Why ZENITH is the BEST VR RPG (for now)
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Hi! Virtual Bro here to recommend one of my favorite VR games that I think deserves more attention.
Zenith: The Last City is one of the BEST multiplayer VR games on the Quest 2. It combines the social aspects of VR Chat with some really solid action RPG gameplay and a variety of side activities to do as well, such as cooking, creature catching, and...Connect Four?
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@@abel6298what’s your opinion on CSB?
Trash game
If Zenith got an insane graphic overhaul it might be worth checking out, but when it looks as bad as Roblox for 8 years ago, then it's a nah.
It's a lot easier to socialize in Zenith than in "social games" like Recroom. You can just join some people while they are fighting monsters and they will most likely talk to you and let them join their team.
That’s exactly what I love about it!
Got to the end area like that
This would be true if the player numbers weren't below 20 on average. That's horribly small for anything trying to be a "Massively Multiplayer" Online Role Playing Game.
@@noxinabox3506idk Whatchu mean bro there’s tons of people after the tutorial Island. That’s the point when you shouldn’t been partying up
Rec room is liked for its pvp more than anything
I really wanted to play a mmorpg in vr after watching sword art online I hope this will do thet
A Township Tale is another vr game the aims to be a fun MMORPG.
The game needs a lot of work still, but the crafting system currently present in the game is absolutely amazing and is legitimatly the most satisfying in any game I've played.
Player customization is also a bit better than this.
I hope to see these two games positioned as direct competitors at some point.
Ima pick zenith up again
Cuz i just wiped a 3 week character on deepwoken
I played zenith on release but stopped playing because i had already seen everything and the game just felt unfinished, i might give it a try again now that they added a bunch of stuff
Yeah I gotta say, Zenith is a cool concept but its so spread out between its various systems that all of them individually have the same issue that most VR games have in the sense that you will get bored because its very basic. They really should have focused on making like 6 unique classes that all feel very different and interesting, THEN gone ham on all the side content.
Exactly, that’s my main critique of the game. I always prefer quality over quantity.
Zenith was okay, but it really is a hollow shell of what a VRMMORPG could be with the right talent and an appropriate amount of resources. The dev team behind the game is scrappy to say the least, and that just doesn't cut it in this genre. I'm getting similar vibes from Ilysia.
I have to agree, what really held the game back for me on launch was how rushed it was, I played the entirety of the game at launch and it felt so rushed and the graphics were subpar. They tried so hard to get it on the quest that the game looked horrible on PC. Then there were loads of bugs and the story was heavily incomplete. This game shouldn't have been released yet. I think if they'd have maybe done a large scale open beta rather than a full release the community would've been better off. I really hoped this game would be one of those games that you can sink 1400 hours in easily but it's not. I played both classes all the way through at launch and I only managed 55 hours before I'd seen everything and the game had nothing left to be desired.
I have never played zenith before, however one mmo like Vr game called A Township Tale VR is super polished and doesn’t have half bad graphics. The game also has a really in depth crafting and gathering system.
Absolutely, I tried it for the first time last month and it is just simply not fun,I like the concepts and art, but voice acting is horrid (just a dev in a cardboard box) gameplay is mid, doesn't really explain much to you, and is pretty buggy
@@Clanps how get past elf areA
The day we get an isekai-style vrmmorpg will be the next great videogame revolution
I got this game on launch, I think. I remember playing a bunch, but falling out after a few weeks. Even coming back now, some things just feel...unfinished. Shops have very limited stock and are all in weird places, and the main city feels really empty, but seeing all the new features makes me really want to get back into it. That and the really good cooking mechanics. Also woodcutting.
yeah its been updated a ton! Still definitely a work in progress but I love what they've added!
The dungeons were the end of it for me. Worst dungeon running ever. I use the word "running" because that's all anyone does. Just run as fast as possible to the boss skipping everything..
@@Thezuule1 I mean honestly.. Have you played retail WoW or most other mmos dungeons lately?
My problem with zenith is it's very clearly a dev team without a lot of real mmo experience deciding they were going to be the first "real" vrmmo, and just looking at the old #1 mmo for tips.
