Exploring Panic! At The Disco's "A Fever You Can't Sweat Out" Era
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - patron shoutout
0:15 - intro
5:32 - origins of panic!
9:02 - ryan ross’s livejournal account
10:11 - panic!’s first demos
13:03 - panic! gets signed to pete wentz’s record label Decaydance Records
22:15 - panic!’s touring history during the Fever era
33:39 - a fever you can’t sweat out sales / chart history
40:58 - review / analysis of a fever you can’t sweat out
48:26 - brent wilson gets ousted, jon walker enters
51:44 - panic! and fever’s impact on the scene as a whole, positive and negative
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Hey! Thanks for checkin' out this video. Just so everyone knows, I will be doing my first ever Livestream on RUclips next week! It will be a counterpart to this video, it will be a deep dive into Ryan Ross's 2004 LiveJournal account :) it's emo gold for anyone who doesn't know and I'll be reading the whole thing on stream.
The Stream will take this upcoming Wednesday, August 11th at 7:00 PM Eastern Standard Time. Right here on my RUclips Channel!
If you miss it, I will be reposting it so you can watch later but it would be awesome to have people come hang out with me in the chat :)
Thanks everyone!!
DUDE! Where can I find that FOB video with Patrick wearing the blue shirt @ 13:22 ? Been looking for that one for a long time man.
i hope youll post the vod after! i wont be around at that time but all the old livejournals, both ryans and petes are very interesting to me
i would kill to have another panic album written by ryan
Called A Fever You Still Can't Sweat Out. Wish Brendon would just pick up the phone like, yo! Let's give it another go
@@GlynTaylor more like ryan needs to pick up the phone ahaha, but after what he went through i would probably be the same
right he is an amazing writer!!
His writing is incredible
Idkhow but they found me?
Ryan wrote a fever you can’t sweat out at 17 🤯
That’s wild man
"Hey how are you"
"Good just working on a paper for english"
Imagine wtf was going through Ryan's head right then
would definitely love a video in this style about the pretty odd era. sure everyone loves a fever. such a classic. but at the pretty odd album, thats where peoples opinions go in vastly different directions
Hell yeah - I actually got into Panic through PO lol
I hated it first and then grew to love it deep in my heart
Straight-up though!! You start to see Ryan go all left-field with that woodsy acid-trip Beatles vibe. I find myself experiencing a sudden craving for a lengthy piece of commentary on the drama behind all that, and the successive breakup.
I agree!
You know what's weird about P.O? There seemed to be no in fighting. Like before bands break up there's alot of tension onstage or awkward interviews, passive aggressive comments ect. But with Panic they were together touring in 08 P.O released, then 09 they split off and the New Perspective/Vice's era starts.
Ryan really had a very unique approach to songwriting that I very much miss. Still hoping he’ll keep releasing more music with his new projects
going thru these comments and im sickeningly jealous of everyone who was able to experience peak emo
me too 😭 it makes me want to cry LMFAO
I blame my parents for not birthing me earlier and being a literal infant during this time.
same lmao i wish i was born in like 1990 so i could’ve experienced this
SAME i was in middle school if only i had been born like 5 years earlier😭
Ha! Speaking from someone who was there (graduated high school in 2006), it was pretty awesome. That whole era was really fun and felt like being a part of something. Going to Warped Tour, the whole integration of MySpace with the music scene was also really cool. Very different vibes than how it is with social media now. My friends and I had our own little band as well and admittedly weren’t very good but we sure had a blast playing tiny shows. That being said I’m sure you all will have your own fond memories you look back on in the same way! It’s just hard to see when you’re in it. As long as you’re having fun that’s all that really matters.
The fact that they had a tiny budget, they were only 18 years old and they had Pete Wentz and FBR kind of rolling the dice on them, and this was the album they made is actually pretty unbelievable. When your first time ever in a studio results in a genre-defining, culture-shifting record, you clearly did something right.
