R500 Aeropro LVLP 1.3 Basecoat & Clearcoat, Best Cheap Spray Gun? For Yamaha DPB
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2023
- My ramblings on the Chinese Aeropro R500 Spraygun and the Iwata W400 which it's based on, I hope you enjoy the video, cheers everyone, thanks for watching 👍
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Este es el mejor canal que he visto para comentar las pistolas de pintura. Las ha probado casi todas y las analiza de forma objetiva. Muy buen trabajo. (This is the best channel I've ever seen for discussing paint guns. He has tried almost all of them and analyzes them objectively. Very good work)
Hola amigo, gracias, se agradece mucho. Realmente disfruto haciendo videos, especialmente la diferencia entre los diferentes fabricantes y la forma en que fabrican las armas. saludos amigo 👍
Hi buddy, thank you, that's very much appreciated. I genuinely enjoy making the videos, especially the difference between the different manufacturers and the way they make the guns. cheers mate 👍
I really appriciate your honesty and review of R500. I bought this gun with all 4 tips. You're very perticular and it shows in your comments hehe. Newbie like me can benefit from tiny details you provide. Subscribed. Thank you.
Hi Seb, good to hear you're liking the videos, I do try and just say what I find good or bad, thanks, buddy, it's much appreciated 👍
thank you sir i love your videos always solid info!!!
Thanks buddy, much appreciated 👍
Great application 👍 Great job pal
Thanks buddy 👍
Just ordered one of these in 2.0 for metal flake and primer.
Thanks for the video Pete.
Hi Grenville, You're welcome, I'd be interested to know what you think when you've used it. I'm not sure if you have done flake before but try and put some plastic sheeting down around you work area, I use the roll out sheeting you mask car with, it will save loads of time trying to clear up, cheers buddy 👍
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I’ve made a small booth from big blue industrial skip liners Pete! They reach from joists to floor in my garage and I can get any amount of free cardboard sheeting for the floor! 😃
I enjoy all your videos. I myself love trying new spray guns. I don't buy them as fast as you 😂 but I love your channel and your opinion on different spray guns
Hi Shaq, Thanks, mate, much appreciated, I have had a little break, only buying 1 very cheap Chinese spray gun in the last 4 months. However, that's now gone out the window as I've recently got an Iwata WS400 Series 2 OBS gun and an LPH400 LVX , so I'll have to start saving again now 😁, thanks again Shaq 👍
I managed a reasonable job with one a couple of times (fluke really as I'm dangerous) but I think you hit the nail on head regarding buying a cheaper gun when it comes to cleaning and maintenance and longevity. Came out nice though, that tank!
Hi buddy, yes, you can get a nice finish with these. It's good for the guys who just have a few jobs to do, I don't find them particularly rewarding for the painter.
I'm tool mad, so I like something of quality, and this doesn't deliver on that count. Cheers, mate 👍
Nice it sprays really well
Thanks, Andrew. It's not a bad gun, and at the money, it is very good. Hopefully, people will see this and realise it's not the low-pressure low air consumption gun it's being sold as,
As long as people take that into account whn buy they should be ok, cheers mate 👍
I recently sprayed metallic base on a hood with the r500 and it was a motled blotchy disaster. Most of the videos I watched said to spray base at 20-25psi but I think this particular gun needs more to get the air moving. I also have the aeropro a610 which is supposed to be an improved version of the r500 and it sprays pretty good at 20-25psi. I think the air cap holes are slightly larger. Love your vids. Cheers from across the pond👍
Hi Marc, I definitely think this needs more than 20 to 25psi for virtually all basecoat, particularly silvers and the like.
I've recently got an LPH400 LVX and already had a Wider4L, now they can certainly spray complex colours at a low pressure, this certainly isn't in that league although with the pressure up does fairly well especially considering how much they are.
