SOMALILAND | A First Recognition?
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- On 1 January 2024, Ethiopia and Somaliland signed a significant agreement granting Ethiopia access to the Red Sea in exchange for potential recognition of Somaliland's independence. The deal is seen as a momentous development for Somaliland, which has been internationally isolated since declaring independence from Somalia three decades ago. But is it the crucial breakthrough that will lead to broader recognition and even UN membership?
Located in the Horn of Africa, Somaliland has a population of around 6 million, predominantly ethnically Somali and Sunni Muslim. Its modern history involves a short-lived independence in 1960, followed by a problematic union with Italian Somaliland, leading to conflicts and eventual reclamation of independence in 1991. Despite building a stable state with democratic institutions, Somaliland struggled for recognition. The recent agreement with Ethiopia, while celebrated by Somalilanders, raises legal and political questions. Although the deal implies recognition, the exact terms remain undisclosed, and Ethiopia has not officially acknowledged Somaliland. The agreement's potential geopolitical consequences, including strained relations with Somalia, are significant. Somalia strongly opposes the deal and has hinted at military options, complicating the situation. While many in Somaliland rejoice, Ethiopia's recognition may face obstacles due to geopolitical complexities and may not necessarily lead to broader international acceptance of Somaliland. Despite initial optimism, the deal's long-term impact remains uncertain.
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VIDEO CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction and Titles
00:52 Somaliland and Recognition in International Relations
02:21 Somaliland: Location and Population
03:06 The Modern History of Somaliland
04:57 Somaliland’s Search for Recognition: From Colony to State
06:43 The Ethiopia-Somaliland Memorandum of Understanding
07:37 Has Ethiopia Recognised Somaliland?
09:27 Somalia's Response to the Ethiopia-Somaliland MoU
11:40 International Reactions to the Memorandum
14:09 Somaliland's Crucial Breakthrough?
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President of Somalia
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The 1 January agreement between Ethiopia and Somaliland has been hailed as a breakthrough. Many hope it will open the way to Somaliland’s international acceptance. But do you think Ethiopia really will go through with recognition? And, if it does, will we see other African countries follow? And what about wider international recognition? As always, I look forward to your thoughts and comments below.
If Ethiopia really supported independence, they would have used the full name in the agreement and other little signals like that. No, I don't see this leading to a recognized Somaliland, to many variables and uncertainties and in general people don't like change especially into an unknown. these are objective observations and don't reflect my personal desires.
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Can you cover the genocide trial at the International Court of Justice?
The case of Somaliland is in line with the uti possidetis principle of AU chater and the committee nominated by ex-AU chairman late Alfa Omer Kanore in 2005 proved in their report that the recognition of Somaliland is legal and harmony with the colonial borders of Africa.So, Somaliland has the right to sign huge agreements like DP World and this red sea deal.
This deal strengthening the legitimacy of Somaliland existence. This is win-win approach.Ethiopia doesn't violate the charter of AU.
SOMALIA infriges the AU and the international law because it imposters Somaliland Republic. This is crime.
Thanks Prof. James.
Somaliland have wright to get full recognition in the world
born and raised in somaliland and live in canada but i go back alot and seeing my home country from young and just 10 years so much changed, so many new buildings, malls and changed infurstructre gives me more hope. that one day we will be recognized coz the world bank didnt help us. and no one even looked at us but us somalilanders had so much love for our country and built it to where it is today
The international community has spent hundreds of billions on Somalia in the last 35 years and its still a mess. Somaliland didnt get a fraction of that and is doing relatively well. Somaliland deserves recognition.
Don't lie
Ethiopia unfairly landlocked and Somaliland unjustly unrecognized can solve each others biggest obstacles and promote progress in the region becoming superpowers with good strategic location its time to set somaliland free from the burden holding it back
somaliland didnt need handouts it worked hard while being disadvantaged @@user-lh1jl1bq7p
@@cushitic173isaaq tribe cannot have their own country
somaliland has many tribes that support it samaroon/gadabursi isse gaboye madibhan warsangeli gurgura fiqishini etc dont spread propaganda @@oamaer
I was really looking forward to Somaliland episode
Thanks. I'll be keen to hear your thoughts.
Somaliland is a state of Somalia.
Somaliland was recognised before Somali so go and learn the history
you are in dream @@shafsteryellow
@G36-Strelok 😂😂😂 Keep telling yourself lies
No matter what, Somaliland will be recognised soon , viva Somaliland
Will never happen. somalia is one forever.
@@SomaHosteForever Unstable Chaos Government forever
@@SomaHosteSomalia is 5 that’s what the star stand for ? Don’t be a loser
Keep drinking darling
No way, soon will be crusched. think soo. somali State is very strong now with a Turkish trained . Forces,
Somaliland land of good people, we love you.
From ethiopia.
Somaliland’s recognition as an independent state by everybody and the UN is long overdue tbh
I think many observers would agree. The question is whether the agreement with Ethiopia will be the first step towards that.