Their first album is literally flawless I never skip one song lol
This album shaped me as a person
YES
i wish you mentioned that ryan told him my band is better than yours when he sent the demos 😭 it’s so iconic lol
omfg ryan was really that bitch
In my opinion A Fever You Can't Sweat Out is the most unique pop punk album of its era and probably ever made. It's my favorite album of all time. It got me into music and is the reason I am who I am today
i still wonder what would've happened with patd had ryan been the vocalist and kept the name. i really enjoyed his singing whenever we could get it, mostly through live concert videos (or the nothing rhymes with circus dvd), so it kind of left a bad taste in the mouth when the band split. even more so because it was widely accepted that he was the genius behind their successful songs.
and you're right, people used to shit on panic fans so much lmao, it was pretty crazy negative environment in general, even within the fandom.
The fact that Brendon and Spencer kept the name without telling Jon and Ryan makes it all the more bitter imo. I guess we all wonder what it could have been.
I genuinely think that panic! wouldn't have blown up as much with Ryan as lead singer. He honestly doesn't have the chops to stick out, as great as his lyricism can be. I mean take a look at the Young Veins and how well that turned out.
They knew they were keeping it going. They were already scheduled to tour with Blink 182 so they knew Brendon and Spencer were continuing.
Ryan was the lyricist but they all wrote the music together and had Brendon’s voice. Without all of them there would not have been the demos they had and there would’ve never been a band to begin with. None of us would know of any of them if they hadn’t met.
Ryan has a really good voice however brendons deeper sound and fast vibrato is what made panic stand out in the emo scene
I think the story was that Ryan got sick and brendon took over the main vocals during practice and that’s when they realized how good he was.
What’s interesting about all the different instruments in the songs is none of them knew how to play them so they got a middle school band to come in and play each note individually and put them all together to sound how they wanted it to
haha yes youre right!! totally forgot about that. so crazy lol
wow
Source?
I love that you made the point that Ryan was 18 or so when he wrote those lyrics. That fact always blows my mind. Damn, how I wish he was still in the band.
That Nails for Breakfast demo is SO GOOD, way better than the album release IMO
I like both versions but I agree the demo is amazing
And the Casimado demo to is harder than the album version
the time to dance demo 😩
What I would give for another Ryan Ross written Panic! at the disco album today : / Also this was such a great video btw! Absolutely god tier album, I wish I could relive these glory days.
Vices and Virtues still a strong contender. A lot of it was inspired by the first album.
worth mentioning that even though Brent Wilson was the bassist, all the bass on Fever was played by Brendon.
That album has the most catchiest lines in it
Ryan Ross created the perfect band and I will forever be thankful for that
what you were saying about ryan's lyrics and being inspired by literature and really intelligent... honestly if it weren't for ryan ross & pete wentz, i probably wouldn't have gotten as into literature as i am. what with their lyrics the way they were, references to books and obscure movies (closer, anyone?) and pete's dog hemingway... definitely paved the way for me as a classic literature lover and influenced heavily the way i write today
Definitely! me and my grade 7 friends would lend eachother hemingway and chuck pahalniuk and talk about our fave lyrics to put on myspace XD
could you recommend any literature you particularly like, I've been meaning to read more especially since I love Ryan's writing style
@@dicksdrugsanddebutantes9305 Well he has a lot of references to Chuck Palaniuk in Fever, so he's a good start! Personally I love early-mid 20th century so Hemingway, Salinger, Jean Rhys, Jack Kerouac, William Faulkner, Charles Bukowski, Richard Carver are some faves of mine. Ryan's writing is really particular so these aren't exactly like that but just the route I went!
@@artemisamory thank you for the recommendations! I'll take a look at those :)
i remember in sophomore year i was reading palahniuk and my teacher was like oh you're so advanced and cultured for your age and i was internally like ma'am plsss this is all me being ryan ross trash
ryan ross was a visionary and the rest of them could play instrumetns. thats my take
I went to middle school and high school with Brendon . Grew up around the corner from eachother. Can confirm the summer league was terrible pop punk lol, there was this band they played with called “September star” that became “the higher” and man, it was bad
Brendon always super talented, in middle school out band teacher mr Matta was pretty hyped on him
Wow thats so cool!!
Brendon wasn't in Summer League tho??
