BMPCC 4K & 6K Pro | Avoid Buying The Wrong Media!
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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I got a Bmpcc 4K and this has helped me a lot. Thank you!
Instead of Samsung T5, I opt for an NVMe enclosure with built-in cable that can house whatever M.2 SSD I prefer, like 970 EVO Plus, which is even faster and can be used as a boot drive as well.
May I ask what data rates/compression ratios you can record at? What is the particular enclosure that you use? I have been thinking about trying this. Lately I've had problems recording with conventional 500 gb ssd's in Ugreen enclosures for clips over about 25 minutes at 12:1 30 fps. I believe it's a buffer issue. Thanks!
I found a Visiontek enclosure that's about the size of a vape pen. I then found a PCIe dock I use on my editing rig from ICYdock. I can take my NVMe out of the Visiontek and place it in the ICYdock for blazing speed!!
That’s great but the bmpcc4k is very pocket with those whihc one did you use becuase mine doesn’t work witht he bmpcc4k at all
There are clamps for cables from Smallrig etc that hold the cable very securely, Cfast prices are a joke, you could buy so many useful things with that money.
I use CFAST for hired projects, SSD when I’m shooting for myself.
I've been thinking about switching for a while. I shoot so many weddings and have gone through several USB-C cables. It's starting to cost a little too much to replace them especially the Kondor Blue ones. Those go out pretty quick. Luckily during the failure of one recently, I had a spare close by.
C-Fast just seems like the way to go.
Yeah I keep a T5 in my bag as a back up but CFast is more reliable.
SD cards drop frames
Came here to learn exactly this. Thank you!!
Oh shit, gg bro just got mine
Why does everyone always ignore the 6K. It's always either the 4K or the 6K Pro. Nice video none the less.
ha thanks, I think at the time the 6K was a bit of the odd one out, the G2 has certainly helped.
@@JonathanPalfrey My point remains tho. The 6K is exactly the same camera minus ND filters and screen. As is the case with the G2 yet somehow the 6K is forgotten. It's just curious how people work.
My take on it is that when the 6K came out all the 4K owners got frustrated and decided it wasn't worth the upgrade to justify their investiment in the 4K. Enough time passed when the Pro came out and it was suddenly worth the upgrade.
I had the 4K and got the 6K when it came out. Haven't looked back.
Thanks for the reply and keep up the great work! All the best.
@@TheFilmmakingChannel yeah I know my personal issue with the 6K at the time was the fact they hadn’t upgrade the battery, hence the Pro being more attractive. It was also quite soon after the 4K so I guess a lot of people didn’t feel ready to upgrade.
Thanks a lot for watching!
I believe because it’s comes with built in ND and they did improve battery on the 6k
I use three Samsung 1TB T5 SSDs mounted using Tilta hardware & cables to my three BMPCC4K. Very reliable.
So i have the angelbird 2.0 card reader. Can i use the sandisk extreme pro cfast 2.0 card with it?
I’m sure you can, I do the other way round.
It’s not the attachment they are better than most ads cuz the buffer it allows is bigger than the t7 and the sa disk ssds
I wish the cfast cards were cheaper, good lord they’re overpriced, but thinking about it as a second option for security.
Yeah media is really expensive for cameras now. Fast SD cards are almost the same price too! Price we pay for higher resolutions and quality.
@@JonathanPalfrey yeah, just waiting for all my rig accessories now. Super excited. The Bmpcc 6K g2 is pretty heavy with the sigma 18-35 on it, wasn’t expecting just how heavy
great info, well explained
Hi, I recently got my bpmcc4k, I'm using Samsung T7 SSD. But the problem is somehow I can't record higher resolution than raw 12:1, and the camera keep dropping frames. And the other problem is I can review my footage on camera, but I can't review some of it on my Mac, I'm frustrated. Is it because the camera is second handed? The last owner already broke it or what. Someone help me pls.
Sadly I think T7 drives don’t work.
Does the Sandisk Cfast card you show in the video work with the BMPCC 4K? It is not in the list of the compatible media, but I would like to get one if I know it will work. Has anyone got experience with the Sandisk Cfast and these cameras?
great video man. question, what speeds and size do i need if i'm shooting mostly at Braw, 24 fps, sometimes at 60 fps and at 5:1? thanks
Thanks. I’d go at least 256gb, also shooting Q5 will give you just as good quality, maybe better, while much smaller file sizes.
@@JonathanPalfrey thanks bud
have my order for the BMPCC 6k G2 lined up, and decided it to get the T7 Shield 2TB now it's on the BMD approved media list. Just wish there was a holder that fit this SSD.
Is T7 shield SSD working well? I gonna likely buy same camera you have and same ssd...
@@dreamsandrealms4581 haven’t got the camera yet but once I’ve tested it I’ll let you know
@@quiztasiarocks got any updates?
@@donndior1536 yep so far it’s good. I’ve only tested up to 6K 8:1, but never had a dropped frames. I think you might have issues at 3:1 or Q0 but that’s it.