I was thinking of trying the A610 and probably still will, so it would be interesting to see how it goes. Cheers, mate, thanks for watching 👍
I have Summitracing LVLP, and Eastwood LT100 which are all the same guns as your R500. I use it with a Husky 20 gallon quiet version, but i modifed it with high flow regulator and an aftercooler with a muffin fan. Yours just needs to be lubed, mine are smooth trigger. The thing to look out for are the holes on the air horns, sometimes they are offset and not centered. There is a new version of this R500 which has a updated look and still use the same needle sets. I had one but i returned it because the trigger was sticky, I took it apart and found out that its a bushing. The older R500 is o-ring which is smoother.
Hi buddy, I think the A610 is the modern looking replacement ?
Thanx for sharing bud 😊😊😊
Thanks Dean, hope alls well, mate 👍
Another really great vid. For a guy starting out these are gold! Thanks for posting. Could I ask what gun mounted air regulator you use in this vid? I've had a run of bad luck with view lens hazing over due to thinners, even though I try to keep it off when cleaning... Cheers mate.
Hi Michael, The regulator in this video is a Meiji one, model number MAR. They also make a digital version called the MARD.
They are really good as they are a proper diaphragm regulator, so regulate the pressure and stop any fluctuations.
I clean the glass on these with thinners so they are fine with it, cheers mate, thanks for watching 👍
Another awesome video ! If i had a small compressor i would go with the Lph400. Just my thoughts. I like high quality tools that last and perform. What pressure do you find the Bellaria likes for HS 2:1 clear ?
Thanks, Mitchell 👍, the Bellaria or Kiwami4 BA4J I normally use at 2bar, so 29psi for clear and around 25 to 26psi for basecoat
The tank came out beautiful! Proof that in the right hands, its a workable gun. However, as I watched it spray, I couldnt help but wonder if anyone using such pressure as needed to get similarly satisfactory results on a full respray on a car as you have on the tank, the amount of overspay build-up in a garage or homemade booth might be problematic. I say that as most using such an inexpensive gun more than likely wont have the exhaust capabilities to handle large plumes. A hard lesson I had to learn in my experiences as well.
Still, it's a good entry level budget gun if one considers its use within reason including real air consumption. If not, the FLG5 might be the next inexpensive option with higher quality.
Hi Boss, very well put, using the lower pressure it's said this gun can run at just doesn't produce the goods and bumping it up has the negative effects you mentioned.
There's certainly a place for it, mainly down to it low price, although there's little pleasure returned to the painter that a better quality tool can provide, cheers mate 👍
Hi Pete, not sure what happened here mate but I'm sure I left you a comment on here early this afternoon but I've forgotten what I said now🙄
Anyway here goes🤔 the R500 did a really good job on the base and it laid the clear really nice mate, for a gun of that price you really can't complain, it looked quite a fast gun as well as it seemed to put out a fair amount when you were laying the clear, if it's only loosely based on the W400 then it can't be that bad👌
I used the NVE for basecoat this morning and I have to say it did a great job as it went on nice and smooth, I'm not sure if you will like the colour as it didn't look as good on the panel as I thought it would, we will see when it's cleared🤞🤞
Thanks Pete and I hope you are ok mate👌👍
Hi John, you probably did leave a comment, mate, but the comments section isn't working properly at the moment.
It's a nightmare trying to answer the comments as when I click on them, it says, "something went wrong, try again." It's been doing that since yesterday morning!
Yeah, it is a good gun for the 40 USD these sell for, I should have sent it to you with the others, but I didn't think, sorry.
Of all these guns, I think the NVE comes out pretty well, considering the price , I thought it was pretty good with basecoat and not bad for clear, shame it feels so heavy, it only a bit more than the DV1 but feels a lot more to me.
Cheers, John, all good here, mate 👍
Hi Pete, great video as always 👍 The tank came out really well right at the end! Shame you can’t get a air flow meter I wonder if you could rig something up based on a welding gas flow meter, I have one you put on the end of the tip as a quick test, maybe something similar?? Or even make an inline one although you would need either Perspex or glass that can take the full pressure of your air setup. Hope you find something one day mate. Cheers.
