When I was 17 yrs old, I had to run away from my boyfriend's mother who wanted custody of my child. She terrorized me and my family. Angela Wagner even looks like her. This could have been us. My heart bleeds for the Rhoden family.
So sorry that happened to you 😪 I'm glad you managed to get out of that situation!!! Hope you're life is good these days? Bless you for knowing a bad situation, which seems to me you where young?? Ty for sharing your experience!! Ps. I just realized you were 17. Omg you were smart enough to escape
You've shown such courage and I think you must be a great loving, mother who put the protection of her child before everything else. You are wise and brave
The face of evil. Prayers for all the families who lost their loved ones in such a horrific manner. I hope this woman NEVER GETS OUT! This has been such a disturbing case. To think that all those people agreed to carry out this massacre is beyond sick. Prayers for the little children left behind too.
The state of Ohio agreed to only 30 year sentence!!! If she testifies against her husband and both boys if they go to trial! That to me is even more shocking than anything!!! I really wish that they could have found a more seasoned abs more organized prosecutor. This one really sucks
We have a similar case in Japan - One family killed another family. The whole entire family - dad, mom, 2 sons - were all sentenced to death. That was just surreal.
Prison will be worse for Angela. She will be trying to control the warden & how to run the prison. Hopefully she wont be able to! She screwd over her own mom by lying to her so she'd brk the law.
What get's me, is here they all set on trial for murder, with all the evidence stating when how and were they did the murders, and still plead, "Not guilty ". Really?
I'm not taking their side and I hope they all get the death penalty, but if you was in court facing life in prison or the death penalty you would also plead not guilty and hope that there is a mistake some how that get you off.
Because a good lawyer may convince a jury is one reason. And you have at least a little bargaining power if you go to trial. In these cases it might be life instead of death.
THIS LADY. WAS A HORRIBLE MOM RAISING HER BOYS! 😢 BECAUSE DOESN'T SHE REALIZE WHY NOW THEY ARE ALL GOING TO PRISON?-WHO TOLD HER TO BE A BAD MOM 🤔 NOT TEACHING HER KIDSBY DOING BAD THINGS YOUU WILL GET A REALLY BAD RESULT... AND II THINK IT WAS PART OF HER IDEA TO GET RID OF THE 🤧 THE WHOLE FAMILY THEY HATED, JUST TO KEEP THE INNOCENTLITTLE GIRL! THEY COULD HAVE WORKED IT ALL OUT WITHOUT KILLING ANYONE. BUT ABUSIVE ,IGNORANT MEAN PEOPLE DON'T THINK..THEY 😒 ARE 😈 EVIL ,HEARTLESS ANIMALS!!!
I don’t understand how anyone, let alone a whole family, would think it’s in the child’s best interest to kill her mother.. well obviously the child wasn’t considered.. it was a totally selfish and cruel crime. how can so many people in one family be so sick??
This whole time I've wondered who came up with this plan? Did they sit around at dinner and say " this is brilliant, no one will know?" For all of them to agree to this is mind boggling and not a one of them had a moral compass to say, bad idea! Horrible family every last one of them!
Yes !!! They most probably have sat around a table, all stoned to the core, and decided who lives and who dies !!! Unspeakable evil.... and the matriarch IS the boss with not a smidge of morality or consciousness.... Really sad evil expressions of human beings ....there MUST be something IN the water, over in the US of A....
@@NeVs-cb1oc it seems to be the whole world, other countries just hide it better. I've found it's every where if you find the right news channels that aren't bought.
@@NeVs-cb1oc meanwhile, as of June 26, 2020, Afghanistan, China, Syria, North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Russia, Eritrea, Turkmenistan, and South Sudan are the top 10 countries for human (sex) trafficking, which is even more reprehensible. America is definitely not the only nor the worst for murders, or human trafficking, though America too is quite high on the list. So what's your point other than to cause further division??
@@darladawn1111 …my point IS we’re talking about THIS ONE specific incident that has happen in the US …. Nobody mentioned or compared any of the countries you’ve listed and the reasons you are mentioning - regarding human trafficking- the are are baseless… these countries considered third world countries, supposedly a lot more disadvantaged that’s the US …. Still the world only hears the crimes from that one “ great” country …the school shootings the racial murders the general uneasiness where armed people- citizens, can kill each other … with the excuse of “ the second amendment “ !!! We hear some of them boasting of how they’re so easily can defend themselves and their families carrying weapons !!! WHY ??? The world is asking WHY do they have to ??? Are you all in war within your own country ??? With each other ??? ABSOLUTELY SENSELESS!!!! Why did you take it so personally ??? Clear sign of insecurity because you are aware of the rate of crime in the US…. you must be … Most of the countries you’ve mentioned still are or have been in war for many years and conditions of life there are atrocious ….the ones in Africa cannot in the least be compared with the “ mighty” US where the standard of education and awareness are so much higher than any other country on the globe …. Finely … No intent to “cause further division “ at al !!! to an already divided country by its people’s actions, fuelled with the senseless use of fire arms, allowed by its own country’s “ amendments “ and excessive production of them …. No matter witch country we all live …. We MUST have the ability to have a say when certain things happen that don’t always work for the good development and progress of our home land !!! killing each other for senseless reasons is NOT called progressiveness, it is called primitive way of extermination, from individuals that feel “ powerful” using guns and take lives, when do not have ANY RIGHT TO DO !!! THIS IS MY POINT !!! As for your argument … very immature and like coming from a juvenile !!! I hope you and anyone, in this country have a safe happy life !!! It’s in YOUR hands …..
That special prosecutor must be so exhausted from all her hard work handling this awful case! Just keeping the names of the members of the families straight is mind boggling in itself! I think she's doing a fantastic job at her job to put this awful family away for life.
Yes, fabulous job on the Prosecutors part, hard to keep straight....Billie Bob, Bob Billie, Billie George. George Billie bob! Inbreeding! These ppl are insane, hard to believe someone could actually have a meeting at their dinner table about how they were going to wipe out an entire family! They are pure evil.
Let us hope for life but as we all have learned the mother, the person these men done this for! So she could raise a daughter, that master manipulator gets out in 30 years! The least this prosecutor could have done was add everyone's ages up 16 yr old Christopher 19 year old Hannah Mae and so on let her sit the duration of years they lived...
It's my guess that she started the whole thing. It's always the grandmothers who decide a baby isn't being cared for to their satisfaction so they should have custody. "I saw her at Walmart and the baby's coat didn't look warm enough!" Now her whole family is going to prison. Good.
Billy did to get in good with Angela again being seperated. Rhoden gentleman is staring a hole in Angela & she is ignoring them. Id stare too! Wait I am here now & Im not a Rhoden. She looks human!