😂 No it's not. It's a part of Somalia stop being silly
@@JamesKerLindsaywhat about oromia? Fano? Tigray? Ogaden?
@@shafsteryellowit hasn’t for over 3 decades
You drank too much Kool Aid to believe that narrative.
😂😂😂😂
Somalliland is in full control of our own territory and border. Somaliland wasn't built on begging. We shed blood, sweat and tears to be the independent successful country we are today and can negotiate and co operate with any country in the World. There is absolutely nothing Somalia can do because we made it clear that we are not part of them!!!
What about SSC?
@@amiirnuur4430In the north, the most people are talking about brothers, ssc is ours, it is 1 district, it is inside us because it is in the colonial camp 1960 26june
@@amiirnuur4430 xuduudka caalamiga ah qabiiL laguma bedelo wll sikasta hadii loo dagaalamo xuduudkay ayey kujiraa reer laascaanod waxa laga hadlayaa maaha qabiiL wllo waxa laga hadlayaa labadii state ee midoobay dhulbahante halkui raacsanaa berigaa ayuunbaa maanya la raacinayaa,
@cabdalacawilyoohiye3 shoodhe waxaan ka hadlayaa qabiil ma aha ee dad Somaliland ka mid ah in a maamulkaa diidanyihiin (SSC), sida dad jamguuriyada Somalia ka mid ah u diidanyihiin Somalia (waana Somaliland). Come to the reality com on
Prof. James, thank you for putting that together.
It amazes me that Somaliland had 5 presidents. Multiple free and fair elections by international standards while to the east, Somalia didn’t have a single one man one vote since 1960s, to the northeast Djibouti is still run by the same dictator for over 30 years and to the west Ethiopia had 1 prime minister running Ethiopia for over 30 years until his death.
Yet these countries are somehow so entitled and took for granted that UN card.
Somaliland’s denial is nothing short of denying our people’s right to exist.
Great point about Democracy the international community is borderline cult like when it comes too promoting " Democracy " yet Somaliland isn't recognized makes zero sense and is hypocritical
Somaliland is not a democracy. It is broken down along ethnic lines and one ethnic group (isaaq) and they dominate they government to the exclusion of other ethnic groups.
It is telling that the land the isaaq government offered to Ethiopia was land belonging to a rival ethnic group. This sparked protests in the port town which up to 100,000 people attended.
Somaliland isn’t this peaceful democracy.
Shhh you can't speak of dhulbahante either. @@second2none914
I am not supporting recognition of Somaliland I am living boorama Capital of Awdal region I am supporting Union flag of Somalia we are already rejected memorandum understanding of Ethiopia and Somaliland
What do you mean that somalia has never head a one man one vote since 1960?😮😮
Somaliland has been independent for 35years its time the world to recognize as a country
Somalialand now fight each other for the last few months n they president his term finish 2 yrs ago but anyone who's saying anything he put in jail is bean 7yrs now n somalialand in war each other last 4 months so there's no peace
SNM told you a lie for 35 years
@@mazatoshi7501
Faqash can’t stop Republic of Somaliland recognition. It’s coming sooner than you thought
@@amuse5695 i don’t talk like you because you are ignorant about the history with our arch enemy Ethiopia, , remember ssc khaatumo had been established , awdal land will be next, after that we will send snm beyond our borders.
@@mazatoshi7501 England has been telling a lie for the last 33 years. The brave Dhulbahante has beaten, , the same people who beat the English 😀😀
Somaaliland is good country and all the people of somaliland are sporting this country long live somaliland
Thank you for sharing us and to the world. We thank you as Somalilanders.
Ethopia and Somaliland are good friends, hope we will get recognition Soon
Ethiopia unfairly landlocked and Somaliland unjustly unrecognized can solve each others biggest obstacles and promote progress in the region becoming superpowers with good strategic location its time to set somaliland free from the burden holding it back
Ethiopia previous Leaders Made mistake and Land locked after Eritrea independece , you could have left small Access to SEA before signing away😂. Ethiopia Had sea Access before. @@cushitic173
Nothing,
Jewish Ethiopia is not a friend, it is an enemy
With Russia in Port Sudan and China in Djibouti, it’s not entirely incomprehensible that Western navy’s may eventually see value in a Berbera base.
😂😂😂 Dream tf on
Very much agree.
Ethiopia unfairly landlocked and Somaliland unjustly unrecognized can solve each others biggest obstacles and promote progress in the region becoming superpowers with good strategic location its time to set somaliland free from the burden holding it back
@@cushitic173 unfairly landlocked? How.
Somaliland is an integral part of Somalia how is it unfairly unrecognised what's not fair
@@Opp_Man Gaal rac see I told I 😂😂
Great and historic agreement between the republic of somaliland and ethiopia that will benefit both countries.
