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Itachi is a very complex individual, some see him traitor, and some see him as a hero, and frankly, I see him as a boy who went through the worst. He shouldn't have had to have such a childhood he had, along with having to make the choices such as choosing his village, or his family.
“I’ve always lied to you and asked you to forgive me. Deliberately keeping you at a distance by my own hand. Because I didn’t want you to get caught up in any of this. But now I think that perhaps you could have changed father and mother and the rest of the Uchiha. If I had only come to you from the start looked straight into your eyes and told you the truth. With me, who failed telling you all this from above, it’s not going to penetrate and sink in. But I want to impart at least this much truth to you. You don’t ever have to forgive me. And no matter what you do from here on out know this I will love you always.”
The Uchiha massacre was a result of the 3rd's failure as a Hokage. He knew about the coup and could have personally confronted Fugaku. But he didn't. If it was Minato or Naruto, the massacre would've never happened.
Hiruzen said he wanted to talk with the Uchiha, but Danzo responded by saying time was running out. The story made it seem like the coup was going to happen a day or two after they learned about it. However, I don't deny that there was plenty of time to hash things out beforehand and not have things get so bad that they would plan a coup.
@@Scarftail Hiruzen cared about other elders and Danzo's opinion. That was the issue with him. Whereas, Minato or Naruto would've done what they thought was right. Even Tsunade kicked out the elders when they spoke against Naruto.
@@manu201022 i think any other hokage would have talked to the uchiha clan personally . like they are one of the strongest clan along side the senju . u would think that the village would want the military power if they just made one uchiha a hokage most of the problems would be gone in my opinion
@@zero_snow4511 Yes. Hiruzen should have atleast personally talked to Fugaku. But he cared for Danzo's and other elders opinion and chose to not interfere.
I love your comments, Hiruzen should have laid down the Hokage position to either Fugaku or Itachi is he was still shaky. The fact that Danzo manipulated him without Shisui's eyes is sickening. Alternatively, Shisui should not have committed suicide but team up with Itachi to takeout Danzo or enlist the help of then Madara(Obito) in exchange for a favour.
@@mikaelantonkurki my best answer would be Itachi felt the world where the Uchiha coupe happened, was worse than a world where the Uchiha clan didn't exist. His experience in the war as a child disillusioned him from clan politics because he felt those very clan politics would result in more war, so he felt his loyalty should belong to Konoha as a whole, who he felt would do the right thing by ninja society, whereas the Uchiha would've plunged it into endless war. Remember, the Sharingan was feared world wide, what would you think would happen when the other great nations find out the Uchiha clan took over the Land of Fire? It'd be the ninja war to end all ninja wars.
@@erhiueQWEF I agree. There's multiple choices he could've make. But honestly I think everyone's being too harsh on him for making the wrong decision in the end. Because any one of us could've made the same wrong decision as him. No more, no less. Whether we were a prodigy, a genius or just plain stupid. Either way, chances are that we could have made the same ultimatum decision that Itachi did. If we were in his shoes, which is why I pity him so much.
@@kingnamor7777 I agree that Itachi was in a "no-win" scenario, it shouldn't have happened to him. I'll still contend that Hiruzen's bag should've been a lot heavier than it was, I can only imagine the dire political straights Konoha must've been in to have Hiruzen come out of retirement. One story I would've liked to see is the societal impact of the Uchiha Massacre in Konoha, I could only imagine the newspaper headlines in Konoha. Ultimately tho, Hiruzen knew Danzo for decades at that point and to an extent he knew Danzo was up to no good, it was naive of Hiruzen to think Danzo would just disappear into the ether after publicly stripping him of his position (He seriously didn't think Danzo would have an underground org under his command) Perhaps if Kishimoto had planned these story beats earlier, and perhaps had invented Danzo earlier, so that he appeared in Part 1, some things would've gelled easier.
Itachi had a near flawless plan yet that plan was doomed to fail from the start due to a single fatal flaw, not trusting or even seeing Sasukes own individuality and agency
The way I see it, Itachi didn’t seem to care about what Sasuke wanted, but just wanted Sasuke to kill him because that’s what _he_ wanted. And nothing exemplifies this better than their hallway meeting. Regardless of if he knew how Sasuke was changing (by becoming less obsessed with revenge and actually having friends and happiness), the impact of their reunion is honestly heartbreaking. Sasuke feels as if he has to abandon his first and only ever friends because Itachi didn’t want Sasuke to not prioritize his vengeance. God forbid Sasuke not be trapped in his traumatized past forever! This guy definitely had a point when he said Itachi was selfish.
@@firefly5934 Exactly this, if you minus the hallway encounter between sasuke and itachi, sasuke was loosing incentive to act revenge on Itachi especially having those bonds with team 7 but itachi’s visit to the leaf village after all those years reignited the hate in sasuke’s heart from itachi after being provoked for his “weakness” and not having enough “hate” to the point where when sasuke was healed by tsunade his first thought on his mind was his “weakness” then the self comparison to “Naruto” which led to him going rogue, Itachi is the reason behind the sole thing he ought to prevent and he still couldn’t understand Sasuke’s resolve or even cared why Sasuke felt the way he did, the whole story is so sad tbh…
@@jmcghane Most of you guys hate Sasuke for how he acted and praise Itachi for all he did even though he literally traumatized a child multiple times and literally told Sasuke once to “kill his best friend” and then when Sasuke wants revenge you guys are like “Why doesn’t he just go after the elders?” And think Sasuke can just go in there, kill them, and the village won’t say anything Narutotards are the reason misanthropes exist and have short attention spans and a low and biased scope of morality
@@jaysmith3173 Actually I'm a Sasuke fan myself. Personally I find it ironic that everyone praise Itachi up and down but hates Sasuke when in fact the one who everyone praises is the same person who made Sasuke the person he is today (well at least one of them).
"He simply did what he had to the discrimination by the village and the object of their antagonism he shouldered all the blame himself. No one should ever question Itachi's decision and the sacrifices he made." Obito Uchiha
@@kanganaga1787 sure, besides his spin to make the uchiha look like poor little victims in order to nudge sasuke away from acting in accordance with itachi's wishes and toward hating the village. itachi didn't do what he did just because he was ordered. they never could have made him do it if he didn't want to. he did it because he knew it was the right thing to do for multiple reasons, one of them being that the clan was obsessed with their own name and plotting the coup
@@gottalovevarii1722 he isnt well written. he sounds like a fanfic. *omg thought like hokage at 7 and killed clan at 13 and anbu captain at 11 and solo chunin exam at 8* smh if he was in naruto’s chunin exam gaara would’ve killed him with ease. not mention his intentions were terrible since he expressed them terribly. make your tiny brother witness his clan dying, then making him an introvert and only want revenge, made him go rogue. OMG HE’S GOOD GUY? now your brother wants to kill the kage and has mental breakdowns. oh and he was in the akatsuki, a terrorist group, for some time.
@@crazybl1tz88 bro please understand his character a lil before commenting shit like this. Itachi became a pacifist after he saw the horrors of war. War was the last thing he wanted and he would do anything to maintain the peace within the villiage. He explores so many philosophy’s and life questions to call him a bad character is just kinda blasphemy to me.
@@gottalovevarii1722 not well written. just overrated. he’s supposed to be like the greatest dude in the world after we find out the truth but in reality that just makes him worse. if he stayed a villain that’d be way better.
i always felt bad for hinata..people pretend shes not likeable relatable or well written because she is in a story out of her element and feels forced into the minor character end of story love interest role with nothing else given to her while crushing from afar without admitting her feelings to him out of fear on the main boy who likes someone else ...she would be a great lead in a shojo series..too bad shes thrust into a shounen battle manga made for 11 year old boys which is super popular creating obvious haters by proxy...
@@razkable you're right and wrong. literally majority of the fandom is in love with her for the reason you stated-she's a character whose only purpose is to love the main guy.
