One of the best reviews I have seen on both of these cameras and its great to see Black Magic shaking things up in the industry!They can no longer be dismissed like they were in the past!
A company called LucAdapters is making an EF APSC to EF Full-frame speedbooster for this camera making it full-frame. They're calling it the Magicbooster.
@@Holtenstein sounds good but almost too good to be true or at least functional. I've seen a few companies attempt to do that kind of adapter but in the end it's near impossible because of the flange distance
maybe if they come up with a speedbooster that goes into the mount, like inserting it into it, and only have a very thin ring that protrudes from the actual mount they can make it work, if not, the flange distance factor will make it impossible
Thanks for this video Tom. I am waiting to have my BMPCC 6K delivered. You have answered all the questions I had with the SmallRig cage and the Samsung T5 SSD. I will have a look at he Angelbird SSD's now. As always you are on the top of my subscribed list. I appreciate all the work you put into your RUclips videos.
Thank you Tom!! I was waiting for this review! I'm sold! pocket 6K it is for me. Thank you for your time, dedication, and always great and very thorough reviews. Best film school I ever attended. 🎥🎬🍻
best early review! I own the 4k and I am still in the exchange period so I will be definitely be upgrading. I really want the reframing capability. keep up the good work
Aaand here's the man I'd listen to when it comes to gear. Thank you for the knowledgeable, non-biased and easy to understand review as always, Tom! I'm definitely happy with my newly arrived p4k and considering I'll most likely downscale to 1080p for the project I bought this for, it'll serve me very well. If I had to deliver 4k footage then I'd love the 6k as I can downscale for a sharper look but even so, a bit of sharpening in Resolve should do the trick with my current gear.
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️GREAT COVERAGE!! But no BRAW in 4k really? Ouch. That’s all I Shoot. I wanna see the new metabones .64 specifically made for the pocket 4K. Slightly better FOV and almost 2 stops added light.. no one is talking about it yet.... as it releases like 2 weeks ago. But you pretty much covered all the bases!!👍
Nice review man. Seeing so many videos of people talking about the camera but they don't even have it. Should get mine in a few days. Still not sure about getting rid of my 4K haha.
@@maoyron True...it sucks. I fail to understand why they have limited the 6K. But for the price 6K is still a steal. Perhaps they will introduce it with updates. I am relatively new to cinematic cameras and I was going for the BMPCC 4k with speedbooster as I take tiny steps into film making. But as a seasoned Canon (photography) user the mount on the 6K is big deal for me. The money saved on the speedbooster or new mft lens will be spend on 6k and I get to use my canon lenses. I will appreciate if you have any thoughts about my plan.
Tom like many here, I love your content. You get straight to the point a deliver a ton of relevant info. I have made buying decisions based on your information.
This was very insightful, thank you. I was about to rush into purchasing the Pocket 6K but after seeing the difference between the 6K 35mm image size compared to the Pocket 4K with speed booster, I'm hesitant.
I think the 2 cameras are really for one, simple reason: lenses. The quality I've seen from the 4k is pretty damn incredible. For $1300 and if it fits your shooting style, an absolute bargain. But there is a lot of Canon glass out there and it basically raises the cost of the 4k if you come from the EF camp. So yes, there are some definite advantages of the 6k camera. But it's all about the glass.
I was one of the lucky ones that bought the BMPCC 4K then happened to sell it just before the 6K dropped. Not joking, I said a quick, sincere thank you prayer when I first saw this new cam appear, I reckon it would have made the value of my Pocket 4K drop drastically. Very keen to get two 6Ks for doing short films. 'Satchel 6K'!
Thanks for the review, fair as slways. I own the P4k and still have no real need for the P6k yet but I will for sure get one with in time. I love the Idea of having super 35mm on the Pocket to have bit better match to my UMP and have native EF mount, those things means the moast for me to have the pocket 6k, shooting in 6k is just a plus for me and I can of course see some use for it, even in 4k projects. I am usung pocket 4k on my drone in 4k raw but it would be nice being able to shoot 6k raw on the drone so the p6k will come in handy. Again thanks for your reviews, plain facts fair and honest reviews are always welcome.
