ZENITH - The $35,000,000 Mistake!
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- How did we have so much hype & Hope for a game that failed at delivering on its promises. While the MMO portion of the game seemed promising, the devs have abandoned it, leaving behind a Zenith Lite version, and disappointment.
VR WAVE custom VR Lenses!
bit.ly/RedDevi...
Use my code "reddevilstudios" to get 5% Off!
A HUGE THANK YOU TO MATT THE MF TANK HILEMAN FOR EDITING THIS ONE!
Zenith Vr RUclips
/ @zenithmmo
Zenith VR Referrals on discord for in game prizes!
discord.zenith...
Ilysia VR Blog
ilysiavr.com/
Channel Merch!
red-devil-stud...
Patreon $2 Pledge
www.patreon.co...
Contact me!
VanHilemanMedia@gmail.com
__________________________________________________________________
Chapters
0:00 Intro
__________________________________________________________________
#ZenithMMO #zenithvr #Zeniththelastcity
#IlysiaVR #Ilysiammo #Ilysia
#vrmmorpg #VRRPG #VRgames
#OculusQuest2 #MetaQuest2 #MetaQuest3
#RedDevilStudios #RedDevilVR #RDS
#VirtualReality #VR #Virtualrealityvideos
__________________________________________________________________
Giveaway details
To enter you just Subscribe and like at least one video.
If you comment you get one entry
if you like a video you get one entry
if you share the video, you get one entry.
A random winner will be chosen.
More details to current giveaway will be posted in discord, RUclips in future videos, and the community page. 
Игры
![Tee Grizzley - Robbery 8 [Official Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/34_vkNV6wrU/mqdefault.jpg)
![BabyChiefDoit - Too Slow (feat. STAR BANDZ) [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zayaxws7RPg/mqdefault.jpg)
People complain about subscription based models and also freemium MMOs - but also don't understand why a MMo that doesn't do either fail.
If they started regularly patching Zenith: Nexus I would jump back into the game, but most of my friends have stopped playing and Zenith: Infinite Realms doesn't interest me much and I can't see how Infinite Realms will convince many people to buy the (now) paid DLC. On top of only fixing bugs when they were game-breaking, to me it seems that they never developed a coherent design and new features were just slapped on haphazardly.
If they resumed patching I would jump back in as well. My guild popped in for some nostalgia world boss runs and the gameplay was disappointing. Everyone kept getting punted across the map.
I could have done more with less funding
The announcement of infinite realms killed it for me, so i did not even try it. The new movement like railing and jump n run style they went with just didn't appeal to me. They should've focused on the base game and fix all the bugs. I could'nt progress on the main quest two times because of bugs and eventually stopped playing at all. The were also very few people so it felt more like a single player experience anyway. Is there any VR mmo you have high hopes for?
Such a tough situation. I know the game was not a financial success and never achieved the vision that was first offered to us, but I still enjoyed the game very much and I will remember it as one of the best experiences I have had in gaming. My two most played games ever are Orbus and Zenith, so I think I can confirm that VRMMORPGs are by far my favorite genre, even in these very much not AAA games. The frustrating thing is that I seem to either be in a very small minority or just the vast majority of gamers haven't given the genre a chance. Either way, the fact is that great cutting edge VRMMOs will cost many millions to make and there is no evidence that it could possibly make back that budget right now. I worry we are now in a waiting game for all the current kids that have VR to grow into adults and want bigger experiences. That is kind of what happened in video game between 1980 and 2000.
RIP Zenith
I played like you from alpha through IR. I had a beautiful Guild. Honestly I would play it again (the old Zenith obviously) the problem is that since IR was released the old game is unplayable, broken. Full of bugs. The old Zenith would have been enough for me, without further updates, my beautiful virtual world to enter and do crazy things with my Guild between one boss and another. Unfortunately it is not feasible and I am sure that the old Zenith was broken on purpose..
💯
From the get go, I was always upset at the lack of class options. I didn't like either class until the release of the cyberninja, and I didn't like that class either. Even if the classes seemed much more bland in Ilysia, I was still happy with the level of customization I had to make a character how I wanted playstyle wise.