@@itachisucks6693 He wasn't scared of Danzo, he was scared of the war that might broke out if he wouldn't do anything quickly. If Itachi was given a lot of time to even think, things would go differently & all it takes for a normal human to understand is to enlighten themselves up for more deeper understanding. You're hating Itachi blindly XD.
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Itachi loves Sasuke, but I feel like he loved the idea of his brother more. He never talked to Sasuke or his fam about the coup. “So long as Sasuke lives” to me was Itachi’s mistake
You’re right: he loved “the idea of a brother”, not his brother. He considered everything a win as long as Sasuke lived regardless of what Sasuke has to go through. As if that was not enough, he said “Why didn’t Sasuke return to the leaf?” I wanted to slap Itachi for that bulls**t. 🤨
The thing people fail to realize is there was never itachi the villain. He did some bad things but everything was ultimately for the village. If he was truly a villain and wanted he could have messed the leaf village up something fierce.
oh no hes a Villain, hes just blinded by his love por Konoha, but im pretty sure hes a villain, Anti villain because he had good deeds, in a twisted way
I’ve always gotten the feeling that Itachi was originally meant to be a villain, but Kishimoto changed his mind last minute and pulled a “good guy all along card”. There’s just so many elements of his character that don’t make any sense (him being friends with Kakashi yet the both of them treating each other like they were meeting for the first time, him “loving” Sasuke yet forcing his little brother to live through watching their parents get slaughtered to the point that he becomes a psychological vegetable their FIRST time seeing each other in years, him spying on the Akatsuki yet the Leaf Village never knowing anything about the Akatsuki, him hating the clan only for it to be revealed he was practically forced to slaughter the clan for the greater good when the clan itself were actually innocent victims of systematic racism and oppression). I could go on. I love Itachi, but when I take the time to think about it, he’s a walking contradiction and a pretty poorly written character. A little foreshadowing could’ve gone a LONG way, like how AoT was always foreshadowing Reiner and Bertholdt (specifically Reiner though; my boy deserves an Oscar for his performance).
I won't defend Kishimoto on everything (like this video, we're supposed to believe he made every character wank Itachi but it was ALL PART OF HIS PLAN so it's actually GOOD WRITING like wtf). But he definitely foreshadowed Itachi when he went to Konoha. Tons of his lines have double meanings or just make more sense from the real Itachi than the psycho.
As a kid I loved itachi but as a older guy now I look at him with a big side eye.. In a village where danzo & orochimaru thrived it was BS to me that itachi had to/made the choice he did... I also wanna say how more blame from perspective is given to kishimoto.. I feel just like the sakura situation kishi didn't write the uchiha good enough for the outcome..Another good analysis 💯 Btw i wanna mention I totally agreed with sasuke end of series choice.. I felt him & Naruto had two good ways at handling a situation...
Definitely not a hero, but probably quite close to the middle, as you said. Although there is never any absolutes if life or good fiction. So it being in the middle makes sense
In the end it was Sarutobis misjudgement and lack of initiative that caused so many issues. -Didn't kill Danzo( He tried to assassinate Hiruzen.) -Let Orochimaru go -Let Naruto live as an outcast and being hated instead of confronting the public. -Didnt talk personally to Fugaku and worked on a solution together to fix the Uchihas state. It shows how when the strongest nation with the most responsebolity get the wrong leader the whole world suffers.
Wow, it was so interesting to hear both perspectives on Itachi! I think I agree with both, he's a villain AND a hero, but he's more of a hero than a villain in my opinion.
It still intrigues me, the show doesn't really go into how bad Itachi's slaughtering of the Uciha clan was besides its effect on Sasuke. Honestly it seem more like the show frames it that what Itachi did was unfortunate but ultimately the right call, including the assassination of all non-combatants and most definitely a few children and probably even babies.
To have Honor is a good thing, to be blinded like it is not. Itachi was blinded by his love for the Leaf Village much in the same way as Sasuke was blinded by his hate for it, he chose to side against his own people only excluding his brother. Children and babies were not spared, he committed the True Sin, the destruction of the innocent and therefore his actions are indeed evil and as much as though he felt forced to do so he still did so as he selfishly valued Sasuke above all of the innocents within the Uchiha Clan. He is indeed a Villain and committed Evil, but he still holds some good, therefore he is an Anti-Villain.
Wait, isnt an Anti-villain someone who performs good deeds for villainous goals? I thought an anti-hero is someone who performs bad deeds for noble reasons
I would have chosen my family over everything else. That's why when I think of Itachi, I see the resolve needed to do what he did. That's why I love and respect him so much! The best part is that he is someone who owns his action and never tries to justify himself. He acted based on his reality and his values. As for the argument of being a child in the Narutoverse; To me as soon as you see the darkness of the world, you are no longer a child. This world operates on a completely different morality. Any shinobi who has already seen blood being drawn or has personally drawn blood is an adult just like Zabuza & Haku transitioned Team 7 into adulthood. Ideally it shouldnt be like that but it is what it is!!!
In the itachi’s story episodes, Itachi was described as prodigy. A child so ahead of his peers in all aspects almost. A child that has witnessed war not even aged 7 years and wondered why everyone was fighting, he was a pacifist ( contrary to belief, a pacifist isn’t someone that swears off violence all together, but someone that sees it as unjustifiable and opposes it). However, due to him witnessing so much hatred and violence, he eventually grew slightly colder, that and also the exploitation of the elders of his talents and skills. While this video describes Itachi as selfish and not caring about hurting or killing others, Itachi was put in a very stressful position of choosing to die with his clan and family, or stay loyal to the village. With this in mind, Itachi was only 13 years old when he committed the Uchiha clan slaughter with Obito. Although I believe things could have been discussed as seen when Itachi confronted his father after he found out about the coup, his father listened to him and asked him questions that he couldn’t answer at that time exactly. However, during the Uchiha clan slaughter, Itachi is again in front of his father, but this time, he showed his father the future that he envisions and is fighting for. Itachi is anything but selfish. He basically sacrificed his life, threw away everything he has ever loved and cared for. Put up with being portrayed as the villain, all to protect the village and Sasuke. While I do think that Itachi would have chosen the village if Sasuke had chosen to attack it, Itachi had a soft spot for both. The Itachi when he slaughtered his family and clan, wasn’t the same Itachi when he fought Sasuke and eventually died. He grew around some truly evil people and some a little bit, that matured him a lot. In some of the episodes in Itachi’s story, he is viewed with an unknown member of akatsuki (never in the roster during the airing of Shippuden). In that scene, there is violence and killing involved, and Itachi stood there disgusted and saddened by what he’s seeing. Itachi’s character is very complex and not as easily analysed. He has shown signs of true kindness as his father told him just before he died. He lived with the pain and burden of killing the Uchiha clan and his own family. He has done that to survive and also protect the village and Sasuke. He was taken advantage of (to some extent since he was intelligent). Both times he has died, his last words were all kind and apologetic. He knows what wrong he has done, he acknowledges what he lacked and what he messed up in. Regardless of all that, Itachi in my opinion, is the best written character in the series.
You touched on it during the video but there's something to be said about the burden of the eldest. Being the older sibling itachi was treated like an adult as soon as sasuke was born. Being the prodigy of his generation he also shouldered the exectations of his clan. That pressure to perform and to grow up rapidly forced him into terrible situations where he was manipulated for others' agenda. In the end, despite everything that was going on, Itachi stayed true to his ultinate purpose: big brother. As you said that was the one thing that he wouldn't stray from and I think is very overestimated.
All your videos are good, but this one is definitely one of your best. It was an extremely well thought out analysis and one that much of the fandom would not have taken the time to consider in its fullness.
I never understood how everyone was so pro itachi, I mean he is cool as a character but I was never able to get past him killing his people. I like that you brought this back into perspective addressing the narrative put forth by Kishimoto and the reality we all live in. This gave me a better understanding on the two sides of the issue. Thanks.