The game on release was so bare bones I felt ripped off. I'm glad to see they're still adding features, but I waited a year without seeing the 3rd class they were teasing in the release build, with I believe the only updates being "dungeons" and cooking(at a super rudimentary level)...
The team isn't working fast, reliably, and not even smartly. It's an ambitious game with a team with nowhere near enough skillset. It's a nice reminder of everything to not screw up for an actual team that's trying to make a real game.
I'm a massive mmo addict and I couldn't find a single hook to get me to grind in zenith... Hell I put more hours into a damn blacksmithing vr game than I have zenith, and I normally hate singleplayer experiences...(and this blacksmithing game is literally just a space inside a dungeon underground..)
@@death2foolz182 I honestly haven't and I was hoping Zenith would be the one given my love for all things VR the last few years. I played WoW at a high level for a couple years in my earlier days. Tried to come back to vanilla at one point but it just wasn't there. Made it to about level 35 and just couldn't do it anymore. You can't go home again and all that.. I have to unfortunately agree with your take on this game. Seems like they have some skilled designers just skilled in the wrong areas to take on a project like this. It really lacks the hook to keep you coming back. I was really hoping the dungeon system was going to be it. I wanted an experience where I could log in, queue up, actually grind through a dungeon as a team with coordination and all this.. you know, dungeon crawling, and all I got was a really bad speed running experience where it seemed like it was every man for themselves.
They should just port a good flatscreen mmo to VR. The playerbase is too small to develop a robust mmo just for VR users.
There really should be more VR MMORPGS. I can imagine what it'd be like playing other mmos on vr like Everequest, WoW, Guild Wars, ect.
I thought it would be nice to add in my two cents as a Zenith only creator.
There is a reason I have stuck with this game even when people ask me to branch out, there is nothing like this game, and it only takes one moment for a game to become viral, not only have we not seen that moment but I do believe it will come.
However the vision of the game won't make it popular, games like rec room didn't become popular because you could play frisbee, it's because you could do it with others. There needs to be way more focus on community, even if it doesn't expand the main game.
Ex: The game can be completed solo no problem expect for a few bosses / PvP has no support for any sort of leaderboard or competition and is hidden in the board game tab / Housing has no discoverability / There isn't any support for guild homes or any community areas
I love this game but I don't play it often unless I have a niche moment. 1.3 was great, as someone who doesn't want to grind dungeons for 50 hours, searching for rare creatures and building a house is what is fun to me, lot of creativity and replayability there.
I don't talk about my opinions of the game too much to keep my content decently formal but even though I stick with Zenith there are obvious flaws, and it's addressing those flaws that will improve the game.
(They should've kept super gliding)
Woah hey there! Thanks for sharing your thoughts! It so cool to hear from you, your videos helped me a ton when I started playing again!
Heard township tale is cool
Pog dev
Rip the super glide 😭
I quit when they removed super gliding.
Real talk, i played it for a couple hours a year ago, and just the cooking profession was so damn cool. my buddy and i spent most of our time on the game just doing that. as we were whipping it up, another guy came up and started telling us about all the nuance of the gliding system and then spent another hour just jumping off buildings and playing with the gliding lol. genuinely a cool game, i should get back into it
Same I totally has a similar experience too I should pick it up again!
It's definitely gotten better. There is a lot more to do then on launch.
A shame the weapons that orher players are holding are just floating in the air. Zenith is more like awesome elements of what a mmorpg should have but it missed the basics. Like actually hitting an enemy instead of an avatar which just has points that go down.
Amazing video dude, my personal experience with the game is quite the opposite actually, but I havent played the game for like a year. Last time I played however I got bored very quickly, theres a lot to do, but nothing of you what you can do is particularly fun. Ive played 100 hours of beat saber, and 200 of pavlov. Those games might not be as big in scope as Zenith, but I think they do their job so well that it doesnt matter. Pavlov and Beat Saber really nail their mechanics, I feel like Zenith is trying to be so much more than it really is.