Hi Steve, Yeah, I would like something that would really tell me, but I am starting to get to know a rough guide with my setup on.
Also, you can tell if one gun is using more than another if you swop regulators without adjustment , if a gun is using more air than the one you took it off of the pressure you get will drop compared to the reading on the gun you just removed it from if that makes sense, cheers mate, hope alls well 👍
great video thank you
Thanks, mate, much appreciated 👍
I have this gun too and use it for spot repair primer, definitely not very low air consumptionand I think way too many people on RUclips have bought into the manufacturer advertising, I got it initially to use with a 4 gal compressor for mobile headlight tinting but it uses more air than the minijet 4400 RP in the 1.2SR tip and doesn't leave as good of a finish as well as being slower
Ya I bought into the hype too😁. It's not terrible but not great. It gets the job done. I got it because of the hype of it having low overspray but you have to crank up the pressure to get it to work right and that gets you more overspray. Something like an LPH400 would probably be better to keep the overspray down but I don't have the air for it.
I haven't seen many videos of others using this gun, so it was surprise to me that apparently so many are saying it's a low air consumption low overspray gun. It's neither, especially as you need to up the pressure to get a decent finish.
I timed the air consumption of my A610 with some of my other guns and it wasn't too far off from guns like my FLG5, I mean within a couple of seconds of my compressor kicking on. Definitely hype
well I watched your video on the R500 and figured id give 1 a go only other gun I could find was the Ntools 4000b if the R500 isn't that great ill buy it I've gotvheaps of guns but their wearing out if the R500 is decent ill grab 5 or 6 of them their cheap enough
Hi Mate, the R500 is a very competent gun, does everything reasonably well, so won't disappoint.
I think the 4000B is better, but it's not as universal as the R500. It also uses more air, which is important to many
I've seen it used to paint an entire car with a 20 gallon compressor. I have guns that will deplete my 20 gallon and make me wait. This R500 does not. So actual cfm? Don't know. I spray base at 25 clear at 30 with it when I use it. High solids clear even higher. For the money I have been impressed. I paid anout 40 U.S.
Hi buddy, I would guess it's around 7.5 cfm at 30 psi, so a little less than the Iwata Bellaria BA4-2 cap.
You could run this on a 25 gallon compressor and do a complete car respray without problems as long as the compressor was delivering over 8cfm FAD, that's the problem, the manufacturer of this are saying this is between 3.5 and 4.5 cfm which it clearly isn't, I know it good by full size gun standards but nothing like they claim, It certainly good value for money, of that there's no doubt
I have the earlier version and sprayed a whole vehicle, but the compressor was a 60 gallon one. Still, it was a bit of work as it's a bit slow to keep a wet edge when going around a car. The orange peel was thick rather since opening up the gun was necessary to achieve max coverage and max fan width. Imagine dealing with that on a small compressor that's constantly cycling, and now you'll need extra precaution to eliminate moisture from the line and gun. I don't think anyone is saying it's impossible, rather it's not ideal and if you're able to use a gun that's realistically 8 cfm, then a mere 1-1.5 cfm more puts you in range of much more capable guns. So it's really not the air usage, it's cost.
Hey nice video mate.I use to have a 2003 Yamaha fz1 1000 looks like the same color
Hi Gregory, Yes, it probably was, Yamaha used it from around 2000 to 2008, mainly on their bigger bikes from 600 up, it's a really nice colour, especially in the sunshine, cheers buddy 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 it’s one of my favorite colors.I’ve been thinking about getting iwata wider4l I want the best and flat finish I can get from the gun.I have kiwami4 , gti pro lite so I don’t need a gun I guess I’m looking for a reason to buy another gun lol…
@gregoryjowers3629 🤣😂, I know the feeling, to be honest, there's very little in these guns, well most anyway.