Itachi is a character I very much have a mixed opinion on, while I can sing the guys praises to the moon, as a Shinobi, as Soldier, and as an asset to the Leaf. As a person I can’t help but find for all the praise of intelligence he gets people over look his short comings, Itachi as a person despite how much he loved or said he loved Sasuke seemed to treat his little brother as more of a thing, an object rather then a person. He set Sasuke up on a path too narrow for him to walk. It was like he would do something and not think about it before hand in the way a person would react. Everything Itachi did just made shit worse for Sasuke the brother he loved. If Itachi just stayed the fuck away from Sasuke his plan would have gone better, Sasuke was at the time jealous of Naruto’s growth he was nowhere near as bad as he was after Itachi pounded in his weakness by making him relive the massacre for a second time. You could say he did it to motivate Sasuke, ok he did not need to go that hard. He set Sasuke up for his fall and when things did not go his way he was planning on using more force and manipulation. That is why when Naruto said “He is more of a Brother to me then you ever where to him.” I agreed one hundred percent wile Naruto tried to use force when Sasuke would not listen to him he always tried to talk to him first, no matter how effective it was or was not. Itachi is an amazing Ninja and a loving brother, but he was manipulative in his love he wanted things to go how he wanted it.
Wonderful. I have to agree on this every word. Itachi's love for Sasuke has more twists than a rinnegan eye. I feel bad for Sasuke though the path he took was influenced by the trauma induced by Itachi. Sasuke didn't deserve it.
Itachi was someone who was really detached. He understood just how horrible war was and was willing to do anything to avert it. But itachi did not understand people, at least not to the point why they were driven so much by their emotions. Sure what his clan was doing was wrong but they were driven to that point by people who fear them. I believe if the leaf truly wanted peace with the uchiha they could have done it By not moving them so far away and putting them under surveillance. In the shinobi world it's use or be used, and Ninjas have to put the village 1st before their own personal needs, but I can't acknowledge that. As humans were made to be selfish and want the best for us and the people we care about, That's why I believe if any regular person was in itachi's position they couldn't make that the same decision. Itachi was the perfect ninja who served others but never himself.
Something I found really fascinating about Itachi and his calculations was he was no exception to them. If he loses in the calculations then so be it as long as it still works with his utilitarian mindset
itachi made the sacrifices so that Sasuke wouldn’t have to and yet in spite of knowing that and hearing everything from other people Sasuke clearly learned nothing because he decided he was going to sacrifice himself to insure peace by becoming the sole enemy of the world
Its still very easy to see why Sasuke would feel this way. He was manipulated by Itachi, then Orochimaru, then Obito. And after going through it all he felt like he could trust no one anymore, so he then felt like he had to take on the burden for the rest of the Shinobi world. But luckily Naruto forcefully opened his eyes to the fact that there was still one more person in the world that he could truly trust
@@Jiggonomics it was also Naruto that Sasuke truly trusted in the end, after all of the manipulation. Thats why they fought at the Valley, because Sasuke trusted Naruto to try and stop him
Itachi- kills countless people in the name of peace and makes the whole world hate him Sasuke- plans to kill countless people for peace so he will be the only hated person I'd say Sasuke learned Itachi's lesson word for word
I don't know why people think afetr Itachi's death sasuke had to follow whet Itachi wanted. Itachi destroyed ang genocide his whole clan; Why would he do what Itachi want. Itachi wasn't right. Sasuke is his own man. He does what he estimed to be just. And it's clearlyy not what iachi did
@@donrog5035 If he’s his own man why is it that his entire sense of morality was shaped around doing the opposite of what his brother did. And that’s just the first half of the series. And then at the end of the series he decides he wants to be like his brother and be the hero by playing the villain making a similar sacrifice on a much grander scale which would’ve made him worse than his brother
“People live their entire lives by what they perceive as correct or true, but just what is correct or true? Merely vague concepts. Your reality may be nothing but an illusion.” In the modern world full of misinformation, Kishimoto was truly ahead of his time to write a character like Itachi. Even if Japan as a society was far ahead of the curve compared to the West when it came to the internet and social media, this statement alone was a warning to us all about living in information bubbles, and our willingness to ignore things for convenience.
Same here. When I was a kid, I could understand itachi. I became a teen, became a big fan of itachi, & understood. Now an adult, rewatching naruto, itachi's character dropped in my eyes. (1) Tortures sasuke for 24 hours showing his parents getting killed. (2) No problem with decisions he made (an extremist who would do anything). Problem comes when the narrative treated him like a hero..
His Father’s response to him in many ways validates the path he chose. Notice how Fuguku doesn’t say, “Son there is another way, stop and I promise will lead toward peace.” He submits to the idea that this scenario had always been “the Uchiha’s or the Village.” And he resigns himself to allow Itachi to take him in conceding that violence was the only way and he would rather let Itachi take his life then fight his own son for this mission.
I'd love to see a video on Hiruzen. Personally, I find him to be a bad Hokage despite being a good person and I think the Uchiha situation exposes that reality.
I feel like however smart itachi was he was peer pressured into doing what he *had* to do, i dont believe anyone but a strong uchiha could have slain the whole tribe even during a surprise attack
The situation, that Itachi was in resembles Japan's groupism way of life. The colletive's interests are the ones that matter ( in Naruto's case uchiha clan's or Leaf's ) The idividualism comes secound or even dismissed. Ones who stand out from croud are quickly to judged,feared and hated. Naruto, Gaara, Killer Bee and many other Jinchuriki's as well as Itachi and Sakumo are perfect examples for this. Even thou, groupism is not necessarily a bad thing, but blindly following it may cause tones of issues, discrimination, bullying and misery. It's quiet sad, that even the very individualistic and rebelious character as Naruto agrees with this ideology and way of life, unconsciously justifying the uchiha massacre by calling Itachi a hero.
I guess the same could be said of danzo, he did whatever was needed in order to protect the village, by spilling blood or manipulation, at the end of the day you can say danzo saved the leaf. He was the shadow hokage and there can’t be light without darkness
If not for Tsunade, Sasuke wouldn’t have woken up from that Coma. Traumatizing him with Tsukuyomi the first time was too much. Itachi’s a retconned character. His massacre intentions have always been vague.
Obito only got as far as he did because Danzo wouldn't let the Uchiha help protect the village resulting in the death of the fourth Hokage and still the Uchiha were the ones who were exterminated for the greater good leading to the death of The third Hokage as well as the fourth great ninja war.
Itachi should stay a villain, a tragic villain with good intentions but still villain. Just Follow Orders, Genociding Children, Assisting Terrorist (Akatsuki), The End Justifies the Means does not Excuse Him. Especailly when giving the Terrorist Group a huge advantage. Naruto world has screwed up senses of morality & ethics
@@free_palestine786 just never seen it from the angle of him being more of a scared child when he made his decisions, every analysis of him paints him as a morally correct person who makes the best decision in whatever situation
On itachi going thru with the uchiha massacre was him taking out his rage on the uchiha clan on the circumstances that led to shisuis death. Itachi was taking carr or sasuke as he promised his parents
Why doesn’t Fugaku ever get called out he along with Donzo put him in a terrible position. Fugaku is the worst dad in all of Naruto and nobody says shit about that.