As someone who plays MMO's Zenith is by far the only game ive ever gotten truly bored of. I know they dont have the budget of some of the bigger MMO studios, but it just sucks becuase Zenith is a fantastic social platform, but the MMO part is just not great. I mean Ive never played a game with more boring combat and quests and ive played lots of MMOs.
I really want to like Zenith so you've convinced me to give it another go. This video is well put together so you earned yourself a sub :D
Just hoping I can enjoy it the same as you have! Zenith is 100% the best MMO in VR, but last time I played it it just felt like VR wasnt quite there yet, both with how dead the game was but also becuase of the mechanics. But im gonna be more open minded and try it again
W comment. I agree with everything you said! I definitely look past a lot of Zenith's flaws because I'm just happy to have a decent VR MMO to play. And I definitely agree, I think they definitely could benefit from refining their basic mechanics now that the game is decently large.
I'm the exact same. Let me know if it's much better now.
I only played it for like 5 hours total before I was done with it.
Lots of surface level stuff, but unfortunately nothing about it grabbed my interest. It felt so dull.
The community was nice though. But there just wasn't anything there I wanted to play. Nothing interesting and no depth to get hooked into.
I hope it becomes great in the future. I do appreciate them trying to make a VR mmo rpg. We all want one.
But Zenith just ain't it unfortunately.
Playing since launch. I loved the community and guilds. Then the game slowed down in player growth. Dungeons and raids were cool but got repetitive quickly. Pets are great. I was all about getting a pandowl and hunting for them was my favorite thing. Now im hunting the Dazzling Pandowl and stil having fun. The game paid for it self 50 times over 👍😁
Ofc its gonna get reptitive
Its an rpg
Just got recommended this video. Crazy that this got so many views, and now Zenith is being left behind. I'll never forget you, Zenith
this did not age well lol
What happened?
@@BananaBotanists studio screwed over the game
How?
Are there Anny similiar games ? That r like mmorpg's in vr
Why?
I disagree with your point about beat saber. I TOTALLY agree that most vr games these days are basically an elevated tech demos. but beat saber is not one of them. yeah it's simple but so are other games like csgo, mario kart, hell even chess. its more about feeling complete rather than being complicated. beat saber takes what its trying to do and does it perfectly, theres nothing else needed. Other vr games often have a feeling of "...thats it?" which is the real problem
I definitely agree beat saber is amazing at what it sets out to do, but when you think of all the posibilites for VR, slicing neon blocks seems so lame in comparison to exploring a vast virtual world full of players to meet, enemies to fight, loot to gather and so much more. VR has so much unfulfilled potential and if we only think it’s useful for arcade games then we will never get Tron irl which is secretly all I want hahah
I played Zenith the day it came out on psvr, but wasn't the best first experience because the servers kept crashing and loading and eventually I got into different games, after seeing this video and all the updates they added since I first played, I'm definitely going to get this on my quest! (But I should probably get a better headstrap first lol)
I wish the UI of zenith was more immersive. Like instead of a huge screen in-front of you, it could be a smaller screen like the quest tablet mode.
I totally agree, this is a common complaint from me too! I think all VR games should have immersive menus that are more creative than just pointing and clicking.
Looks ambitious, janky, and great! One small step closer to Ready Player One. I love some of the locomotion mechanics like gliding, grappling hooks, and ziplines. Those are really fun in VR.
The game does seem cool but I'm not sure I want Ready Player One, it's a bit of a dystopia
Realistically the only thing that is close to Ready Player One would be VRChat, reason is there is a million of different worlds to visit, from recreations of SAO, to Nightclubs, Horror games and ballrooms with actuall teachers, or even Disney like castles and Cyberpunk worlds. Anything you can imagine.
Craziest thing is I've actually known people to get in relationships IRL from meeting in VR, just like in the movie XD
It's a great first step, I'm sure many Korean and Japanese MMO developers are keeping a close eye on it to see what to do and not do for an MMO VR game. If even one of those developers that are coming out with really visually stunning MMOs makes a VR one it's gonna be HUGE
The issue is vr and regular are very different, physics and motion sickness are huge factors.
Especially since the quest is a popular VR headset sadly.
That thing has like 40 million users, so it bricks visual fidelity.