@@quiztasiarocks Oh, do you think this would also work on the 6k non g2?
good video. thanks for the helpful information.
I have 2 words for you on your ssd rant, Tilta cage. Also, the SSD drive will NOT handle the full data the pocket 6k can deliver, not sure any available storage device can
Paid 740 with the taxes for my 1tb cfast. Never looked back. I still record on the on he Samsung t5s as I have multiple cameras and one cfast. However I have to to shoot with multiple cords at my disposal for backup and it can certainly be a pain if one goes out in middle of shoot. Hope to switch to all cfast in the near future.
Backup sd card is great idea.
Does the SSD do all the things the Cfast does but with less reliability due to the cable? Can it do the high bit rates and frame rates?
nevermind, rewatched the video to see if i just blanked out during that section and apparently I did, lol
T5 and t7 works completely fine even at full 6K Q0 , just update firmware
Interesting... I tried Q0 6K 60fps with the T5 and T7 and the past and it wouldn't keep up and time out. Did the latest firmware make the difference in this? I didn't notice anything in the release notes addressing this.
@@srandall31 aparently yes, 7.9, and now they relesed 7.9.1 where added some ssd devices uptades. Idk man. All of this is very frustating cuz t5 are globally discontinued
With the shield or standard t7?
Try the SanDisk E61... 1TB is $82 and 2TB is $119. 1050MB/s read and 1000MB/s write speeds, so even faster than the T5
@@GameUnkasa No body looking for faster than needed, better to prefer secure and stabile.
I do love the T5 option but yeah Cfast all the way. If only they allowed NVME drives to be used... I hate the price gauging of Cfast.
Hi there, Ive just purchased a komputerbay cf card 256gb for £175 so ill get back to everyone once Ive tested it out
They do but you need at cfast to nvme adapter
Can i record with different settings on different media at the same time ? Example: B-Raw on SSD and Video on the CFast ? With my BM Cinema 4k.
No just one at a time sadly
I'm going CFast. It's expensive but small. I have the Samsung T5 and I don't care what they say, it's just too bulk especially with a rig and cables. The 6K Pro is a dreadfully unbalanced camera and a rig inhibits creativity and portability. Life and action happens inn realtime so speed wins everytime.
Yeah it's nice to have the option to record on SSD however I don't think it should be your primary recording media.
@@JonathanPalfrey is 100% right.
I used to do that, and it cost me dearly on a shoot. Bought some CFast and never looked back.
My USB-C port failed during an interview and my SD card couldn't sustain the rest of the time.
I can’t find in the comments. Is there no way to record to CFAST and SSD at the same time?
Sadly not, perhaps they will in a future camera.
can you film on your bmpcc4k with the cfast card a resolution of 4k 60 fps with braw?? thanks
Yeah no problem shooting 4k 60fps with CFast.
@@JonathanPalfrey in braw?
@@javiolartegutierrez7728 yeah I shoot 6K BRAW at 60p all the time on the 6K Pro without a problem. 4K BRAW is about half the data rate
@@JonathanPalfrey thnks really apreciate!
Has anyone used the t7 shield on the bmpcc 4k? I know the t7 regulars did not work, But now that they have discontinued the t5 I'm looking for other options.
Yes the T7 Shield works well. I have a 2TB myself, I believe they're one of the better ones to use
Has anyone tried the cfast to nvme it hibk it would be more reliable than a jsut striwght enclosure any luck?
Why are cameras still using cfast instead of cfexpress when the later is faster and cheaper?
To be fair when the 4k launched cfexpress wasn’t out. It’s frustrating how many different card types there’s been in the past 10 years. XQD came and went far too fast as well as Cfast.
@@JonathanPalfrey Was the CF Express out before the 6k?
@@nathancasey7712 not sure but I guess they wanted to stick to the same card type so they could re use the same internals.
It would be nice to see a new 6K Pro soon with RF or E mount, perhaps using a more modern battery type and cfexpress
@@JonathanPalfrey And better internal NDS plus less rolling shutter that would be a dream
Does anybody have frame drop issues when recording with cfast? I never had that problem when using ssd in the past
CFast should be fastest than most SDDs so I’d be surprised by any frame dropping issues.
If it’s new it might be worth returning it as it could be a faulty card
You have to format it twice apparently
Can you edit from cfast?
I probably could however I wouldn't recommend it. They get very hot when being accessed.
Smallrig have a SSD holder with cable protector/lock (SmallRig 2343 Universal SSD holder). Still looking for a cable lock for the BMPCC 4k, but at least one side is yank proof.
Yeah we had a cable lock for the tilta cage. The actual cable had a screw in it so you could ensure both ends were secure. However even with that the bending and knocking of the cable eventually caused it to fail.
@@JonathanPalfrey I have the SmallRig half cage. The new Black Mamba cage for my GH6 has an awesome cable lock, but that half cage for the BMPCC4k unfortunately not.
Beautiful video...thank y...
How do you format the SSD for BMPC4K, OS extended or EXFAT?
Exfat if you use windows OS extended if you use Mac
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