I have the pocket 4k and I use it with Rokinon Cine DS lenses with EF mount with a Metabones T Cine speed booster XL 0.64x. This configuration makes it better for low light conditions because the speed booster gives an 1 1/3 stop extra. That means when I set the ISO to 3200 is like I'm exposing to 8000 ISO. I like that. I love the benefit of the speed booster that makes it better in low light conditions. I think you never considered that when you talked about it, because when you use the speed booster you have to compensate the exposure for the extra 1 1/3 stop that makes the lens even faster.
Would love to know the Level of PC windows based systems you would need for editing in 4k and 6k Raw. Type of gpu, Cpu type and speed, how much memory, ssd main drive size, ect.
Black Magic have a new benchmark program, that will let you know what resolutions and compression ratios that your computer can handle. Check their website.
Thank you for the detailed and honest review. Details like the stabilization not being powered on all the time when running on the internal battery really shows the dedication to bringing a truthful video. I wouldn't buy the Pocket 6k anyway since I don't have the money for it, but this video really helped kill the desire to buy something I wasn't ever going to need anyway.
Great review, thank you! You mentioned that Sony glass can be adapted to pocket 4k. I was told it's not possible, do you mind sharing what adapter makes that possible? Please and thank you!
if you gave me the 6K?, i would trade it in for 2 More 4K's.... without! Hesitation. it serves ABSOLUTELY! No Purpose in real world use. And you can ONLY shoot in BRaw. Great Review Boss.
It's so incredibly unfortunate they put an EF mount on this and didn't stick with an MFT mount with the super-35 sensor in it which has been shown to easily work. By going EF you are sacrificing so much from ultimate lens stability and mount strength to use of speed boosters or behind the lens ND filters, especially with also it only being a x1.6 Canon sized super-35 and not true full academy x1.4.
I am hoping they will add a MFT mount in the near future like they did when they released the original 2.5k for the same reasons you mentioned. In addition I would like to get the fuji cine zoom set that now comes in mft. ZCAM is doing it with the same sensor and it should be out this fall. I hope Black Magic Design has the mft option by then. I would also like to see a canon rf mount.
Great as always. Very detailed and informative video. Thank you. Hopefully you can make another video about the crop factor on the 6K because from what I've read, it has a crazy Crop factor when you shoot in 2.7K 120fps. Really want to see how you think and deal with it in real world shooting.
Thank you so much Tom, this video calmed my nerves about my 4k purchase Haha. One question, with a metabones speed booster XL on my pocket 4k, will EF lenses retain their IS capabilities?
Nice review Tom, thanks. Blackmagic rocks the market for Indi-Filmmakers. I´m still corious, what the Z-cam 6k footage looks like. Which tripod did you use for the Manfrotto-Head?
Great video, very informative and great with the hands on tests of rolling shutter etc! It is more of a comparison than it's a review though.. I kinda got lost in a lot of comparing with the 4K version, which wasn't what i was looking for.
Thanks! I do lots of lighting videos still except youtube doesn't notify subscribers unless you hit the bell notifications button. Here are my lighting tutorials: ruclips.net/video/Iz2U-SHQ7_w/видео.html
Thanks for the review Tom. Very thorough and succinct. What tripod are you using? iFootage? Which model? It looks like a well proportioned pod for a BMPCC. Just what i need. I'm currently using a Miller. Bit over-kill for the BMPCC. Thanks Tom.
@@BlackWarriorLures I think they're trying to corner the market. Even if it means losing money. Lots of people would have bought both cameras if they were released 2-3 years apart. But they're being aggressive and want to steal as much market share as possible.
The best and detailed review so far for P6K. I use P4K for doc. I always use 1:8 ratio for 4K but the size is going to be too big with P6K. I would like to know if 1:12 ratio of P6K comparing with 1:8 of 4K as to quality.
You could use the 4k for a feature. Most theaters still use a 2K projector. Some are upgrading to 4K projectors, but for an independent feature that'll get limited release or go in the festival circuit the Pocket 4k is plenty. And technically I've shot one feature film (ultra low budget) on a 1080p camera. It just went in the festival circuit but it was fine.
@@BrianMakesFilms hey wanna collaborate on a feature project? As a producer? If yes then please share you contacts. I'm a writer/director worked as a chief assistant director in a production company and now I'm making some shorts.
I far prefer the almost full frame equivalent when using the xl speedbooster. Plus the option to use a whole host of other lenses including m43 lenses.
I really want to see RAW recording in 4k. Kinda weird that the 4k vs can record RAW but the 6k cant. Hope its something they can fix in a firmware update soon.