This is the type of game I let and grow while I forget about it and a couple years later I come in and go absolutely nuts!
This game wasn't bad, it definitely had combat elements down pat for what it is and my mates and myself enjoyed it however we had to stop playing it, 2 minor patches and stuff was becoming more and more broken with chests clipping through walls, npcs missing, tears (collectibles) not even rendering with half an eye invis and the other eye pink with missing texture. It's sad we had to put this one down and we'll definitely return if they fix these things. One of the most important aspects of an rpg is the experience along the way and this game was doing it well.
This game had a lot of potential. Shame it got held back by the standard MMO fare that makes it repetitive and boring. Didn't see the point of playing after maxing two characters to level 40. Uninstalled after not playing for almost a year. Don't see a point of playing it again. If anything, a bowl of tepid diarrhea is more engaging and immersive, no offense to the diarrhea.
this didnt age well
As one of the people who was able to play in the betas and since launch, this game has come a long way. I love seeing how people understand how big of an achievement this game really is and are enjoying the experience. Great video!
If you want another one of those hard to find “complete” vr games then I cannot recommend “Into The Radius” enough.
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Good choice, that game has a lot of meat on its bones. VERY well done overall experience, and I still get goosebumps playing it.
Try A Township Tale. Probably one of the best games i have ever played for vr. Very similar to this game actually
I'm starting to realize that VR isn't for serious enthusiasts anymore, it's increasingly geared towards 8-year-olds with unattentive parents. The fact that a cartoonish game like this is "one of the best" was exceptionally disheartening to read, on a level that has me seriously questioning what people think VR is. Or what they want it to be. Because if it keeps up with crap like this, I'm going back to flat screen.
Sad to see people judge a game solely based on the graphics…
@@VirtualBroVR Wasn't talking about the graphics, I was talking about the whole game. Although the graphics certainly are cartoonish.
This video is an interesting perspective of someone who sees Zenith as a "VR social experience with extras" and not as as a full fledged RPG. Definitely not to say that point of view is wrong, but for people who look at it as a game first instead, there's a lot of other issues with it beyond just crafting and performance.
The best and worst thing about Zenith is the fact that it's a VR title (and available directly on Oculus). It's one of the few titles of it's kind in VR, but it makes development a lot more expensive and limited to a standalone headset's hardware, limited reach due to VR being expensive. They originally (and still do?) planned to bring it to Desktop, however the gameplay doesn't stand up to any other desktop MMORPG.
Combat is bland and repetitive, enemy AI is horrible and randomly walks away in the middle of melee combat or through walls, you can parry (not an explained mechanic) some telegraphed attacks and not others, the tutorial doesn't cover even 20% of the existing systems or even point to you how to reach them (for example in the video you had to explain to your new player friend how to grab the multitool as the game doesn't tell you, and unless you've played other VR games you're stuck).
It's a solid 4/10 game all things considered.
zenith is ok but replay value is low. I don't even think I made any videos of it and I only been posting videos for like seven months my favorite VR games right now are gun raiders, Blade & sorcery, zero caliber, and those are my top 3 picks The Walking Dead part one and part two could be great but they need more stuff to do they should put more side games in there. give it to mod io and have them creat some co op games. part one has survival mode but only 3 maps no updates or anything & part 2 is a hot mess I would not recommend buying it because they have never tried to fix it! The fact is the talent for making video games is not present in these no frill companies that work for meta. if blade sorcery had zenith size map and replaced all the enemies with enemies from that game that would be an awesome game it's like they see how good blade and sorcery is but it doesn't have any content in the game and that's the first game I bought meta should buy it from the creators and then use it to make 20 games out of what they created from that one game just like all the games that copied Fortnite or call of duty did but instead they waste money hiring people to talk good about games that suck. I'm not saying that's what's going on here I'm just saying I have hardly ever seen a video talk good about a VR game and then I played it and I was like yeah that guy was right .
BRO COVERS GENUINELY GOOD VR GAMES. subbed instantly, never heard of this or you but I’m locked in with you now.
Wow! Thank you! More to come!
Such game would be cool when Full Dive VR comes along.