Truly messed up that not one of the six defendants was like , “Maybe this is NOT the best course of action fam .” I mean you never hear of an entire family doing this .
the victim's family should be able to do the same to their family eye for an eye tooth for tooth that's what's wrong with this country criminals have too many rights victims have none
Randy Thomas you are SPOT ON when I was attacked by someone who was a rapist, I was able to defend myself and the police came. He raped another woman just a week before he tried with me. The woman was terrified to testify, so I did. His attorney tried to turn it around on me. All I was doing was watching for a bus. I was dressed in Jean's and a loose sweater. The woman he raped was a wife and mother in her own home. I held my composure on the stand and he was sentenced to life!! I couldn't believe how I was treated!!! I'm just happy he will rot for the rest of his life
@@londonsage8696 The most important thing is that you are safe and unharmed except mentally, which I'm sure you must have a horrific time living with. It is because of people like you standing up and testifying against these people that the world is a safer place, one person at a time. If no one has said to you before, Thank You for helping to make this world a better place. I am thankful that you were able to defend yourself and that you are able to share your story. I feel that it is important that others know of cases like yours, not just cases that end in a terrible way.
@@pershiesgirl thank you it was really hard for a while because I had nightmares of his lawyer trying to get under my skin I felt the best part of me was not only speaking for myself I was speaking for the woman that was raped and was too terrified to come to court even though this animal was going to be shackled and after I found out what his sentence was on the way home the prosecuting attorney and I stopped at her house and we actually hugged each other and we thank each other I thank her for giving me the courage to be able to stand up to someone like him there are so many women out there that are afraid to say anything either because of embarrassment or because people believe that if they are prostitutes they can't be raped or because of what a person is wearing and it sickens me. I remember his attorney was a woman and I thought to myself while she was grilling me what if she had a daughter and that happened to her would she feel the same way?
@@londonsage8696 I think what you did was amazing and I am pretty sure the woman who was raped was as much in awe and full of gratitude that I am and I have no part in that case. As a woman, I applaud women who have the strength to do what you did. Not every woman can do that. You are an amazing and strong woman in more ways than one since you were able to defend yourself against a rapist!! I understand its the lawyers job to defend her client but I do not think that belittling someone or trying to get under their skin should be allowed. To me, that sounds like a form or legal harassment. The best part of it, other than his sentence is that you beat his lawyer at her own game. It is terrible when female lawyers verbally attack sexual assault victims or a potential sexual assault victim that way. It must feel like being assaulted all over again. I hope she feels terrible about what she did and think twice before taking on another rapist for a client. Sometimes the money is not worth it. More likely he was indigent and she was appointed as a Public Defender. Even still, she should rethink her tactics. There is no need to do what she did. The other good thing is he will probably never get an appeal because it sounds like he had effective assistance of counsel. You are truly an amazing woman for doing what you did. I wish no woman would have to go through it but as we know, there is no shortage of criminals.
It’s mind blowing that people could do something like this. This is a crazy world and unfortunately you never know what type of people your dealing with or getting involved with. It’s quite scary really. If without a doubt they are responsible then the justice system should wipe out they’re family as well. Harsh but people like this don’t deserve to even sit in prison. This is coming from someone who is very forgiving but this draws the line.
What is truly mind boggling to me is that these people don't seem to understand that homicide cases never go cold. And if eight people are involved it is practically impossible that one won't break at some point.
I don't think it's the rocket science these people have been inbreeding for generations and when they find a teenager impregnate her before she outgrows you and if she dare try to leave you momma will help.
She's more than likely in solitary confinement or in an area out of general population cause she would get badly hurt or killed. I say put them all in general population and let justice get served!
If I were innocent of the massacre of 8 people, I would be crying my eyes out in court and telling anyone who would listen. I don’t think I could sit through this so cool as a cucumber.... their disposition generally gives them away how they’re really feeling and it’s very rare the police and prosecutors get it wrong..... I just find it disgusting that so many people go through a whole trial to try to get away with murder...... I can appreciate it when they at least plead guilty and save a trial for everyone involved....
If found guilty; in which I truly believe that they are, the state of Ohio need to use these folks as an example of what we will no longer tolerate! These people will meet their judgements and Karma will be served!
First of all it's monstrous that someone would even suggest this - but for 3 other people to say ok yes let's do it!?! And then actually doing it 😳 There's something sick running through this family they definitely need taking out of the public domain forever I have a 2 year old grandson ( my son's boy) I can't imagine ever trying to keep him from his mum 🥰🥰🥰 the Wagners are a despicable family with zero morals
And Ms.Frederica!! The TRUE leader of the family and the one with the money to pay these experienced defense lawyers!! They say alot of The towns people fear her. So realize, her money and power talks which keeps people and "Her" wants to come to pass! Plus this Wagner Lady has been watching, learning and conniving with/from the Matriarch!!
To a tee we went searching for a missing man there 2 weeks ago and was followed, threatened n almost run off the road tje sherriff had a hand in this massacre
@Paul Topp Some people actually expect anti-social killers to willingly handcuff and lock themselves in a prison cell for the rest of their life. The fact of the matter is: if the killer cared about "doing the right thing" (ie: gladly accepting lifelong punishment for their terrible crimes, like these blissfully naïve RUclips commenters want them to do), *they wouldn't have killed anyone in the first place.*
They brutally murdered those innocent people with their 3 year old, a 6 month old an a 5 day old baby present. At least they spared the lives of those babies, but now they grow up without their parents! Nothing less than death penalty for these monsters!
Sometimes children can be better off with strangers than their own family members, unfortunately... Let’s hope they’ll get to be brought up with kindness and love away from their monstrous family ....
And .... the death penalty would simply put them out of their misery .... Locked up for life, waking and going to sleep daily with the images of their victims in their rotten minds ... That’s called HELL on earth... simple but TRUE !!!
Sickening how a family can do this, reminds me of my ex husbands family! This gives me much hope for Justice for others! Goes to show how evil family's can do this & is reality! Prayers much so for all those who lost someone!
sparky sparks_it_up No not at all. In fact, I think she was the mastermind. Just wondered because I saw the son in street clothes. Not a suit but better than a jump suit.
@@samanthab1923 they were given the option of wearing prison clothes + handcuffs or street clothes with a stun vest that has a 50,000 to 75,000 volts of electricity remote controlled that activates the vest, it's used to keep unruly defendants from acting up.
This family screwed up their youngest children for life! And the children of their victims not to mention the victims and their entire families! Sickening!
In the US ??? More than we can count in the whole world !!!! Remember .... US and their famous gun laws freedom ... besides, some Americans honestly believe they have the right to “ take out” ANYONE they think, can get in the way of their twisted thinking ... Can’t even be characterised as “animalistic “.... animals only kill to survive ...what’s their excuse !!! Monsters fit more to their description, strongly believe though, there shouldn’t be ANY defence available, for crimes of this kind ... Lock them up and throw the key, in the deep of the ocean!!!
Lol do you think only "Americans" think they have the right to take out whoever they want?🤦🏻♀️ Just because a lot of[but not all] American people have and use guns doesn't make a gun the only way to kill people... what about the countries that ummm, stone people to death still, or just straight up set people on fire ... bombs? Hangings? countries that don't have any guns just stab people to death or throw acid around at people. I think you should correct the word Americans to the word Humans, because HUMANS, period, think they have the right, not JUST Americans 🤔🤭😂🤣🤷🏻♀️ lmao wowww.