You have too good guns in the Kiwami4 and the Devilbiss, the Wider4L is a very good low pressure gun, it uses quite a lot of air if you put the pressure up a bit, probably on par with the TE20 cap if you have that. It's probably worth getting to experiment with the difference the split tip makes as it does atomise finer
Hi Pete, where did you find the larger tip sizes (and perhaps appropriate needles) for this gun? I love your vids. Take care.
Hi mate, they are on Aliexpress, I bought mine with all three together, but you can order them separately
I am looking at buying this gun to do a color change on my car . First paint job . I can get in in Canada on Amazon for $122 plus tax . With 3 different tips and air caps . I think that’s a good deal …
Hi John, Yes, if that's Canadian Dollars, then it sounds like a good deal and should do all you want.
Give it a good clean when you get it, as they do pack them with grease as in this video below, 👍
ruclips.net/video/RJuZq3DQh0w/видео.htmlsi=PwRWbJcJNxEXd0pS
Hi, dear Pete! Really nice job, as always! Which gun do you feel to advice me for a 50 liters compressor between the R500 1.3 mm, the Ntools GTI Pro Lite 1.3 mm and the Auarita K-400 (even if I could get this one only with 1.4 mm tip)? My indecision also concerns the reliability and the life cycle of these three guns. Many thanks, cheers!
Hi Massimo, What CFM is your compressor? I've never used the Auarita, but it looks the same as the Aeropro R500, the Gti Pro Lite clones use more air than the R500
My compressor is more or less 7 CFM. The Auarita K-400 has a 1.4 mm tip, so it releases more material, I suppose. Others gun I'm considering are the original and professional Asturo AB-17G 1.4 mm (more professional than the classic H-827 gun) and the Ntools CV1 1.3 mm (that I suppose is a good reply of the Devilbiss DV1). I hope you can test these guns in the future, so I could choice easily the one that best suits my needs (also considering the robustness of the materials they are made of and the availability of the various spare parts). ☺️
@MassiDeVita The problem with all these cheap guns is build quality. Some are a little better than others but will require spare parts much quicker than a named brand, and spare parts are not available at all for the cheap guns.
Disfruto mucho sus videos son excelentes, entonces tengo una duda amigo Petes tampoco es tan ahorrativa en materiales o si?
Hola Jesús, y gracias. Esta pistola no parece ahorrar en materiales. No es excesivo, pero no notas ningún ahorro como sí lo haces, por ejemplo, con el Iwata Wider4L o el LPH400 donde sí lo notas de inmediato
@@peteshobbies5383 excelente Petes muy agradecido y al pendiente de sus próximos vídeos saludos.
Try the ArroPro 500/610. It’s the ultimate DIY gun and the best finish.
Hi Philip, As far as I know, the 610 uses the same cap and tip as the 500, so it should spray the same although the body is different
I have both…the needle is not interchangeable. That sucks!!!
I've recently ordered the 610 to see what the differences are
👌🏽I don't mind the long videos ,the more info the better I reckon 🙂👍🏽
Thanks, Malcom. I can ramble on for ages, some of its more interesting than others, I guess, but pleased you're not too bored with it 😉, Cheers, buddy 👍
Hi Pete !!! Another exellent job..!!
I would like to know the air pressure you used for the Base in this gun,, ( R500) ?????
Hi buddy, I think I said in the video, if I remember correctly, it was 2bar 29psi for basecoat and 2.5bar or 36psi for clearcoat, cheers 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 ok,, perfect,,, thank you Pete,,, !!! You are the Best!!!
@nascarbryant5390 Thanks, buddy, you're welcome 👍
Dear Pete, I have been enjoying your videos ;-) Can you please tell me the brand name of the inline regulator you used with this gun? I like the fact that you can actually lock its setting. Take care.
Hi buddy, I will do a video on regulators soon as so many people ask about them.
The one in this video is my favourite gauge, you can lock it as you say but the best feature is it has a diaphragm regulator inside it so it gives you a really even air supply especially when you first pull the trigger.
