Playing ai is a different skill set, there are things they are weak to and such. Which is why backseating might be done, but in this case. Yeah. Viper is probably aware of most of this and on the other side of thing, someone somewhere will ALWAYS backseat you. Makes them feel better about themselves.
@@Peachrocks5 Why are you people repeating the phrase "backseat" as if this is a common term? I've literally never heard it in 4 years of twitch AoE2 and I've been playing since 2001 and own the original CDs.
@@Connection-Lostit is a common term. Backseat gaming is when someone not playing a game is telling someone who is how to play it. Especially ironic when they’re a pro player like Viper is with AOE
@@why_waitHe could've won if he hadn't pulled from his early advantage, he had green and red but he didn't go in for the kill, and yeah 3 imp vs 1 isn't a fight your gonna win, 2 on 1 maybe
ur the goat viper i just started playing again! Watching you play gets me genuinely excited. I am only able to beat hardest AI at the moment; working on extreme. It is hard to transition from cowering behind walls to taking charge with an attack plan but it is necessary.
Lovely. I'm about to play my first 1v3 vs some mates of mine later today I will be playing as Mongols as well so it feels good to hear you say they're a top 1v3 civ. Was a pleasure watching!
You played this game really well, this challenge seems to be impossible. It's so interesting to dissect game mechanics, in early Feudal, you can do a lot of damage with one scout, in imperial age, you can't do anything with 30 mangudai.
I’m sure there are cheeky ways to bug the AI out like just spamming buildings in their base or something but at least as a training tool they are pretty great
Honestly, when I play the definitive AI on hardest and attack with 3 scouts after 19 vil up time, the AI often already has 6 to 8 archers to defend when I arrive and will build spearman after it realizes I go scouts. I know my timings are for sure way worse than vipers, but what is this AI doing? 😂 it seems to be not defending at all in feudal
as a huge fan, my biggest wonder is why u refer to the unit names like 'knights' if i were to stream id literally say 'oh hes got 300 wood 500 food and 100 gold approaching me' 😂😂😂
Feel like the dealbreaker is the Castle Age. If they reach castle at a decent time, then they can boom and the pop difference starts to kick in. No way one can win 200vs600 and perfect AI micro... Maybe you should try with a different mode like regicide or the snipe 1st TC thing, to more easily kill a player
i guess the only thing the immortal ai sucks hard with is micro vs onagers. it's like extreme AI feels IMMUNE to onagers but immortal got clapped in 2 hits..
I was kinda sad when I saw in your previous video of Immortal vs Rehoboam that... *SPOILERS* ...Rehoboam won the finals of Davis Cup 7. Because Immortal is in fact much better, more flexible AI, but Rehoboam tends to work against AI scripts biggest disadvantage, which is early feudal age. Therefore I thought this video would be you versus 3 Rehoboams and you'd easily win in an unfun way because Reho tends to be clueless against any interruptions to its early game. I like Rehoboam. I just dislike the fact that it's not a flexible AI, and it will never be because of the way it was written, as TheNightPanda himself has pointed out in our discussions before.
"In a pair of three"... just say trio or triplet they are correct and easier to say. GL;HF! *Secretly bets a million dollars on the AI to win* *Spoiler* I win that bet.
Mr. Editor, pls re-consider using GenAI for the thumbnails. I understand it's a playful reference to use it to generate the robots for the thumbnails, but you should look into the WGA strikes and the impact the tech currently has on the creative industry while it's currently lacking in regulation. Just wanted to let you know it's not cool and not fun. I'm unsubbed for now because I want to see TheViper's channel do better than use GenAI LLMs. We all know how cringe YT "reaction" videos are when they're functionally theft; this is no different at the end of day.
This feels like the original versus AIs series, it's almost like we are getting season 2 electric boogaloo!
🐐
I kinda love how you can be one of the best AOE2 players in the world, and people will still backseat you.
Playing ai is a different skill set, there are things they are weak to and such. Which is why backseating might be done, but in this case. Yeah. Viper is probably aware of most of this and on the other side of thing, someone somewhere will ALWAYS backseat you. Makes them feel better about themselves.
@@Peachrocks5 Why are you people repeating the phrase "backseat" as if this is a common term? I've literally never heard it in 4 years of twitch AoE2 and I've been playing since 2001 and own the original CDs.
@@Connection-Lostit is a common term. Backseat gaming is when someone not playing a game is telling someone who is how to play it. Especially ironic when they’re a pro player like Viper is with AOE
@@Connection-Lost A quick google search says the term has been in use since the 1920s
@@Connection-Lost It's a pretty general term not just for AoE
Correct title. 3 Immortal AI vs The Viper and Jaguars.
lol
“In a pair of three” - Viper 2024
TheViper: Immortals, we will put their name to the test!
Immortal AI: I will erase even the memory of the Viper from youtube history ...
They can micro every single unit independently it's a bit much to expect a human to beat this
@@why_wait I feel the Mongols kind of played into the AI's hand by encouraging a micro contest. Something more cavalry based would have done better.