Thank you for the great review~! I am, however, interested about the possible comparison between this BM 6k and the upcoming (slightly rumored) sigma fp.
Did you say adapt Sony emount lenses to Micro4/3? I didn't think that was possible with M4/3 flange distance being greater than Sony emount. Is there a speedbooster that allows refocusing? If you've done this, please include name of adapter or link, I would love to use this, thank you.
Great review Tom, It looks like Blackmagic is taking steps in the right direction- I don't think it would be worth upgrading if you already have the 4K. The 6K also isn't quite a "Pocket" camera anymore.
S35 is smaller then APS-C but you have a Metabones 0.71x booster, which converts it to a full frame equivalent, if you want to convert it to S35 you need the 0.64x booster. Just wanted to throw that in :P Great video tho!
So, people haven’t received their 4K order yet? I would worry about placing an order for the 6k. When would I get it? Definitely interested. No more 2 cam interview setups unless I go 90 degree angle.
Fantastic Review - how did you get the sigma 18-35 art at 1.7 on the 6k? I understand how you would hit that with the metabones on the 4k but wouldn’t your fstop be limited to 1.8 on the 6k?
im wondering, when filming with this, how is the autofocus? let say you suppose to keep track of a snowmobile plowing through the snow. How fast can this keep track of moving objects. Cars, people, bikes and so on? is it Canon Dual pixel focus fast or?
I have the P4K and I love it. That said, I consider a Speed Booster to be a near essential purchase, and considering the price of the Metabones products, there's going to be few reasons for anyone not to just go straight for the P6K in future. Both very fine cameras regardless.
Great review Tom, but I would have been excited and pumped if instead BM had came out with a updated bmpcc 4k that had a tilt screen. Why would any aspiring film maker want to shoot a narrative in 6k anyway? Heck, vast majority of Hollywood feature films are shot in 2k. Why do the premier directors and cinematographers drool over and continue to shoot with the Alexa in 1080? Exceptions of course, I'm just saying 6k does not impress or intrigue me one bit.
Great review Tom as always! A note, the power connector on these cameras is NOT Lemo, it is the Weipu SF 610, so prospective buyers beware that existing Lemo gear will not work.
@@TomAntos Of course, thanks for producing great videos. I saw you have a bunch of cameras lined up, are we getting a shootout between BMD, Arri, and Red?
@@TomAntos Awesome! I'll look forward to that video, I may one day pick up the Pocket 6k as an A cam to use alongside my 4k so I'd love to see it in action!
Hello Tom. Great review as always. Thanks a lot for this works. I have the BMPCC 4K and when I film (or shot? Sorry for my english) in RAW 2K it creates an adicional crop factor because filming in 2K only use half sensor. My cuestion is: If you use the BMPCC 6K but film in RAW 4K, do you get and adicional crop factor or use the whole super 35 sensor en RAW 4K too?
Hi Tom, Thanks for your Test BMPCC 4K vs. BMPCC 6K. I don't have the 4K and 6K. But I want to have! The only question is: wich of them... To me: I'm a video journalisms. Often I have to make run and gin videos, sometimes I have a little more time for better pictures. So I have for "run and gun" the Sony Z90. But for the better pictures my BM Mini Ursa 4.6 is to big. But for filming TV the Ursa Mini is too heavy. What ist your opinion? What should I buy? ...4K or 6K...? ( I have 4/3 objectives, also 5x walimex EF 14-85mm and 3x canons. The walimex are not stabiliced. Stabilisation is very important for me!)
Great review Tom.Like camera specs it has really good features for that price.Easy to use and operate.This is a good step up for blackmagic.And good step for the industry. Nobody was able to touch good uncompressed RAW footage in the past for less then 30000 usd$. But if you want to have accurate colors this is not the right choice.If you look carefully in the image you will notice that there is a brownish tint. Like sepia filter applied over the picture. Check the greenery in these footages. It doesn't look correct. This is the biggest disadvantage of all blackmagic cameras together with the fixed noise pattern in the dark areas. For green screen keying is it ideal solution.Low noise in the green channel.Good overexposed and underexposed compensation range.The quality is much better when you overexpose then underexpose the picture. It is perfect for small production with low budgets looking for professional quality. If they fix the color space to make it look very close to the reality the other big camera makers are in real trouble. :))) For sure good camera to have it.