@@NeVs-cb1oc i agree with you 100%. The gunlaws in USA people think they are ramboos and have the right too kill. Why so many deaths ? How many deaths with no guns? Netherlands
@Sophia Azhiev ...ok ...let’s blame the Mexican cartels ... and very readily excuse the REAL American “ cartels” that walk around killing people, just because they think they should !!! Very very poor excuse ....ridiculous I would say !!!
Why is there ALWAYS someone in the court with chronic bronchitis or worse?!?! I’ve watched a lot of cases during lockdown and lord there is always a LOUD cougher in the audience. What’s up with that? Is it required along with a jury and bailiff?
They’re with cps but last we heard they’re arranging with a member of the Rodehn family to adopt the little girl ... Away from this EVIL pack of her fathers family ....
@@ladybug4408 Is this true? Do they have like Sunday night dinner to use meth or something? Cause no rational person will execute such horrible act of terror.
She is very quiet 🤫 for NOW!!! Hope as she will stay in jail for the rest of her life! Can’t imagine one second as human being could do such horrific crime and with no fear on her face! Devil! I just read about this crime in 2019! ÔMy! Poor victims and their families!
Denis Cahalane.......it was not just the local police.....for awhile the FBI was involved......because there was a possibility that this was done by a drug cartel.......they spent two and a half yrs gathering evidence.....they are guilty....why else would you tamper with your neighbor's security system.....if you were not planning something.
This will be a cake walk compared to standing before God and giving an account for all of this. Rape does not give you the right to kill 8 innocent people, because you are bitter in your own life.
Intend to kill is as bad as murder or even more. You can murder someone at the jist of the moment in anger. But to plot and plan something is sick and twisted.
Case reminds me of the Manson family, but Manson never was let out. This woman received a sentence of 30 years, which means she'll be out in about 15, and she'll be able to visit her boys, but hopefully the system won't ever allow her close to her grandchildren again. She thought she was a better mother than Tabitha and Hanna, yet neither of those two women ever murdered or stirred up lies about others to gain custody. Whole thing is so sad and sickening.
Lynne Springer she still has her uniform on tho, lol. Jake apparently requested that he not be handcuffed and got to wear a brand new shirt. It appears she at least had one of 2 requests granted.
Why? There is nothing wrong with the audio apart from when the defence confers with the defendant when he whispers! Even the judge is not privy to that conversation. Check your computer or ear wax
What the heck was she thinking, teaching her children to murder people as a way to resolve their problems?! People should have to pass a “common sense” test to become parents! Because, as we see…common sense isn’t so common. God have mercy for the victims!
Puppy mill from hell also. She conned her own mom to brk the law by lying & playing the victim. Maybe she was molested as a child & now has to control all where she had none as a child & brks all laws since they were broke on her & let her sons do the same to Tabby & Hannah. She lacks all morals & doesnt love anyone! Even teachers protect their students more than she did her children. Or grandchildren & husband. Her cult.
Guess nobody is there to support Angela. Still appearing in prison wardrobe at hearings. The Wagoners are going to put all of the blame on her. Not defending her...they are all equally guilty. But money talks and she can't speak with her own mother due to her own paperwork involvement. So Angela will probably be painted as the ringleader, etc. But nobody put the guns in the hands of the Wagoners. Personally my money is on granny Wagoner being behind it all. She has always been ruthless in her business practices and always finds a way to blame others while waving her Jesus flag. I just hope her money doesnt buy all her kids, grandson, etc out of prison. But depending on how the trial goes, if the state didn't mess up the processing of evidence, if their evidence is solid...I hope they get justice for the Rhoden family. My big worry so far is money talks. Granny Wagoner has won the first round in her battle. She has the money to hire the best for her family. I believe the Sheriff had only the best intentions and truly wanted to find the Rhoden killers. But I believe people wanted to find a way to discredit him and the department....which would benefit the Wagoners in these trials. I could see old lady Wagoner having no problem destroying someone's else's life/career to save her own family members. Reader is human and made some mistakes, but some if the charges are sgsjry at best. But he won't get his name cleared until after all this is over. The sacrificial lamb. If you can't prove your innocence, the best and only defense is tear a part the way the evidence was obtained, processed, stored and all the people surrounding it's retrieval. Classic example the OJ Simpson trial. Let's hope we don't have the same situation here as far as the evidence goes. Good news is I doubt granny Wagoner has OJ money to drag in that many experts.
Jaditelady173 Mary..........I agree with you they may try to put the blame on her but hopefully, the prosecution will not be stupid enough to buy that.....the prosecutors say there was equipment in the house to make silencers for guns..... I would doubt that was being used by her and not the men.....also one of the male victims was shot nine times...... I guess she alone did that too.....If I were her and I thought for a minute that they were planning to blame me I would quickly take a plea deal and testify against all of them including granny.......she would be the only living eyewitness the prosecution would have and it would keep her off death row......and make the prosecution case air-tight.
They have quite a bit of money so this is going to be a circus and I think Angela is there ringleader. Who do you think was gonna be taking care of Sophia ? Jake? These are just self righteous horrible people who decided they were gonna take what they couldn't have. I hope and pray justice is served. God help these people.
@Pamela Morris silencers is one issue....But you put all the other stuff with it...well if it walks like a duck...it usually is a duck. The Wagoners are involved...But as to who did what...And just how much. We don't know yet. Just a hunch on my part....But the one person who doesn't seem to have a stomach for all this is the brother....of the father. I can't think of his name at the moment...I haven't thought about this trial in awhile with the virus and all. But he is the one who lost all the weight and requested to be in solitary confinement, etc. Purely my opinion again....But I think he knows stuff...But is walking the family line....But if it gets down to the wire I'm not so sure he will be willing to spend the rest of his life in jail for something he might not have that much involvement in. But also, I don't know much personally about his character or personal history. I'm just going on what I've read and observed in court appearances. The others appear more confident and not nearly as worried. I've been so busy sewing masks that I haven't seen any updates. Plus my Facebook account got hacked by someone in the Dominican Republic and I havent been able to get back on it due to that....so i am so far out of the loop.
In my opinion, a child that young should be given a new identity & placed for adoption in another state. In other words, she gets a clean slate & the chance to be raised by decent, loving people. She shouldn’t have this horrible situation front & center in her life - which it will be if she’s raised in that area. No matter how well intentioned the “grownups”, there’s just no way she could be shielded from knowing her awful, violent origins. Not one second of this is her fault. She shouldn’t have to pay a price for it.
@@windwoman3549 I totally agree. There are many horrific cases where young children/infants are not returned to family but adopted out to get fresh start in life. Thank you for that observation.🙂
@@corneliawissing7950 ...NARCISSISTIC murderers that think they can decide who lives or dies ... But really, is the death penalty the perfect punishment ??? It would simply put them out of their misery!!! Locked up and having to sleep and wake with the images of their dead victims in their minds WOULD BE the best sentence for the term of their miserable lives!!!