@@THAGAMEKILLA I feel like the natural state of a person doesn't incline them to commit genocide so the two acts are not equivalent in this comparison. I don't tell everyone I meet that genocide is bad but no one would argue I was responsible if someone I knew tried to commit one. If I was encouraging someone to commit a genocidal act and they did on the other hand it's clear that i have some responsibility. Fugaku was a shitty dad but that's just not even in the same universe as Danzo, the village elders, or the Third who is for the record the worst hokage in every conceivable way.
the uchiha wouldn't have planned a coup if the leaf didn't isolate and discriminate them anyway. imagine being treated like shit in the village you *helped found.* i wouldn't say civil war was a good idea but konoha brought it upon themselves.
the series counteracted your points really well -----hiruzen tried everything in his power to stop Uchiha mascara but failed if they conspired and failed alot would have happened or if succeeded the village would have been divided with hiruzen probably assassinated then the only option itachi had was turn to danzo , he asked him to only spare his brother because he was his sibling if many were spared then nothing would have changed much with a more hatefull uchiha clan whose only goal would be to kill itachi and it would be really suspicious for itachi to ask someone to be spared who is not his family and so since he loved his brother and danzo agrees to spare his life (under a threat off course ) he masacraes his clan . his father must have been killed since he was the leader of the clan.he planted the tsukoyo to make sasuke hate him instead of him thinking itachi had a reason to kill the clan and made him believe that he just wanted test his power and spared his life so one day he would have become strong enough to face him and give him a challenge ,he wanted sasuke to be strong so that he could kill obito or madara at that point who he knew one day would annihilate the leaf and itachi wont be there to protect it , also because he was the last of the bloodline ... Ask what ever u want i will try to answer it with asmuch info i got from anime .
great video! Its very interesting how some people love Itachi and some dont. regardless, just like each technique, each character has their own flaws and weaknesses. Never realized it but youre right....he may be the only character with both the will of fire and the curse of hatred. I would say Sasuke but ehhhhhh
Itachi wasn’t a good person, but what he was was a child forced to make adult decisions and lacked the clarity (the kind that only comes with maturity) To seek out alternative options.
You know nothing! He also did everything for shishi uchia as well that was that vow he accepted when he took that eye! Protect the village and the uchiha name itachi-shisui uchiha
@@nearby222 Black Zetsu is worse and the reason the Uchiha suffered in the first place, Narutotards don’t ask the right questions and have short attention spans and a small scope in Morality Most of you guys hate Sasuke for how he acted and praise Itachi for all he did even though he literally traumatized a child multiple times and literally told Sasuke once to “kill his best friend” and then when Sasuke wants revenge you guys are like “Why doesn’t he just go after the elders?” And think Sasuke can just go in there, kill them, and the village won’t say anything Narutotards are the reason misanthropes exist and have short attention spans and a low and biased scope of morality
@@badassproductions4734 Black Zetsu is worse and the reason the Uchiha suffered in the first place, Narutotards don’t ask the right questions and have short attention spans and a small scope in Morality Most of you guys hate Sasuke for how he acted and praise Itachi for all he did even though he literally traumatized a child multiple times and literally told Sasuke once to “kill his best friend” and then when Sasuke wants revenge you guys are like “Why doesn’t he just go after the elders?” And think Sasuke can just go in there, kill them, and the village won’t say anything Narutotards are the reason misanthropes exist and have short attention spans and a low and biased scope of morality
And I feel like, if you want to bring peace in the world ( in the Shinobi World I mean), you have to be violent sometimes because even pacifist actions are not sufficient enough. Well that's what I think, maybe I'm wrong
what are your thoughts on itachi?
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Itachi is a good character
itachi is great
Itachi is a very complex individual, some see him traitor, and some see him as a hero, and frankly, I see him as a boy who went through the worst. He shouldn't have had to have such a childhood he had, along with having to make the choices such as choosing his village, or his family.
he's a bad brother
Sasuke was innocent until Itachi decided to protect him.
“I’ve always lied to you and asked you to forgive me. Deliberately keeping you at a distance by my own hand. Because I didn’t want you to get caught up in any of this. But now I think that perhaps you could have changed father and mother and the rest of the Uchiha. If I had only come to you from the start looked straight into your eyes and told you the truth. With me, who failed telling you all this from above, it’s not going to penetrate and sink in. But I want to impart at least this much truth to you. You don’t ever have to forgive me. And no matter what you do from here on out know this I will love you always.”
marcy???
@@SagesRain what up sage
@@SagesRain yo
The original onion cutting shinobi
@@SagesRain you should do some adventure time characters
If nothing else, can the Itachi Lovers and Itachi Haters come together to agree that Danzo is the worst?
Always
No he is not . Pain obito madara itachi are worse than danzo but since they have a sob backstory they get a pass
no. i love itachi and danzo.
plus he was the only one with any creativity for wind release.
@@thejourney3718 I cringe so hard and always at death's door when someone says
sHaDoW hOkAgE
He’s a good villain tho
The Uchiha massacre was a result of the 3rd's failure as a Hokage. He knew about the coup and could have personally confronted Fugaku. But he didn't. If it was Minato or Naruto, the massacre would've never happened.
Hiruzen said he wanted to talk with the Uchiha, but Danzo responded by saying time was running out. The story made it seem like the coup was going to happen a day or two after they learned about it. However, I don't deny that there was plenty of time to hash things out beforehand and not have things get so bad that they would plan a coup.
@@Scarftail Hiruzen cared about other elders and Danzo's opinion. That was the issue with him. Whereas, Minato or Naruto would've done what they thought was right. Even Tsunade kicked out the elders when they spoke against Naruto.
@@manu201022 i think any other hokage would have talked to the uchiha clan personally . like they are one of the strongest clan along side the senju . u would think that the village would want the military power if they just made one uchiha a hokage most of the problems would be gone in my opinion
@@zero_snow4511 Yes. Hiruzen should have atleast personally talked to Fugaku. But he cared for Danzo's and other elders opinion and chose to not interfere.
I love your comments, Hiruzen should have laid down the Hokage position to either Fugaku or Itachi is he was still shaky.
The fact that Danzo manipulated him without Shisui's eyes is sickening.
Alternatively, Shisui should not have committed suicide but team up with Itachi to takeout Danzo or enlist the help of then Madara(Obito) in exchange for a favour.
“No matter what darkness or contradictions lie within the village, I am itachi uchiha of the leaf”!
Loyalty in person
But why? What was there about the village that made him choose that way?
@@mikaelantonkurki my best answer would be Itachi felt the world where the Uchiha coupe happened, was worse than a world where the Uchiha clan didn't exist. His experience in the war as a child disillusioned him from clan politics because he felt those very clan politics would result in more war, so he felt his loyalty should belong to Konoha as a whole, who he felt would do the right thing by ninja society, whereas the Uchiha would've plunged it into endless war. Remember, the Sharingan was feared world wide, what would you think would happen when the other great nations find out the Uchiha clan took over the Land of Fire? It'd be the ninja war to end all ninja wars.
@@erhiueQWEF I agree. There's multiple choices he could've make. But honestly I think everyone's being too harsh on him for making the wrong decision in the end. Because any one of us could've made the same wrong decision as him. No more, no less. Whether we were a prodigy, a genius or just plain stupid. Either way, chances are that we could have made the same ultimatum decision that Itachi did. If we were in his shoes, which is why I pity him so much.
@@kingnamor7777 I agree that Itachi was in a "no-win" scenario, it shouldn't have happened to him. I'll still contend that Hiruzen's bag should've been a lot heavier than it was, I can only imagine the dire political straights Konoha must've been in to have Hiruzen come out of retirement. One story I would've liked to see is the societal impact of the Uchiha Massacre in Konoha, I could only imagine the newspaper headlines in Konoha. Ultimately tho, Hiruzen knew Danzo for decades at that point and to an extent he knew Danzo was up to no good, it was naive of Hiruzen to think Danzo would just disappear into the ether after publicly stripping him of his position (He seriously didn't think Danzo would have an underground org under his command) Perhaps if Kishimoto had planned these story beats earlier, and perhaps had invented Danzo earlier, so that he appeared in Part 1, some things would've gelled easier.