If you mean by future Ethiopians claiming the land belongs to them when we are all dead. And the military base i dont think they will just move out when lease is over
@@Mohamad-gurey this is mutual benefit both countery made strong relationship ethiopia needs the port only we don't need the land b/c we are so much free lands if they need it we will give them freely they need ethiopian Voluntary convince what somaliland to be free state and we agreed completly b/c We will pay any price to get our country out of trouble
@@miftomanche8854 ok what's with the navy base then and the military. I mean what can prevent Ethiopia from not moving out of the land after they have build massive port and all over sudden the lease ends and Somaliland people want thier land. Look if Ethiopia wants port maybe we can help them like Djibouti
@@miftomanche8854 all you are thinking about is present. What about the future of our land when our people want them for something else. I mean have you ever seen any country that leases it land to it's neighbors
@@Mohamad-gureyyou’ll never get the land. Keep dreaming Galla
Dont you think the red sea crisis is in Somaliland's favour as well? I dont think Somalia has a good track record of protecting its waters from piracy. Somaliland's territorial waters have been pretty much piracy free
Somaliland is in a state of civil war! The Eastern largest state part Somaliland has no control over it and has rejoined Somalia. Now the western Awdal state has declared independence too and wants to join Somalia .
The reason Somaliland Is not recognised is because it's ethnic Somali and shares language religion culture with Somalia and more importantly family links . Somaliland is a political project
@@theancientsancients1769We aren't going to believe you just because you said anything. You will have to give us sources. It is clear that the fighting is in Las Anod, nowhere else that is a nationaly recognized conflict. Las Anod is part of Somaliland and it will be retaken in due time.
Pirates are the one protecting our water. We dont see them as pirates but the protesters of our sea
Piracy is on the rise once again in Puntland where several episodes occurred recently so Somaliland is critical in keeping the international sea transport system moving without episodes in its 850km long coast where nothing has happened all this time due to its naval forces.
@@minime331 exactly
Thank you. Once again, great work. Glad you picked up the AU recommendation that does not get to be shared widely.
2024 is the year of Somaliland, Soon recognition will come in many countries
That will never happen Awdal state and Lascaanood are with Somalia and they put on their land the big blue flag Somalia is united and Hargeysa can’t do anything about it so tell Muuse Biixi he did the right thing in order Somalia to unite and Muuse us out of Hargeysa now and corner to corner Somalia is happy 😃
Somalia doesn't control Somaliland and you know it.
we will defend our sea, we don't care what you think, Somalia is stronger than ever!
The sad irony of the situation is that if the Ethiopians had handled their internal politics in a sane manner, Eritrea never would have had to fight to secede in the first place, and both Ethiopia and Eritrea would have been more prosperous avoiding a war, and remaining one single united country. Even now, it's facing the same thing with Tigray, another wannabe-breakaway state. It's a real shame that Ethiopia just can't seem to break out of this endless cycle of internal struggle and warfare. It's a shame because Ethiopia has such an amazing history, and such wonderful people. And amazing food too.
Well that's a great comment. But politics is a bit complicated. You see during the cold war Ethiopia allied with the US while Egypt allied with the soviets. The soviets were very generous they armed Egypt to the teeth, gave them loads of money, retook the Suez canal and build them a dam. Our neighbors Somalia joined the club late but become one of the fastest growing Africans states and the biggest army in sub Saharan africa. But the US gave us an annual aid of just 50 million dollars. We were sitting ducks. But at the last moment Egypt switched side back to the US. So we switched to the soviets. So backed by America and Egyptians the Somalis invaded, Eritreans and Tigrayans rebelled. So when the Soviets collapsed and the Tigrayans came to power. America played them against each other. Because Ethiopia can not be allowed to be a Strong nation again. And the Tigrayans under America created an apartheid state where borders are drawn by ethnicity and religion. Every tribe was given a flag, religion and an army. Succession was permitted under the constitution. So the current prime minister said he was going to resolve this problem. But the Tigrayans since they no longer could return to power decided to launch a susseionist movement and half of the politicians ended up dead and they lost their land.
@G36-Strelok Yes 💯 But it won't succeed. The geography is impossible for any army. It's even worse than Afghanistan.
Ethiopia unfairly landlocked and Somaliland unjustly unrecognized can solve each others biggest obstacles and promote progress in the region becoming superpowers with good strategic location its time to set somaliland free from the burden holding it back
@@cushitic173 Yes we will all be weak states. But at least we can finally have peace and develop our economy. Somalia should stop trying to become a great power and keep destabilizing itself. It's better to develop your self and bide for time just like the Chinese said and did.
no we wont be weak infact they will actually work better seperate like in the past during sultanates @@nebyeelda5862
Somaliland people worked hard to get where it’s today from 1961 till now and deserves recognition in 2024 which will be announced by out neighbours across the border 🎉
Wax itoobiya aqoonsi idin siin karta ma jirtee dhulbahante uun ba itoobiya loo doon tay
What if the Florida governor says I signed a deal with Cuba to some coastal cities of Florida to Cuba? That is exactly what is happening in this situation.
I'm so glad to hear that.