@@NeVs-cb1oc , You've put me in a moral quandary! I think, if they'd fall asleep and wake with the images of what they'd done it would be a perfect punishment. But if they had no regrets? No images? I have no real solution.
@@corneliawissing7950 ...yes I thought of that too but just think about it ....after many many years incarcerated I’m sure it will come the time for them,to regret what they’ve done and will be much too late for that ....I honestly believe that the “ hell” we humans create IS in this life !!! death punishment would certainly be useless....don’t get me wrong I’m not religious... We all have the ability to create heaven and he’ll in our lives, always ... Locked up for LIFE will NOT BE fun at all ...how many serial killers commit suicide while incarcerated, simply because life is unbearable in there ...
@@NeVs-cb1oc , I am not in favour of the death sentence, but then, I'm not in favour of abortion and/or 'assisted suicide'. But that is indeed because I am a person of faith. You are quite right: we can create hell or heaven to those around us, but it's not an aspect I am to judge.
I agree this has been going on for years for an extensive time there is nothing left that needs to be learned and no reason to take any more time for trial
I will pray for the ex-wives who got away. Their paths could have had a whole different trajectory on a whim with this family. So much grief to bear on so many different families & this whole community,
Tabby mustve cried her eyes out but she knew she would be dead after George beat her for not doing enough chores. Im not that smart Id be dead like Hannah. Sofia didnt like being at the Wagners bc Rhodens were all love, kisses & hugs not evil. Tears keep falling. When 1 of the Rhodens testified Rhoden grandmother totally lost it. Billy will have a trial & hurt will resurface. Jury will have nightmares also. Ohio needs to chg law where killers cannot opt out of audio & camera. Shy now?
Tabby was only 11 yrs old when she moved into George's bed. Against the law but easier to groom. She was so naive but knew she didnt deserve to get abused physically. Im so happy she got her son back. Sophia needs to learn her mom chose death before giving her to them!💜🙏💜
Blows my mind this woman was able to get out of a life sentence. She was the ring leader
Ring leader- smart because she spoke up first and took a plea - sad
my understanding is that it was her husbands idea, not hers.
Don't surprise me this white woman got of life sentence.
At her age 30 years is a life sentence - hopefully
That's your good old just is system at work
The Wagner family is sickening,
I hope they all get life in prison
What kind of parents arrange their kids to murder people over custody
When I was 17 yrs old, I had to run away from my boyfriend's mother who wanted custody of my child. She terrorized me and my family. Angela Wagner even looks like her. This could have been us. My heart bleeds for the Rhoden family.
Thank God it wasn't you and your child.
So sorry that happened to you 😪 I'm glad you managed to get out of that situation!!! Hope you're life is good these days? Bless you for knowing a bad situation, which seems to me you where young?? Ty for sharing your experience!!
Ps. I just realized you were 17. Omg you were smart enough to escape
You've shown such courage and I think you must be a great loving, mother who put the protection of her child before everything else. You are wise and brave
Psalm 72 👍🏆🙌🥀
Well you were only seventeen so you were a child yourself. she was probably concerned about your mothering abilities
So happy Jake finally cracked and confessed to these senseless murders.
For REALLY?!?! LINK !!!
Looks for Scales of Justice.
And had to fight back laughs as he plead guilty to each count. Disgusting family! Apple didn’t fall far from the tree here!
Bet his dad was pissed! I can just imagine his reaction - shocking that none of the others have changed their pleas as of yet.
Have any of these trials started yet. I can't find any trials.,
The face of evil. Prayers for all the families who lost their loved ones in such a horrific manner. I hope this woman NEVER GETS OUT! This has been such a disturbing case. To think that all those people agreed to carry out this massacre is beyond sick. Prayers for the little children left behind too.
The state of Ohio agreed to only 30 year sentence!!! If she testifies against her husband and both boys if they go to trial! That to me is even more shocking than anything!!! I really wish that they could have found a more seasoned abs more organized prosecutor. This one really sucks
We have a similar case in Japan - One family killed another family. The whole entire family - dad, mom, 2 sons - were all sentenced to death. That was just surreal.
Horrific to hear. 💔🇨🇦
That’s what we should do like japan does
@@BCRUNK There's an English translation in Wikipedia: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8Cmuta_murders
@@lydiagomez3639 retribution is fair in some ways. However, where do we draw the line of what crime or criminal is not redeemable?
Prison will be worse for Angela. She will be trying to control the warden & how to run the prison. Hopefully she wont be able to! She screwd over her own mom by lying to her so she'd brk the law.
What get's me, is here they all set on trial for murder, with all the evidence stating when how and were they did the murders, and still plead, "Not guilty ". Really?
I'm not taking their side and I hope they all get the death penalty, but if you was in court facing life in prison or the death penalty you would also plead not guilty and hope that there is a mistake some how that get you off.
Because a good lawyer may convince a jury is one reason. And you have at least a little bargaining power if you go to trial. In these cases it might be life instead of death.
This woman/demon is obviously right where she belongs... she's responding as though she's in traffic court. Smiling. ?!?!
THIS LADY. WAS A HORRIBLE MOM RAISING HER BOYS! 😢 BECAUSE DOESN'T SHE REALIZE WHY NOW THEY ARE ALL GOING TO PRISON?-WHO TOLD HER TO BE A BAD MOM 🤔 NOT TEACHING HER KIDSBY DOING BAD THINGS YOUU WILL GET A REALLY BAD RESULT...
AND II THINK IT WAS PART OF HER IDEA TO GET RID OF THE 🤧 THE WHOLE FAMILY THEY HATED, JUST TO KEEP THE INNOCENTLITTLE GIRL! THEY COULD HAVE WORKED IT ALL OUT WITHOUT KILLING ANYONE.
BUT ABUSIVE ,IGNORANT MEAN PEOPLE DON'T THINK..THEY 😒 ARE 😈 EVIL ,HEARTLESS ANIMALS!!!
Whats done in the darkness,Will come to the light!
Amen
Heaven is not waiting for them, especially grandmother. She thought she'd be a good but not evil parent!
This wasn't even done in the darkness. I can't understand what took them so long to be arrested....... Is extradition prohibited from Alaska???
I don’t understand how anyone, let alone a whole family, would think it’s in the child’s best interest to kill her mother.. well obviously the child wasn’t considered.. it was a totally selfish and cruel crime. how can so many people in one family be so sick??
This whole time I've wondered who came up with this plan? Did they sit around at dinner and say " this is brilliant, no one will know?" For all of them to agree to this is mind boggling and not a one of them had a moral compass to say, bad idea! Horrible family every last one of them!
Yes !!! They most probably have sat around a table, all stoned to the core, and decided who lives and who dies !!!
Unspeakable evil.... and the matriarch IS the boss with not a smidge of morality or consciousness....
Really sad evil expressions of human beings ....there MUST be something IN the water, over in the US of A....
@@NeVs-cb1oc it seems to be the whole world, other countries just hide it better. I've found it's every where if you find the right news channels that aren't bought.
