Thermostatic Or Non-Thermostatic Oil Sandwich Plate - What's Best For Your Nis/Inf 370Z/350Z/G37/G35
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
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GReddy Engine Oil Block Cooler Sandwich Plate Adapter, Type E M20 x 1.50 -10AN, Part #: 12401119 / Thanks Fabian Perez @fabianperez6518 for providing this 💪:
I've had people tell me that the Greddy sandwich plate kit that is sold by Concept Z does not come with the correct fitting adapter for the oil filter (VQVHR37 Engines), so I would recommend you either get it directly from Greddy's website or look online for maybe a cheaper price:
www.greddy.com...
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So I found this oil cooler kit on the net, looks like it utilizes the sandwich plate in this video and something interesting I found in the description:
"Internal Thermostat opens between 167-180 degrees Fahrenheit"
So it seems this thermostatic sandwich plate is actually rated between 167°F-180°F which I can confirm at highway/freeway speeds in hot or cold weather dips down to 167°F. So something to think about before buying this sandwich plate.
Also, If you're buying the G-Plus oil cooler kit off e-Bay I would also recommend that you buy two 10AN stainless steel braided oil lines. The ones that I installed on the 370Z that come with this kit, leaked on me
This one doesn't look so bad from Drift HQ either:
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Welcome back to my channel. Today I'm swapping in a Greddy Thermostatic sandwich plate, the one that comes with the G-plus oil cooler kit is non-thermostatic, so it had to go. The Greddy one is rated at 180 degree, which means that it should not allow your engine oil temp to drop below that # once it reaches it. This is important because the minimum required oil temp is 180 degrees and should fluctuate between 180-210 for the oil to be lubricating at it's optimum capacity. Pretty easy install since all I had to do was swap the sandwich plates only. Not bad for a $100 dollar part, the G-plus oil cooler kit cost me only $150, so if you were to combo these together it would only run you about $250 + shipping.
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Ok so which oil filter and adapter plug combination did you go with. I currently have “hp-1008” filter and the greddy plate. I have the adapters from the gplus but the greddy quality more but it doesn’t match up with the threads of my filter.
Should my Greddy plate have came with both a M20x1.5 and 3/4 plate adapter plug cause I only got the 3/4 sent to me
Weird, in the link description it says it comes with the M20x1.5 as well, if all you have are the ones from the G-plus use it, I never had issues with them and I ran that adapter for a long time before I switched over to the Greedy stuff
@@MemosGarageAZ yeah I had issues with concept z so I used the part number to get it elsewhere. I contacted the seller cause it only came with the size I can’t use. I’m gonna wait for that cause I saw corrosion on the inside of the gpus plug and wait stainless steel.
I got the mishimoto lines as recommended also , piecing it all together
Last question , which oil filter are you running on your setup and did you have to change from oem thread pitch
@fabianperez6518 cool man, what is the part # for the correct fitting?
I think you're confused to what a thermostatic sandwich plate does vs a non..it is not designed to keep your oil temp stay at 180 degree..that the oil cooler job..the job of the thermostatic one is to block oil from going through the oil cooler until temperature hit 180 degree..this help the engine warm up much sooner and once oil temp hit 180 degree it will open just like any thermostat...
No confusion here, that is correct.
exact problem im having right now with it getting colder outside. I am running the gplus sandwhich plate and it takes time to get up to 180 somtimes it doesnt even hit it. looking for this vid forever. greddy plate cooming soon :)
Right on man, good luck and thanks for watching 😃
Do you think you actually primed the system with the thermostat in? The thermostat isnt going to open until 180F so turning the engine over doesnt do anything. When your oil hits 180F it will open and the lines/radiator didn't have any oil in them.
Actually to my understanding some oil still passes though even when the thermostat isn't open at 180°F, but even if it didn't this is why it's important to fill the oil cooler with oil so that when it does open it'll take less time for oil to completely get to all of the line. Plus getting oil to the engine parts is what I was trying to accomplish since the car had been sitting for a while, so when I turned it over parts wouldn't be completely dry.
What I keep reading, it 10% through cooler cold, 90% to engine. Then when warmed up, it’s flip flopped.
@jonellwanger7258 Hello, yeah something like that
Why does the temp drop with the aircon on?
Hello, because when the AC is on the fans are on constantly, which means they're pulling the heat from the radiator, AC condenser and of course the oil cooler as well.
Ahh ok i was wondering whats the differences . i thought having thermo will keep the car lower temp
Yeah man, non- thermostatic just allows constant flow which means oil temps can drop way below 180°.
Do these plates gets undone when removing the oil filter?
Hello, no need for that, you just remove the oil filter as you do now, easy peasy.
Good info. What are you using to view engine data? What size cooler are you running?
Hello there, I'm using the ECUTEK app and OBDII dongle to view engine data. The oil cooler is a 30 row.
On the sandwich plate and oil cooler is there oil flow direction or it doesn't matter?
Hello, that I know of it doesn't really matter.
Are the two capped fittings also controlled by the thermostat?
Nah, they're on the free flowing side.
@@MemosGarageAZthanks. That works great for what I have planned
I live in Florida so I don’t have much of a problem doing what you did I just need a little bit of clarification. How is the eBay oil cooler holding up ad? What is the bracket in your description for from my understanding I just need the kit and the Z performance sandwich plate?
Hello, everything is holding up just fine, unfortunately the g-plus oil cooler kit doesn't come with a mounting bracket for the 30 row oil cooler, so this is the reason I included the link for the bracket.
Mine leak all out looks like from sandwich plate i have o rings in and tighten down yet it leak all over when i turn the car on any suggestions
You just have to make sure the o-ring is seated correctly on the plate, also add clean oil on the o-ring before you seat it on the oil filter adapter. Tighten down enough so that it's a bit hard to move it with your hand, if you over tighten it it'll squish out from where it's supposed to sit at and it will leak. Hope that helps, good luck.