I think they put the EF mount because so many people requested a smaller camera like their URSA Mini pro... so same size sensor and same mount like the URSA Mini Pro but in a much smaller form factor.
Great video. One quick query regarding IS on the 4K model, does it support Lens IS if mounted either of MFT lens and adapted lens through speed boosters?
Native MFT lenses image stabilisation will work with the 4K, such as the 12-35 from Panasonic. With a Metabones speedbooster, there are certainly some lenses that the IS works on. They provide a list of fully compatible lenses.
It's funny, I just bought the 4k but this video just wants to make me buy the Metabones instead of returning the 4k and getting the 6k. Really don't want the extra 2k
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I answer all your questions about the Pocket 6K camera here: ruclips.net/video/wGKx1YrHBV8/видео.html
i want a camera to use for shooting documentries and music videos ,my budget is between 2000 till 6000 , what do you advice me?
One of the best reviews I have seen on both of these cameras and its great to see Black Magic shaking things up in the industry!They can no longer be dismissed like they were in the past!
I really couldnt tell the difference
Im not upgrading
I like the wider image with the booster
A company called LucAdapters is making an EF APSC to EF Full-frame speedbooster for this camera making it full-frame. They're calling it the Magicbooster.
@@Holtenstein sounds good but almost too good to be true or at least functional. I've seen a few companies attempt to do that kind of adapter but in the end it's near impossible because of the flange distance
@@TomAntos They already make a similar adapter for the Ursa 4.6k. How useful will it remain to be seen? But it could make this camera even better.
maybe if they come up with a speedbooster that goes into the mount, like inserting it into it, and only have a very thin ring that protrudes from the actual mount they can make it work, if not, the flange distance factor will make it impossible
@@TomAntos Please test the 2.8k at 120fps (what's the crop?)
Thanks for this video Tom. I am waiting to have my BMPCC 6K delivered. You have answered all the questions I had with the SmallRig cage and the Samsung T5 SSD. I will have a look at he Angelbird SSD's now. As always you are on the top of my subscribed list. I appreciate all the work you put into your RUclips videos.
Thank you!
DutchAussieProductions I don’t
Thank you, Tom!!
Your wife is such a good sport, always putting in the work as a model. Thanks for helping him, lol.
Yup she's the best. That's why I married her!
Thank you !
Thank you Tom!! I was waiting for this review! I'm sold! pocket 6K it is for me.
Thank you for your time, dedication, and always great and very thorough reviews. Best film school I ever attended. 🎥🎬🍻
Thank you Carlos!
El Carlos Diaz for real?
I have been watching reviews for this camera but I have to say this is THE BEST review I have seen. Thanks Tom.
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best early review! I own the 4k and I am still in the exchange period so I will be definitely be upgrading. I really want the reframing capability. keep up the good work
comar v no
If anyone is wondering you can pull out the port covers and put them back in later if needed. They get in the way a lot.
Aaand here's the man I'd listen to when it comes to gear. Thank you for the knowledgeable, non-biased and easy to understand review as always, Tom!
I'm definitely happy with my newly arrived p4k and considering I'll most likely downscale to 1080p for the project I bought this for, it'll serve me very well.
If I had to deliver 4k footage then I'd love the 6k as I can downscale for a sharper look but even so, a bit of sharpening in Resolve should do the trick with my current gear.
Yes that is a smart decision. Both of these cameras are great. Just depends what you want. Thanks for watching!
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️GREAT COVERAGE!! But no BRAW in 4k really? Ouch. That’s all I Shoot. I wanna see the new metabones .64 specifically made for the pocket 4K. Slightly better FOV and almost 2 stops added light.. no one is talking about it yet.... as it releases like 2 weeks ago. But you pretty much covered all the bases!!👍
Nice review man. Seeing so many videos of people talking about the camera but they don't even have it. Should get mine in a few days. Still not sure about getting rid of my 4K haha.
uhhhhhhhhh ill buy it off you lol
@@catman6089 Haha I think it is taken already :)
Finally got mine ordered, looking forward to getting it in and then out in the field!
This is the best test film I have seen on RUclips!
I think 6K and 4K are the same, the picture quality and clarity are the same, what do you think?
That is one amazing release... USB-C to a 3rd party SSD to record raw file... Thats a pretty good deal
VISION0STUDIO no
Great video, Tom!