@@kimberlyhood4095 ...absolutely AGREE ... cheers...
@@NeVs-cb1oc meanwhile, as of June 26, 2020, Afghanistan, China, Syria, North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Russia, Eritrea, Turkmenistan, and South Sudan are the top 10 countries for human (sex) trafficking, which is even more reprehensible. America is definitely not the only nor the worst for murders, or human trafficking, though America too is quite high on the list. So what's your point other than to cause further division??
@@darladawn1111 …my point IS we’re talking about THIS ONE specific incident that has happen in the US ….
Nobody mentioned or compared any of the countries you’ve listed and the reasons you are mentioning - regarding human trafficking- the are are baseless… these countries considered third world countries, supposedly a lot more disadvantaged that’s the US …. Still the world only hears the crimes from that one “ great” country …the school shootings the racial murders the general uneasiness where armed people- citizens, can kill each other … with the excuse of “ the second amendment “ !!! We hear some of them boasting of how they’re so easily can defend themselves and their families carrying weapons !!! WHY ??? The world is asking WHY do they have to ??? Are you all in war within your own country ??? With each other ??? ABSOLUTELY SENSELESS!!!!
Why did you take it so personally ??? Clear sign of insecurity because you are aware of the rate of crime in the US…. you must be …
Most of the countries you’ve mentioned still are or have been in war for many years and conditions of life there are atrocious ….the ones in Africa cannot in the least be compared with the “ mighty” US where the standard of education and awareness are so much higher than any other country on the globe ….
Finely … No intent to “cause further division “ at al !!! to an already divided country by its people’s actions, fuelled with the senseless use of fire arms, allowed by its own country’s “ amendments “ and excessive production of them ….
No matter witch country we all live …. We MUST have the ability to have a say when certain things happen that don’t always work for the
good development and progress of our home land !!! killing each other for senseless reasons is NOT called progressiveness, it is called primitive way of extermination, from individuals that feel “ powerful” using guns and take lives, when do not have ANY RIGHT TO DO !!!
THIS IS MY POINT !!! As for your argument … very immature and like coming from a juvenile !!!
I hope you and anyone, in this country have a safe happy life !!! It’s in YOUR hands …..
I don't know how anyone could defend this evil women,,let her rot in prison
That special prosecutor must be so exhausted from all her hard work handling this awful case! Just keeping the names of the members of the families straight is mind boggling in itself! I think she's doing a fantastic job at her job to put this awful family away for life.
Yes, fabulous job on the Prosecutors part, hard to keep straight....Billie Bob, Bob Billie, Billie George. George Billie bob! Inbreeding! These ppl are insane, hard to believe someone could actually have a meeting at their dinner table about how they were going to wipe out an entire family! They are pure evil.
Let us hope for life but as we all have learned the mother, the person these men done this for! So she could raise a daughter, that master manipulator gets out in 30 years! The least this prosecutor could have done was add everyone's ages up 16 yr old Christopher 19 year old Hannah Mae and so on let her sit the duration of years they lived...
@@procureursparajuristes2714Inbred
It's my guess that she started the whole thing. It's always the grandmothers who decide a baby isn't being cared for to their satisfaction so they should have custody. "I saw her at Walmart and the baby's coat didn't look warm enough!" Now her whole family is going to prison. Good.
Billy did to get in good with Angela again being seperated. Rhoden gentleman is staring a hole in Angela & she is ignoring them. Id stare too! Wait I am here now & Im not a Rhoden. She looks human!
I sincerely hope all the accused are jailed for their natural lives.
Would make it six for eight.
No death penalty
When their arrests were announced the Sheriff stated that the offences carried the death penalty as it was aggravated and premeditated.
Truly messed up that not one of the six defendants was like , “Maybe this is NOT the best course of action fam .” I mean you never hear of an entire family doing this .
I believe it was one of the arresting officers, maybe the sheriff who said if you made this the plot of a book or movie, no one would believe it.
the victim's family should be able to do the same to their family eye for an eye tooth for tooth that's what's wrong with this country criminals have too many rights victims have none
Randy Thomas you are SPOT ON when I was attacked by someone who was a rapist, I was able to defend myself and the police came. He raped another woman just a week before he tried with me. The woman was terrified to testify, so I did. His attorney tried to turn it around on me. All I was doing was watching for a bus. I was dressed in Jean's and a loose sweater. The woman he raped was a wife and mother in her own home. I held my composure on the stand and he was sentenced to life!! I couldn't believe how I was treated!!! I'm just happy he will rot for the rest of his life
@@londonsage8696 The most important thing is that you are safe and unharmed except mentally, which I'm sure you must have a horrific time living with. It is because of people like you standing up and testifying against these people that the world is a safer place, one person at a time. If no one has said to you before, Thank You for helping to make this world a better place. I am thankful that you were able to defend yourself and that you are able to share your story. I feel that it is important that others know of cases like yours, not just cases that end in a terrible way.
@@pershiesgirl thank you it was really hard for a while because I had nightmares of his lawyer trying to get under my skin I felt the best part of me was not only speaking for myself I was speaking for the woman that was raped and was too terrified to come to court even though this animal was going to be shackled and after I found out what his sentence was on the way home the prosecuting attorney and I stopped at her house and we actually hugged each other and we thank each other I thank her for giving me the courage to be able to stand up to someone like him there are so many women out there that are afraid to say anything either because of embarrassment or because people believe that if they are prostitutes they can't be raped or because of what a person is wearing and it sickens me. I remember his attorney was a woman and I thought to myself while she was grilling me what if she had a daughter and that happened to her would she feel the same way?
@@londonsage8696 I think what you did was amazing and I am pretty sure the woman who was raped was as much in awe and full of gratitude that I am and I have no part in that case. As a woman, I applaud women who have the strength to do what you did. Not every woman can do that. You are an amazing and strong woman in more ways than one since you were able to defend yourself against a rapist!! I understand its the lawyers job to defend her client but I do not think that belittling someone or trying to get under their skin should be allowed. To me, that sounds like a form or legal harassment. The best part of it, other than his sentence is that you beat his lawyer at her own game. It is terrible when female lawyers verbally attack sexual assault victims or a potential sexual assault victim that way. It must feel like being assaulted all over again. I hope she feels terrible about what she did and think twice before taking on another rapist for a client. Sometimes the money is not worth it. More likely he was indigent and she was appointed as a Public Defender. Even still, she should rethink her tactics. There is no need to do what she did. The other good thing is he will probably never get an appeal because it sounds like he had effective assistance of counsel. You are truly an amazing woman for doing what you did. I wish no woman would have to go through it but as we know, there is no shortage of criminals.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind
It’s mind blowing that people could do something like this. This is a crazy world and unfortunately you never know what type of people your dealing with or getting involved with. It’s quite scary really. If without a doubt they are responsible then the justice system should wipe out they’re family as well. Harsh but people like this don’t deserve to even sit in prison. This is coming from someone who is very forgiving but this draws the line.
Sooo very much agree with that !!!