Wonderful ! Thank you for sharing that with us. It was long overdue that the people of Somaliland built their own country without any help from outside world
It's democracy, peacefull ,hard working and law binding citizens
Congratulations to all Somalilanders and Ethiopians🎉
God bless you all
Thanks for your great and informative video,Prof.
Proffer, James thanks for your great clarification in every aspects and on issues of world.
Thank you! 🙂
Thank you for this channel. Good unbiased information from someone who isn't ignorantly emotionally involved and can give a good unbiased material assessment of matters.
Thank you very much. I try my best, although there seem to be rather a lot of people who have decided that I am biased in one way or another. (Without watching the video, clearly. It doesn’t say what many might think it does.)
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I was waiting for this video!!!
Another well balanced analysis! Thanks James.
Greatly appreciated the details. Seems like a lifetime opportunity for entire HOA 🙏🏻
good Agreement between somaliland and Ethopian we are welcome
I was looking forward to this episode
Thank you for making this video, really insightful with more value add news reports
Great video as always Prof James. Keep up the good work.
So much to unpack here as a Somalilander.
1. It's hilarious that the same Somalis who used to mock us and say you will never become an independent country are now having a collective meltdown.
2. Using words such as soverignity and territorial integrity is just sad at this point. Somalia has been a failed state for over 30 years. Even today without western financial support and African military protection. The state would collapse Afganistan style. So calling Somaliland traitors for inviting Ethiopia into Somaliland in exchange for recognition. While at the same time being protected by Ethipoian troops in south is just hypocritical.
3. They keep mentioning that that the eastern part of Somaliland. Are rebelling against the state and dont want to be part of Somaliland. First and foremost we have to remember. We are talking about the same people who commited genocide and killed up to 200 000 Somalilanders. Who were pardon, given political positions and a clean slate. Yet have for the last decade kept killing government official.
Today they are waging war against the state and beheading our young service members on camera like ISIS.
4. Every one knows that this SSC rebellion would have not been this strong without financial and military backing of Somalia. The plan is to destabilize and destroy the state from within.
5. For crying out loud in what kind of democracy do a small minority decide for the entire country. We have had multiple elections and a referendum regarding our statehood. Somaliland will not rejoin Somalia. We will not sit with people who wants us dead. And till this day refuse to recognize or apologize for the genocide that happened. And
Great! somaliland is not region they are countery like south sudan ertria joubuti and other
Ethiopia unfairly landlocked and Somaliland unjustly unrecognized can solve each others biggest obstacles and promote progress in the region becoming superpowers with good strategic location its time to set somaliland free from the burden holding it back
The former somaliland defense minister is from isse clan of djibouti the reason he didnt support the mou is because djibouti would lose alot of money on its port due to competition with somaliland bascially djibouti becomes rich off ethiopias need for access to the sea
I might add to your list, Somaliland was independent before somalia and Djibouti, and somalia does not have the legal rights to a state hood, since they were a trusteeship, and they failed to have a harmonious unification with Somaliland, thus nullifying everything, and they should go back to trusteeship status, and have the Italians colonizing them again.
also somaliland was a protectorate not a colony like italian somaliland and french somaliland it was governed by local elders and clan leaders/sultans
It’s well research and very informative and balanced. Thank your professor James.👏👏🙏🌍
Thank you very much!
Thanks as always Prof 👍🏻👍🏻
Very informative, thank you professor James.
Somali clan systems are very contentious and complicated. Recognizing Somaliland will bring peace to the horn. Moqadishu is barely holding onto the capital and without African Union presence it will spiral back to chaos. Moqadishu’s greed to control swath of lands it cant govern will be the death of it.
Fake news
Facts
that is what you wish, I'm not talking about the recognition of Somaliland, but Somalia fights against terrorist, without the help of Atmis, so you can see African troops are only there for there monthly salary, putting Somalia won't reach you recognition, rather than you will lose,
no territory of sea to Ethiopia regardless of your low leveled thoughts
@@safarle9284 sorry, I don’t understand broken English.
As a Turkish, I watch all your videos. Because your impartiality makes you a respected source dear Hoca.
Thank you so much, Mete. I’m honoured. :-)
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Somali land freedom
Thanks for your detailed and unbiased accounting of this problematic dispute. Explaining the different points of view involved with embassy for each sides perceived reality is really exceptional.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. I seem to be getting lots of comments calling me a liar on this one. But I do like to point out that saying something one doesn’t want to hear is not the same as saying something that is inaccurate. :-)
@@JamesKerLindsayindeed James. You were very fair and historical correct with the facts you stated.
I hope Ethiopia clarifies the claim that they fully will recognize SL. You did miss in the video some of abiys ministers and cabinet members clearly stating that Presidents Bihi claim was indeed correct about the deal and recognition. You can find it if you look.
A story of possible positive opportunities! Our hope is some stability can break out in an area which the eyes of world are directed towards now given what is happen in the area of the Red Sea.