The gauge is made by Meiji . their model number is MAR. They also do a digital version called an MARD, I prefer the none digital as its smaller, which is better on smaller guns 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 Thank you, Pete :-)
@windsurfingphd Your welcome, mate 👍
Hi there Pete ! 👋 just a quick question , is it a major if the trigger keeps sticking ? Does it affect the paint job in a major way at all or.....? ( cos my one keeps sticking)
Hi Malcolm, it can. obviously, if the gun isn't shutting off when you want it to, you can over apply the material, although most of the time, it isn't a problem.
Take a look at this video, take it apart, and clean it up, which stopped mine from sticking 😉
ruclips.net/video/RJuZq3DQh0w/видео.html
If you want to know CFM. From my (very) rusty physics A level, measure your resevoir tank (or trust the manufacturer) then see how long it takes for the gun to discharge between two pressures. 6 bar to 4 would probably work well as this is above the regulator pressure so gun flow should be constant. Boyles law, I think
Hi Matthew, I have heard that before, although I haven't yet tried it, I will have a go at it though, 😀, thanks mate 👍
Hi Pete! Bought a R500 spray gun off Amazon but I have doubts about it. Trigger is not smoth at all and it looks like R500 lettering on the side of the gun is etched on whereas your gun looks like they are molded in.
Makes me wonder if I have a copy of a copy.
Hi Brian, The one I have is an Aeropro R500, although they are all made by Rongpeng in China. Mine has the R500 molded into the casting, but they could change that when they like, I guess.
As far as the trigger goes, mine keeped sticking after every use, so I stripped it down, and it's fine now.
Was yours an Aeropro version?
Would you recommend this or something like a harbor freight $25 cheap gun
Hi buddy, I've not used a cheap Harbour Freight gun, but give that these aren't much more, I would go with this for sure
Could you please verbally describe how w400 has a better quality on the finishing? I know it is hard. Is the difference a doing extra polish with a lower quality gun to make it good or something else?
Hi buddy, you got it exactly right. The W400 will give a flatter finish off the gun, so there is less or no work to do afterwards
Would you reckon 14cfm is enough to run this system for bike parts, smaller panels?
Hi buddy, the R500 uses around 7.5cfm, which is twice what's claimed by the sales outlets but still very much inside your systems capabilities, so yes, you would have no trouble doing what you needed, hope that helps 👍
What was the brand of the japanese sprayguns you were talking about?
Hi Buddy, I can't remember. What context was it in, I think it's was the Iwata W400 Bellaria, as in this video
ruclips.net/video/wZTfN8piBjA/видео.htmlsi=oa-qxTHT1TP1s72H
thanks.
You're welcome buddy 👍
Hi mate great video again looking at one of thes what pps adapter would i need please
Hi Paul, thanks mate, it's the same as the W400, so a number 2 if I remember correctly
Thanks bud got to get me one its time i move up from
My Ani which i got after watching your vids also love the bike ones in spain i lived in calpe for years and have driven that road 1000s of times
@paultumber1088 Oh wow, small world, our family has a house on the Benissa Costa, so we visit quite often, that's where I buy my Sagolas as they are a lot cheaper 😀
PPS S2c
@jamessakimae9655 Thanks James, thought it was a number 2
Hello Pete.. quick question..after spraying epoxy primer,can I prep and apply paint on it? Or 2k primer is a must before painting it?..
Hi buddy, yes, normally you can unless the TDS of the product you used says you can't for some reason, if it's not fresh or within its time window you will need to key it first
@@peteshobbies5383 thank a lot for the info,Pete..nice finish on the tank by the way.. beautiful 😄👍
@reyjr3608 Thanks, mate, much appreciated 👍
Hello Pete, can you advise on something I'm looking into I do bits of spraying in my unit more furniture bits with liquidmetal and top coats and want to make a small extraction unit didn't know what you used ? Cheers Darren
Hi Darren, I don't have any ventilators filtering the air in only the air out, this is just two 700mm square boxes made of wood with a 600mm extraction fan inside, this vents outside through 100mm filter media that I buy in rolls
@peteshobbies5383 ok thank you what you have is what I'm looking to do just air out just unsure on what type of fan to put into an mdf box with some kind of ducting
As you probably know, you are supposed to have ATEX rated fans, which are expensive.