Yeah no. This is the worst rpg I have ever played. I hate only having a singular weapon for my class and only a singular armor. I hate having the same tools for the entire game. This game has no progression visually. No progression mechanically. It gets stale so quickly because literally nothing changes except the area you are in.
Its crazy that SAO the game in the anime came out in 2022 and Zenith came out at 2022 too lmao
i love this game but i wish the mage had a staff or just used the hands instead of just guns basically
Zenith is straight trash with boring graphics, zero physics, and lame combat.
I wish it was free
My friend bought it to me so for me it was free 😅
@@litay5 your really lucky I can't afford games like this :(
@@conzo4437 sorry
I wish everything was free
@@conzo4437you can pirate the game
now I just gotta convince my friend to drop 30 dollars
you should try a township tale its alot like this game but a lot better in my opinion its also free
wait this is like the coolest thing ever, why has no one else attempted to make a VR MMO yet
There are only a few! But I definitely agree, it seems to be the perfect genre of game for VR.
There a game called orbusvr reborn that’s been out for like 5 years and it’s really fun
Because this game isn’t so good. I played it at launch and went through the world. It’s pretty soulless. I tried going back a few months ago and tried a new tutorial section they added. That section made me quit the game it was so bad.
@@XPhobic76I had a similar experience and felt like the game just wasn't nearly polished or optimized enough for me to want to dive in to the time commitment yet, but with all the updates so far and all that are planned I might be convinced to get back in. I'm hoping it will be like the VR version of no man's sky and become unrecognizable from it's launch state. Isn't it still technically in "beta"?
I feel like a game like this fully optimized for quest 3 level hardware or higher is when VR MMOs will really get their footing.
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Tldr: this is a fun game that is worth the buy in price. The devs aren't great about fixing bugs, but if you make friends with a late game player, you will be able to side step the major annoyances. One thing the devs are very focused on is expansion of the game, so if nothing else you have lots to do.
The biggest thing is that you need to find someone who knows the game early on. There are a lot of bugs that can soft block new players, and even though they've been around for ages, the devs are slow to do anything about it.
A prime example is the traveling merchant in skyland. The hut needs to be built like many other things by contributing resources you collect in the game. I repeatedly fed resources, some rare, some not, to this damn hut and have nothing to show for it. It was to the point I was about to quit the game for the second time to shelve it for another few months to give the devs time to work on it, when a friendly player ran by and helped me out. The problem being, there are some buildings in the area that are time locked and you do have to keep feeding them resources to use them. This was not one of those buildings, but there was nothing differentiating it from the other so until a more knowledgeable player took pity on me and corrected my ways, I was doomed to waste materials I didn't know the value of yet.
This is one of many such bugs that can easily end your playthrough with a very negative impression of the game. However it was this mishap that also led me to one of the better parts of this game, the community. I was playing solo as I tend to do with a lot of MMOs so I can get a feel for the mechanics myself, but given the current state of the game this is just not advisable. Luckily there is a fairly friendly community and given the devs utilize the toxmod system, they are generally respectful and helpful. You will get the odd 10 year old spewing obscenities or being intentionally annoying, but the game has a built in ignore, block, and reporting system that allows you to mute players at the click of a button. Thankfully due to this system and the genuine love most players have for this game, the former is more common than the latter.
All in all, as the the reviewer stated, this is a big game, but not a pretty one. You certainly have a lot to do, but as with most MMOs, a lot of it is busy work. The benefit to playing a VRMMO though, is that you are experiencing it all in first person, and with your own "hands". The fighting systems specifically are pretty well flushed out at this point and can get pretty fun in later game aspects like raids and dungeons. As with any VR game there are struggles outside of the ones the game intentionally throws at you like tracking issues and hitbox interactions, but overall it is an engaging experience.
We have this amazing new VR tech that is accessible and yet i feel like i am playing on a 20 year old Everquest2 server, lol. Beggars cant be chosers though. I will probably give this a go.
This game runs so much better and looks so much crisper on the PSVR2…it’s fun all around for all systems tho
Eventually getting bored of beat saber? When is that supposed to happen? I'm still playing it after years. The other games that copy beat saber without improving on its concept or allowing for custom songs do get boring fast, though.