Great review...I was planning to get the 4k, but I think I will go for the 6k. Thanks Tom.
Oinam Anand but no 4k braw..
@@maoyron True...it sucks. I fail to understand why they have limited the 6K. But for the price 6K is still a steal. Perhaps they will introduce it with updates. I am relatively new to cinematic cameras and I was going for the BMPCC 4k with speedbooster as I take tiny steps into film making. But as a seasoned Canon (photography) user the mount on the 6K is big deal for me. The money saved on the speedbooster or new mft lens will be spend on 6k and I get to use my canon lenses. I will appreciate if you have any thoughts about my plan.
maoyron Firmware update will be on the way. Hang tight.
Oinam Anand no don’t get the 6K get better lenses
get better lenses instead
I'm impressed by its dynamic range in the video samples here.
NEVER CLICKED SO FAST !
The Pocket 4k is still the best value being half the price and being able to adapt tons of lenses.
Yes 4K is an amazing deal
Cam no
I would like to see a side-by-side 120fps slow-mo
Tom like many here, I love your content. You get straight to the point a deliver a ton of relevant info. I have made buying decisions based on your information.
Thank you Mark!
Same...mainly the Rhino slider and the Manfrotto fluid head for it... Love them both!
Thanks Tom, always straight forward and honest. Don't need the 6k and like the wider shot with the speed booster as a second camera to the UMPG2. :)
jfergusonphotos no
And also a great B camera for the Mini Ursa G2 by having the same EF mount.
Daniel Borges no
Get the old original BMPCC as a b cam then upscale it to 4k
This was very insightful, thank you. I was about to rush into purchasing the Pocket 6K but after seeing the difference between the 6K 35mm image size compared to the Pocket 4K with speed booster, I'm hesitant.
Marc Martinez get the ursa
Your reviews are the best.
To the point and you know what you’re talking about! Thanks Tom!
whats up with the autofocus? did it improve? i know it's a cinema camera, but if you put this beast on a gimbal, continuous AF would be nice.
6k is good for studio who need chroma key or smaller pixel for tracking and greenscreen in post.
im studio no
I think the 2 cameras are really for one, simple reason: lenses.
The quality I've seen from the 4k is pretty damn incredible. For $1300 and if it fits your shooting style, an absolute bargain.
But there is a lot of Canon glass out there and it basically raises the cost of the 4k if you come from the EF camp. So yes, there are some definite advantages of the 6k camera. But it's all about the glass.
I was one of the lucky ones that bought the BMPCC 4K then happened to sell it just before the 6K dropped. Not joking, I said a quick, sincere thank you prayer when I first saw this new cam appear, I reckon it would have made the value of my Pocket 4K drop drastically. Very keen to get two 6Ks for doing short films. 'Satchel 6K'!
Thanks for the review, fair as slways. I own the P4k and still have no real need for the P6k yet but I will for sure get one with in time. I love the Idea of having super 35mm on the Pocket to have bit better match to my UMP and have native EF mount, those things means the moast for me to have the pocket 6k, shooting in 6k is just a plus for me and I can of course see some use for it, even in 4k projects.
I am usung pocket 4k on my drone in 4k raw but it would be nice being able to shoot 6k raw on the drone so the p6k will come in handy.
Again thanks for your reviews, plain facts fair and honest reviews are always welcome.
I think now film makers should really use BPCC for some feature films and music videos .
I have the pocket 4k and I use it with Rokinon Cine DS lenses with EF mount with a Metabones T Cine speed booster XL 0.64x. This configuration makes it better for low light conditions because the speed booster gives an 1 1/3 stop extra. That means when I set the ISO to 3200 is like I'm exposing to 8000 ISO. I like that. I love the benefit of the speed booster that makes it better in low light conditions. I think you never considered that when you talked about it, because when you use the speed booster you have to compensate the exposure for the extra 1 1/3 stop that makes the lens even faster.
Would love to know the Level of PC windows based systems you would need for editing in 4k and 6k Raw. Type of gpu, Cpu type and speed, how much memory, ssd main drive size, ect.
Black Magic have a new benchmark program, that will let you know what resolutions and compression ratios that your computer can handle. Check their website.
Cpu. - R9 -3900k
Gpu - RTX 2080ti
Ram -64 GB ddr4
Thank you for the detailed and honest review. Details like the stabilization not being powered on all the time when running on the internal battery really shows the dedication to bringing a truthful video.