I don't feel like Geographically, the game was designed well either. The fact that they made a whole new starter zone segregated from the rest of the map was an additional oof. There were so many secondary skills and hobby stuff I wanted to see expanded past the second starting zone, that just never did. TBH, when I think of a perfect MMO in VR at this point, I think of more a Runescape of VR that is focused on crafting and stuff like a much bigger Township Tale but with an actual world and the capability to support more players. No open world house building though, even desktop mmos seem to mess that up. I just want an actual interesting world to explore with friends, but it feels like many VRMMOs are failing the most basic of stuff. The world is uninteresting, they try to add a mediocre mainquest, then abandon it, etc.
VRMMO developers need to stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Make an early 2000's era MMO but in VR and they will be rolling in money. Anything else is extra.
Their biggest mistake was releasing an unfinished game. When Zenith was launched it was more like a prototype than anything, and they really never finished their MMO. Not enough classes, no player economy, the crafting was very superficial (besides cooking).
I also think that for the current VR player base, keeping a Theme Park MMO alive would require a lot of development effort, and if you don't have any monetization after the initial purchase, how else would you be able to make money out of it?
I think a sandbox MMO with lots of social features would be healthier for a VR MMO, and much easier to keep the game afloat since you wouldn't require so much effort with the constant influx of features and content to keep the players busy.
In any case, I really hope other companies will consider everything that happened to Zenith to avoid the same mistakes. And hopefully what happened to Zenith will not scare other game studios to try to develop a VR MMO...
It's hard to believe that to this day we don't have a good VR MMO
no real deep character customization and cosmetics is truly insane....like how
Hot take: This game was NEVER going to take off with a measly two classes to play. It was a neat tech demo and that's it.
The core gameplay loop of Zenith was boring. The enemies and combat in general was not fun, and there was basically nothing appealing or fun to do with the open world. MMO's require insanely massive budgets with large teams, but the VR market isn't big enough to support it, regardless of the monetization options.
also, zenith's monetization model is something no mmo (vr or not) has survived on before anyway
They had such a good thing going only for them to flush it all down the drain. The way they shifted focus away from the MMO after laying a foundation of what was to come in the MMO has lead me to never put faith in this company again. The VRMMO market is so scarce right now that they could of bee the WOW of the vr world. Such a shame. After the announcement of their new direction I basically said farewell and uninstalled the game. I put a lot of time into Orbus and Zenth and now I'm just waiting for my new home of a VRMMO...
I didn't play much but had a solid time despite some of the weird quirks & bugs.
Hoping to see something like Zenith in the future. Really brought back the nostalgia of Phantasy Star
The sad thing is this game is totally fixable! It's just will the devs do what the community wants and will the players even come back after what they did do the game? 🤷🏻♂️
Many former players claim they would come back and support monetization efforts for TLC. Granted the numbers might not be significant enough to turn things around but it would be nice to see Ramen at least test the waters.
I still say, the dev teams of Ilysia, Zenith, Oathbreakers, and A Township Tale need to collaborate to make THE vrmmorpg
Each team has specific strong points that'd all shine if brought together
And dead it is indeed, they just announced that they are stopping any support to zenith.
Makes me wonder if Ilysia has any chance of surviving
The new player experience is the worst I've ever seen. I wanted to play the mmo so I downloaded and installed Zenith. I was stuck in a small city which told me how to control my character. It didn't tell me how to exit the city. I found a path where I could kill a few enemies and that was it. That was the entire game. Later I found out that when you start the game a second time then you get the option to actually access the mmo instead of infinite realms. This was such a bad experience that I lost any faith in the game having a future so now I have zero interest in playing the mmo anymore. I wasted hours in this stupid city not knowing what to do.
I stopped coming back after testing infinit Realms. Before I would hopp on every once in a while not only when totally new content dropped but also to do some dungeons for new gear or just getting a new pet whenever it dropped.