If only custom songs were available or easily accessible on Quest. You could only play Guitar Hero for so long until you’ve seen all there is to it. Even adding songs doesn’t change the core experience that drastically. And in a medium as limitless as VR, I think there is the potential for way deeper experiences. Beat Saber is inarguably the best at what it does, it’s just that what it does is very limited in scope.
Okay now I wont lie the link between sao and when this game came out is weird
I'm planning to buy the quest 3 and already thinking on what to play on there and after watching this video, Zenith is definitely high on my list now. It is only sad it cost (just as beat saber) $30, so I think I first need to choose between this and beat saber and I think I'm first going for Zenith maybe, because it looks amazing and lots of fun! Thank you for sharing and the great video! Keep up the good work!
Zenith is a bad buy for $30 especially if you don’t have friends to play with. I never really liked beat saber but if you do get that instead of zentih
You can start by exploring all the nice free games on vr, population one, pavlov, vr chat, ultimechs, rec room etc there are nice videos listing and showing free vr games
Dont listen to that guy, ive been playing zenith for one day going on two days, i went into this game with no friends who own VR headsets. Ive made 15 friends on zenith alone, its not a ghost town and the community is so friendly. Its a really fun game ans people are kind and willing to help.
@@bxile730 listen to me dont get for $30 maybe if sale for 50% off
Zenith is very mid, and if you don’t have friends to play with it’s ass
There is a similiar game called Township Tale and it's free
why im watching so much vr games videos i dont even have a vr headset
Its similar to a township tale, but zenith did it better
this is the reason i stoped playing zenith for a while i wanted to wait for a whole bunch of new things so i can just grind my heart away
It's definitely worth hopping into again!
Yeah… it looks definitely good. I’m more of a “open-world… but-linear-story” guy… this is just too expansive and the graphics ARE something I take into consideration. My two favorite games are “Star Wars: Tales from the Galaxy’s Edge” and “The Walking Dead Saints and Sinners”… it’s fun, exiting, the graphics are good and they are good games. Although I’m thinking of buying that sword game from your first video, that looks just like the PvP Vr game I would like.
If you like those games you should check out Into the Radius! I'll be covering it soon but its one of the most realistic open world games out there!
Basically sword art online vr but you can log out
exactly!
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wut
This channel made me want to pick my oculus back up!
I hope more people will be giving the game a shot with the 2.0 update! A lot of people seem to get bored after a while, which i understand, but i think the main thing always bringing me back are the people. Make some friends, join some community events and you'll fall in love again, at least that's what I think ^-^
this video reminds me of runescape. chopping trees doing dungeons and upgrading armor n weapons
I really want this game to succeed and will be buying it today to do my part. We need the little mmorpgs in the VR community to thrive
i played zenith when it came out, grinding it out and stopped playing since then. but i havent realized how muuch bigger it became
I'm glad you brought up performance on Quest 2. After the most recent updates it's far worse than it used to be (in my opinion). I notice frame drops way more consistently then when the game launched. Makes it hard to spend large amounts of time in the experience.
makes me want runescape vr lol
Everyone talks about Sword Art Online, but I've watched 100's of animes where the entire world starts to revolve around some sort of VR RPG game where real life feels like the game. The main character then continues to exploit the entire world and gets 1000000's of Yen like no one else. I can't wait until something of actual high quality appears and there becomes a large skill gap and like 30 classes to choose from just like the animes. Right now we just aren't there yet.
Zenith on quest is definitely not graphical, but on PCVR, it looks insanely good, its the most beautiful game I have played.
im excited to see AI get to the point where it can develop and update a MMORPG to degrees we as humans cant keep up with
I loved this game. Haven’t played in almost half a year due to my eyes. I loved playing chess with friends. I might have to come back and try out the cyber ninja
Didn't they get crazy investors? Like $45M in 2022 iirc?
Zenith and the best of VR?