What is truly mind boggling to me is that these people don't seem to understand that homicide cases never go cold. And if eight people are involved it is practically impossible that one won't break at some point.
How they POSSIBLY could think they could get away with EIGHT killings……I can’t comprehend how they could even fathom that…..
I don't think it's the rocket science these people have been inbreeding for generations and when they find a teenager impregnate her before she outgrows you and if she dare try to leave you momma will help.
Ftgu
That person with the horrible cough should be escorted out of the courtroom.
Same dang person in her sons court appearance apparently. Nasty ass
Covid 19 where are the masks???
Social distancing???
@@Wareaglegirl9960 I agree. He was in court when they were trying to change the deal made to change the bail on the old lady.
@@anjanean look at the date dude...this all happened in September of 2019....Covid wasnt a thing then.
Sound is wayyyyy to low
Volume button.
@@nickfleming3495 My volume was maxed and it was still inaudible .
Okay , well now it's better.....
Can't hear ish.
Well turn it up
She's more than likely in solitary confinement or in an area out of general population cause she would get badly hurt or killed. I say put them all in general population and let justice get served!
Why do you think she would be in solitary confinement?
That’s not real justice though... but I get how you feel about it. I can relate.
If I were innocent of the massacre of 8 people, I would be crying my eyes out in court and telling anyone who would listen. I don’t think I could sit through this so cool as a cucumber.... their disposition generally gives them away how they’re really feeling and it’s very rare the police and prosecutors get it wrong.....
I just find it disgusting that so many people go through a whole trial to try to get away with murder...... I can appreciate it when they at least plead guilty and save a trial for everyone involved....
If found guilty; in which I truly believe that they are, the state of Ohio need to use these folks as an example of what we will no longer tolerate! These people will meet their judgements and Karma will be served!
How can any attorney want to defend evilness like this?
They have to.
Must be done properly , by good attorneys, to insure that justice pevails.
First of all it's monstrous that someone would even suggest this - but for 3 other people to say ok yes let's do it!?! And then actually doing it 😳 There's something sick running through this family they definitely need taking out of the public domain forever
I have a 2 year old grandson ( my son's boy) I can't imagine ever trying to keep him from his mum 🥰🥰🥰 the Wagners are a despicable family with zero morals
Watching too much tv. Living in a fantasy world.
I hope that witch knows that Sophia will hate her and be disgusted by her and Jake for the rest of her life.
SHE WAS THE MASTERMIND OVER THE ENTIRE PLOT!!
And Ms.Frederica!! The TRUE leader of the family and the one with the money to pay these experienced defense lawyers!! They say alot of The towns people fear her. So realize, her money and power talks which keeps people and "Her" wants to come to pass! Plus this Wagner Lady has been watching, learning and conniving with/from the Matriarch!!
@@mindymartinez4134 that's ok. She will get life
she is a nice lady. sheriff
trying to blame family
for things he did
@@billtribble3873 who’s a nice family??? You’re not suggesting that the Wagoners are nice people are you???
@@billtribble3873 WTH? Wake up, sheep!
“The Hills Have Eyes”
To a tee we went searching for a missing man there 2 weeks ago and was followed, threatened n almost run off the road tje sherriff had a hand in this massacre
Wrong Turn...
What the hell was going on in their minds that executing NINE (9) people in cold blood seemed like the best option... Sick!
ALF MAC7 they’ve not heard of having the child stay during school holidays etc!
Eight people...
Devils...
@@FLo-jc7ig Hannah was pregnant so nine lifes
@@kayhawkins5925
Dear Jesus!!! How terribly sad!!!
Lord, let justice be served!!! 🙏🏼
The sound on this is really nonexistent.
Turn your volume up in the search bar hun
WHY WOULD ANY MOTHER AND FATHER WOULD PUT THEIR CHILDREN IN SUCH A MESS
This case is crazy! How can you take a whole family out on custody issue!
If total family inhalation doesn’t give the death penalty,the law is a joke
i think you mean annihilation?!
Lol....
@@iraq.sometimessunnisometim1981 m
Better yet let them rot in prison for reflection!
I'm horrible, that head comment made me giggle ("... family inhalation..."), while watching a terrifying court case!
The family are Worse than psycopaths... :(
I can't believe stuff like this goes on, and then try to get away with it.
Nothings New under the sun.
It’s called narcissistic behaviour and actions ....
The way she sits there, stone cold says EVERYTHING!!!!
Of course they’re going to try and get away with it .....that’s what people do ....Casey Anthony Ring a bell ? .....she was one lucky murderer
@Paul Topp
Some people actually expect anti-social killers to willingly handcuff and lock themselves in a prison cell for the rest of their life.
The fact of the matter is: if the killer cared about "doing the right thing" (ie: gladly accepting lifelong punishment for their terrible crimes, like these blissfully naïve RUclips commenters want them to do), *they wouldn't have killed anyone in the first place.*
the sheriff is a thief & a
crook. he couldn't in
vestigate odor from an
outhouse
They brutally murdered those innocent people with their 3 year old, a 6 month old an a 5 day old baby present. At least they spared the lives of those babies, but now they grow up without their parents! Nothing less than death penalty for these monsters!
Sometimes children can be better off with strangers than their own family members, unfortunately...
Let’s hope they’ll get to be brought up with kindness and love away from their monstrous family ....
And .... the death penalty would simply put them out of their misery ....
Locked up for life, waking and going to sleep daily with the images of their victims in their rotten minds ...
That’s called HELL on earth... simple but TRUE !!!
Face of evil.
Sickening how a family can do this, reminds me of my ex husbands family! This gives me much hope for Justice for others! Goes to show how evil family's can do this & is reality! Prayers much so for all those who lost someone!
What is wrong with her why is she smiling 😥
She is in lala land
Why didn't they bring clothes for her to wear in court
@@samanthab1923 let me guess? You think she is innocent?
sparky sparks_it_up No not at all. In fact, I think she was the mastermind. Just wondered because I saw the son in street clothes. Not a suit but better than a jump suit.
@@samanthab1923 they were given the option of wearing prison clothes + handcuffs or street clothes with a stun vest that has a 50,000 to 75,000 volts of electricity remote controlled that activates the vest, it's used to keep unruly defendants from acting up.
For sure it's very hard for a defense lawyer to defend a murderous family.
One Word, EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!
That cough in the backround is going to get someone.....
This family screwed up their youngest children for life! And the children of their victims not to mention the victims and their entire families! Sickening!
Watching this in 2021. They are all monsters. Almost wiped an entire family out.
Without her I doubt any of this would have happened.
Volume is way too low.
cannot hear this VOLUME please
Try earphones....big improvement
does any one know when this bunch is going to trial?
“Cases of this kind” how many mass murder cases do they have!?
In the US ??? More than we can count in the whole world !!!!
Remember .... US and their famous gun laws freedom ... besides, some Americans honestly believe they have the right
to “ take out” ANYONE they think, can get in the way of their twisted thinking ...
Can’t even be characterised as “animalistic “.... animals only kill to survive ...what’s their excuse !!!