I don't have ATEX rated ones, I turn them on before I spray and off around 5 minutes after I've finished so the switches don't worry me, hell, your not supposed to have electric outlets or anything, having said that, I haven't had any problems , I do have lots of ventilation in my place which helps but means it won't hold any heat in winter at all.
Hi Pete. First of all , thanks for your videos. I have a 50L v2 3HP tank (1.7? CF tank) and I wan't a good enough spray gun to do some jobs at home , mainly on little or medium pieces, headlights, frames and things like that . Do you have any recommendations ? Thanks
Hi buddy, so you have a twin piston, 3hp compressor of 50L. Is that right? Also, what sort of budget are you thinking?
@@peteshobbies5383 yup, its a cevik pro 50L compressor. I didn't set a max value to spend because I don't want a crappy gun that i won't find parts if I need it but at the same time i will probably paint maybe 10 to 20 parts per year (I'm a beginner on painting with a gun too). Ideally around 50 to 75€ or a bit more if it really worth the money. It needs to handle clearcoat applications
I know that compressor, our family has a house in Spain and we have that exact compressor there, it's a good compressor although noisy as it's direct drive.
With the budget you mentioned, you are looking at the Chinese guns, and the R500 would be as good as any in that price range. You will have enough air to run it from the compressor you have
@@peteshobbies5383 thanks for your help 👍
You're welcome, buddy 👍
Hi Peter, just discovered and subscribed to your channel. It's mint mate.
I have just purchased the aeropro 610 to respray my motorbike.
Couple of questions, what size tip did you use for the base and clear , also, how do you warm up the paint?
Cheers, keep up the good work
Hi Andrew, Good to hear you're enjoying the channel, mate. Thanks for the sub.
A 1.3 tip is ideal for basecoat and clear coats , I do warm my clear coat and base coat up, you will see this in some of the later videos which I left the warming process in as people asked me too.
I use a microwave, now it's not what you're supposed to do, so I wouldn't recommend it, but it's what I do
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How long do you micrwave it for, understand its at my risk?
Just realised it gives the tip size in the title 🤦🤦
@andrewstaton4969 It's depends on microwave and ambient temperature, but around 8 to 10 seconds per 100ml of mixed product
@peteshobbies5383
Thanks for the information.
Just bought a 10 quid microwave, for some strange reason my wife didn't want me using the kitchen one 🤣
How many turns out when you say full fluid? Thank you
Hi mate, if you pull the trigger and turn the fluid out, you are at full fluid when the trigger moves back no more
Hi Pete, what kind of mini cup are you using on that R500 ? I reckon they all come with big pot right out of the box
Hi buddy, yes, they come with a 600ml pot, this is a pot I got from Ebay. the link is here
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123429797496?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ECrBiOqaRCW&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=v5EZyL9iR9-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@@peteshobbies5383Appreciate you reaching and helping out. Thank heaps Pete!
@ruve3047 your welcome, mate 👍
Is this gun better then lets say the copy of gti pro lite or copy of dv1? I bought it and everbody says good things about gun,best gun for price there is...
Hi buddy, I would say it's better than the Pro Lite copies, particularly if you are inexperienced . The Pro Lite copy is a bit of a hose with a small wet pattern so easy to overdo it.