I wouldn't buy the Pocket 6k anyway since I don't have the money for it, but this video really helped kill the desire to buy something I wasn't ever going to need anyway.
Great review, thank you! You mentioned that Sony glass can be adapted to pocket 4k. I was told it's not possible, do you mind sharing what adapter makes that possible? Please and thank you!
Im interested too!
Me too I thought this wasn’t possible
You can’t ...fact
Sony also has the A-mount. Those lenses can be adapted to MFT.
Ahh I see so it’s only the A mount adapters that work to mft
Your channel is the realest bro. Keep up the good work
if you gave me the 6K?, i would trade it in for 2 More 4K's.... without! Hesitation. it serves ABSOLUTELY! No Purpose in real world use. And you can ONLY shoot in BRaw.
Great Review Boss.
As someone else pointed out it’s great for studio use and using green screens. But not useful for a wedding or corporate interview
Well it also has better colors from the new sensor, better lowlight, and with new tvs becoming 8k, 6k might a good decision for the future
@@jambononi
True. it would be like trying to a wedding on a RED or ARRI, What a Nightmare THAT! would bee.
@@jambononi
But great for Agency Commercial work.
@@darrylsmith3102 I actually have a friend who films weddings on a RED which baffles me haha!
Thank you so much for your detailed review!! Do you think a maxed out Macbook Pro 15" mid 2015 can handle the 6K raw in resolve?
It's so incredibly unfortunate they put an EF mount on this and didn't stick with an MFT mount with the super-35 sensor in it which has been shown to easily work. By going EF you are sacrificing so much from ultimate lens stability and mount strength to use of speed boosters or behind the lens ND filters, especially with also it only being a x1.6 Canon sized super-35 and not true full academy x1.4.
I am hoping they will add a MFT mount in the near future like they did when they released the original 2.5k for the same reasons you mentioned. In addition I would like to get the fuji cine zoom set that now comes in mft. ZCAM is doing it with the same sensor and it should be out this fall. I hope Black Magic Design has the mft option by then. I would also like to see a canon rf mount.
Great as always. Very detailed and informative video. Thank you. Hopefully you can make another video about the crop factor on the 6K because from what I've read, it has a crazy Crop factor when you shoot in 2.7K 120fps. Really want to see how you think and deal with it in real world shooting.
Thank you so much Tom, this video calmed my nerves about my 4k purchase Haha. One question, with a metabones speed booster XL on my pocket 4k, will EF lenses retain their IS capabilities?
Yes. I am using IS with Metabones on my Pocket 4K.
can't wait for mine to be here.
Great review - looking forward to more info on the Pocket 6k. Thx so much Tom!
Nice review Tom, thanks. Blackmagic rocks the market for Indi-Filmmakers. I´m still corious, what the Z-cam 6k footage looks like. Which tripod did you use for the Manfrotto-Head?
Cant wait to see it wit LucAdaptor + Anamorphic lens!!
The speed booster is a great tool I guess, but man I can really see the difference in image sharpness.
Great video, very informative and great with the hands on tests of rolling shutter etc!
It is more of a comparison than it's a review though..
I kinda got lost in a lot of comparing with the 4K version,
which wasn't what i was looking for.
Fantastic review! Thanks for comparing both cameras!
Great review. Can you measure how much it crops in 2,8k/120FPS?
Sam Masghati it’s around a 3.3x crop factor.
Excellent review!!
Tom, you always have the best reviews. I greatly enjoyed your lighting videos from years ago, please do more :)
Thanks! I do lots of lighting videos still except youtube doesn't notify subscribers unless you hit the bell notifications button. Here are my lighting tutorials: ruclips.net/video/Iz2U-SHQ7_w/видео.html
Many thanks. Your video contains many valuable information I didn't find from the other videos.
Thanks for the review Tom. Very thorough and succinct.
What tripod are you using? iFootage? Which model? It looks like a well proportioned pod for a BMPCC. Just what i need. I'm currently using a Miller. Bit over-kill for the BMPCC.
Thanks Tom.
Yes its the iFootage tripod that I reviewed before.
Okay, if people are still waiting on their P4Ks, then Blackmagic launches yet another camera, does that mean they're neglecting their customers?
There's more than 1 factory in the world. So maybe not?