Monsters fit more to their description, strongly believe though, there shouldn’t be ANY defence available, for crimes of this kind ...
Lock them up and throw the key, in the deep of the ocean!!!
Lol do you think only "Americans" think they have the right to take out whoever they want?🤦🏻♀️ Just because a lot of[but not all] American people have and use guns doesn't make a gun the only way to kill people... what about the countries that ummm, stone people to death still, or just straight up set people on fire ... bombs? Hangings? countries that don't have any guns just stab people to death or throw acid around at people. I think you should correct the word Americans to the word Humans, because HUMANS, period, think they have the right, not JUST Americans 🤔🤭😂🤣🤷🏻♀️ lmao wowww.
@@NeVs-cb1oc i agree with you 100%.
The gunlaws in USA people think they are ramboos and have the right too kill.
Why so many deaths ?
How many deaths with no guns?
Netherlands
@Sophia Azhiev ...ok ...let’s blame the Mexican cartels ... and very readily excuse the REAL American “ cartels” that walk around
killing people, just because they think they should !!!
Very very poor excuse ....ridiculous I would say !!!
Defense: the State should NOT be allowed to present any evidence in this case, no photos, videos, witnesses, etc. Prosecution: this is ridiculous.
The face of pure evil. There's a special place in hell for these killers.
That person coughing their lung up needed to be asked to leave the courtroom. Difficult enough to hear proceedings.
Why is there ALWAYS someone in the court with chronic bronchitis or worse?!?!
I’ve watched a lot of cases during lockdown and lord there is always a LOUD cougher in the audience.
What’s up with that? Is it required along with a jury and bailiff?
Law of averages obviously.
A smoker worth COPD. There is no going home and come back when better with that cougher!
Smokers u silly goose. My mom hacked so much tar! She couldnt stop till her death💜🙏💜🥵
What happened to the children (in particular, the child that they wanted)?
Alllll of that....and the kiddo wound up in custody. These people are truly freaking idiots! They created an orphan for no good as reason!!! Evil!!!
@@horselover7744 I guess it might be safer for them to be elsewhere
They’re with cps but last we heard they’re arranging with a member of the Rodehn family to adopt the little girl ...
Away from this EVIL pack of her fathers family ....
What an absolutely evil woman….She instigated those murders. Disgusting human being.
The person blowing germs all over the courtroom should be asked to leave.
I wonder if any of them realize the gravity of what they did and do they have regrets
Im sure they have now that their entire lives are all fvcked.
I believe they were all on drugs! Drugs were or still are a very big part of Ohio.
@@ladybug4408 Is this true? Do they have like Sunday night dinner to use meth or something? Cause no rational person will execute such horrible act of terror.
God will judge them in the end
She is very quiet 🤫 for NOW!!!
Hope as she will stay in jail for the rest of her life!
Can’t imagine one second as human being could do such horrific crime and with no fear on her face!
Devil!
I just read about this crime in 2019!
ÔMy! Poor victims and their families!
I don't think any of her family did this , think the police made a mess of things
@@deniscahalane1224 oh they did it alright. How they weaseled out of the country for two years is proof enough.
Denis Cahalane.......it was not just the local police.....for awhile the FBI was involved......because there was a possibility that this was done by a drug cartel.......they spent two and a half yrs gathering evidence.....they are guilty....why else would you tamper with your neighbor's security system.....if you were not planning something.
@@deniscahalane1224 One of the grandmothers charged, Newcombe, has agreed to testify for the State.
Perhaps she is quiet because its just a motion(s) list as with any other trial.
This will be a cake walk compared to standing before God and giving an account for all of this. Rape does not give you the right to kill 8 innocent people, because you are bitter in your own life.
She will do more time for plotting the murder than if she did the actual killing . Sad but intent to kill gets them in prison for life .
?mmmmmm
Intend to kill is as bad as murder or even more. You can murder someone at the jist of the moment in anger. But to plot and plan something is sick and twisted.
Sad??????Why??
We need a judge cam from the bench ! Looking down on the accused !
Case reminds me of the Manson family, but Manson never was let out. This woman received a sentence of 30 years, which means she'll be out in about 15, and she'll be able to visit her boys, but hopefully the system won't ever allow her close to her grandchildren again. She thought she was a better mother than Tabitha and Hanna, yet neither of those two women ever murdered or stirred up lies about others to gain custody. Whole thing is so sad and sickening.
No handcuffs on her .... she has the same charge. Guess they do not want to mess her nails up.
Lynne Springer she still has her uniform on tho, lol. Jake apparently requested that he not be handcuffed and got to wear a brand new shirt. It appears she at least had one of 2 requests granted.
Inaudible
Hearing that cough in the background in the age of Covid 😖😷😷😷😷
Surprisingly they weren't asked to leave the court room 😳😲
This woman it absolutely hilarious thinking she could get away with this
She's horrible human being.
Whole family planned and plotted these horrendous murders...life with no parole for them all...
Kill them all as they did.
turn the volume up.
Motion 44 - To remove indefinitely whooping cough.
That is a huge distraction to the court.
COVID19 spreader.
😂
Every court has one 🤣🤣🤣😷😷
I'm surprised that there are so few people and press in the court.
..
Rhodens r!
FIX YOUR AUDIO!
Why? There is nothing wrong with the audio apart from when the defence confers with the defendant when he whispers! Even the judge is not privy to that conversation. Check your computer or ear wax
Modern day Hatfield vs. McCoys.....
Modern Mass Murder an it didn't have to be premeditated Killer on a Scale that Large.
They need to ask the person with the in with the obvious congestion issue congestion issue to lease the courtroom it's extremely disruptive
Why the low sound volume 🙄
This is the problem when you play house at an early age,
No defense immediate jail time
So sad and evil give them the death penalty
Did they really think that they would get away with this
Lora ... I soooo much AGREE with that !!! Thank you !!!!
@@sharlarobbins3819 ...apparently they did ... narcissists!!!
What the heck was she thinking, teaching her children to murder people as a way to resolve their problems?! People should have to pass a “common sense” test to become parents! Because, as we see…common sense isn’t so common. God have mercy for the victims!
Puppy mill from hell also. She conned her own mom to brk the law by lying & playing the victim. Maybe she was molested as a child & now has to control all where she had none as a child & brks all laws since they were broke on her & let her sons do the same to Tabby & Hannah. She lacks all morals & doesnt love anyone! Even teachers protect their students more than she did her children. Or grandchildren & husband. Her cult.
one of the first covid victims in the courtroom ?
Sounds whooping cough?!
Guess nobody is there to support Angela. Still appearing in prison wardrobe at hearings. The Wagoners are going to put all of the blame on her. Not defending her...they are all equally guilty. But money talks and she can't speak with her own mother due to her own paperwork involvement. So Angela will probably be painted as the ringleader, etc. But nobody put the guns in the hands of the Wagoners. Personally my money is on granny Wagoner being behind it all. She has always been ruthless in her business practices and always finds a way to blame others while waving her Jesus flag. I just hope her money doesnt buy all her kids, grandson, etc out of prison. But depending on how the trial goes, if the state didn't mess up the processing of evidence, if their evidence is solid...I hope they get justice for the Rhoden family.