There is a new mmo rpg that’s coming out called sword island it looks really good and has a bunch of potential
That sounds really cool you should drop a link if you have one
i quit playing this game because of the updates. its not the game i payed for and i wish i can get my money back but thats way to late
Games still seems to be active, they had another update a month ago, personally I bought it in a Humble Bundle so got it cheap but only played it for a couple of months and got bored with it!
It's true that infinite Realms is receiving updates and I see regular players on that side of the game the MMO side of the game seems to be completely dead which is very unfortunate
I stopped playing very early on due to the combat and quest structuring, and the fact that cooking was the most fleshed out part of the game.
the problem with zenith is that they were less focused on making the game itself and more focused on making a social platform, and it even failed at that, its rlly said how it turned out considering how promising it was even starting out on reddit with the early concept art
I used to play this game all the time but when they went on a banning spree and changed the game to what it is now. I stopped playing. If they continue the old main game they call a dlc now I would go back to it. But until then its not for me. Sad the game went that way had alot of promise and potential.
i just started playing a bit of the game. i'm still quite new, so i can't say i understand the whole thing going on, but i will give it my best.
there some stuff i want to make a quick comment on, just to inform people about, so we don't lose this fantastic game!
i got in chat with one of the admins saying:
"Eventually we came to the conclusion that we needed to take a step back and look at what was working and what wasn't. This is what started shaping what IR (infinite reams) became, we opted to try to capture a new audience since the majority players did not want to dedicate the time to an MMO the way we had hoped. The idea behind IR is that it could capture a different kind of player and that would allow us to sustain both games financially."
the games is not done yet, IR is kind of fortnite's battle royal.
it's there to make sure both will get the chance to thrive.
saying: "its dead and a waste of a lot of money" is a shame cause it kills the game, we want to save.
its backed up by this comment from the same guy:
"Players have their reasons and thats fine. The part that I think is more harmful is when some players create hate for IR because they believe that we will fall back to TLC. This is not the case, review bombing and creating a negative atmosphere wont save TLC it will just put us in a place that will make it fail."
all in all a great video, but i wish it could be more positive, cause it's really great!
"For a new player to join TLC there is a ton of content to play etc, but IR is not necessarily meant to be liked by every TLC player. It is meant to capture new players to help save TLC"
I always said making a game is one thing and maintaining the game is another something different.
I certianly enjoyed that style of game and long for another for the quest.
I stopped playing this like a month after it came out. Caped out at level 29 and got bored
I'm a new time player here. I'm actually hopeful there's a recovery. Zenith is still the best VRMMO out there. Even if the devs are going in the wrong direction, investment is good.
I would be more hopeful if they didn't flat out cancle the development of the MMO side of the game. Barring that statement I would still cover a lot of content and just basically tell people to wait until they come out with the next part of the game. However unfortunately because they've decided to stop developing on the MMO version no matter how good it is right now it will never get any better. Sad because I really like this game and a lot of the work that went into it
I haven't played since launch so it's sad to seen the end of zenith when I wanted to go back when content had more time to build and polish
Disgraceful how customers have been blamed for its demise. Devs should be allowed to intercede to save the game. Ramen VR just want to make money from another 'New Game Of The Year'.
Subscription model is always the best for MMORPGs. It aligns the developers goals with the players. Cosmetic shop is not that great even though its profitable, it incentivizes the best armor in the shop. In an MMO earning looks is everything.
I love how he said. I'll put a link in the description if anyone's interested. Proceeds to never put a Link in the description also one thing could have resolved this problem on release and that would have been a monthly fee, making people pay a monthly fee for the game instead of a initial one-time payment. I guarantee 4 years after 2024. The game would still be relevant if they would have started out that way.
which link did I miss? let me see if i can get that fixed for you. Thanks for watching!
Got back into the game yesterday and had no clue what was going on it looks nothing like release
I have been playing Zenith Nexus since the start, this game was so much fun and entertaining, but at a certain point, it all gets repetitive, kill enemies get reward, repeat. Its like Blox Fruits in a way.
The class customization is great, able to suit your playstyle of choice, but the weapon limitations are very high, If we had a custom weapon builder, with level limitations, that would be way cooler, the only way people can be unique is by choosing the Support class
This game might shut down soon, and the way the game turned around is insane, the bad type, and me, my brother, and my friend all dont like that.