@@pahwraith Great point. Maybe there's just that much demand for these cameras.
@@BlackWarriorLures I think they're trying to corner the market. Even if it means losing money.
Lots of people would have bought both cameras if they were released 2-3 years apart.
But they're being aggressive and want to steal as much market share as possible.
The best and detailed review so far for P6K. I use P4K for doc. I always use 1:8 ratio for 4K but the size is going to be too big with P6K. I would like to know if 1:12 ratio of P6K comparing with 1:8 of 4K as to quality.
Hi Tom, thanks for this excellent review. May be I missed it, but may I ask: does this 6K camera support the canon EF-s lenses? (APS-C)
yes
CineVideo-NL no it doesn’t
Excellent review! Thanks!
Also with focal reducer change F-stop brighter.
Great Video ! Thanks for the review! Looking forward to seeing more comparisons .
Hey Tom, I've a question. Can BMPCC 6K can be used for a feature????
You could use the 4k for a feature. Most theaters still use a 2K projector. Some are upgrading to 4K projectors, but for an independent feature that'll get limited release or go in the festival circuit the Pocket 4k is plenty. And technically I've shot one feature film (ultra low budget) on a 1080p camera. It just went in the festival circuit but it was fine.
@@BrianMakesFilms hey wanna collaborate on a feature project? As a producer? If yes then please share you contacts. I'm a writer/director worked as a chief assistant director in a production company and now I'm making some shorts.
Great video, Tom! Super informative
The image it produces is just beautiful
I really love your videos. They give a lot of information. Nice review/test.
Thank you
I far prefer the almost full frame equivalent when using the xl speedbooster. Plus the option to use a whole host of other lenses including m43 lenses.
Thank you, for this detailed review 👌
I really want to see RAW recording in 4k. Kinda weird that the 4k vs can record RAW but the 6k cant. Hope its something they can fix in a firmware update soon.
Did they ever add this in firmware?
@@lifeandThings It's literally not possible to oversample raw video. Or else it wouldnt be raw.
I clicked the like button before watching and wasn't disappointed! yay!
Your work is amazing
This is great. My only question would be 120fps vs 120fps on the 6k and 4K
Are they similar? Or 6k having less moire and jaggies?
Thank you for the great review~! I am, however, interested about the possible comparison between this BM 6k and the upcoming (slightly rumored) sigma fp.
haechi21 sigma is better
@@jadoon702 Haha, this comment didnt age well AT ALL.
Did you say adapt Sony emount lenses to Micro4/3? I didn't think that was possible with M4/3 flange distance being greater than Sony emount. Is there a speedbooster that allows refocusing? If you've done this, please include name of adapter or link, I would love to use this, thank you.
I’m waiting for the 8k version, then I’ll start making films
HAHAHAHAHA
in about a year!
Sam Anderson you will have to wait 2 years
@@demetristokaris3327 Just right after you break down and buy the 6K is when they will have the 8K 😂
I'm ahead of you waiting for the 36K then I can be a filmmaker
Great review Tom, It looks like Blackmagic is taking steps in the right direction- I don't think it would be worth upgrading if you already have the 4K. The 6K also isn't quite a "Pocket" camera anymore.
Haha I don't think any of them a really "pocket" cameras. Unless you wear clown pants
@@TomAntos Very true!
Loved ! Thanks Tom !!! 👍 👏
S35 is smaller then APS-C but you have a Metabones 0.71x booster, which converts it to a full frame equivalent, if you want to convert it to S35 you need the 0.64x booster. Just wanted to throw that in :P Great video tho!
Quick question, can you use the EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 is stm lens on this?
So, people haven’t received their 4K order yet? I would worry about placing an order for the 6k. When would I get it?
Definitely interested. No more 2 cam interview setups unless I go 90 degree angle.
Good review... very much informative... thank you 😘😍
I would have preferred an RF mount. With that we could have had the option of drop in ND filters with the canon adapter.
Fantastic Review - how did you get the sigma 18-35 art at 1.7 on the 6k? I understand how you would hit that with the metabones on the 4k but wouldn’t your fstop be limited to 1.8 on the 6k?
Great video. What camera are you using to record this video review?
Most informed review and comparison so far 🙏🏼😎
THEWORLDISYOURS no you should check out this guy named D....
im wondering, when filming with this, how is the autofocus? let say you suppose to keep track of a snowmobile plowing through the snow. How fast can this keep track of moving objects. Cars, people, bikes and so on? is it Canon Dual pixel focus fast or?
both great options! i had to get both! only 2k for the 6 right now!