Bruh. This must be sponsored, noone with a sane mind would say it's more than mediocre at best.
that game had a lot of hype during it's launch, there wasn't enough server for everybody on day1 but now it's empty
It looks cool and might dust of my VR to try it out. But we need that MMO that makes people buy VR on mass to be able to play it. Heres hoping we get that in the next year or so but i think its more like 5 years off but heres hoping 😊
when I see this game I realise that it will take 20 years for a pokemon game ...with good graphic
Underrated youtuber of the month award goes to Virtual Bro Reviews
Used to grind this game then it got old might go back now I’ve seen the new features
This aged well lol
Beat saber is realy simple and limited in scope?
Realy simple:
- Just no
Limited in scope:
- As every other existing rythm game, but they don't need much else to be enjoyable for years.
There is no gameplay variety other than different songs and colors. Don’t get me wrong, I love rhythm games and think they work super well in VR. It’s just that virtual reality is capable of presenting much more in-depth and immersive experiences. Entire WORLDS to explore, objects to interact with, stories to be told. Why limit yourself to standing in one place slicing blocks? Fruit Ninja is also fun but it’s no Skyrim.
Zenith is most definitely not the best of VR. That would be, and you can take your pick: Beat Saber, Elite: Dangerous (Horizons), No Man's Sky, Skyrim VR and since recently Portal 2 VR. Zenith was really lackluster and hasn't changed much since launch. Honorable mentions are Until You Fall and ARK-ADE.
I think this game looks and feels like old school Runescape which is exciting to see because hopefully it also serves at the OG good game for VR in the future.
Good point, I think so!
Walked into the game looking for SAO, met some other newbies and went on a baby quest, had the virtual mmo combat and team experience, needless to say i got my SAO. I can tell i’m gonna sink tons of hours.
is this just like futuristic skyrim or sum
Skyrim VR goes crazy actually
This game is SO bad optimized and desgined that I'm shocked that so many people call it a "good game".
-The resolution on Quest 2 is disgusting..the lowest resolution on Quest 2 that's possible and a lot of aliasing everywhere.
-The basics are not good: Walking is not smooth, gluiding is bugged right now and let's you very slowly falling with almost no movement
-Enemies are worse that a beginner unity demo
-UI is messy and not dessigned correctly for VR.
-Textures, NPCs, and visuals in general are too low quality(The ambientance is not super bad, but each element on its own is very bad)
..just don't tolerate such low standars. We need to ask for more and not call a bad optmized and desgined game "the best of VR" because that's insulting
I bet it's a fun game, but I just wish it looked better... If Genshin Impact can run on a phone, imagine how good VR games could look when optimized properly. I'd like a VR mmorpg that looks at least as good as WoW
is this a VIRTUAL RAGNAROK version? damn can't imagine how the game changes every year..
If you actually play this game, its really boring. Every challenge or objective consists of you either killing x amount of y monster (and the combat is really clunky, boring, and repetitive), or holding your hand over an object so a yellow check mark will show up on your screen. And there's more yellow checkmark quests than any other quest in the game I swear. The game is really clunky and laggy too. And there are no combat physics.
Nah, Zenith is just not a good game and its clearly not a good mmorpg.
Edit: You should check Orbus VR, it's ugly and old but it makes things just way better.
Solid foundation, but zenith REALLY needs more.... Something? Idk i just kinda lost interest real fast
Just another example of how the quest ruins games. You want better quality? Don't play on a quest. PCVR had a great trajectory before the quest came and ruined all the games we have now. Games like Onward used to be fantastic on the PC and then they downgraded their own game just so they could sell to quest kids.
OMG ZENITH HASNT DIED!!! They took a bunch of great things out on one update and the clan I’m in stop getting on to play and so did a lot of other people but seeing this!!! I’m going to get on later
I must both agree and disagree with you on this game.
Zenith... had a great idea, but implemented it really poorly. The UI is messy and feels like it was made for a flatscreen game. There is a lot of glitches, (a friend of mine was continiously falling off the world, i was seing bodyless people constantly and more). The PVE feels horrible, there is no impact to it, you are just hitting non stop and there is no difficulty to it whatsoever.
It is just not immersive at all, from the UI to the combat and limited interactions with the world. Half of the time you don't know what are you doing or where are you headed. The new tutorial island is the worst area of the game and that is supposed to introduce you to the game itself... Honestly it was so dissapointing that i bought it for nothing.