@@asdt560 possible but the limitations on population were probably what decided the outcome. No way 200 pop imp beats 600 pop imp
@@why_waitHe could've won if he hadn't pulled from his early advantage, he had green and red but he didn't go in for the kill, and yeah 3 imp vs 1 isn't a fight your gonna win, 2 on 1 maybe
The AI also cheats, anytime an Ignorant human programs a game, a.i., etc it's ALWAYS something Noob...
ur the goat viper i just started playing again! Watching you play gets me genuinely excited. I am only able to beat hardest AI at the moment; working on extreme. It is hard to transition from cowering behind walls to taking charge with an attack plan but it is necessary.
Glorious! I'm content with my occasional 1v1 vs hard AI and abusing AI mechanics with forward castle and towers.
Great job Viper :)
Lovely. I'm about to play my first 1v3 vs some mates of mine later today I will be playing as Mongols as well so it feels good to hear you say they're a top 1v3 civ.
Was a pleasure watching!
How did it go?
Pretty crazy to see the AI making human-like decisions. Pretty soon we will all be villagers controlled by AI in real life.
Not all
Yeah maybe communist democrats
YEEEES
Finally! Ive been waiting a longass time for another viper vs ai video
You played this game really well, this challenge seems to be impossible. It's so interesting to dissect game mechanics, in early Feudal, you can do a lot of damage with one scout, in imperial age, you can't do anything with 30 mangudai.
for minute i thought you had it... fun watch!
Immortals. We put their name to the test.
I’m sure there are cheeky ways to bug the AI out like just spamming buildings in their base or something but at least as a training tool they are pretty great
ai doing the liereyy archer dance micro 😂😂
Honestly, when I play the definitive AI on hardest and attack with 3 scouts after 19 vil up time, the AI often already has 6 to 8 archers to defend when I arrive and will build spearman after it realizes I go scouts. I know my timings are for sure way worse than vipers, but what is this AI doing? 😂 it seems to be not defending at all in feudal
You need Hera's population mod, the one that gives him +50 pop cap for every enemy beyond the first.
as a huge fan, my biggest wonder is why u refer to the unit names like 'knights' if i were to stream id literally say 'oh hes got 300 wood 500 food and 100 gold approaching me' 😂😂😂
Feel like the dealbreaker is the Castle Age. If they reach castle at a decent time, then they can boom and the pop difference starts to kick in. No way one can win 200vs600 and perfect AI micro... Maybe you should try with a different mode like regicide or the snipe 1st TC thing, to more easily kill a player
*27:53** Napoleon be like:*
(Annoyed at the fact that enemy attacks vulnerable spot, whenever he moves to engage other army)
their armies are acting special force like in movies 😂
You're pretty good at this game...lol
i want to try that ai, how you install it?
i guess the only thing the immortal ai sucks hard with is micro vs onagers. it's like extreme AI feels IMMUNE to onagers but immortal got clapped in 2 hits..
i think full feadal all to defeat one and heavily damage another might work
Soon tournaments won't be against each other but against the AI.
maybe kill green in castle age then damage red severely in castle, leave blue untouched (defend at home) should do the job?
Can someone tell me how to download this ai
you should get 400 pop 1v3 and maybe you can ok 11
Has he won against two?
Yes
@@ashley-paul what is it?
I would just abuse the pause button, take ten hours and still lose
The amount of complaining about micro made me think daut was playing this
I was kinda sad when I saw in your previous video of Immortal vs Rehoboam that...
*SPOILERS*
...Rehoboam won the finals of Davis Cup 7. Because Immortal is in fact much better, more flexible AI, but Rehoboam tends to work against AI scripts biggest disadvantage, which is early feudal age. Therefore I thought this video would be you versus 3 Rehoboams and you'd easily win in an unfun way because Reho tends to be clueless against any interruptions to its early game.
I like Rehoboam. I just dislike the fact that it's not a flexible AI, and it will never be because of the way it was written, as TheNightPanda himself has pointed out in our discussions before.
coop with a teamate for this 1V3
uff fist time i see him losing 😫😫😫
Because of the ai dodging, range units might not be the way
I love this so much xD
the 🐐
Yes you can, but most of us can't. The extreme ai beats me more than not 1v1. I play on hard usually just for fun
use tower rush to finish one enemy first, then counter the other two, ^_^
The best AI would hack the game find you and kill you at the start.
If you could have a equal population you could have more chance
1v1 200% handicap might be interesting
If Deep Blue was trained on AOE, it would easily crush ANY human player
you need more pop space
"In a pair of three"... just say trio or triplet they are correct and easier to say. GL;HF! *Secretly bets a million dollars on the AI to win*
*Spoiler*
I win that bet.
👌
Wait viper, before you retire, I will make the best aoe2 bot in the universe that will easily beat you in 1v1. I'm pretty confident in myself...
How is that something to be proud of 🤣
In your dream stop crying 1 Year old kid is salty 😁
You will never defeat hera killing bots
Daut is first
Gg
İmmortal and impossible
f silverboi noob :D
LOL blue spanish and has mass of archers he can't upgrade to xbows :D
Mr. Editor, pls re-consider using GenAI for the thumbnails. I understand it's a playful reference to use it to generate the robots for the thumbnails, but you should look into the WGA strikes and the impact the tech currently has on the creative industry while it's currently lacking in regulation. Just wanted to let you know it's not cool and not fun.
I'm unsubbed for now because I want to see TheViper's channel do better than use GenAI LLMs. We all know how cringe YT "reaction" videos are when they're functionally theft; this is no different at the end of day.