Itachi had a near flawless plan yet that plan was doomed to fail from the start due to a single fatal flaw, not trusting or even seeing Sasukes own individuality and agency
The way I see it, Itachi didn’t seem to care about what Sasuke wanted, but just wanted Sasuke to kill him because that’s what _he_ wanted. And nothing exemplifies this better than their hallway meeting. Regardless of if he knew how Sasuke was changing (by becoming less obsessed with revenge and actually having friends and happiness), the impact of their reunion is honestly heartbreaking. Sasuke feels as if he has to abandon his first and only ever friends because Itachi didn’t want Sasuke to not prioritize his vengeance. God forbid Sasuke not be trapped in his traumatized past forever! This guy definitely had a point when he said Itachi was selfish.
@@firefly5934 Exactly this, if you minus the hallway encounter between sasuke and itachi, sasuke was loosing incentive to act revenge on Itachi especially having those bonds with team 7 but itachi’s visit to the leaf village after all those years reignited the hate in sasuke’s heart from itachi after being provoked for his “weakness” and not having enough “hate” to the point where when sasuke was healed by tsunade his first thought on his mind was his “weakness” then the self comparison to “Naruto” which led to him going rogue, Itachi is the reason behind the sole thing he ought to prevent and he still couldn’t understand Sasuke’s resolve or even cared why Sasuke felt the way he did, the whole story is so sad tbh…
@@firefly5934itachi DEFINITELY didn't care about what sasuke wanted
Sasuke was too young to trust him when it all started he was just newborn
"Itachi was selfish." That's a bold ass claim. You got my attention.
XD
Lmao as an Itachi fan myself it’s hard to hear 😂
@@Bleeper852 He's morally gray he's not a villain nor a hero.
@@jmcghane Most of you guys hate Sasuke for how he acted and praise Itachi for all he did even though he literally traumatized a child multiple times and literally told Sasuke once to “kill his best friend” and then when Sasuke wants revenge you guys are like “Why doesn’t he just go after the elders?” And think Sasuke can just go in there, kill them, and the village won’t say anything
Narutotards are the reason misanthropes exist and have short attention spans and a low and biased scope of morality
@@jaysmith3173 Actually I'm a Sasuke fan myself. Personally I find it ironic that everyone praise Itachi up and down but hates Sasuke when in fact the one who everyone praises is the same person who made Sasuke the person he is today (well at least one of them).
"He simply did what he had to the discrimination by the village and the object of their antagonism he shouldered all the blame himself. No one should ever question Itachi's decision and the sacrifices he made." Obito Uchiha
And you're gonna believe whatever obito said ? 🤣 the same guy that lied about his identity for years . And obito was trying to manipulate sasuke
@@Coolguy-or8ex True but most of what he said was true though both Danzo and Itachi confirmed this.
@@Coolguy-or8ex What Obito said was confirmed to be true.
@@kanganaga1787 sure, besides his spin to make the uchiha look like poor little victims in order to nudge sasuke away from acting in accordance with itachi's wishes and toward hating the village. itachi didn't do what he did just because he was ordered. they never could have made him do it if he didn't want to. he did it because he knew it was the right thing to do for multiple reasons, one of them being that the clan was obsessed with their own name and plotting the coup
@@Coolguy-or8ex Exactly most words that were spoken by Obito shouldn't be taken seriously.
I was literally just watching a video on itachi when this notification popped up. Sages rain is true to his name. He is the sage this world needs
never been this early before. itachi is definitely in my top 3 for naruto characters! 🔥
Absolutely
Top 3 all time so well written
@@gottalovevarii1722 he isnt well written. he sounds like a fanfic. *omg thought like hokage at 7 and killed clan at 13 and anbu captain at 11 and solo chunin exam at 8* smh if he was in naruto’s chunin exam gaara would’ve killed him with ease. not mention his intentions were terrible since he expressed them terribly. make your tiny brother witness his clan dying, then making him an introvert and only want revenge, made him go rogue. OMG HE’S GOOD GUY? now your brother wants to kill the kage and has mental breakdowns. oh and he was in the akatsuki, a terrorist group, for some time.
@@crazybl1tz88 bro please understand his character a lil before commenting shit like this. Itachi became a pacifist after he saw the horrors of war. War was the last thing he wanted and he would do anything to maintain the peace within the villiage. He explores so many philosophy’s and life questions to call him a bad character is just kinda blasphemy to me.
@@crazybl1tz88 also strenght doesn’t matter much and he would send intel to the leaf villiage on the akatsuki
Itachi Uchiha is a gift to the anime world, which would be very difficult to recreate. Getting a character to Itachi's level surely a difficult task.
One of the best written characters
Guts
@@gottalovevarii1722 not well written. just overrated. he’s supposed to be like the greatest dude in the world after we find out the truth but in reality that just makes him worse. if he stayed a villain that’d be way better.
Ya sorry itachi is cool and interesting but he don’t deserve all the hype and clout he gets. He was only really cool in part 1 naruto anyway.
@@Orbis618 i 100% agree
The character development in this anime is so good, you could probably take any character and make a short anime for yourself
i always felt bad for hinata..people pretend shes not likeable relatable or well written because she is in a story out of her element and feels forced into the minor character end of story love interest role with nothing else given to her while crushing from afar without admitting her feelings to him out of fear on the main boy who likes someone else ...she would be a great lead in a shojo series..too bad shes thrust into a shounen battle manga made for 11 year old boys which is super popular creating obvious haters by proxy...
@@razkable you're right and wrong. literally majority of the fandom is in love with her for the reason you stated-she's a character whose only purpose is to love the main guy.
At least Hinata got a story and some kind of recognition, look at the other ninja from their year.
Back to Naruto eh? Well, I have to say Itachi is my favorite character of them all. Every time I here Crispin Freeman speak the last line, I cry.
same!
He got scared of danzo and people still love him lol
Even Itachi can be scared of something. Aren't we all?
@@itachisucks6693 He wasn't scared of Danzo, he was scared of the war that might broke out if he wouldn't do anything quickly. If Itachi was given a lot of time to even think, things would go differently & all it takes for a normal human to understand is to enlighten themselves up for more deeper understanding. You're hating Itachi blindly XD.
“He accepted disgrace in place of honor, and hatred in place of love. And yet, Itachi still died with a smile on his face”
- Obito Uchiha
Can I do it again ❤
Itachi as a character is someone I respect and someone I do not envy
you respect someone that slaughtered their own family because they were scared if an old dude
“I see the morrows and see them clearly sir. Even when all reason is lost and all truth has become lie, you will stand firm for loyalty is both your saving and your curse.”
-Blind Man Cassidy: RDR2
Super deep and philosophical it sometimes even can make me emotional but it puts different logic and perspectives in my head about the world and other things. Listening to these videos for 20 mins is so much better and educating about life than watching some guy play Warzone and I’m all for it.
Absolutely
Itachi Uchiha, the pure child who was broken by this accursed world
Itachi loves Sasuke, but I feel like he loved the idea of his brother more. He never talked to Sasuke or his fam about the coup. “So long as Sasuke lives” to me was Itachi’s mistake
You totally read that off of a website.
L
@@blackjesus2916 And how is Itachi supposed to talk to an 8 year old about a coup their parents were planning??
@@GUURL101 why tf did you @ me? I didn’t write that.