My big worry so far is money talks. Granny Wagoner has won the first round in her battle. She has the money to hire the best for her family. I believe the Sheriff had only the best intentions and truly wanted to find the Rhoden killers. But I believe people wanted to find a way to discredit him and the department....which would benefit the Wagoners in these trials. I could see old lady Wagoner having no problem destroying someone's else's life/career to save her own family members. Reader is human and made some mistakes, but some if the charges are sgsjry at best. But he won't get his name cleared until after all this is over. The sacrificial lamb.
If you can't prove your innocence, the best and only defense is tear a part the way the evidence was obtained, processed, stored and all the people surrounding it's retrieval. Classic example the OJ Simpson trial. Let's hope we don't have the same situation here as far as the evidence goes. Good news is I doubt granny Wagoner has OJ money to drag in that many experts.
Jaditelady173 Mary..........I agree with you they may try to put the blame on her but hopefully, the prosecution will not be stupid enough to buy that.....the prosecutors say there was equipment in the house to make silencers for guns..... I would doubt that was being used by her and not the men.....also one of the male victims was shot nine times...... I guess she alone did that too.....If I were her and I thought for a minute that they were planning to blame me I would quickly take a plea deal and testify against all of them including granny.......she would be the only living eyewitness the prosecution would have and it would keep her off death row......and make the prosecution case air-tight.
They have quite a bit of money so this is going to be a circus and I think Angela is there ringleader. Who do you think was gonna be taking care of Sophia ? Jake? These are just self righteous horrible people who decided they were gonna take what they couldn't have. I hope and pray justice is served. God help these people.
@Pamela Morris silencers is one issue....But you put all the other stuff with it...well if it walks like a duck...it usually is a duck. The Wagoners are involved...But as to who did what...And just how much. We don't know yet. Just a hunch on my part....But the one person who doesn't seem to have a stomach for all this is the brother....of the father. I can't think of his name at the moment...I haven't thought about this trial in awhile with the virus and all. But he is the one who lost all the weight and requested to be in solitary confinement, etc. Purely my opinion again....But I think he knows stuff...But is walking the family line....But if it gets down to the wire I'm not so sure he will be willing to spend the rest of his life in jail for something he might not have that much involvement in. But also, I don't know much personally about his character or personal history. I'm just going on what I've read and observed in court appearances. The others appear more confident and not nearly as worried.
I've been so busy sewing masks that I haven't seen any updates. Plus my Facebook account got hacked by someone in the Dominican Republic and I havent been able to get back on it due to that....so i am so far out of the loop.
She controlled the WHOLE Wagner clan!
Rodens vs Wagners = Hatfield vs
McCoy's
Why do they record proceedings, of so much interest, with such bad audio??
She was behind that whole thing . why didn't she get the death penalty??? Or is that a " no death penalty state." ?
I feel so sorry for the little girl Sophia. She is going to be scarred for life from what these MONSTERS did in her name!
In my opinion, a child that young should be given a new identity & placed for adoption in another state. In other words, she gets a clean slate & the chance to be raised by decent, loving people. She shouldn’t have this horrible situation front & center in her life - which it will be if she’s raised in that area. No matter how well intentioned the “grownups”, there’s just no way she could be shielded from knowing her awful, violent origins. Not one second of this is her fault. She shouldn’t have to pay a price for it.
@@windwoman3549 I totally agree. There are many horrific cases where young children/infants are not returned to family but adopted out to get fresh start in life. Thank you for that observation.🙂
@@corettejones
Thank you, Corette! 🙂
Where is she now? Who has custody of her
Lots of therapy!
There’s always somebody in the court room with whooping cough
For sure the Wagner family are not sorry for killing the Rhodes family, no remorse in their faces.
Was She* charged with 8. Counts of premeditated murder? Actually committing murder? Has she been charged with arson and insurance fraud?
When they ran away to Alaska did they have custody of the little girl they were fighting over?
Can't hear it
Must be very odd for her to be out of control finally. 30 years is a long time. She dug her own grave.
Even Angela's mother-in-law Ms. Fredrika, despises her. She paid for her sons clothing for court except for Angela, allegedly. How sad is that.
Can't hear it nearly any sound
SOUND IS TERRIBLE! If you use earbuds you can hear.
Hard to find furniture like that … those lamps are awesome ..
The clock of the final judgment its clicking back, NO Mercy for this woman, hope so.
OOOMMMGGGG. SOMEBODY IS COUGHING UP A LUNG.
Hope they all get the death penalty... not one of them showed any remorse or tried to alter the course of their actions..
Why did they want this child so very badly? What will his/her life be like, having started with such bloody killings?
@@corneliawissing7950 ...NARCISSISTIC murderers that think they can decide who lives or dies ...
But really, is the death penalty the perfect punishment ??? It would simply put them out of their misery!!!
Locked up and having to sleep and wake with the images of their dead victims in their minds WOULD BE the best sentence for the term of their miserable lives!!!
@@NeVs-cb1oc , You've put me in a moral quandary! I think, if they'd fall asleep and wake with the images of what they'd done it would be a perfect punishment. But if they had no regrets? No images? I have no real solution.
@@corneliawissing7950 ...yes I thought of that too but just think about it ....after many many years incarcerated I’m sure it will come the time
for them,to regret what they’ve done and will be much too late for that ....I honestly believe that the “ hell” we humans create IS in this life !!! death punishment would certainly be useless....don’t get me wrong I’m not religious...
We all have the ability to create heaven and he’ll in our lives, always ...
Locked up for LIFE will NOT BE fun at all ...how many serial killers commit suicide while incarcerated, simply because life is unbearable in there ...
@@NeVs-cb1oc , I am not in favour of the death sentence, but then, I'm not in favour of abortion and/or 'assisted suicide'. But that is indeed because I am a person of faith. You are quite right: we can create hell or heaven to those around us, but it's not an aspect I am to judge.
Real life deliverance family.
I agree this has been going on for years for an extensive time there is nothing left that needs to be learned and no reason to take any more time for trial
I will pray for the ex-wives who got away. Their paths could have had a whole different trajectory on a whim with this family. So much grief to bear on so many different families & this whole community,
Tabby mustve cried her eyes out but she knew she would be dead after George beat her for not doing enough chores. Im not that smart Id be dead like Hannah. Sofia didnt like being at the Wagners bc Rhodens were all love, kisses & hugs not evil. Tears keep falling. When 1 of the Rhodens testified Rhoden grandmother totally lost it. Billy will have a trial & hurt will resurface. Jury will have nightmares also. Ohio needs to chg law where killers cannot opt out of audio & camera. Shy now?
Tabby was only 11 yrs old when she moved into George's bed. Against the law but easier to groom. She was so naive but knew she didnt deserve to get abused physically. Im so happy she got her son back. Sophia needs to learn her mom chose death before giving her to them!💜🙏💜