@@MemosGarageAZ ok thanks
Is z1 thermo sandwich plate good
It looks like it's good quality, it has good reviews and of course Z1 is a very reputable company.
What app are you running on your phone to get those readings???
It's the ECUTEK app, all you need is the ODBII Dongle, the phone app and you're good to go.
Make an oil pressure gauge install
Hi there, it's on my list of things to do for next year 😃
@@MemosGarageAZ do it i will repost and share to every one I know in the g community
Great video - Thanks! Any leaking issues with the G-Plus cooler or hose fittings? I've read they can be problematic.
Do the additional GReddy ports accommodate oil pressure and oil temp sensors as is or do I need to buy screw in adapters?
What oil filter are you running btw? CZP says yo use a Z32 filter since the plate adapter thread pitch is different from a VQ35DE which I have in my 2006 G35.
Hello there, no issues of leaking on any of g-plus cooler or hose fittings, they work great with either the G-plus or Greedy sandwich plates.
The Greddy sandwich plate would need adapters for running oil pressure and oil temp sensor on it, but I've done some reading online about this and the consensus is that for more accurate readings it is best to run off the block, check out this forum thread about accomplishing this:
www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-warranty-scheduled-maintenance-servicing-repairs/104343-oil-pressure-sensor-threads-size.html
This is an example of the adapter needed to do this:
www.maperformance.com/products/squirrelly-oil-pressure-sending-unit-adapter?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIw-PfvpbdgwMV3iKtBh1STQkcEAQYDiABEgKnS_D_BwE
I'm still doing more research on which one or which brand works best for our applications, I would advise you do the same and do some research as well before buying any.
I run the following oil filters on my G and Z:
K&N oil filter: HP-1008 (Preferred)
Mobile 1 oil filter: M1-108A (secondary choice)
Hope that helps and good luck.
Thanks for the in-depth response and the links @@MemosGarageAZ - I really appreciate it! It's good to see that you haven't had any leaking issues with the G-Plus cooler hardware. Hopefully my G35 canyon/HPDE track build goes as well as your two builds have. Thanks again
@synaptik111 No problem man, good luck and hope it all goes well for you.
Is it actually 180 degree? Or farenheit? Some vid says at 130 degree the car start tearing apart. For clarification pls thanks
Hello there, yes the Greddy thermostatic sandwich plate is rated at 180°F, but if you live in constant cold weather I would suggest you either 1. Buy a more high quality one like a Mishimoto one or 2. Do what commenter Navid said about covering half the oil cooler front surface.
nextlevelperf.com/product/greddy-oil-cooler-kit-nissan-370z-infiniti-g37/
So I found this oil cooler kit on the net, looks like it utilizes the sandwich plate in this video and something interesting I found in the description:
"Internal Thermostat opens between 167-180 degrees fahrenheit"
So it seems this thermostatic sandwich plate is actually rated between 167°F-180°F which I can confirm at highway/freeway speeds in hot or cold weather dips down to 167°F. Just sharing interesting info.
Did you say sangwitch?😂
LOL 😂
How are you liking your sandwich plate? I've had the same greddy one for a few months now and its been pretty good. Only thing that worries me is that when I'm at highway speeds when its cold outside like 45f, my oil temp would just sit at a steady 165f. Tried downsizing my cooler but its still got similar behavior. Not sure if I got an unlucky thermostat or something. U have anything similar when its really cold outside?
Hello there, yeah I've noticed similar to what you've described. In the streets I can keep the temps above 180° even in cold weather (about 58° F outside temps), but once I get in the freeway and cruise for a bit it drops to about low 170's. I've also talked to someone else who has the Greddy sandwich plate and he's experiencing about the same. This sandwich plate always allows a bit of oil to pass through even when it's under 180°, but I think most thermostatic sandwich plates are designed that way. So at some point I may have to upgrade to something more expen$ive like Mishimoto thermostatic sandwich plate and see if theirs is better, but for now I can live with this one for $100 😁.
@@MemosGarageAZ good to know I'm not alone and I agree, it works fine for $100. Definitely better than having no thermostat at all. Also If you have any problems with temps on a cold road trip, I've actually been blocking part of my cooler with some aluminum tape over the cold side. Works great
You know what, I was thinking about that today, finding a way of blocking part of the cooler in the winter time. What exactly did you use?
@@MemosGarageAZ 3M Aluminum Foil Tape 3381. Wildly used to make repairs on objects in airspeed environments. Also can't burn up so you can put it directly over the fins of the cooler.
@@navidvasseghi6284 Oh yeah, I have some of those in my garage. So you ended up covering up the entire face of the cooler?
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nextlevelperf.com/product/greddy-oil-cooler-kit-nissan-370z-infiniti-g37/
So I found this oil cooler kit on the net, looks like it utilizes the sandwich plate in this video and something interesting I found in the description:
"Internal Thermostat opens between 167-180 degrees fahrenheit"
So it seems this thermostatic sandwich plate is actually rated between 167°F-180°F which I can confirm at highway/freeway speeds in hot or cold weather dips down to 167°F. So something to think about before buying this sandwich plate.
so i should or shouldn’t get this coil cooler with the thermo plate
@@StreetHeem The G-plus oil cooler and the Greddy thermostatic sandwich plate is a great combo for daily driving and track. Temps out here in AZ have reached the triple digits and my oil temps sit around 190°ish all day long with the A/C running, without the A/C running it bumps up to about 198°.
Did you have to use a different oil filter to accommodate the greddy sand which plate? I’m on concept z and it mentions the threads will be for a Z32 filter
@fabianperez6518 weird, I thought OEM was M20 x 1.5