You’re right: he loved “the idea of a brother”, not his brother. He considered everything a win as long as Sasuke lived regardless of what Sasuke has to go through. As if that was not enough, he said “Why didn’t Sasuke return to the leaf?” I wanted to slap Itachi for that bulls**t. 🤨
@@blackjesus2916 lol sorry
The thing people fail to realize is there was never itachi the villain. He did some bad things but everything was ultimately for the village. If he was truly a villain and wanted he could have messed the leaf village up something fierce.
oh no hes a Villain, hes just blinded by his love por Konoha, but im pretty sure hes a villain, Anti villain because he had good deeds, in a twisted way
I’ve always gotten the feeling that Itachi was originally meant to be a villain, but Kishimoto changed his mind last minute and pulled a “good guy all along card”. There’s just so many elements of his character that don’t make any sense (him being friends with Kakashi yet the both of them treating each other like they were meeting for the first time, him “loving” Sasuke yet forcing his little brother to live through watching their parents get slaughtered to the point that he becomes a psychological vegetable their FIRST time seeing each other in years, him spying on the Akatsuki yet the Leaf Village never knowing anything about the Akatsuki, him hating the clan only for it to be revealed he was practically forced to slaughter the clan for the greater good when the clan itself were actually innocent victims of systematic racism and oppression). I could go on. I love Itachi, but when I take the time to think about it, he’s a walking contradiction and a pretty poorly written character.
A little foreshadowing could’ve gone a LONG way, like how AoT was always foreshadowing Reiner and Bertholdt (specifically Reiner though; my boy deserves an Oscar for his performance).
This
i think u dont really know him tbh
Read the light novels
I won't defend Kishimoto on everything (like this video, we're supposed to believe he made every character wank Itachi but it was ALL PART OF HIS PLAN so it's actually GOOD WRITING like wtf). But he definitely foreshadowed Itachi when he went to Konoha. Tons of his lines have double meanings or just make more sense from the real Itachi than the psycho.
As a kid I loved itachi but as a older guy now I look at him with a big side eye.. In a village where danzo & orochimaru thrived it was BS to me that itachi had to/made the choice he did... I also wanna say how more blame from perspective is given to kishimoto.. I feel just like the sakura situation kishi didn't write the uchiha good enough for the outcome..Another good analysis 💯
Btw i wanna mention I totally agreed with sasuke end of series choice.. I felt him & Naruto had two good ways at handling a situation...
Been waiting for another about itachi uchiha, great video. Itachi uchiha truly is a complex character.
Just got back into naruto so I’m super happy that you posted this
Definitely not a hero, but probably quite close to the middle, as you said.
Although there is never any absolutes if life or good fiction. So it being in the middle makes sense
@CamTheKitty Naruto fans only take absolutes
In the end it was Sarutobis misjudgement and lack of initiative that caused so many issues.
-Didn't kill Danzo( He tried to assassinate Hiruzen.)
-Let Orochimaru go
-Let Naruto live as an outcast and being hated instead of confronting the public.
-Didnt talk personally to Fugaku and worked on a solution together to fix the Uchihas state.
It shows how when the strongest nation with the most responsebolity get the wrong leader the whole world suffers.
Wow, it was so interesting to hear both perspectives on Itachi! I think I agree with both, he's a villain AND a hero, but he's more of a hero than a villain in my opinion.
It still intrigues me, the show doesn't really go into how bad Itachi's slaughtering of the Uciha clan was besides its effect on Sasuke. Honestly it seem more like the show frames it that what Itachi did was unfortunate but ultimately the right call, including the assassination of all non-combatants and most definitely a few children and probably even babies.
If anyone read Itachi’s Story Midnight, the way Itachi killed Izumi got me to tears
To have Honor is a good thing, to be blinded like it is not.
Itachi was blinded by his love for the Leaf Village much in the same way as Sasuke was blinded by his hate for it, he chose to side against his own people only excluding his brother.
Children and babies were not spared, he committed the True Sin, the destruction of the innocent and therefore his actions are indeed evil and as much as though he felt forced to do so he still did so as he selfishly valued Sasuke above all of the innocents within the Uchiha Clan.
He is indeed a Villain and committed Evil, but he still holds some good, therefore he is an Anti-Villain.
Wait, isnt an Anti-villain someone who performs good deeds for villainous goals? I thought an anti-hero is someone who performs bad deeds for noble reasons
@@supersani21Amti Villain is also someone Who has good intentions and goals buuuut... well...
I would have chosen my family over everything else. That's why when I think of Itachi, I see the resolve needed to do what he did. That's why I love and respect him so much! The best part is that he is someone who owns his action and never tries to justify himself. He acted based on his reality and his values.
As for the argument of being a child in the Narutoverse; To me as soon as you see the darkness of the world, you are no longer a child. This world operates on a completely different morality. Any shinobi who has already seen blood being drawn or has personally drawn blood is an adult just like Zabuza & Haku transitioned Team 7 into adulthood. Ideally it shouldnt be like that but it is what it is!!!
@Danny That a fictional world where an 8 year is said to have the intelligence of a country leader - I think them narutoverse kid are quite different
Morality is twisted in the world of naruto
In the itachi’s story episodes, Itachi was described as prodigy. A child so ahead of his peers in all aspects almost. A child that has witnessed war not even aged 7 years and wondered why everyone was fighting, he was a pacifist ( contrary to belief, a pacifist isn’t someone that swears off violence all together, but someone that sees it as unjustifiable and opposes it). However, due to him witnessing so much hatred and violence, he eventually grew slightly colder, that and also the exploitation of the elders of his talents and skills.
While this video describes Itachi as selfish and not caring about hurting or killing others, Itachi was put in a very stressful position of choosing to die with his clan and family, or stay loyal to the village. With this in mind, Itachi was only 13 years old when he committed the Uchiha clan slaughter with Obito. Although I believe things could have been discussed as seen when Itachi confronted his father after he found out about the coup, his father listened to him and asked him questions that he couldn’t answer at that time exactly. However, during the Uchiha clan slaughter, Itachi is again in front of his father, but this time, he showed his father the future that he envisions and is fighting for.
Itachi is anything but selfish. He basically sacrificed his life, threw away everything he has ever loved and cared for. Put up with being portrayed as the villain, all to protect the village and Sasuke. While I do think that Itachi would have chosen the village if Sasuke had chosen to attack it, Itachi had a soft spot for both.
The Itachi when he slaughtered his family and clan, wasn’t the same Itachi when he fought Sasuke and eventually died. He grew around some truly evil people and some a little bit, that matured him a lot. In some of the episodes in Itachi’s story, he is viewed with an unknown member of akatsuki (never in the roster during the airing of Shippuden). In that scene, there is violence and killing involved, and Itachi stood there disgusted and saddened by what he’s seeing.
Itachi’s character is very complex and not as easily analysed. He has shown signs of true kindness as his father told him just before he died. He lived with the pain and burden of killing the Uchiha clan and his own family. He has done that to survive and also protect the village and Sasuke. He was taken advantage of (to some extent since he was intelligent).
Both times he has died, his last words were all kind and apologetic. He knows what wrong he has done, he acknowledges what he lacked and what he messed up in. Regardless of all that, Itachi in my opinion, is the best written character in the series.
It’s always time to revisit Itachi uchiha. Cmon Sage
You touched on it during the video but there's something to be said about the burden of the eldest. Being the older sibling itachi was treated like an adult as soon as sasuke was born. Being the prodigy of his generation he also shouldered the exectations of his clan. That pressure to perform and to grow up rapidly forced him into terrible situations where he was manipulated for others' agenda. In the end, despite everything that was going on, Itachi stayed true to his ultinate purpose: big brother. As you said that was the one thing that he wouldn't stray from and I think is very overestimated.
Itachi did not lose his life, life lost Itachi
All your videos are good, but this one is definitely one of your best. It was an extremely well thought out analysis and one that much of the fandom would not have taken the time to consider in its fullness.
Sages rain your naruto based videos for some reason are always better than the rest. Keep it up u are awesome
another beautiful video that managed to make me cry
I never understood how everyone was so pro itachi, I mean he is cool as a character but I was never able to get past him killing his people. I like that you brought this back into perspective addressing the narrative put forth by Kishimoto and the reality we all live in. This gave me a better understanding on the two sides of the issue. Thanks.