Botswana is a nation in Africa that can serve as a positive example for others to follow. Thanks for providing salient information on this developing situation in the Horn of Africa.
I wanted to express my sincere appreciation for the impactful video you created, bringing attention to the plight of Somaliland. Your dedication to shedding light on important issues is truly commendable. Thank you for using your platform to raise awareness and inspire positive change.
Great video, as always!
There is however 1 question that keeps lingering in my head.
How much of what happened does still matter?
I think this question is important as it seems that we are in or almost in a new era in Geopolitics. This begs the question how many principles will still be standing in a few years time? Which states can make the transition which can not make it.
Also apart from the broader context what can Somalia do?
Could it resonably win a war and stabelize afterwards? Is it attempting to do what Azerbaijan did?
Thank you prof to mention AU FINDING-FACT.
An AU fact-finding mission in 2005 concluded the situation was sufficiently “unique and self-justified in African political history” that “the case should not be linked to the notion of ‘opening a pandora’s box’”. It recommended that the AU “should find a special method of dealing with this outstanding case” at the earliest possible date. On 16 May 2006, Somaliland president Rayale met with the AU Commission Chairperson, Alpha Oumar Konare, to discuss Somaliland’s application for membership.
Thank you for the video
Somalia's Unity is of atmost importance to us Somalis.
Congratulations for both Somaliland and Ethiopia. If the implementation done right this will pave way for the New Republic of Somaliland. Both Ethiopia and Somaliland should crank their diplomatic machine to bring their legal argument to the world. Don't forget that the United States and UK made the same territorial integrity statements to Sudan in the early 2000s while facilitating the road map for independence to South Sudan. Official statements and what goes on behind closed doors are completely different!
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@@samuelfeleke5481 What is PP?😁
@@mooneymooney251 Payment Protection. It's a type of insurance. I'm not sure what relevance it has here though?
Ogaden region/ Somali region will be The Next break away from Ethiopia.
We fully support and welcome that treaty between the two sister countries of Ethiopia and Somaliland. Somalilanders blv now that their true and loyal friends are Ethiopia and as such will foster that relationship come what may.
great insights. I am interested in this new issue in the region and you have shown me what I was missing. Thanks
Thank you so much. The Horn of Africa is such a fascinating area. I could dedicate a channel just to things going on there!
And I would be the first to sign up and join that channel. My interest in the region is growingly rapidly and it would be an honour to learn from someone as knowledgeable as you.@@JamesKerLindsay
@@user-ni8fg8mr5e Thank you! :-)
Dear Dr. Ker-Lindsay, thank you.
Thanks for your support true history for us prof james ker Lindsay
I am happy with the agreement between the two governments of Ethiopia and Somaliland
Oromo amus
AXmaaro naagtiis
@@Mohamad-gurey oromo ma ihi ma 20ka km e siinay baad ka xuntahay hadaad buuqa naga joojinwaydaad 30 baanu uga dhigi edeb yeesha qadaadwayney
@@hanadarts1359u not somali but oromo who's in somalia full stop
@@hanadarts1359I'm from Somaliland and I'm against even 1km of our sea for Ethiopia! Most people in Somaliland are against this deal!
Thank you for the clarification
Absolutely brilliant, here i am highly welcome to this analysis of Somaliland history and hope
Thank you prof for enlighting us on topics that are barely discussed on major platforms!
another amazing video 👍
Peace and Love for Somaliland 💚 🤍 ❤️
i agree this channel tonight thanks prof jemis kay
The reality is the future,, Somaliland republic is the future of All the eastern African's nations and the first recognized countrie of all East Africa's countries,, from pritish protectrit 26 jun 1960.,, prof. James ker- Lindsey thanks for all information about somaliland republic..... Watching from berbera somaliland rep...
Professor Ker-Lindsay’s videos are always clear, easy to understand and interesting. This one is great.
Catalonia, Kurdistan, Taiwan, Tibet, Somaliland, Hong Kong, Western Sahara, ...
Our cultures and identities and languages deserve to be preserved, to live, to flourish, not to face extinction agendas every day.
We need to end the double standards. We are part of humanity too.
Citizens of sambuus land are still ethnic somalis. Sambuusland has never existed as a political, ethnic nation before 1990s
Once again ahead the curve prof.
I remember commenting on the first video you made in regards to this subject and it seems this deal has proven me right. Ethiopia needs a port and it was always inevitable we will get a port by one means or another. You can’t suffocate 130 million people. However the opportunity for mutual growth and benefit was always there and it seems Somaliland has seized the opportunity. Despite all the issues in Ethiopia and the gloom and doom narratives around our country, I only see an upward trajectory for the nation. Good luck Somaliland!
The only way Ethiopia could have gotten a port by force is warring with Eritrea, which was part of Ethiopia. Luckily, this deal helps both Ethiopia and Somaliland to be prosperous.
@@kl8650 Once this deal is implemented on the ground and the fruit of cooperation become visible Eritrea will regret its decision and will offer Asab port with much less price.