You always mention in your videos that pop punk died off in 2010, but I’d argue you’re wrong. I remember going into 9th grade in 2013 and all my friends were still into my chemical romance, panic at the disco, fall out boy, etc. The bands might have started to die out around that time but I would say it was pretty popular until 2015. At least in my experience 🤷🏾♀️
it's still just about the most popular genre among teens and 20 something's at my job even now.
In my experience that’s when I started seeing Emo dying off. Around 2011 or so. People switched to rap or dubstep or edm around that time. I started listening to edm and rap around that time and ditched the Emo look and everything with it. It was old news by then
I was there!! For everything! That circus tour was insane!
im so jealous! i didnt see that tour, i never caught them live till 2008 when they were on their beatles shit haha
I would literally give anything to see the nothing rhymes with circus tour omg.
Me too! My mom took me and she was even on the floor with me. Still have a tour t shirt sonewhere.
you are so insanely lucky
When I was in highschool my French teacher had some family in Vegas who were friends with some of Brents family.
My teacher said a year or so after Brent was kicked out of Panic! He showed up at some gathering and was still pretty broken up about it- got WASTED.
He said, and I quote, "the guy was an absolute mess that night. I just hope he's doing better now"
you have no idea how much i appreciate your videos as someone who got into scene/pop punk music after its “golden era.” i was in middle school in 2011 when i discovered bands like patd, etc. and it’s so so cool to learn what it was like in the scene when these bands were starting out and later at their peak. you have a talent for storytelling & research and it rlly shows in your videos, ty for sharing 💫
I remember so vividly coming across Fall Out Boy on FuseTV when I was getting ready for school one morning in early 2006. I was 13 and was discovering what kind of music I really loved and I have never so instantly fell in love with music as I did when I heard “Sugar, We’re Going Down”. I think within the span of a week after hearing FOB, I had fell down a rabbit hole of music on RUclips and discovered Panic! At the Disco, From First To Last, Gym Class Heroes, Underoath, The Used, Green Day & My Chemical Romance. IN ONE WEEK. Here I am, just turned 29, and “A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out” is still in my top 5 favorite albums. Nothing makes me happier than the music from the 2004-2006 era in the emo/pop punk/screamo genres. I still have my Rolling Stone magazines with the PATD & FOB covers (and the matching posters 😂).
I remember when Panic popped off, they came out of nowhere! I was playing in a melodic metalcore band around that time, the whole alternative music scene was absolutely amazing in those days. Hard to believe all this was 20 years ago, makes me feel old as heck.
This album is truly iconic and arguably one of the best to come out of the 00s emo scene .
Ryan’s lyrics and Brendons voice was truly an amazing combination ..
Still unbelievable that Ryan wrote this album when he was a teenager 😩
I like panics later work , I got into them around 2010 so I was a fan for the release and V&v etc and while I do enjoy those later albums, there’s just something missing without Ryan !
i didn’t realise how electronic it was at first in the demos , i’m glad they kept some of the electronic feel like in time to dance
never clicked so fast!! I still remember finding afycso in a charity shop for £1 when I was 14 and I was OBSESSED and honestly, I still am
I listened to this album so much in 8th grade when it came out and still do to this day. Nothing panic every made after this album even came close. I was so disappointed when pretty odd came out. A fever is such a classic and legendary.
wow so crazy how opinions can vary, pretty odd became my favorite album, afycso right after ahaha
@@nistiel324 yeah idk overall I don’t hate it but I think the drastic style change was a big turn off for me. I loved the style they had going in fever. Wish they made another album with that similar vibe.
@@brett5569 definitely agree. i just love the vibe from pretty odd (especially as a beatles fan), but i would love seeing another a fever-type album cause its just so unique and ryans writing is incredible
@@nistiel324 it’s a shame Ryan doesn’t really do much. He did the 2 panic albums and the 1 young veins album right?
@@brett5569 he’s actually making music still! he doesnt have anything solo but he makes music with Z Berg (all their music is under her name) just search up Z Berg & Ryan Ross on youtube and you’ll find it :)
This album is close to my heart, I was 5 when it came out, my dad bought the CD (I got my Emo-ness from my dad) and now at 22 years old, I still carry that cd in my car and it has NO SCRATCHES. I still jam to it often. Never gets old.