Itachi is a character I very much have a mixed opinion on, while I can sing the guys praises to the moon, as a Shinobi, as Soldier, and as an asset to the Leaf. As a person I can’t help but find for all the praise of intelligence he gets people over look his short comings, Itachi as a person despite how much he loved or said he loved Sasuke seemed to treat his little brother as more of a thing, an object rather then a person. He set Sasuke up on a path too narrow for him to walk. It was like he would do something and not think about it before hand in the way a person would react. Everything Itachi did just made shit worse for Sasuke the brother he loved. If Itachi just stayed the fuck away from Sasuke his plan would have gone better, Sasuke was at the time jealous of Naruto’s growth he was nowhere near as bad as he was after Itachi pounded in his weakness by making him relive the massacre for a second time. You could say he did it to motivate Sasuke, ok he did not need to go that hard. He set Sasuke up for his fall and when things did not go his way he was planning on using more force and manipulation. That is why when Naruto said “He is more of a Brother to me then you ever where to him.” I agreed one hundred percent wile Naruto tried to use force when Sasuke would not listen to him he always tried to talk to him first, no matter how effective it was or was not. Itachi is an amazing Ninja and a loving brother, but he was manipulative in his love he wanted things to go how he wanted it.
finally, someone who acknowledges this. completely agree w everything you said.
Wonderful. I have to agree on this every word. Itachi's love for Sasuke has more twists than a rinnegan eye. I feel bad for Sasuke though the path he took was influenced by the trauma induced by Itachi. Sasuke didn't deserve it.
Your first Itachi video is my favorite video from you, looking forward to watching this
Best itachi video I ever seen
Itachi was someone who was really detached. He understood just how horrible war was and was willing to do anything to avert it. But itachi did not understand people, at least not to the point why they were driven so much by their emotions. Sure what his clan was doing was wrong but they were driven to that point by people who fear them. I believe if the leaf truly wanted peace with the uchiha they could have done it By not moving them so far away and putting them under surveillance.
In the shinobi world it's use or be used, and Ninjas have to put the village 1st before their own personal needs, but I can't acknowledge that. As humans were made to be selfish and want the best for us and the people we care about, That's why I believe if any regular person was in itachi's position they couldn't make that the same decision. Itachi was the perfect ninja who served others but never himself.
Something I found really fascinating about Itachi and his calculations was he was no exception to them. If he loses in the calculations then so be it as long as it still works with his utilitarian mindset
itachi made the sacrifices so that Sasuke wouldn’t have to and yet in spite of knowing that and hearing everything from other people
Sasuke clearly learned nothing because he decided he was going to sacrifice himself to insure peace by becoming the sole enemy of the world
Its still very easy to see why Sasuke would feel this way. He was manipulated by Itachi, then Orochimaru, then Obito. And after going through it all he felt like he could trust no one anymore, so he then felt like he had to take on the burden for the rest of the Shinobi world. But luckily Naruto forcefully opened his eyes to the fact that there was still one more person in the world that he could truly trust
@@Jiggonomics it was also Naruto that Sasuke truly trusted in the end, after all of the manipulation. Thats why they fought at the Valley, because Sasuke trusted Naruto to try and stop him
Itachi- kills countless people in the name of peace and makes the whole world hate him
Sasuke- plans to kill countless people for peace so he will be the only hated person
I'd say Sasuke learned Itachi's lesson word for word
I don't know why people think afetr Itachi's death sasuke had to follow whet Itachi wanted. Itachi destroyed ang genocide his whole clan; Why would he do what Itachi want. Itachi wasn't right. Sasuke is his own man. He does what he estimed to be just. And it's clearlyy not what iachi did
@@donrog5035 If he’s his own man why is it that his entire sense of morality was shaped around doing the opposite of what his brother did. And that’s just the first half of the series. And then at the end of the series he decides he wants to be like his brother and be the hero by playing the villain making a similar sacrifice on a much grander scale which would’ve made him worse than his brother
Thats the difference between Naruto and reality the cartoons help me make make very very very reel life heavy decisions
“You truly are a kind child.”
“People live their entire lives by what they perceive as correct or true, but just what is correct or true? Merely vague concepts. Your reality may be nothing but an illusion.”
In the modern world full of misinformation, Kishimoto was truly ahead of his time to write a character like Itachi. Even if Japan as a society was far ahead of the curve compared to the West when it came to the internet and social media, this statement alone was a warning to us all about living in information bubbles, and our willingness to ignore things for convenience.
Unbelieveably GREAT! Video Sage's Rain VRO! 🌧️🌕🩸
The older I get the more I dislike Itachi. His actions are unnecessary and beyond vile. Which sucks because I've always been an Itachi fan.
Same here. When I was a kid, I could understand itachi. I became a teen, became a big fan of itachi, & understood. Now an adult, rewatching naruto, itachi's character dropped in my eyes.
(1) Tortures sasuke for 24 hours showing his parents getting killed.
(2) No problem with decisions he made (an extremist who would do anything). Problem comes when the narrative treated him like a hero..
We grew up on this sheeeeet
His Father’s response to him in many ways validates the path he chose. Notice how Fuguku doesn’t say, “Son there is another way, stop and I promise will lead toward peace.” He submits to the idea that this scenario had always been “the Uchiha’s or the Village.” And he resigns himself to allow Itachi to take him in conceding that violence was the only way and he would rather let Itachi take his life then fight his own son for this mission.
I'd love to see a video on Hiruzen. Personally, I find him to be a bad Hokage despite being a good person and I think the Uchiha situation exposes that reality.
I feel like however smart itachi was he was peer pressured into doing what he *had* to do, i dont believe anyone but a strong uchiha could have slain the whole tribe even during a surprise attack
You should definitely make a video on Guts from Berserk, the author for that manga died in may.
bro i watched more then 100 anime and itachi is still my fav
Thank you Sage's Rain - your disciple
itachi is my fav character in naruto hes so complex and is such a tragic character
You should get more views it is so well done
As death comes to embrace you, you will realize what you are. -Itachi Uchiha
3rd hokage might seem innocent but he too like danzo wanted itachi to kill his clan, he is like danzo too
Itachi is Selfish? It's ALL BACKWARDS...he sacrifice all he had for the well being of the Clan 🤡
lived his entire life with hatred he didnt deserve still died with a smile .
I never understood why people liked Itachi until I watched this video. Thank you.
The situation, that Itachi was in resembles Japan's groupism way of life. The colletive's interests are the ones that matter ( in Naruto's case uchiha clan's or Leaf's ) The idividualism comes secound or even dismissed. Ones who stand out from croud are quickly to judged,feared and hated. Naruto, Gaara, Killer Bee and many other Jinchuriki's as well as Itachi and Sakumo are perfect examples for this. Even thou, groupism is not necessarily a bad thing, but blindly following it may cause tones of issues, discrimination, bullying and misery. It's quiet sad, that even the very individualistic and rebelious character as Naruto agrees with this ideology and way of life, unconsciously justifying the uchiha massacre by calling Itachi a hero.
I'd love to see a comparison of Itachi Uchiha and Zeke Yeager
all he brought sasuke was pain and new eyes
I guess the same could be said of danzo, he did whatever was needed in order to protect the village, by spilling blood or manipulation, at the end of the day you can say danzo saved the leaf. He was the shadow hokage and there can’t be light without darkness
Great video and explanation of itachi
Let's also never forget that there is a Dark and Light version of the Will of Fire
If not for Tsunade, Sasuke wouldn’t have woken up from that Coma. Traumatizing him with Tsukuyomi the first time was too much. Itachi’s a retconned character. His massacre intentions have always been vague.
Obito only got as far as he did because Danzo wouldn't let the Uchiha help protect the village resulting in the death of the fourth Hokage and still the Uchiha were the ones who were exterminated for the greater good leading to the death of The third Hokage as well as the fourth great ninja war.
I related so much to itachi I cried about it
thank god theres ppl out there that see itachi for who he is and how his moves werent that smart lmao
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Itachi should stay a villain, a tragic villain with good intentions but still villain.