I would argue that the best social experience that you can get in VR would be VRChat. I have tried every single social vr game/platform to this point and VRChat is the only one that I keep returning to.
The craziest thing about it is that people are developing games within it, there is a literal recreation of SAO being developed in this moment(Project Aincrad), and it is rough and still early, it has a big portion of the area of begginings done, the UI functions just like in the anime, and there is combat though it is as simple and glitchy as in Zenith for now. But that is just one of the millions of user created worlds that you can find in VRChat.
Really suggest checking it out.
Cheers!
Your praise of the game is it's a vrmmo. You don't seem to be recognizing the idea that vr gamers have played pc mmos. You could mention the combat, for example, and that would go a long way. I can accept that it's going to be meh, or even bad, but i'm curious as to what's good about the game. I need more than, "other people play it."
I really just need more classes. No MMO should release with anything less than 5 classes... My main issue was I didn't really like the magic class, and my body just can't do the sword-flailing stuff without some serious damage.
I need to try that archer class..
May I ask HOW THE HECK DO YOU NOT HAVE A MILLLION SUUUUUUBS??? Underrated champ.
I don't get why the graphics is so poor... I mean... if you do a fucking vr game... do it with a graphics that give you a little more the impression to be in a new world... like this I could probably vomit playing this game...
i always feel like most vr games are like a jigsaw puzzel pieces that only together can be the best vr expirience half life alyx shows us how good a vr game can look Blade & sourcery, boneworks and bone laps show us how good vr gameplay can be and games like vr chat and zineth show us that it can work in an large multiplayer sacle my thoughts on zenith are that vissualy it looks like crap the combat is mid at best but the exploration the gliding the cooking mechanics are amazing at the fact thats an freaking VR mmo blows my mind to this day the game has potentail and needs a lot of TLC and i wish for it to get it
I just need some friends to play this with, Ive been playing for a long time I think I’m a level 30 ish, already in the discords and stuff, it’s just hard for me to socialize and make friends :’)
If this video doesn’t convince you, don’t trust the reviews(mostly) it’s pretty much just people complaining about the grinding and removing a movement glitch, so if you’re fine with all the grinding, then you should definitely get it
I really don't know why there are not more games like this. It doesn't make much sense. I think what happened was when VR first came out with the quests 1 a lot of the players only played shorter VR games and separated the social and story driven aspects of games. I think a lot of the VR developers don't have budgets like the big flat screen developers therefore they had to choose the lane in which their game would go. I think this was a big mistake and bottlenecked most games... even to this day. I think that if they want VR to become as mainstream as normal flat screen games they need to start making bigger and better games. This will pull a much bigger crowd and the VR community can grow to the size which it should be. If you are a gamer and love flat screen games then VR is for you. They just don't know how much they will enjoy it because the games they see for VR don't reflect the games they play on Flat screen. I think if they had to do a VR version of zombies from COD with the easter eggs and all the other bells and whistles they will start to bring in a new market to the VR crowd.
Framee drops. Crashes. Toxic community, lack of endgame content with speed runners clearing the game under 10 hours.
Id rather play rec room
You've earned my sub with this video, keep up the great content!
Thank you so much! :)
I'am Waiting For The Day That Sword Art Online Gets Released...
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I tried zenith when it released and I didnt like it. the combat was very simple and kinda boring... thats as far as I got. I played orbis vr previously and that had some more interesting combat but still limited in conetent and felt repetitive. so far I dont think vr mmos are quite there yet.
My biggest complaint with the combat was that it never felt like it mattered what skill I used at any given moment. I've only played DPS mage so maybe I'm missing something but there's no rotation or anything that seems to make sense. Abilities should stack and flow with one another. Cast X to lower defenses, hit Y to get a DOT going, spam Z to proc whatever while making sure to keep X and Y refreshed. Basic MMO combat 101 stuff. There's no crowd control abilities, no this triggers that, no anything you'd expect from combat in an MMO.
Zenith shows how well a MMORPG would work in VR but it's just too simple and very shallow.