The DV1 copy is more relaxed, so a good general gun, it's more expensive than the 500, though
Hi Pete,
i am using the R500 also and watched another one of your videos last week about pressure regulators. i bought the ANI RP1 and it doesn't seem to fit on the R500 when the nut is fully tightened to the gun the rest of the unit still spins freely. are you able to give me any insight on this?
thank you, Matt
Hi Matt, Sounds like something isn't right mate, if you look at the regulator and the gun you should see a male taper on the regulator and a female taper on the gun, these are supposed to mate to create a seal that's held together by tightening the nut.
Have you just been hand tightening it so far?
@@peteshobbies5383 Thanks for the reply! i actually meant i have the A610 as for the threads is it not the other way round? male taper on the gun? I'm most likely getting confused lol. the regulator that comes with the A610 when tightened, correctly makes the seal but when tightening the RP1 as tight as it will go with a spanner it still swivels.
@MaTtOy14 I'm pretty sure it's the way round I said , it's doesn't matter really as all regulators and guns are made the same so they should all fit each other.
It sounds like something isn't made correctly on the R500 where it receives the regulator, or something is stopping the retaining nut from going all the way up.
I have this gun and I’ve never painted before but when I spray the paint comes out like colored water just doesn’t come out for covering, I sprayed to light coats and didn’t even cover the primer so I put a heavy coat down still didn’t cover and now it started to run, what am I doing wrong, I mixed 1:1 base coat but it’s just too thin
Hi James, Are you sure you have paint that needs thinning? , sounds like you make have what's called "ready for use " paint, so doesn't need thinning
Someone told me to use white primer (base coat orange ) and turn up air pressure to 15-20 psi Try holding the gun closer and move slower but practice on some metal, I had an old wheel barrel I practice on and it came out good only one small run I sprayed 3 coats I guess clear coat is next, any tips on that ??
@jamespolucha8790 With this gun for clear coat, use the settings I said in the video, and you should be fine
Pete, one can't ask for a better paint job here. You got a bum trigger on that gun, even so the end result is tops!
Hi mate, Thank you. It did turn out well, I've since sorted the trigger, so it doesn't give problems anymore. Here's the video if you're interested. Cheers 👍
ruclips.net/video/RJuZq3DQh0w/видео.html
I need to paint something in the size of this tank but I have only 24l Stanley Fatmax. If there is a chance of making this job with R500 can you please let me know or recommend something? I know that 24l is nothing but the item to paint is small and I can take time for compressor to refill :)
Hi mate, what's the output of the compressor in CFM ?
@@peteshobbies5383 hi thanks for reply, 240lpm 8,4cfm max
@MrCopRobo You may get away with it. The tank in this video needs around 240 ml of clear coat, which is about the same as a larger car door.
You would get around 6 seconds on a full tank before the compressor kicks in. You will then be losing air, but if you're only spraying for say 20 seconds per coat, it should work.
It's not ideal to have to wait for the compressor to top up, especially in warmer weather, when the materials you are laying will start to dry/cure before you can get more on
@@peteshobbies5383 thank you for sharing your thoughts. I was looking for something like 24 up to 50litres to fit my garage and be portable to take to basement where I have second workshop. But its not for spraying purposes and I believe most of 50litre compressors will have even less cfm efficiency
@MrCopRobo It's the output of the compressor rather than the holding tank capacity
Will it be Ok with a ACA 50 L compressor or any 50 L compressor, to spray bicycles only
Hi mate, what's the output of your compressor?
If the output is the CFM then 9.6 ( I haven’t bought a compressor yet .cheers ivor
@ivorpeachey4366 Yes, that's the output. If it's quoted at 9.6 cfm, it will probably have a free air delivery of around 7 cfm, so it wouldn't be enough for this gun.
It would be fine for the mini gun I mentioned earlier, and that would be far more suited to cycle frames and forks anyway
Hi Pete ,thanks for the info, which budget mini gun do you recommend for bicycles spraying with the max CFM of 9.6
Hi Mate, I gave you the link earlier, but here it is again ,
ruclips.net/video/-9CamYk0vh0/видео.html
Hi! What color code it is?