Just Follow Orders, Genociding Children, Assisting Terrorist (Akatsuki), The End Justifies the Means does not Excuse Him. Especailly when giving the Terrorist Group a huge advantage.
Naruto world has screwed up senses of morality & ethics
The fans are even worse
actually really interesting, ive surprisingly never seen anybody try to argue that itachi WASNT as morally correct as the series shows him
@@free_palestine786 just never seen it from the angle of him being more of a scared child when he made his decisions, every analysis of him paints him as a morally correct person who makes the best decision in whatever situation
id have to rewatch the whole video to have a full discussion though.
Dont forget that kurinai tried to beat itachi using genjustu
Better question. Why are the leaf leaders making kids kill their familys
Beautiful video.
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On itachi going thru with the uchiha massacre was him taking out his rage on the uchiha clan on the circumstances that led to shisuis death.
Itachi was taking carr or sasuke as he promised his parents
How did the senju dry out exactly never made sense to me
I think it was attrition but it never gets stated outright what the cause was.
We as black people are the Uchiha clan
I actually never noticed that Danzou purposely attacked Itachi's surroundings to drive him into a corner.
Love your videos!!
"Did not consider anyone but his brother and his village."
Is there any genjutsu in where you make a look at Vegeta
Sage Rain can you do a video on my hero academia?
good vid loved it
Why doesn’t Fugaku ever get called out he along with Donzo put him in a terrible position. Fugaku is the worst dad in all of Naruto and nobody says shit about that.
Probably because Fugaku never pushed his kid towards commiting an act of genocide. Just a thought.
@@spellbound1875 he never strayed him away from it either
@@THAGAMEKILLA I feel like the natural state of a person doesn't incline them to commit genocide so the two acts are not equivalent in this comparison.
I don't tell everyone I meet that genocide is bad but no one would argue I was responsible if someone I knew tried to commit one. If I was encouraging someone to commit a genocidal act and they did on the other hand it's clear that i have some responsibility.
Fugaku was a shitty dad but that's just not even in the same universe as Danzo, the village elders, or the Third who is for the record the worst hokage in every conceivable way.
itachi was never a villan ...
I’m getting my popcorn for this one……
Eren Yeager > Itachi Uchiha
Agreed 😍
Don't compare eren with Itachi. Eren Yeager is greater than Itachi. Itachi is dumpass and psychopath.
@@gufu6610 right
@@Vergil1233x thank you. What is the picture in your Gmail logo. Really looks terrifying.
@@gufu6610 big chill from ben ten Alien force
Nah, he's a bad character. The leaf village really aint shit when you think about it, the Uchiha's were right to set a coup and create civil war
You're the kind of man who wants to see the world and all life burn.
You can only push ppl so far. Thou. There couldve been a better solution maybe
@@Hawkenwhacker “The Child Who is Not Embraced by the Village Will Burn it Down to Feel its Warmth “
the uchiha wouldn't have planned a coup if the leaf didn't isolate and discriminate them anyway. imagine being treated like shit in the village you *helped found.* i wouldn't say civil war was a good idea but konoha brought it upon themselves.
the series counteracted your points really well -----hiruzen tried everything in his power to stop Uchiha mascara but failed if they conspired and failed alot would have happened or if succeeded the village would have been divided with hiruzen probably assassinated then the only option itachi had was turn to danzo , he asked him to only spare his brother because he was his sibling if many were spared then nothing would have changed much with a more hatefull uchiha clan whose only goal would be to kill itachi and it would be really suspicious for itachi to ask someone to be spared who is not his family and so since he loved his brother and danzo agrees to spare his life (under a threat off course ) he masacraes his clan . his father must have been killed since he was the leader of the clan.he planted the tsukoyo to make sasuke hate him instead of him thinking itachi had a reason to kill the clan and made him believe that he just wanted test his power and spared his life so one day he would have become strong enough to face him and give him a challenge ,he wanted sasuke to be strong so that he could kill obito or madara at that point who he knew one day would annihilate the leaf and itachi wont be there to protect it , also because he was the last of the bloodline ...
Ask what ever u want i will try to answer it with asmuch info i got from anime .
great video! Its very interesting how some people love Itachi and some dont. regardless, just like each technique, each character has their own flaws and weaknesses. Never realized it but youre right....he may be the only character with both the will of fire and the curse of hatred. I would say Sasuke but ehhhhhh
Itachi wasn’t a good person, but what he was was a child forced to make adult decisions and lacked the clarity (the kind that only comes with maturity) To seek out alternative options.
How wise words of those are
Yea hes a awesome character but it doesnt absolve him from his crimes
Both ways uchiha clan was going to get terminated
You know nothing! He also did everything for shishi uchia as well that was that vow he accepted when he took that eye! Protect the village and the uchiha name itachi-shisui uchiha
@@Clapnn I think even if Itachi hadnt gained Shishui's eye he would have withheld his end of the bargain from which Shisui asked him to protect
“The child who sacrifice himself to solve adult problems.”
Forreal lol
Cheesy line “world problems” sounds better
@@Luceium01 nah the 3rd could've killed Donzo but was too pussy.
@@nearby222 Black Zetsu is worse and the reason the Uchiha suffered in the first place, Narutotards don’t ask the right questions and have short attention spans and a small scope in Morality
Most of you guys hate Sasuke for how he acted and praise Itachi for all he did even though he literally traumatized a child multiple times and literally told Sasuke once to “kill his best friend” and then when Sasuke wants revenge you guys are like “Why doesn’t he just go after the elders?” And think Sasuke can just go in there, kill them, and the village won’t say anything
Narutotards are the reason misanthropes exist and have short attention spans and a low and biased scope of morality
@@jaysmith3173 Black zetsu is evil but that's by design danzo was evil for no God given reason
Itachi was also one of the first persons to treat naruto like a human being. If you read the midnight novel at least
itachi was just ahead of the curve
Don't let this distract you from the fact that itachi got scared of jiraya and ran away like a fool.
@@itachisucks6693 you kiddin? right....?
@@itachisucks6693 you down bad. Jiraya can't even beat orochimaru
@@badassproductions4734 Black Zetsu is worse and the reason the Uchiha suffered in the first place, Narutotards don’t ask the right questions and have short attention spans and a small scope in Morality
Most of you guys hate Sasuke for how he acted and praise Itachi for all he did even though he literally traumatized a child multiple times and literally told Sasuke once to “kill his best friend” and then when Sasuke wants revenge you guys are like “Why doesn’t he just go after the elders?” And think Sasuke can just go in there, kill them, and the village won’t say anything
Narutotards are the reason misanthropes exist and have short attention spans and a low and biased scope of morality
You can color it however you want but Konoha treated Itachi like a Napkin, used and then disposed of.
@Charles Chiemeka Ekeogu All thanks to the Elders and Black Zetsu
Shinobi's life
Itachi was not the only one who was used and disposed of. Many shinobi were
@@michaelballack3051 Yup, Shinobi are tools. Kishimoto even went such extreme route of making inhumane tool as the main villain; Black Zetsu.
Shinobis are nothing but a tool. They will all be used and disposed of by the Elders. They are nothing but pieces in the Elder’s game of Chess
Talking about peace, whilst spilling blood, it's something that only humans can do - Madara Uchia
So basically.... Madara was right
And I feel like, if you want to bring peace in the world ( in the Shinobi World I mean), you have to be violent sometimes because even pacifist actions are not sufficient enough. Well that's what I think, maybe I'm wrong
@Alex Wainaina First of all, let me congratulate you for writing a very good comment my friend👏🏼. I definitely agree with you😉
Madara was always right ideologically speaking. His only mistake is that he isolated himself
@Alex Wainaina And most other villains actually.
If you think about it, the curse of hatred was actually a curse of isolation
True peace can only exist when 33+77=100