Goddammit I love this channel! I am a 36yr old guy that started his journey in grade school buying Blink 182s album "dude ranch". The comedy, and cathartic songs and harmonies set me on a tear to find all the pop punk I could. Once in high school, bands like taking back Sunday, saves the day, brand new, coheed, mxpx, relient k, Halifax, etc defined my skater, hurley, puma, volcom lifestyle. This music was/is life, and this channel gives us all something to be proud of! No matter how big emo/pop punk got, it really was all of us against the world! We are always united and I love you all my brothers and sisters of the scene! This music made life worth living!
Agreed! From a 31 year old lol
@@kaitschmidt452 hell yes!!!! Hey, it was hard making sure ya got to warped tour every summer as a kid! Now, still being a big fan of all the progenitors of this style of music, I was worried I'd be seen as a creepy old dude with too many tattoos! Great to see some more 30s support!!!!!!!!
@@nickygoods131 not to be cliche, but it's not a phase!
@@kaitschmidt452 you are 💯 correct! I feel very lucky to still keep up with groups like: new found glory, alkaline trio, and blink 182 amongst many others. Some of the albums of old i.e. albums about high school etc, didn't "age" as well, but we're very lucky to grow with those bands! They have kids, we may have kids or be thinking about settling down to have kids, we get married, have careers and so on. It really is a style of music that at one point may have seemed really juvenile. However, it can grow with you throughout your life. P.S. your Avatar cracks me up, she looks so stoked!!!! LoL 😆🤘
you said it!!!
I was 12 or 13 when this album came out. I still remember being in HMV with my mum and I asked if she could buy me the album, then rushing home to listen to it ASAP and learn all the lyrics. I often wonder what direction the band would have gone in had Ryan had stayed. And it's sad what has happened to Brent. This took me right back, I really enjoyed this, Great job.
Feels crazy to have been a part of this all during its actual time. It's like what I experienced on the internet is being retold but also the feeling that it was a universal experience for many is one that is hard to put into words. Thank you so much. Ryan Ross forever!!!
I’m only five minutes in, but I’m so pumped. You make me feel young again lol
I first heard I Write Sins Not Tragedies in a little snippet of the music video in the credits of some random show on MTV-I grew up in a very rural area and was still using the slowest dial up in 2005 and hadn’t heard of them on the radio. From that small snippet of the chorus I knew I needed to hear the whole thing and begged a boy at my school to “burn a CD” for me and he got me the whole A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out album.
16 years later, I’m almost 30 and this is still my favorite album of all time. Idk what it is about it, but I can listen to the whole thing over and over again and never get sick of it.
Anyway, thanks for the awesome video and little dose of nostalgia and serotonin to get me through my mundane work day lol
Same! One of my favorite albums. I was a teenager when it came out. I absolutely loved it & still do. Sounds so innovate & ahead of their time for 2005.
I grew up in this era and I remember staying up with a friend to catch any PATD music video on Fuse, VH1, or MTV. Every now and then I spin that album for nostalgia. It’s hard looking at how all my favorite bands growing up turned out though :(
MOOOORE
Ahhh! Noah!?!? So happy to see you here (,:
hi noah
I have a incredibly low attention span due to my autism but this video kept my attention the whole time, everything is incredibly well worded and i really enjoy the informative but unscripted feel of the video. Definitely subbing :]
thanks so much!! :)
i would LOVE a pretty odd version of this video and i’m sure others would too. it’s my favorite album of all time and i find it so fascinating and would love a deep dive into everything around the album
Pretty Odd is everything!
I'm gonna die on the hill that ryan ross was a better vocalist than brendon. I wanna live in the timeline where he got to sing his own lyrics, lmao
im with you!!!
I'm sorry, I love him too but he was so bad back then and could barely sing on key. Ryan is better now but back then he sounded so bad live and he absolutely has no where near the vocal chops or range. His tone is unique and he is a decent singer but he is definitely not a great vocalist.
