjuifilm X-T30 which i'm interested in buying has better image quality. Another I hate about the GH5 is the noise, even at ISO200 you can see noise if you pixel peep, at ISO1600 the noise is quite bad, it's much lower on the Fjui X-T30. I love the in body stabilization of my GH5 but to be honest as effective as it is it's still not perfect and a gimble is much, much better. Can you tell me in your opinion how much more shaky an X-T30 is using an OIS lens than the GH5 with it's 5 axis?
Great video. I'm so confused though. I was so certain I would buy the new A7iii, as an upgrade to my A7 and because of the video quality . Now I see this. Should I go to Fuji or panasonic since they have 10 bit 422 internally? Exciting options but it feels more difficult to choose then ever.
I Have The Fujifilm XT30 With Two Lens The 90mm F/2 And The 18-55 2.8-4.
How does the auto-ISO transition? Is it still very flickery, or did they put in smooth transitions now?
How do you think yesterday's AF autofocus update holds up to the Fuji?
Jordan, thank you for video. How about aliasing and moire?
I'm looking forward to getting the XH-2
This is a great, informative video! Jordan, as a video editor, what file format do you find the most effective to work with (without gaining compression artifacts, and not causing the computer you're editing on to struggle)?
Would the Fuji XT3 have time limits for live-streaming? Do you think it would overheat in an hour long livestream?
1:47 Indeed, graded with Eterna LUT, gives more depth than you get from Panasonic which looks too flat. Good to know...
sweet full jordan review
How is the GH 5 more professional when it has serious focus issues?
Because pros dont use af...
@@froznfire9531 I'm a pro and I use AF in video 99% percent of the time.
Why are the shadows so dark? I am confused, as Fuji is known for its great colors and film simulations, but with such pitch black shadows (not only it this review but in other clips as well) the picture looks so digital because of this contrast in shadows, and even GH5 footage looks much more natural. Kind of disappointed with that, but hope a proper color correction and grading can fix it. Even this Eterna film simulation looks so digital and contrasty
i agree with you, this preview is suck!:)
I've seen other videos where the shadows are completely crushed. No detail at all. I'm surprised he compared both shots at 2:19 -ish when the shirt and hat had no detail they were so dark with the XT-3 and he still made a noise judgment.
Completely agree with you. On paper, the sensor size and color profiles should really excel, but I keep looking at all the footage out there and it has a very digital look and feel. The blacks are crushed, and the GH5 indeed looks much more natural. And the dynamic range looks limited with harsh a harsh roll off in the highlights. I have not been wowed by any of the footage available and think it's worth waiting for Panasonic's full-frame response.
Right Alex - the review and fan boys like to promote specs but could careless about picture quality. The mislead people into buying cameras that become obsolete in 6 months.
Great review.. Love both Cameras
cool review even in 2020... I love my X-T3
What about 4:2:2 and Axis stabilization?
What mic are you using for the scene near the river?
2:16 Unless you've switched the labeling, GH5 looks far much better in every aspect(except autofocus, there is a fix for it though via the menu)
How was the auto ISO performance. I remember you mentioning that the X-H1 had the hard stops.
This is so important. I want to know too.
The GH5 looks sharper to me, Eterna is nice though
They intentionally shot out of focus on X-T3. Really strange, that you don't see it.
um, you sure?
Um, yeap. The first couple of shots were pretty focused well, and then you just facing a blurry image, like kinda canon's 1080p. Especially at @1:55
Thanks Jordan! Great comparison!
XT2 suffered from hard stops when using Auto ISO when recording video, unlike the smooth, gradual changes to Auto ISO changes like the Sony's do.. Very anxious to find out if Fuji corrected this in the XT3. Did you guys test Auto ISO changes during recorded video? Thanks,
They definitely did - there's another video on here where the guy is vlogging walking through dark areas into hard sunlight and it's about as perfect as anything else I've ever seen.
tx2 to me win..but tx3 without ibis not so good
Wondering if this will be a great B cam to a GH5.
Chris, that hat really suits you.
Please when the xt3 will be on the market do the same thing with Sony a7III
Great job, thanks for the review !
I'm dying to see a comparison with the G9! The G9 is so underrated and honestly the features on the G9 is awesome as well
I fallen in love for Fuji but what's vs a7iii?
Is it worth to buy this when you can buy a FF sony a7 iii (with IBIS) at almost same deal price ?
Oh, wauw. GH5 is better in almost every test shot. SO much nicer picture. Just lost in the AF test.
Is it possible to record video on both cards simultaneously?
is it just me or at 2:15 and before, the fuji footage has unusable banding? Seeing the video on 4k on youtube, but it still could be youtube.
Thanks Jordan. Very useful stuff.
fuji killing it man,my next camera..
any in body image stabiliser on the fuji xt3 ????