Hi Buddy, it's Yamaha DPB. On some paint systems, it's a 2 stage and some a 3 stage
Hi, what capacity compressor do you recommend for this gun? Im starting this hobby but im still clueless as to what would be a sufficient size. 8 bar 50 liters?
Hi mate, it's the output that you need the most, so something like 10cfm or more, if you're doing say a whole car, look for 12cfm or more
@peteshobbies5383 thanks for your quick reply! Damn, that's quite bigger than I hoped for haha. Must go look into it, better to have one at hand thats able to do a full car even though I'm starting with car parts and scooters. Thanks again! Any recommendations?
@@peteshobbies5383 and with oil or without? Some say must be without and some say with. Tbf after a lot of reading it doesn't get very clear because of it
@user-de7rz9tm9d I'm not sure where you are, but try and go for a belt drive as they are much quieter
@@peteshobbies5383 located in the Netherlands. Thx for the tip!
If your cutting and buffing is there any noticable difference in the finish of the r500 against say a dv1 ?
Hi buddy, you will sometimes hear me say, " If you need to cut and buff all your work, then you won't really notice much difference between most guns" and that is generally the case, what the better guns do is save you time, as a quick de nibbling is all that's required if you do it right and of course it can match the existing paint.
@peteshobbies5383 I'm a true rookie. I have the purple freighter gun. The aeropro a610 and just got the dv1 basecoat gun. I was thinking I'd use the aeropro 610 to do the high solids clear but should I use the dv1?
By the way it's the real dv1 base
I would use the DV1 for sure, take a look at this video, the Clear and Base guns are the same, it's only the cap that makes it different
ruclips.net/video/dxBu3tTYd9Q/видео.html
Sorry, forgot the link !
Your review is really making me not want this gun with the high price it is now. You mention it being about $45 in the middle of the video yet it is almost $80 now. Double the price in less than a year.
Hi Buddy, I just looked on Aliexpress, and they are still around 40 USD . I know it does differ depending on what country you are in. Here's the link I found
a.aliexpress.com/_EvTByFb
@@peteshobbies5383 I appreciate it but I don't order from that site as it doesn't work for me since a change they did several years ago. But also I don't trust them to send me the right item to begin with. You have no recourse if they don't send the right thing, at least years ago when the site worked that was my experience.
Are there any other guns you recommend? Possibly one that works more like an lvlp gun, as you mentioned this one does seem a little more air hungry than it states.
@jdmcarrepairs142 I've been using Aliexpress for around 7 years, never been sent the wrong thing, and normally, if there's a problem, they will sort it, but I understand 👍
There's not much in the full size guns that I can think of, the Iwata Kiwami4 BA4J was a great gun, more money than the R500 but uses around the same amount of air but they have got really pricey now, do you need a full-size gun?
@@peteshobbies5383 Thought I sent this comment already but it doesn't appear here... Once they switched to the com and us split domains I and many other people got locked out of their site. I can not use their site any longer after that change so even if I wanted to it wouldn't let me.
I believe I need a full sized gun? I want to paint cars or pieces of cars like hood, doors, trunk, etc.
@@peteshobbies5383 For some reason my last 3 comments have not posted here... Like they just disappear. Will try yet again. Ali site does not work for me after they made changes to it years ago. Literally does not function for me and many others.
Yes I do need a full size I think. I want to spray cars and car parts like hoods, doors, trunks, etc.
I'd be very cautious trusting any information here. They stop users from commenting for no reason so you never know if someone has finished talking to them or if the creator has chosen to silence them.
Hi buddy, who are "They" and "Them" , I'm the creator, so I'm very keen to understand what you think is going on ? , please let us know, cheers
I have been watching Pete's channel for several months now and the main reason being he gives an honest straight forward take with no bias. It is very refreshing.
Hi Bradley, Thanks, mate. I just try to give everyone my honest take on things, I have a mechanical engineering background, so I really like knowing what makes gun performance different, not just that they are different but to try to understand why they are, cheers 👍