💀 Live in Denver was pitch corrected too btw
👀
No
yes please do a continuation about pretty. odd. and the split of ryan & jon!!! ryan ross supremacy
One of my favorite eras and album from this band. I so remember in 2006 when their video "I write sins not tragedies" came out on mtv I've watched that video every morning before school started. (I was 9/10) and became a fan since. And was a huge ryan ross fan obviously. You're right they were geniuses with everything they put into with songwriting and being theatrical. It makes me sad we won't have something like that again. They were one of a kind "emo burlesque" band and no one can top that. Legends!
I remember listening to that original demo version of Time to Dance on repeat... I still prefer it to the album version! What a remarkable time to watch this band go from a hype myspace underground thing through to pop culture icons. As an album it still holds up so damn well. It's hard to imagine that a bunch of high schoolers could create such an iconic piece of music.
so thankful for how much you highlight ryan. he's such an unsung hero of panic and i wish so badly he had brendon's recognition now
I went to that Take Cover tour in October of 2005 in Providence, RI. My friends and I were super bummed to hear that Panic! was no longer the opener but decided to go in early to check out their replacement on tour...it was Paramore.
I remember being like 14 on a weekend trip with my team and having the CD in my little no-skip walkman and I listened to that album again and again and again in order until I fell asleep and then again and again the next day. Wild how much work we had to do to access music back then. I had a headphone splitter so my friend listened with me for parts of the trip. Now I’m in my early thirties and can still start singing the start of the next song after one ends before it even starts, can’t listen to it on shuffle. What a time to come of age.
my god i’ve been binging this album for the past week and bam this vid comes out!
the stars aligned! lmao
Loved original Panic! Saw them live 4 times? in 2006 lol. Ryan Ross was my favorite. Good times.
wow thats cool
one detail you left out was that the band was also named burn down the disco at one point before they landed on panic at this disco, i believe ryan said on a early interview, but still a really good video!!
Also came here to comment that I would be SO excited to see a series on Panic!’s evolution. The pretty odd era in itself is super interesting and I cannot say enough how cool it would be to see a deep dive !
One could say the era was… p r e t t y o d d
Love this album, there’s so much interesting stuff crammed into those songs and it’s a very artistically mature and forward thinking album. It feels kind of weird looking back and realizing that they were only 2-3 years older than me, haha. I do enjoy a lot of The Brendon Show later stuff, but Ryan was such a unique talent and they really tapped into something special with this album that neither they nor anyone else has really achieved since.
Anyway, great video. I’m gonna try to make the stream, I was a huge livejournal kid so it’s sure to be a hoot.
man, i always forget how much i LOVE this album. i also just realized that i write sins not tragedies was definitely my first ever connection to emo/pop punk music.... i was 5 years old singing along to it in Singstar Pop for the PS2 with my cousin! since i loved it then, i revisited it when i was like 13 in 2015, and got into the rest of panic's music. it's essentially the foundation of everything i listen to today :) the impact this specific album has had is insaaaane!!!
also, i only ever have positive things to say about your videos!! thank you for making them :)
Loved that game, I thank that game for getting me into MCR
Great video! I remember this being popped into the CD player in the van those first few weeks on tour, and it just being the most infectious earworm I’ve ever experienced before or since. Like I couldn’t sleep, it was so catchy! Loved hearing your side of it.
Do a history of MCR
Wow hearing those demos again 😍
you should really do one of these types of videos on vices and virtues!!!
YEEEESSSSS this has been my favourite album for over 15 years, it has become part of my soul aha. I have probably played the cd in my car 10000 times
From shows at Jillians in an arcade in downtown Las Vegas to fucking Broadway. Urie came a long way man. As a Vegas kid, who's first show was the Higher, Brown Eyed Deception, and Panic At The Disco in 2002, it's been a fucking journey.
Saw them live in 2017 absolutely amazing, would have killed to see the nothing rhymes w circus tour!
Also!! Awesome and informative vid as always!
Wow I’m just now realizing upon rewatching this that squire really saved and immortalized the fever you can’t sweat out era of panic! by making that call about keeping the first half of the album aligned with their original sound… I wonder how much more similar to pretty odd it would have been without him
after ryan left the band shit would never be the same and now we can tell why
that guy is such a clever and sensitive artist and matching with spencer the guys were so advanced and mature in a such young age
brendon vocals were already so powerful as well
it definetly was a magic era for the scene and for the music in 2000's
gonna watch the pretty odd video right now but i have already subscribed to the channel because this video are very fun and informative! great work!