It's a win-win situation for Somaliland and Ethiopia. Those making the noise are just desperate and don't want the two countries to flourish.
I believe Ethiopia is part of coalition of countries who are willing to formally recognize Somaliland. We will see who these countries are when the full treaty is signed and implemented. Care to guess which countries they are??? My guess Senegal, Guinea, South Africa, Gambia, India, UAE, Israel, Algeria, Greece, UK, US, France
Delusional 😅... you clearly didn't watch the same video
@@jemal99 only time will tell who is deluded or not. I know these developments hurt you but man up. Whats next after Ethiopia recognzes Somaliland, i just gave my 2 cents. You think otherwise, its okay for us to differ on what happens next.
I don't know about the others but the Emirates is definitely very enthusiastic about recognising Somaliland. The UAE has a lot of interests and ties in Somaliland already.
Possible countries,
Africa: Ethiopia, South Sudan, South Africa.
Middle East: UAE, Bahrain.
Europe: UK ,Sweden, France.
Rest Of World: U.S (long shot).
Somaliland seems to pulls out a major surprises when things look a bit gloom, wouldn't be surprised with another major card in the next few weeks.
Thanks, James for your amazing analysis. Hopefully, this MoU will be a breakthrough fir Somaliland's recognition.
Appreciate the unbiased analysis.
Thank you so much. I wish more did. :-)
Federal Somalia is a country without a constitution and governed by UNSOM so it can't really do much to stop the recognition of the Republic of Somaliland by Ethiopia or any other country. The former minister of defence in the Republic of Somaliland is a relative of the president of Djibouti, so that was old style politics going on there and there's nothing Djibouti can do either to stop Somaliland's recognition.
As the People of Somaliland we welcome this great historic agreement between Somaliland and Ethiopia.
#VivaSomalilandandEthiopia
Somalialand state of Somalia are popular with less than one million people no way it can't be a country and only one tribe lives there but every state of those tribes want their own country too .. if Isaac tribe becomes country so daroor tribes or hawiyo and many others tribes of Somalia full stop
Somalialand state of Somalia are popular with less than one million people no way it can't be a country and only one tribe lives there but every state of those tribes want their own country too .. if Isaac tribe becomes country so daroor tribes or hawiyo and many others tribes of Somalia full stop 🇸🇴
Ethiopia unfairly landlocked and Somaliland unjustly unrecognized can solve each others biggest obstacles and promote progress in the region becoming superpowers with good strategic location its time to set somaliland free from the burden holding it back
Why was British Somaliland unified with Italian Somaliland but French Somaliland wasn't? Why do Somalia and the world accept Djibouti as a country but not Somaliland?
Somaliland is most democratic country in the east Africa and most peaceful nation in HoA
I hope the world recognizes this beautiful country
Welcome republic of Somaliland
Prof James thank you for bringing this matter to International public attention
As you mentioned somaliland has gained its Independence from Britain June 26th 1969 and voluntarily joined to the Italian Somalia to form unified state
Initially,somaliland people never been happy with unification for various reasons including alienation and marginalization
after a lo struggle somaliland reclaimed Its Independence again.
According OAU charter Political and diplomatic recognition of somaliland would not be jeopardizing for changing status quo because somaliland respects demarcated colonial borders
Somaliland case is very unique Internationally and regionally
Thank you very much James to talk about somaliland.
Somaliland Will be forever
Thank you Dr Ker Kindsay for explaining the situation with Somaliland’s recognition so lucidly!
Professor, what of the US-BR Navies bombardments against the Huthis? Will Suez reopen, or this move is likely to escalate tension with Iran?
Great questions. It's certainly a significant escalation. Until now, the United States has been very cautious about the situation. It seemed to want to avoid any direct entanglement. But the Houthi attacks have been getting more serious. As I noted in my recent video about this, any retaliation could undermine the fragile situation in Yemen and stir up an Iranian response. ruclips.net/video/lFr3AFIq56o/видео.html
@@JamesKerLindsay A minute ago the Cyprus MFA announced a telephone conversation between Mr Kombos and Mr Cameron "on the ongoing developments in the region." I believe Akrotiri will be further used.
True history of my country somaliland ❤ thank you Sir 🙏🏽
Good trust speech on a broadcast
Thank you.
Another banger from the professor
Long live Somaliland/Ethiopia.
Subscribed to you channel. Thanks for your hardwork and dedication. You are Amazing Professor 💚🤍♥️🇮🇷
Gaal rac stop using other people's flags😂😂
Every knows who are the real gaal raacs and its not the clans in Somaliland.
@@skp8748 Kaan somali mahan . Wa oromo
@@skp8748 Amisom ya gaal hooydin wassa kahdala carurta Amisom ayaa tihin 😄😂🤣
@@Opp_Man clans? You mean clan. It's a Habr awal project
somalia is on religion on people and on languege we are the last people to divide. STAY STRONG MY SOMALI PEOPLE
The Bond of Ethiopian and Somalilanders are based on Brotherhood🇪🇹💚🤍❤️
Thanks prof because you have regional state now days mou that is between Ethiopia and Somaliland that is coursring sea sides that Somaliland get recongse in Ethiopia
Thank you for covering this.