I have the P4K and I love it. That said, I consider a Speed Booster to be a near essential purchase, and considering the price of the Metabones products, there's going to be few reasons for anyone not to just go straight for the P6K in future. Both very fine cameras regardless.
Great review Tom, but I would have been excited and pumped if instead BM had came out with a updated bmpcc 4k that had a tilt screen. Why would any aspiring film maker want to shoot a narrative in 6k anyway? Heck, vast majority of Hollywood feature films are shot in 2k. Why do the premier directors and cinematographers drool over and continue to shoot with the Alexa in 1080? Exceptions of course, I'm just saying 6k does not impress or intrigue me one bit.
Great review Tom as always! A note, the power connector on these cameras is NOT Lemo, it is the Weipu SF 610, so prospective buyers beware that existing Lemo gear will not work.
Thank for the tip!
@@TomAntos Of course, thanks for producing great videos. I saw you have a bunch of cameras lined up, are we getting a shootout between BMD, Arri, and Red?
@@playmaka2007 Yes
@@TomAntos Awesome! I'll look forward to that video, I may one day pick up the Pocket 6k as an A cam to use alongside my 4k so I'd love to see it in action!
Hello Tom. Great review as always. Thanks a lot for this works. I have the BMPCC 4K and when I film (or shot? Sorry for my english) in RAW 2K it creates an adicional crop factor because filming in 2K only use half sensor. My cuestion is: If you use the BMPCC 6K but film in RAW 4K, do you get and adicional crop factor or use the whole super 35 sensor en RAW 4K too?
Good job. Cutting through the noise on YT with this hands on review
TORCHY wha? No
Hi Tom, Thanks for your Test BMPCC 4K vs. BMPCC 6K. I don't have the 4K and 6K. But I want to have! The only question is: wich of them... To me: I'm a video journalisms. Often I have to make run and gin videos, sometimes I have a little more time for better pictures. So I have for "run and gun" the Sony Z90. But for the better pictures my BM Mini Ursa 4.6 is to big. But for filming TV the Ursa Mini is too heavy. What ist your opinion? What should I buy? ...4K or 6K...? ( I have 4/3 objectives, also 5x walimex EF 14-85mm and 3x canons. The walimex are not stabiliced. Stabilisation is very important for me!)
first quality review of the 6K on the interweb. thank you sir :)
Wow! Great comprehensive video!
Great review Tom.Like camera specs it has really good features for that price.Easy to use and operate.This is a good step up for blackmagic.And good step for the industry.
Nobody was able to touch good uncompressed RAW footage in the past for less then 30000 usd$.
But if you want to have accurate colors this is not the right choice.If you look carefully in the image you will notice that there is a brownish tint. Like sepia filter applied over the picture.
Check the greenery in these footages. It doesn't look correct.
This is the biggest disadvantage of all blackmagic cameras together with the fixed noise pattern in the dark areas.
For green screen keying is it ideal solution.Low noise in the green channel.Good overexposed and underexposed compensation range.The quality is much better when you overexpose then underexpose the picture.
It is perfect for small production with low budgets looking for professional quality.
If they fix the color space to make it look very close to the reality the other big camera makers are in real trouble. :))) For sure good camera to have it.
As always, excellent review! Thanks, Tom!
It's a shame BlackMagic couldn't license or reverse engineer a larger mirrorless mount.
I think they put the EF mount because so many people requested a smaller camera like their URSA Mini pro... so same size sensor and same mount like the URSA Mini Pro but in a much smaller form factor.
Great video. One quick query regarding IS on the 4K model, does it support Lens IS if mounted either of MFT lens and adapted lens through speed boosters?
I have the same question
Native MFT lenses image stabilisation will work with the 4K, such as the 12-35 from Panasonic. With a Metabones speedbooster, there are certainly some lenses that the IS works on. They provide a list of fully compatible lenses.
The park footage looks insane! Great Review!
It's funny, I just bought the 4k but this video just wants to make me buy the Metabones instead of returning the 4k and getting the 6k. Really don't want the extra 2k
Are you sure about that? 🤔
@@Stefan54 Yup, dont want the extra 2k!
Thanks Tom, great review.