Bought their album on CD before they even had any music videos out. I was lucky to find this band very very early....
i’m the same age as the panic dudes and i was in high school when they started getting popular on myspace. that’s crazy. they were babies when they blew up. i could be wrong but it seems like they were the first band to blow up on the internet the way they did.
i loved both albums so much... brendon's voice and ryan's lyrics will always be a combination of the decade.
The timing of this video is incredible, because you posted it right when I happened to pick AFYCSO up again and dive back in full force 😂 this album has such a cool history and I’m so glad you shared!
Ryan Ross; after he left
The band became the whole Bredon Urie show.
Aw man I forgot about The Summer League, even though I was waiting for a mention of Pet Salamander^^
My man is really nailing the Kurt Travis look. The stache is a good look
The fact this album came out in 2005 has jump-started my mid-life crisis
i never comment on yt videos but this got recommended to me on my home feed and im so thankful bc nobody talks about /appreciates this album enough
Also if you could,, maybe make a future video on the lost crickets and clover album that would be cool
I used to talk to brendon on Aim all the time. His screename was “aboynamedskip” - he would send me tracks he loved. Believe by Cher was one of them haha. Good times. His screename was up on pure volume before they got signed.
OMFG YES IVE BEEN WAITING YEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS THANK YOU COZY!!!!!!!!
This is literally my favorite band in the entire world other then dgd I’m so happy i feel like imma exploded this album is my entire life 😍
Dance Gavin Dance gets me
My gf was going to shows and even a Warped Tour catering employee for a number of years. She met Pete Wentz and many other musicians from that era up to the early 2010s. The stories are amazing, embarrassing and hilarious. Being employed and traveling with Warped Tour was a ride and I’m still finding new gems she hasn’t thought of yet lol. She also talks about her Live Journal occasionally to this day.
why am i 25 years old and still crying about the academy is... breakup? please explain.
I've been waiting on this one bro!!!
i've been waiting to see a video like this for so long and now it's finally here! thank u Julian!
YES! I’ve been watering for a vid like this for a while. Thank you so much for covering it bro.
I do believe that an underoath video is due
yesyesyesyes i've been waiting for a video like this on one of my all time fav albums omg
Been asking for this for about a year. Can’t wait!!
Loving this channel! Thank you so much for these videos
Yooooo, fuck, those purevolume demos are how I first found the band 😭😭
You got me reliving shit
This video is the first I’ve ever seen from you and it was super interesting and well made! Super excited to check your other stuff :)
THIS VIDEO WAS SO GREAT!! i'd love to see more like it
this was so well done!! you really did your research man i dig it
Love this tons. Would really like to see you continue it on so we get a full history.
Keep up the great work man!
this video is amazing!! 40 mins in an enjoying it so much, just subscribed!
I miss watching this channel again. Thank you for the vid
I really love this video, there's so much in this little enclave of an album/era that is so easy to forget or not care about, so interesting
I was too young to really be a part of the scene when fever can out (I would have been in kindergarten or 1st grade, lol!) but they had so much influence and longevity between then and the first time I actually connected with their music that I turned out to be an emo anyway. Super refreshing to find other scene kids/emos making stuff about the scene that I missed out on, usually people just shit on it or comment on how it was a fleeting trend. This stuff definitely made an impact!
your enthusiasm and positivity is overwhelmingly contagious. i love your videos. excited to see whats next
This is the first video I’ve seen from your channel and I’m hooked! I would love a video on the pretty odd era (:
Thanks so much for putting this together, Ive never seen that last clip and its just cool to see how other bands in the scene viewed Panic!
wow i cant imagine the effort and research that went into this! didnt know i needed this video essay until i saw it in my recommended lol :))))
This was such a fun, well researched video, I would love to see similar ones for each of the other eras of panic!
Loved this! Would love to see more videos about the rest of the history of Panic