Somaliland doesn't fulfill what it takes to get independent for some of these strong reasons and facts:
It already lost more than 45% of the land it claimed by the rightful owners, Sool region in east. The west or Adelstate wouldn't accept another Somal clan to sale thier sea by another Somali. The fact is the idea of Somaliland came from out of anger and Northern clans have nothing to do with it other than Isaq. It will be easier to called what it is without fooling the world by the name Somaliland.
The idea of framing Somaliland for all North Somalis when infact is Isaq politicians self interest not even their own clan.
Somaliland ideas brought forward for centrall communit or Isaq clan in North Somalia. This has nothing to do with historical facts or colonial as Somaliland leaders want world to believed.
Without going into more details Isaq clan accupies two central provinces in North. The other three North Somalia provences belong to Harti in two provinces in the east and western one belong to Gadabursi clan and some Essa closed to Djibouti border. Now they controlled three provinces out of the five and the Ethiopian issue will take out Adel as well because it their Sea at question not the Isaq one althought they wouldn't be save after.
Now other than Isaq no other clan in the North has power or says since Isaq clan wouldn't allowed them. In the largest Somalis isaq clan population is less 8% as estimation. All the other 90% don't want to Somalia break up. Isaq politicians also failed to convinced other clans in North to go alone. They were ruling like North Korea style.
Centrally clan politicians came up three political parties belong the centrall community or Isaq clan.
Now the question the Sea Muse Behi now trying give to Ethiopia belong to other Somali clans in the North and these clans have thier people in Ogaden.Somalilland today isn't last year Somalilland. On August 8, 2023 Somaliland soldier fought Eastern province and destroyed cities and local called over Putland and defeated Somaliland army back to Isaq clan. There are more than 300 Somaliland personal armies in LasAnod jails including the leader of the army. Their weapons were taken by people they destroyed their houses.
Conclusion
Would Somaliland or isaq clan forced other North Somali clan from Somalia. Would isaq clan have the power to do that and forced others even with the help of Ethiopia. No it didn't work in LasAnod, Sool region. Muse Behi put his leftover soldiers to put down Awdal region population to jailed. The information we getting from Borame, Awdalstate region more than 500 jailed by Somaliland after the city protest against Muse Bihe bad deal with Ethiopia.
It all come down to three unions clan from East and West vs Isaq clan in the central.
You must really feel strongly about this development given your essay response🤣🤣🤣
Somaliland will be the newest African country very soon
And new 100%Somali Ethnicity country. Get over it walalo. Union with Somalia failed 35 years ago. However with Somaliland as new country Djibouti and Somalia
Three Somali countries in horn of Africa that will be beautiful and we will build Somali Empire in the horn.
@@queentanya3787
You missing the point. The issue isn't Somalia union failed rather within the North Somalia itself. Somali people will rather fixed the damage road than building a road never exist.
Asked your self one simple question. Why Somaliland asking for recognition for 30 years and doesn't have single nation recognized. The reason is simple. The world communities know more than you think about Somaliland. Actually today other parts of Somalia is more peaceful than North. Alshabab is weaken and Somalia federal government is better than before. As Somaliland people in the North from all regions came together 10 years ago to have inclusive Somaliland that failed because Hargeisa politicians refused. Then last year civil war breakout in the east. People in East and western Somalia can't be forced to abandoned Somalia for nothing. They would have the rights to remain in Somalia unless they decide for themselves. The rights to separate from Somalia can't undermined the rights to be in Somalia. Somaliland can't keep people quiet and run around they want recognitions.
If the ideas of breaking away from Somalia centre in single community with the power, it won't keep that power to forces others. An example of it look Sool. Now where is Somaliland.
The eastern community fight their way out and won't return anymore. People are not deaf and blinds. They know Somaliland had civil war for the last two years and still tension exist between regions. This will have to leave within Somalis themselves to solve it if they want to rebuild their Somalia or else. Mogadishu and Borama, Somalia are two Somali cities can't be separated clan, politician ect.
Now another problem with Muse Bihe and Abi united all Somalis every regions,South, North and centre. It came down to defend Somali Sea with any cause and worry about other issues later in survival mode.
A great insight but Somaliland has never been a colony it was rather a protectorate.
Thanks. Potatoes, potatoes. Ultimately, a protectorate was the same thing really. It was simply colonisation by another name.