This game is also very laggy, if there was optimizations, that would be amazing, I really want to play with my brother, but he can't even download it for being 8 GB, we were not able to play together because we were on a linked account, and now that we are on seperate accounts now, I want to play with him.
This game might be hopeless, the amount of issues that are there make the game unplayable.
The game feels single player because there are almost no players, and the community makes me feel left out because im Level 9, I really hope this game can be recovered, but maybe not because the production of updates has stopped.
Also, when the player reaches 15, they get lost, thinking that the only way to level up, is by doing raids in the starter area, its terrible, the way it tries to tell the players where to go, its unspecific and unforgiving.
Should've given the money to ilysia VR
You should reaally look into Eldramoor. Its being developed by ex Zenith & Orbus devs.
Their goal is to be the golden standard and a proper push for the vrmmo market. (Not to be the best, like Zenith's was.)
I definitely will do you have any links?
@@RedDevilVR might be awaiting approval; but i sent the link
can you try to resend the link?
Just bought this and haven't played it yet. Now I'm pissed and probably going to delete it. Was looking for a SAO type game. 😒
Yes man that's exactly one of the problems I've been trying to race with them changing this game is that they've been advertising it as an MMO for so long that people are still buying it under the pretense that they're going to be getting to play an MMO Style game which they will in an empty game that will receive no more updates which sucks I really think they should have just added infinite Realms to the MMO side of the game but who knows what could have helped this game
main problems on zenith , like you noticed, after shitshow lvl scaling update, it just too hard , zenight need to lower game difficulty a lot, not long ago i jumped in zenith and did die for two 10 lvl lower mobs , this is just stupid, i know soo many peoples who stop playing after 7-10 lvl because combat is hard, unrewarding and simply draining, same for quest, you take quest ant it say " kill 10 mobs" and i know it will take like 15 min to get pinch of xp doing more work then i do in my real work ...
Wait update video
these ppl that take the money and run are so stupid, these people freak out once they start making alot of money and tend to make horrible mistakes or become complacent, they also ruin the industry for other up and coming devs.
Id hop on randomly for the MMO but when i heard it isnt i just uninstalled
I'm calling bull shit. There's no way you could be that involved with this game while getting so many things wrong.
@@Sirveaux yeah that's not true at all we can be very involved with the making of this game while being given very little say or power in the situation. Also you can see by the many videos that I've created on the topic that even in some of those we address these issues way back . Also what specifically do you think we got wrong about the game? What exactly are you trying to call BS on even? It's a known fact that we've been one of the primary channels covering this game since its Inception part of testing and attending content creator meetings with the developers in order to test content that would be coming out or gather and discuss player concerns and things they wanted added to the game.
That’s why att is better
honestly, i bought the game 2 weeks be for they made it ftp, an i really regret getting it, after sinking a few hundred hours into it? its boring...
No it wasn't. Lol. It was never going to be anything but a little project by a few people. MMO is used so loosely now that it's lost all it's meaning.
$35 million is hilarious.
Concept was good but execution was bad...
They just had absolutely no idea what they were doing...
They were way too slow with updates...
The combat was terrible...
Having only 2 classes was extremely stupid design...
They didn't even have the brains to give the tanks a shield...
They didn't incorporate full body tracking...
There was no desktop compatibility which limited players...
They didn't have healer classes...
There was no dodge mechanics...
There were zero social activities or reasons to socialize...
There was no pvp...
Endgame content was non-existent...
There was zero replay-ability...
The only part of the game that was great was the exploration aspect...
After you explored the map and found all the tears the game was over...
They offered no reason to play more...
SOME people played the second class but getting the tears again was a chore...
And once those people had played the second class they left too...
The devs simply failed to deliver on every single level imaginable...
Not every MMO needs or can to be WoW, to expect as much is CHILDISH.
@@Baraborn nobody said anything or even compared zenith to wow... to assume something like that is CHILDISH
im sorry but all thouse games look like complete crap
its a kick starter scam
RIP Zenith