Thank you for this well-rounded and informative analysis. Even though I do have some reservations on the detail of this Mou between SL and Ethiopia, the positive aspect is the recognition of Somaliland by its closest neighbour. Somalia’s argument that recognition of Somaliland will cause instability or open a ‘Pandora box’ can be seen as a form of blackmail, it seems like they themselves are the ones that are threatening to unleash this chaos if Somaliland is accepted by the international community. Somalia is abusing its position of being the recognised entity, and the reality is that the recognition of Somaliland merely means accepting the tangible reality on ground that Somaliland is already a sovereign independent state, so surely this will only strengthen stability in the Horn contrary to Somalia’s argument. Listening to the statements and speeches by Somalia’s official they have made it clear that they are only protesting this diplomatically as they have no means of doing otherwise and once they do and are able to at some point, they will ‘reclaim’ Somaliland by force. The inertia of the international community to genuinely solve this longstanding issue will only lead to a deeper conflict in the future and not the other way round the expansionist sentient coming out of Somalia has clearly shown that.
As the foreign policy spokesperson and a member of the National Executive of the Liberal Party in the UK, I can say that our party is highly supportive of initiatives that advance self-determination for the peoples of Somaliland.
You have told the true history of Somaliland and Somalia.
Great informative and well educated done ✅
You forget to mention well the elephant in the room, Egypt, the Nile dispute and Ethiopia access to red sea is also involving Egypt.
Indeed, a great breakthrough for both countries..give and take , best benefits of mutualisism. Well done both countries 👏
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There's no such thing call Somaliland, is Somalia 🇸🇴 and plus the people of Awdal are prisoners for 32 years
Prof James, few months ago, you did a well researched video about the SSC
ruclips.net/video/vUJUZHVYG5I/видео.htmlsi=m5xKUgl74FZRSeuU
Somaliland is a secessionist clan enclave, Isaaq elites wanted independence since the 1960s. However, I suggest you look into AWDAL state. Just like SSC, AWDAL wants nothing to do with secessionism. Awdal wants to be with Somalia 🇸🇴 but they are being forced and it’s citizens are jailed.
Just give up on the Awdal propaganda it’s not going to work.
@@Wars7498 LOL at propaganda. People of Awdal do not have freedom! When they say that they are unionist, they are thrown in prison and their family members get harassed! They can’t even carry 🇸🇴 outside nor can they keep it in their homes! Somaliland is a project created by the Isaaq elites and was planned in the 1960s, they brainwashed the regular people! Edna Adan and co are holding the Isaaq people hostages, this is a fact.
Thanks!
Thank you so much. That is incredibly kind of you. I am so sorry I didn't respond sooner. I only just saw the notification.
@@JamesKerLindsay No worries, your coverage of often-overlooked and always-interesting topics/regions is thanks enough and $2 is such a token amount. Please keep up the good work.
@@ptrappe I’ll try. :-) Thank you so much again!
Regardless of immediate Somaliland recognition prospects; DP World Berbera Port billion dollar investment, Ethiopia trade through the port, jobs and other benefits indicate that there is an opportunity for this area to improve the status of its people.
PS - Assuming Somalia gets its act together and absorbs Somaliland in the future, you can’t undue the infrastructure improvements.
There's more chance of Al Shabaab absorbing the fake government confined with a heavily guarded camp in Mogadishu than it absorbing Somaliland.
They can't even come out of the heavily guarded camp that got mortared last week by Al Shabaab.
Two nations whit Totally different history and culture ,, watching from berbera somaliland rep..
Well Summerized.
Thank you very much indeed.
As always a great piece Prof. Ker-Lindsey.
We need to factor in that just before the Addis MoU signing, Somalia and Somaliland had yet another round of talks hosted by Djibouti where a significant thing happened.
The Somalia president signed an acknowledgement letter that Somaliland was a separate independent country before the union in 1960. That it can sign deals and do business with other nations as totally independent from Somalia.
This is HUGE, in the sense that Somaliland can act as an independent country under its original borders and sovereignty of 1960 and do bilateral business with other countries and that was always something others have insisted on having to engage directly with Somaliland.
Somaliland is doing exactly that now with Ethiopia and this MoU signed is the 1st step while other countries are lined up.
What will persuade other countries ultimately to also recognise Somaliland again (Remember that 35 countries already recognised it in 1960 before the union including the 5 permanent members of the SC at the UN) is its strategic position which is even more significant in the current world situation for trade and security.
The US just passed its defence act the NAA that includes Somaliland specifically in a defence pact and a base in Berbera being built now.
UAE is also heavily involved in as an investor in both Somaliland and Ethiopia and so is China. So ultimately, strategic location, security and business will be the driving forces behind a re-recognition of Somaliland under its internationally recognised borders of 1960 no matter how much the failed state of Somalia complains.
Djibouti's complaints are purely out of fear and realisation that it will lose business to Somaliland and it wants to keep it all to itlelf selfishly.
Remember that it has leased bases to 6-7 foreign countries itself so what right do they have to object to Somaliland leading 1 base/port to Ethiopia?
In addition, the tinpot dictator there feels he has been outsmarted by Somaliland as he hosted the last round of Somalia and Somaliland negotiations which Somalia broke its essence within 48 hours of signing it, yet again so looks like Somaliland has utterly outsmarted both Guelleh and Hassan Sheekh properly and they are not happy.